Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Women Around the World: Dr. Pragati Singh
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff
- 0:08Speaker 1: I've never told your production of iHeart Radio. And yes,
- 0:19Speaker 1: welcome for another edition of Women Around the World. Do
- 0:25Speaker 1: I'm just gonna try newoddle theme songs every time? I think?
- 0:28Speaker 1: What do you think? Any I think that that is
- 0:31Speaker 1: just asking for somebody to make a super cut of
- 0:35Speaker 1: all between Christina and super producer Andrew, who has moved
- 0:41Speaker 1: on to bigger and better shows I have, they have
- 0:44Speaker 1: a lot of blackmail. I think I'm not gonna think
- 0:46Speaker 1: too much about it, hoping that it just got a
- 0:48Speaker 1: race slowly. Well that is a mistake, but I will
- 0:52Speaker 1: support you and your face misplaced face, that's true, very misplaced.
- 0:59Speaker 1: But other than that, we are still celebrating Pride Month
- 1:03Speaker 1: and wanted to make sure we keep highlighting the people
- 1:06Speaker 1: who are doing some amazing work when it comes to
- 1:09Speaker 1: advocating for the LGBTQ plus community. And I have been
- 1:13Speaker 1: all up in your business Annie for a little while now,
- 1:16Speaker 1: and yes this has all been with permission, and make
- 1:18Speaker 1: sure because I think it's really interesting that we keep
- 1:21Speaker 1: having this conversation of unfolding what sexuality is or can be,
- 1:26Speaker 1: or can be perceived and We've talked a lot about
- 1:29Speaker 1: what it is to be ACE or a sexual and
- 1:32Speaker 1: why it's important that we continue to talk about this
- 1:34Speaker 1: and de stigmatize some of the things that come around
- 1:37Speaker 1: with being a sexual or realizing that you're a sexual.
- 1:41Speaker 1: But I wanted to give you, I think a fairly
- 1:43Speaker 1: easy question. Yes you said it before, but just to
- 1:46Speaker 1: kind of give us a little better When wasn't that
- 1:48Speaker 1: you first learned about a sexuality or being ACE. It
- 1:52Speaker 1: was on this very show when I first was editing,
- 1:56Speaker 1: when I was a video editor for the Stuff We
- 1:59Speaker 1: Never Told You YouTube channel, so I probably was like
- 2:03Speaker 1: twenty two and the host and creator, Kristen, she did
- 2:08Speaker 1: a a video called the A B C S of Ace, which, yes,
- 2:12Speaker 1: that's what we named our episode that we did with
- 2:14Speaker 1: Adoha Danzo, but her video was much more like A
- 2:19Speaker 1: is for a sexual, B is for by romantic and
- 2:22Speaker 1: you know, much more in the title. And I had
- 2:26Speaker 1: never heard of it before, and at the time it
- 2:30Speaker 1: seemed impossible to me, not that it existed, but that
- 2:34Speaker 1: it was how I identified. I've been thinking about why
- 2:38Speaker 1: that is lately, and I think it's just one of
- 2:41Speaker 1: those things where if you grow up in sort of
- 2:45Speaker 1: homogeneous space where what you're seeing is a lot of
- 2:48Speaker 1: heteronormative stuff and your entertainment people around you. Then it
- 2:51Speaker 1: just feels like, well, that can't be me, even if
- 2:53Speaker 1: I was pretty like I think I bisexual. But that
- 2:57Speaker 1: is also when I learned about how you can be
- 2:59Speaker 1: like a sexual and bi romantic, which is where I
- 3:03Speaker 1: think I am. But now I'm also like, maybe I'm
- 3:07Speaker 1: very sexual or do bisexual Because there's so many avenues
- 3:10Speaker 1: of identity, it's hard to put into one label or
- 3:16Speaker 1: one word. And so I think that that's been really
- 3:19Speaker 1: interesting for me, a learning process for me and for
- 3:21Speaker 1: all of us as we're learning, Oh, I'm not the
- 3:24Speaker 1: only one that feels this way, that there are other
- 3:27Speaker 1: people who are trying to figure out how the emotional
- 3:33Speaker 1: aspect works and the sexual aspect works, and the romantic
- 3:36Speaker 1: aspect works, and how they all work together or don't.
- 3:39Speaker 1: So I was pretty it was pretty late in the
- 3:41Speaker 1: game when I found out, and I think it was
- 3:42Speaker 1: pretty much later because a lot of you got to
- 3:46Speaker 1: hear me go through it on this show, kind of
- 3:48Speaker 1: like figuring it out that I was like, you know,
- 3:50Speaker 1: maybe this is a possibility for me, Maybe this is correct,
- 3:55Speaker 1: and how I am yeah right, And again I think
- 3:58Speaker 1: it's a beautiful process. And maybe it is because I
- 4:02Speaker 1: have been with you for a chunk of this process
- 4:04Speaker 1: that I really am fascinated and as well as like,
- 4:08Speaker 1: I love that you're finding yourself. Um, and when people
- 4:11Speaker 1: find themselves, it's such a whole like turning on the
- 4:13Speaker 1: light moment that you get to witness and it's just
- 4:16Speaker 1: like a privilege. But speaking of getting to witness, we
- 4:20Speaker 1: wanted to celebrate the queer community and activists of Dr
- 4:25Speaker 1: Pragotti Singh, who is a doctor, has been a public
- 4:28Speaker 1: health professional and it's the founder of the Indian aces
- 4:31Speaker 1: dot com if you need to know, which was created
- 4:34Speaker 1: and originally in two to form the Indian subcontinent's first
- 4:39Speaker 1: support group for a sexual people. She was working in maternal,
- 4:43Speaker 1: child and reproductive health when she began her work and
- 4:45Speaker 1: advocating for the Indian as community. Born in Delhi, she
- 4:48Speaker 1: talks about how little has been made available to support
- 4:52Speaker 1: the a sexual community in India and how she feels
- 4:55Speaker 1: it's long overdue. This is actually something that's come up
- 4:57Speaker 1: with me in therapy where my therapist is like have
- 4:59Speaker 1: you booked or they're a sexual support groups in Atlanta
- 5:03Speaker 1: and I have and there are, but they're pretty Maybe
- 5:07Speaker 1: I haven't looked deep enough that they seems like pretty
- 5:09Speaker 1: small and not you know, too much going on there.
- 5:12Speaker 1: But I should check I should check back in. The
- 5:14Speaker 1: support group that scene created started out on Facebook, though
- 5:18Speaker 1: it really didn't pick up until when someone reached out
- 5:21Speaker 1: to her to find out more about the group. Doctor
- 5:24Speaker 1: Seeing stated she had looked for quite a while for
- 5:26Speaker 1: a group like this, and when she couldn't find one,
- 5:28Speaker 1: she decided to create one herself. Love it. We love
- 5:31Speaker 1: these stories, yes, and as in fact, she talks about
- 5:33Speaker 1: the fact that she sees herself as gray sexual. And
- 5:37Speaker 1: I actually had to ask about that because I'm like,
- 5:39Speaker 1: oh my goodness, this is a new term. Let me
- 5:40Speaker 1: let me look this up. Because I found that fascinating.
- 5:43Speaker 1: I was like, okay, um, of course, and he was
- 5:45Speaker 1: able to tell me about fain fiction just all know.
- 5:48Speaker 1: But I was correction. Doctor Seeing stated about the group
- 5:54Speaker 1: quote Indian aces was I dated when I realized there
- 5:57Speaker 1: was a lot of a sexual people from India looking
- 6:00Speaker 1: for a community platform, but they just didn't have anything.
- 6:04Speaker 1: I kept looking for a really long time for such
- 6:06Speaker 1: a platform, but there wasn't any I started with something
- 6:09Speaker 1: as simple as Facebook page with the memes and information
- 6:12Speaker 1: on a sexuality. I had never really envisioned it to
- 6:15Speaker 1: become as big a movement that it has now. We
- 6:18Speaker 1: do a lot of other things such as research, advocacy,
- 6:21Speaker 1: awareness sessions, a lot of campaigns, online and offline meetups, training,
- 6:25Speaker 1: and academic and non academic work, and the movement has
- 6:28Speaker 1: created so much for the community. Not only does she
- 6:31Speaker 1: do training and meetups and awareness sessions, but she also
- 6:34Speaker 1: has been invited to do medical conferences such as the
- 6:37Speaker 1: World Association of Sexual Health, where she was able to
- 6:40Speaker 1: present her research on her sexuality studies, and she was
- 6:44Speaker 1: published in the Journal of Sexual Medicine by l Severe.
- 6:47Speaker 1: She has continued to speak out about why having such
- 6:50Speaker 1: research and studies are important in supporting the community, and
- 6:53Speaker 1: how her professional background has helped her as well. She said,
- 6:58Speaker 1: in all my academic and professional experience, there's been little
- 7:00Speaker 1: to no discourse regarding sexuality, even though I've studied medicine
- 7:04Speaker 1: and worked in reproductive health. This is pretty much the
- 7:06Speaker 1: norm here. Sexuality just isn't in the forefront. Yet we
- 7:10Speaker 1: still have mothers and neonates dying from sexist diarrhea and hemorrhage.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Sexual health just isn't a priority. In fact, whatever understanding
- 7:18Speaker 1: I have of sexuality today is honestly in spite of
- 7:21Speaker 1: my medical education. That being said, I feel like my
- 7:23Speaker 1: qualification helps add credibility to the cases I make, such
- 7:27Speaker 1: as me saying that hormonal imbalance does have an effect
- 7:30Speaker 1: on libido or that certain medications do affect arousal probably
- 7:34Speaker 1: doesn't sound as far affected to my audience as it
- 7:36Speaker 1: would if I were not a doctor. Right, And she
- 7:38Speaker 1: continues on talking about the importance of our work and
- 7:41Speaker 1: overall sexual health education, saying sexuality is a hugely taboo
- 7:46Speaker 1: topic in India. This is not limited to personal spaces,
- 7:49Speaker 1: but even academic and professional spaces. Additionally, the many other
- 7:53Speaker 1: problems of third world countries take precedence over sexuality related issues,
- 7:57Speaker 1: which are largely considered unimportant or at least non critical.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Never Mind the fact that we have the world's largest
- 8:03Speaker 1: youth population. Never mind the fact that the sexual harassment
- 8:06Speaker 1: and abuse is a rampant in our nation. Never mind
- 8:08Speaker 1: that marital rape is not considered rape as such an
- 8:11Speaker 1: Indian law. To top all of this, there's no real
- 8:14Speaker 1: sexual ed in our educational institutes, and the pressure to
- 8:17Speaker 1: get made by age twenty five for women in age
- 8:19Speaker 1: thirty four men is huge in our culture. All of
- 8:23Speaker 1: this basically means that for someone who's a sexual in India,
- 8:26Speaker 1: their adolescents would be a period of great confusion owing
- 8:29Speaker 1: to the lack of awareness and agency available right now.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Their youth may probably be marred with unhealthy, broken relationships,
- 8:36Speaker 1: with multiple fail attempts at having a quote normal youth experience.
- 8:40Speaker 1: And she even tried different things to help a sexuals
- 8:42Speaker 1: and Indian communities, including a matchmaking app. Though no longer operational,
- 8:47Speaker 1: it was originally intended to help match people all over
- 8:49Speaker 1: the world with a fairly elaborate foreign process. However, because
- 8:53Speaker 1: of the overwhelming response, she was not able to handle
- 8:56Speaker 1: it and has since shut it down. But she did
- 8:58Speaker 1: talk about the overall fact that's apps or something that
- 9:01Speaker 1: should be looked into and maybe we'll they will look
- 9:03Speaker 1: at later again. Um And interestingly, I know we talked
- 9:07Speaker 1: about that in our a Sexual episode, because that is
- 9:09Speaker 1: a plot point on bo Jack Horsemen is a sexual
- 9:14Speaker 1: and he tries to create the app. Yeah yeah, yeah,
- 9:17Speaker 1: So she actually did it. It didn't last very long.
- 9:20Speaker 1: But she was intent in trying to help a matchmaking
- 9:24Speaker 1: scene because, as she talks about, with the Indian pressures
- 9:27Speaker 1: to get married and oftentimes feeling like you have to
- 9:30Speaker 1: force to be there, that maybe if you could find
- 9:32Speaker 1: another a sexual partner, that it would make marriage better.
- 9:36Speaker 1: So being able to be a part of that cultural moment,
- 9:40Speaker 1: I guess, and pleasing the families, maybe finding a partner
- 9:43Speaker 1: who meets that same level as you do. So she
- 9:46Speaker 1: was talking about trying to creating all of this um
- 9:49Speaker 1: Apparently she tried to do it offline as well. I'm
- 9:52Speaker 1: not really sure what that means or what that looks like,
- 9:55Speaker 1: but yeah, she had it going internationally, so she was
- 9:58Speaker 1: trying real hard to get it all out there, including Egypt, Spain, Canada,
- 10:03Speaker 1: and she had like two hundred more responses than she
- 10:06Speaker 1: thought she was going to have, like two hundred more,
- 10:08Speaker 1: and she's like, Okay, never mind, I can't do all
- 10:11Speaker 1: of this. I couldn't imagine being a medical professional, yeah,
- 10:15Speaker 1: and trying to do all of that. So, you know,
- 10:18Speaker 1: kudos for trying, But it does sound like there's a need.
- 10:20Speaker 1: People want that to happen. People want to see that happening,
- 10:24Speaker 1: and maybe someone can, but it shouldn't be a surprise
- 10:27Speaker 1: that she has been awarded Mania accolaise and deservedly so.
- 10:32Speaker 1: And so those include being on the BBC one Women
- 10:35Speaker 1: Award in twenty nineteen, which we've talked about a few times.
- 10:38Speaker 1: That's how I've founded several of our people to talk about.
- 10:41Speaker 1: She was on the Young Achieved Award in twenty eighteen
- 10:44Speaker 1: from the Duti Government. She was awarded the Orange Flower
- 10:47Speaker 1: Award in twenty seventeen by the Women's Web. She was
- 10:50Speaker 1: awarded the Best Oral Paper Presentation in twenty seventeen. Uh
- 10:54Speaker 1: and with the Nobel Laureate as well. So very amazing
- 10:57Speaker 1: things and obviously she continues to do a lot of
- 11:00Speaker 1: amazing work for those around her community. Yeah, and if
- 11:04Speaker 1: you want to go check her out. She has her
- 11:06Speaker 1: own website, Dr Pragatti sing as well as her other site,
- 11:11Speaker 1: indianases dot com. And if you're actually in India, I
- 11:15Speaker 1: don't know if anybody listens from India. If you do,
- 11:17Speaker 1: shout us out, would love to hear from you if
- 11:19Speaker 1: you can check it out, and now you can get
- 11:21Speaker 1: involved there as well within that growing community. So really
- 11:25Speaker 1: amazing work. Love seeing things like this and I love,
- 11:28Speaker 1: just how everything kind of comes together. You're like, look
- 11:29Speaker 1: at this big community, it's so big in their international
- 11:33Speaker 1: is just full of love, just like us. Yes, yes,
- 11:41Speaker 1: it's lovely to see and as always, listeners, we do
- 11:45Speaker 1: love hearing from you. If you have any people you
- 11:47Speaker 1: would like us to talk about in this segment or
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