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- 0:03So Michael Schellenberger the w PATH files. Now, the word expert has taken
- 0:08quite a beating the last few years, hasn't. It doesn't feel like it
- 0:12means the same thing it used to, and these appeals to authority, to
- 0:17the experts are not nearly as convincing as they used to be. This is
- 0:22one of the reasons why, because institutionally there has been a bias that has
- 0:29crept in a far left, to my mind, extremist bias that has crept
- 0:33into everything and taken over institutions. So let's take a look. Advocates of
- 0:40gender affirming care say it's evidence based, hmmm. But now newly released internal
- 0:46files from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health WPATH prove that the practice of
- 0:53transgender medicine is neither scientific nor medical. Well that you didn't really need to
- 0:59actually eve and be an expert to figure that out. I mean, it's
- 1:03also incoherent, I mean just right from the start. So is it that
- 1:08everything's a social construct, including gender? So is it that or is it
- 1:14that it's set Because apparently at the same time and the duality of all this
- 1:19far left Marxist lunacy, a five year old can be bored in the wrong
- 1:23body and absolutely no for sure. So which is it social construct or is
- 1:29it fixed? Well, I guess it just depends on on the whim,
- 1:34on what's most convenient for the moment. But let's hear as Schollenberger talking about
- 1:40it himself. Here, let's go through this video. A year and a
- 1:42half ago, a video of gender medicine experts went viral on it. They
- 1:47talked about how hard it is to talk with teenagers about whether they might want
- 1:49to have kids one day. It's always a good theory that you talk about
- 1:53fertility preservation with a thirteen year old. But I know I'm talking to a
- 1:59blank wall, and the same would happen for assist gender kid right thimly you
- 2:02kids, babies, growths or usuals back answers, I'm going to adopt.
- 2:06I'm just going to adopt. And then you ask the world, which does
- 2:08it evolved? Like, how what does it cost? Oh? I thought
- 2:10you just like went to the orphanage and they gave you a baby. No,
- 2:15it's not quite like that. That's doctor Daniel Metzger, and he's talking
- 2:19about the challenge of getting what's known as informed consent from children and adolescents to
- 2:23undergo procedures that will result in their sterilization. Over the last several years,
- 2:29doctors, medical experts on the media have all said that the best way to
- 2:32help adolescents in distress about their gender is to give them puberty blockers, hormones,
- 2:38and surgeries to align their physical sex with their gender identity. The alternative
- 2:44to doing so, they said, was suicide. But now a new study
- 2:47released last month found no scientific evidence to support the claim that drugs and surgeries
- 2:52prevent suicide among people with gender dysphoria. Now, I agree we should be
- 2:57concerned about children adolescents experiencing distress about their biological sex, but now there's even
- 3:02more evidence to warrant greater caution in how we treat them. Whistleblowers have given
- 3:07me the internal files from the main gender medicine organization, which is known as
- 3:12w PATH and stands for the World Professional Association for Transgender Health. The w
- 3:17PATH files show surgeons, therapists, and activists discussing it internally how to treat
- 3:23people with gender distress. What they show is that what's happening is neither good
- 3:27science nor good medicine. There's a discussion for example about the blocking of puberty
- 3:32of a ten year old girl. There's a discussion of doing general surgery and
- 3:37a people with schizophrenia and its dissociative identity disorder which used to be called multiple
- 3:42personality disorder. At the core of medical ethics is getting this informed consent from
- 3:47the people receiving the medicine or from their caregivers. The w PATH files show
- 3:52overwhelming evidence that the professionals within w PATH know they're not getting consent from children,
- 3:58adolescents, and vulnerable adults or from their caregivers. They know that so
- 4:02called gender affirming care can result in lifelong complications and sterility. Their patients do
- 4:09not understand the implications. Many patients are unaware that they will lose sexual function,
- 4:14including the ability to experience orgasm. After I received these files, my
- 4:17colleagues and I tried to report on them as we would journalists. We quickly
- 4:21became overwhelmed by the size and complexity of the project, and so we decided
- 4:27to write a full report about the files for Environmental Progress, our nonprofit research
- 4:31institute, in order to put the w PATH files in the context of the
- 4:35best available science about gender distress. The result is a new report w path
- 4:41files pseudoscientific surgical and hormonal experience. So what we're going to find in this
- 4:46is that there's no guardrails anymore. Right, everything is just, everything is
- 4:53just what feels left wing, what feels you know, I would use the
- 4:58word fashionable at this point. You know, this feels like it's left,
- 5:03it feels progressive. You know, we've been told that anybody who's opposed to
- 5:08it is one of those far right people, one of those scary far right
- 5:11people. Any person with common sense is scary and far right. You know,
- 5:15the real question is, well, it's not even a question. It's
- 5:18obvious and obviously American Medical Association, Indocrine Society, American Academy of Pediatrics,
- 5:26there's no guardrails. These could no longer be considered legitimate institutions. And let's
- 5:30see why. And I think the thing if you remember about kids, is
- 5:33that we're often explaining these sorts of things to people who haven't even had biology
- 5:38in high school yet. And and and I know I've heard others in this
- 5:44kind of a in this kind of a studying say, well, people who
- 5:46haven't even had biology in high school yet, we think adults are like really
- 5:51slick biologically even picked. Lots of people have very little medical understanding of stuff
- 5:58like that. We just medical professional and mental health professionals take for granted.
- 6:01But I don't know still what to do for the fourteen year olds. The
- 6:04parents have it on their minds, but the fourteen year old, you just
- 6:09it's like talking to with diabetic complications. With the fourteen year old, they
- 6:12don't care. They're not going to die there, They're going to live forever.
- 6:14Right, So I think I think when we're doing informed consent, I
- 6:18know that that's still a big lacuna. So informed consent, right, I
- 6:24mean from these conversations, it's clear, I mean it. Obviously they don't
- 6:29there's no any sensible person understands that the child does not have cannot give informed
- 6:33consent to these life, life changing things that are going to affect their body
- 6:40in ways that they can't possibly understand. How could you before you've even gone
- 6:44through puberty, if we're talking about puberty blockers, you haven't had a chance
- 6:47to live in your fully developed body yet. Obviously, informed consent is impossible,
- 6:54and they're talking about it themselves. These are these are internal discussions from
- 6:58w path. These the people that are used to justify doing these things.
- 7:02These medical experiments is what I consider them to be. Medical experiments on children.
- 7:09Here at fourteen years old, trans female wants gender affirming surgery fourteen years
- 7:14old. Hello, my dear colleagues, I would like to know how to
- 7:18proceed on a fourteen years old trans female who started transition since she was four.
- 7:26She wants to have gender affirming surgery male to female, and her parents
- 7:30are supporting her decision. But I have never done this on such a young
- 7:33patient. What are your recommendations for this case? Just making it up?
- 7:42I mean, obviously there's not even any any kind of strict formal rules around
- 7:46this. They're just making it up. It's a giant social experiment. Obviously.
- 7:53How about this blockers for preteens height potential. I have been reading hearing
- 7:59some conflict information about the effects of puberty blockers on total height achievement. Ten
- 8:05year old patient about whether blockers will stunt his growth if he starts them now
- 8:11as his doc has approved. So doctors already approved this. I understand blockers
- 8:16can slow the rate of growth, but for those who start them at say
- 8:20age ten, before they have hit their growth spurt and remain on them for
- 8:24a total of three to four years. What happens afterwards if they opt to
- 8:28begin testosterone rather than resume the puberty consistent with They don't. They're just making
- 8:35it up as they go along, make changing children's lives forever in irreversible ways.
- 8:43I'm curious as to how medical docs approach important issues such as stature when
- 8:48starting blockers, especially in earlier stages of development. Are there ways to maximize
- 8:52growth potential for young patients? They're making it up as they go along.
- 8:56It's hard to understand how people could be involved in all of this and just
- 9:03keep going like they know that. They don't really know what they're doing.
- 9:07There's not even any real rules around it. They don't understand the processes.
- 9:13It's hard to imagine how an adult with a conscience could just keep going.
- 9:18How about this, Many young patients experiencing gender distress do not appear to understand
- 9:22that they may suffer serians serious consequences from long term homone use and genital surgery.
- 9:31Hi all, I've been thinking more about what it looks like to obtain
- 9:33fully informed consent. This is really the crucial issue around all of this.
- 9:37Informed consent you're talking about children, Children that you don't allow to buy cigarettes,
- 9:45or to drink alcohol, or to drive a car. I've been thinking
- 9:48more about what it looks like to obtain fully informed consent. I was curious
- 9:52to what degree if any other mental health providers discuss actual rates of surgical complications
- 10:00clients when providing assessments for surgical care i e. Pain or loss of sensation,
- 10:05need for additional surgeries, necrotic tissue infection, hematosis strictures, implant related
- 10:11complications, etc. Geez, sounds like maybe you shouldn't even be doing it
- 10:16at all, right. I'm also curious if others think it is safe to
- 10:20assume that surgeons disclose actual complication rates versus informing clients that these complications may happen.
- 10:28I realize research on some of these complications may be limited for various reasons.
- 10:33Yeah, like since this is a fad that started like fifteen minutes ago,
- 10:39like that, like, since none of you have any idea, like
- 10:41what the fuck you're doing? Like this is just a giant experiment. How
- 10:48is it even possible that this could happen to any child? When there are
- 10:54these questions around consent? How is it even possible to me, you'd have
- 10:58to be a sociopath to just go along with this. We don't really know
- 11:03what we're doing, but we're going to keep doing it to kids, and
- 11:05well if it destroys their life, well, you know, so be it.
- 11:09I guess I just wanted to piggyback on all of the importance that comes
- 11:15up with the informed consent issues. I often see people who, because there's
- 11:22such a backlog of therapists to do some of the mental health therapeutic support,
- 11:33I often see people who have already engaged in some sort of and this is
- 11:37again with youth who've already engaged in some sort of medical intervention. And so
- 11:45one of the things I do is I just kind of I'm sitting with the
- 11:46youth and their parents, and I say, oh, well, so tell
- 11:48me more about what you know about that medical intervention. And kind of like
- 11:54what Dan was saying, you know, children and young adolescents, we wouldn't
- 11:58really expect them. It's kind of a developmental it's out of their developmental range.
- 12:03Sometimes to understand the extent out of their developmental range. Sometimes to understand,
- 12:11okay, to which some of these medical interventions are impacting them we do
- 12:16it. We try to talk about it til most of the kids are nowhere
- 12:20in any kind of a brain space to really, really really talk about in
- 12:24a serious way. That's always bothered me, But you know, we still
- 12:28want the kids to be happier in the moment. Right. But let's go
- 12:33back to what was this guy saying. We try to talk about it till
- 12:37most of the kids are nowhere in any kind of a brain space to really
- 12:41really really talk about in a serious way. That's always bothered me, But
- 12:46you know, it's always bothered him. You'd think it would bother them.
- 12:52You would think it would bother them when they're walking kids into these irreversible life
- 12:56changing sterilizations. For example, I appreciate that much less with than nine to
- 13:03ten or eleven year old who's who's who's starting puberty suppression? And like Wren
- 13:11said, if they continue on then and and I mean, it's it's like
- 13:16developmentally not in their space to be able to have to think about that,
- 13:24and it shouldn't be right, And so I think it is. I think
- 13:28it is a real growing edge in a field to kind of figure out how
- 13:33we can how we can approach that. I'm definitely a little stumped on it.
- 13:39So they know that these children cannot possibly give in four consent. They're
- 13:43just saying it right here. So why are all these Why why are American
- 13:48Medical Association, Endocrine Society, the American Academy of Pediatrics. Why are they
- 13:54relying on them as an authority? How does this happen? It happens when
- 13:58the truth doesn't matter anymore, That's how it happens. Let's go back to
- 14:03the chat. The air Rifles says, how can they not be child abuse?
- 14:07To my mind, it's obvious child abuse, don't I don't see any
- 14:13other option there? Right? What is the other option? Exactly? These
- 14:18people are admitting that they're making it up as they go along. It's the
- 14:22Invin says, it's not informed consent if the patient is incapable of understanding the
- 14:28information. Exactly. Yes, you see, like normal people understand that you
- 14:35don't need to be an endocrinologist, you don't need to be a pediatrician,
- 14:39Like you don't need to be an expert to know that. Anybody can know
- 14:43that. Right. So, just we've reached a point where literally literally just
- 14:48the layman understands the issue better, or at least as better no, No,
- 14:56it does actually actually understands the issue better than these so called experts,
- 15:01and certainly has a much more moral foundation for questioning it than the experts have
- 15:07for defending it. I don't see how that could be any more clear.
- 15:11I mean, we're seeing it here. This isn't even surprise anybody. By
- 15:16the way, Let's see what does this one say in a developmentally delayed thirteen
- 15:20year old adolescent currently on pubertal suppression. You know, this is I always
- 15:28say this all the time. This is like alternate universe kind of stuff here
- 15:31like that, this is real. They're talking about a developmenttally delayed thirteen year
- 15:37old on pubertal suppression. Okay, that may not reach the emotional and cognitive
- 15:43development bar set by SEC within the typical adolescent time frame, if at all.
- 15:50What is the ethical approach to care? What is the ethical approach to
- 15:54care? So you've already got a developmentally developmentally delayed thirteen year old on puberty
- 16:03blockers, and now you're asking what is the ethical approach to care? You've
- 16:08got a thirteen year old that may not reach the emotional and cognitive developmental bar
- 16:15necessary. Now's the time I get Now is the time to ask, what's
- 16:19the ethical approach? I mean, this is just moral blindness. I mean,
- 16:26I guess the person in this communication is maybe starting to go, well,
- 16:30hold on a second, maybe that maybe somewhere there's a couple in urns
- 16:33in the back of their head that's going, uh oh, maybe I'm doing
- 16:37something evil. Let's see. So the standard would be that the adolescent demonstrates
- 16:41emotional and cognitive maturity required to provide informed consent assent for the treatment. Again,
- 16:47wouldn't a sane person, a person with a conscience, or just like
- 16:52just an your average human being. Just wonder if a thirteen year old can
- 16:59give informed consent to things that they don't understand. Clearly don't understand if you've
- 17:03never been through puberty, if you if you don't have an adult body,
- 17:07you don't know what that's like, clearly, Like you kind of have to
- 17:11go through it to know what it's like. Right, So, right from
- 17:15the start, the whole thing is fucking insane. And I think now that
- 17:19I follow a lot of kids into their mid twenties, I'm always like,
- 17:22oh, the dog isn't doing it for you? Right? Yeah, They're
- 17:26like, no, I just found this, you know, wonderable partner,
- 17:27and now you're kids, and so I think, you know, it doesn't
- 17:32surprise me. Jesus, Jesus, dog's not doing it for you. So
- 17:40following them into their mid twenties and they're saying that, well, actually I
- 17:42kind of wanted I think I kind of want to have kids. I found
- 17:45this partner. I want to have kids now. And the response is,
- 17:49well, the dog's not doing it for you. So that's somebody who's now
- 17:55in their twenties that this person sterilized as a child, going on the assumption
- 17:59that they could get informed consent as a child. You think that if this
- 18:04were even a remotely decent person, they would be screaming from the rooftops about
- 18:08this. It wouldn't need to be leaked footage or anything like that. Did
- 18:14they be on the rooftops saying, no, this is wrong. I've seen
- 18:18it. This is wrong. This is what's happening. I find it's I
- 18:23find it baffling. A lot of people say, eventually people who do this,
- 18:29the children are going to be put in prison. Perhaps it's interesting,
- 18:33isn't it. Anyway? That's all I gotta say about that. Please like,
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