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epyon5... Shout it from the Rooftop · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: This is Jess Weixler and Jennifer Prediger.
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  Speaker 2: And you're listening to Movie Meltdown. This episode is rated
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  Speaker 2: M for Misty. Yes, that's right, this is a Misty episode,
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  Speaker 2: so it will be laced with profanity even more than usual.
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  Speaker 2: If you're not comfortable with this level of profanity, perhaps
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  Speaker 2: this isn't the episode for you. But we have many
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  Speaker 2: other episodes to choose from that do not feature Misty,
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  Speaker 2: and will probably be far less offensive. Okay, maybe. With
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  Speaker 2: that having been said, on with the show.
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  Speaker 3: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million.
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  Speaker 4: Kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 3: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 6: I am Misty.
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  Speaker 5: And we are coming to you live via digital recording
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  Speaker 5: from the outskirts of Wizard World.
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  Speaker 6: From the roof.
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  Speaker 5: Are we?
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  Speaker 6: We're on a roof.
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  Speaker 2: The roof?
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  Speaker 6: It's on fire.
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  Speaker 5: Who's your favorite baseball player?
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  Speaker 2: Huh?
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  Speaker 5: Roof.
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  Speaker 2: Never mind.
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  Speaker 6: Roof.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway. The outskirts of Wizard World here in Louisville.
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  Speaker 4: So, we've had quite a day.
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  Speaker 6: Been a lot of people. My favorite.
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  Speaker 5: You do like people.
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  Speaker 6: That was sarcasm.
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  Speaker 5: You are a people person.
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  Speaker 6: I am nothing if not... Yeah, I fucking hate people.
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  Speaker 5: Sunny disposition.
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  Speaker 6: They're my least favorite of all things. If there just
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  Speaker 6: be less people in the world, I'd be a little
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  Speaker 6: bit happier.
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  Speaker 5: I was surprised today, though. Everybody seemed, like, friendly.
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  Speaker 7: It was.
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  Speaker 5: Ugh, nauseating. It was disturbing. I was like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not used to dealing with, like, friendly people.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know. That kid that kept trying to hand
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  Speaker 6: me his granola.
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  Speaker 5: What was that about?
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  Speaker 6: I was very creeped out by that. I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 6: that is goo covered granola. You get that out of
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  Speaker 6: my face.
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  Speaker 4: He's a kid.
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  Speaker 5: They're always covered in goo and food. That's the way
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  Speaker 5: they come out.
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  Speaker 6: That's why I have none of those. Kids are the worst.
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  Speaker 8: But he could sense just how much you are a
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  Speaker 8: kid person and he wanted to like bond with you.
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  Speaker 6: Ugh. Kids. He was distracting me from the glory and
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  Speaker 6: wonder of John Barrowman and I was not at all
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  Speaker 6: pleased with that.
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  Speaker 5: You did get to see your favorite person. He sang.
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  Speaker 6: He was delightful.
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  Speaker 5: He did bust into a song. He is a complete
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  Speaker 5: entertainment package all in one dude.
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  Speaker 6: He's the real motherfucking deal, y'all.
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  Speaker 5: He kind of is. And by the end, I was
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  Speaker 5: just like... You were won over, weren't you?
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  Speaker 6: You went into this with no idea who John Barrowman was.
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  Speaker 6: John Barrowman's there. I must go stare at him. And
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  Speaker 6: you're like, who are you?
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't watch those shows.
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  Speaker 6: I had to tell you like three times at least
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  Speaker 6: a couple of the shows he was on. And you
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  Speaker 6: were still like, oh.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm like, we're going to go.
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  Speaker 6: See him so I can stare at his wonder and glory.
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  Speaker 5: And you're like, oh. I still don't watch those shows,
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  Speaker 5: but all right.
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  Speaker 6: And were you not completely just like, this guy's pretty awesome?
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, he is quite an entertaining character, that John Bear.
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  Speaker 6: He's fascinating.
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  Speaker 8: And by the end, I was like, whatever that goofy
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  Speaker 8: greatest show ever, greatest night ever, that Neil Patrick Harris nonsense.
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  Speaker 8: Don't get me wrong, Neil Patrick Harris is freaking awesome,
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  Speaker 8: but even he can't save that show. I keep seeing it,
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  Speaker 8: and I'm just like, what?
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  Speaker 5: This format?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You're struggling to try to bring back that format anyway.
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  Speaker 6: I've never watched this show.
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  Speaker 8: It's like a variety show, only it's a randomness variety.
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  Speaker 8: There's a whole bunch of craziness that goes on, but
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  Speaker 8: it's not really all that entertaining. It's like the excitement
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  Speaker 8: that you get from network television. And so it's kind
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  Speaker 8: of that. And then I'm watching him run around the
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  Speaker 8: stage there and sing a song and do.
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  Speaker 5: It's almost blue humor for some kids in the audience.
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  Speaker 8: And I was just kind of like, this is what
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  Speaker 8: you need. Like, just hand this guy a microphone and
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  Speaker 8: you're all set.
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  Speaker 5: He is so delightful. He is an entertainment package all
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  Speaker 5: rolled into one dude.
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  Speaker 2: He is.
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  Speaker 6: That was the main reason I wanted to come, just
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  Speaker 6: to come stare at him. As previously posted on Facebook,
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  Speaker 6: that was my main goal of today, was to just
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  Speaker 6: go stare awkwardly at John Barrowman from a safe distance.
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  Speaker 5: It's not creepy at all.
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  Speaker 6: Not creepy at all.
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  Speaker 8: But we also then rounded it out with equally as
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  Speaker 8: entertaining a variety show, the Bruce Campbell show.
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  Speaker 6: He is quite a something.
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  Speaker 8: He is, again, it's like people not of this time. Like,
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  Speaker 8: he's just doing a comedy bit from vaudeville.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: That little girl stole a thunder, though.
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  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure. Well, I mean, all of it was,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, just him anyway. Like, he gets up on stage.
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  Speaker 8: He doesn't really bother to do a Q & A.
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  Speaker 5: He doesn't talk about the project he's there to promote,
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  Speaker 5: I'm assuming.
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  Speaker 6: He is having no part of the shenanigans of lines.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's for squares.
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  Speaker 4: Come on now.
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  Speaker 6: Squares. When you have a general Q & A, you
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  Speaker 6: usually have people that line up with a microphone. I
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  Speaker 6: guess I don't go to any Q & As. I'm
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  Speaker 6: assuming that's a general.
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  Speaker 5: That's kind of the way it works, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And he's like, no, fuck that mess. He didn't say that.
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  Speaker 5: He said, it's for squares.
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  Speaker 6: He did, because he said squares quite a few times.
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  Speaker 5: Because he doesn't like squares.
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  Speaker 6: So he was just randomly calling on people and making
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  Speaker 6: fun of their questions. It was quite hilarious.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, the whole thing was, if you have a question,
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  Speaker 8: just line up to get abused. Because he was just...
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  Speaker 8: But not like in a mean way. If it were
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  Speaker 8: anybody other than Bruce Campbell, I'd be like, oh, that
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  Speaker 8: guy's a dick.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm just like... But it's Bruce Campbell. He's hilarious.
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  Speaker 6: Who's the first girl to ask the first question? He's like,
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  Speaker 6: that's a lame question.
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  Speaker 5: There are no bad questions, except for this lady right here, obviously.
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  Speaker 6: Asking Bruce Campbell where he buys his shoes is obviously
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  Speaker 6: not going to get you any brownie points.
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  Speaker 8: I liked the randomness of some of them, and he
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  Speaker 8: just didn't even seem amused with that.
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  Speaker 5: He does give money away, though, so if you go
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  Speaker 5: to his shows, he will hand you cash.
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  Speaker 6: Like a dollar.
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  Speaker 4: Like a dollar.
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  Speaker 5: But cold, hard cash dollars. that little girl totally stole
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  Speaker 5: his thing.
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  Speaker 8: So by the end he brings up all these cosplay
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  Speaker 8: people started with a bunch of ash and then it
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  Speaker 8: just became a bunch of whoever.
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  Speaker 6: Well there was the best ash contest with the half ash.
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  Speaker 5: Didn't we see that at that bar that one night?
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  Speaker 5: Oh no wait we don't go to bars.
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  Speaker 6: Fuck a bar.
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  Speaker 5: This is the closest thing we get to a Best
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  Speaker 5: Ash contest. So, yeah. Some of them are pretty sorry. Again,
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  Speaker 5: I was immediately a sucker for Bondage Girl, and I
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  Speaker 5: didn't even know.
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  Speaker 4: About the bondage tie-in yet.
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  Speaker 6: She was pretty adorable.
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  Speaker 5: Just, yeah, adorable girls.
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  Speaker 6: Chicks who cosplay as badass dudes, you can't fight that.
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  Speaker 6: I've seen so many chicks cosplay as, like, Castiel from Supernatural,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm like, I'm not into chicks, but that's pretty hot.
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  Speaker 5: I'm telling you. Bondage Ash was kind of hot.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, because everybody had their, like, harness area, their harness
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  Speaker 6: things on, their strappy-doos or what have you. And she
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  Speaker 6: got hurt because everybody else was like, oh, I got mine.
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  Speaker 6: Mine's a horse bridle.
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  Speaker 5: Mine was from a Cadillac Escalade.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think that's a real car.
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  Speaker 5: It's the wrong brand of factory.
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  Speaker 6: I got mine at the bondage store.
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  Speaker 5: He walked over to her and she just started shaking
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  Speaker 5: her head like, don't ask me. Don't ask me. You
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  Speaker 5: don't want me to tell you.
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  Speaker 6: She was so cute.
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  Speaker 5: She was pretty adorable. Bondage ash. That's the way to go.
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  Speaker 6: Hell yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Which is why I voted for her.
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  Speaker 4: And she won.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 6: She won. I think everybody in there was like, woo!
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  Speaker 8: I mean, cute chicks in bondage gear. That's who's going
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  Speaker 8: to win the popularity contest.
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  Speaker 4: Come on now.
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  Speaker 6: Not the chunky dude with his nipple hanging out.
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  Speaker 5: That's not what nobody's looking for.
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  Speaker 6: That is not on my voting register right there.
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  Speaker 8: But the only thing possibly cuter than Bondi Jash was as.
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  Speaker 5: He brings up all the rest of these people.
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  Speaker 6: To put on a performance of their cosplay.
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  Speaker 5: Their performances.
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  Speaker 8: He kept trying to get them that they had talent
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  Speaker 8: and see who had talent amongst the people.
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  Speaker 6: And not just wear their outfit with no like.
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  Speaker 5: Just standing around.
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  Speaker 6: There was what Kung Fu Fury was there. There was
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  Speaker 6: some kind of Kung Fu other guy who had no
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  Speaker 6: relation to Kung Fu Fury. There was Mario.
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  Speaker 5: There was a bad Mario.
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  Speaker 6: What else was there? One chick from Archer who was.
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  Speaker 5: He barely let her squeak in.
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  Speaker 6: And the cutest of all.
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  Speaker 5: She just came wandering up on stage. And that became
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  Speaker 5: her move. Her finishing move. How old are we thinking?
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  Speaker 5: Four at most. Three or four. This little girl in a.
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  Speaker 8: Not even like a cosplay. It's just like a dress
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  Speaker 8: that had Belle on it.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't even know if it was a Halloween.
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  Speaker 4: Was it officially?
• 8:47
  Speaker 5: It just looked like something she bought at the Disney store.
• 8:49
  Speaker 6: Elsa.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they're all. The princesses are all running together into
• 8:54
  Speaker 5: one big thing now. There's so many princesses.
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  Speaker 6: The first thing that won me over was when he
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  Speaker 6: goes to sit by her because she's a tiny little tot.
• 9:00
  Speaker 6: So he goes to sit by her so he can
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  Speaker 6: be more on her level and she just proceeds to
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  Speaker 6: sit next to him like it's story time.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and she was following his lead. She was like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: it's time to sit down.
• 9:09
  Speaker 6: Okay. Uncle Bruce is going to tell her a story.
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  Speaker 5: He's going to tell me about Old Spice or something.
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  Speaker 6: Delightful times. And she was just all over the place.
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  Speaker 8: She was just like, he would go, okay, and he'd
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  Speaker 8: go back to talk to these people and then like
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  Speaker 8: He'd be midway into a conversation with them and she
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  Speaker 8: would just.
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  Speaker 5: Go wandering past them.
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  Speaker 6: Skipping by.
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  Speaker 8: Just back and forth across the stage, completely oblivious as
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  Speaker 8: to the entire audience full of people and the fact
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  Speaker 8: that he's trying to conduct a show.
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  Speaker 6: Even though I don't like kids as previously stated, she
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  Speaker 6: was pretty fucking adorable.
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  Speaker 5: She was pretty adorable.
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  Speaker 8: So again, that, you know, by the end I was like,
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  Speaker 8: is he even going to bother to get applause for
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  Speaker 8: the rest of these poor bastards?
• 9:44
  Speaker 4: Cause, No.
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  Speaker 6: She had wandered off stage by that point.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she was just.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, it doesn't matter.
• 9:50
  Speaker 8: All he has to do is throw the option out
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  Speaker 8: there and she's going to win, which, of course, she
• 9:53
  Speaker 8: did because she's awesome.
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  Speaker 6: And then she had to get the money, which is
• 9:56
  Speaker 6: pretty damn ridiculous, too.
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  Speaker 5: It does show you the... impact, though.
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  Speaker 8: Not that he addressed evil dead much at all during
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  Speaker 8: this process, but the people in front of us who
• 10:07
  Speaker 8: had a whole litter of kids. I don't think it
• 10:11
  Speaker 8: was the one trying to hand you food, but one
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  Speaker 8: of the other ones, while he started talking, she's like,
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  Speaker 8: be quiet, Ash. I swear to God, she referred to
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  Speaker 8: him by name. He wasn't wearing a costume. They named
• 10:21
  Speaker 8: their child Ash. I can't imagine being in that room.
• 10:24
  Speaker 5: It was by accident. Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 8: So it shows you, like, you do the math of, like,
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  Speaker 8: how many kids since probably Army of Darkness got really
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  Speaker 8: super popular have named their children Ash.
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  Speaker 6: I was just more surprised there were not more Ashes
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  Speaker 6: in the audience to partake in the Ash contest.
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  Speaker 5: That's true. He was sort of the big go-to, like,
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  Speaker 5: guest here. And, like, there was only, what, six? Five
• 10:43
  Speaker 5: or six. Five or six, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: If you count that guy in the wrong color shirt.
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  Speaker 8: Which thankfully Bruce laid him out because you can't let
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  Speaker 8: that slide.
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  Speaker 6: Wrong hand.
• 10:51
  Speaker 5: Wrong hand also needs.
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  Speaker 8: If he would have at least put the spin on it,
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  Speaker 8: he just did it like, I'm left-handed. So if he
• 10:59
  Speaker 8: would have followed it with, I'm doing me, if I
• 11:01
  Speaker 8: were taken over by the evil dead spirit and.
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  Speaker 5: Became a deadite, then I would diffuse this in. Not
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  Speaker 5: the character Ash on screen, which is right-handed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: No, he was left-handed.
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  Speaker 4: Because.
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  Speaker 5: I thought Bruce said he was.
• 11:16
  Speaker 6: Bruce is left-handed, yes. I'm confused. This whole thing.
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  Speaker 5: It's all confusing, people.
• 11:22
  Speaker 6: I'm so confused right now. Delightful times.
• 11:25
  Speaker 5: I did notice in looking at all the stuff, Misty,
• 11:28
  Speaker 5: you need more goggles.
• 11:29
  Speaker 6: There's a shit ton of goggles. There was a fluffy, furry, feathery, leathery,
• 11:35
  Speaker 6: every variety of goggle one could possibly ask for was there.
• 11:40
  Speaker 4: You had no goggles on.
• 11:41
  Speaker 5: You were just sorely lacking in the goggle department.
• 11:44
  Speaker 6: I hate Bono goggles.
• 11:46
  Speaker 5: I don't even know if anybody gets that reference anymore.
• 11:49
  Speaker 4: Go borrow bills.
• 11:51
  Speaker 5: You're losing your Bono reference windows.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, that's so sad. I feel so old now. I
• 11:56
  Speaker 6: guess Bono hasn't worn goggles for a long time. He
• 11:57
  Speaker 6: wears sunglasses.
• 11:58
  Speaker 5: Now he's just so cool because he's a rock star.
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  Speaker 6: He has to wear sunglasses.
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  Speaker 5: In his brain that he has to wear sunglasses.
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  Speaker 6: No, he has a medical condition.
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's right.
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  Speaker 6: I'm serious.
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  Speaker 4: He does.
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  Speaker 6: He has to wear the sunglasses. He's not just being
• 12:08
  Speaker 6: a rock star douchebag. He has to wear sunglasses. So
• 12:10
  Speaker 6: anybody out there judging him, you're an asshole too.
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  Speaker 5: Too late.
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  Speaker 6: I know, I'm an asshole too. I judge him all
• 12:15
  Speaker 6: the time. But he has a condition, motherfuckers.
• 12:17
  Speaker 8: Does he have like a doctor's note that he carries
• 12:20
  Speaker 8: with him at all times?
• 12:21
  Speaker 6: He had some kind of thing happen. I would look
• 12:22
  Speaker 6: it up on my phone, but it's not really worth it.
• 12:24
  Speaker 6: He had some medical condition. I'll vouch for him.
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  Speaker 5: Does that also excuse his attitude?
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  Speaker 6: No, he's an absolute asshole.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, well.
• 12:34
  Speaker 5: He's, you know, he occasionally still writes a decent song.
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  Speaker 6: I still wanted to give him credit for being a
• 12:38
  Speaker 6: decent humanitarian. Then I realized that you two go the
• 12:41
  Speaker 6: other way to dodge paying all their taxes. Or as
• 12:43
  Speaker 6: many taxes as possible.
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: That's kind of how most rock stars work, actually.
• 12:47
  Speaker 6: But they want all these big companies to pay their taxes.
• 12:49
  Speaker 6: But then they're like, oh, we're going to put our
• 12:51
  Speaker 6: company in. Because I guess they consider they can have
• 12:54
  Speaker 6: YouTube being a marketable brand or a company. And so
• 12:57
  Speaker 6: they put it in the... I think they're in Denmark
• 12:59
  Speaker 6: at this point. So they have to lease them out
• 13:00
  Speaker 6: of taxes as possible.
• 13:02
  Speaker 8: You just move next to Ringo Starr because that bastard
• 13:05
  Speaker 8: didn't pay anything.
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  Speaker 6: I don't like Ringo Starr. Fuck him and Skechers. I
• 13:09
  Speaker 6: don't like Skechers either. He's pawing in Skechers. I'm making
• 13:12
  Speaker 6: a tie-in. It makes sense to me.
• 13:14
  Speaker 8: I'm just thinking how lame that is that he has
• 13:15
  Speaker 8: to paw in Skechers. He's out there hawking Skechers. What
• 13:20
  Speaker 8: the hell is that about? The world we live in.
• 13:23
  Speaker 6: Not even decent shoes. At least it's not Crocs.
• 13:28
  Speaker 5: Costumes. How about those giant wings?
• 13:32
  Speaker 6: It took me a while. I'm like, that's got to
• 13:34
  Speaker 6: be Jeepers Creepers. Fucking rowdy ass wings. The costume was
• 13:39
  Speaker 6: fucking amazing.
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: Those are pretty huge wingspan going on.
• 13:42
  Speaker 6: He had stilts. He was on stilts, too, which always
• 13:44
  Speaker 6: makes an elephant more impressive to me if you're on
• 13:45
  Speaker 6: stilts and have wings.
• 13:46
  Speaker 5: Because you're probably going to kill yourself for the days after.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
• 13:50
  Speaker 6: And it makes it more interesting for me because I'm like,
• 13:52
  Speaker 6: when's it going to happen? Am I going to see it?
• 13:54
  Speaker 6: Should I have my camera ready? Faceplant. Is it coming
• 13:56
  Speaker 6: any second now? Son of a bitch, I missed it.
• 13:58
  Speaker 5: This really is how your brain goes most of the day.
• 14:01
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: This is the internal monologue going on.
• 14:03
  Speaker 6: You heard me when we walked by the wet metal
• 14:05
  Speaker 6: area where kids were running across. I'm like, oh, one
• 14:07
  Speaker 6: of them's going to do it. One of them's going
• 14:08
  Speaker 6: to face plant.
• 14:08
  Speaker 5: She was so excited waiting for those kids to fall
• 14:10
  Speaker 5: on their face.
• 14:11
  Speaker 6: I was. It never happened.
• 14:12
  Speaker 8: No, it really didn't. I mean, the parents weren't paying attention.
• 14:16
  Speaker 8: I really was kind of waiting for it, too, just
• 14:17
  Speaker 8: because kids are out of control.
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: You've got to watch them all the time.
• 14:20
  Speaker 6: I might have missed it when I was eating nachos.
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: That's true.
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: It happens.
• 14:23
  Speaker 6: Part of my thing was trying to figure out, like,
• 14:24
  Speaker 6: all right, is that person in costume or is that
• 14:26
  Speaker 6: just how they dress? Yeah.
• 14:27
  Speaker 8: That's become a game that you play at these events.
• 14:30
  Speaker 8: It's just kind of so if we weren't here.
• 14:34
  Speaker 6: It took five aisles of seeing the same guy to
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: realize he was being Dean from Supernatural.
• 14:40
  Speaker 8: I mean, outside of a few episodes, they do kind
• 14:43
  Speaker 8: of dress like normal dudes or bad FBI agents.
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: Well, that and the cold sore kept throwing me off.
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: I told you, if anybody's going to have one, it's Dean.
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: He's way too fucking pretty to have a cold sore.
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: He would get that shit taken care of. He would
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: have some kind of.
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: He'd get another one a week later, though.
• 14:56
  Speaker 6: He would have some kind of.
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: Whatever hot special guest girl was on the next week,
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: he'd get another one.
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: Fucking A. But yeah, I'm like, why is this guy... Oh,
• 15:05
  Speaker 6: it's Dean. He had the necklace. And he had the
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: demon-killing knife. And I'm like, pretty subtle, dude. He's walking
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: around by himself, so I'm wondering if everybody thinks he's
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: a loser walking around by himself. And it's like, is
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: that a spike? Or is that just some dude in
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: a trench coat?
• 15:19
  Speaker 8: I told you, the Gop is dying, man. It was
• 15:21
  Speaker 8: so mainstream for a while there that it kind of like...
• 15:24
  Speaker 8: flamed itself out it got really big to the point
• 15:26
  Speaker 8: where it was super mainstream and everybody made fun of
• 15:28
  Speaker 8: how mainstream it was and then now it's like it's
• 15:31
  Speaker 8: rare that you run into like hardcore gothy people the way.
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: You used to that's good.
• 15:35
  Speaker 8: Probably it probably needs it because again i think anybody
• 15:38
  Speaker 8: who was into it beforehand kind of hated how popular
• 15:41
  Speaker 8: it got i mean they're not the most joining group
• 15:43
  Speaker 8: of people anyway that's why they became god because they're
• 15:46
  Speaker 8: anti-social and they want to be different so when so
• 15:48
  Speaker 8: many people started doing it they were boring mainstream people
• 15:51
  Speaker 8: Probably made.
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: It no fun anymore.
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: When I was goth, I did it all wrong. I
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: had blonde hair. I was a blonde girl.
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: That's not right at all.
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: Everybody else was dying their hair black and black lipstick.
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, I don't want to do my hair.
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: I had pink stripes in it when I was in
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: high school still. I wish there were more burgundy. But yeah,
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: blonde and then some burgundy stripes, which eventually turned pink.
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: Maybe that's where it all came from. But I did
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: goth all wrong. In other words, I wore some Spice
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: Girls shoes.
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you can't go wrong with Spice Girls.
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: Hell no, you can't.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: You're all set with Spice Girls.
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: Fucking A. I was the weirdest goth kid there was.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: You were just a mishmash of whatever.
• 16:25
  Speaker 8: You're like, what kind of weird stuff do I like today?
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: Hell yeah.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: Here we go.
• 16:31
  Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: Roll this shit together. But, yeah, I love going to...
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: I didn't get any pictures with anybody in costume this year.
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: I'm still pretty excited I saw Stitch.
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: You never see a Stitch. I know.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: It was a full-size, giant costume Stitch.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: It was awesome.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: You just wanted to go cuddle with it, didn't you?
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: I kind of did, yeah. Why don't they have Stitch
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: as real animals now? I mean, they managed to modify
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: so many fucking things. Why is there not a real
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: life Stitch at this point?
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: Couldn't they mess with some sugar glider DNA?
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: Dude, don't even get me started. It was so hard
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: for me to not reach over there and just snatch
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: that motherfucker's sugar gliders and just run, run like the wind.
• 17:07
  Speaker 8: I did not expect to see live animals crawling around
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: on people today. Like, Tons of stuffed twins and giant
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: lizards on people's shoulders and stuffed monkeys and all that.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: I expected, but there was actual live critters running around
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: on that dude.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: They sell them at the mall for Christmas for fuck's sake.
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: It's not like it's a rare thing. They're not illegal
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: or anything.
• 17:23
  Speaker 8: It's usually not here, though, that you run into live
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: animals running around on people.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: I guess this is a new market they're testing.
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: People around here have poor enough hygiene as it is
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: to introduce wildlife.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: You don't want it living on them. It might actually
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: live on them.
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: I fucking love sugar gliders. Good lord. If I actually
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: liked the idea of pets, I would have an army
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: of them.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: You just don't like the responsibility.
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: I don't. I don't like the responsibility.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: Much like children.
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: I don't like the responsibility of having to feed them
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: and clean them and emotional attachment. I have issues.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: You really don't need to have children, by the way.
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: I don't, which is why I don't. I'm aware of this.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Believe me.
• 17:57
  Speaker 8: Many a time, I look at people and go, you
• 17:59
  Speaker 8: don't need to have kids. You don't need to have kids.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: I'm always actually really appreciative of people who.
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: Know that and they just don't because so many people
• 18:08
  Speaker 8: in this country and probably the world over Continue to
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: crank out kids for no real reason.
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: Sure, eventually I will change my mind. Which, of course,
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: by then I'll probably be too late.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: But you'll have 40 sugar gliders.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: It'll be okay.
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: But I'm like, I have so much stuff. To whom
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: am I going to pass on my collection of shit? Me.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Assuming I don't kick off first.
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: Dudes die first.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: I might not make it through the week, so.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: I'm going to leave. There's been so many times I'm like, dude,
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: if you die, will me that? And you're like, no,
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: fuck you. So, I mean.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: I just assume you'll take it anyway.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: How am I going to get your NXS shirt?
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: I told you I'm getting buried in it.
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: Fucker. There was something else recently I was told by
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: a boyfriend. I'm like, no, it was Marlena and her
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: squish pennies. I'm like....
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: See, you've got all the ones I've got because we
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: went to the same places.
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: I don't have a Schimpf's one.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: Okay, I guess you can have that one. It's just
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: as easy for you to go down the street and
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: get one.
• 18:57
  Speaker 8: I could.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: Well, squish pennies, which has nothing to do with the convention.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: But if anybody out there wants to send me any
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: squish pennies, I will gladly reimburse you in non-flat money.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: She does like squish pennies.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: I do, I do, I do.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: She's got a problem.
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: Not enough squish pennies is my problem.
• 19:13
  Speaker 8: Not only is she buying them from places she's never been,
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: but places in other lands.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: You recruited other people from the show to get you some.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: You've got connections now.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: I was so excited that day. Like, what's-her-face is in Germany?
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, she needs to bring me a penny.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: And she did, and it was awesome. Thank you, Christian. See,
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: she has a name, not just what's-her-face.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: I'm sure she appreciates it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: I told her this story already, so she already knows
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: that I referred to her as what's-her-face. It's not going
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: to be news. I told her to her face. It's
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: like a person I am.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: To her what's-her-face.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: I will never say anything about anybody behind their back
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: that I will not say to their face.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: That's usually how I try to do it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: It's like, I don't know. If I'm going to bother
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: and make fun of somebody, it's no fun if they're
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: not there.
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: At least sometimes I just do it when their back's turned.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: Like random people.
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: If it's people I know, that's just kind of a
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: jerky move. If it's just random passersby, come on. We
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: all make fun of those.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: Flip flops and socks. Who the fuck wears flip flops
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: and socks? I'm talking about you, random guy at the
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: fucking convention.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: You.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: You wore the flip flops and socks. You should feel bad.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: Public service announcement, people.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: No flip flops and socks. Or sandals in any variety.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: I kind of agree on that.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: No socks.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: Just cover your feet. Nobody needs to see.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: In general.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: It's not good.
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: Toes are weird.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: We all know it's not good.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Cover that up.
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: The person behind us is doing stretches and kung fu.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: What the fuck just happened?
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: That kung fu master from the contest earlier.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: You know what? Some weird lady.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: Maybe she's doing some sort of power yoga.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: She's doing construction. I haven't figured it out yet.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: Is she working on this building?
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: Well, we also saw lots of awesome artwork while we
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: were there.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: We did. We did.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: We did. And met a cool artist who we actually
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: sat down and talked with.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: I wasn't there. I was there earlier, but I won't
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: be there later.
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: You met him earlier, but you have your antisocial issues,
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: so it was best that you not hang out and
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: talk for.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: The whole bulk of it. I spoke to him briefly.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: And you didn't even say anything too horrible.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: Because I stress about that. I'm going to go home
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: and I'm going to lay in bed all night and
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: be like, did I say anything that made me seem
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: too retarded?
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: I'm giving you my stamp of approval. You were actually
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: presentable in public, which I cannot always say.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: Well, they usually have to okay it with boyfriend. I'm like,
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: Did I say anything too stupid? Are they going to
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: think I'm retarded? Do they think I'm mentally challenged? Because
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: that's a good possibility.
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: I mean, that's still up for grabs, really. It's questionable, yes,
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: but you didn't say anything too stupid.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: Did I come up as an asshole?
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: That's pretty standard, too.
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: No, I mean like regular. No, seriously, what is she
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: doing behind us? Look behind us. Look behind us. I
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: can't see.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: I can't see. It's in the wrong spot.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: If I had one of those.
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: Right here.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: Now she's going to see you seeing her.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: You're doing it wrong.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: Your spying skills suck.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: I can see her just fine.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Are you recording? Why don't you take pictures of this nonsense?
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: Look behind us right now.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: Okay, she's a freak. Remember those people that we don't
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: know that we said it's okay to make fun of?
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: It's that one right there. This woman doing calisthenics on
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: a rooftop in the middle.
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: Of the night.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: Oh, my Lord. I'm not even making it up. I
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: can't even get my camera out fast enough.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: What is wrong with people?
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: I think her friend was taking pictures of her in
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: oppositions on a roof in the middle of the night.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: That's not weird. Fucking weirdo. What kind of weirdo hanging
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: out on the roof after dark?
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Oh, wait.
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, no one keep that low.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Nothing right here and now. And if you don't know
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: now what.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, we're gonna shout it from the rooftop.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, folks, it's intermission time. So how about taking a break?
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Get out and stretch a little and relax before the
• 23:23
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  Speaker 9: Are answered in the movies.
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  Speaker 6: And now, on with the show.
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  Speaker 10: Give me one more chance and you'll be satisfied. Give
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  Speaker 5: So we met Epion5, who is one of the artists
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  Speaker 5: here and is actually really cool. I noticed he was
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  Speaker 5: coming back because I'd seen him at a convention earlier
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: this year, and I remembered the artwork.
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: It's the kind of stuff I usually respond to anyway,
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: but I also thought it was interesting how much of
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: it was tied to mostly movies. So I was like, okay, well,
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: as we get back in here, it's like, let's go
• 26:25
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  Speaker 4: Give me half a.
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  Speaker 9: Chance to ride on the waves that you bring.
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  Speaker 4: I really want them to bring back the microphones that
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  Speaker 4: you saw in the 70s on game shows where it
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: was like the telescoping with the really tiny.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: I think Jimmy Fallon uses one.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Of those now. I haven't seen Jimmy Fallon. I try not.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: I don't hate him.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: But he's not. I just don't watch TV more for
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: the most part.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: See, again, I like talk shows, obviously, but now that
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: Letterman's gone.
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: like i was so i mean it was just most
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: of my growing up was like okay.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: I still have not seen the last episode.
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: It was rough yeah i don't think i really like
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: going into it i'm like oh yeah that sucks and
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: then like that last one i was like shit like
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: that was so much a chunk.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: Of my life every night.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: The humor was uh it's you know all the people
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: that i hung out with it was all always letterman.
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: And it's finding that. There's other people in other comics,
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: but if you fall into his little groove, it's the
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: best thing. You get the running jokes night after night.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: I had a fanboy moment out in New York two
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: years ago because I was at the booth doing my
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: thing and Jerry Lawler walked by. The king. He looked
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: at my artwork and then I realized, oh shit, that's
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Jerry Lawler. And I'm not a wrestling fan at all.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: I was going to ask because I have a tie-in
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: when you're done. And I was like, can I shake
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: your hand? And he's like, yeah. And I shook his
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: hand and I kept thinking, this is the hand that
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: slapped Andy Kaufman. That's all I cared about.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: That's an awesome tie-in, actually.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: It's time for another installment of The Art of Being
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: a Movie Geek.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: I guess you're okay with the term geek. Yeah, we
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: embrace it on this.
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: But just because the art segment, as we roll into it,
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: is the art of being a movie geek.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: I got to tell you, last night when we were
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: leaving the convention, Katrina and I, we were going down
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: the escalator down to the lobby here. And I didn't
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: realize that everybody was lined up for the costume contest.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: And I just looked at her and I was like,
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, what a bunch of nerds. She was like,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: these are our people. And I'm like, yes, I know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: but they're a bunch of nerds. We are, yeah. And
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: then I realized, oh, costume contest, right.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: These are like the advanced group of nerds.
• 28:53
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: These are the ones that put extra, way more time
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: into it.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: God bless them.
• 28:58
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm totally fine with nerds, geeks, whatever.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: Which I distinguish very, some people use them interchangeably.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: I have, you know, nerd, geek.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: These are all very specific to me.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: But I've certainly embraced geek, and I fall into that category.
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: And one of the main ones that came along for
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: me was art. So for you, I guess, let's start
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: super early on. What was the art thing that put
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: its hooks into you?
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: I have a story for you about art. And basically
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: knowing very early on life lessons and that, okay, I
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: fall into a certain category that's kind of outside the
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Venn diagram, I guess. I don't know. So it was... uh,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: it was pretty sure I'm writing out there with you.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: It was third grade. And, uh, um, there was a
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: contest that, uh, my classroom had, which was everybody got
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: to draw whatever they wanted and the class would vote on,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: on the best drawing. And then the art teacher was
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: going to paint that as a mural on the wall
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: for all, all eternity. So I was like, Yes, this
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: is amazing. So third grade, this would be 1982 for
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: me because I'm kind of little.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: I'm older.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: I'm an old man. So 1982, 82 slash 83. So
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: I drew a an epic battle scene between barbarians and gargoyles. So,
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, there was a castle. There was basically muscle
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: dudes with loincloths and swords. I know all about some
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: of this. Gargoyles. There was beheadings.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: Very nice.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: You know? And I was, like, the resident artist of
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: the class. So it really didn't matter what I did.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: People liked it, you know? Because they're like, oh, what
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: did you draw today? Already winning people over with your art. So,
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: you know... I drew that. Other people just drew, like,
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: you know, Strawberry Shortcake. One girl drew the Smurf village,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: you know. That's a mural nobody wants. I know. Time
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: came for voting, and the teachers came in, and everybody voted.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: And the teachers looked at the pages of the votes,
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: and they had, like, a look on their face, like,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: you know, the furrowed eyebrow. And they're like, okay, the
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: winner is the Smurf village, everybody. And I was like, bullshit, what?
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: I want a recount. I know. So I was like,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: I was upset. And I actually went to people. I'm like,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: so did you? And they're like, yeah, we voted for yours.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: You were polling kids. I was polling kids. And I
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: found out that basically everybody did vote for me. And
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: that was my first life lesson where I actually learned that,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: you know what? Life's kind of bullshit. And no matter
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: how hard you try, it's going to knock you down.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: The man is against you.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: The man is against you.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: And yeah, no matter what, got to have your defenses up.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: I learned then and there that I was not going
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: to be like the football players.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: We all learned that relatively early, I'm assuming.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: That was 1982 for me. That's when I became an adult. So,
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: I guess.
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: At that point, it was probably crayons, but were you
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: drawn towards a specific medium at that point, early on?
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Early on, it was paint and pens and anything I
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: could find, actually. I actually started drawing and just everything
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: I could when I was even just a young child.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: My very first memory, I think a lot of kids
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: today would be very jealous of, because I was born
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: in 74. So in 1977, Star Wars came out. I've
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: told a version of this story.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: I was three years old, and I saw it. My
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: mother took me, and I vividly remember actually seeing it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: And from then on out, it was just all sci-fi robots, monsters.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: My mom still has the drawings that I did of
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: C-3PO and R2-D2 as a kid.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: I think it helped.
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: And I just recently have started thinking about this. I'm like,
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: And maybe that's why Star Wars has such a universal
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: appeal in general.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: But especially for kids. Because it almost doesn't make sense sometimes.
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: I've watched on this new wave, the post-prequel wave, I've
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: watched these little kids that still come up, don't have
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: that nostalgia for it the first time around, still discover.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: It, and are still so attached to it.
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: Maybe part of it is because there is a simplicity
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: to it, that even when you're a little kid, you
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: can take two... X's and make it an X-wing. And, like,
• 33:15
  Speaker 8: you can draw a TIE fighter with a circle and
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: some sticks. And, like, it's so easy to kind of
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: recreate those.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: In Ewok, you just draw a teddy bear and put
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: a hood on it, and there you go.
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: And even, like, especially, again, people get hard, but, like,
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: there's droids in this. And, like, R2, most people could
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: probably put together a decent.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: R2, you know?
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: It's a trash can.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: I think that's part of it.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like Doctor Who with the Daleks. I mean,
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: it's a salt and pepper shaker.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: Just slap some stuff together and call it a droid.
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: But, yeah, I think that's part of it, is that
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: if it were really, really hard to do any of
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: this stuff, you might be discouraged.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: But I think kids are.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: Drawn to that. You mean like the new Transformers? Have
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: you seen, you know? No, I haven't.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: I'm a couple behind. I went and saw the first one.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: I was like, I like Transformers, sure. Michael, I think
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: I remember him.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: No.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: Oh, my God.
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: It's... I try not to hate for the sake of
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: hating it.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: I try to give him a chance. But, like, his...
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: style of filmmaking i love i.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Love robots but when they fight i can't tell what's
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: going on it's literally like it's like a junkyard it's
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: like an earthquake at a junkyard is what it looks
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: like it's just.
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: He doesn't know how to shoot a fight scene and
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: that's most of his movies at this point are nothing
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: but giant robotic fight scenes and i'm like if you're
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: good there are so many people out there that are
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: good at that like you need to be able to
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: Figure out your environment.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: When you're the viewer, you need to be able to like, okay,
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: I know where they are.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: There's choreography involved for a good fight.
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: And just laying it out so you understand where the
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: people are and what's going on with each step.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: If you can't dance, it's not going to be a
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: good fight.
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: He will spin it 360 degrees at all times and
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: you'll never be able to get an idea of what's
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: going on.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: It's just bad dance.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Bad filmmaking.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: But the simplicity, though, like you had mentioned in Star
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: Wars and other stuff, yeah, it's long-lasting.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: But the old Transformers, like, you could draw a truck.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Everybody remembers the old Transformers.
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: You know, you could draw a truck and put a
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: head on him, and, you know, it was probably a
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: lot easier to piece together, where now I can't draw
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: the Michael Bay nonsense.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't really try to, but it's hard to draw CG.
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: I guess.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. I got a little secret here. I
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: actually worked on one of the Transformer movies.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: Which one?
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: The third one, which I forget the title of it.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Rise of the Monkeys? No, Dark of the Moon.
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: Dark's not side, because they didn't want to get sued.
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: Dark of the Moon, which sounds like an incomplete title.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: They were filming it in Chicago. I had a friend
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: who was working on the set, and she knew the
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: art director. And so she showed him some work, and
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: he asked if I would like to do some graphic design.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, sure, whatever. It was actually
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: a very nice paying gig.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: That's what I was going to say. I mean, that's
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: a main studio project. I'd be taking that job, too.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, it was it was pretty fun because what
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I was amazed of is just how they paid you
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: because I actually was never in an office. It was
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: all through email, you.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Know, which is the way things are now.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: They would send me, hey, can you do this? And
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: I would do some designs and email it back to them.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: And then they said, well, Michael doesn't like this or
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: he likes that.
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: And.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: And then they'd say, they'd pick something and they'd say, oh,
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: send us an invoice of how many hours you worked.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, I worked 50 hours on this.
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: That's what kills me is how much, like you see
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: how much money they blow on these and then don't
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: really even make use of because a friend of mine
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: and he's been on the show years ago that was like,
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: he's a set dresser and has worked for years and
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: years and will tell me stories about like spending hours
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: and hours like building this tiny like set with all
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: these little pieces and like, It's in the background of
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: the background of a shot that they cut out. And
• 36:46
  Speaker 8: I'm like, how many hundreds of thousands of dollars did
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: they blow on this kind of.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: Stuff that never gets seen?
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Happens all the time.
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: And, you know, guys, like, you put tons of hours
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: of work into it. Maybe not as many as you
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: told them, but tons of hours of work into it. And, like,
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: it just all falls away.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: I'm just like.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: And it's weird. The process of how they choose. I
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: don't understand it, really. It's like I had one job
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: that they wanted to do. I had to design a
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: NASA patch for one of their fake missions.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: Which I always loved those as a kid.
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: Sure.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: And I looked up old NASA patches, and I did
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: this design that I thought would be perfect. I sent
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: it to them thinking, well, this one's good. It's everything
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: they want. And they're like, no, no, we don't like it.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Do this. So I kept changing, and I think I
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: did like five variations. And then in the end, Michael
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Bay looked at it, and he was like, we'll do
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: the first one. I was like, that's fine. I'm still
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: going to charge you.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: And you build them for all those other variations.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: I'm going to, yeah. Yep. That's how that works.
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I just like, I look at it and I go,
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: people complain about, you know, big Hollywood movies. And I'm like,
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: it's only big Hollywood movies. Cause we let it get
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: to this point where we're just throwing away money. And like,
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: you see people with, you know, independent films and like,
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: they put every dollar on the screen and they're smart
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: about the way they make a film.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Studios.
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: Like they're so like, Oh, we don't want to make,
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: they don't make near as many movies as they used to.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: They're tightening the belts. But I'm like, if you would
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: just make them smart and not throw money away, like,
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: I don't understand that, but whatever.
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: I mean, I'll take their money if they want to
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: throw me one of those checks for a set amount
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: of hours, in quotes.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: I will totally write them an invoice. I'll hook you
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: up with that.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: I'll take some of that.
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: It's big studio funding. That's what we're looking for. We
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: may or may not trash your movie, but please send
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: us a check.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: I still haven't seen the third one. You're not missing much.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: The second was kind of a nightmare.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: I sat in the theater for the first three ones,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: and I didn't see the last one with the Dinobots, right?
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: I knew there were Dinobots.
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: I kind of want to come back because Marky Mark
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: and Transformers, for sheer what-the-hell-is-going-on.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: Value, I kind of feel like I want to see
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: that one.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: I would only see it if Marky Mark was reprising
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: his character from the movie Fearless, is that? Or Fear?
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Fear.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Fear, yeah, that's what it was.
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: I was hoping he'd go like Renaissance Man or something.
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: His early roles he doesn't speak of anymore.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a shame.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: So I guess at what point did you start trying
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: to make art a thing that would also make money,
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: which has become a fight.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: I realized with all artists, it's like, that's your fight.
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: Like I, I can make art whenever I want, but
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: now how do I get it to be my life?
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: You know, that's, the big battle. It's a good question,
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: and it's a weird journey. Yeah, so I was doing
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: art in elementary school, and I got to a point
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: shortly after high school where– well, actually, it was kind
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: of– I guess it was during high school, too, where
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: I just got tired of it. I actually did not
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: want to be an artist. I didn't want to be
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: called an artist. I just– I wanted nothing to do
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: with it. I think everybody goes through that, so– the
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: backlash and uh then i got to college and and
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: i was like okay well i'm only good at one
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: thing which is art so damn it and so i
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: was like well i guess i will uh i'll do
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: that i'll take some art classes and uh so i
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: started getting back into it at that point and in
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: college though my focus ended up being oil painting and
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: like traditional renaissance style realism yeah which is uh that's
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: quite a it's that's that's nuts because that's no way
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: to make a living honestly I mean, not now. No.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: I graduated. I checked the classifieds. Nobody's looking for Renaissance-style
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: oil painters.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: If it were the Renaissance, you might be doing okay.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: There's churches out there lining up for you to come
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: do stuff.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: You mentioned the churches. My favorite painter is a guy
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: by the name of Caravaggio, who was, in all reality,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: a total asshole. the guy, any artist, but he did
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: a lot of religious paintings for churches, but he was
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: not a religious guy. He was a drunkard. He would
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: get in fights. Uh, the subject matter, he would use his, uh,
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: hooker prostitute friends.
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: Come model for me.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: And Virgin Mary, supposedly he killed somebody and then was
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: on the run. And, and, but, uh, you know, the
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: churches back then they needed artwork to convey messages because
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: most people couldn't read. Yeah. So yeah, that would have been,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: that would have been the best time to be an
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: oil painter.
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: And then, uh, Well, I usually ask this question because
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: it's varying degrees in the answer here. So how much,
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: I guess, college was where you started doing real studying?
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: That's where I started to buckle down, I guess.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: Did you find that part was useful?
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: For me, yes. And honestly, it's kind of funny. Originally,
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: I was supposed to go to one of the Chicago
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: art schools, which are very expensive.
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: Pretty well respected.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: They are very expensive.
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: I guess.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Depends on which one. Depends on what, yeah. So I
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: got in. I was actually going to go with a
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: couple guys that were also artists that I knew. So
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: I got in, and the only way you can possibly
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: go is through financial aid and loans. So what happened
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: was my financial aid didn't come through. My loans didn't
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: come through. I had no money, and so I actually
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: had to drop out before it even began. So I
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: dropped out, and I was like, well, shit, I have
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: no idea what I'm going to do. I'll just go
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: to community college, right? Like all the other kids. That's...
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: That's what you do. But honestly, that was the best
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: thing that happened for me. Cause, uh, the, I went
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: to Indiana university Northwest and they had this like a
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: building that was solely dedicated to art, theater, and music.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: And all the art classes were kind of combined. I mean,
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: they were interlocking. So if you were in the painting studio,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: you could look across and see the sculpture studio, their
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: photography studio, that couches everywhere. So everybody just hung out and, uh,
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: all the professors had such a small, uh, classroom that
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: they could, they actually knew your name and they would
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: work with you individually.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: Probably different than most big schools out there.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: It was the best experience I had. I actually, I
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: learned a lot from my professors. And as you progress,
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: you eventually got into independent study where you got to
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: do whatever you want and they would let you basically
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: do it. They would meet with you every week and
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: they would ask, okay, what are you doing? Why are
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: you doing this? Tell us. And even if you're doing
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: it for the wrong reasons, they would still let you
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: do it because you're going to learn something. So, It was,
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: the community college is the best thing that ever happened
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: to me as far as art is concerned. I'm sure
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: there's probably some out there that have some shitty art classes,
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: but at least IUN had fantastic art classes.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: I think, again, some of it's just talking to people.
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: Some of it's what little art I have done, but
• 43:23
  Speaker 8: I'm like, I think some of it is just the
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: doing it and the excuse to do it. Whether you're
• 43:29
  Speaker 8: self-motivated enough to do it have the excuse to do
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: it all on your own is probably fine. If you're
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: willing to put in that much work on your own,
• 43:36
  Speaker 8: you'll probably learn a lot too.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: But most people don't.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: The couches that they had there helped out because you'd work,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: you'd get tired. Rather than just go home, I'd sleep
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: on a couch, wake up later and be like, well,
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: let's go back to painting.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was doing this over here.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: So it was very relaxed.
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: I think a lot of people don't have that in them,
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: and they need a structure, and the structure gives them
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: enough logged-in work.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: That they start actually getting good.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: I think the other reason that it was good for
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: me was the professors actually were artists in the field.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: They weren't just teaching. My painting professor actually was only
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: teaching just for fun. He actually was making a living
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: as a painter. Like he was, uh, he would take
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: a sabbatical and go to Italy and do art shows
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: out there. So he was just teaching just for the
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: hell of it. And so I actually learned a lot
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: of painting techniques from him, which, you know, I, you know,
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: wanting to be a Renaissance style realism guy was, it
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: was great. But then upon graduating and entering the real world,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: I got slapped in the face with life, you know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: whether you like it or not. Insurance payments, you know?
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: What the fuck is this?
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: I'm still not paying most of those bills.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: No. So at that point, I stopped doing art, actually.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: It was impossible. I had got a house, you know,
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: and I was trying to make bills. That's trouble, too. Yeah.
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: I'm doing that right now.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: And a job and all that. So for about six
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: or seven years, I stopped painting. I didn't do anything.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: Did you feel the repercussions of it in your life?
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: creative psyche?
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. I think I was just... I
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: didn't talk about it, but I think inside I was
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: a pretty miserable person.
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: Especially if you've done that before. There's some people that
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: just haven't done it, period. And there's still a little
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: weird thing that they need that and they don't know
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: it yet.
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: But it's probably got to be more... It's got to
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: take its toll.
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: On you a little more if you've actually done it
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: and you know that you can do it.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: And you stop. It's pretty weird to to be able
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: to do something and not do it and then settle
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: for some shit-ass job that pays minimum wage.
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: That's what a lot of people out there are doing.
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: So I feel for all of them.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: It's true.
• 45:51
  Speaker 8: You try to do what you're passionate about, but it
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: doesn't always pay. No.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: And it certainly doesn't pay well.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: The funny thing is they always say, well, follow your dreams, kids,
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: and it'll happen. And that's a nice phrase to say,
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: but sadly it's not necessarily true because you could do
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: everything right. You can do all the steps involved and
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: just fail miserably.
• 46:07
  Speaker 8: I think it's both I've kind of realized it's like
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: you've got to it is one of those follow your
• 46:13
  Speaker 8: dreams stay with it be passionate about it but there's
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: also this element of luck I shouldn't.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Say fail miserably because if you're actually trying that's great.
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: You can get by sometimes but I think it's one
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: of those you need that element of luck and when
• 46:27
  Speaker 8: the luck kicks in then you're also at that point
• 46:29
  Speaker 8: talented enough to be like oh I can actually make
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: this happen now whereas if it's just you're randomly picked
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: and you have no back you know log of work
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: or no skill that you've honed it's like then you just.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: Walk the walk talk yeah at that point if you
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: don't have.
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: The skills yeah you might just be a one-off kind
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: of oh this worked out for me well oh what
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: do i do now and then you fall by the
• 46:49
  Speaker 8: wayside so yeah i think it's i think it's both
• 46:51
  Speaker 8: really i won't say luck isn't involved because i feel
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: like a lot of it is i've.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: Known a few guys and girls who i mean just
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: were in the right place at the right time but
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: they also have the skills so they're able to keep
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: going with it and i've known a few people who
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: basically you know i don't I guess we're one-hit wonders,
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: like bands, so to speak.
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: It's kind of how it works. It's like you might
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: have something that works for a little while, but unless
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: you know how to parlay that into something else, it doesn't.
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, I think that is part of it.
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: So, as you found yourself getting back into it, was
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: it back to regular type of painting or.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Kind of. This was a period in my life where
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: things were, it was crazy in a good way.
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: So, you know, I stopped doing artwork for, like, oil
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: painting for years. But prior to that, prior to the
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: stopping of the artwork and getting my bachelor's in arts,
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: I was attending the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: On a weekly basis.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: Leads you down a path.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: It does. Yes, a very dark path that involves just lingerie.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Most definitely.
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: I started going to the Rocky Horror Picture Show. And,
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is probably the same story that a
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: lot of people have. So I go to this little
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: theater that's in the middle of, well, actually, it's right
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: outside of Gary, Indiana.
• 48:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: It sounds like trouble.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: I know. It sounds like trouble. And it was kind
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: of a shithole theater called The Crossroads. But that was
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: its charm. And so I go there and I meet
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: all these crazy people. And I actually felt more at
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: home with these people than anybody else I had met
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: in high school or even in college. And I was like, wow, this,
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: I enjoy this. So I started going every week. And
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: then eventually I joined a cast and I started performing.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: And so for.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Like five years every weekend I was doing riffraff and
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: I was going to conventions, Rocky horror conventions across the country. And,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: and so I was finally traveling and, and, uh, anyway, so,
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: you know, then eventually I, I, uh, I quit the
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: cast cause life hit. That's around the same time that
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: I graduated college. Life happens. I quit Rocky horror. I
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: quit doing paintings, but I still kept in touch with
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: all the people that I met. So they were still
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: my friends. And, uh, so six or seven years later,
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: I started getting back into artwork and I started doing
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: oil painting again, which, you know, I love the oil paintings,
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: but I was like, you know, I wonder if I
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: could make a living at this. I have no idea,
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: but I really should try. You only get one shot
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: at this life, right? I ended up meeting a guy
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: who was doing street art at the time, and his
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: name's Bearhead, and he's from Indiana, and he did this very...
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: Simplistic stencil work, like two colors, three colors at the most.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: But it was like pop art, like Adam West and
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Burt Ward. And I was like, that's awesome. And I
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: noticed that there was kind of like a similarity between
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: the stencil work and the Renaissance oil painting that I
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: was doing, which utilizes a skill called chiaroscuro, which is
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: the depiction of light and dark. That's the guy that
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: I mentioned, Caravaggio. That was his jam. He basically made Churroscuro,
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: the light and the dark.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: That's an interesting connection. Yeah, I don't think I've heard.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: People use that before. I mean, the thing about stencil work,
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: you break down the colors to the lights and darks.
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: It completely makes sense.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: And I was like, wow, I love it. I love
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: the contrast. So I was like, you know what? I'm
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: going to take one of my paintings, and I'm going
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: to see if I can do that. And so I
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: took an oil painting, and then I broke it down
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: to just, I think, three colors did some stencil did
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: you know I cut three stencils and I tried it
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: out and I was like man I love this I
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: mean it just was like instead of spending you know
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: three months in an oil painting I could make you
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: know just within a few days I could make a
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: new painting and I love the look of it it
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: still maintained the churroscuro and so I was like I
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: love this so I started going down that path I
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: was getting away from the oil painting and then I
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: started doing the stencil work and then Around that same time,
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: I was still keeping up with all my friends from
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: Rocky Horror. And at that point, a lot of my
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: close friends from Rocky Horror started doing their own creative projects.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: And then I found myself saying, hey, I can do
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: this for you, and they'll do this for me. We
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: need artwork. We need artwork, yeah.
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: We can do that, yeah.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: So I found myself actually making work for other people.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: And at that point, Comic-Cons were really starting to... to
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: kind of take over.
• 51:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it hit a weird period in these last 10
• 51:18
  Speaker 8: years because we've been doing it. I remember when we started,
• 51:21
  Speaker 8: it was a minimal kind of thing that we would
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: have to travel to get to them.
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: Now they have overrun every city.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go off the path here and tell
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: a little story that I actually like about what comics
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: then are as opposed to now. So when I was
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: a kid, I read comics all the time, like horror, fantasy, sci-fi, whatever,
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: whatever I can get. And that was the thing. It
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: was whatever I could find because there were no comic
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: book stores. There was the local pharmacy that had the
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: wire racks.
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: You used to look at them? Yeah, that was about it, really.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: The wire rack would spin around and whatever they had
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: that month is what I would buy. And it was just,
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: there was no guarantee of getting the next issue. It
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: was just, well, they've got this, they've got Swamp Thing,
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: I'll get Swamp Thing. They've got Batman, I'll get Batman.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: That's how it started.
• 52:07
  Speaker 8: Eventually, pretty early on in our town, we did get
• 52:10
  Speaker 8: a good comic shop that is still around. Oh, But it,
• 52:13
  Speaker 8: it was again, like you're a little kid, so you
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: can't go there whenever you want. So it became this
• 52:17
  Speaker 8: like month long process of me of like dropping hints that.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: Hey, I'd really like to go.
• 52:21
  Speaker 8: And like, I wouldn't just outright ask my parents. I'd
• 52:24
  Speaker 8: be like, I kept like working my way up to like.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: Okay, I need to go back there. I want to
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: buy more stuff.
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: And like, so yeah, mine became a very like game
• 52:33
  Speaker 8: of cat and mouse of how do I get myself
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: to this comic book shop?
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: That's too far away for me to ride a bike there.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: Like it's, And now it's changed. I mean, there's comic
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: book shops that have everything you could want. You can
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: order anything. Online, you can get anything. And there's a
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: comic convention in literally every biggish town across America. Every month,
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: there's a comic convention. So it's different now. I mean,
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: it's just you want it, it's there. And so I
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: started realizing, well, you know, a lot of the work
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: that I do, I mean, I was doing work based
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: on things that I like. So I was trying to
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: do stencil portraits of Batman, Superman, whatever. And I was like, okay,
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: I'm going to try to make a living at this.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: I was doing some gallery work too, but the galleries,
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: they're fine. It's like its own art form.
• 53:19
  Speaker 8: Being successful in galleries is a very specific thing that
• 53:23
  Speaker 8: a lot of artists do not know how to do.
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: They may be super talented.
• 53:26
  Speaker 8: More so than the ones that are making money in
• 53:27
  Speaker 8: the galleries, but that's its own little game.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Not to mention, you know, when you sell something
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: through a gallery, there's usually a 50% commission. Sometimes more
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: than that, I've heard of you. They pay taxes on it.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: So if I would sell a painting for $ 500, I'd
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: be lucky if I would get $ 75 out of it.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: That's crazy. So after supplies and shipping and commission fees
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: and all that, so. I decided, you know, I'm going
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: to start doing these comic conventions. And I applied for
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: an artist alley and got into an artist alley. I
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: think the first comic convention I did was C2E2 in Chicago.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: It was like, I think, five.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Years ago or something. I can't remember. And so I
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: just set up a little booth, had some stenciled paintings,
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: and I did some really shitty prints that I got
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: made up at FedEx. And it was kind of weird
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: because people would look at the artwork. They would like it.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: And then they'd ask how much a print is. And
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, well, $ 10?
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: How's that?
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: How about that? They would slide a $ 10 to me.
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, wow.
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: This works.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: This is amazing. I'm actually selling stuff. And again, at
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: the same time, all my Rocky Horror friends were like, well, yeah.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, all those people that I had met had
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: kind of moved out. My one friend, Sean Stuller, who
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: ran the cast that I was in for years in Indiana,
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: he moved out to the East Coast. He was living
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: in Jersey. And then there's the New York Comic Con
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: out there. So I was like, you know what? Maybe
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: I can try to get into that. And Sean's like,
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: if you do, we'll find you a place to stay.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: You don't have to worry about a hotel. And that's
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: the other thing. You know, hotels are expensive.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: It becomes, yeah, a huge part of this game, hitting conventions.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: So I would end up going out to the East Coast,
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: staying with my buddy Sean. And then next thing I know, hey,
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: I'm in the artist alley of New York Comic Con,
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: which is a little bit bigger.
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: It's a big step, yeah.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: There's more people and stuff. And selling prints. And I
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: was like, oh, so I would take all that money
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: and then invest it into another convention a month later.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: And this ball got rolling that just took over. And
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: now I don't know what day it is or month.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: That's the convention routine. Or what town. Where am I?
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Do I pack up yet? Yes.
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: Let me know when it's time to pack up.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: Well, so much of yours is not only amazing, but
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: so much.
• 55:36
  Speaker 8: Was movie-based, so very heavily influenced by films.
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: I guess you've always been kind of a movie fan.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: I love movies. I like them. As early as Star Wars.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: As early as Star Wars, yeah. But, yeah, I guess.
• 55:48
  Speaker 8: Coming up, what were some of the ones outside of
• 55:50
  Speaker 8: Star Wars and Rocky, some of the other outside influences?
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of TV influences as well. I mean,
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: I loved... I mean, even just like Lost in Space.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: I used to love watching Lost in Space, the original
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: Star Trek. Do I have to clarify original as saying
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: Captain Kirk? Because there's been so many Star Treks. Like
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: some kids, I don't even know.
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: I guess now you do. I wouldn't even think that,
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: but I'm like, yeah, obviously.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: But again, I'm in the same time period. Adam West, Batman.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: Loved it. Watched it all the time. I actually had,
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: I think, a pretty awesome upbringing. My mother was basically
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: just like an old, hippie it's just anything goes at
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: the home she would basically let me watch whatever i
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: want i remember at one point we got hbo and
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: and so at that point there were movies that i
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: didn't see in the theater that were on hbo like
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: like alien.
• 56:42
  Speaker 8: I saw that as a kid yeah i don't remember
• 56:44
  Speaker 8: them even questioning it i sometimes i wonder now i'm
• 56:47
  Speaker 8: like if i would have turned out the way i
• 56:49
  Speaker 8: am now i i appreciate it because i love the
• 56:52
  Speaker 8: movie so much that i saw as a kid but
• 56:54
  Speaker 8: i'm like if i had a kid now like I
• 56:56
  Speaker 8: wouldn't want to watch an alien when I was as
• 56:57
  Speaker 8: young as I was.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I saw it on HBO, and I mean,
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: that's like a sci-fi movie, which is very influential, but
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: my mother was like, well, it's kind of scary. Yeah,
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: it's horror. You want to watch it? Go ahead, but
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: you're not going to sleep in my room tonight. I
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: was like, all right. I watch Alien, and sure enough,
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: I'm deathly afraid that something is going to pop out
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: of my chest.
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: Still, jury's out.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: It might happen. It might happen.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: It might have been laid a long time ago.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: And then, you know, That's the sci-fi aspect. The other
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: aspect that is very influential is the horror aspect. And
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: another film that I saw on HBO that I advertised
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: for was The Exorcist. And I was like, oh, wow,
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: that looks fun. And my mom, she's like, do you
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: want to watch it? And I'm like, yeah. She's like, okay, good.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: You're not sleeping in my bedroom. So she let me
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: watch it when I was in kindergarten.
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: Literally. Oh, Jesus.
• 57:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: The power of Christ compels you.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I basically watched the, you know, HBO unedited
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: version of The Exorcist. And, of course, it terrified me. But,
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: you know, it was influential horror, sci-fi. I mean, all
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: of it. Comics, movies, TV. Oh, even old Japanese kaiju movies. Godzilla.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: I absolutely loved.
• 58:16
  Speaker 8: Again, here we had a, like, Sunday afternoon thing that, like,
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: the local channel would just play tons of Godzilla and
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: other random offshoot, your Gamera's and your War of the Gargantuas,
• 58:28
  Speaker 8: and I.
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: Just love those as a kid.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: Kids nowadays realize what it was like to see stuff
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: like that because, you know.
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: Because you couldn't just go find it.
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: No.
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: It had to find you almost.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: We had the... I forget. We had the TV that
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: had the two knobs. There was VHS... Not VHS. VHF
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: and UHF. So the Godzilla and the Gamera, all those movies...
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: Is it UHF?
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: I think UHF was the lower rant one.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the one where you'd actually have to turn and
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: try to find it. It was your local channels usually.
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: It was like trying to dial in a radio station,
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: and it was always like channel 50 or 60 on
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: Sunday afternoons. They'd be playing black and white.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: Clicking of the giant knob.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: So, you know. all of that. The Japanese, you know,
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: giant monster movies. Any shitty black and white B-horror movie
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: that I could find on Sundays.
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: I still love them.
• 59:20
  Speaker 8: Like, again, I was watching some over Halloween now, and
• 59:23
  Speaker 8: I'm like, there's something about that.
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 59:26
  Speaker 8: Just the feeling that you get from those old black
• 59:28
  Speaker 8: and white, even a few of the early color ones
• 59:31
  Speaker 8: still kind of had that vibe. It's very much kind
• 59:34
  Speaker 8: of rooted in that, and I just attached myself to
• 59:36
  Speaker 8: that so much as a kid, and obviously it hasn't
• 59:38
  Speaker 8: gone away.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: And also, I lived in a very rural area. I
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: lived on a farm, like out in the middle of nowhere,
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: so there were no... There were no other kids, really.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, in school, there were kids. But again, I
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: was drawing barbarians cutting off gargoyle heads. So I wasn't
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: really hanging out. Like, we're going to leave him alone.
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: And so on the farm, I had just free reign
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: to do whatever I wanted. And so I would draw
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: whatever I wanted. I would play with all my Star
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: Wars toys in the sandbox. I just had free reign
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: of everything. So we had train cars on the farm, too,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: that were used for storage. So I remember I would
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: climb these train cars and pretend I was Indiana Jones
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: and I did a lot of that, too. Nowadays, parents
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: probably wouldn't allow it, but I would climb up to
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: the top of the train car and hang off the
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: edge as if it was moving. I mean, here I'm
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: 10 years old hanging off a train car. I could
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: have fallen and broke my neck, but my grandparents and
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: mom were like, whatever. He already watched The Exorcist. He's
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: good to go.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the generation. I was just discussing this. And funny
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 8: enough with my mom, because I was questioning how many
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 8: things I used to.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: Do that I'm like, you would never let a kid
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: do that now.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: Like the world we live in.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 8: And then she was talking about the stuff that like
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 8: she did as a kid. And I'm like, they really
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 8: did not give a rat's ass when she was a kid.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: So I'm like, it's progressively gotten, you know, more and
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 8: more crazy overprotective helicopter parenting. But, To some reason, I'm like, well, yeah,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 8: I would probably be that bad myself now.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: But I'm like, there's a mid-range.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 8: I'm like, there's kind of, because I feel like now
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 8: we're kind of overdoing it. So maybe that era we
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 8: were in is just enough of, you know, fall down
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 8: and hurt yourself.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: It's okay. You learn something, you know.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: And I think all of it actually helped as far
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: as the imagination and creative process goes. All of that.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: And I try to tie all of it into my work.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: So obviously, if you're going to paint something, Actually, I
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: say if you're going to paint or create or do something,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: I always think you should do something you either really
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: love or really hate because either one involves passion.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: There's passion there either way, yeah.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: And so I love comics, sci-fi, horror, and I'll try
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: to incorporate that into the work, which is nice because
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: we're at a period in life where Comic-Cons are huge
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: and people are, even in movies now, I never thought
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: 20 years ago that I would ever see you know,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: an Avengers movie, Captain America.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: Massive, big budget, overarching, multiple, multiple, multiple movies. It's backed
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: by a studio.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: It's crazy. There was a... there was a little bit
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: of that in the seventies on TV. There was a
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: Spider-Man television show, which was not very good.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: But it was all, cause they kept trying to do
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: all of them. There was a bad Captain.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: America on TV. There was a very bad Captain America. Yeah.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: The Spider-Man was just giant rope webs. They were flinging
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: at people.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: I watched all those too.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: Wonder Woman was a good one.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: The Incredible Hulk was good.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 8: Incredible Hulk had a good budget for, for TV, you know,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 8: it had better than the, the bad made for TV
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 8: movies of all.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: So, and nowadays it's like, man, uh, You know, when
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: I first heard that there was going to be a
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: Guardians of the Galaxy movie, I was like, where the
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: fuck am I?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 8: I was just like, how can you make that work?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 8: And then I saw that first trailer, and I'm like, damn,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 8: they might have done it. And then sitting there, I'm like,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 8: how did they make this happen?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: Never in a million years. I mean, of course, my
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: favorite combo character of all time, and sadly they've already
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: made a movie of him, and it's okay, is Swamp Thing.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: That was my favorite comic, hands down, was Swamp Thing.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: It was a horror comic, honestly, and I don't think
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: a lot of people realized that back then. I remember
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: when Alan Moore took over for the run of Swamp Thing,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: they used to have a tagline at the top of
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: the comic which said, for mature readers only. And as
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: a kid, I was like, oh, well, I'm buying this.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: And then the artwork, it was just terrifying. And then,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: you know, Wes Craven did the Swamp Thing movie in
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: the early 80s, and I remember seeing it, and I
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: was like, wow, this is nothing like the comic.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah. And again, you feel like they kind of got it,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 8: but at the same time, it's like trying to force
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 8: it into a mold of something that it wasn't. It's
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 8: still trying to make him such a superhero kind of... Yeah,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 8: it doesn't quite hit the same.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: If they make a Swamp Thing movie nowadays, I'm probably
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: going to lose my mind because... I mean, I would
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: be super excited because they have the technology that they
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: could conceivably make a Swamp Thing movie and make it
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: look like the comic, but I don't think they could
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: ever actually do it justice because it's actually a horror comic,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: and they can't really make a horror-based movie based on
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: a comic. They want to make it a superhero movie.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that big of a budget, and it's going
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 8: to want to hit the audience that it does because
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 8: if you make him a hero, then you'll hit that audience.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: If you make him.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 8: a horrific character it's like you're going to get horror
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 8: fans but you're not going to get massive.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: Audiences so it'll never happen yeah but I mean you
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: know so all of that I throw it into the
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: work so a lot of the work I do is
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: some of it's sci-fi and some of it is comic
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: related and some of it's horror related so and you
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: know it works really well at the comic conventions.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: It all turns out really impressive, I have to say.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: You've honed it well.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: I spend many hours in the basement.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: My question is.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 8: In your early days of super hardcore learning Renaissance painting,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 8: if someone went through a time warp and showed you
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 8: one of yours, how would you respond to it? Do
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 8: you think that version of you would ever see yourself
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 8: being where you are now, doing the work that.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: You are now?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: I think so, honestly.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, they, you know, we talk about like the
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: Renaissance masters back in the day. But truthfully, I think
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: using the term master is just, it's an illusion because
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: nobody ever masters the craft.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: And they weren't masters then.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 8: It's only us now referring to them. It was just
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 8: working artists at the time.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: There is, I mean, if you're out there making artwork,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: there is always a stepping stone. There is always something
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: to work towards, too.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: It's always an ongoing process. And so, I mean, the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: old oil painting me, looking at me now, I think
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: would be like, okay, that's fine. I know I'm going there,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: and that's totally cool.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: You found it. This is the thing I've been slowly
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: working towards.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: You just got there. And the funny thing is, being
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: that I've been doing a lot of stencil work, as
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: far as the stencil designs themselves, I think one of
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: the things that people enjoy about the work when I
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: do my paintings is, I mean, I'm trying to make stencils,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: stencil work that incorporates the idea of chiaroscuro, of light
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: and dark, of using not just like two colors, but
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: I'll use like five colors, seven colors.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 8: What little stencil work I've done in the past, it's like,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 8: it's really hard to make it work right. So the
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 8: more layers you're on, the level of difficulty multiplies.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: Again, that's why I live in the basement. I don't
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: have a social life.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 8: I think that's why I was so impressed with yours,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 8: because there are so many layers and so many intricate
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 8: little designs.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: That's a hell of a lot of work, man.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: The big Lebowski painting that I did, that was probably
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: the hardest one that I've done. Because before I'll ever
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: cut a stencil, I'll actually draw up the design first.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: Because I've got to figure out how many layers I'm
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: going to have and how they're going to lay on top.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: Darks and lights are going to be, yeah.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: So it actually took, I think it took a couple
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: months to do, just to do the drawing for the
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: big Lebowski because of his hair. You know, he's got
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: such wonderful Jesus hair.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: The dude's mane.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but trying to figure out how I'm going to
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: make a stencil of the hair with the highlights and
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: the darks. So it took about two months to actually
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: draw it, to get it exactly how I wanted. And
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: then it took a month just to cut the stencils.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: because they were so intricate. And then it took about
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: a week to paint it, because the stencils were so fragile. Basically,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: I would lay a stencil down. And I've seen a
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: lot of guys that they lay a stencil down, and
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: they just hit it with as much paint as possible.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: And I can't do that. So I would lay the
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: stencil down. I would do a light mist of spray.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: And then I'd fan it and let it dry. And
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: then I'd have to do that again. On the same stencil.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: That's crazy. So I think I had seven stencils for
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: the Big Lebowski. But each stencil actually had two colors. So, like,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: the top of the stencil had, like, one color and
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: the bottom had another color. So that way I could
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: double up.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: Creation is amazing, too, if you can get that right.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: And so, I mean, yeah, it took a couple weeks.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: Did I say a week? I've lost track at this point.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: A long time. It took a long time, honestly. It
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: was insane. But, you know.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: The other thing that I want to do with it is,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: aside from the colors and the churroscuro, is the border work.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: I like to try to incorporate these really ornate borders.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: And the reason is, it's kind of like an homage
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: or a callback to the old iconography of the day.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: You see these saints.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 8: Again, I think maybe that's part of what appealed to
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 8: me so much. Because I have such a thing for,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 8: especially the Mexican influence, the Day of the Dead stuff.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: All the weird saint stuff.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: Imagery.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 8: Again, maybe all of these things came together that I
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: so responded to your stuff.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: There's a little bit of art theory that goes into this,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: or meaning, I should say, because nowadays people, Comic-Cons are
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: so insane, and they're so everywhere, and people love these
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: characters so much that in a way they are.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, it is sort of. I mean, people say
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: it's sacrilege.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 8: But, I mean, we treat these characters equally as reverent.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 8: I mean, you watch fanboys get worked up when a
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 8: movie does it wrong.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 8: Because it's their faith. It's like that is the way
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 8: they treat it to some extent. So, yeah, it's not
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 8: far removed.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: I like to depict these characters as the gods that
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: they are.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 8: Well, again, it's all really impressive. I guess, where's the
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 8: best place for people to see some.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: Of your work?
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: People always ask, do I have a website? And I'm like, no,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: I'm too lazy to make one, honestly.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: There's ways you don't really have to.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: The nice thing is, I learned very early on as
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: far as artwork goes, and it sounds so weird to
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: say this, marketing plays a key role in trying to
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: be successful. The internet is great because you can reach
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: an audience you could never reach before, but you're also
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: competing now with millions and millions of people. Early on,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: I love robots and sci-fi, so I adopted the name
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: Epion5 as my artist name. which works out great because
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: I'm the only guy named Epion5. So when people ask,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: what's your website? I'm like, just Google Epion5. That's it. Yeah,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: because nobody actually types in web address. They just Google it. Yeah,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: pretty much. And when they do that, it brings up Facebook,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: the Epion5 Facebook page, the Epion5 Instagram, Epion5 Etsy, Tumblr, Twitter,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: although I'm probably going to shut down the Etsy site
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: pretty soon.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: I do so many Comic-Cons. I do like two, three
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: a month.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: It's got to be hard to keep.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 8: stock and keep track of stock while doing all of
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 8: these shows i'm terrible at etsy and for anybody who
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: listens to this if you place an order i'm sorry
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 8: i didn't send it.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: Out to you yet i am so sorry i'm sorry
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: yeah but i just tell people google epion5 epion5 and
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: they'll find me that's cool it's easy.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 8: And you definitely should and then again you're touring the
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 8: country more than you need to So come, come find you.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I'll be in your town next week. We will. Yeah.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 8: We'll, we'll definitely help spread the word and whatever links
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 8: you want to put up there too.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: We can, we can do that. Thank you. Appreciate it.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: Thank you for joining us on this and we'll, we'll
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: go check back in with Mr.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: Awesome.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: Kids, get out your decoder pins.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: For you members of the secret circle.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: As a, you know, heads up for you kids at home.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 8: Uh, we're, Probably going to return to that Rocky Horror
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 8: thing we were talking about.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: So do your homework now.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: Go watch the movie. Sweet.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: All right, Misty. I think it's time for some geek activities.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 6: Do you have activities? I'm a geek. I don't do activities.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: That's the point.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: You sat at home watching stuff. What have you watched, Misty?
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: Guess what I have not watched?
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: Movies.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 6: Pop gear. I've been trying to get caught up on
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 6: Supernatural because I'm like a season and a half behind.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: That's pretty geeky.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 6: I love me some Supernatural. I'm a Dean girl all
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 6: the way. I am no lie.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: Cold sores and all.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: Fucking A. God, she's stretching again. Focus. I can't get
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 6: my camera to focus.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: That's the problem.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 6: But anyways, I got caught up on iZombie. I fucking
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 6: love that show.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: iZombie's so awesome. Man, we did see an iZombie today.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 6: Threw me off. I'm like, why is this bitch carrying
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 6: around hot sauce?
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 7: Oh.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: The white hair, the hot sauce. It all came to you.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 6: The lab coat. She was wearing a lab coat, too.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: That was pretty awesome, though.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 8: Just for sheer, you know, awesome character choice alone, she
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: gets points.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: I didn't get a good close look at her because
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: I was like... I know.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: We should have been up there like, can we take
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: a picture with you?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 6: I know, right?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: Because we'd be cool.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: We would be.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: But aside from that, iZombie, awesome.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: I love that show. I got caught up on Scream Queens.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: I'm still not entirely sure how I feel about it
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 6: because I was so excited about it. Now that it's
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 6: been on, I'm like, I'm not really sure what to
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 6: do with this.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: They're trying for something.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: They're definitely trying.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: I'm not 100% sure. I just don't know how it's
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: going to hit.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: I get.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 8: I feel like what he's doing is working for the
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 8: show runner, creator, whatever that dude's name is.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: I feel like he's following... Ryan.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: His name's Ryan.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 8: He's following through with his plan, and I feel like
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 8: he's making it work exactly the way he wants to.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: I'm like, is it really landing with anyone else?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 8: I feel like it's too much horror for most normal people.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 8: It's probably not enough for hardcore horror fans, and it's
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 8: kind of silly, so there's also... The comedic angle, which again,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 8: sometimes you can work comedy and horror.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 6: And the raw bitchiness of Emma Roberts. God, that bitch
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: is crazy.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: I do like Emma Roberts.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 6: I don't even think she's just crazy. I think she's
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: fucking crazy.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: In real life.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: Well, you've seen her dad, right?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 6: Her dad's hot. I'm not even going to lie. Eric Roberts.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: But he's a nut job.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying I don't like him, but he's a
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 5: little bit crazy.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: Not that I'm like for spousal abuse, but I'm pretty
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 6: sure she beats her boyfriend. I've heard stories.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: Is this Emma or the character?
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 6: Emma, like in real life.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: Allegedly. Allegedly.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: Let's just say I'm like Evan... Is it Peter Evans
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: or Evan Peters? That other guy who was Quicksilver in.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: The other Quicksilver.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: The X-Men movie that I watched. I watched all the
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 6: X-Men movies. He was not Quicksilver in the... Age of Ultron. Yeah,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: I did not watch that one. Because it didn't have Loki,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: so fuck that movie.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: It was supposed to have Loki.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: And then he got cut. Fuck that.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: But I kind of agree, because I watched that.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 8: And knowing the scene, because there was all this other
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 8: extra stuff they shot for that scene.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: That did.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 8: Make it kind of confusing. And then also adding Loki.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 8: And that's kind of why they took it out. If
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 8: you read through like what they said. It's because it
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 8: makes it seem like. Maybe Loki's behind it all.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: And like.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 8: So Ultron's not the bad guy. It's Loki controlling of Ultron.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: So I mean.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: People are dumb. You don't want to confuse them.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 8: So I actually kind of agree with that decision. To
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 8: make it a more simplified streamlined plot. Because they really
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 8: did have a huge amount of information. To cram into
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 8: like a two hour plus movie.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 7: So.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: I think it does make it less confusing taking that
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: scene out.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: Anyway, point was, bitch is crazy.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: She is crazy.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: And so it makes her character on the show, I'm like,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 6: she's not even just acting. Bitch is probably just fucking crazy.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 8: This is just film video footage of her.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 6: I mean, she's just, she's nuts. And I like it
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 6: for the show. I'm not sure I would want to
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 6: hang out with her in real life, although she is
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: pretty hot.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 8: I mean, that was kind of my take on Scream 4, too.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 8: I'm just like, oh, this is it. She can dial
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 8: it up to 11. By the end of that movie,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 8: I'm just like, all right, I'm on Team Emma here.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: I was like, damn it.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 8: And that's what I, a million years ago, when I
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 8: did the whole episode about it, that was my takeaway.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: I was like, they ended it the most boring, conventional way.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: No offense, Wes.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: Rest in peace.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 8: But I'm just like, you so should have handed off
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 8: that franchise to Emma Roberts.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: No shit.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 8: Like, she should have taken over. She should have been
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 8: the through line and done 4, 5, and 6 and
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 8: had nothing but Emma Roberts in it because she's awesome
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 8: and crazy town.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, she had just... There's a scene on Office
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: of Life episode I watched where they're at the funeral
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: for Chanel No. 2, which is equally fucking... What's her name?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: Ponytail bitch. Ariana Grande.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 6: Anyways, and she's calling her a whore. I'm like, she's
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 6: right there in her casket. And Emma Roberts is giving
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 6: a fucking eulogy. And she's like, you dead whore. You
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 6: fucking get what you deserve. I don't know if she
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 6: didn't actually say fuck because it's actually on like Fox
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 6: or something.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 8: It is, yeah.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: Semi-network television.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 6: But she was calling her a whore and dead whore.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 6: And you got up, you're rotten in hell or something.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: It's good times.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: She's a fun person.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: She is. She's nutty. Shenanigans.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: All right. So on my end, not near as much TV.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: I did try to keep up with the few like iZombie.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 5: But movie wise, Final Girl.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: I want to see that so bad.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: Singular.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 6: The one with Abigail Breslin?
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: Who is also on Scream Queens.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 8: Well, that's my takeaway is I didn't know that I
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 8: would say this sentence, but Abigail Breslin is a badass.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: Watching that, I'm just like, damn, all right.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 8: I didn't expect that, you know, years ago when she
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 8: was just that kid that kept turning up in all
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 8: these movies.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 6: Now she's... Little Miss Sunshine.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: She's Little Miss Sunshine upside her head. Like, she's a badass.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: I know, right? I sent you the trailer for that,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 6: didn't I?
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah. But I still couldn't remember which was which.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 8: Like, when I got that one, I still, like, Didn't
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 8: remember which plot was between.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: There's Final Girls. There's Final Girls.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 8: So I just saw it and went, all right, I
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 8: need to read this. And then like I watched it
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 8: and I was still, I was like midway in and went,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 8: oh yeah, it is this.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: Like I forgot which plot was which movie.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's very confusing that they're both out around the
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: exact same time with this.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: Almost the exact same title.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: And I want to see them both. I want to
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 6: see the Final Girls too.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 5: The other one sounds cool too.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 8: This one, we could do a whole episode on just
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 8: this because I kind of need to talk through it, so.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 8: I'm just giving a light overview so as to no spoilers.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: Next time in the Bastion of Awesomeness, we'll be covering... Actually,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 6: we'll probably do it without us.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: We need to talk about it.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 6: You'll probably get some of your more educated people from
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 6: the podcast.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: You ain't educated.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: I'm just the one who says fuck a lot.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: That part's true.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 8: Here's what I will give it.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: It looks amazing.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: And, like, that director has not directed a feature film before.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 10: What?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: He's a photographer. So every shot is lit perfect. Every
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 5: shot is framed perfect. Like, it looks amazing.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the trailer looked pretty fucking amazing.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 8: So, yeah, I mean, just visually you should watch it. But, yeah, story-wise, like,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 8: I want to sit down and talk. Because I feel
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 8: like the basics of what's going on within scene-to-scene is.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: is, is great.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: And it all pans out and you get the story
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: comes together and.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 8: There's a couple of overarching things and I'm like, but,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 8: but wait, so what, what, what about this? And I
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 8: feel like you're kind of left on your own. And
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 8: only if they come through with like a sequel, which
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 8: I don't think is that far fetched really. If, if
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 8: they finish out that thought that I'm thinking one of
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 8: these overarching plots is it would make sense if they
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 8: came back later and did a sequel. So if they
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 8: do and they like follow through on some of these
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 8: grand plot lines, it would be.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: Way more interesting.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 8: As it stands, I'm like, I don't know what to
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 8: do with the overall story. But like the basic story
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 8: going on in front of your face is awesome. Like
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 8: it still like works and it's cool. And like it's
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 8: still I mean, Abigail Breslin is badass in it. Not
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 8: just the fight choreography, but again, she's just a solid
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 8: actress now. And Wes Bentley does his normal creepy weird
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 8: dude Wes Bentley thing.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 6: Did he talk about plastic bags at any point?
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 8: No, but he also didn't have creepy facial hair going on.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 8: He's cleaned up a few of the past.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: Mistakes that he's made in his acting career.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 8: So again, he's just a weird creepy dude that's piecing
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 8: all this together.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know. It's fun. I'm glad I watched it.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 6: Do you think I will like this movie?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 8: You'll probably have the same questions I have. That's why
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 8: I want to discuss them, but I don't know that
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 8: we're going to come out with anything. I think it'll
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 8: just be us saying the same thing.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: Like, what about? And it'll be a lot of that.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 6: Good times.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: But definitely worth watching.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 8: It's a very interesting idea and amazingly well photographed.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 6: Awesome sauce.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 8: So the other one, now this falls into a category
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 8: that you don't normally like, but this, I don't know.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: It's a documentary. This is almost the exception, though, because
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: this story is crazy down.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 8: And I'm not ruining it because it all really happened,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 8: so spoilers for real life.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: But the other one.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: Is called Lost Soul, colon, The Doomed Journey of Richard
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: Have you seen.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: The, what was.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: It, 90s era Island of Dr.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 9: Moreau?
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 6: No version whatsoever.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: That has your boy Iceman in it. Can you do
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: it again? Let's get in on mic.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 6: Did you get it? I can't do it very loud.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: My teeth have problems.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: You're probably not supposed to do that, much like Val Kilmer,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: which is why.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: I have this phobia with teeth, and I'm afraid that
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 6: if I clack them too hard, they will all shatter.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: And it made him. that phobia well see he wasn't
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: back in.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 8: Mid 90s well now he is that's what it comes
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 8: down to so basically this is a like it's not
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 8: amazingly shot it's not because that's usually my criteria for
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 8: documentaries is like if it's just a standard.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: Run of the mill you know my criteria for documentaries
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 6: are don't watch them and to not be documentaries.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 8: But that's the thing like a lot of people like
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 8: oh I saw this on Netflix I saw this and
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 8: like I watch a lot of them and they're just
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 8: kind of I may be interested in the story but
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 8: I still take points away if it's not like conceived
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 8: in a different way, shot in an interesting way, edited
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 8: in an interesting way. Like if you don't make it
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 8: something above and beyond the normal thing that you're going
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 8: to see on the history channel or some random, like
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 8: hour long TV documentary, like I, I can't give it
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 8: an amazing review because I'm like, the story itself might
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 8: be interesting.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: The filmmaking part of it falls through.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 8: This one doesn't really do anything amazing on the filmmaking end.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 8: It's talking heads. It's standard stuff put together from after
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 8: the fact. But the story is so freaking ridiculous and crazy.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: Richard Stanley is the guy that did Hardware, which we
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: watched on the show. Was I there for that?
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 6: No, I don't think it was.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 8: You were there for the first half, because we talk
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 8: about Black Santa's Revenge. Because only on this show would
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 8: we do hardware as a Christmas movie.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: Which it is, mind you.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 8: But yeah, for one of our Christmas specials, we did hardware.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 8: And he followed it up with Dust Devil, which I
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 8: also saw. That was back in the Joe Bob days,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 8: so I remember watching it when he sent it over.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 8: So yeah, those were still kind of indie movies and
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 8: kind of genre favorites. So at that point, he gets
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 8: enough attention from a studio that they're like, OK, we're
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 8: making this new adaptation.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: Of Island of Dr.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: Moreau. There's been, you know, the Island of Lost Souls
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: and like Universal Days.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 8: And then there's the 70s one with Michael York. And
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 8: it's so I mean, they've done a few versions before.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 8: But again, he was like he loved that book as
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 8: a kid. And like he's like, no, I want to make,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 8: you know, a real version of it. He was not
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 8: really thrilled with the 70s one like most people were.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 8: So wants to make this version. The studios are on board.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 8: Somehow the word gets to Marlon Brando to be Dr.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: Moreau. So at that point, it like bumps it up.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: It was going to be like a pretty low budget,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 5: you know, kind of sci-fi thing on an island. So
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 5: no big deal. Well, then by the time Brando is involved,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: it's like, okay, well now we're going to have to.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 6: That's when the nutty party starts.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 8: We're going to have to, you know, take it up
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 8: a notch. So then word gets to, like, Val Kilmer.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 8: And so Val Kilmer.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: Is at, like, 90s level. Like, that mid-90s, he's still at, like,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: the peak. Like, he's coming off of Batman.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 8: Like, at that point, he's right at the peak of
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 8: his popularity and kind of his power in Hollywood. And
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 8: you see this is what happens because that's where the
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 8: thing comes together and you get this weird power play of, like,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 8: How big of a dick can Val Kilmer be? By
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 8: the way, if you listen to these guys, the guys
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 8: on the set have all these stories about him.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: They're like, what the hell?
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 8: He's just being a dick for the sake of being
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 8: a dick. So watching him be a dick, Brando starts
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 8: just trying to sabotage it.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 5: Whether he was meaning to or not, he's an insane person.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 8: He has himself in whiteface for no reason, just pancake
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 8: batter all over his head.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: He's like it? He starts wearing the bucket on his head.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 8: But then there's the little dude. What has now become
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 8: a running joke in everything. The little guy on South
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 8: Park that hangs around with that guy that dresses like him.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 8: That's basically a monkey on South Park. That is stolen
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 8: from there. Mini-Me is pretty much just making fun of
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 8: the Brando role in this movie. And it was a
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 8: real thing. They found they were trying to come up
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 8: with all these weird different actors. And like, you know,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 8: this guy's missing a limb. He'll be weird to put
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 8: in the middle of this. Well, then they find, like, this,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 8: I think he's Spanish or something, and he's, like, tiny.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 5: He's, like, 18 inches.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know what he had.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: You just like to say that word.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: Progeria.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 8: He's, like, 18 inches tall. Like, he's, like, it's ridiculous.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: Like, it's amazing.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: You gotta say it like a Godzilla. Progeria!
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: It's like, it's amazing that he's alive and as tiny.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: As he is.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 6: And if you have progeria, I'm sorry, I'm not mocking
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 6: you or your disease.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 5: She just likes saying the word. It's the same reason
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 5: I say spina bifida all the time.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: Or a Juliana Magaliz.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 5: We're just entertained by fun words.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: Juliana Magaliz.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: We're special at four years old.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 6: My boyfriend gets so mad at me because whenever there's
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 6: commercials for The Good White Fawn, they're going to go, boyfriend, boyfriend,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 6: who is that? He's like, girlfriend, don't. I'm like, it's
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 6: Julianna Magaliz.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: Magaliz.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: So I'm not, like, making fun of the disease.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: We're making fun of how special we are.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: Horrible diseases should not have fun names.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: That is kind of an oversight on their part for
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: naming them that way.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 8: So, yeah, there's, like, this little guy, and for some reason, like,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 8: He was just brought on to be kind of like
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 8: an extra in the background. They were going to put
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 8: makeup on him and he was going to be some weird,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 8: you know, creature in the background.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: Brando thinks this guy is the greatest thing in the world.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: And he's like, I want him in all my scenes.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 5: I want him to be dressed like me in every scene.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 8: Like, this is all Brando. None of this is in
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 8: the script. It's all Brando being a crazy person. So
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 8: you start seeing, like, Brando coming up with these ridiculous ideas.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 8: Watch the movie. It's freaking amazing because... Just the things
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 8: that he's doing to sabotage the movie. The fact that
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 8: there becomes like a little standoff war of... Brando won't
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 8: come out of his trailer until Val Kilmer comes out
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 8: of his trailer.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: And Val won't come out of his trailer.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 8: I mean, you've got entire hordes of people in makeup.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 8: They're doing full creature makeup for all these extras. They're
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 8: all sitting in makeup in the heat on this island
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 8: waiting for these two idiots to come off of their
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 8: little pissing contest. We haven't even gotten to the director.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: So you learn.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 8: about the director and how much he's committed to it
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 8: and how much he wants to do it. I want
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 8: to like, that's the reason to watch it. When you
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 8: get midway in towards the end and start finding out the,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 8: the way that his plot line.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: His real life story comes about.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: Oh my God.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: It's insanity.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 8: I mean, the, the way that it turns out for
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 8: that director is so damn entertaining. So I, yeah, if
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 8: you have any interest in, in this insane.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: Version of Island, Dr. Moreau, Definitely watch this. Lost Soul.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: It's awesome.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 6: And he does not have progeria. I would attempt to
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 6: say it if you want me to.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: Because you like saying fun words.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 6: This one's not a fun word. This is a lot
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 6: of words with a lot of big letters. Well, I
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: guess the letters are all the same size, but they're
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 6: big words. There's a lot of letters in these words.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 6: Shut up. Microcephalic osteodysplastic primordial dwarfism type 2.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: That is too long a phrase.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 6: It's like M-O-P-D-2. That's like moped.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: He's got moped.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 6: That is a disease.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I do question sometimes these people on
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 5: their mopeds. Mopeds.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: Mopeds.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 5: People, we really need to get a fundraiser going for mopeds.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 6: They are a blight on humanity. Although I do love
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 6: Michael Moore's song about mopeds. Downtown.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 5: It's pretty entertaining, actually.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 8: I randomly heard it on the radio and went, what
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 8: is this and why am I not listening to more
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 8: of it?
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 6: Macklemore and Rowdy.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 5: It's pretty entertaining.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 6: Write songs about thrift stores and mopeds. What more do
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: you need in life?
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: Okay, sorry.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know. That's, I mean, yeah.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: Again, I can't, I can go on and tell you
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: more stuff, but it's worth watching.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 6: That's all right. I quit listening a long time ago.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: It's entertaining and it's, yeah.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 6: I was too busy looking up primordial dwarves.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 5: It's entertaining and worth watching if you like that sort
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 5: of thing.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 6: Watching dwarves is fun?
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 8: I mean, he's an interesting little dude. He speaks Spanish,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 8: and at one point, Marlon Brando pretends like he knows
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 8: what he's saying.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 6: Does he just kind of nod and say.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 8: No, that's why he liked him so much, because he
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 8: pretended like... Because there's another guy, and again, another crazy story.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 8: The other guy that was supposed to be... Because they
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 8: also do this back and forth on who was supposed
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 8: to have a role. Val Kilmer's the lead, and then
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 8: his ego trip is Oh, I don't want to do
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 8: that much time.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: I need my time on.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 8: Set to be cut back by 40 percent.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 5: So then they're like, what the hell do we do?
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 5: This is our lead. Like this is I mean, again,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: he's one of the biggest movie stars in.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: The world at that point. They're like, we're banking this.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 8: We're getting our funding, bringing people into the seats because
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 8: it's a Val Kilmer movie. And this jerk just decided
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 8: he doesn't want to be in most of the movie.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 8: So they bump him to like a side, like the
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 8: doctor's assistant role for a while. Like this is the
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 8: kind of shit that's going on.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 5: It's insanity.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 6: There's a reason I've never seen this movie.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 5: I kind of want to go back. Like I saw
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: it originally. I might have gone to the theater and
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: seen it.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: Oh my God.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 8: But anyway, I want to see it again now because
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 8: I want to look at the crazy Brando nonsense now
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 8: and see what all, because I've forgotten most of it.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: I blocked so much out that I'm kind of going
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 5: to have to go back and watch it now. It's just,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 5: it's insane. And it is very telling, I feel like,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 5: that two of the most plagued with horrible production films
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: both star Brando and an aging, pretty damn crazy Brando. Because,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, they've now made documentaries on both The Island
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: of Dr. Moreau and Apocalypse Now.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 6: That's a fun story.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: Both of which have gone to hell and Brando's kind
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: of behind the scenes. puppet master that he is destroying
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 5: films because he was an old crazy dude by that point. Oh, Brando.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 5: What the hell? So anyway, that's most of the movies
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: I've seen.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 6: I don't think I've seen anything else. Aside from Crimson Peak.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 5: Which I talked about, but what was your take on it? Awesome.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 6: Tom Hiddleston's butt.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 5: That's what brought you to the theater.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 6: I did not know there was going to be butt.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 6: It's probably a stunt butt.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: Don't you hate when that happens?
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 6: I do hate stunt butts. One of my very few
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 6: purchases today was I bought a Thomas Sharp little, whatever
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 6: they're called, the pop Funko figures or whatever.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 5: Those little tiny plastic dudes.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 6: With big heads.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 5: Blind boxes.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 6: No!
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: That was the other ones. What were the other ones?
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 5: What are those called?
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 6: They were the horror classics.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: Those were pretty cool.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 6: I got two of them today, and I got the
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 6: one that I was like, ooh, I really want this one.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 6: I wanted David from Lost Boys. And I got a
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 6: little Hitchcock, and.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 5: He's so Mitch Cox is awesome. I kind of want
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 5: to steal that.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 6: But the David one from Lost Boys has got little chopsticks.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: He does have chopsticks.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 6: And he's got a little takeout container.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: They're maggots.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 6: I love the Lost Boys. I was so excited for
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: that purchase. I don't think I bought anything else.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 5: I controlled myself for the most part.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 6: I wanted you to buy some more of those classic
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 6: and then if you got ones that I wanted I
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 6: would have bought them for you. Then when I went
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 6: back to buy more they were sold out. Motherfucker.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 5: They told you you could have the empty box, but.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: You wouldn't take it.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 6: Why do I want the empty box?
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: I've got enough shit on display.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 6: I've got enough shit on display as it is.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: You could make your own store.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: No, really, you could.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 5: Because I was thinking that with mine as I'm shifting
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 5: things around now.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 8: I'm just like, can I just set up a thrift
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 8: store and set it up directly out of the junk
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 8: in my house?
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to control myself.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 6: If you have a yard sale, don't sell anything I want.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 5: You don't make enough that way. I need high dollar value.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 8: I invested way too much in these things to give
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 8: them away for a quarter.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no shit.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: I gotta at least break even on some of these things.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 8: So, if you want to start the Movie Meltdown yard sale, guys,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 8: I can start posting it online.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 6: I'm having the Movie Meltdown Etsy page.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 8: Let me know if you want to buy my junk
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 8: that's been laying around my house, most of which is
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 8: Movie Geek related, so it does sort of fit.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 6: Will Samantha Massa stand up and say you're selling it? No.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: I'm staying right there.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 5: Alright, so, that was... The bulk of our day here
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 5: at the old Wizard World.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 6: I do love Wizard World.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of fun.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: Too many people, but that's good for them.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: People is a good thing for these. Otherwise, they don't
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 5: come back.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: I'm surprised they came back.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of conventions out there, so it's good
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 5: to see people are still supporting them.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 8: I still worry that we're going to hit to the
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 8: tipping point. We're going to over-saturate this market, but I
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 8: don't know.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 6: All these fucking conventions I've been to and I have
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 6: yet to find Mark Singer. What the fuck is up
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 6: with that?
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: What is up with that, by the way?
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 5: I was thinking that as I've got my poster waiting
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: for him to sign it.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, Don Coscarelli's cool. He shows up places. Mark Singer,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 6: I'm talking to you.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 8: Get yourself to this part of the world so we
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 8: can have you sign our poster.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 6: There's only like five people. There's not even five people
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 6: that I'm like uber concerned about. There's like two people
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 6: whose autograph I'm like, That person and that person, and
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 6: that's what I need before I die. And there's something
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: that's not reasonable. I'm not going to get Tom Hiddleston's
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 6: autograph in the really real world or Michael Fassbender. I'm
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 6: talking about reasonable requests. Mark Singer, I think, is a
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 6: reasonable request.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 8: Especially in the convention world. It really does seem like
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 8: we should run into him more often than the night
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 8: that we do.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 6: And R.L.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 8: Stine.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 6: Bucker is at a convention this weekend in one of
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 6: the Carolinas that's far away.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 5: Carolina people, let us know which one.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 6: I mean, the convention's y'all-fest.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: Thank God it's not here.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 6: Well, because it's young adults.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: I don't care.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 8: I try to redeem this part of the country as
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 8: best I can, but sometimes it's hopeless.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 6: You don't even know how sad. I was totally like, dude,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 6: I could make. But then I'm like, dude, it's 10
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 6: hours just to get there.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 10: So.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: I ordered an autographed copy, but it's not the same.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: It's him scrolling my name on it.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: It's not the same.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 6: It's not the same. So, R.L. Stanton, if you're out there, too,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 6: you pick up Mark Singer. Meet me in Louisville somewhere. Carpool.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 6: I can't think of anybody else. Anybody else that I
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 6: want to get their autograph is probably dead.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 8: Nimoy.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, under Nimoy.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: We missed the Nimoy window. Bones.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 6: DeForest Kelly.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 6: Original bones.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: I was just like, that TV show? I don't want
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: that Deschanel girl.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 6: No, fuck her. She's got a weird face.
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  Speaker 5: She's just mad because she's not as cute as her sister.
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  Speaker 5: And her sister kind of gets on my nerves now, too.
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  Speaker 5: So the whole Deschanel family is going down in their stock.
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  Speaker 6: And David Boreanaz, his hair has always been weird. What
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  Speaker 6: the fuck, dude?
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  Speaker 5: It's his trademark, man.
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  Speaker 4: Come on.
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  Speaker 6: It's just always been weird, even from Angel. I'm just like, dude,
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  Speaker 6: what the hell's up with your hair? At least Spike
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  Speaker 6: had decent hair. Not really, but yeah, that's who I want.
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  Speaker 6: DeForest Kelly. Actually, I would take DeForest Kelly over Leonard Nimoy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: These are going to be tough kids either way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 5: At least to have them sign it there in person
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  Speaker 5: for you.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, for realsies.
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  Speaker 5: Witherworld, see what you can do for future.
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  Speaker 6: When you resurrect me some DeForest Kelly.
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  Speaker 4: I will be impressed.
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  Speaker 6: No shit. I'll be first in line. I'll even pay
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  Speaker 6: for that photo op.
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  Speaker 10: Maybe.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, at.
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  Speaker 8: That point, check and see. Go to wizardworld.com and see
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  Speaker 8: who they have. They do have like 40 different things that.
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  Speaker 6: You can go.
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  Speaker 5: There's a ton of.
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  Speaker 8: Wizard World shows there all over the country. So we
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  Speaker 8: thank them for letting us be part of this one.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 8: So wizardworld.com and see where they will be next.
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  Speaker 6: And go there.
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  Speaker 5: See if you can get some of those dead people
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  Speaker 5: lined up. That'd be pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 6: Or Mark Singer.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: Or Mark Singer.
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  Speaker 4: He's not even dead yet.
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  Speaker 5: So please hurry up and get him.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 6: Because last time he almost died.
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  Speaker 8: No, we were going to see him. And then he
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 8: got some sort of horrible disease. It might have been Progeria.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 5: Progeria!
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 6: He didn't get Progeria.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 5: Don't get Spina Bifida, Mark.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: Just saying.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 6: Don't get Juliana Magaliz either.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 8: Don't get Magaliz. Please bring Margalise so we can get
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  Speaker 8: her to sign it. If you could get her to
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 8: sign it the way that we say it. I don't
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 8: even know how that is, but we really.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 5: Need to work on that.
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  Speaker 4: Juliana Margalise.
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  Speaker 5: We do have an in, though.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not even saying it correctly. It's part of the thing.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 5: We do have an in.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: Do we now?
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 8: Because Jess Weixler works on The Good Wife with.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: Juliana Margulies. So I'm going to put.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 5: The word into jest. Tell her to get.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: Does she know Mark Singer?
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 4: Juliana Margulies.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 6: Does Juliana Margulies know Mark Singer?
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 5: Are you still arranging that carpool?
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: Juliana, look, get in the car.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 5: Swing by R.L. Stine's house.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 8: Now, while you're coming down the 151, that might be
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 8: a made-up highway, pick up Mark Singer and get on
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 8: over here.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 6: I'll take him out to dinner. White Castle it is.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 6: I would take them all the way, Castle.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: As long as you don't want fancy food, we'll even
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 5: spring for dinner.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 6: Hey, don't even talk, bitch. I will spring for them
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 6: chicken ring sandwiches, and they are not cheap.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: Classy living, Misty.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 6: With cheese.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: Classy living.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: Cheese, too.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 6: Not the real sticks.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, Lord.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: On that note, I think we better wrap this up
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: and get out of here.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 6: I know, dude. It's gotten dark on the roof.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 8: So once again, thank you to Epion5 for talking to
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 8: us this episode, and he might just turn up in
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 8: a future episode.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: Just saying.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 8: And once again, wizardworld.com. Go see what else they have
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 8: in the works. Otherwise, that about does it. We will
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 8: return next time. Same geek feed.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 4: Bye.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: One day, someday, or in a whole nother lifetime.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 7: So the first time that my love died, she was crazy.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 7: And the second time, just blew my mind, she was crazy.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 7: i don't know what i'm supposed to do cause i.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: Got someone and baby so do you it was the
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: third of september we were hanging up on.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 7: The roof was the hot hot night we were having
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 7: a barbecue and i said hi you said hi baby
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 7: that's when i knew i just can't We were hanging
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 7: up on the roof Someone got knocked out In came
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 7: the voice.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: In blue And you slipped by, I slipped by Someone
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: had made the news I just, I just can't, can't
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: take my mind off.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 4: Bye.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 10: Bye.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 7: Baby, rushing down the stairs, I see you go.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: It was the saddest thing that I will ever know.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: It was the 3rd of September. We were hanging up
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: on the roof.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: It was a hot, hot night.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 7: We were having a barbecue.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: And I said hi. You said hi. Baby, that's when
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: I knew. I just, I just can't, can't take my
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: mind off you. It was a night. Do you remember
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: we were hanging up on the roof? Someone got knocked out.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: In came the voice in blue. And you slipped by,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: not slipped by. Somebody made the news. I just, I
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: just can't, can't take my mind off you. One night
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: on the rooftop. One night on the rooftop, rooftop. One
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: night on the rooftop, at the rooftop, rooftop. One night
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: on the rooftop. We could be so great. We could
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: be happy. One day, someday.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: It was the 3rd of September.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: We were hanging up on the roof. It was the
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: 3rd of September. Baby, that's when I knew I just,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: I just can't, can't take my mind off you It
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: was a night to remember We were hanging up on
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: the roof Someone got knocked out.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: He came to push the door.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: And you slipped by, I slipped by Some of that
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: made the news I just, I just can't, can't take
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: my mind off you.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 4: I can't take my mind.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: Off you I'm hurting with so much I can't stop.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 6: Why won't they get Marcina here?
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 5: Because he doesn't like us. That might be it.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 6: Is she still doing it or is she?
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: Don't turn the flash.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 6: Flash is off. I can't even see her.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 4: I don't need light.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 5: I can geek out over movies in the middle of
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 5: the night.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 6: She's standing on one leg like a fucking flamingo. Is
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 6: she walking off?
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 5: Is she coming this way? She's tired of you making
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 5: fun of her.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 6: Oh, she's getting a pose again. Let's get the camera
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 6: out again. Oh, yeah, he's taking pictures of her. That's
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 6: not weird.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 5: See, I told you my brain doesn't resonate. Dick.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: Dick York. Dick Sergeant.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 5: Sergeant York.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 6: Heh, cool. She's not even wearing a costume. She's in
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 6: jeans and a hoodie. This is not fucking sexy appeal
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 6: right here.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 5: This is very strange. All of this shenanigan fest.
• 1:43:40
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• 1:43:43
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• 1:43:46
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• 1:43:49
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• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: Talk hard!