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Mark talks with political expert Ed Rollins · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Mark Simon Show on seventen w R. Well, let's talk
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  Speaker 1: to the Dean himself, Ed Rollins. Nobody's run more campaigns,
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  Speaker 1: or more successful campaigns, or worked with more presidents and politicians,
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  Speaker 1: and it's great to him with us. Ed Rollins, how
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  Speaker 1: you doing.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, How are you. Today's a big day for Republicans,
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  Speaker 2: the big Texas Texas Tennant race primary. The President just
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  Speaker 2: endorsed a week ago, but probably will influence the race greatly.
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  Speaker 2: But those consequences we should talk about.
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  Speaker 1: And what do you think will happen today.
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  Speaker 2: I think that Taxton will probably win it. These attorney
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  Speaker 2: general law He came in second in the primary before
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  Speaker 2: to John Cornyn's a fourth term former leader. Republicans very
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  Speaker 2: popular in Washington, but I think the President's endorsement probably
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  Speaker 2: makes the difference there. The consequences is if Paxton wins,
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  Speaker 2: he's got a lot more controversy in his background. His
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  Speaker 2: most expensive primary history, over one hundred and fifty five
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  Speaker 2: million dollars has already been spent in his race in
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  Speaker 2: the primary, probably another three hundred million and four hundred
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  Speaker 2: million dollars or we spent by the time this thing
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  Speaker 2: is finished, maybe even more I think the critical thing
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  Speaker 2: here is the White House political team had better start
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  Speaker 2: counting votes because Corner is a very popular guy. He
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  Speaker 2: was a deputy theater. And you now have a couple
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  Speaker 2: of these senators who've President's gone in and defeated, and
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  Speaker 2: obviously they still get to vote till January third next year.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so you know, the margins are close. And
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  Speaker 2: obviously the President's got a lot of he wants done,
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  Speaker 2: including his billion dollar ballroom. So my sense is this
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  Speaker 2: one's going to have consequences either way.
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  Speaker 1: So in that recent round of endorsements, the president was
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven and oh did that surprise you that he
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  Speaker 1: was so good at that.
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  Speaker 2: He's good at picking Republicans uh in the primaries, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: and particularly in places where independence don't get to vote,
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  Speaker 2: which is like the last last one or what was
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  Speaker 2: the publican only. But there's but there's consequences. I think
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  Speaker 2: to a certain extent that the combination of what's going
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  Speaker 2: on in the Middle East and what's going on in
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  Speaker 2: the sense of domestic politics. Uh, this slush run is
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  Speaker 2: advocating almost one point eight billion dollars slush run and
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  Speaker 2: the billion dollars for the for the ballroom that no one,
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  Speaker 2: nobody wants. Nobody anywhere outside of his inner camp wants
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  Speaker 2: either one of those things. So I think to a
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  Speaker 2: certain extent, they're gonna pay a price for them, and
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  Speaker 2: they may not get the resources for them the Senate.
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  Speaker 2: The president wants to send a Senate a message sending
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  Speaker 2: can easily send a message back, and that's not vote
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  Speaker 2: for the president. Rogers.
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  Speaker 1: So but wait, wait a minute, I want the ballroom.
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  Speaker 1: Might like the ballroom.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's good. You can take some of your take
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  Speaker 2: some of your bonus. You're rich enough to have to
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  Speaker 2: make a couple million dollar contribution to a billion dollar Uh.
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  Speaker 2: But it's certainly not it's certainly not something that's the
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  Speaker 2: people see is necessary today and a very hard chronic.
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  Speaker 1: But you spent a lot of time in the White House.
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  Speaker 1: The idea that the big large presidential gallows are held
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  Speaker 1: outside in the lawn and a tent that's kind of cheese.
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  Speaker 2: Well, well if they're not. You know, the bottom line
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  Speaker 2: is this very few that are held outside, and that's
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  Speaker 2: a decision, you know, it is what it is. It's
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  Speaker 2: there's other other things that you wanted to have. There's
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  Speaker 2: a tension building which is a couple blocks away as
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  Speaker 2: every bit as large as the new ballroom. And I
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  Speaker 2: think the reality is, you know, spending a billion dollars
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  Speaker 2: plus on a ballroom that the president promised he was
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  Speaker 2: going to pay for himself and is not. How am
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  Speaker 2: I going to do that? Is causing people who out
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  Speaker 2: there struggling to make against meet. It's kind to be big.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to a big issue in every every campaign,
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  Speaker 2: I promise you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's the government. They waste a billion dollars
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  Speaker 1: every second on something.
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  Speaker 2: But I understand that. But the the premises you're not
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be wasting money, premises you're supposed to go
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  Speaker 2: in there and yeah and fix those things and not
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  Speaker 2: not waste money. And obviously every every poll I've seen
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  Speaker 2: that there's there's no support for this ballroom.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let me try one other argument. If you're
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  Speaker 1: going to build a ballroom, why not do it when
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  Speaker 1: you're president happens to be an expert at building ballrooms,
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  Speaker 1: He's done it all over the world.
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  Speaker 2: You'll never have the realities. Well, if you want to
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  Speaker 2: build hotels around the world, and the price is also
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  Speaker 2: an expert doing that, that's it's the worst environment to
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  Speaker 2: try and do this. So I'm telling you is don't underestimate.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you talk to anybody out around the
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  Speaker 2: country that this is this is one of the key issues,
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  Speaker 2: and it would be a gigantic issue in this campaign.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you one more thing, spending You've spent
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  Speaker 1: so much time in the White House. The Rose garden.
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  Speaker 1: It's much better now with the beautiful patio than the grass.
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  Speaker 2: Some people think that. Some people like the old rose,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, I'm going to some people think so,
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  Speaker 2: some people who think the changes to the White House
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  Speaker 2: are great. Some people think it's all very tacky. So
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  Speaker 2: but I think right now people would rather have their
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  Speaker 2: money being spent on things that obviously, uh, keep taxes
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  Speaker 2: lower and basically keep keep ordinary people more in line
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  Speaker 2: with the president's focus on I think people getting tired
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  Speaker 2: of the Middle East paddles they're talking about in the Cuba,
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  Speaker 2: talk for getting in the Greenland and all that kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff. Focus on getting this thing fixed and get
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  Speaker 2: this economy moving positively towards Americans is a much better issue.
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  Speaker 2: I would hate to be having run campaigns all over
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  Speaker 2: this country, congressional and Senate, presidential. I would hate to
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  Speaker 2: be out there defending these things. I think it puts
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  Speaker 2: as fast as the president is the communicator is going
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  Speaker 2: to why I waste his time basedly, it's not going
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  Speaker 2: to be there when the ball and was finished. And
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  Speaker 2: there's certainly no demand by any of the candidates, uh
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  Speaker 2: argument that I need I need to put more billionaires
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  Speaker 2: in the in the ballroom.
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  Speaker 1: One more question. You've spent a million hours in the
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  Speaker 1: Oval office. When you see it now with five million
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  Speaker 1: paintings all over every inch of the wall and that gold,
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  Speaker 1: gold ornate gold, every it is a little too much,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: It's tacky. I mean I every time I watch it,
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  Speaker 2: I get the writing of a holiday and a holiday
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  Speaker 2: in and then that renders the holiday in. But it's
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  Speaker 2: just not it's you know, it's a very special place.
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  Speaker 2: And I think, to a certain extent, this is what
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  Speaker 2: the president I used to do. Obviously, I'm sure walks
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  Speaker 2: in every room he's ever in and it says I
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  Speaker 2: could fix this, I could fix that, but there's too many.
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  Speaker 2: It's every time I see it, there's a new gold
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  Speaker 2: something or other somewhere, new trophy, and and it's a
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  Speaker 2: certain extent that's not it's it's a it's a very
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  Speaker 2: special place and and and historically it needs to be
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  Speaker 2: created as a special place.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well you tell him. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: tell him, but uh, uh hey, let me ask you this. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: there's some Democratic candidates. You got this guy Platner in Maine,
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  Speaker 1: big Nazi tattoo right on his chest, a history of
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  Speaker 1: saying the most disgusting things of how what happened that
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  Speaker 1: they're now going with candidates like this and they're all
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  Speaker 1: back in them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's a big personality, it's it's a race has
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  Speaker 2: become competitive. He's kind of an unknown guy and he's
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  Speaker 2: he's now become a very popular candidate. And to a
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  Speaker 2: certain extent. Uh, you know, how do we get the
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  Speaker 2: mayor of New York. You know, he doesn't have it,
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't have a tattoo on a chest, but it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. You know, Socialist is across his forehead. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, you and I a year ago would never
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  Speaker 2: thought he had been elected. So there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: a lot of strange candidates out there that there's there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of disaffection for the establishment and the Republican establishments,
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  Speaker 2: particularly so identified hard and this thing is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a knockdown, drag out collection. I do think the
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  Speaker 2: president has got tremendous resources money wise, and if they
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  Speaker 2: spend it well, they may make it better than people
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  Speaker 2: anticipate today. But that's certainly holding the House and now
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  Speaker 2: the Senate being in play is not what you want
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  Speaker 2: the last two years of the administration.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever seen it like this bad way? Any
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  Speaker 1: party is so far extremist to the Democrats, so far left?
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever seen that before in any era?
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  Speaker 2: Not myer? And certainly I go back fifty years and
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  Speaker 2: I studied history, and I've taught courses, so I pretty
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  Speaker 2: much know the political world for a long time from
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  Speaker 2: at least a historical perspectives. And I think to a
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  Speaker 2: certain extent, this president's of a different personality. He's bigger
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  Speaker 2: than my personality, you know. And I think to a
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  Speaker 2: certain extent, some people life and some people don't. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the worst polling numbers in any president in modern history,
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  Speaker 2: and he's got it. Someone has to count, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the bottom line, and you're not gonna win here if
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  Speaker 2: not just Republicans, and they're starting to be a little
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  Speaker 2: hangar there, but the independence are poorality of voters today.
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  Speaker 2: Independence were a big part of his his nomination and
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  Speaker 2: his win, and I think to a certain extent they
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  Speaker 2: got to get those independence back.
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  Speaker 1: Well Ed Rowlands, great stuff, always great talking to you.
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  Speaker 1: Keep up the good work and we'll talk again soon.
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  Speaker 2: And how much you're going to send you to the UH.
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  Speaker 1: I have to stay neutral on this.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, stay neutral all you'll get invited no matter what.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. Take care, great Ed Rowlands. Uh, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: don't forget at noon today, Buck and Clay, everybody's back.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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