Latest / The Huddle / 02/12/26 - Hour 1
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Top of the Thursday Morning smart, good looking listeners, insomniacs
- 0:04Speaker 1: and just psychopaths who are awake at five am with
- 0:07Speaker 1: us huddle up, Drew Wilson, Billy schmid Arman, sorry and
- 0:11Speaker 1: bringing it to you on this Thursday, Friday Eve, Friday Junior.
- 0:15Speaker 2: All the above as we get ready for the weekend,
- 0:18Speaker 2: we get it today. We're in the spot else also
- 0:20Speaker 2: where you really start counting down to the weekend. Well,
- 0:23Speaker 2: it does feel like now into the doldrums, into the
- 0:28Speaker 2: all Star break All Star break Heart of the Winter,
- 0:32Speaker 2: Like this is where you really start counting yourself down
- 0:34Speaker 2: to all right, we got about four more times. I
- 0:37Speaker 2: got to push this Penske file to the other side
- 0:38Speaker 2: of my desk and make sure everybody realizes that I'm
- 0:41Speaker 2: still doing something.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Halfway through February already. Let's cook man. It's pretty impressive.
- 0:45Speaker 3: Man. We're doing it.
- 0:46Speaker 2: We're doing it, head down, full steam ahead, right at
- 0:48Speaker 2: the end of the tunnel.
- 0:49Speaker 3: Billy's here, he gets buckets. I love that. I get
- 0:53Speaker 3: busy like Cam Thomas.
- 0:54Speaker 1: He gets buckets, bushing win last night with the Newcomer,
- 0:57Speaker 1: dropping a thirty burger and gets you find you someone
- 1:00Speaker 1: that looks at you the way Giannis looked at k
- 1:03Speaker 1: Thomas walking off that for lass.
- 1:05Speaker 3: I took over last night. So the pater Orlando now,
- 1:07Speaker 3: but they know him got to look like that the Mariah.
- 1:10Speaker 1: I would think the market correction will come this evening
- 1:12Speaker 1: when the back half of it back to back in Oklahoma.
- 1:15Speaker 3: So yeah, for sure they look like globe trotters last night.
- 1:18Speaker 1: If the Bucks can keep it somewhat competitive and then
- 1:20Speaker 1: go into the break.
- 1:21Speaker 3: But then Arman here is committing to the bit.
- 1:23Speaker 1: He is, Oh, I'm not ducking the smoke Olympicgalia courtesy
- 1:29Speaker 1: off r pal Pete.
- 1:30Speaker 2: If you didn't rock the golden jacket today, I don't
- 1:32Speaker 2: know what when possibly would want to?
- 1:35Speaker 4: Oh great point, I mean, this is one of the
- 1:37Speaker 4: many days to do it. But after last night, you know,
- 1:39Speaker 4: some uh some Olympic glory for us here in Wisconsin
- 1:42Speaker 4: as well as the United to It's always a little
- 1:44Speaker 4: more special when it's a hometown guy. So yeah, I
- 1:46Speaker 4: had to be rocking the uh the yellow CBS jackets
- 1:51Speaker 4: thanks to Big Vegas.
- 1:52Speaker 3: Pete for sure, absolutely.
- 1:54Speaker 1: All right, So yeah Jordan still's a record holder gold medalist.
- 1:57Speaker 1: How about that point of personal pride? He'll never have
- 2:00Speaker 1: to buy a drink in Key Waskam again.
- 2:02Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, or West Bend, and I've heard
- 2:05Speaker 4: nippring reports. I know it's he's a key Washam native.
- 2:09Speaker 4: I think the school was in West Bend. And then
- 2:11Speaker 4: then they said Milwaukee, so you take your pick. I
- 2:13Speaker 4: know he's not you know, maybe he's living in Milwaukee.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Southeastern portion of the state. Listen, if you're from the state,
- 2:18Speaker 2: you're from the entire portion of the state. Even though
- 2:20Speaker 2: the rest of the state might not love the southeastern
- 2:23Speaker 2: portion of the state. We love all of you, and
- 2:25Speaker 2: we love every bit of a nooking granny around.
- 2:27Speaker 3: This beautiful good land.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Got people state wide listening nine twenty Milwaukee, ten to
- 2:32Speaker 1: seventy Madison, iHeartRadio, app everywhere, YouTube, Facebook, and x So.
- 2:37Speaker 1: As we gain momentum and we get down to the
- 2:39Speaker 1: back half, we go over the hump. Yesterday, Hot take
- 2:41Speaker 1: comp Day, and then we got we're on the downslide
- 2:44Speaker 1: now of the week. It dawns on me that after Friday,
- 2:48Speaker 1: I got a week off and Billy will be also
- 2:51Speaker 1: from the Sunny Bureau in Florida.
- 2:54Speaker 3: You can't wait the Grapefruit League. Billy will be bringing
- 2:56Speaker 3: you the show.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Billy's smarter than me, because if I had to take,
- 2:59Speaker 1: you know, grab one of those access units, I don't
- 3:01Speaker 1: have to burn a week of vacation.
- 3:02Speaker 2: There.
- 3:02Speaker 3: You go a show out of the way, and then spend.
- 3:04Speaker 1: The rest of the day drinking tequila and eating tacos
- 3:06Speaker 1: and being on the beach. I hadn't thought of that.
- 3:08Speaker 1: I just thought, well, I'll just do the whole week
- 3:10Speaker 1: of unplugging. But maybe next time I take a vacation,
- 3:12Speaker 1: I'll pull the Billy and just actually broadcast in the morning.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Yeah, and and frankly, I was trying to do it
- 3:17Speaker 2: later into the year, but you know what, the time
- 3:19Speaker 2: changes might not work very well when we actually get
- 3:21Speaker 2: out to Arizona, but we'll definitely be tapping in. Part
- 3:23Speaker 2: of it also is fellas home be up right, like
- 3:25Speaker 2: the kids are not going to necessarily work exactly.
- 3:28Speaker 3: Wait that, well, I.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Might as well enjoy a cup of coffee out on
- 3:32Speaker 2: the patio, and for that, I might as well bring
- 3:33Speaker 2: some sights and sounds of the Grapefruit League, even though
- 3:35Speaker 2: we care more.
- 3:36Speaker 1: About the cactus in Florida too. You'll be doing the
- 3:38Speaker 1: show six to nine, six and nine and the absolutely
- 3:41Speaker 1: beautiful the summer. Obviously, someone say nice and yeah, you're right, Billy.
- 3:45Speaker 1: You know if you're gonna be up anyway, right, Drew.
- 3:47Speaker 1: I think that's the difference.
- 3:48Speaker 4: Like if you if you plan on sleeping and in
- 3:50Speaker 4: your vacation, then I wouldn't say you want to do it,
- 3:52Speaker 4: because then that kind of ruins the whole purpose of
- 3:54Speaker 4: what you're doing is getting on the getting on the
- 3:56Speaker 4: vacation and sleeping in. But in Billy's case, I don't
- 3:59Speaker 4: think he's gonna have that opportuny.
- 4:00Speaker 3: So I was.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Probably gonna wake up with a foot in my cheek
- 4:03Speaker 2: by about five point fifteen, and not necessarily the backside one. Yeah,
- 4:07Speaker 2: definitely would be more into the teeth that I'd be
- 4:10Speaker 2: taking a heel by about five.
- 4:11Speaker 3: But it's gonna be great.
- 4:12Speaker 4: It'll be great to have a millions obviously and enjoying
- 4:16Speaker 4: some time.
- 4:16Speaker 3: Almost felt like you meant that I appreciate it.
- 4:18Speaker 4: I do. I'm happy you're gonna be on with this,
- 4:20Speaker 4: but I don't want you to feel like you ever
- 4:22Speaker 4: had to you.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Know, Hunter Bomb Guard's gonna sit in for me. There's
- 4:25Speaker 1: awesome a lot of good brewers.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Conversation with a Hunter a little bit yesterday about where
- 4:30Speaker 2: they're rolling. And listen from Daniel Vogelbach yesterday as well,
- 4:33Speaker 2: there's a little new look Milwaukee Brewers team, and uh,
- 4:37Speaker 2: even though it might be an old guard at the
- 4:40Speaker 2: front end of the Brewers coaching staff, I found some
- 4:43Speaker 2: of the earliest Pat Murphy audio to be able to
- 4:46Speaker 2: spin through later on we.
- 4:47Speaker 1: Might have found old absolute gold reach out to us
- 4:51Speaker 1: eight seven seven, seven ninety four one ninety seven three.
- 4:54Speaker 1: I guess the Olympics are a nice diversion right now,
- 4:57Speaker 1: right because we're having our football withdrawals.
- 5:00Speaker 3: Totally, Yeah, totally, I mean I think so.
- 5:02Speaker 4: I mean, and it's not everyone's cup of team maybe,
- 5:04Speaker 4: but it depends on the uh, depends on the event.
- 5:07Speaker 3: Competition, because last night's a letdown.
- 5:09Speaker 1: You We had two actually well three good college basketball
- 5:12Speaker 1: games on Tuesday night, and then last night it's like, okay,
- 5:16Speaker 1: we got the Bush Bucks, Like, okay, Bucks, Orlando, you
- 5:20Speaker 1: want to see and Cam Thomas giddy up, get go listen,
- 5:24Speaker 1: four year old guy who gets buckets man, Like that's
- 5:27Speaker 1: that's an element that's been missing with the Bucks ages,
- 5:29Speaker 1: this instant offense like that. When we talked to Stan
- 5:32Speaker 1: van Gundy was that earlier this week and he said,
- 5:34Speaker 1: he's like, they have some nice little pieces. What they
- 5:36Speaker 1: need is a second or third scorer, and you can
- 5:39Speaker 1: find one right there of somebody that can. Does he
- 5:41Speaker 1: need to take twenty shots every night? Probably not.
- 5:44Speaker 2: However, I kind of liked Ryan Rollins taking the toy
- 5:47Speaker 2: or I see Ryan Rollins taking twenty shots tonight, So
- 5:49Speaker 2: I like seeing Cam Thomas get an opportunity to do it.
- 5:51Speaker 2: And I mean even the other deadline acquisition, Uzman Dyang
- 5:55Speaker 2: five of eight from Downtown seventeen, like that's it.
- 5:58Speaker 3: He looks like he might have something there, have a
- 6:00Speaker 3: little bit of a spark there.
- 6:01Speaker 2: You just got to try to grab as many lottery
- 6:03Speaker 2: tickets as you can and see the nice thing in now,
- 6:07Speaker 2: maybe it might be the bad thing if you really
- 6:09Speaker 2: look at how bad the tanking situation in the NBA is,
- 6:12Speaker 2: you might just not be able to tank. Like there
- 6:15Speaker 2: might just be so many teams tanking that you might
- 6:18Speaker 2: just want to play the last two months out and
- 6:20Speaker 2: take it for what it is, night to night entertainment.
- 6:22Speaker 3: See if they win or.
- 6:23Speaker 4: The good point, I mean, if everyone's if everyone's in
- 6:25Speaker 4: the same kind of soup and they're all trying to lose,
- 6:27Speaker 4: and it's a big awkward situation.
- 6:30Speaker 1: And that's one of the things as you look at
- 6:32Speaker 1: it the landscape, and you're right, Billy, intellectually you say, well,
- 6:35Speaker 1: the Bucks, your tank can get the best pick possible
- 6:37Speaker 1: and stuff.
- 6:37Speaker 3: And then you say, well, maybe there's something here.
- 6:39Speaker 1: Maybe when Giannis comes back, if they could get into
- 6:42Speaker 1: the playoffs, take your chances right, try to win. If
- 6:44Speaker 1: they're trying to make Giannis feel like there's something to
- 6:46Speaker 1: come make.
- 6:47Speaker 3: Him happy, feel like something to come back to this one.
- 6:49Speaker 1: Yeah, Doc Rivers last night comparing Cam Thomas to like
- 6:53Speaker 1: Jamal Crawford and Lou Williams love that, like, giddy up,
- 6:56Speaker 1: Lou Williams.
- 6:57Speaker 3: We'll take it. When's the last time a Buck score
- 6:59Speaker 3: thirty points off the bench? I can't remember it. I
- 7:02Speaker 3: cannot remember kind a long time.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Yeah, And a lot of it is just somebody with
- 7:05Speaker 1: me or somebody maybe but like or probably.
- 7:08Speaker 3: I was gonna say, baby, Bobby body or you know,
- 7:11Speaker 3: never scored that.
- 7:12Speaker 4: Man.
- 7:12Speaker 3: Don't you just need some like.
- 7:13Speaker 2: Your rational confidence in your shot making to be able
- 7:16Speaker 2: to do that coming off the bench.
- 7:17Speaker 1: In twenty five minutes. No, doubt, but you're right. And
- 7:19Speaker 1: then yeh, Jericho Sims with the double double. There was
- 7:22Speaker 1: a spark there, a little bit of a spark. Now again,
- 7:24Speaker 1: it's gonna look different at Oklahoma City tonight on the
- 7:26Speaker 1: very much shot back to back on the getaway day
- 7:29Speaker 1: when everybody's going, you know, on laucation.
- 7:32Speaker 4: But you see the young pieces this team could be
- 7:34Speaker 4: putting together if they stay healthy. I mean KPJ last
- 7:36Speaker 4: night as well, you know obviously, and he's been a
- 7:39Speaker 4: talent and I think we've been excited about it. Seems
- 7:41Speaker 4: like the Bucks have had limited resources to try and
- 7:43Speaker 4: get talented players, but they've been able to do it
- 7:45Speaker 4: with the kind of cheese and crackers kind of budget
- 7:48Speaker 4: or not budget, but.
- 7:48Speaker 3: You know, resources, the.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Restraints that they have. And now all of a sudden,
- 7:53Speaker 2: you blink and they've won four or five. And I
- 7:54Speaker 2: don't know it all fully coincides with the honest conversation,
- 7:58Speaker 2: but it kind of does, right Like a lot of
- 8:00Speaker 2: it lines up. And in the same timing of last
- 8:02Speaker 2: week with the deadline Monday and Tuesday, UH with the
- 8:06Speaker 2: Bulls and Pelicans games both at home into Friday night
- 8:09Speaker 2: against the Pacers, who are plucky even though they're without
- 8:12Speaker 2: their best player as well, you end up coming through
- 8:14Speaker 2: and winning that game like you're just in a spot
- 8:16Speaker 2: where you might as well. Atlanta literally traded healthy players,
- 8:23Speaker 2: got healthy players back, and they're ready to sit those
- 8:26Speaker 2: healthy players. Washington traded for two guys, and they're like, uh,
- 8:29Speaker 2: Anthony Davis, actually, how about you just hang out in Barbados? Like,
- 8:32Speaker 2: we're all good. We don't need any of that. So
- 8:39Speaker 2: why would you not take the Kings plus five and
- 8:40Speaker 2: a half last night in your four leg parlay, which
- 8:42Speaker 2: is the last piece of the parlay, and then they're
- 8:45Speaker 2: up thirty nine to twenty at the end of the
- 8:47Speaker 2: first half first quarter, Chaz decided to say, oh, tanking
- 8:50Speaker 2: conversations will beat this ass by twenty five.
- 8:52Speaker 3: Last night.
- 8:53Speaker 2: However, like you see enough teams drew where they're like, yeah,
- 8:57Speaker 2: but if we get enough ping pong balls, we could
- 8:59Speaker 2: get a Cooper flag. We don't need to be the
- 9:01Speaker 2: worst team in the league. I mean, what did the
- 9:03Speaker 2: MAVs have the eleven thirteen? That's odds to get it
- 9:07Speaker 2: last year.
- 9:07Speaker 1: The problem with the NBA and the NBA has got
- 9:09Speaker 1: some problems. When you have the order of the League
- 9:12Speaker 1: tanking with two months left, not ideal.
- 9:15Speaker 2: And like brutally evidently tanking, like in your face.
- 9:18Speaker 3: Thinking that's the thing. That's the thing.
- 9:20Speaker 1: Like there's tanking, and then there's tanking because there are
- 9:22Speaker 1: some teams yeah, like you know that are just benching
- 9:25Speaker 1: guys in the third quarter of games that are bowl
- 9:28Speaker 1: and just like, well let's call off the dogs here.
- 9:30Speaker 4: Well, and here's a hot take, even though it's Thursday, guys.
- 9:32Speaker 4: The lottery was I think originally intended to prevent teams
- 9:35Speaker 4: from tanking because there wasn't gonna be in theory. Yeah,
- 9:38Speaker 4: you couldn't as much function in it, right, you can't
- 9:40Speaker 4: control your position. But I think it's done the opposite
- 9:43Speaker 4: because if everyone has a chance to get lottery, to
- 9:46Speaker 4: get ping pong balls and to get a pick, and
- 9:48Speaker 4: everybody wants to be the Mavericks from the or the
- 9:51Speaker 4: Derek Rose the Bulls of the one year they got
- 9:53Speaker 4: Derek Rose, and everyone's like, well, I might as well
- 9:56Speaker 4: try too, because we all have a shot at more
- 9:57Speaker 4: ping pong balls. So then more team's tank because it
- 10:01Speaker 4: becomes more feasible you could kind of beat the odds
- 10:04Speaker 4: and get it and get a pick. So it becomes awkward,
- 10:06Speaker 4: and there's so many teams that are just like living
- 10:10Speaker 4: in this spot of well, we're not good enough to
- 10:12Speaker 4: win the whole thing, so we might as well be
- 10:14Speaker 4: bad enough to try to get the best pick. And
- 10:16Speaker 4: this year's college basketball I think also incentivizes teams to
- 10:20Speaker 4: do it, because as much as I'm not going to
- 10:21Speaker 4: fall in love with the sport overall, like the sport
- 10:24Speaker 4: is kicking the NBA's hind parts every single night, Like
- 10:26Speaker 4: the amount of good games and good action on top
- 10:30Speaker 4: of really really high level play because the players are
- 10:32Speaker 4: probably better than they were for the last decade. It's
- 10:34Speaker 4: a good point, right, better players staying not going either
- 10:37Speaker 4: overseas or into the second round of the NBA draft. Like,
- 10:40Speaker 4: you've seen really competitive games every single night, and I
- 10:43Speaker 4: think the rest of the front offices are saying, yeah,
- 10:45Speaker 4: we could see AJ. I think Utah is just trying
- 10:47Speaker 4: to find a way for AJ to keep his same
- 10:50Speaker 4: apartment in Salt Lake or just move like fifteen miles
- 10:53Speaker 4: over and stay in Utah. Like there's a lot of
- 10:56Speaker 4: teams that are already strategizing how they're gonna use their
- 10:58Speaker 4: pick this year and we're still a month away from
- 11:01Speaker 4: selection Sunday and I get like, I totally get, especially
- 11:04Speaker 4: this year, like what the function in trying to tank
- 11:07Speaker 4: would be, and get ping punk balls because the Buck's
- 11:10Speaker 4: best chance is to spike a big time pick, like
- 11:12Speaker 4: a top three pick, get lucky in that regard, and
- 11:15Speaker 4: use that as a resource or a centerpiece going forward.
- 11:17Speaker 4: But in Milwaukee, it might be the one unique place
- 11:20Speaker 4: we're trying to win has more of an actual tangible
- 11:23Speaker 4: function than anywhere else because of the honest situation. Because
- 11:26Speaker 4: you have a guy that literally is telling you I
- 11:29Speaker 4: like being here, I want to be here, but I
- 11:31Speaker 4: want to win and that's important to me. So showing
- 11:34Speaker 4: him that you can win with a young group is
- 11:36Speaker 4: almost as important as anything else because you're trying to
- 11:38Speaker 4: convince him to stay. Maybe it's not an extension, So
- 11:40Speaker 4: there's an actual tangible effect here than most teams don't have.
- 11:43Speaker 2: Oh no, Johannis did look like he was licking his
- 11:45Speaker 2: lips like he saw a fourteen ounce porterhouse get dropped.
- 11:48Speaker 3: Yet in front of you win. Camp Thomas was walking
- 11:50Speaker 3: back to the bench.
- 11:51Speaker 1: That times all right, So what can we do to
- 11:52Speaker 1: make camp Thomas love Milwaukee in Wisconsin? You know, and
- 11:56Speaker 1: make him want to well, like this here, what can
- 11:59Speaker 1: we do to welcome the young lad twenty four years
- 12:01Speaker 1: old born in Japan, played in You're a high school
- 12:05Speaker 1: in Virginia, then went to Oak Hill. Hmm, I went
- 12:08Speaker 1: to LSU for a second like that. Okay, so a
- 12:10Speaker 1: little bit of how traveler. Yeah, how do we make
- 12:13Speaker 1: sure that this guy is like, okay, I want to
- 12:15Speaker 1: be in Milwaukee? Make him an evangelist for loving Milwaukee,
- 12:18Speaker 1: not like most of the NBA that looks at Milwaukee
- 12:21Speaker 1: as Siberia, a place where you bunker in and get
- 12:24Speaker 1: rest for the fun cities, or you import your yeah,
- 12:28Speaker 1: your entertainment, in your entertainment, you fly them in to
- 12:31Speaker 1: help you pass the time until you can leave Milwaukee.
- 12:33Speaker 3: That's the attitude of many people.
- 12:35Speaker 2: The first thing for that is you show him seven
- 12:37Speaker 2: ninety four, like you show him the homebridge. How quickly
- 12:39Speaker 2: that ten minute drives right like that? That is a
- 12:40Speaker 2: quick little right over to the airport.
- 12:42Speaker 3: True. Second off, you start out at sweet Diner.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Maybe just run through like a run of Yannis's places,
- 12:48Speaker 2: right like, have Yiannis run him through like this whole
- 12:50Speaker 2: block damn near the third ward, this.
- 12:52Speaker 3: Whole spot yeah, started off on a breakfast at Sweet Diner.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Well hang out. Maybe I don't know. He lived around
- 12:58Speaker 2: the world. Sounds like he probably would appreciate at the
- 13:00Speaker 2: art museum. Yeah, oh yeah, Well he has a little
- 13:02Speaker 2: arty out there. Get a tour over there, wander around.
- 13:06Speaker 2: You need it to be at least sunny, and it
- 13:07Speaker 2: seems like we're gonna have that opportunity the next couple
- 13:09Speaker 2: of days, right, and all of a sudden forty degrees
- 13:12Speaker 2: in the sun. Well greenhouse effect. He's gonna start seeing
- 13:15Speaker 2: people with shorts. He's gonna say, these people might be crazy,
- 13:17Speaker 2: but I kind of like the cut of their jib,
- 13:19Speaker 2: so I think that's where it is. It's genuinely just
- 13:22Speaker 2: like what Yannis did. Wander him around and see the
- 13:25Speaker 2: love here. And then also, you know, Casino Hotel, get
- 13:28Speaker 2: him over there to dream.
- 13:30Speaker 3: Dance steakhouse and get him a big old cut of meat. Later,
- 13:32Speaker 3: winning a bunch of games would help. That would help
- 13:35Speaker 3: with Giannis, would help a contract. I'm sure money to stay.
- 13:38Speaker 1: But yeah, cam Thomas, like he said what he had
- 13:40Speaker 1: a couple of forty point nights.
- 13:42Speaker 3: He said, the dude's explosive.
- 13:44Speaker 4: He is.
- 13:46Speaker 3: Buckets forty points I.
- 13:47Speaker 2: Believe in the league reminds me in that regard of
- 13:50Speaker 2: what like Kevin Porter Junior's mantra was orm around the
- 13:54Speaker 2: league was before he came over here, Like yeah, he
- 13:55Speaker 2: can fill it up every once in a while, but
- 13:57Speaker 2: consistently don't know what you're gonna see. I've you don't
- 14:01Speaker 2: know what you're gonna have when somebody actually believes in you.
- 14:04Speaker 2: And and Cam Thomas feels like the Kirkland brand version,
- 14:07Speaker 2: or at least a less discussed version of Jonathan Kaminga
- 14:11Speaker 2: where like everybody wants to tell you why he should
- 14:15Speaker 2: be somewhere else and why he's not good enough to
- 14:18Speaker 2: play here. But all of a sudden you go somewhere
- 14:19Speaker 2: and they give you the opportunity you don't know where
- 14:21Speaker 2: you could flourish to and I mean, get it yourself off.
- 14:25Speaker 2: The Brooklyn nets might always allow you to feel a
- 14:28Speaker 2: little bit more inspired.
- 14:29Speaker 1: Well, and after being there and spending parts of five
- 14:33Speaker 1: seasons right with Brooklyn, like that's you.
- 14:38Speaker 3: He's had that, he's had that experience.
- 14:41Speaker 1: It's a little bit like what guys say when they're
- 14:44Speaker 1: telling their friends, no, Green Bay is not that bad.
- 14:45Speaker 1: It's all football. When you come here and just totally
- 14:47Speaker 1: focus on football and the other stuff. Just don't worry
- 14:49Speaker 1: about it and you can like establish and grab something here.
- 14:53Speaker 1: I think Keishawn has said variations of that. Uh, we've
- 14:55Speaker 1: heard variations of that before.
- 14:57Speaker 2: I thought Keishaw Nixon and Xavier McKinney right like in
- 15:00Speaker 2: New York, He's like, I lived that life for four years.
- 15:02Speaker 2: I think I can lock in a little bit more now,
- 15:04Speaker 2: and now I can like this is and then the
- 15:05Speaker 2: guys who played in Alabama are like, well, it's kind
- 15:07Speaker 2: of like Tuscaloosa. Everything's football and it's all you're you're
- 15:10Speaker 2: you're steeped in it, and some guys thriving that.
- 15:14Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, guys need the we need to go out.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Look, I need to be able to go out and
- 15:19Speaker 1: get falafel at two a M.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Good reference. Yeah, exactly anything I want.
- 15:27Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think also the fact that he's
- 15:30Speaker 4: trying to not rebuild his career, but he's trying to
- 15:32Speaker 4: establish himself in a career and establish things for him.
- 15:35Speaker 4: He's probably focusing on basketball is good for him and Pete.
- 15:38Speaker 4: Pete brought this up here in the comments. He wanted
- 15:40Speaker 4: to be in Milwaukee, so he already specifically kind of
- 15:42Speaker 4: eyed us and saying, you know what, that might be
- 15:44Speaker 4: a place I want to be. But if it's that
- 15:45Speaker 4: whole family atmosphere, it's that whole like culture that when
- 15:49Speaker 4: the Bucks are we're going good was pervading. I mean
- 15:52Speaker 4: when you had you know, Jiannis and Drew and everyone
- 15:54Speaker 4: feel good about it and and Brooke and Chris and
- 15:57Speaker 4: all these guys. If you can get your loudest, your
- 15:59Speaker 4: best player, your biggest start, and you're allowed to be
- 16:01Speaker 4: your loudest evangelist about that, and if that's the honest,
- 16:04Speaker 4: then it can be a big help. I think to say, hey,
- 16:06Speaker 4: you know what, we have a nice little hamlet here
- 16:08Speaker 4: where it's a great environment where we can focus on basketball.
- 16:11Speaker 4: You don't get bothered as much, you know, things like that,
- 16:13Speaker 4: the things Giannis likes about town.
- 16:15Speaker 3: So you just hope that that kind of a little bit.
- 16:17Speaker 1: One of the advantages, and it's a hidden advantage that
- 16:20Speaker 1: the Brewers have in our market, is that their guys
- 16:22Speaker 1: are here in the summer. In the summer, Yeah, I
- 16:24Speaker 1: remember I had conversation with bron about it. Granky the
- 16:28Speaker 1: year the year Granky had his best year and like
- 16:31Speaker 1: his full season here, Like I don't even remember what
- 16:33Speaker 1: year it was because it all runs again to eleven.
- 16:36Speaker 1: Yeah it was eleven, yep, and that I think twenty
- 16:38Speaker 1: eleven was let's go back and check and ask our
- 16:41Speaker 1: meteorologist friends.
- 16:41Speaker 3: But I think statistically that might have been like the
- 16:43Speaker 3: most perfect feels like it probably was.
- 16:45Speaker 1: It was like perfect, Like the weather was like and
- 16:48Speaker 1: Granky had played in Kansas City a long time.
- 16:49Speaker 3: It gets hot in Kansas City. Man, there's days were
- 16:51Speaker 3: just sweltering, sweltering hot. Here. It was it was perfect.
- 16:56Speaker 1: And like those guys and so for Brewers, guys like, yeah,
- 16:59Speaker 1: it's not so bad, and like they and I. I
- 17:03Speaker 1: I happen to live near Lake Michigan, and there's a
- 17:05Speaker 1: there's a big park behind the summerfest grounds that I
- 17:08Speaker 1: walk the dog and I see players and sometimes their
- 17:10Speaker 1: wives and stuff. And they love that area there and
- 17:13Speaker 1: they love and so yeah, you know, it's a great
- 17:17Speaker 1: place to be in the summer.
- 17:18Speaker 3: In the winter. Yeah it's tough. What are you doing? Like,
- 17:21Speaker 3: I'm this thing got in here.
- 17:23Speaker 1: I just saw armand shadow boxing in there. There's big
- 17:25Speaker 1: there's a bird in them is.
- 17:27Speaker 4: A huge bug. I mean, I know this is like
- 17:29Speaker 4: an actual like yellowjacket, or it's a Jurassic You see
- 17:34Speaker 4: how big that boy? It's a big old boy. I'm
- 17:36Speaker 4: not I'm not really scared.
- 17:38Speaker 3: Like about ten or fifteen feet away from you, and you.
- 17:40Speaker 1: Gotta was just I saw him even I looked up
- 17:44Speaker 1: and saw armand just like I mean.
- 17:46Speaker 3: To distract you guys, but it's all like a butterfly, Like, yeah,
- 17:50Speaker 3: maybe I should like this. You know, we're on the
- 17:51Speaker 3: vertical view. Maybe if I flip to the wide view,
- 17:53Speaker 3: you guys will see this thing. Year of the quarter.
- 17:58Speaker 4: You know, I'm not a I'm an entomologist, but once
- 18:01Speaker 4: I identify the species, I'll feel better. But I'm just
- 18:04Speaker 4: trying to get out. Okay, then get out of here. Guy,
- 18:06Speaker 4: How did you get the first place for them?
- 18:08Speaker 3: I'm about to do that.
- 18:09Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, my goodness, Oh Armon, Wow,
- 18:13Speaker 1: such a gamer.
- 18:15Speaker 3: It was.
- 18:17Speaker 2: I just when I saw, Holy cow, what the hell
- 18:20Speaker 2: it looks like? I thought there was a bat. I
- 18:22Speaker 2: think it's this thing dropped over. Wow facebugs are all
- 18:25Speaker 2: over the place right now. That's fine, which is fine.
- 18:27Speaker 2: And then I really they're harmless. They're just saying they're harmless.
- 18:30Speaker 2: So if I identify it.
- 18:31Speaker 4: I'm trying to say, but this big old boy was
- 18:33Speaker 4: flying around in my face here and it's only five.
- 18:36Speaker 2: You don't like these bugs infiltrating your hamlet. You're smaller
- 18:40Speaker 2: sentiment than a village, smaller spot than a village.
- 18:42Speaker 3: But what use hamlet?
- 18:45Speaker 1: Temperature in there below eighty degrees? It might not be
- 18:48Speaker 1: that conducive, right.
- 18:50Speaker 4: Listen for the Uh, I'm just saying, it is winter.
- 18:54Speaker 4: I know it's getting warm with this, but it is winter.
- 18:56Speaker 4: Usually this is not an issue right now? What are
- 18:58Speaker 4: you turning that place into the butterfly lit great spot
- 19:04Speaker 4: until until they move it?
- 19:05Speaker 3: Yeah, armisole.
- 19:06Speaker 4: Yeah, the domes, the domes are still Yeah, I got
- 19:09Speaker 4: a domes eight seven seven seven nine ninety seven three,
- 19:13Speaker 4: a free form, free flowing.
- 19:15Speaker 1: The first day on the program today, uh celebrating Cam
- 19:18Speaker 1: Thomas's outburst last night and a rare Bucks Road victory.
- 19:21Speaker 1: It's been a while on the road, which is nice.
- 19:24Speaker 1: Anything that they win without Giannis is a plus. We'll
- 19:27Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that Packers have a new
- 19:29Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, the same as the old quarterbacks coach, kind of.
- 19:31Speaker 3: We'll talk about that same as it ever was. We
- 19:34Speaker 3: move forward.
- 19:34Speaker 1: Uh, Billy's got some Murph video for us as well,
- 19:39Speaker 1: or you know it, Dolphin being here guiding us through halftime.
- 19:42Speaker 1: We're glad that you're hanging out with us on this
- 19:44Speaker 1: early Thursday. It's the Huddle on Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin.
- 19:48Speaker 3: What else.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Okay?
- 19:54Speaker 3: Right? Oh, Jericho, you're a man, so okay, you get
- 20:02Speaker 3: what Bud? Wait, you compete everybody.
- 20:14Speaker 1: Little Bucks postgame celebration all too rare. This championship season
- 20:18Speaker 1: all too rare.
- 20:19Speaker 3: I love that.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Yeah, Bucks beating Orlando last evening in Florida. That's funny
- 20:25Speaker 1: how they you're gonna play a better game in Florida
- 20:27Speaker 1: than you might in Miami.
- 20:29Speaker 3: It might work, Yeah, although I mean Orlando.
- 20:31Speaker 1: Orlando's got some temptation, but some some stuff.
- 20:35Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean like Lucy and Giannish. Maybe walk
- 20:38Speaker 2: around Disney. Uh listen, I'm glad the calf is obviously
- 20:42Speaker 2: feeling better.
- 20:43Speaker 3: We're strolling around that park. That's a long jaunt.
- 20:46Speaker 2: But also he probably enjoyed it not having potentially the
- 20:48Speaker 2: kids around, right, Like, just let be able to stroll around,
- 20:51Speaker 2: Drew and not have somebody asking you for a bubble
- 20:53Speaker 2: wand and the other asking for a turero and then
- 20:55Speaker 2: asking why they don't have an ice cream bar.
- 20:56Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing in Orlando.
- 20:58Speaker 4: The temptation is more of that for the tremendous snack
- 21:01Speaker 4: it's all snacks, it's all the Disney stuff, the excitement,
- 21:04Speaker 4: like it's Disney Orlando is like Disneyland.
- 21:07Speaker 2: For kids, Disney World for kids, right, Orlando's Disney World
- 21:10Speaker 2: for well. I guess that's kind of breaking news sounder. Okay,
- 21:14Speaker 2: I guess I said it right. I always say that
- 21:15Speaker 2: that's the metaphor. It is literally the metaphors Disney Worlds
- 21:19Speaker 2: for kids. I said it wrong, but it is. Yeah,
- 21:22Speaker 2: Orlando's Disney World for kids. Like Yogi bands gets laid out,
- 21:25Speaker 2: it gets late early on here.
- 21:26Speaker 3: Oh god, whatever. So it's not Disney for adults.
- 21:32Speaker 4: It's not like necessarily always been the party scene, right,
- 21:35Speaker 4: but it's been like the kids party scene.
- 21:38Speaker 3: Very very true.
- 21:39Speaker 2: Yeah, Butrew, you're right, there's not the South Beach flu
- 21:41Speaker 2: when you are in the central portion of Florida.
- 21:44Speaker 3: It's not as prevalent.
- 21:45Speaker 2: I think there's as much flu for teams playing the
- 21:48Speaker 2: Jags as there would be for the Dolphins.
- 21:50Speaker 3: I'm guessing.
- 21:51Speaker 1: No, you're gonna tell me there's not a whole as
- 21:52Speaker 1: many curfew violations.
- 21:54Speaker 3: Hanging out at Metro Diner and jockson for too long.
- 21:57Speaker 4: Well, you've been to Jacksonville, Billy, A lot of it's
- 22:00Speaker 4: more fun than less some other. Like, I mean, the
- 22:02Speaker 4: nice thing about like Oklahoma City existing in the NBA now,
- 22:06Speaker 4: is we not the butt of the jokes for the
- 22:07Speaker 4: road teams? Like you know, it's like it could be
- 22:10Speaker 4: a lot, you know, I don't think at least I
- 22:12Speaker 4: would assume we're a more exciting place to be in
- 22:14Speaker 4: Oklahoma City. So look at it that way.
- 22:17Speaker 2: This is one of Armand's greatest greatest I think I
- 22:20Speaker 2: think we should.
- 22:20Speaker 1: Probably if we're gonna cape up, if we're gonna take
- 22:22Speaker 1: somebody on and get into the octagon, I'd picked Sacramento
- 22:25Speaker 1: before I picked up up.
- 22:27Speaker 2: There a chance to beat them, Yeah, that'd be the
- 22:30Speaker 2: one I still think we got. I still think we
- 22:32Speaker 2: have Memphis right now, Like I still like there are
- 22:34Speaker 2: certain spots that we can be. But you're right, we
- 22:36Speaker 2: do have to We do have to pick and choose
- 22:38Speaker 2: our spots. Arman has decided Oklahoma City is what the
- 22:42Speaker 2: NFL thought Green Bay was for a long time that
- 22:44Speaker 2: it's NBA Siberia even though they're the best team in
- 22:46Speaker 2: the league, like by far.
- 22:47Speaker 4: Well, they're definitely good on the floor. I mean, we
- 22:50Speaker 4: know that dude city looks like a fun time. Yeah,
- 22:53Speaker 4: and the games are a lot of fun. And I
- 22:55Speaker 4: will admit I've said that, so let's be fair. But
- 22:58Speaker 4: I said the games are so much fun because they're
- 23:00Speaker 4: there's nothing else to do.
- 23:01Speaker 3: And that's the whole well white Oklahoma City. Sorry, it's
- 23:04Speaker 3: just probably the rest. Isn't that what we regard as
- 23:07Speaker 3: the charm of Green Bay? Now you better believe it.
- 23:09Speaker 1: The whole town is all football, round football, all frightball city.
- 23:13Speaker 3: What else do they have? Like good music? I guess
- 23:16Speaker 3: Tulsa is a town with like really good music and stuff.
- 23:18Speaker 4: So old Tulsa's got that big old statue of that
- 23:21Speaker 4: big old guy that's what is he a miner?
- 23:23Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you know what I'm talking about.
- 23:25Speaker 4: This is a huge statue of a dude that's either
- 23:27Speaker 4: mining or Paul Bunyan acting or something like that.
- 23:30Speaker 1: Well, I think I think that's what the price of
- 23:32Speaker 1: admission right there. Absolutely eight seven seven seven seven three.
- 23:37Speaker 1: So one of the things and this is the way
- 23:39Speaker 1: my brain works. You watch Cam Thomas fly his wears
- 23:41Speaker 1: last night and drop in what thirty four thirty four
- 23:44Speaker 1: and twenty five minutes hit the Big Three to ice
- 23:46Speaker 1: it at the end he took over the third quarter.
- 23:49Speaker 1: And I'm watching this guy, I'm like, okay, like maybe
- 23:51Speaker 1: this is like he's gonna He's at twenty four, He's
- 23:54Speaker 1: had the years in Brooklyn, like I said, he's had
- 23:56Speaker 1: his fun and lived that part of it. Now Island
- 23:59Speaker 1: get to Milwaukee, learn from Giannis, however much time he
- 24:03Speaker 1: has with Giannis. Yeah, but learn about being focused, what
- 24:05Speaker 1: it takes to be that champion MVP level player, and
- 24:08Speaker 1: maybe he'll make strides here, maybe he'll become And then
- 24:11Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, well what did we just watch? And
- 24:14Speaker 1: this is the time space continuum that I always talk
- 24:16Speaker 1: about where we just watched the Super Bowl Sunday and
- 24:19Speaker 1: it seems like a month ago. We're onto the Olympics,
- 24:22Speaker 1: We're on the pitchers and catchers, we're.
- 24:23Speaker 3: On all the Kyle Bus finally went in Dayton.
- 24:26Speaker 1: Who in sports is the next Sam Darnold, the guy
- 24:31Speaker 1: who like everybody wrote him off, And then oh, here
- 24:33Speaker 1: he is here, I am announcing my presence with authority
- 24:36Speaker 1: after being written off and seeing ghosts and couldn't win
- 24:39Speaker 1: a primetime game. Now he's at the top of the
- 24:40Speaker 1: mountain saying, how do you like me? Now I'm thinking, okay,
- 24:42Speaker 1: Cam Thomas could be one of those guys like it
- 24:44Speaker 1: didn't work for me in Brooklyn. They wrote me off,
- 24:47Speaker 1: and then here I am taking off becoming a more
- 24:50Speaker 1: complete player than just.
- 24:51Speaker 3: A guy who gets buckets.
- 24:52Speaker 2: And I think basketball in the NBA would probably be
- 24:55Speaker 2: your spot for it, right Like Thomas would be a
- 24:57Speaker 2: thought I think of even more like top top picks
- 25:01Speaker 2: that have kind of been written off for quite some time,
- 25:04Speaker 2: but it drew you. You come into the league for
- 25:07Speaker 2: so long, and for a lot of these guys came
- 25:08Speaker 2: Thomas twenty four years old. He came into the league
- 25:10Speaker 2: when he was what twenty nineteen, twenty years old? Where
- 25:13Speaker 2: now that player development is actually happening in college where
- 25:17Speaker 2: instead right now he's got a tag of well, this
- 25:19Speaker 2: is who he is in the NBA.
- 25:20Speaker 3: He's twenty four years old.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Bucks can corral this guy's twenty four to thirty years
- 25:24Speaker 1: They got something right, absolutely, So athletes peak at twenty
- 25:27Speaker 1: seven generally speaking, but I'm thinking about, like, Okay.
- 25:30Speaker 3: Darnold, is he.
- 25:34Speaker 1: Is at their next spot or moving on like a
- 25:36Speaker 1: mac Jones or a Tua or you know, somebody like
- 25:40Speaker 1: that's given up. Kyler Murray will have a rebirth somewhere
- 25:44Speaker 1: else in another market where they are. Malik Willis is
- 25:47Speaker 1: going to be the guy now, that's going to be
- 25:49Speaker 1: Malik Willis is such a fascinating thing to see what
- 25:51Speaker 1: he does and what the expectations are going to be
- 25:53Speaker 1: wherever he signs, based on how many starts he.
- 25:55Speaker 2: Made six six starts and uh listening starts. In the NFL,
- 25:59Speaker 2: there has never been somebody that has been painted as
- 26:01Speaker 2: a better player. And I'm happy for him, I really am,
- 26:04Speaker 2: because he is an explosive athlete for a team, for
- 26:07Speaker 2: an offense that I think is average twenty points when
- 26:09Speaker 2: he's played right.
- 26:10Speaker 3: That's a good point.
- 26:11Speaker 2: Hasn't been as explosive putting points on the board, as
- 26:15Speaker 2: you know, it's necessarily been felt like and it's just different.
- 26:19Speaker 1: And in the times that we saw him in Green Bay,
- 26:21Speaker 1: it was a hold the fort situation.
- 26:23Speaker 3: It wasn't like we just don't lose it for us.
- 26:25Speaker 1: What the expectations were just kind of hold it together,
- 26:28Speaker 1: and he exceeded those.
- 26:29Speaker 2: By a lot, and no team had enough film on
- 26:31Speaker 2: him to really truly gain bringing him in.
- 26:34Speaker 3: For a contract. That's you know, in the nine to ten.
- 26:38Speaker 4: Figures sing ding ding the money a bit different. We
- 26:42Speaker 4: had to be fair about how we consciously view these things.
- 26:44Speaker 4: We expect different of a backup, and we expect different
- 26:48Speaker 4: of a guy who's not paid, but when he's a
- 26:49Speaker 4: starter and he's paid, the expectations will totally change.
- 26:52Speaker 3: He's not putting them crazy numbers. People might say, well,
- 26:54Speaker 3: what happened?
- 26:55Speaker 1: I thought this was going to made me flash back
- 26:57Speaker 1: to Matt Hasselback who left Green Bay and went to Yeah,
- 27:00Speaker 1: and it was like, okay, expectations and stuff, and did
- 27:03Speaker 1: he meet him?
- 27:04Speaker 4: Did he?
- 27:04Speaker 1: He had a couple of years where he was like
- 27:06Speaker 1: what thirteen and three or they were in the super
- 27:08Speaker 1: Bowl and the super Bowl, and then a couple of
- 27:10Speaker 1: years where it wasn't. But the dude ended up playing
- 27:11Speaker 1: till he was like forty years at time. Yes, and
- 27:13Speaker 1: he started in Seattle and Tennessee. He had a really
- 27:17Speaker 1: good career and but he was kind of that guy
- 27:20Speaker 1: that you know moved on Yeah. Different though, because he
- 27:24Speaker 1: the expectations he he took with him when he went
- 27:27Speaker 1: to Seattle and they handed him the keys, was it
- 27:30Speaker 1: was high. But this is going to be a little
- 27:31Speaker 1: different for like Malika.
- 27:33Speaker 2: It'll be different because he comes in with the contract
- 27:35Speaker 2: and also be different because he's not coming in with
- 27:36Speaker 2: an offense. Right and like Hasseleback went to Seattle. You
- 27:39Speaker 2: guys can correct me on the timing here just before
- 27:41Speaker 2: Holmgren got there or with Holmgren like the same year
- 27:44Speaker 2: that I run, So it was right in the in
- 27:46Speaker 2: the timeline, He's like, all right, I know him, I
- 27:48Speaker 2: know what he can do. Now, maybe that's the cast
- 27:51Speaker 2: the thought if he goes to Miami. However, the actual
- 27:54Speaker 2: coaches that were in Green Bay on the defensive side,
- 27:55Speaker 2: so I don't necessarily know that overlap is as much.
- 27:58Speaker 3: But Drew.
- 27:59Speaker 2: The fascinating part for Willis will be I still think,
- 28:04Speaker 2: even though teams are expecting to sign him to potentially start,
- 28:09Speaker 2: not a whole lot. And maybe even Seattle would admit
- 28:12Speaker 2: this with you know, beers on the table with John Schneider,
- 28:15Speaker 2: who's already moved off of two quarterbacks, one of which
- 28:17Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl.
- 28:18Speaker 3: Went to another one you know, they left.
- 28:21Speaker 2: Themselves a pretty easy out here in the Darnald conversation.
- 28:25Speaker 2: In the Darnald contract, there was a pretty easy out
- 28:28Speaker 2: for them to be able to cut the cord after
- 28:31Speaker 2: this year if it didn't ultimately work. And now he's
- 28:34Speaker 2: got two more years on the three year, one hundred
- 28:36Speaker 2: million dollar dealer with.
- 28:36Speaker 3: Us confidence that they really haven't well.
- 28:40Speaker 2: Yeah, they had enough confidence that they were going to
- 28:42Speaker 2: have him be the starting quarterback this year, but enough
- 28:44Speaker 2: confidence in the fact that we were going to that
- 28:46Speaker 2: we're a good enough team that we can still supplement
- 28:50Speaker 2: with more competition. And for a lot of these organizations,
- 28:54Speaker 2: I think the the fascinating turn and the part of
- 28:57Speaker 2: how you can try and emulate we say copycat. I
- 29:01Speaker 2: don't know that anyone's gonna fully be able to copy
- 29:03Speaker 2: what Seattle did, because nobody's going to get a trade
- 29:05Speaker 2: of three first round picks to be able to play
- 29:08Speaker 2: with like the Broncos gave Seattle. But I think you
- 29:12Speaker 2: might see more teams trying to go and find the
- 29:15Speaker 2: Donald the Baker. I think you hit the name on
- 29:18Speaker 2: the head, the mac Jones guys that Mac Jones won
- 29:21Speaker 2: a national title right like now, I grant get it
- 29:24Speaker 2: that it was at Alabama and it was in the
- 29:26Speaker 2: COVID year, but he did still set records for throw
- 29:29Speaker 2: for passing yards in the SEC. Like he was phenomenal
- 29:33Speaker 2: at Alabama and was still a Pro Bowl inner his
- 29:35Speaker 2: first year went to a playoffs. So like you work
- 29:38Speaker 2: with Kyle Shannan a little bit, you can be a
- 29:40Speaker 2: twenty million dollars starting quarterback and for certain weeks, like
- 29:44Speaker 2: Darnald threw after Week twelve, turned the ball over six
- 29:48Speaker 2: times the rest of the season, played like a top
- 29:50Speaker 2: seven to five quarterback in the league. They didn't need
- 29:53Speaker 2: him to do that for three four years consistently. They
- 29:55Speaker 2: need him to do it for nine weeks to be
- 29:57Speaker 2: able to get home. And I think that might be
- 29:59Speaker 2: the lottery take the teams are trying to find instead
- 30:02Speaker 2: of just let's see if you know Ty Simpson can
- 30:05Speaker 2: change our fortunes in two years in the draft.
- 30:07Speaker 1: It's interesting because these stories are always interesting. The Darnald arc,
- 30:11Speaker 1: It's like it's fascinating, right, you cheer for those guys,
- 30:14Speaker 1: you yeah, And it strikes me that, Okay, so Cam
- 30:19Speaker 1: Thomas comes over and it's like he's hardly washed up.
- 30:23Speaker 1: He's been around for four or five years, but it
- 30:24Speaker 1: seems like he's been around a long time. But you're
- 30:26Speaker 1: right to be twenty four, you can't. But the tendency
- 30:29Speaker 1: is to write people off. And what our sports culture
- 30:32Speaker 1: is today, we've kind of like made it harder or
- 30:37Speaker 1: not that it wasn't always hard, but for the late bloomers, yes, right,
- 30:41Speaker 1: because it's.
- 30:41Speaker 3: Like you if you don't produce right away, It's like.
- 30:43Speaker 1: I remember talking to my nephew at one point, like
- 30:47Speaker 1: between sixth and seventh grade, he got cut from the
- 30:49Speaker 1: basketball team. I'm all right, you're gonna, like, you know,
- 30:50Speaker 1: play rec intermurals and work. And next year he's like, nah,
- 30:53Speaker 1: he basically done. He basically gave up because like now
- 30:57Speaker 1: I'm not on the right like travel teams, and he
- 30:59Speaker 1: was reading the tea leaves.
- 31:00Speaker 3: His logic was not flawed.
- 31:02Speaker 1: But we've wrangled that out where it's like if you
- 31:05Speaker 1: don't make the team right away like that. There used
- 31:07Speaker 1: to be kids who, you know, the famous story about
- 31:09Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's making varsity or whatever, Yeah.
- 31:13Speaker 4: What happened he didn't get that's always made I know,
- 31:17Speaker 4: but but those stories though it's true though, Yeah, but it's.
- 31:21Speaker 3: Almost like that the late bloomers.
- 31:23Speaker 1: There are more late bloomers bloomers in the pros than
- 31:26Speaker 1: there are and in college guys.
- 31:27Speaker 3: Are just trains transferring around.
- 31:30Speaker 1: But it's almost like it's more conducive in the pros
- 31:33Speaker 1: than it is in the U sports.
- 31:34Speaker 3: And that's so warped to me.
- 31:36Speaker 4: It is we top an anvil on a guy's head
- 31:38Speaker 4: and they think it's over. There are how many.
- 31:41Speaker 1: Kids do you know that you grew up with that
- 31:42Speaker 1: between sixth and eighth grade they shot up six inches
- 31:45Speaker 1: and gainst thirty pounds and suddenly they were like whoa.
- 31:47Speaker 1: They went from the last guy picked to the captain
- 31:49Speaker 1: of the team.
- 31:50Speaker 4: And how many of the star quarterbacks in the NFL
- 31:52Speaker 4: always have some sort of story where they weren't like
- 31:54Speaker 4: the top the top recruiter of the top.
- 31:56Speaker 3: Pick or all that you know played linebackers sophomore year.
- 32:00Speaker 1: How about how about Aaron Rodgers like not getting nowhere
- 32:02Speaker 1: except the community college.
- 32:03Speaker 3: Josh Allen had to play. You know, it's like.
- 32:06Speaker 4: Late bloomers lamar scene as a running quarterback. That's how
- 32:10Speaker 4: it usually goes.
- 32:11Speaker 1: We tend we were predisposed to root for those guys,
- 32:14Speaker 1: but we're also like we marginalized them until they Yeah,
- 32:18Speaker 1: because it's the sports culture. Yeah, that's that's our current
- 32:20Speaker 1: sports culture.
- 32:21Speaker 2: And it's too easy to pinpoint somebody who you thought.
- 32:25Speaker 2: First impressions are a hard thing to shake, and especially
- 32:27Speaker 2: when you're a sports fan, can say, well that my
- 32:29Speaker 2: first impression is this guy empty calories. All he'll do
- 32:32Speaker 2: is sports twenty points on twenty shots spreads.
- 32:34Speaker 1: Cooper Flag is like he's going to be a trailblazer
- 32:37Speaker 1: in his own way because look at the list of
- 32:40Speaker 1: the last fifteen years of number one overall picks in
- 32:42Speaker 1: the NBA. It's who's panned out and who's there's more
- 32:45Speaker 1: more busts than there are booms.
- 32:47Speaker 3: I I I'll thought you're going on Nick right on
- 32:50Speaker 3: me there? Oh what was that? Nothing? I didn't know
- 32:52Speaker 3: what you were referring to by the trailblazer.
- 32:56Speaker 4: Never mind, you guys thought, never mind. Uh No, I
- 32:58Speaker 4: do think it's more likely.
- 33:00Speaker 3: Disney World for kids. I don't know, Disney World for kids.
- 33:02Speaker 4: Yeah, it's more like But I do think it's more
- 33:04Speaker 4: likely in the NBA also because if you're looking for
- 33:06Speaker 4: an unexpected champion, the league's a little more wide open,
- 33:09Speaker 4: except for of course, Oklahoma City.
- 33:10Speaker 1: A lot of it is like yeah, expectations and just
- 33:13Speaker 1: like maybe Josh and then where you're drafted, if you're
- 33:15Speaker 1: drafted top, you're expected to come in and be that guy.
- 33:18Speaker 2: Then right away. And if you don't do it right away,
- 33:20Speaker 2: you never will. And a lot of times you won't
- 33:23Speaker 2: necessarily get an opportunity to. But for a team like
- 33:26Speaker 2: the Bucks, they got to take any chance that they
- 33:27Speaker 2: can get. Yeah, to find a redemption story on I
- 33:30Speaker 2: like It.
- 33:30Speaker 1: I Like It eight seven, seven seven nine, one ninety
- 33:34Speaker 1: seven to three gets it to the Nicolay Law dot
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- 33:58Speaker 1: with various insects and the studio.
- 34:00Speaker 3: I haven't seen him.
- 34:01Speaker 4: I haven't seen him for a while after I put
- 34:04Speaker 4: the dukes up and I showed him in that first segment.
- 34:07Speaker 2: I haven't seen him. Mike, who wins the fight between
- 34:10Speaker 2: Armin and the Bug? So far, looks like me. Maybe
- 34:13Speaker 2: not by tk O, but by decision. He ducked the flow,
- 34:16Speaker 2: He ducked the fate on this one. Dollar was worried.
- 34:18Speaker 2: He said, Army, that looks like a queen bee with
- 34:20Speaker 2: the yellow back. You better watch out. You didn't get
- 34:22Speaker 2: a good looked out. Yeah, you didn't get a good look.
- 34:25Speaker 3: Didn't get a good look.
- 34:26Speaker 4: The queen bee is more of a then I like
- 34:29Speaker 4: a stinging bee. They run the factory. They run the
- 34:32Speaker 4: honey factory, don't they They run the honeycomb.
- 34:34Speaker 3: I mean yeah.
- 34:36Speaker 2: But like you think that you're gonna run up on
- 34:38Speaker 2: the queen bee and she's not gonna sting you to oblivion.
- 34:44Speaker 3: That's a good point. I know.
- 34:45Speaker 2: I think she has an arm chefs thinking that, like,
- 34:47Speaker 2: the Queen can't beat you.
- 34:49Speaker 4: I believe the best piece in the game. I believe
- 34:51Speaker 4: in the Queen's power. I just think that she has
- 34:53Speaker 4: she has minions. The Queen has an army to come
- 34:55Speaker 4: get me. I don't think the Queen herself is gonna
- 34:57Speaker 4: be stinging me, you know, I mean.
- 34:59Speaker 2: That be but I think she I think she come
- 35:01Speaker 2: in to take you right to town. Eight seven seven
- 35:05Speaker 2: seven would show I am afraid. Who's the next.
- 35:08Speaker 1: Sam Darnold in any sport where you just get the
- 35:11Speaker 1: redemption arc that we love so much. I love this
- 35:13Speaker 1: one right here? Is it like I'm cheering for cam Thomas?
- 35:17Speaker 1: You know, the Bucks need that that instant offense. If
- 35:21Speaker 1: he's gonna be lou Williams, I'll take it.
- 35:23Speaker 4: No.
- 35:23Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, I love Mike on YouTube.
- 35:25Speaker 4: The ultimately bloomer is gonna be Lucas van Nests and
- 35:26Speaker 4: he has three sacks and next year's Super Bowl boocket boys.
- 35:29Speaker 3: Now we're talking. I love that one. Now we're talking. Mind.
- 35:32Speaker 3: That's a good one right there. He showed some signs
- 35:34Speaker 3: at the end of the year.
- 35:34Speaker 1: Wouldn't you say that's funny because like, well, Rashaun Gary
- 35:37Speaker 1: had that flicker too, and.
- 35:38Speaker 2: Then yeah, and the thing is Van Ness had a
- 35:41Speaker 2: good camp to leading up to the Micah trade and
- 35:45Speaker 2: then obviously the numbers one down, the being healthy was
- 35:48Speaker 2: the biggest part for it.
- 35:49Speaker 1: Now, who are the guys like, who are who are
- 35:52Speaker 1: who's his? Uh t J Watt? Who are the guys
- 35:54Speaker 1: that they should have taken instead of him? M hmm, Well,
- 35:58Speaker 1: Christian Zalez and Jackson Smith and Jacobs. But they're not
- 36:01Speaker 1: in the same position. I think we just saw it
- 36:03Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. But it always happens, right.
- 36:07Speaker 3: Oh for sure?
- 36:08Speaker 2: Now every well, also look, I think you can also
- 36:11Speaker 2: look around and see a lot of teams also passed
- 36:13Speaker 2: on Jackson Smith and Jig because he he went all
- 36:16Speaker 2: the way down to what twenty when he ended up
- 36:18Speaker 2: getting picked. But that deal and right in that little block,
- 36:22Speaker 2: I saw somebody just talking it back and forth. Probably
- 36:25Speaker 2: the cleanest one, Drew would be Will McDonald, Wisconsin, guy
- 36:30Speaker 2: played at Wakashaw North, went to the Jets at fifteen,
- 36:33Speaker 2: the pick that the Packers originally had, and when the
- 36:37Speaker 2: flip happened, there was always that there was that back
- 36:39Speaker 2: and forth and some draft night scuttle butt that the
- 36:43Speaker 2: the trade was potentially pushed through and the Steelers wanted
- 36:48Speaker 2: Broderick Jones. They were happy that they were able to
- 36:50Speaker 2: take the offensive lineman before the Jets did, because the
- 36:52Speaker 2: Jets desperately needed more offensive line help to play in
- 36:56Speaker 2: front of Aaron But I mean, you know, Will's third
- 36:59Speaker 2: year in the league, he had a ten and a
- 37:00Speaker 2: half sack season. He played like fifteen games this year,
- 37:03Speaker 2: had eight sacks. Good player, Maybe not the He's definitely
- 37:06Speaker 2: not the t. J. Watt level where it's different. But
- 37:08Speaker 2: like just before van Ness, maybe the most clowned pick
- 37:11Speaker 2: of that draft might be the best player of the draft.
- 37:14Speaker 2: Number twelve, the Detroit Lions took Jamiir Gibbs.
- 37:16Speaker 4: That's a good point. Everyone's like, how could you take it?
- 37:18Speaker 4: Running back this early twelve guys said that Jamire Gibbs,
- 37:21Speaker 4: this is why the Lions are the Lions. I said, well,
- 37:24Speaker 4: I think I said ye player.
- 37:28Speaker 3: I was wrong. Yeah, he's an awesome, awesome player obviously.
- 37:30Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's the Malik Willis could be, but not really.
- 37:35Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think Malik Willis has as good
- 37:38Speaker 2: chance as Mac Jones.
- 37:39Speaker 3: He's not as but he's not as damaged either though.
- 37:42Speaker 1: Yes, that's the Thing's like he got drafted then you know,
- 37:44Speaker 1: will Levis whatever you like.
- 37:47Speaker 4: When Mitch Trubisky got a shot to start again, it
- 37:49Speaker 4: was to me, it's like one, well, yeah, and justin Field,
- 37:52Speaker 4: so it's like he'll have another shot at this thing and.
- 37:54Speaker 3: Has had their chances.
- 37:56Speaker 2: Justin Fields just might be able to figure it out
- 37:58Speaker 2: this year because he did take that pro week off, right,
- 38:01Speaker 2: Remember they asked him to come to the Pro Bowl.
- 38:02Speaker 3: He said, I got to train for a next opportunity.
- 38:04Speaker 1: I got a train next opportunity, and then Tua and
- 38:06Speaker 1: Kyler Murray wherever their.
- 38:08Speaker 3: Next stops may be, you know or you know.
- 38:10Speaker 2: So the Tua one is interesting because I think he's
- 38:13Speaker 2: clearly done in Miami, right, Like clearly done in Miami.
- 38:16Speaker 2: I don't know that he necessarily works in a whole
- 38:18Speaker 2: lot of spots. I love mac Jones because I think
- 38:20Speaker 2: he's still really really talented. The the other part of
- 38:23Speaker 2: it drew in like that it's all about the prisms
- 38:27Speaker 2: that we look through it in I guess I'm always
- 38:28Speaker 2: just trying to force my guy, Trevor Lawrence into the conversation.
- 38:31Speaker 3: But he was number one overall pick.
- 38:33Speaker 2: And even though he's now got two years in the
- 38:37Speaker 2: NFL in which he was top seven and MVP balloting,
- 38:39Speaker 2: people were still going into last year saying, this.
- 38:41Speaker 3: Guy's war masks, he's terrible.
- 38:43Speaker 2: How hurt that they given him fifty million dollars And
- 38:46Speaker 2: he's the franchise quarterback who you're firing coaches and trying
- 38:48Speaker 2: to bring in more offensive coaches.
- 38:50Speaker 1: For the thing is he can look like the best
- 38:53Speaker 1: quarterback ever and then mister irrelevant all in the same game.
- 38:56Speaker 3: In the same game, Yes, in the same game, in
- 38:59Speaker 3: the same series.
- 39:00Speaker 1: Like, oh, that was amazing that many guys can make
- 39:02Speaker 1: a play like that, Like what the hell was he thinking?
- 39:04Speaker 3: Who would make a play like frustrating dude to watch man.
- 39:07Speaker 2: And a little bit of Sam Donald in there as well, right,
- 39:10Speaker 2: like a little bit of how on earth are you
- 39:11Speaker 2: throwing the ball into that window? But if you can
- 39:14Speaker 2: clear that up for six to eight games and he
- 39:16Speaker 2: didn't turn the ball over in the playoffs, I'm not
- 39:18Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken.
- 39:20Speaker 3: That's the most important one.
- 39:21Speaker 2: Like he handled the pressure on Sunday, going back and
- 39:24Speaker 2: watching it, Why did I do that?
- 39:26Speaker 3: I don't know? Like why on earth did I pay
- 39:28Speaker 3: myself to watch them of that game? Again?
- 39:30Speaker 4: Blows my mind because you like the test your own
- 39:33Speaker 4: limits of your sanity. That's probably true, Hush sick, I
- 39:36Speaker 4: actually am exactly, But damn he handled the pressure and
- 39:40Speaker 4: moved around the pocket drew way better than May did.
- 39:43Speaker 4: Where there's free both of those guys have free rushers
- 39:45Speaker 4: right in their face, and Darnald, not known for his athleticism,
- 39:48Speaker 4: moves around. And now people be like Sam donald sneaky
- 39:51Speaker 4: athlete in the pocket.
- 39:53Speaker 3: It's all.
- 39:53Speaker 2: It's funny, but the different ways that you see him
- 39:55Speaker 2: in one or two games will totally change a prism. Again,
- 39:58Speaker 2: I guess I'm going way to big game hunting and
- 40:01Speaker 2: big player hunting here, and I'm just thinking of how
- 40:04Speaker 2: we look at somebody in the postseason and does Aaron
- 40:07Speaker 2: Judge get a an absolute.
- 40:11Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean dog in the postseason.
- 40:13Speaker 2: Thought he wins one World Series and he'll be an
- 40:16Speaker 2: all time all time.
- 40:17Speaker 4: About Judge, the Judge is interesting because I think everyone
- 40:20Speaker 4: recognizes his greatness. But in Yankee Land, yeah you're Judge
- 40:23Speaker 4: on are you hitting home runs?
- 40:24Speaker 3: It's one of the first right handed hitters of this generations.
- 40:26Speaker 1: There was a time that you know, Bonds went through
- 40:29Speaker 1: that steroids aside where he wasn't in His playoff record
- 40:32Speaker 1: wasn't great.
- 40:32Speaker 3: The Pirates and stuff like that wasn't great.
- 40:34Speaker 1: And then he finally got the opportunity and with the Giants,
- 40:37Speaker 1: and yeah, you know, hard to measure.
- 40:40Speaker 3: Really, it really is, because and you're right.
- 40:42Speaker 1: Like Judge doesn't need validate, Like, okay, Mike Trout unbelievable
- 40:46Speaker 1: one Hall of Fame first ballot career with no playoff success.
- 40:50Speaker 2: Yeah, with what three games played in the playoffs no
- 40:53Speaker 2: playoff success. It's wild and now again it definitely plays
- 40:57Speaker 2: to where you play the games. But it's a tough one.
- 40:59Speaker 2: How one on the way out Anthony Richardson, that's a
- 41:03Speaker 2: good one. Talking about it from the Lucas van S
- 41:05Speaker 2: twenty twenty three draft. Anthony Richardson got beat up by
- 41:09Speaker 2: a weight band this year. Remember he broke his eyebone,
- 41:13Speaker 2: his he popular bone. Yeah, he had a fracture in
- 41:16Speaker 2: his face from a resistance band. That's a tough thing
- 41:20Speaker 2: to come back from. That is a tough thing to
- 41:22Speaker 2: come back from.
- 41:23Speaker 3: We'll see if he can do it.
- 41:24Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a redemption story. So getting beat up on
- 41:27Speaker 2: a little resistance band.
- 41:28Speaker 1: Oh Man, Cam Thomas sparking discussion today, how about this one?
- 41:32Speaker 1: And that's you know, what more can you ask for?
- 41:34Speaker 1: In mid February, we got a couple of good text
- 41:36Speaker 1: here to get to as well.
- 41:37Speaker 3: Eight seven seven seven nine four ninety seven three.
- 41:39Speaker 1: Let's have some fun together on this Thursday and the
- 41:41Speaker 1: good Land Dolph will be here at six thirty.
- 41:43Speaker 3: It's the Huddle on Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin.