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Speaker 1: It's the report.
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Speaker 2: Tonight the war, the war with Iran widens as Iran
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Speaker 2: gets more desperate, and how it's going to change the
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Speaker 2: world and affect Australia, plus an Iranian protest. The contradicts
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Speaker 2: from MS the Penny Wong says, keep the bombing going
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Speaker 2: or so tonight the ABC's disgraceful coverage of this war,
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Speaker 2: plus of course the latest polls bad news for the liberals.
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Speaker 1: But first.
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Speaker 2: Americas Donald Trump and Israel's Benjamin Etnier, who have launched
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Speaker 2: an attack in Iran that is going to change the
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Speaker 2: world and if it succeeds so, and the signs are
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Speaker 2: already that it will. After just two days so far
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Speaker 2: of missile and drone attacks for more than five hundred targets,
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Speaker 2: the US and Israel have already taken out forty eight
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Speaker 2: of the top leaders of this Islamic fascist regime, including
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Speaker 2: the Supreme Leader and his defense chiefs. The Iranian regimes
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Speaker 2: and chaos, and the already signs of some splits at
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Speaker 2: the top. On the one side, there are elements of
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Speaker 2: the army and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps who are
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Speaker 2: firing missiles and drones at every Arab neighbor including the
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Speaker 2: United Arab Emirates, QA, Jordan and Qatar. Has even hit
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Speaker 2: the world's busiest airline airport in Dubai, paralyzing international flights,
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Speaker 2: with Qatar's airport also shut. On the other hand, he
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Speaker 2: runs foreign minister. It's not quite apologized to his Arab neighbors,
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Speaker 2: but did say, well, the leadership, or what's left of it,
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Speaker 2: has asked now the army to just hit American targets
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Speaker 2: from now on.
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Speaker 3: We have already told our army armed forces to be
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Speaker 3: careful about the targets that they choose. Our military military
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Speaker 3: units are now in fact independent and somehow isolated, and
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Speaker 3: they are acting based on instructions, you know, the general
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Speaker 3: instructions given to them in advance.
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Speaker 2: Those instructors they're operating in were attack everything. But it's
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Speaker 2: all too late to stop this now because all the
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Speaker 2: Gulf states are condemned Iran. Several are now said to
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Speaker 2: be about to help Israel and the US actually attack Iran,
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Speaker 2: and Britain, France and Germany say they'll help the Gulf
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Speaker 2: states defend themselves. So this wall is widening, but all
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Speaker 2: in ways that hurt Iran.
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Speaker 1: That's it.
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Speaker 2: America has also been heard. It seems to have lost
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Speaker 2: this plane for a start, with AP reporting the pilots
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Speaker 2: are safe. It's unsure what has caused this crash. The
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Speaker 2: US military has yet to comment. It seems maybe the
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Speaker 2: speculations friendly far, but it has confirmed losing three soldiers
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Speaker 2: based in Qait in an Iranian attack. Donald Trump has
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Speaker 2: vowed revenge.
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Speaker 4: And sadly there will likely be more before it ends.
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Speaker 4: That's the way it is, but America will avenge their
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Speaker 4: deaths and deliver the most punishing blow to the terrorists
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Speaker 4: who have waged war against basically civilization.
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Speaker 2: But add also to America's losses, two people shot dead
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Speaker 2: in a bar in Austin, Texas by an immigrant from
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Speaker 2: immigrant from Senegal, the mainly Muslim country, shot by a
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Speaker 2: man wearing a shirt saying property of Allah and an
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Speaker 2: undershirt with an Iranian flag theme a warning again there
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Speaker 2: about Muslim immigration.
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Speaker 1: Israel has also.
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Speaker 2: Been hurt, with nine Israelis killed in Iranian missile attacks.
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Speaker 2: That said, the losses of these allies have been astonishingly light,
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Speaker 2: and that's a tribute to two things that should worry
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Speaker 2: every enemy of Israel and the United States. First, the
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Speaker 2: astonishing intelligence and especially Israel have had I mean, how
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Speaker 2: did they know that around Supreme Leader and stop officials
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Speaker 2: were meeting on Saturday into Iran and where, which of
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Speaker 2: course allowed Israel in the US to kill them all
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Speaker 2: and get this net YEAHU and Trump both had bodies
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Speaker 2: of Kameni's body before Iran even admitted he died, and
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Speaker 2: many hours before announcers cried about the Supreme Leader's.
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Speaker 1: Death on TV. Ye're not in law. Now.
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Speaker 2: That penetration tells you how many Iranian officials must be
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Speaker 2: cooperating with the Israel and the US in their intelligence services.
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Speaker 2: How many must want their own regime gone, knowing it's
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Speaker 2: a disaster.
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Speaker 1: For the country.
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Speaker 2: And second, the second thing here is the technology of
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Speaker 2: the US in Israel.
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Speaker 1: We're able to make.
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Speaker 2: Iran look almost toothless in comparison. And it's not just
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Speaker 2: the advanced weaponry. This identity unknown. It interrupted Iranian television
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Speaker 2: to show Nettnieou and Trump making speeches to the Iranian people,
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Speaker 2: asking the soldiers to surrender and the people to rise
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Speaker 2: against the regime. Some also showed the son of the
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Speaker 2: late Shah as well, now seen as an unofficial opposition leader.
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Speaker 2: Now projecting power is part of the big strategy here
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Speaker 2: of the US and Israel. It's a don't mess with
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Speaker 2: US power. And the aim here isn't really to top
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Speaker 2: of the Iranian Islamic regime that has ruled the run
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Speaker 2: since ninety seventy nine through fear and violence, killing up
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Speaker 2: to thirty six thousand freedom protesters in just the past
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Speaker 2: two months.
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Speaker 1: Nor as Trump promised, the.
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Speaker 2: New democratic Iranian government is that will create the conditions
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Speaker 2: for Iranians to get one. But it says, well, the
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Speaker 2: rest is up to them.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 2: Democracy would of course be nice, but if there's chaos
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Speaker 2: and the streets people versus what's left of the Revolutionary
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Speaker 2: Guard court, it could be a blow bath. Here is
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Speaker 2: what the US really wants, just to destroy Iran. It's
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Speaker 2: a threat to the US and it's Arab allies, and
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Speaker 2: to terrify whoever takes over into playing ball and into
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Speaker 2: leaving America's the dominant power in the Middle East unchallenged.
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Speaker 2: What's more, that will break your UN's close ties to
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Speaker 2: China and Russia, who are America's far more dangerous threats.
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Speaker 2: For Israel, the prize is even bigger destroying Iranian power.
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Speaker 2: It's going to mean destroying the greatest threat to Israel's existence,
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Speaker 2: an Islamic terrorist state which says death to Israel and
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Speaker 2: has worked on nuclear weapons to destroy it, A state
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Speaker 2: which also funded the Hamas terrorist group in Israel's south
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Speaker 2: from the giant Hebela terriss army in Lebanon to its north.
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Speaker 2: Israel's already virtually destroyed him US and decapitated Hisbela. With
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Speaker 2: Iran also destroyed its military power and a funder terrorists,
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Speaker 2: Israel will be safer than it has ever been since
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Speaker 2: its creation. That said, what's left of Hesbelo has now
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Speaker 2: fired rockets as Israel in support of Iran, and Israel
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Speaker 2: has hit back at Hisbela targets in Lebanon. That's society issue,
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Speaker 2: the big picture I've given you, and that is why
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Speaker 2: you now get an unholy alliance opposing this war, including dictators,
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Speaker 2: enemies of America, enemies of Israel, hard left activists, Islamists,
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Speaker 2: the Greens, and other freedom haters communists. China has criticized
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Speaker 2: the attack, so as Vladimir Putins Russia. So in Australia yesterday,
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Speaker 2: as professional protester and Marxist Josh Lee's and his bunch
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Speaker 2: of anti Israel protesters. The Greens, of course, have been
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Speaker 2: a disgrace again, calling this part of Israel's endless war,
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Speaker 2: even though the US has taken the lead here and
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Speaker 2: demanding the world end their bombing. But in Iran, we
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Speaker 2: saw Iranian women dancing for joy in the streets that
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Speaker 2: this hated regime was under attack, saw schoolboys thanking Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump for bombing regime targets. Saw people letting off fireworks
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Speaker 2: as celebration. Men pulled down a statue of the dead
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Speaker 2: Aia Dolla, and women laughed at every blast. So, yes,
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Speaker 2: war is ugly, and innocent people will be killed. Things
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Speaker 2: could yet go very badly wrong, and there is no
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Speaker 2: guarantee that Iran will get democracy after this. But I've
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Speaker 2: never in years seen a war like this where people
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Speaker 2: in the country being attacked are cheering the bombs. The
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Speaker 2: issue is freedom, freedom from tyranny and fear, and the
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Speaker 2: news from the battlefield so far is good. The wonder
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Speaker 2: freedom's enemies are weeping. To discuss this, I'm joined by
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Speaker 2: a Bolt Report regular and a man who has been
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Speaker 2: consulted on these war plans. General Jack Keen is a
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Speaker 2: former Vice chief of Staff for the United States Army
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Speaker 2: and a four star general is now chairman of the
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Speaker 2: Institute for the Study of War. General Keen, thank you
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Speaker 2: so much for your time. Thanks for fitting us in
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Speaker 2: in a very busy week for you. You told us
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Speaker 2: more than a month ago that this attack was coming
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Speaker 2: after less than forty eight hours.
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Speaker 1: What has been achieved? Is it more than you expected?
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm very familiar with the plans. I've seen the
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Speaker 5: IDF plans and I'm very familiar with the US plans
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Speaker 5: in terms of what the objectives military objectives are here,
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Speaker 5: and I can report to you and our audience that
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Speaker 5: we are exceeding expectations of a couple of things.
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Speaker 1: One is.
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Speaker 5: Being able to decapitate as many leaders as we did
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Speaker 5: based on exquisite intelligence. As has been reported. We were
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Speaker 5: able to take advantage of an opportunity that arose quite
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Speaker 5: suddenly over the weekend, and that was a key meeting
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Speaker 5: that many of the leaders were going to have during
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Speaker 5: the daytime, and we moved up the timing of the
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Speaker 5: operation to be frank The operation was planned to go
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Speaker 5: at night, and this was Shabbat Saturday, obviously in Israel,
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Speaker 5: which is as we know, is a holy day for them,
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Speaker 5: and as part of Ramadan obviously, and that exceeded expectations.
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Speaker 5: In having that opportunity, we knew we could get to
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Speaker 5: them for sure. So forty eight leaders decapitated to include
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Speaker 5: the Ayahtola did exceed our expectations. And then what is
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Speaker 5: happening here is because we've been able to hit with
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Speaker 5: massive air strikes over two thousand air strikes in a
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Speaker 5: twenty four hour period. That is really quite staggering even
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Speaker 5: for the United States with the might of its air power,
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Speaker 5: and this is IDF and US military. We were able
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Speaker 5: to deal a decisive blow very early on to the
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Speaker 5: ballistic missile short and medium range missiles that they have,
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Speaker 5: which is the thing that concerns Israel in the United
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Speaker 5: States in terms of attacking collectively our bases and our people,
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Speaker 5: and secondly being able to go after the drone inventory.
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Speaker 5: So we believe that there's been a week in response
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Speaker 5: from the regime. Initially because Intel told us that the
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Speaker 5: regime was going to as soon as they were hit.
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Speaker 5: They learned the lessons from the Twelve Day War, they
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Speaker 5: fully intended to go all out against US bases, the
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Speaker 5: Israelis and also the Gulf states in the region. From
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Speaker 5: day one, they were not able to do that, and
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Speaker 5: we think two reasons, hitting the chain of command at
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Speaker 5: the top, but also disrupting through cyber attacks and taking
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Speaker 5: down kinetically some of their ability to communicate, disrupted a
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Speaker 5: very centralized chain of command that they enjoy there, and secondly,
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Speaker 5: going after those missiles and drones very early on. So
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Speaker 5: what we're getting back in terms of retaliation, While they
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Speaker 5: obviously are retaliating and they've killed Israelis and they've killed
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Speaker 5: Americans and they wounded both, we are getting less than
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Speaker 5: what we expected and that is very good news. Plus
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Speaker 5: we're systematically we have taken down their navy. They are
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Speaker 5: not going to be able to disrupt anything in the
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Speaker 5: Persian Gulf, to be sure. And we are systematically andrew
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Speaker 5: taking down everything that sustains this regime. I mean the legislature,
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Speaker 5: a National Security Council, the agencies that support the political
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Speaker 5: side of governance, and then they are IRGC, military forces
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Speaker 5: and security forces, BASM, militia at the police, all that
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Speaker 5: propt this regime up and able to sustain it. We
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Speaker 5: have systematically taking this apart deliberately, not just the leaders
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Speaker 5: at the top. We don't want their ability to recover
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Speaker 5: from this whatsoever. That is our intent here, and then
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Speaker 5: take the arsenal of weapons that they have completely away
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Speaker 5: from them, and that is what we're about. Second, the
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Speaker 5: second thing is they are two sites trying to recover
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Speaker 5: their nuclear enterprise, not the old sites, new sites. We
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Speaker 5: know where they are, and we're taking them down at that.
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Speaker 5: We're going to set them back and end this nuclear
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Speaker 5: enterprise that they are committed to once and for all all.
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Speaker 5: That is our mission here to make certain that Aaran
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Speaker 5: is no longer a threat not only to their own people,
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Speaker 5: but to the region as a destabilizing factor. We intend
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Speaker 5: to take this regime off the board in terms of
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Speaker 5: its capability. Even if there's even if some of the
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Speaker 5: nationalists or idealogues stay in power, they're not going to
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Speaker 5: have the kind of capability and threat that they presented
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Speaker 5: to the region. And obviously, the second goal which we
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Speaker 5: are about is setting the conditions so that the regime
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Speaker 5: as we know it does collapse. And we suspect, based
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Speaker 5: on some intel that we're getting back through our Central
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Speaker 5: Intel Agence Agency and through the Macade, that they're beginning
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Speaker 5: to splinter and divisiveness is taking hold. It's not surprising.
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Speaker 5: When you take away that many leaders people start to question,
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Speaker 5: do I really want to be a part of it?
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Speaker 2: General Ken, you say, you've seen the plans, you know
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Speaker 2: what the goal is. I always thought, you know, people
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Speaker 2: are talking about regime change for ideally for Iranians, that
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Speaker 2: would be great, But it strikes me that Israel and
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Speaker 2: the US don't need to have that to achieve where
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Speaker 2: they really want. Israel more security from attack than they've
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Speaker 2: had since the country was created, the US boosting's power
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Speaker 2: over the whole Middle East, plus the decapitating of Russian
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Speaker 2: and Chinese ally and possibly diverting diverting oil from China.
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Speaker 1: All this is great.
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Speaker 2: But when you've seen these plans, you know what's happened.
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Speaker 2: You know the first day and a half, what is
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Speaker 2: going to happen? What is the next goal on the ground.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're absolutely right, I mean, are our major objective
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Speaker 5: here is to take this threat off the table as
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Speaker 5: it has existed since nineteen eighty And you know, for
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Speaker 5: our audience, because we have people in our country, not
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Speaker 5: a lot certainly, but the political opposition, and we have
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Speaker 5: problems with some of our European friends, they say, well,
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Speaker 5: what's the basis for this, I mean the Americans, do
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Speaker 5: you have a legal basis for actually attacking Iran? Just
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Speaker 5: so the audience on the stands. They began killing US
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Speaker 5: Americans in nineteen eighty three, they killed two hundred and
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Speaker 5: forty one Marines in the barracks that they blew up.
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Speaker 5: First vehicle suicide bomber ever used an effort like that.
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Speaker 5: They blew up the Lebanon US Lebanon Embassy, the US
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Speaker 5: Kuwait embassy they blew up. In the nineties, they blew
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Speaker 5: up our barracks in Saudi Arabia, and we're talking about
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Speaker 5: hundreds of people right now being killed. And then in
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Speaker 5: Iraq using advanced IEDs that they're scientists and engineers created
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Speaker 5: so would penetrate all of our tanks and fighting vehicles,
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Speaker 5: on all of our armored vehicles. The official number six
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Speaker 5: hundred dead. The last commander that was there, four star
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Speaker 5: General Lloyd Austin, who became Secretary of Defense, used to
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Speaker 5: work for me. He said, Jack, the number is really
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Speaker 5: closer to two thousand. We have every right to do
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Speaker 5: what we're doing. Prior to October seventh, the Iranian backed
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Speaker 5: militias attacked US bases in the region in Iraq and
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Speaker 5: Syria one hundred and seventy five times after October to seventh.
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Speaker 5: They did it one hundred and twenty five times in
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Speaker 5: all of these incidents that I've just mentioned about killing
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Speaker 5: Americans that involved three presidents, two of them Republicans, one
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Speaker 5: of them Democrats. Not a single one of them ever retaliated.
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Speaker 5: If we get a positive government out of this in
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Speaker 5: terms of regime change, right right, that's icing on the cake.
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Speaker 5: But this is a national security threat to the United
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Speaker 5: States and in the region that's been destabilized for almost
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Speaker 5: fifty years. We are taking it off the table. That
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Speaker 5: is the number one objective.
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Speaker 2: Well, General Keen, I'd go further than that. Iran, the
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Speaker 2: way it's been lashing out at many of its Muslim
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Speaker 2: neighbors with drones and rockets. You've got several dead already.
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine what a regime like that would have
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Speaker 2: done had it got a nuclear bomb, The way it's
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Speaker 2: flinging weapons around willy nilly. Now, it's interesting here in
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Speaker 2: general Iran's Foreign minister is blaming rogue military or revolutionary
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Speaker 2: guard called units for doing this like distancing what remains
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Speaker 2: of the regime in Tehran from this lashing out suggests
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Speaker 2: to me that already there's some maneuvering ready, there's some splits.
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Speaker 1: Up the top of it. What to do next? What
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Speaker 1: does all that tell you?
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Speaker 5: Well, let me mention about the Golf States. The good
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Speaker 5: news is here. Attacking the Golf States has backfired on
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Speaker 5: the Iranians and they have come together. And certainly, I've
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Speaker 5: always been frustrated with him because privately they support everything
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Speaker 5: we're doing and what the Israelis have been doing everything
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Speaker 5: from October to seventh, privately publicly not quite the same.
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Speaker 5: And I wish they would stop that kind of nonsense
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Speaker 5: and stand up for their principles and support the security
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Speaker 5: that needs to be in the region. Here's the good news, though,
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Speaker 5: four of those nations are going to respond offensively against Iran.
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Speaker 5: One already is I can't reveal those names because they
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Speaker 5: don't want to reveal, but one has already attacked and
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Speaker 5: three others are going to participate in that. So this
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Speaker 5: is backfiring on Runnians, and they have have a limited
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Speaker 5: amount of missiles. And these countries that are being attack
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Speaker 5: the Gulf States, they have very good defensive systems. Most
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Speaker 5: of them are hours that they've been purchasing for years,
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Speaker 5: so they're in pretty good shape in defensive capability, and
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Speaker 5: now four of them are going to contribute to the offense,
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Speaker 5: and that is all very good. This IRGC we're going
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Speaker 5: to strip that unit away. It is not going to
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Speaker 5: exist in any shape or form where it continues to
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Speaker 5: be a threat in the region and also to their
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Speaker 5: own people. We're stripping away to BASM militia and all
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Speaker 5: the repression forces that are used against the people. That
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Speaker 5: is why this campaign from the outset has been a
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Speaker 5: minimum of two to three weeks. The President today said
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Speaker 5: it may take as long as four and I know
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Speaker 5: where he is because I spoke to him this morning
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Speaker 5: and he's in this for as long as it takes.
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Speaker 5: This operation is conditions based, so our already understands that
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Speaker 5: we have objectives that we want to achieve against the
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Speaker 5: Iranian regime and against all of its capabilities. Those are
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Speaker 5: defined military objectives. We are setting the conditions to achieve them.
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Speaker 5: If it takes longer than what we expect, then we're
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Speaker 5: going to do that until we achieve them. If we
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Speaker 5: can do it in less time, because the regime starts
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Speaker 5: to collapse and people are starting to surrender and capitulate.
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Speaker 5: We will certainly accept that reality. But as of now,
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Speaker 5: we're looking at something in the neighborhood of every single
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Speaker 5: day pounding these people for two to three weeks. That
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Speaker 5: is the plan that's on the books.
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Speaker 2: General keen Man, thank you for that brilliant insight into
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Speaker 2: what's really going on.
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Speaker 1: I really appreciate that.
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Speaker 2: Fingers crossed that it works out as well as it
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Speaker 2: has for the first couple of days. Let's hope that
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Speaker 2: it continues that way. Thank you so much for your time. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: great talking to Andrew after the break, the ABC sick
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Speaker 2: coverage of the Iran war and an Ironian protest. There's
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Speaker 2: a message for Penny Wong and the Greens one they
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Speaker 2: won't like. The ABC's coverage of this war has been
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Speaker 2: at despicable at times. It goes beyond one ABC presenter
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Speaker 2: after another demand who know if this war is legal? Now,
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Speaker 2: that's the big point, almost the only point in the
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Speaker 2: toppling of the world's biggest sponsor of terrorism. But something
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Speaker 2: else is the ABC's prominent America's correspondent, John Lyons, his
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Speaker 2: peddling anti Israel conspiracy theories, Israeli Jews dragged the US
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Speaker 2: into this war for the Jews, Israeli Jews. If we
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Speaker 2: dictated Donald Trump's speech declaring it ordered this because Iran
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Speaker 2: was a.
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Speaker 6: Threat, that's Israel's agenda. That's Israel's talking points, not the
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Speaker 6: United States. That speech could have been written and delivered
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Speaker 6: by Benjaminett and Yahoo. This is being driven by Israel.
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Speaker 2: Those wicked is Already Jews seemed to be everywhere lines
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Speaker 2: even hints that they dictated this statement by our prime
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Speaker 2: minister supporting the attack.
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Speaker 6: That first sentence, Australia stands with the brave people of
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Speaker 6: Iran in their struggle against oppression. To me, that is
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Speaker 6: political propaganda. If they're being accurate, If the Prime Minister
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Speaker 6: of Australia is telling the truth, it should say Australia
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Speaker 6: stands with Israel and the US in their new war
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Speaker 6: on Iran. So that is absolute, in my assessment, political propaganda.
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Speaker 1: Blame those Israeli Jews.
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Speaker 6: Again, Australia puts out a statement like this and doesn't
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Speaker 6: even say we support the war. I think the Australian
23:47
Speaker 6: public are entitled to say who's writing all this stuff?
23:51
Speaker 6: I think it's been driven by Israel to change the
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Speaker 6: regime in Iran?
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Speaker 2: Why are we all taxpayers forced to subsidize the ABC
24:02
Speaker 2: and this sick anti Israel conspiracy theorizing bone overrated ABC mediocrity,
24:07
Speaker 2: offering zero evidence for his wild claims. But to Penny
24:12
Speaker 2: Wong has promised the Foreign Minister has also been anti
24:15
Speaker 2: Israel for a long time, so it must have killed
24:17
Speaker 2: her to have to join the Prime Minister to back
24:19
Speaker 2: this attack on Iran.
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Speaker 1: But the strain is showing. It seems one really does
24:26
Speaker 1: think it's all a terrible thing, because here she is
24:28
Speaker 1: imagining Iranians need sympathy.
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Speaker 7: I want to say some make some comments directed at
24:35
Speaker 7: the Australian Iranian community at this time.
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Speaker 6: My thoughts are with you.
24:40
Speaker 5: We recognize this is a distressing time for so many.
24:43
Speaker 1: Distressing time.
24:45
Speaker 2: In fact, the Iranians I saw in our streets yesterday
24:48
Speaker 2: seem absolutely delighted by this war, and unlike pro Palestinian
24:53
Speaker 2: Greens protesters, they also flew the flags of other countries
24:56
Speaker 2: which are friends of freedom Australia and Israel. Joining me
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Speaker 2: is Iranian freedom activist and sociologists. Doctor Samaya Kennie, Samaria Cannie,
25:08
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. Is what is
25:10
Speaker 2: the reaction of Iranians here been to the death of
25:14
Speaker 2: the Aetolia and the US attacks.
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Speaker 7: Joy, this belief that it finally happened, but mainly joy
25:25
Speaker 7: and they're ecstatic. We were on the streets yesterday in Melbourne, Sydney,
25:31
Speaker 7: Brisbane here just celebrating the death of the dictator, the
25:36
Speaker 7: Hitler of our time basically, and this is not just
25:40
Speaker 7: in Australia. Around the world, including in Iran, people are
25:46
Speaker 7: chanting and celebrating. They even went to the sadness of
25:50
Speaker 7: this is that those who lost their lives for freedom
25:53
Speaker 7: of Iran are not here to see this moment. But
25:58
Speaker 7: what people did us to go to the houses of
26:01
Speaker 7: those who lost their family members in during the protests
26:05
Speaker 7: a month ago and celebrated in front of their houses joyfully.
26:10
Speaker 7: So it has been the same in Australia. We went
26:13
Speaker 7: to the streets and danced and just popped up in
26:16
Speaker 7: Champagnes and enjoyed this moment. But we're also careful that
26:22
Speaker 7: this is not the end of it. This is just
26:24
Speaker 7: the beginning.
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Speaker 2: What do you say then, to the anti Israeli, anti
26:29
Speaker 2: American protests here and the Greens and all that this
26:33
Speaker 2: is terrible, The war should stop.
26:34
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, it's a legal war. It's terrible.
26:41
Speaker 7: Yes, So as you've seen, we have American and Israeli
26:47
Speaker 7: flags in most of our protests to not just appreciate
26:51
Speaker 7: what the leaders of the countries are doing, what President
26:55
Speaker 7: Donald Trump is doing, because we know he's risking a
26:59
Speaker 7: lot doing this, but he is also this will be
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Speaker 7: his legacy. People will thank him for this in five
27:06
Speaker 7: years times, in ten years time. But here's the message
27:11
Speaker 7: from Iranians to the Green, the woke, the left, the
27:16
Speaker 7: Democrats that we needed this. This is a humanitarian aid.
27:21
Speaker 7: This is a rescue mission for Iranians who've been in
27:24
Speaker 7: war with the regime for forty seven years. So Iranians
27:29
Speaker 7: asked for this. We would just love them to spare
27:33
Speaker 7: us from their anti anti war movements and anti war rhetoric.
27:39
Speaker 7: This is not a war on Iran or Iranians. If
27:43
Speaker 7: it is a war, it is a war with a
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Speaker 7: dictatorship with a murderous regime that has taken ninety two
27:50
Speaker 7: millions Iranians hostage and also has terrorized the region, region
27:56
Speaker 7: and also other countries including Australia. We had confirmed, we
28:03
Speaker 7: had confirmation that two attacks were carried out by this
28:08
Speaker 7: regime on Australian soil, so helping Iranians to finally get
28:15
Speaker 7: rid of this regime, this murderous regime. Is not a war,
28:18
Speaker 7: it's a humanitarian aid, it's a rescue mission.
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Speaker 2: But while every Iranian I've seen in the streets have
28:27
Speaker 2: been celebrating this, as you say, and I've seen it
28:32
Speaker 2: in Europe, seen in America, I've seen in Australia. That said,
28:35
Speaker 2: I have also seen at least four Islamic centers in
28:39
Speaker 2: Australia holding ceremonies, mourning ceremonies for the Ayatola, a company
28:49
Speaker 2: saying you know, it's a martyr and this is terrible.
28:53
Speaker 2: There are some Iranians here that are unhappy with this out.
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Speaker 7: They unhappy with the murderer of the Iatola, or unhappy
29:06
Speaker 7: with the fact that some Islamists are mourning for the Ayatola,
29:12
Speaker 7: for the hitler of our time. Well, as Prime Minister
29:17
Speaker 7: mentioned yesterday, no one is mourning for this hitler, for
29:20
Speaker 7: this murderer. And if there are people who are doing that,
29:25
Speaker 7: they're still the brainwashed and those who've been the victims
29:32
Speaker 7: of the soft war carried out by the regime, spending
29:35
Speaker 7: our oil money on brainwashing people to believe that they
29:39
Speaker 7: are the saviors of the world, the saviors of the
29:44
Speaker 7: margin marginalized, while they are killing their own people. Forty
29:49
Speaker 7: three thousand Iranians were killed on two nights for protesting
29:53
Speaker 7: for freedom, barehandedly, just protesting the regime, and the regime
29:58
Speaker 7: just easily killed forty thous and three in two nights.
30:03
Speaker 7: That kind of a regime is not there to save anyone,
30:07
Speaker 7: but to murder.
30:08
Speaker 2: Now, Donald Trump is calling an iranianscenout, rise and topple
30:12
Speaker 2: the regime. But I just wonder how they can do that.
30:16
Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen in the last two months. If
30:18
Speaker 2: they try the be massacred, I don't know what. What
30:23
Speaker 2: do you think is going to happen?
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Speaker 7: I believe based on what we heard from President Trump's
30:33
Speaker 7: message on Saturday, he pointed out that this regime will
30:39
Speaker 7: be gone soon, but he also asked people of Iran
30:42
Speaker 7: to stay at home, not to go outside because it
30:46
Speaker 7: is dangerous outside, and wait for the moment to come
30:50
Speaker 7: out and take the take your country back. The government
30:54
Speaker 7: is yours. So I'm hoping that message still is the same,
30:59
Speaker 7: because he has mentioned anything. There hasn't been a new
31:03
Speaker 7: message out to ask people to come up now and
31:07
Speaker 7: also as a Crown Prince, Razapahlavi mentioned again following President Trump,
31:12
Speaker 7: the people will have to stay at home, stay safe
31:15
Speaker 7: for now until the message comes from him as well
31:19
Speaker 7: to to just take to the streets and take the government,
31:23
Speaker 7: take the country back.
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Speaker 1: But I'm not sure how the people are going to
31:27
Speaker 1: take that back. I suspect.
31:29
Speaker 2: Well, look, the man that now seems most in charge
31:35
Speaker 2: of those who are left seems to be Ali Larry Johnny.
31:38
Speaker 2: He's the Secretary of the Supreme National Security Council. Pretty
31:42
Speaker 2: hardline the kind of guy it seems to me. I mean,
31:44
Speaker 2: doesn't it worry you that he probably has the power
31:48
Speaker 2: to suppress any revolt even now and keep this what's
31:54
Speaker 2: left of the regime still in power.
31:57
Speaker 7: I do have an analogy here.
32:00
Speaker 6: This This is a can.
32:04
Speaker 7: Tumor, the cancerous tumor being Alikhmenae. He's been surgically taken out.
32:11
Speaker 7: Now this is the chemo treatment. At this stage, we
32:16
Speaker 7: are hoping that the war goes on so long that
32:19
Speaker 7: the whole that all the cells are taken out of
32:22
Speaker 7: the country, and one of the biggest cells is yes,
32:26
Speaker 7: Ali Lair Johnny as well as Mastaba Alikamene's son. We
32:30
Speaker 7: are worried about those two. Yes, they're capable of murdering people.
32:34
Speaker 7: What we're hoping is that those are also the next
32:38
Speaker 7: targets of the United States and Israel. By taking down
32:43
Speaker 7: as many heads as possible, as many officials as possible,
32:47
Speaker 7: we're hoping the base crumbles and those who have been
32:52
Speaker 7: supporting this regime start to realize that they cannot no
32:57
Speaker 7: longer continue killing people because now they their heads are gone.
33:01
Speaker 7: So we're hoping the vulnerability of the situation helps the
33:06
Speaker 7: people to come back outside and take the country back.
33:11
Speaker 7: And until we know that Crown Prince Zapahlavi is back
33:17
Speaker 7: in Iran on the soil of Iran, we are not
33:22
Speaker 7: sure yet if this regime has fallen. So that's the
33:27
Speaker 7: moment we can start genuinely celebrate the fall of a
33:32
Speaker 7: murderous regime after forty seven years, and we're hoping we
33:36
Speaker 7: can get to that point by the help of President
33:39
Speaker 7: Donald Trump as well as Israel. The chemo treatment needs
33:45
Speaker 7: to go on until all the cells are.
33:48
Speaker 6: Gone and killed.
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Speaker 1: So Maya Khannie thank you so much, indeed for your time.
33:56
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me again.
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Speaker 2: Break how we're going to pay for this war and
34:02
Speaker 2: who is going to win it? Now, this war is
34:09
Speaker 2: already affecting us. More than a thousand Australias have been
34:12
Speaker 2: stranded overseas after the airport's in the bar and Katara
34:15
Speaker 2: force shut, and all prices have already gone up ten percent.
34:18
Speaker 2: And that's going to work out the price for risers
34:20
Speaker 2: of ten cents a liter in a week or so,
34:23
Speaker 2: with more expected. Still, the world is going to change
34:26
Speaker 2: dramatically when this is over. And joining me again at
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Speaker 2: last is the country's sop foreign affairs riter Greg Sheridan
34:32
Speaker 2: will again be a regular on this show all through
34:35
Speaker 2: the year. Greg, great to see you again. First of all,
34:39
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister, our prime minister is statement about this
34:44
Speaker 2: war said he backed the America's attack on Iran's nuclear program.
34:48
Speaker 2: He did not say he backed the assassination of Aroun's
34:50
Speaker 2: The Preme Leader did not say he backed Israel's bombing
34:54
Speaker 2: its involvement.
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Speaker 8: Your response, Andrew, it is indeed great to be back
35:00
Speaker 8: with you after a little absence, and my life is
35:03
Speaker 8: enriched as a result. Look, I think the Albanezi government
35:08
Speaker 8: has done pretty well with that statement and its associated statements. Look,
35:11
Speaker 8: it's not it's not a perfect statement, but it's not
35:15
Speaker 8: perhaps the statement I would have written. But we don't
35:17
Speaker 8: want to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
35:19
Speaker 8: When you see how bad Antonio Guterres's response is and
35:24
Speaker 8: how bad the response of many left of center governments
35:27
Speaker 8: around the world is. Look, the bottom line is, when
35:31
Speaker 8: faced with a war between the US and Israel on
35:33
Speaker 8: one hand and I ran on the other, the Albanza
35:36
Speaker 8: government worked out which side was the right side. Now
35:39
Speaker 8: it's not absolutely rocket science, but still, you know, good
35:43
Speaker 8: on them forgetting that much right.
35:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the right side the US side, we don't
35:50
Speaker 2: know if it's on israel side that's left missing. A
35:54
Speaker 2: run is an ally or an asset of China and Russia.
35:59
Speaker 2: It sells thirteen percent of the oil that China gets
36:02
Speaker 2: both ship It is also sent, as you know, Russian
36:05
Speaker 2: drones for its war and Ukraine have been highly effective
36:08
Speaker 2: in killing Ukrainian civilians. What signal does this war now
36:13
Speaker 2: in Iran send those two countries.
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Speaker 8: That's a terrific question, and it's very complex and mixed.
36:21
Speaker 8: On the one hand, it shows America is willing to act.
36:24
Speaker 8: We're really willing to take tough and dangerous action that
36:28
Speaker 8: always sobers dictators. You know, the dictators laughed at Jimmy Carter.
36:33
Speaker 8: But the Iranians released the American hostages the minute Ronald
36:36
Speaker 8: Reagan came into offers because they were scared of Ronald Reagan.
36:40
Speaker 8: And it's good that they're scared of Donald Trump. Having
36:43
Speaker 8: said that, if this works out badly, you know, they
36:48
Speaker 8: may come to the view that America is weakened. And
36:50
Speaker 8: then this practical point that Barnaby Joyce of all people made,
36:56
Speaker 8: the West, including even America, does not produce anywhere near
37:00
Speaker 8: enough armaments. China hasn't had to fire a single weapon
37:06
Speaker 8: in anger anywhere, and America is using up a huge
37:11
Speaker 8: portion of its arsenal. Now the answer is Western nations,
37:14
Speaker 8: the United States, Western Europe and Australia have to get
37:17
Speaker 8: cracking at producing a lot more munitions. But even the
37:21
Speaker 8: US is not yet doing this, and it will take
37:24
Speaker 8: them time to replenish this arsenal. But overall it's a
37:28
Speaker 8: big net loss for China and Russia.
37:33
Speaker 2: And the call for Iranians to rise up and take
37:38
Speaker 2: charge top of the regime, I.
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Speaker 1: Don't see it happen in greg.
37:43
Speaker 8: No well, Andrew, I want everyone to know that I
37:47
Speaker 8: wrote tomorrow's column before I saw your splendid editorial at
37:50
Speaker 8: the top of this show, because I agree with you
37:53
Speaker 8: absolutely that I don't think Donald Trump really believes he
37:57
Speaker 8: can bring democracy to Iran. What he wants is a
38:02
Speaker 8: dictator I mean, democracy will be wonderful, of course, but
38:04
Speaker 8: what he really wants is a dictatorship which doesn't murder
38:08
Speaker 8: its own people in huge numbers, doesn't seek nuclear weapons,
38:12
Speaker 8: and stops sponsoring terrorism all through the Middle East and
38:16
Speaker 8: all around the world. Now, those are actually pretty reasonable
38:19
Speaker 8: demands for an American administration to make of an Iranian government. Now,
38:26
Speaker 8: even securing that much will be very, very, very difficult.
38:31
Speaker 8: I do think calling on people to rise up imposes
38:36
Speaker 8: some kind of moral burden on you, because you are
38:39
Speaker 8: calling on them to spend their lives basically. On the
38:42
Speaker 8: other hand, the Iranian people are so courageous they haven't
38:46
Speaker 8: needed the cause of an American president to get them
38:49
Speaker 8: out into the streets. They plainly that. You know, the
38:52
Speaker 8: international left has a lot of sympathy for the Iranian government,
38:55
Speaker 8: but one group of people who hate and despise the
38:58
Speaker 8: Iranian government are the Iranian people. Who pay for it
39:02
Speaker 8: with their own lives and their blood in the streets
39:05
Speaker 8: of Iran.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 2: Well, we must point out I don't think that Iran
39:11
Speaker 2: has had a fully full democracy ever in its history.
39:18
Speaker 2: We'll complete with all the trappings of freedom that we expect,
39:21
Speaker 2: like a free press. It's always been limited in that regard.
39:24
Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan, thank you so much for your time. Really appreciated.
39:28
Speaker 2: I'm sorry it's truncated because of the material we had
39:31
Speaker 2: at the top. After the break, the Liberals changed leader,
39:35
Speaker 2: but it's Pauling Hansen who's laughing. The Liberals have a
39:43
Speaker 2: new leader, but their hell continues. Two poles today, the
39:47
Speaker 2: red Bridge Pole has a Labor vote falling two points,
39:50
Speaker 2: all of it going to one nation now up to
39:52
Speaker 2: twenty eight percent, way out of the Coalition stuck on
39:55
Speaker 2: a disastrous nineteen percent. A news poll just under line
40:00
Speaker 2: that in the polls at least one nation is now
40:02
Speaker 2: Labour's main opposition.
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Speaker 1: This pole has.
40:06
Speaker 2: Labour vote for into the same level thirty two percent.
40:09
Speaker 2: One nations steady on twenty seven and the Coalition are
40:12
Speaker 2: largely but still just twenty percent. Any which way you
40:15
Speaker 2: cut it, the Coalition isn't cutting through. I think it's
40:18
Speaker 2: performing much better, more aggressive, but as leadership hopefully. Andrew
40:23
Speaker 2: Hasey today asked the government the sharpest question, had the
40:26
Speaker 2: Prime Minister jumping.
40:28
Speaker 9: Given the war in the Middle East and the suspension
40:30
Speaker 9: of air travel following the air strikes on Iran? Has
40:34
Speaker 9: the government halted its plan to bring home ISO sympathizers
40:37
Speaker 9: and will the government now prioritize bringing home law abiding
40:40
Speaker 9: Australian citizens at risk from the conflict?
40:43
Speaker 7: Prime Minister has the pall nicely the premise of the
40:47
Speaker 7: question is wrong.
40:50
Speaker 2: Joining me and Michael Kroger for I'm a president of
40:52
Speaker 2: the Victorian Liberals and Steve Conroy, former Lavy senator, cabinet
40:56
Speaker 2: minister and back again Steve, what did these poles tell
40:59
Speaker 2: you about where the Liberals are and why your labor
41:03
Speaker 2: is because it is losing ground as well.
41:06
Speaker 3: Well.
41:07
Speaker 10: Look, I mean, firstly, I think that the new front
41:09
Speaker 10: bench of Angus Taylor is a lot sharper and it's
41:13
Speaker 10: going to be sharper in a way that really is
41:15
Speaker 10: pointed on national security and pointed on economic debate. So
41:19
Speaker 10: I think that's a big plus for the opposition.
41:24
Speaker 1: But there were two.
41:25
Speaker 10: Poles that came out today both almost identical in terms
41:28
Speaker 10: of primaries, and then you've got to make some calculations
41:31
Speaker 10: about two pps. But the interesting part that it was
41:35
Speaker 10: always perplexed me is where of one nation getting their
41:38
Speaker 10: votes from in a geographic sense, and the Red Ridge
41:43
Speaker 10: Pole broke down where the one nation vote is concentrated
41:49
Speaker 10: and it looks at basically a metropolitan city vote versus
41:56
Speaker 10: a regional and rural vote. And what was the most
42:00
Speaker 10: interesting part of that breakdown was that Labor is still
42:04
Speaker 10: winning strongly in all of the metropolitan area I think
42:08
Speaker 10: was a sixty forty whereas one nation we're winning fifty
42:13
Speaker 10: three forty seven in those rural and regional So what
42:17
Speaker 10: I think you're seeing is, yes, Labor are losing some votes,
42:20
Speaker 10: but not in places that will necessarily cost its seats.
42:25
Speaker 10: If we're only on twenty six percent in farest Thing
42:29
Speaker 10: and suddenly we're on twenty percent in Farah, it doesn't
42:32
Speaker 10: make any difference to the result or to Labour's parliamentary major.
42:37
Speaker 2: Very good point. Well, that raises this question, Michael. This
42:43
Speaker 2: raises this question for me. Are we going to a
42:46
Speaker 2: future where the Liberals have to focus on winning seats
42:50
Speaker 2: in the city from Labor and one nation. It will
42:54
Speaker 2: have to win the seats in the country and that
42:57
Speaker 2: will be the new coalition, not the Liberals and the Nationals.
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Speaker 1: No, I don't think to enter.
43:04
Speaker 11: I think the coalition, particularly Liberal Party, has to understand
43:08
Speaker 11: something which over the last four or five years they've
43:10
Speaker 11: failed to understand, which is the dramatic change in thinking
43:15
Speaker 11: of a lot of people in Western countries. And that's
43:18
Speaker 11: this that the working middle class have lost confidence and
43:24
Speaker 11: trust in the institutions. They don't trust government, they don't
43:29
Speaker 11: trust big business. That's a worldwide phenomenon. Look what's happened
43:33
Speaker 11: to last for off years. They think they were misled
43:35
Speaker 11: over COVID. The governments were meant to provide housing. They
43:39
Speaker 11: were told that mess immigration was a wonderful thing for
43:42
Speaker 11: our country. They were told that debt was nothing to
43:45
Speaker 11: worry about. They were told that power prices would be
43:48
Speaker 11: dramatically reduced. They seem to be losing on every They
43:53
Speaker 11: told that globalization was a wonderful thing, nothing to worry about.
43:57
Speaker 11: With COVID, you've got to stay at home, lockdowns, blah blah.
44:00
Speaker 11: We said, a lot of businesses break. In other words,
44:02
Speaker 11: there's a whole lot of these issues, Andrew, where the
44:04
Speaker 11: public think our leaders have either completely betrayed us or
44:08
Speaker 11: they have no idea what they're doing, and we have
44:10
Speaker 11: to take things into our own hands now, which is
44:13
Speaker 11: why the one nation vote has exploded. It's because people
44:16
Speaker 11: don't trust the elites. They don't trust the universities, they
44:19
Speaker 11: don't trust the ABC, the arts establishment, they don't trust
44:23
Speaker 11: big business. And that's what the Liberal Party has to understand.
44:26
Speaker 1: Andrew.
44:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know that the way it's formulated
44:32
Speaker 2: that it can win back that trust. If it is
44:35
Speaker 2: as dar as you say, I think it's going to
44:38
Speaker 2: absolutely take a she lacking before there's any hope, if
44:42
Speaker 2: there's ever going to be hoped.
44:43
Speaker 1: Well, it's more than a challenge. I think it's a
44:46
Speaker 1: death sentence. Stephen. I think before I've run out of time,
44:50
Speaker 1: we've got to ask you this. Go ahead, go Steve now.
44:54
Speaker 10: Said, the three key tests come up in the next
44:57
Speaker 10: few weeks. You've got the South Australian state election, You've
45:00
Speaker 10: got Farah and you've got Nepean the state seat in Victoria.
45:06
Speaker 1: All three of those are.
45:07
Speaker 10: Going to give you a real look at whether one
45:09
Speaker 10: nation is a real phenomenon. And that those people who
45:13
Speaker 10: deserted the Liberal Party are stuck now as in stuck
45:17
Speaker 10: to the One Nation, or they're just expressing their frustration
45:21
Speaker 10: and anger of the poor performance of the Dutton opposition
45:26
Speaker 10: and initially the Lee opposition. So I think the three
45:29
Speaker 10: really important tests about one nation versus Liberal nationals coming up.
45:38
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you, and I think it'll be
45:39
Speaker 2: the biggest test for one nation above far beyond the
45:42
Speaker 2: other part is if it flops, the air could go
45:45
Speaker 2: out of that balloon. Swiftly Michael the Prime Minister backing
45:51
Speaker 2: the US attack in Iran but saying nothing about Israel's attack,
45:54
Speaker 2: Penny Wong saying this is a difficult day for Iranians
45:58
Speaker 2: here when they're actually celebrated in the street urging the
46:01
Speaker 2: escalation as well.
46:03
Speaker 1: What'd you make of all that?
46:06
Speaker 11: Yeah, Well, as Greg Sheridan said, it's better than nothing.
46:08
Speaker 11: But not to mention Israel in the Prime Minister's statement
46:12
Speaker 11: was terrible. I mean terrible. I mean, hello, it's an
46:15
Speaker 11: American Israeli attack on Iran. The bottom line here is
46:19
Speaker 11: is Andrew, is that Trump is actually trying to end
46:20
Speaker 11: a war. He's not starting a war. He's trying to
46:23
Speaker 11: end a war is Iran. I have been at war
46:27
Speaker 11: with Israel for four decades. That's what's happening here. Ever
46:31
Speaker 11: since the Ayatolla Khameni came to power in nineteen seventy nine,
46:35
Speaker 11: this war has been going against the Jewish state and
46:38
Speaker 11: other countries in the West through proxies and through agents, etc.
46:44
Speaker 11: That's what he's trying to do here. And look, it's
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Speaker 11: better than nothing that Albanzey said that it's better than
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Speaker 11: the British and the French. But boy, if we're if
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Speaker 11: in our country, we've still got people at mosques who
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Speaker 11: are celebrating the martyrdom of the laid toler Camani. Boy,
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Speaker 11: we've got some big problems in Australia.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Steve Conroy, I've got a minute left.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, Look, I particularly on that last one on aggress Michael.
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Speaker 10: I think it's absolutely sick that people are celebrating the
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Speaker 10: death of someone who's an identified supporter of worldwide terrorism,
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Speaker 10: who recently directly interfered with Australia's civil society by encouraging
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Speaker 10: and paying people to commun atrocities against Jewish synagogues and
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Speaker 10: cars and restaurants and that sort of thing. That was
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Speaker 10: going on, and to celebrate the passing really does show
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Speaker 10: that there is an inherent, g hardiest mentality that we
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Speaker 10: must confront. We cannot look the other way when people
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Speaker 10: are promoting support for that sort of worldwide terrorist network.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but what does confront mean, Michael? I mean, what
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Speaker 1: do you do. They're going to celebrate it. What do
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Speaker 1: you do?
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Speaker 11: Well, you have to keep clamping down in Islamic extremism.
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Speaker 1: That's what you have to do.
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Speaker 11: You have to do what the Liberal Party said in
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Speaker 11: that draft policy, which was we don't want people coming
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Speaker 11: from Islamis terror zones coming into this country. We need
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Speaker 11: to send home the people from Gaza. We need to
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Speaker 11: stop the isis brides coming to this country. I mean,
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Speaker 11: you can't have the Islamisation of Australia.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's what.
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Speaker 11: You've got to stop. And were otherwise otherwise will go
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Speaker 11: the way of Britain or France Andrew, you know, there are.
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Speaker 1: Very his things them.
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Speaker 2: None of them will say they are extremists, right, they
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Speaker 2: won't say that, and they wouldn't have been flagged as extremists.
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Speaker 1: That is the issue.
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Speaker 2: Michael Krogs, even Conroy, thank you so much. Up next,
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Speaker 2: Sherry Markson couldnt