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Walter Bosley | Was Roswell UFO Fake? · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: Is the greatest confirmation that the more serious SSP discussion
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  Speaker 1: was right on the money in the establishment of Space Force. Now,
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  Speaker 1: when it first came out og you know, certain political
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  Speaker 1: opponents of it. You know, they even came out, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood even came out with their TV series making fun
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  Speaker 1: of space Foce and gee, it's a real thing. It's
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  Speaker 1: here to stay. It is a branch of the military.
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  Speaker 1: And what that means is in the standing up of
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  Speaker 1: Space Force. For those who didn't believe that there was
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  Speaker 1: any kind of classified military space ops going on before
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  Speaker 1: Space Force, I got news for you. You can count
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  Speaker 1: on it existing henceforth. Okay, Now, I we come from,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the school of thought that they've been doing
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  Speaker 1: classified space ops. Now I've said it before. It's my
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  Speaker 1: opinion that all classified space ops that had gone on
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  Speaker 1: before the standing up of Space Force, this just gets
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  Speaker 1: folded into the history of the space ops and will
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  Speaker 1: become part of the background leading up to Space Force.
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  Speaker 1: You know. So again, if fine, if you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to buy that it was going on before Space Force,
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  Speaker 1: you can't deny that it will be going on under
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  Speaker 1: Space Force. Because we know that all the other military
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  Speaker 1: branches have classified ops. Right, what makes people think that
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  Speaker 1: Space Force ain't going to do that. I'm on of
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  Speaker 1: course they're going to do it, because in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to continue what the US has been doing
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  Speaker 1: since the late forties anyway with this. But the downside
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  Speaker 1: to this that I'm talking about is because of that,
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  Speaker 1: it might be harder to get a look and have
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  Speaker 1: that same legitimate SSP discussion that I refer to that
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  Speaker 1: up till twenty fifteen, that was getting more prominence because
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  Speaker 1: now if it's a part of an actual active branch
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  Speaker 1: of the military, things will be clamped down on even
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  Speaker 1: more so because think about it, classified space stuff. Before
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  Speaker 1: a Space Force, they had to really hide it. Right
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  Speaker 1: now they can be more well, of course there's classified
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  Speaker 1: ops in space. We have you know, the Navy has
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  Speaker 1: classified ops. We don't tell you about the details of those,
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  Speaker 1: nor what the Army or Air Force is doing, and
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  Speaker 1: you accept it because these are very publicly known organizations.
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  Speaker 1: Same thing with Space Force. Now they can just even
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  Speaker 1: more clamp down on even more sources of information on
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  Speaker 1: what we're really doing secretly in space because they can
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  Speaker 1: just say, well, of course that's clamped down. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: you can't get that because that reveals what our new
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  Speaker 1: branch is doing. So it might actually, because of that, ironically,
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  Speaker 1: be more difficult now to return to a legitimate SSP conversation.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with a speculative discussion because the honest
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  Speaker 1: person says, hey, this is a hypothesis, this is what
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  Speaker 1: I think. I don't know whether I'm right or not.
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  Speaker 1: And this is where the storytellers have kind of ruined things,
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  Speaker 1: is them coming out saying, oh, well, I know this
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  Speaker 1: to be true because of my inside See there's the
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  Speaker 1: line that's the crap we need to yeah, right, okay,
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  Speaker 1: your anonymous insider or you were a time jumping this,
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  Speaker 1: that and the other no bs and you know, the
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  Speaker 1: acceptable side of the line is where people say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is my hypothesis. I don't know for sure. I
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  Speaker 1: could be wrong about this or that. Nothing wrong with that,
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  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. But I hope that this whole thing,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this revelation from Corey Goods deposition, I hope
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  Speaker 1: this does, you know, put the nail in the coffin
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  Speaker 1: on the discussion, these fantasy discussions. I would like to
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  Speaker 1: see it have a longer term effect and impact on
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  Speaker 1: the community. In that this kind of crap just won't
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  Speaker 1: get started again. But unfortunately, there's dummies out there that
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  Speaker 1: just want to hear these stories and believe it. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't know any more polite way to put.
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  Speaker 2: It, I agree, I agree with one hundred percent. So
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  Speaker 2: you've written several books on this, You've written books on
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  Speaker 2: the Sonora Errol Club and on Nim's good connections for
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  Speaker 2: a lot of this technology and a lot of these
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  Speaker 2: UFOs actually being our technology and the technology that we've
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  Speaker 2: created on our own. So I think that this is
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  Speaker 2: a very important time to kind of go back and
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  Speaker 2: touch on that. And I know that we've talked about
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  Speaker 2: it in in previous interviews, but I think right now
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  Speaker 2: it's the most important thing to really be discussing because
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  Speaker 2: I do believe that there is a real element to this,
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  Speaker 2: but again, it's just been overshadowed by all of this
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  Speaker 2: bullshit nonsense, and that's served as a cover so that
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  Speaker 2: the governments and through that organizations don't have to take
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  Speaker 2: responsibility or reveal any of the technology that they have
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  Speaker 2: created on their own, right.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Well, if you'll notice a couple of years back,
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  Speaker 1: I think I started referring in this discussion too. I
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  Speaker 1: started calling it classified space ops to get away from
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  Speaker 1: using the SSP Secret Space Program, Moniker, because as you said,
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  Speaker 1: that's been kind of tainted by the nonsense. But when
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  Speaker 1: you go back and look through the history of aviation
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  Speaker 1: in the United States in particular, which naturally leads to
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  Speaker 1: space you know, space aviation as it were, you begin
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  Speaker 1: to you really begin to see where the pursuit of
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  Speaker 1: going into space was actually there much earlier in a
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  Speaker 1: serious way. We're not talking about well, yeah, everybody knows
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  Speaker 1: the rocket engineers and stuff. When they were little boys
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  Speaker 1: they read Jules Bver and blah blah blah inspite No, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the actual
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  Speaker 1: you know, aviation scientists dating back to the late teens
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  Speaker 1: and early nineteen twenties. They were seriously thinking how do
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  Speaker 1: we get into space? Okay, they were pursuing this in
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  Speaker 1: aviation medicine. Now, a lot of people, myself included, I
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  Speaker 1: would never have guessed that aviation medicine would reveal as
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  Speaker 1: much about what I think was classified you know space
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  Speaker 1: ops as it does. And one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: you learn is when you look at Operation paper Clip
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  Speaker 1: and you discover that the the seed for that, the
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  Speaker 1: origin for that wasn't about the bomb getting the bomb scientists.
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  Speaker 1: The origin of Operation paper Clip started with one of
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  Speaker 1: our top aviation medicine scientists and pilots, Colonel Harry Armstrong,
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  Speaker 1: at the end of World War Two. He was before
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  Speaker 1: the war, the German aviation scientists and aviation medicine specialists
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  Speaker 1: and the Americans and the Europeans, they all knew each other.
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  Speaker 1: They were going to the same scientific conferences and they
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  Speaker 1: were sharing notes and ideas, and then of course politics
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  Speaker 1: and the war happens. And at the you know, as
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  Speaker 1: we're approaching the end of the war, the Allies are
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  Speaker 1: controlling there's an area, it's in Heidelberg, and they put
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  Speaker 1: together this list of aviation scientists of the Luftwaffe of
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  Speaker 1: Germany that they want to get their hands on and
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  Speaker 1: bring to the United States. So the brainchild of Operation
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  Speaker 1: paper Clip came out of the aviation medicine field, and
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  Speaker 1: it was to get the German experts that had these
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  Speaker 1: big reputations that Armstrong and the others knew personally. They
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  Speaker 1: wanted to get them in America for you know, what
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  Speaker 1: was clearly going to be a post war pursuit of
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  Speaker 1: putting man in space. And this was the impetus for
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  Speaker 1: Operation paper Clip, not just the bomb, not even primarily
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  Speaker 1: the bomb. And when you look more closely at the
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  Speaker 1: way it went down, there's reason to suspect that actually
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  Speaker 1: Operation paper Clip was a German idea. In other words,
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  Speaker 1: that these scientists associates of Armstrong said, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we have an idea. Why don't you know you bring us,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to the States and will work for your side,
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  Speaker 1: that kind of thing, and well, yeah, we'll help you
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  Speaker 1: put man in space. So it really dates back to
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  Speaker 1: before Roswell, the serious pursuit of this. Now some people know,
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  Speaker 1: those who particularly who've read my book Shimmering Light, you
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  Speaker 1: know that my hypothesis I propose reflects what I was
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  Speaker 1: just talking about. And my hypothesis for Roswell is that
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  Speaker 1: it was not an extraterrestrial incident. In my hypothesis, all
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  Speaker 1: the elements, the historical elements, that this is a matter
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  Speaker 1: of record, all the elements are in place in New
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  Speaker 1: Mexico for Roswell to actually have been a first classified
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  Speaker 1: attempt at putting man in space by the United States
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  Speaker 1: working with the paper Clip German aviation scientists and aviation engineers.
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  Speaker 2: One