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Greg vs. Will vs. the World (2.278.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_02]: You are listening to Greg vs. Will vs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The World.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Central Indiana Sports reports new, prediction and debate podcast with me, your host, Greg Mingele, and Will Rutherford.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are still in the beta testing stage here, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: The idea is we make predictions on what is going to happen in the future in the sports world and get points for our predictions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This week we'll be talking NBA and Stanley Cup Finals, a couple of major NFL trades this week and IndyCar and the continued dominance of Alex Blough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also it's such a beautiful day Tuesday in Elwood that we just had to record outside
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome sports fans to the Central Indiana sports report for the first grade versus well versus the world a little while as we've explained we're kind of in the beta stage on this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So hit and miss once we get to August though we'll make sure that we do it every week and the bottom line of the podcast is that we're making predictions and we're gambling points on future predictions and debating the predictions that we make.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So far Will is quite a bit ahead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just got into town so I haven't had a chance to tell you it up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's something like eight to three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, it's going to get better here for me coming up and that's starting right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Four topics.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to debate and we're going to put points up in the air.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think every single one of our points this week is worth one point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes you're picking an entire field like we did the masters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's worth three if you're picking from eight or so, six to eight options with its worth two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But this week with the NBA finals, the NHL finals and some other topics, one point for everyone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And well and I are out here at Stage 22 and beautiful Elwood Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_02]: First time we've been live for a little while as well and welcome Will and it's about to turn around here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Greg, I don't know exactly what the points are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I know there was point, way you know the spurreds of the idea and all to believe that up waiting, I feel coughed in my arms, blow against the field prediction.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The way you're was will it be the nicks and thunder in the finals?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you said no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was the point you got.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even better, and I, I, the fuck correct up, I said it with me, the names of the beads.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it feels good right now to be on top.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to get too ragged and anxious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because we're so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been, I feel like I'm seeing the more people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, I, I believe I sent you a text a few days ago when the spurs
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this isn't the only show we make predictions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've been making predictions on other shows that have been really good as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing is maybe the cardinals were a little better than you expected.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I still think I'm going to probably in the long run BRIOMAT, but I like watching them every night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoy it as a fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, do we have a fever or a weight you're out right now?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, who will they play in the NBA final?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So not really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: not look to rate at this moment, but they're playing like asses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're playing really bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's some contention between Caitlin Clark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious to hear your take on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not on this show, maybe on a future one, but I'm something we'll look back in the last one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, uh, I think Stephanie White's the right coach for a trial and tribulation like this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Lisa, Bluder, necessarily,
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[SPEAKER_01]: coach, Caitlyn Clark hard in the way I think Stephanie White.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think the expectation is a little different in college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Caitlyn Trump's best call to play or ever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a professional league now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, some of the antics I think need to chill out a little bit for optics, but I do agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to look back at Pride Laft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of hard to argue with how good they looked at the end of last year without Clark that maybe she's fighting them a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anytime you reinsert a star into the line,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And as we get to question number one, I'll just say that I think it's just a matter of Sophie Cunningham is a lot of the end of the last season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got new players, money, buildings coming in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just takes time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some other teams have more consistency, maybe more camaraderie right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we know this team likes each other, and eventually I think they're going to be the best team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, NBA final start on Wednesday, and we are here to make our prediction.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, here's my question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll take the spurs more than five games to win the NBA Champions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I say yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they win six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I could really see a situation where it goes to seven because I do think the nicks are playing really well right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Mike Brown's got that team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think in a different level than Tom Tibito did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will say regardless of what you want to say about Tibito's coaching style, he was a great coach and I think Mike Brown's
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now you can say that could be attributed to the fact that, you know, your stars are playing 44 minutes again, but I expect the spurs to win this six week does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Mitchell Robinson with the broken T.C.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is probably going to be able to affect Wimbee just enough in a couple games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were still a couple games that Lester and Conference files were Wimbee looked getable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, ultimately, game 7, game 1, he was absolutely phenomenal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Game 1 getting that in Oklahoma City was a huge win, but basically won the series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: although they did have to win two in okay six and win game seven there as well I I think the spurs are too good probably for the nicks but I think the nicks are good enough that getting to is probably achievable plus I think really I see five of these six games being close I think you're going to get a blowout probably the spurs are going to kill them game two probably they're going to nicks are going to play awfully hard game one
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think it's an intriguing matchup because the nicks are in the finals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's sad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want the next to win as the Pacers fan because
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel it's cool what the pace was about to go through then you have to watch the X with the finals of the year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And do not be able to fight back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in a year when there, you know, I think just kind of keep in the pace your championship form for a year, we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Greg, I think you could end up being right on this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could take less six, but I feel confident that the next are good enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't be my pick yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know what, I mean, if we're debating it right now, you obviously are going to have a different take.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm I'm curious to see the the best defender on the limbie this entire season was OGN and OB.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm curious to see how Mike Brown chooses to defend limbie if he decides to go with a big in Robinson or Arlene if he counts or if he decides to go a little smaller with OG and try to pester him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It a way that I'm not sure what Rick did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know you had a home room didn't, and I think you're absolutely right, you kind of had free range there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it'll be interesting to see if Oklahoma City sticks with home run in that position or they try to upgrade there because they know they have to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That'll be interesting off season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Two things come to my mind when the reason I think the spurs are going to get a sweep or five games probably more likely five games, the nicks are good enough to win a game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Number one is people who think this is Victor women, yama, and nobody else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a really good to I think if a mismatch I think the West versus the East was a mismatch this year of course I thought that last year and the past year is almost on the series Well, I'm completely stunned me at the next When six seven maybe even when the series no I think they're probably good enough to do everything fell their way they could my gut feeling tells me Well not only are the spurs gonna win this, but I'm terrified
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[SPEAKER_02]: of the future.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just going to get better and better and better and I'm worried the pace is going to be locked out of a championship for the rest of our lives.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Greg, I hear what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, I think this Pacer seems just entirely different matchup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Versus what the spurs have seen this entire series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still think if we're going to play the way that we solve them play last season, their pace is going to be too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when the Nama is struggling to play 40 minutes,
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the regular season, the average 29th of game, he's gas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did the justification of how good the supporting cast is, how good what they're able to do through the facilitation of Kyrie's Haliburton, that we're just wasting breath saying the Pacers can't do it, whether this team can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This team can do achieve whatever they decide and set their mind to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel firm in the belief that the Pacers would be the most difficult matchup for the spurs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If the Pacers and spurs were playing with Alberto right now, I'd say the Pacers win this in six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think they're going to be so physical in a way that, you know, you can say big body runs in this that and the other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Next have been bullied by the Pacers the last couple times they played them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know why we wouldn't expect the same thing to happen three years in a row.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I totally believe the Pacers would be in the finals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I probably believe that they would win this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But now you're talking about a first team with championship pedigree, a year older, and I'm certain to worry that they're going to be the best team for the next decade.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Question number two will and I will start on this when who is going to win the Stanley Cup, which of course begins on Tuesday night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This might get out a little after it starts, but we promise we made our predictions before it starts and we actually pick two different teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: With hockey as always, you're the expert on the guy who just enjoy watching the games that I'm just gonna pick based on what I want to happen and I actually believe it's going to happen as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, the nights I just hate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that they were an expansion team that got to the finals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to make me hate them for the rest of their existence.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fans of teams that have been around forever waiting for a championship had to sit and watch a team get to the finals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: on their first try and it's got to make the rest of it just sick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't stand the nights not a big fan of all the expansion in the NHL and I just hope that they lose.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also Carolina Hurricane, so they were always very nice to give Marines tickets for free when I was in the Marines.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I never went, but I had some friends who did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they got
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[SPEAKER_02]: because playing really, really well in the postseason after a so-so regular season, I'm going to take the hurricanes in six games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Greg, I like your confidence in the hurricanes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think we are potentially seeing the best of Freddie Anderson in the finals, even in the playoffs as a whole, it's been kind of an underachiever for this hurricane staying the last four years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The team, but everybody says every year is like, all of this is good as it gets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kenny Axe, an incredible fan base, friend of more system, so good for the regular season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: easily scoutable and difficult for the hurricanes to overcome in the postseason, but we've really seen them be a bustle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to give them all their flowers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is the best version of the Caroline Hurricanes we've seen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like Jacob Slavin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that he's been, well, Jacob Slavin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I won't say it with an initiation like I'm Nordic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, I'm from America.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jake and Slave, it's awesome American, so it would not be pronounced Slavin, but that's beside the point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The point is, is that the Hurricanes are going to give him a fight, but I really thank John Tortorella's god this night's team, firing on all cylinders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's turned Mitch Margar into a playoff riser.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I never thought I'd say this word in my entire life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a guy that was cast away in Toronto as just a perennial loser, whenever it mattered, lack of physicality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got the guy on the
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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy's killing penalties.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a golden boy in Toronto for years, which I get, you know, the Toronto media is relentless and they're hatred.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like up the maple Leafs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think, Jack, I equal championship pedigree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can say whatever you want.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where Carter Hart was acquitted in the sexual harassment sexual assault case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can have your opinions on them right wrong or indifferent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the guy is a bribedist career in Vegas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was given up, opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's played incredible in the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's playing as good as Freddie Anderson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think the abs, lacking Kail McCard, did make a difference.
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[SPEAKER_01]: McKinnon was also injured.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that series, but I mean, they swept them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think streets happen just because one guy's out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love this the way this night's team plays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the fortress is as difficult as any place to play an entirely, we are going to get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: probably two of the top five atmospheres in the league in this finals and I it's not sexy on paper.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not like some massive national fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it says it's a good of a series as you're going to see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think good guys versus villains.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is two teams that are built to play free against each other, play for each other in a way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I Greg, I've got the night and I think it goes seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but I think the nights just feel like a team who's physical, the I think the defensive prowess of John Tortorella, he's not coaching at his players, he's coaching with them, and this playoff, I think it makes all the difference.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If the nights win this cup for the first time on my life, the Philadelphia Flyers will not be my most hated franchise.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For the first time on my life, because I really hate this team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hear you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was very skeptical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hated them at first especially.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a fuel fan, you know, he said to help guy through the group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was an evening where Sam Frick and I had to be the only two people that ever get on a national media podcast wearing to a minorly hockey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Difficulty without talking about my back now talking about minor like hockey has to be the first time ever and the comments were the nights affiliate They're first I just I don't know the last few.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love Jack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I I love what I stoner god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I went through that whole segment didn't even talk about Mark Stone Them getting him back in game three of the Western conference finals at Craig.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling us this night's team even though they are the banning underdog
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I, be hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be like taking, picking against the chiefs with their underdog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just don't do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm going to trust my God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to say night in seven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hear you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope you're wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're probably right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, question number three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A couple of big trades in the NFL this week, Miles Garrett, one of the all-time great pastures heading to the Rams already, the betting favorites to win the Super Bowl this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And AJ Brown headed from the Eagles to the Patriots, the ASC Champion Patriots, so a couple of really big deals in the NFL, so I'm going to ask it this way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which of the two miles Garrett or AJ Brown will have the biggest impact by, which team will win the most games, the Rams or the Patriots in 26?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Greg, I think it's an interesting question because you pose it in a way that I have to say the Rams are going to win more games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that Ross was better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you could make an argument that AJ Brown might have a bigger impact on the Patriot 20 more games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That'd be harder to score.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's harder to score.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll keep it simple for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Miles Garrett, I thought the trade was brilliant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really think it's brilliant by the Rams to only have to give up one first round draft pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get they sent Jared verse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Rams are saving money, Greg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think when verse was going to get his extension, he was going to set the record for the highest paid edge in the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I whether right wrong or different whether he earned it, the way he performed in the playoffs last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: he's great it's so i just think that the way the money's new because i think the ram's safe money because they're not extending miles guarantee more he's the highest paid defensive player is the highest paid non quarterback in lead history up to this point but i think Jared versus gonna be the next guy that gets re-uped and so it sounds crazy i am something that we i heard in the the group chain uh text train that we have
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really think the Rams are going to save probably $10 million.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By trading verse now and making Cleveland, sign them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you're good in gear at a point where, however, great you think Jared versus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You think Matt Stafford probably has at Matt's two years left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably your best chance to win a Super Bowl for five years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So don't get the guy that's going to make a bigger deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the Rams are not going to play without many leads.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Miles Garrett's playing fourth quarters, predominantly in his career, stop the run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to get to put his ears back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be Robert Mathis to white for any, you know, we've got a two score lead there throw in the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get the guy in the fourth quarter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I expect Miles Garrett.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He might break his sac record again this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really, I think he could happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he stays healthy,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're talking about a guy that just 28 sacks feel crazy, sounds crazy, but I don't understand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's just that good and I think that the Browns won the trade to it's hard to say they didn't they got a player for the future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got a first round draft pick a
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just get this sneaking suspicion that the Rams may have they have fleece them just because it's cleave on the melt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just low messing up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's the thing, really, is that you think, oh, what a great move by Cleveland.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They get a guy who isn't the past Russia miles Garrett is, but is his good run stopper is younger, gets paid less money?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hadn't thought of the way you put it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you're right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Jared vs. make as much as Miles Garrett was making, but I see where you're coming from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the caps only going to increase.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's going to win that money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whether he gets it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he does, then it's a big win for the brand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is worth it is another question, but he's going to ask for it because he'd be dumb not to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was the best.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will see, I mean, I think this is a guy that's probably going to 20.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Saxons are going to happen, but I think he's a guy that could probably get to 15.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just like, it's a run defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As cold France, we watch him every week thinking, oh my gosh, we could have had this guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will say with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I'm eating up your time, but I think that the Browns are probably staring down a lot of fourth quarters where they are going to have to stop the run and I think your adverse is better than that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The answer for this year is the Rams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the other thing is with the Patriots, they J.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Brown ever gone somewhere and it made the locker room better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's
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[SPEAKER_01]: whether you say the locker room or the team I know he I think he's a locker cancer however he was with Mike Raeble and Tennessee and and I don't know if you've ever seen the reaction from you know that infamous draft where they traded AJ Brown Greg but Mike Raeble was nothing short of pissed that AJ Brown got traded I expect that this is kind of one of those psychotic you know it
20:11
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got work.
20:13
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a lot of opportunity to skip out on the whole variable, recede, you know, the baffle debate.
20:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Guys clearly not thinking what the right head on his body if you want my opinion for the better part of the last three years and I don't think AJ Brown typically thinks what this head at all.
20:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's a match made in heaven.
20:32
[SPEAKER_01]: He, variable, might just be, he might just be the coach I can get the best
20:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and if it works, and Drake may is as good as you can.
20:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to matter because this Patriot seems going to have to play a one schedule this year.
20:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're probably going to make the play off.
20:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So we can debate how many games the Patriots are going.
20:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting ahead of myself a little bit here.
20:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm going to say it.
20:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You're just going to come out.
20:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, it's probably what I would have said to you.
20:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a shot shot.
20:57
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not that.
21:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Beau is waiting.
21:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, I was one year off.
21:11
[SPEAKER_02]: question for Will.
21:12
[SPEAKER_02]: We had a microphone malfunction so we are redoing part four here on the Riverside app and in between I did calculate Will leads 11 to one.
21:25
[SPEAKER_02]: That is so embarrassing.
21:28
[SPEAKER_02]: But this is going to be a comeback and it starts right here.
21:31
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, question number four,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Alex below one last weekend, Indy Troy, he's now one 12 of the last 24 Indy car races.
21:40
[SPEAKER_02]: There are 10 races left this year.
21:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Will, Will, Alex below win at least five races the rest of this season.
21:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Greg, we have already talked about this obviously, I'll just keep my answer the exact same though.
21:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
21:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that up to this point, he's behind-paste free was last year through seven races.
22:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he said, he had won five races in seven starts last year.
22:09
[SPEAKER_01]: He did have a DNF early in the year.
22:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a little behind schedule.
22:14
[SPEAKER_01]: He won the Grand Prix and the 500 last year in India.
22:17
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't do that this year.
22:18
[SPEAKER_01]: He won last week in Detroit.
22:23
[SPEAKER_01]: won the oval and then possibly sweep the road courses left.
22:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it doesn't feel crazy to say he's been that dominant.
22:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He was incredibly dominant in Detroit last week.
22:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I was that by lap.
22:39
[SPEAKER_01]: 84, they were joking for who's going to come in second.
22:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the type of prowess he'd has on the Graham pre-circuits.
22:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think he's too dominant, right?
22:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anyone can stop him.
22:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the only person, well, I guess two people that I really think give him fits potentially on road courses are kind of an award in Kyle Kirkwood.
23:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I think those are the only two that I see is up to his standard
23:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of agree with everything you just said, well, I think if you kind of look from the perspective that this is kind of a spec series to just two engines.
23:22
[SPEAKER_02]: You look at all the factors the cars were meant to be competitive with each other.
23:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Alex blows probably in the middle of the greatest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: two year run in the history of the sport, including some amazing Mario and Dreddy and AJ voices, and they'll probably seem more dominant.
23:40
[SPEAKER_02]: But back then, if you had the more dominant car you were expected to kind of be the dominant winner of the season.
23:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And now, the series is not meant to be that way.
23:50
[SPEAKER_02]: The series is meant to be a different winner every week.
23:54
[SPEAKER_02]: you have even the mid-level teams, their drivers are competitive week to week, almost every single driver in the series, you go into the weekend, think they have a chance to win, except for maybe Stingray Rob, a couple of guys like that, sorry Stingray.
24:11
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the way the series was set up, that's the way the series was for a long time.
24:15
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the way the series has been pretty
24:22
[SPEAKER_02]: even pinsky dominates the 500, but they haven't dominated race to race for a long time, and it just doesn't happen and Alex blows doing that, but everything I just argued
24:33
[SPEAKER_02]: four Alex blow is the reason I'm gonna argue against him.
24:36
[SPEAKER_02]: The field's just too good.
24:38
[SPEAKER_02]: The series is just too competitive.
24:40
[SPEAKER_02]: There are just too many things that can go wrong week to week.
24:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything's gone right.
24:44
[SPEAKER_02]: His team is so good.
24:45
[SPEAKER_02]: He is so good.
24:47
[SPEAKER_02]: They made all the right decisions last week and they're going to be, they're going to win the championship.
24:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's over.
24:53
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to win that point as well.
24:55
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think he's going to win five for the last 10 races.
25:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds crazy.
25:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's too good.
25:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I really do and I say that he wins one of him.
25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He may win two more ovals.
25:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's definitely, he's kind of gotten over that home to where that was kind of his kryptonite there early in his career, even when he is then on the streak of championship, he's really has not performed well, though, we'll see kind of slip to the road courses for the most part.
25:22
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, Indy, he got over that hump last year, it felt like, and I just see, I think he's going to win this week.
25:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate to demide.
25:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I if you were to say pull over the fields.
25:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say below.
25:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think he race, he race to go into.
25:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Think that second last year.
25:40
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
25:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you beat all the other point on that.
25:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Pull over.
25:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would, yes, I would put, I would put a point on.
25:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Pull over and feel the same loose four points up for grabs this week.
25:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I feel like he, it was kind of snake bitten by Indie.
25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: If the strategy had gone his weight in one, he did one back back.
26:01
[SPEAKER_02]: if we can't even get in his way on the last restart, he goes straight to the front of the field.
26:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And Reno's v-gated absolutely nothing wrong.
26:10
[SPEAKER_02]: He just chose the path that was in front of Alex Plo.
26:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was the only thing that kept him from one of the five minutes.
26:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, the way we went on.
26:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I wouldn't be shocked.
26:20
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how good he is.
26:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I would deal a little shocked.
26:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope at some point somebody would maybe clip the back tires.
26:27
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no place that going into.
26:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be shocked that he won.
26:29
[SPEAKER_02]: How about I'll say it that way?
26:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He should be the betting favorite in every single race.
26:34
[SPEAKER_01]: He...
26:35
[SPEAKER_01]: he starts.
26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's that he's that good.
26:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's the best driver in the world.
26:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I really do.
26:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that outside of Kyle Larson, he's probably the American wise and it goes to our step-of-the-field.
26:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that NASCAR is probably even a little more competitive week to week than any car is.
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: just from the standpoint of there's on an Alps below.
26:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's cool to witness such a dominant run.
27:00
[SPEAKER_01]: He's that much better than the competitors.
27:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, I mean, his own teammates, they get the same stuff, the access to great crews, access to great strategist, great engineers, and he's just flat out better.
27:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, at some point you just have to take your time to will.
27:17
[SPEAKER_01]: If you put him on the worst team in the worst car, he'd win a race.
27:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
27:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Greg, I do want to take this time.
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I would be remiss.
27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I said wouldn't happen.
27:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to talk about it.
27:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I would really like to just
27:38
[SPEAKER_01]: let the world know how much I loved Kyle Bush.
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: He was my favorite driver.
27:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got probably 20 die cast.
27:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been a giant die calf since on my nightstand that people may think that silly it did kind of is.
27:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But I haven't, and I can't remember time in my life.
27:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't love Kyle Bush.
27:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he is obviously has the most wins above NASCAR's top three series of anybody in racing history.
28:06
[SPEAKER_01]: was just I know that the Richard Children's time era will be largely forgotten when you look at his totality of a career but what that man did on a week to week basis with Joe Gibbs racing in that 18 and then I just I won't ever forget it.
28:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think one of the all time grades and up there Tony Stewart and a couple others of guys who just loved race as much as
28:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was a racer, I mean, he thought it was a racer, and I really, I think as a fan of his appreciated what happened in terms of the remembrance at Charlotte at the Speedway in Montreal, that's one, I think it really goes to show how important he was to the racing community, the all three series go all out.
28:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, NASCAR, this whole season, it's just going to be
28:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I think tainted for a lot of fans because they lost Kyle.
29:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd liken it as the biggest loss in motorsport since Dale senior probably I can't think Dan Welden is the other one that comes to mind.
29:10
[SPEAKER_01]: But just in the middle of the series,
29:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that prayers and thoughts to his family is this son is an aspiring racer.
29:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, well, he's incredible on the junior circuit, but it's just, yeah, I could not good on this podcast and not let the world know that he was my guy, and I'm really sad to see him go.
29:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Not an ass car fan will, but I always appreciated Kyle Bush for the great driver that he was.
29:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks so much for your time.
29:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Appreciate it as always.
29:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, thank you.
29:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks so much to Will, thank you for listening.
29:51
[SPEAKER_02]: By the time we get the Kings figured out here, I think we really got a show.
29:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Love this podcast, love the idea, which I was doing a little better.
30:03
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a Pacer's report coming out a little later Wednesday, possibly Thursday morning, probably Thursday morning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and the fever return on Thursday night will have a reaction, as well as a an indie car report with Elijah Pope this week as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks so much for listening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Once again.
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