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The biggest takeaways for each team advancing in October · District Territory

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to district territory. It's Kevin Franzen, Eric Shellhausen,
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  Speaker 1: Spencer Nussbaum, Franny, Shelly, Spencey, as we've already figured it out.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's our nicknames. We're running with it. That's
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  Speaker 1: the track. Spencer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do not want to, but I think I'm
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  Speaker 2: contractually obligated and there's no way of talking myself out
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  Speaker 2: of it. So here we are.
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  Speaker 1: That's good. We'll keep you quiet on that one. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: We want to do something a little switched up a
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  Speaker 1: little bit today. Like we want to kind of go
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  Speaker 1: over what we have seen now here in the division playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Cause I think most of all the ALDS and NLDS
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  Speaker 1: have been just fantastic baseball games. One kind of got
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  Speaker 1: away yesterday for the first time in any of the
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland guardians and the Chicago white socks for the white socks,
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  Speaker 1: trying to close it out for the at home for
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  Speaker 1: the first time since 1906. What happened in 1906? Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Some scandal stuff. I don't know. We got the Pope
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  Speaker 1: on the side of the White Sox and everything, but
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  Speaker 1: three teams closed it out yesterday. Two of them, I
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  Speaker 1: would say, you knew it was going to happen. And
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  Speaker 1: then I think the last one was the last one
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  Speaker 1: of the night with the Padres and the Milwaukee Brewers.
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  Speaker 1: You just didn't know. You just didn't know based on
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  Speaker 1: the fact that it was San Diego at Petco Park.
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  Speaker 1: That place was rocking. But the best team in the
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  Speaker 1: national league came out on top yet again. So Eric,
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  Speaker 1: you get the first choice door one, door two, door three,
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  Speaker 1: or door four. Let's go door two. What the heck?
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  Speaker 1: All right. If you want to go door two, then that,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that fits right into the nationals and, and
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  Speaker 1: where it was. That's the Atlanta Braves, the Atlanta Braves yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: losing four to one to Los Angeles Dodgers. Yeah. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to burn. Uh, but part of the
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  Speaker 1: deal is, uh, You looked at a good series. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was a fantastic series. You looked at the way
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  Speaker 1: that the Atlanta Braves flipped the script on the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: after taking game two, which was a punt that they
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  Speaker 1: kind of had to do. They showed what it meant
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  Speaker 1: that they had to go after that wild card series
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  Speaker 1: against the Phillies. They had to do it. They went
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  Speaker 1: with Chris Sale. They weren't able to use him early
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  Speaker 1: in that postseason game. They go game three. They lose that.
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  Speaker 1: They go yesterday. Glass now. And Tyler Malley, and he
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  Speaker 1: was really good. Malley was good. But Tyler Glass now
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  Speaker 1: in his five walks, five strikeouts, overcame. It's a great
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  Speaker 1: defensive place. Some stuff that happened throughout the game that
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  Speaker 1: you're going, I didn't see that from Mauricio Dubon. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Dropping a pop-up. Coming out. So, when you go door
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  Speaker 1: number two and you ask for the Atlanta Braves-Dodgers, where
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  Speaker 1: do you want to go with? I think I want
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  Speaker 1: to go to the lack of hitting with runners in
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  Speaker 1: scoring position in that series. All of the offense seeming
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  Speaker 1: to come via the home run. Of course, last night,
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  Speaker 1: Andy Pahez finally delivered on that clutch hit and gave
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  Speaker 1: them the lead, and they never looked back. But all
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  Speaker 1: of the offense just coming from a power standpoint, I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if the pitching is going to be enough to
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  Speaker 1: carry them or if they're going to have to start
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  Speaker 1: hitting with runners on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's funny, right? Because I think my brain
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  Speaker 2: is so... for lack of a better phrase, like regular
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  Speaker 2: season pilled or process pilled where like, I look at
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  Speaker 2: all this stuff that Matt like doesn't matter as much
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  Speaker 2: in the regular season, whether it's like small sample runners
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  Speaker 2: in scoring position or pitching chaos, your way to things
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  Speaker 2: and things of that nature where it can swing a season,
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  Speaker 2: but it's, you know, it's usually things even out. And
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  Speaker 2: in the post season, when you guys have guys like
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  Speaker 2: Acuna not stepping up, you can't look at it as
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  Speaker 2: small sample. You look at it as, Hey, that was
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  Speaker 2: a impactful thing that just happened. Runners in scoring position,
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  Speaker 2: it's the same way. So I have trouble wrapping my
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  Speaker 2: brain around some of this. But the fact of the
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  Speaker 2: matter is those like kind of non-analytical, more like gut
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  Speaker 2: feel sort of things do matter in October. And for Atlanta,
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  Speaker 2: they just didn't show up the way they needed to.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And then you look at the clean baseball deal
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  Speaker 1: is such a big deal. And it really is throughout
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  Speaker 1: the postseason.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Um, you have still ball fights. That's going to happen
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  Speaker 1: in a game in a regular season. We know that,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, costly errors like the Mauricio Dubon one.
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  Speaker 1: Cause I don't think it, I don't think it is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Cooper Pratt made it, made an error in the, uh,
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  Speaker 1: in the game against the Padres and it wasn't devastating. Right.
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  Speaker 1: He had a guy pick them up in that situation,
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  Speaker 1: but a pop-up with a runner at third with fewer
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  Speaker 1: than two and you drop it. Yeah. That there's a
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  Speaker 1: big shift. In that momentum and everything that's going on.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a 1-0 ball game and then it's 1-1.
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  Speaker 1: And it could have been easily 1-0 in that series.
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  Speaker 1: It felt like it was so far. Like a huge distance.
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  Speaker 1: It took everything. It took a big mistake for the
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers to score that. So then you get De'Ron in
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  Speaker 1: the game. They score two more. One in the ninth.
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  Speaker 1: It is the epitome of postseason baseball. The team that
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  Speaker 1: takes advantage of the mistake is usually the winner. And
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  Speaker 1: you look at this. Man, the way that Dodgers have
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  Speaker 1: it with Vecchia, Enrique is the way that he has
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  Speaker 1: shown up. Enrique has the last, I want to say,
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  Speaker 1: including the postseason, the last 20 games for him, he
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  Speaker 1: has a 1.93. It was not that early on in
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  Speaker 1: the year. He was trying to find the strike zone.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's found the strike zone. He is dominating. And
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  Speaker 1: then you get Tanner Scott to get to Edwin Diaz.
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  Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz. Wheezy back. Yeah. All of a sudden, he
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  Speaker 1: is on fire. Yeah. All right.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny, too, because like how these teams build their bullpens.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So many of them look at the Rays, Brewers, Guardian.
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  Speaker 2: It's all guys. I'm going to use a phrase that's disrespectful,
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  Speaker 2: like off the scrap heap. But it's guys who've been
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  Speaker 2: disregarded or like savvy pickups from other clubs. You looked
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  Speaker 2: at the Dodgers. They have some of those guys, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in Hernandez, in Vessia to an extent. But then they're
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  Speaker 2: also just able to backload with some of these massive,
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  Speaker 2: massive free agents like Scott Diaz. let them figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: And when they have it in October, man, they really
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  Speaker 2: have it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they do. And they move on and they're, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, let's, let's just play it, play it out
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  Speaker 1: how it is, right? Like, so they move on and
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  Speaker 1: they're going to take on the Milwaukee Brewers because the
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  Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers, they swept. They did not sweep. No, they
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  Speaker 1: went three and one. They went three and one. Almost.
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  Speaker 1: It just felt like a sweep. It just felt like
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  Speaker 1: a sweep in the whole thing, but they went yesterday
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  Speaker 1: three to one against the San Diego Padres. They do it.
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  Speaker 1: you have to have a little luck in the, in
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  Speaker 1: the post season a little bit. Uh, Adrian more home
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  Speaker 1: being down for the San Diego Padres two days in
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  Speaker 1: a row. It didn't affect him game in game three.
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  Speaker 1: It affected him yesterday in absolutely 100%. You could not
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  Speaker 1: launch him when, when you wanted, uh, it is unfortunate,
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  Speaker 1: but it's part of the deal, right? Garrett Mitchell two
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  Speaker 1: for four yesterday, a triple, uh, an RBI, a game
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  Speaker 1: saving catch, uh, In center field, would it have been
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  Speaker 1: a home run in 19 parks? Yes, it would have been.
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  Speaker 1: But you look at a team that, in my mind,
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  Speaker 1: two for 12 with runners in scoring position yesterday, that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't say the whole thing. They get guys in from third,
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  Speaker 1: runners at third, fewer than two. 230 was their number
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  Speaker 1: this year. Guys that they scored from third. Less than two.
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  Speaker 1: And guess how many the next closest was? 200?
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  Speaker 2: 189.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh. Yeah, that's a big gap. Yeah. So, you see
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  Speaker 1: a team that does this, and to me, Robert Gasser
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  Speaker 1: was great before he hits three hits, but what do
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  Speaker 1: you take out of this series, Eric, when you look
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  Speaker 1: at this between the Padres and Brewers?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Brewers pitching has just been incredible, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that needs to continue to carry them throughout the postseason,
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  Speaker 3: but it was good to see Christian Yelich break that
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  Speaker 3: stretch of at-bats in the postseason without an RBI. He
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  Speaker 3: finally got off of the schneid. Yeah, I think the
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  Speaker 3: timely hitting is what it's going to come down to
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  Speaker 3: with the Brewers as well as their pitching. Mizorowski has
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  Speaker 3: been an absolute beast. He didn't look incredible in his
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  Speaker 3: first outing, or I guess not as unhittable as he
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  Speaker 3: has been over the course of the season. But if
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  Speaker 3: you see him bounce back in the NLCS, I think
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  Speaker 3: that could help the Brewers punch their ticket through to
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  Speaker 3: the next round.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we all think so much about
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  Speaker 2: what plays in October, right? And the Brewers finally have
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  Speaker 2: that mix of they have some guys that, you know, Churio,
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  Speaker 2: you figure Mizorowski is going to figure it out. You know,
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  Speaker 2: get a little further down the list of guys like Terang,
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  Speaker 2: really basically anyone in that bullpen, Uribe, McGill. I still
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  Speaker 2: kind of buck the notion a little bit that depth
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter in October. I think you absolutely need those
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  Speaker 2: guys because your one A's, even if they feel like
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  Speaker 2: set it and forget it, aren't always going to show
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  Speaker 2: up and you need guys who can fill in on
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  Speaker 2: the back end. But it just feels like the Brewers
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  Speaker 2: have that right mix of, hey, they finally have, you know,
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  Speaker 2: set it and forget it ace. They have a set
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  Speaker 2: it and forget it star in the lineup and they
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  Speaker 2: have guys behind them that can figure it out. So
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  Speaker 2: without like revealing, oh, I think the Brewers are going
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  Speaker 2: at all because I still don't know for sure. It
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  Speaker 2: does finally feel like the right mix for them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah trevor mcgill ridiculous he's a he's a superstar man
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  Speaker 1: and that's the thing is that we forget about it
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  Speaker 1: way too often william contraris has taken some incredible at
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  Speaker 1: bats the defense that they play really is fantastic and
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  Speaker 1: they have i think the part that sets them as
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  Speaker 1: apart from everybody else is that they have short stops
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  Speaker 1: multiple short stops they can play defensively. It's not just
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  Speaker 1: about the one in Cooper Pratt. But Joey Ortiz, he
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  Speaker 1: can fill in over there. You look at David Hamilton,
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  Speaker 1: he can do his thing over there. I just look
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  Speaker 1: at up the middle, how strong they are with multiple guys.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just a set center fielder every time. You
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  Speaker 1: can see how they play it. Lara being on the bench,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they got speed on the bench. They got
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  Speaker 1: a defensive wizard with him, too. There is so much
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  Speaker 1: to like about how they go about things. They take
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  Speaker 1: care of all the little things. And something that stood
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  Speaker 1: out last night, so Churio gets a big knock, right,
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  Speaker 1: like to drive in the run. Yelich comes up. He
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  Speaker 1: steals second. Yelich hits a 107 bullet to right, low liner.
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  Speaker 1: And Churio stopped. froze and then continued on and then
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  Speaker 1: stayed there at second base. There is, there is an
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  Speaker 1: instance where we saw on the camera from showing knowledge
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  Speaker 1: and he's just looking like, damn it, like disappointed because
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  Speaker 1: he wanted him at third so bad. He knew how
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  Speaker 1: important like getting to third was in that situation. Is
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  Speaker 1: that a, is that a mental lapse? No, that's just,
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  Speaker 1: that's your read, right? That was his read. When you're
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  Speaker 1: going off on a steal and, and, or hit run
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  Speaker 1: in a situation like that and you see it, you
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  Speaker 1: just got to keep going. Cause there's no way like
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  Speaker 1: Tati's going to throw you out first. You just keep going.
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  Speaker 1: And those are the, those are the little things like
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  Speaker 1: seeing the yellow facial expressions on that. Let me know
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  Speaker 1: everything I needed to know about where they were. Right.
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  Speaker 1: As far as where the brewers are, they're still playing
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  Speaker 1: that game. Like they're still understanding like, Hey, we still
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  Speaker 1: got some more meat on the bone right there. We
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  Speaker 1: got to, we got to take that. So watch that
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  Speaker 1: as we go forward. Cause them against the Dodgers, it
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  Speaker 1: is going to be about taking those extra base extra bases.
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  Speaker 1: Cause there's not going to be a lot of extra
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  Speaker 1: base hits. It's not going to be this, it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be about at what moment are you going to
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  Speaker 1: take advantage of my right fielder or left fielder taking
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  Speaker 1: a couple of steps to their left, to their right.
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  Speaker 1: They're not going straight on, not going to challenge Pius.
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  Speaker 1: We already know that. But there, there's a lot to
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  Speaker 1: be said when it comes to the base running part
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that's part of what's fascinating too, is like
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  Speaker 2: the Dodgers are kind of on both sides of the
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  Speaker 2: spectrum where like on one end, They're a veteran team.
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  Speaker 2: They've done this before. They will know the right base
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  Speaker 2: to throw to. They will have all these other things.
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  Speaker 2: On the other side of it, they're an older team.
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  Speaker 2: They don't run as fast. They don't throw as hard.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they have superstars, so to speak. But you
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  Speaker 2: just feel like there are edges to be gained, edges
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  Speaker 2: that often play out in the regular season and edges
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  Speaker 2: that matter even more in the postseason. And so, like,
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  Speaker 2: is it going to be Jake Bowers going from first
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  Speaker 2: to third? Is it going to be, again, like, Terang,
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  Speaker 2: you know, being able to take advantage of Teoscar, he's
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  Speaker 2: a step slow in the outfield. Like all these sorts
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  Speaker 2: of things add up. And so, yeah, it'll be really fun.
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  Speaker 2: And frankly, like this is exactly the sort of series
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  Speaker 2: that needs to go seven games, or at least I'm
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  Speaker 2: glad is a best of seven. Because you look at it, if,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they would never match up in the wild card,
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  Speaker 2: but if they did, this shouldn't be a best of
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  Speaker 2: three series. And so I think it's going to go
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  Speaker 2: hopefully the distance. And if it doesn't, whatever team wins,
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  Speaker 2: it probably will have earned it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so let's move on. to the next, which
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  Speaker 1: is the American league, the Tampa Bay rays. They swept
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  Speaker 1: the New York Yankees twice in the last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: They have, uh, celebrated on the Yankee stadium field. It
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  Speaker 1: was a tremendous effort when you look at it from
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  Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay rays for three victors, but it was, I, you,
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  Speaker 1: you don't even want to say like the, uh, You know,
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  Speaker 1: the back-end guys of this. It's their guys. It's the
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  Speaker 1: Rays guys. It's everybody that contributes. Victor Mesa Jr. hits
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  Speaker 1: a massive homer. Nick Martinez pitches great for three and two-thirds.
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  Speaker 1: They go to Ian Seymour, who I still don't think
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  Speaker 1: he's ever looked at a catcher's bet ever in his life.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing what he throws. But you look at what
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  Speaker 1: they're able to do. Ryan Vallade understands who he is.
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  Speaker 1: I got to match lefties. He does. He homered last
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  Speaker 1: night against Max Freed. It was a team that decided,
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  Speaker 1: you know, why don't we just play like we always play, guys,
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  Speaker 1: and not worry about what time of the year it is.
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  Speaker 1: And it's the Tampa Bay Rays. They continue to play
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  Speaker 1: how they do. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They look like a really cohesive unit and a team
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  Speaker 3: where every single player matters so much. And as you
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  Speaker 3: just mentioned, I feel like every single night it's a
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  Speaker 3: new hero stepping up for them. Victor Mesa last night
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  Speaker 3: had the clutch home run. they have so many different
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  Speaker 3: pieces that fit into the puzzle there. And man, they
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  Speaker 3: look hot right now after sweeping.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And like to bring it, I guess, back to the nationals,
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  Speaker 2: just a hair, right? Like, you know, a, the manager
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  Speaker 2: came over from the raise sugar, but like, it's a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of guys who were claimed off waivers who were,
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  Speaker 2: you know, found internationally who were found on the margins.
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  Speaker 2: They have like, I think four free agents. And out
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  Speaker 2: of those four, there's like one who was a, you know,
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  Speaker 2: real big leaguer with bona fides, bona fides, so to speak.
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  Speaker 2: Beyond that, it's like Cam Boozer, who was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a free agent. And, you know, you can read his
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  Speaker 2: story is fascinating. It's a bunch of guys who'd like
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  Speaker 2: have these really winding paths. And again, if we get
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  Speaker 2: like wrapped up in the narrative, because I think that's
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  Speaker 2: what this time of year is all about. These are
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  Speaker 2: the sorts of guys where you figure they're not going
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  Speaker 2: to figure it out in October. You figure out the
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  Speaker 2: moment might be too much for them. Um, when in
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  Speaker 2: fact it's often the opposite, right? They've persevered, they've been
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  Speaker 2: through stuff before. And so when they get to the
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: time of the year where the weather gets cold, it's, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like we we've been through something before we
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  Speaker 2: can get through this too. Um, and I think that's
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  Speaker 2: really fun to see, uh, at least from an outsider's perspective.
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  Speaker 1: Well, one of the things that stands out obviously is, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the guy that closed off the games of Brian Baker, uh,
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  Speaker 1: three for three, another inning yesterday, a couple of things.
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  Speaker 1: about him. Number one is change up is sick, right?
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  Speaker 1: It just looks like it floats. It has, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say the similarities cause they're, they're so different,
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  Speaker 1: obviously handed right-handed, um, very diminutive versus very tall, but
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  Speaker 1: will Dion's change up how it just comes out of
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  Speaker 1: his hand. It just looks like it stops. It floats.
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  Speaker 1: It's right, right like that, right? Like what he has,
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  Speaker 1: his ability to pitch in zone with it. He's not
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: trying to chase. He's trying to strike you out with
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: it in zone, right? The swing and miss is real.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I thought very interesting how we saw the Tampa Bay
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Rays kind of show. I don't want to say they
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: showed their hand, but man, they didn't use a lot
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: of their pitchers in this series. You know what I mean?
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Like it's pretty interesting. And they could have. Garrett Clevenger, right? Nothing.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: You're like, really? Why not? Kelly had what? A third
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: of an inning. I think that was his. Boozer. he
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: saw what two games in that whole thing, but Sulser
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: didn't pitch. Matt's didn't pitch. We saw Matt Steven.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's, it's, it's crazy to think Wells, right.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah. And to me, that's just like, I
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: feel like that's toying with people. Yeah.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Like, no, I'm just saying like, they're just like, Oh,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Hey guys, Yeah, we just like these guys. We're going
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: to just use them. No, no, no, no. Like Griffith
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Jacks finally got a game in yesterday, even though he's
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: built for being a reliever. He's done it for so
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: long in Minnesota before he came over, and they switched
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: that role. So, I mean, it's the best team in
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the American League all year. The Milwaukee Brewers' best team
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: in the National League all year. And they move on.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: And they move on doing it their way more than anything.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like the Dodgers moved on. They didn't do
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: it their way. that they normally feel like do. Yeah.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: In what sense? They're not slugging homers. They're not.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, I think, I mean, the only, the only
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: time I felt like they, they played their game truly
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: was the game against sale. Right. Yeah. Cause they just,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: they just fought. They just did everything. You could see
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: the clear purpose they had at the plate.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Like lay off everything in as much as possible. Two strikes,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: that's when they finally kind of expanded a little bit.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: But they wore them down. They did not give in.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: They were relentless. That's the daughter team that we're used to.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: And I don't think we saw that completely all the
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: way through every game in that, but that's fine. I mean,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: the whole goal for them is to continue to win, right,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and move on. And they did just that. Sure.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: But I guess is it a good sign? for the
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Dodgers that they could win without playing their brand of baseball?
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Or is it a bad sign that they're maybe not?
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Okay. I mean, it's, it's, I just, I guess, I
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: guess my point is yes, you are correct. Like it's, it's,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: it's perfect on that one. I'm just saying like the
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: moment wasn't too big for the Rays and Brewers. Like
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: we always think like, Oh man, sure. No, they just
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: played their way. They just, they did things exactly how
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: they wanted to. They controlled the pace of the games and,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Because that's who they are. Like the Brewers, they don't
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: mind going down. Like they did that more than anybody
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: in baseball and decided, you know, all right, we can
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: play from behind. We're fine. We don't need to panic.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Because why? Because every at-bat we've worked on and done
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: throughout the year has been the same. So.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Does that change in a later round? Just real quick.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Does that change?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I think it does. I think it does. I think
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: it does. Based on pressure. Based on an expectation. Based
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: on a want. Nothing about ability or anything.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: The deeper you get, the more eyeballs across baseball will
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: be on you. Right.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And, and moments become like atmospheres. They become, they take,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: they take a whole life of themselves. Right. So you
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: could see the rays in the, in the way that
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: they respond. Like they didn't let like the moment I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: felt like the Yankees tried to come back, they responded,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: you know, at Yankee stadium. And I feel like that
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: is a huge part of it. Sure. Yeah. I don't know.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: It's just, it's something I'll be wrestling for the rest
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: of the post season.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I hear you.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: It'll be cool. It'll be cool. All right, how about tonight,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I should say, with the White Sox and Cleveland Guardians
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: divisional matchup that's going for the division series. The Guardians
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: are down two games to one to the White Sox
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: with Parker Messick, the stud lefty, on the mound today
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: for the Guardians going up against Hagan Smith and the chaos,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: pitchy chaos that the White Sox are doing. Number one,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I will say this wholeheartedly, Watching Foster Griffin yesterday go
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: two and two-thirds, it was awesome. Punched out seven. Did
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: that earlier in the year in Chicago. Looked fantastic. It
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: was a moment that you love. Again, was it dominant? Sure,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: for two and two-thirds. Got him through his pocket, got
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: him through what he needed to do, and then moved on.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Good to see Foster Griffin do his thing.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a Cleveland postseason strikeout record in relief, too. is
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: what they said on the broadcast yesterday.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Can we just dispel this whole thing? The amount of
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: pitchers that are used in these things. Good God. Like
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: watching Yamamoto pitch was like just, I love watching it. Right?
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I think that's the part of baseball that I miss
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: is the true dominant pitcher that goes out and you
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: jump on his back. The pitching chaos thing, they're doing
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it because they have to. They have to. They don't
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: have the starters. I get that whole thing. It's tough
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: to watch at times, man. Yeah.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Out of necessity, as you just mentioned, they don't really
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: have any starters, but the in-inning pitching changes really take
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: a toll on the pace of play here in the playoffs.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: They do. I pick the Guardians to win it all
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: in part because I think the postseason is chaotic and
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: hard to predict, and that's a fun... outside team to
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: go with, but in part because I thought they had
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: those two horses up front in addition to a deep bullpen.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know that it's all going to play out.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: The offense outside of that last game still is not
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: hitting very well, and that's hard to keep up over
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: multiple rounds. But I just look at, you know, you
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: can look at Foster Griffin pitching two and two thirds
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: as a downside, and I honestly probably agree with you.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I also think the fact that you're confident enough in
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: your operations that you're willing to throw a guy who
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: had a you know, sub three era for most of
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: the year and put them in those spots and then
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: fill out the backend behind him. To me, that's like
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: a compelling angle, but I'm also on the side of
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Franny where like, I would much rather see a guy
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: go eight sharp innings in October. That's more fun to watch.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: That's more fun. Right. It doesn't mean it's, it's the
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: most prudent, right? In the whole thing. Yeah.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: If your name isn't Yamamoto, it's, it's a little.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Hard to do, but it's, it stands out so much.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Like we think about the all time greats. We think
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: about like the Strauss's of the world, the Scherzer's of
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the world and what they like Jordan Zimmerman, what he
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: did in the post season as well. You think about
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: those moments and you think, why, why do those stand out? It's,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: it's because in that, like the pressure situations, you look
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: at these guys where, where the whole spotlight, the focus,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: it isn't on all nine. It's on that one, right?
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: It's on that picture. And I think that stands out
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: more than anything. So I look, Seeing Foster go two,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: two thirds. Fantastic. I still question this. Why the hell
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: did Kate Smith in a nine, three game pitch two innings?
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I think theoretically it's because you have the day off tomorrow.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: But two and two thirds is a long, long run,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: especially when you have other guys back there, you.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Know, where the score was at. Kate Smith punched out five. look,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: he's efficient as hell. Like in that whole thing, you're going, okay,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: he threw 19 pitches, 17 strikes. Awesome. That's a lot, man.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: That's still like, if you give him an inning, I'm in. Yeah.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: But it's the same thing as Weiss and sale, right? Like,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: you know, it's great to close out a game that
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: you need to be closed out. But at what point
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: are you really kind of, you know, pushing your luck
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: a little bit. And I think this is probably a
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: case of that, but vote is a two-time manager of
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: the year. So, you know, What do I know?
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Who's been out managed by Will Venable in this year?
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Sure. Potential manager of the year this year.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Which is, which is cool, which is cool. Um,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: before we get going on this one, who do you
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: got tonight? And then who do you got going into
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the world series prediction part?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Uh, I have picked Cleveland to win it all. Um,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: and so even though I don't believe it anymore, I
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: will ride with it. Um, I, again, just think it's
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: really easy to fall back on the depth of pitching
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: they have. That is where my mind always goes. Obviously,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: the Rays can match that. So, you know, be it
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: how they may. And I will say that the Brewers
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: will beat the Dodgers in the NLCS. But again, it's
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: hard to have conviction in any of these picks, knowing
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: how strong these final five teams are. Yeah.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I still have my World Series matchup up in the air.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I had the Brewers and the Rays facing off, and
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: I'm sticking with that right now. But I do think
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: the White Sox are going to advance and get the
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: job done later tonight. I'm not sure how, but I
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: think those fans are ready to see their team clinch
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: at home.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Tampa and the White Sox is going
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: to be the matchup in the American League, and Tampa's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: going to take that. And to me, whoever wins game
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: one between the Brewers and dodgers wins it wins that
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: part because i i liken this always to uh the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: niners and cowboys back in the early 90s before you
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: guys were born uh whoever won those those nsc championship
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: games they were clearly going to win the super bowl
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and so whoever wins in that national league they're winning
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: it and i say it because if if the brewers
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: somehow lose with a mesurowski start at home against a
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: team that they got their absolute doors blown off by
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: last year because the pitching was just ridiculously awesome. I
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: just don't see... I can't see them recovering. They need
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: game one more than I feel like any team's ever
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: wanted game one in a seven-game series.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nice cop-out, Franny. Who are you picking? I'm going
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: to go Burrs.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go Burrs. I.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: To win that first game.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I love Murph. I love the way that they play.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I love their pitching. And the other part, too, I
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: love how tough they are, man. There's a toughness to
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the Dodger team that we get because they're superstars, but
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: they grind. They do a lot of things. The Brewers
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: do the same thing. They don't care what you think
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of them. They're going to go out and do it
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: their way and play hard. And if a mistake happens,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it's not woe is me. It's pick me up. Here
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: we go.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: On to the next guy.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: On to the next guy. On to the next show.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: When we get back on district territory, there's going to
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: be a lot more answers to what's been going on
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: here in the postseason for Shelly, Spencey, and Franny. Peace.