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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Athletes Announcing Their Intentions for 2025 · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  what is going on everybody
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  welcome to sunday sunday
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  sunday night crossfit talk
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  back at our regularly
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  scheduled time for the
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  foreseeable future um happy
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  to be with you guys tonight
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  algorithm and we would
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  appreciate that so much um
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  good to see craig and
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  We're going to catch up a little bit,
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  and then we're going to
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  dive into the CrossFit news.
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  I always like to see this.
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  Kenneth DeLapp with the
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  original Sunday Night CrossFit talk.
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  That's us.
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  We got Jody.
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  We got Andrew.
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  We got Julian.
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  And people are coming in fast and furious.
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  Awesome.
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  Good to see you guys tonight.
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  So I'm going to start off
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  with tonight is the
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  fiftieth anniversary show
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  of Saturday Night Live.
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  And I am much older than the two of you.
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  And I was five years old
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  when Saturday Night Live hit the air.
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  Wow.
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  So, yeah, I am much older than you guys.
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  But it has been a fabric of my life.
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  Like my whole entire life.
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  And it peaked when I was a
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  bouncer at a bar.
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  We used to videotape on VHS
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  Saturday Night Live while
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  we were on our shift.
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  And when we were done with our shift,
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  everybody would come back
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  to my apartment and we
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  would watch Saturday Night
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  Live together and like have
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  a couple beers to unwind so
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  we could sleep.
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  And it just became a thing
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  that we did every week.
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  And I've always been a fan,
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  always watched it.
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  And I was watching the red
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  carpet before I came down to do this.
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  And I just was smiling ear to ear,
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  giddy with all the memories
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  of Cernet Live.
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  It was yesterday, wasn't it?
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  Because I saw a bunch of
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  highlight videos of it.
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  So they had a concert.
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  Okay, that's what I saw.
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  I saw the performances of the concert.
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  Right.
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  Like highlights of it.
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  Tonight is the actual show.
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  So they do Saturday Night
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  Live on Sunday night?
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  Well, it's only this week.
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  Okay.
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  to commemorate it,
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  and it's a big special on NBC,
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  and it's a three-hour show
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  instead of an hour and a half,
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  but everybody has come back,
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  like Eddie Murphy, Billy Crystal,
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  Martin Short, Will Ferrell.
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  Last night,
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  they actually ran the first
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  ever show from the show.
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  It's the first.
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  It's also the NBA All-Star game today, too,
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  right now.
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  So interesting that they
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  would put it on the same as a, I mean,
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  the all-star games are not
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  what they used to be,
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  except if you are into the hockey world,
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  that was amazing.
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  The,
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  the four nations competition
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  tournament is amazing, but yeah,
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  the all-star basketball stuff is tonight.
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  Well, I'm not a huge basketball fan,
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  so you'll lose me there.
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  I used to be a big dunk contest fan.
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  But again, I'm older than you guys.
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  I grew up in the Jordan, Dominique,
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  Spud Webb era.
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  And it really fell off for a
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  long time from that.
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  And so they lost me for that.
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  The one guy was impossible.
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  Miss Canada.
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  Sorry, I didn't hear that.
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  The four nations hockey event last night.
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  I did watch that miss Canada.
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  Yeah, that was, uh,
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  that was the start of it was crazy.
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  It was.
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  Three fights in nine seconds.
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  Yeah, it was just setting the tone.
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  I mean,
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  we haven't had best on best for the
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  men's hockey in almost like ten years,
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  just because of what the
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  NHL will allow players to participate in,
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  stuff like that.
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  And even at the Olympics,
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  you don't even always get
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  your top people that will want to compete,
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  because...
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  A lot of them like that,
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  like male athletes, like the Olympics,
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  if they're playing professional sports,
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  just isn't as meaningful.
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  Like as like the female athletes were like,
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  that is their top moment in their sport.
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  And yeah,
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  to see the best on best action is
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  like so brilliant,
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  like so much better than
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  the all-star games that
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  they had prior where like,
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  you just don't try as much.
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  Like there were some big
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  hits and clearly some
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  hatred and some fighting going on and
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  uh yeah I think it was it's
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  been a great move to do
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  this ken walters said my
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  son's old college line mate
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  is on usa jake ketzel who
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  actually was drafted by the
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  pittsburgh penguins and on
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  one of their cup teams um
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  stanley cup winning teams
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  uh he's awesome but it I
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  will tell you it was some
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  of the most entertaining
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  hockey I've seen in a long time
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  We'll be,
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  we'll get our river and us just
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  so if people are not watching USA,
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  punch their ticket to the
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  championship game,
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  Canada can make it back to that.
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  But they USA beat Canada
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  last night leading up into,
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  and that got USA the bid to
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  the championship game.
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  Now Canada can still get there,
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  which I do because it's,
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  it's going to be the best game.
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  Yeah.
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  They have to beat Finland next,
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  and then they'll be in the
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  finals if they can beat Finland.
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  Yeah, our top defense is out.
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  Our team played okay.
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  I thought they were a little flat,
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  but the hockey is just fast, though.
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  They're finishing their checks.
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  It's physical, and they're trying to win.
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  It's not just a fun game.
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  It's meaningful to all the teams.
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  It's cool to watch.
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  I wish the basketball did the same thing.
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  I wish that all of these
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  games tonight and you have
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  the OGs versus the rising
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  stars and the team world
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  and stuff like that.
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  I wish that they would take
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  it seriously and throw down.
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  They play harder in their
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  summer league pickup games
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  than they do at this all-star game.
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  It's so annoying because fans,
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  they want to see the best
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  on best and just go.
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  Team versus the world would
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  be an awesome NBA match.
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  It's just the worst seeing
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  professional athletes not even try.
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  It's just a lack of respect for the game.
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  And for the people that are
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  paying to watch.
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  Just do your best.
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  Who cares if you lose?
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  At least you tried.
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  Well, back to SNL.
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  Any favorite characters?
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  Any favorite cast members?
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  Any favorite sketches?
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  Yes.
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  I didn't watch a whole lot of SNL.
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  I'd probably say like Chris Farley,
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  maybe Will Ferrell.
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  I mean,
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  I've always been a Will Ferrell fan.
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  That shows our age difference.
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  Yeah, I don't know.
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  I just always watch like the
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  highlights of like certain
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  skits that might go on to
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  Instagram or something.
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  But I can't say that I like
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  actually sit down and watch
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  Saturday Night Live at any
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  point really like as a show.
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  Just highlights of stuff.
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  And it's always comical.
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  Like it's the monologues,
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  all that stuff and what
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  they do and things they make fun of.
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  It's great.
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  Yeah.
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  So my my favorite cast
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  member ever is Eddie Murphy.
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  And that's like that's old school.
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  That's before you guys were
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  probably even born when he was coming up.
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  He was he hit ninety percent of the time.
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  He was like a baseball
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  player hit nine hundred
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  every time he was on screen.
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  It was hilarious.
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  With Gumby, Buckwheat, James Brown,
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  Celebrity Hot Tub, all those things.
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  He just was always on fire.
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  And then my wife and I, or just me,
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  three times for Halloween
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  were SNL characters.
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  That's funny.
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  so I went as Matt Foley the
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  motivational speaker Chris
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  Farley's character uh one
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  year for Halloween uh her
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  and I went as Hans and
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  Franz um the bodybuilders
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  that idolized um Arnold
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  Schwarzenegger and um we
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  one year we went as the duo
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  that sang uh blanket a box
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  the Justin Timberlake, Andy Samberg,
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  nineties.
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  Uh,
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  and my wife actually put a beard on and,
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  um,
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  did the whole bit with the suit and
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  she had a, in a box.
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  And we actually had them.
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  If you open the box, you saw a piece.
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  I like pantyhose stuffed in there.
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  Um, but that was, uh,
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  To me, anytime Justin Timberlake hosts,
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  I watch because he's so good on there.
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  Yeah, he does a good job.
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  And then one of the amazing
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  facts that I learned is
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  Alec Baldwin has hosted the
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  show seventeen times.
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  Wow.
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  Which is amazing.
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  But so many of our pop
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  culture icons have come
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  from Saturday Night Live,
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  like Adam Sandler and Chris Farley and
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  Billy Crystal and Chevy
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  chase and Bill Murray.
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  And I mean, they just go on and on and on.
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  Um, crazy.
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  Uh, yeah,
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  it was all pre Beverly Hills cop.
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  I think it was during the
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  filming of the first forty
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  eight hours is when he was on SNL.
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  Uh, Phil Hartman was amazing.
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  Uh,
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  Regrettably, he's no longer with us,
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  but he was like one of
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  those glue characters who
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  could play any man and do everything,
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  like him and Daryl Hammond.
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  Kristen Wiig is great at that.
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  Cecily Tyson.
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  What else do we got here?
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  Beastie Boys had a great performance.
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  Dana Carvey, gosh, she's another one.
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  Church Lady, Hans and Franz.
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  So yeah, Buckwheat was fire.
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  So much fun.
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  But that will be my day tomorrow.
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  I will watch the rebroadcast
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  on Peacock tomorrow and
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  catch up on everything and
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  probably talk about it on
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  one of the lunch shows this week.
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  But I just wanted to bring
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  it up because we don't have
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  a ton of CrossFit news this
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  week and we had a little bit of time.
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  I should have put in the
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  Four Nations tournament
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  because I knew that would
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  be a good conversation with Carolyn.
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  It'll be better conversation
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  next week if we win.
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  So it'll get brought up either way.
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  If we win, I'll bring it up.
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  If you win, you'll bring it up.
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  Yep.
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  Do you guys have any fun
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  Valentine's plans?
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  We didn't do anything.
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  Did you?
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  We went to a local
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  restaurant with friends for
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  half-priced appetizers.
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  Ooh.
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  but we only had like forty
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  five minutes because they
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  had eighty five reservations.
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  So the only way they would
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  allow us to sit is if we
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  promised we would leave in
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  forty five minutes.
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  Holy smokes.
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  Yeah.
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  I worked out and then Lex
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  ordered me some local
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  burrito place for me to
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  pick up on the way home
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  because she's in California.
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  So that's a way to my heart right there.
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  You know,
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  Some food, good food after a workout.
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  That's all I needed.
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  Yeah.
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  We just got pizza.
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  We didn't want to deal with
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  trying to go to a
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  restaurant and do anything.
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  So basic.
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  Did I, did I take you to rusty bucket?
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  Yes.
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  So that's, that's where we went.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  The place is good.
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  Yeah.
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  They have from four to six
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  now every weekday,
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  all their appetizers are half price.
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  That's awesome.
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  And they have chicken wings
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  and they have salads.
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  And so you can get chicken
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  wings and a salad for half price.
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  It's a pretty good deal.
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  Heck yeah.
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  I'd be in heaven.
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  And then I got Julie an
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  order from chocolates.com.
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  How's she doing?
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  She's doing great.
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  She's actually not using the
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  cane at times now.
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  For short little jaunts across the house.
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  But she still feels unstable long times,
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  long periods on it.
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  But she's itching to get back to work.
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  She's hoping to be cleared soon.
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  Like her and I being
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  together twenty four seven.
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  We both are ready for a little alone time.
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  Are you able to get in like
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  go to the gym or do a workout?
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  Yeah.
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  So I actually paused my
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  membership at Polaris until
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  I got over the AFib and got
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  her through everything she
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  needs to get through.
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  But when I pause,
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  I still have access to all
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  of their programming.
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  So I'm doing,
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  I'm pretty much just doing
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  body weight stuff in my basement.
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  They love,
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  they have like a body weight
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  track that you can follow.
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  Yeah, and if not,
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  I just convert it to
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  something that I can do.
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  And then as it warms up,
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  I'll go back out to the garage.
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  And then it opens back up
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  April first to full membership again.
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  Cool.
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  But that'll give me enough
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  time to be on this new
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  medicine and my heart rate
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  for three months.
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  And then I can regulate it
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  better doing body weight stuff too.
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  So...
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  I know that it's meat and
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  veggies and some fruit, seeds, nuts,
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  no sugar,
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  but it's Valentine's Day and my
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  wife spent it through the
• 14:47
  rehab and she's been killing the rehab.
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  She's been losing weight through the rehab,
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  which has been awesome.
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  If she wants a couple
• 14:56
  chocolate-covered pretzels,
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  which is what I got her, she's okay.
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  Aaron got me crumble cookies.
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  I was like,
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  you're just trying to sabotage me.
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  I
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  Can you eat a whole crumble cookie?
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  Oh, no.
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  I eat like an eighth of it.
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  They last me a week.
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  They're so rich and so big.
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  They are.
• 15:22
  Jodi Lynn says EMOMs are the way.
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  Yeah.
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  I love EMOMs.
• 15:27
  Polaris,
• 15:28
  most of their stuff is interval work.
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  So it allows me to like do short sets,
• 15:33
  check my heart rate, short set,
• 15:35
  check my heart rate.
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  And they're usually like
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  four minutes on three
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  minutes or four minutes on
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  two minutes off stuff like that.
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  Um, so yeah, we do a lot of those too.
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  Um,
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  so we'll get into some CrossFit stuff
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  last week.
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  We talked about, uh,
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  the new CrossFit podcast
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  that launched last week and
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  the first episode dropped,
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  I believe on Tuesday morning.
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  Um, and I watched it.
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  It had, it was Nicole Carroll.
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  And it was really, really good.
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  But it is a clear departure
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  from the sport and more
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  about the methodology at this point.
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  Anyway, there's only one episode,
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  but we looked at the trailer.
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  The trailer seems much more
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  in the affiliates, not so much the sport.
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  But in it,
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  Nicole Carroll talks about that
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  CrossFit has lost their way.
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  And that they need to work
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  to get back to what's most important.
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  And through that,
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  she no longer is the head
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  of the education department.
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  She is now the head of the brand.
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  Well, what's most important?
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  Does she say that?
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  So all of this media that
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  has been coming out are
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  things that she has
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  developed to promote the brand.
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  Okay.
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  And then when Jenna came on
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  as the new media leader, marketing,
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  chief marketing officer.
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  Yeah.
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  Then she's been helping her
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  push it all out.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  So the reason you've seen
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  all the change on the,
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  on the YouTube channel and
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  like the trainers YouTube channel and, um,
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  this new podcast and the
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  different advertisements
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  for the open different ad, you know,
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  different advertisers for L one,
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  that's all the stuff that
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  she's been working on.
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  And now Jenna is helping her
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  get it all out.
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  Um,
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  which I,
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  which I found fascinating because
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  she was the head of
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  education for the entirety
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  of CrossFit almost.
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  I guess I'd just be curious
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  what Nicole's I haven't watched it,
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  obviously.
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  Um,
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  what she feels is the way and what
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  we're missing.
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  Like, is it, is it media?
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  Is it just the methodology in general?
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  I mean,
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  longevity and like I
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  understand they're probably
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  pushing away from the sport
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  side but in some aspects a
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  lot of people say the sport
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  side is what grew crossfit
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  so I don't know like if you
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  really want to separate
• 18:35
  that I don't think it it I
• 18:39
  don't think it's it it's
• 18:42
  she's not picking a side
• 18:43
  between sport and
• 18:44
  methodology I think what
• 18:46
  she's talking about is
• 18:47
  their message got lost
• 18:50
  And it's okay to say they're
• 18:52
  the best option available
• 18:56
  and to tout that they are
• 18:57
  the best option available and, um,
• 19:02
  not be afraid to talk about it,
• 19:04
  talk about it a lot,
• 19:05
  get the message out there a lot.
• 19:07
  It's,
• 19:08
  it's not about picking between sport
• 19:10
  and methodology.
• 19:11
  It's about the messaging
• 19:13
  coming out from them.
• 19:16
  Does that make sense?
• 19:20
  Yeah,
• 19:22
  I mean... Does brand mean like the
• 19:24
  image of CrossFit?
• 19:25
  Is that what that means, basically?
• 19:27
  Like working on changing the
• 19:29
  image of what people see of CrossFit?
• 19:35
  I don't even think she can
• 19:36
  define what brand means.
• 19:38
  And she kind of talks about
• 19:39
  that at the beginning of the podcast.
• 19:42
  I think it's more about...
• 19:46
  She feels like the name of
• 19:47
  CrossFit has been battered
• 19:48
  and bruised over the last five years.
• 19:52
  And we need to be more
• 19:53
  proactive to show the world
• 19:57
  that this stuff really does work.
• 20:01
  I agree.
• 20:01
  I mean.
• 20:03
  We and they.
• 20:04
  Yes.
• 20:05
  When I say we,
• 20:06
  I'm talking like it came from her.
• 20:08
  Yeah.
• 20:08
  Yeah.
• 20:15
  What I applaud is she's not only saying it,
• 20:17
  there are actions that you
• 20:19
  can see that she has done
• 20:21
  where it's not just her talking about it,
• 20:24
  but she's actually taking
• 20:25
  some kind of action.
• 20:26
  Yeah.
• 20:28
  Yeah.
• 20:28
  I mean, you can tell,
• 20:29
  you can tell that there's
• 20:31
  been more thoughtful, thoughtful,
• 20:36
  they put they have been
• 20:37
  putting work into that
• 20:39
  trainer channel the like
• 20:42
  it's definitely media is
• 20:43
  coming out back to the
• 20:44
  documentary the little mini
• 20:46
  documentaries yeah
• 20:50
  And I think those are,
• 20:51
  those are the things though,
• 20:52
  like the killing the fat man,
• 20:53
  those type of things showing, I mean,
• 20:56
  you do, you need to push the,
• 20:57
  we have the cure for the
• 20:58
  world's most vexing problem
• 20:59
  and you need to push that.
• 21:00
  It doesn't need to be sport so much,
• 21:02
  but media does need to
• 21:03
  surround that to show the potential,
• 21:07
  but we do need to just go
• 21:08
  back to health side.
• 21:10
  And we, this is the best,
• 21:14
  the best thing you can do for your life.
• 21:16
  if you haven't seen the
• 21:17
  documentary they put out
• 21:19
  about the judge that worked
• 21:21
  the masters CrossFit games
• 21:23
  and that they talk about
• 21:24
  that he was a member of a
• 21:26
  gym and they all wanted to
• 21:28
  volunteer and they're at a
• 21:29
  dinner and they go around
• 21:31
  the table and no,
• 21:33
  none of them lost less than like,
• 21:39
  like that says it all.
• 21:42
  And those are the things
• 21:44
  they weren't putting out anymore.
• 21:45
  Yeah.
• 21:53
  Larry Young says this, I love Nicole,
• 21:56
  but I think some young
• 21:58
  people might resonate with newer people.
• 22:00
  Where Nicole resonates with
• 22:01
  the OG CrossFitters,
• 22:03
  they are eventually going
• 22:04
  to age out just food for thought.
• 22:06
  I agree.
• 22:07
  I agree with your sentiment, Larry,
• 22:10
  but Nicole is not a forward
• 22:12
  facing person.
• 22:14
  Very rarely does she do
• 22:15
  podcasts or things.
• 22:18
  She is showing this through other media.
• 22:23
  She's working behind the
• 22:24
  scenes to push this stuff out.
• 22:29
  I, I love Nicole.
• 22:31
  Um,
• 22:32
  And was I really enjoyed
• 22:35
  when she was more forward
• 22:37
  facing when she used to do
• 22:38
  the open workouts and give
• 22:40
  her opinion on how it worked,
• 22:43
  how it went and like strategy.
• 22:45
  I ate those up.
• 22:48
  Like.
• 22:49
  I miss the update shows and
• 22:51
  stuff like that that used
• 22:53
  to be also in the open.
• 22:54
  They do the recaps of the
• 22:56
  weeks and who's leading and
• 22:59
  go into the communities and
• 23:00
  talk about what affiliates,
• 23:02
  how it was for them.
• 23:05
  I think bringing back
• 23:05
  something like that would
• 23:06
  be important too.
• 23:09
  Not just talk about the top
• 23:11
  people in the sport,
• 23:11
  but just showcasing how
• 23:13
  different affiliates are
• 23:15
  taking on the workouts and
• 23:17
  stuff like that.
• 23:19
  but yeah,
• 23:19
  she always gave like good
• 23:20
  feedback after the workout,
• 23:21
  like for elite athletes and
• 23:24
  then more general, general Paul.
• 23:29
  Yeah.
• 23:30
  I,
• 23:31
  one of the highlights of my life is at
• 23:34
  the twenty twenty two
• 23:36
  CrossFit games on the final
• 23:38
  day I was in the media pit
• 23:41
  and Nicole was on one side
• 23:42
  of me and Chris, um, oh God, uh,
• 23:48
  endurance guy,
• 23:49
  Chris and hearing the two of
• 23:52
  them talk to each other was
• 23:54
  just fascinating.
• 23:57
  And I was in between the two
• 23:58
  of them and it was, it was awesome.
• 24:02
  And I know Henshaw has taken
• 24:03
  some blows this year,
• 24:04
  but like the guy's still pretty,
• 24:06
  really pretty smart.
• 24:08
  And, um, and Nicole is way smart.
• 24:12
  So it's one of my favorite, like,
• 24:18
  I don't,
• 24:19
  an athlete personality is just in
• 24:20
  general of CrossFit.
• 24:23
  The only,
• 24:24
  the only thing she ever asked me
• 24:25
  was how do you pronounce fuselage?
• 24:27
  Yeah.
• 24:31
  And you knew, but I think during the open,
• 24:34
  you got to focus on the community.
• 24:37
  Like that's, that's what it's about.
• 24:38
  It's the community event.
• 24:40
  It's like at my gym, like there's,
• 24:43
  we're doing like three teams of,
• 24:45
  they all have their
• 24:46
  t-shirts and you get points
• 24:49
  if you judge someone.
• 24:51
  So now all of a sudden you don't have,
• 24:52
  you don't have people
• 24:53
  running around for judges
• 24:54
  because everyone wants to
• 24:54
  judge because it gets
• 24:55
  points for their team.
• 24:56
  And we've got this big trophy and it's,
• 24:59
  it's just like a fun
• 25:00
  community thing that you do yearly.
• 25:04
  And like,
• 25:04
  I think the competitive part and like,
• 25:08
  it goes a little bit with
• 25:09
  what Clooney says,
• 25:10
  like the competitive part is,
• 25:12
  is hard because I think the
• 25:14
  sport has developed so much
• 25:16
  since the years of two
• 25:17
  thousand where it's like
• 25:18
  for a regular pot, like, but back then,
• 25:21
  like people could see the games athlete.
• 25:23
  And like a lot of people
• 25:24
  thought they could get there, you know,
• 25:26
  a lot more people thought
• 25:27
  they could get there than now.
• 25:28
  Now it's become so
• 25:30
  professionalized where it's
• 25:31
  basically out of reach for
• 25:32
  most people that start
• 25:34
  CrossFit that a lot of people are like,
• 25:36
  what's the point and all
• 25:37
  that of the sport?
• 25:38
  Because it just, it's so far out of reach.
• 25:40
  So professionalized it's well,
• 25:41
  not professionalized, but, um,
• 25:44
  in terms of the level you
• 25:46
  need to get there.
• 25:47
  So it's just like,
• 25:48
  let's make the open about
• 25:49
  the community and the
• 25:51
  affiliates and just having a good time,
• 25:54
  um,
• 25:55
  signing up and doing the workouts
• 25:56
  together.
• 25:57
  You know, like you don't have to sign up,
• 26:00
  I guess, but it's like, to me,
• 26:01
  signing up makes it that
• 26:04
  your intensity just goes up.
• 26:06
  Like it just naturally does.
• 26:08
  Um, but just like doing it with people,
• 26:10
  doing it like for people, um,
• 26:13
  celebrating
• 26:15
  you know, three hard weeks together,
• 26:18
  I think is some of the more
• 26:19
  memorable stuff, um,
• 26:22
  from any CrossFit affiliates.
• 26:24
  Like it's, it's the open,
• 26:25
  like it's your celebration every year.
• 26:28
  It's your reset.
• 26:28
  Like you,
• 26:29
  you do your workouts and then you,
• 26:30
  you talk about it.
• 26:32
  You celebrate different achievements,
• 26:34
  people's first, whatever.
• 26:36
  For a lot of times,
• 26:36
  it's the first time you see
• 26:37
  people from different
• 26:38
  classes working out at the same time,
• 26:40
  because like everyone's
• 26:41
  doing the Friday night
• 26:42
  lights or we do Saturday
• 26:43
  mornings for my gym.
• 26:45
  But I get to see people I
• 26:46
  don't normally see during
• 26:47
  the day and I get to see
• 26:49
  their first of whatever and
• 26:51
  them achieving something
• 26:52
  that they didn't think was possible.
• 26:54
  Like, I think those moments are so cool.
• 26:56
  And like,
• 26:58
  they don't happen without the Open.
• 26:59
  It's just, it's, it's tough.
• 27:03
  Like, it's, yeah, but it's...
• 27:06
  I think it's got to come
• 27:07
  back to the community.
• 27:08
  It's got to be showcasing
• 27:10
  all those little stories of
• 27:11
  different affiliates and
• 27:14
  what they're doing and how
• 27:15
  they're taking on the open
• 27:16
  and just different ideas
• 27:19
  that people have that can
• 27:20
  share with other gyms too.
• 27:23
  It's funny because this is
• 27:24
  our first year without
• 27:25
  Christy and Patrick owning our gym.
• 27:28
  And they have completely changed the open.
• 27:32
  And to be honest,
• 27:34
  love Chrissy and Patrick to death,
• 27:36
  but the open was a serious
• 27:37
  matter for them, right?
• 27:39
  We had games athletes.
• 27:41
  We had semifinal athletes.
• 27:42
  We had Masters athletes.
• 27:45
  they wanted to make sure
• 27:46
  that they had like the
• 27:47
  optimal place to to be able
• 27:48
  to do their workouts and
• 27:50
  now this year it is all
• 27:53
  they are doing an
• 27:53
  intramural team competition
• 27:56
  it's more community-based
• 27:58
  um they are doing a friday
• 27:59
  night lights which we
• 28:00
  didn't have before and
• 28:02
  they're doing a saturday morning um so
• 28:08
  it's really cool seeing how
• 28:09
  they are changing the way
• 28:11
  they're doing the open now
• 28:13
  that the big time games
• 28:14
  athlete is no longer the
• 28:15
  owner um and and truly love
• 28:21
  christian patrick as owners
• 28:22
  and as coaches and some of
• 28:24
  the best coaching I've ever
• 28:25
  had in my life but that one
• 28:28
  thing that community aspect
• 28:31
  of the open got lost a
• 28:32
  little bit there that
• 28:34
  surprises me a little bit I would think
• 28:37
  I would think that would you
• 28:38
  would want to still like
• 28:41
  it's almost more important
• 28:42
  to do the Friday Night
• 28:42
  Lights and like highlight that.
• 28:45
  I think both can happen.
• 28:46
  I think it just depends on the affiliate.
• 28:47
  I think both can happen.
• 28:48
  Like, like I said, at my gym, we,
• 28:50
  we have people of all
• 28:52
  levels that are taking part in it.
• 28:54
  And that's, that's the beauty part of it.
• 28:58
  It's an interview role,
• 28:59
  basically competition at our gym, right?
• 29:00
  It's you have points for participation,
• 29:02
  get points for judging and
• 29:03
  get points for if you're
• 29:04
  wearing your outfit that weekend,
• 29:06
  like it's just, it's just fun.
• 29:08
  Like,
• 29:08
  and then like there's prizes and get
• 29:12
  togethers.
• 29:12
  Like it's,
• 29:14
  And I think part of it was
• 29:14
  COVID because we,
• 29:16
  we sectioned our gym off
• 29:17
  into where everybody had
• 29:18
  their own individual lane and you came in,
• 29:21
  you put your stuff in your lane,
• 29:22
  you had a bike, you had a rower,
• 29:25
  you had a pull up bar and
• 29:26
  everything's there.
• 29:27
  You don't have to like run
• 29:28
  around the gym to pick it up.
• 29:29
  And it actually took away
• 29:31
  from the community aspect a little bit.
• 29:33
  The new owners have gotten
• 29:35
  rid of the lanes.
• 29:38
  And so now it's, it's more open, but it's,
• 29:41
  Here's some of our listeners.
• 29:45
  One, Larry Young agrees with Carolyn.
• 29:47
  The athletes evolve faster than the rest.
• 29:50
  It's just not attainable
• 29:51
  anymore for a lot of people.
• 29:53
  It really isn't.
• 29:55
  To make it to the CrossFit Games, I mean,
• 29:58
  there's very few that can
• 29:59
  do it with full-time jobs.
• 30:00
  You still see it, of course.
• 30:03
  But it is so hard to do.
• 30:08
  I also think it's a function
• 30:09
  of getting rid of the
• 30:11
  regionals because that was
• 30:14
  a goal for a lot of people.
• 30:15
  And that was a little bit more attainable.
• 30:18
  That was.
• 30:19
  And for the teams, it was more,
• 30:20
  it was achievable, right?
• 30:21
  Like now with all the super
• 30:23
  teams and then you have to
• 30:25
  qualify for all these different events,
• 30:26
  like there's a lot less of them.
• 30:28
  So the caliber is higher, of course,
• 30:30
  but the amount of regional,
• 30:31
  especially when there was like, like,
• 30:34
  you're going,
• 30:35
  you're just traveling a few
• 30:36
  hours to go to the,
• 30:37
  to the regional event that's nearby.
• 30:39
  And it's literally,
• 30:41
  you're like an affiliate team.
• 30:45
  Yeah.
• 30:45
  So that,
• 30:45
  that part's what's been difficult.
• 30:48
  I think for those
• 30:49
  intermediate athletes that
• 30:50
  are like intermediate RX,
• 30:52
  like have a goal of kind of
• 30:54
  making it to some sort of next level.
• 30:56
  Yeah.
• 30:58
  It's just a little bit out of reach now.
• 31:01
  I think if they did open
• 31:02
  announcements with box
• 31:03
  athletes and not games athletes,
• 31:05
  it would promote it better
• 31:07
  for general CrossFitters.
• 31:09
  An open announcement where
• 31:10
  they do it at an affiliate
• 31:12
  and they have both are my
• 31:14
  favorite announcements.
• 31:16
  Yeah.
• 31:17
  It's like throwing a regular
• 31:20
  person in a lane at the games.
• 31:21
  I think that would be incredible.
• 31:23
  Yeah,
• 31:24
  I think showcasing what a top score
• 31:26
  is and then let's take it
• 31:28
  back to reality with what...
• 31:31
  what the general athletes
• 31:33
  are going to look like too.
• 31:34
  Right.
• 31:35
  And I think you attract the
• 31:37
  top athletes will want to
• 31:39
  watch because they want to
• 31:40
  see their competitors and kind of,
• 31:42
  you know, what a good score is.
• 31:43
  And then the regular population gets a,
• 31:47
  another version that they
• 31:48
  can look at and aspire to,
• 31:51
  to be as good as them too.
• 31:53
  Judy Reed says we're having
• 31:54
  raffles with really cool giveaways,
• 31:56
  meat boxes, weight belts, supplements,
• 31:59
  food every week.
• 32:02
  Dang.
• 32:02
  Ken says we have shirts each
• 32:03
  year for participants and
• 32:05
  then potluck after each
• 32:06
  Friday night lights for all
• 32:08
  members and their families.
• 32:11
  And then I think a ton more
• 32:13
  people have regionals,
• 32:15
  had regionals as goals and
• 32:16
  the whole gym was in on it.
• 32:17
  I think that's the key.
• 32:19
  And it was when you had regionals,
• 32:21
  they were small and you
• 32:22
  could drive to any location
• 32:24
  in your region.
• 32:25
  Yep.
• 32:28
  like CrossFit lost a lot of
• 32:29
  money running all of those
• 32:31
  but I some sort of regional
• 32:35
  thing would would be a
• 32:37
  solution I think agreed
• 32:43
  just how to do it I don't
• 32:44
  know because you have to do
• 32:46
  it cheaply but
• 32:49
  It was the most effective way to get fans.
• 32:54
  John Woolley said this a long time ago.
• 32:56
  Maybe we need to look at
• 32:57
  high school football fields.
• 33:01
  You can get cheaper than a
• 33:03
  convention center.
• 33:06
  That way you go to a
• 33:07
  regionals where the cost is less.
• 33:09
  Everybody can come.
• 33:10
  You do have the weather aspect,
• 33:12
  but at least it's a community event.
• 33:14
  I don't know.
• 33:23
  yeah yeah I I'm excited for
• 33:27
  the open I I think this I
• 33:31
  I've talked about it we
• 33:32
  we're a level method gym I
• 33:33
  feel like this community
• 33:34
  cup and them and I know
• 33:35
  they've done the levels
• 33:36
  before but I actually feel
• 33:37
  like they are putting it in
• 33:39
  the right direction and
• 33:40
  have a purpose for it and
• 33:42
  I'm excited for it like I'm
• 33:43
  telling everyone at my gym
• 33:45
  sign up like you know how
• 33:46
  you're white or yellow like
• 33:48
  you might be one or two and you
• 33:50
  you actually will like
• 33:51
  objectively be able to look
• 33:52
  at that and try to go from
• 33:53
  a two to a three next year.
• 33:55
  And we're going to do the in-house,
• 33:57
  the community cup as an in-house comp.
• 33:58
  So like, if you have a level,
• 34:00
  it'll make sense.
• 34:02
  Yeah,
• 34:03
  I like the idea of the Community Cup.
• 34:05
  I hope that it works because, like,
• 34:11
  the idea of it is good.
• 34:12
  It's like you finish your Open,
• 34:13
  people are motivated or
• 34:16
  defeated a little bit by where they are,
• 34:18
  and then it's like you've
• 34:19
  got this amount of months to train and,
• 34:22
  you know,
• 34:22
  go back to basically your level
• 34:24
  of competing against –
• 34:26
  your people and try to
• 34:28
  improve within those months
• 34:29
  and then after that you set
• 34:31
  goals for the next year of
• 34:32
  the open like instead of
• 34:33
  waiting a full year to um
• 34:36
  to work on different things
• 34:37
  like let's see short term
• 34:39
  if you can dial in a few
• 34:41
  things like I like the idea
• 34:43
  um hopefully it's well
• 34:47
  programmed to the different
• 34:49
  levels I really wonder if
• 34:52
  Like,
• 34:53
  do you think that the open would work
• 34:54
  better if they had an
• 34:55
  intermediate workout?
• 34:56
  Like, RX intermediate scale?
• 34:59
  Like, almost every gym has those three,
• 35:03
  like, levels.
• 35:03
  Like,
• 35:04
  sometimes I wonder if they had an
• 35:08
  intermediate workout,
• 35:10
  if it would allow more people to...
• 35:15
  hopefully that's I don't
• 35:16
  know the levels become
• 35:18
  right because the workout
• 35:19
  is going to be different
• 35:20
  for every level group at
• 35:22
  the community cup right so
• 35:24
  maybe that's the start of
• 35:25
  something in that direction
• 35:30
  we'll have to wait and see
• 35:31
  but um there was something
• 35:33
  here because then you could
• 35:34
  have a little bit more rx
• 35:35
  workouts and then you have
• 35:37
  those intermediate workouts
• 35:38
  and then scaled and foundation
• 35:40
  Like it's, it'd be,
• 35:42
  I think it would be more appropriate,
• 35:44
  especially as people sign
• 35:45
  up like pretty new,
• 35:47
  like you have certain skills.
• 35:49
  I don't know.
• 35:50
  I think I get really
• 35:51
  conflicted there because when I started,
• 35:52
  there was only RX and try
• 35:59
  to be able to do things
• 36:00
  that I'd never done before,
• 36:02
  which actually forced me to
• 36:04
  get things I'd never had before.
• 36:08
  I agree with that too.
• 36:09
  So like I'm really
• 36:10
  conflicted in adding more
• 36:12
  to that when that was what
• 36:15
  got me my first pull up.
• 36:17
  That's what like I had to
• 36:18
  get a twenty four inch box
• 36:20
  jump before it got to the
• 36:21
  open because I was going to
• 36:22
  have to do it.
• 36:24
  Like though it actually made
• 36:26
  me work towards something
• 36:28
  and achieve it so that I
• 36:30
  could do it in the open.
• 36:32
  but I think you can still
• 36:33
  try to work towards getting
• 36:34
  out of intermediate and
• 36:36
  getting towards RX, um,
• 36:38
  while still getting a
• 36:39
  better workout in like
• 36:43
  intermediate division.
• 36:44
  Like I think it's something
• 36:45
  that I think it's an idea
• 36:46
  to play around with.
• 36:48
  Um,
• 36:49
  Again,
• 36:49
  I'm not sure whether it would work
• 36:51
  or not because the first
• 36:52
  year they added RX and
• 36:54
  scaled was twenty fifteen
• 36:55
  because my first year in
• 36:56
  the open was twenty
• 36:56
  fourteen and they didn't have it there.
• 36:59
  But then in twenty fifteen,
• 37:00
  they introduced handstand pushups.
• 37:01
  And I remember there was I
• 37:03
  think there was like scale
• 37:04
  divisions at that point.
• 37:05
  I think that was the first year.
• 37:10
  Nicole says,
• 37:10
  I feel like I'd fall into intermediate,
• 37:13
  which is frustrating,
• 37:14
  but most of the scaled
• 37:15
  movements would be too easy for me.
• 37:17
  Nicole is one of my members and she,
• 37:20
  she would be, she's a high intermediate.
• 37:23
  If the problem is she
• 37:24
  doesn't have quite have a
• 37:25
  bar muscle up yet, but she, but I think,
• 37:29
  I think that could be a track.
• 37:31
  Like,
• 37:31
  I think that would attract certain
• 37:32
  athletes though, that, that are very,
• 37:35
  very fit,
• 37:36
  but they just lack the high end strength,
• 37:38
  technical work for gymnastics.
• 37:40
  And then like race and that
• 37:43
  kind of caliber, like the workouts.
• 37:46
  Yeah.
• 37:46
  Oh, she'd crush.
• 37:48
  I think there's a lot of
• 37:50
  athletes that fall into that division.
• 37:53
  Like that's,
• 37:53
  that's most of your members at
• 37:55
  the gym is intermediate.
• 37:59
  Jody Lynn asks this.
• 38:00
  What is a level method, Jen?
• 38:02
  I've talked about it kind of a lot, Jody.
• 38:05
  So it's literally,
• 38:07
  it's a big map on a wall
• 38:09
  and it goes from white to black,
• 38:11
  essentially like a white
• 38:12
  belt to a black belt.
• 38:14
  And you literally,
• 38:15
  assess over fifteen
• 38:17
  different movements there's
• 38:18
  things like deadlift front
• 38:19
  squat things like upper
• 38:21
  body pull upper body push
• 38:24
  um and so you get a wide
• 38:26
  range cardio stuff there's
• 38:28
  things like api which is
• 38:29
  basically fight gone bad um
• 38:32
  and you get a color for
• 38:34
  those movements and then
• 38:36
  you see like like say for
• 38:38
  instance like we have a guy
• 38:39
  who can deadlift five six
• 38:41
  hundred pounds but can't do
• 38:42
  really do a pull-up
• 38:43
  So he's, like, black in his deadlift,
• 38:46
  his objective strength.
• 38:47
  Like, he can move a lot of weight.
• 38:49
  Can't move his own body weight very well.
• 38:52
  So you want to, like,
• 38:53
  bring those together and
• 38:54
  fall somewhere in, like,
• 38:56
  an orange or a blue,
• 38:57
  more in the middle of the map.
• 38:58
  And usually it's a body composition thing.
• 39:01
  Could be a cardio thing.
• 39:04
  It just makes you a very
• 39:05
  well-rounded athlete.
• 39:08
  That would be an interesting
• 39:08
  thing for CrossFit to do.
• 39:11
  Like for different movements
• 39:12
  or different benchmark workouts.
• 39:15
  Especially because the
• 39:15
  workouts change all the time in the open.
• 39:18
  It would be super
• 39:20
  interesting to be like this.
• 39:21
  I mean,
• 39:21
  Beyond the Whiteboard does it in levels.
• 39:23
  Yeah.
• 39:24
  yeah like you're in the
• 39:25
  ninety-ninth percentile
• 39:26
  ninetieth percentile but
• 39:27
  just kind of releasing
• 39:29
  these are the benchmark I
• 39:31
  mean we have so many
• 39:32
  benchmark workouts right
• 39:33
  but like picking maybe a
• 39:35
  like a few cardio a few
• 39:36
  gymnastics a few weight
• 39:38
  lifting and then a few uh
• 39:39
  mixed modal like just kind
• 39:41
  of general tests yep I
• 39:45
  think that would be
• 39:46
  interesting to to do and
• 39:50
  then it creates your levels yeah
• 39:54
  Because the open in three workouts or even,
• 39:57
  let's call it four workouts
• 39:58
  if there's a two-parter,
• 39:59
  I still think that's very
• 40:00
  hard to level out.
• 40:03
  Yeah.
• 40:03
  Because you could have had
• 40:07
  one high skill movement
• 40:08
  that took you away from a certain level,
• 40:09
  but you have everything else,
• 40:10
  and it's just not as precise.
• 40:16
  I think you need more data.
• 40:21
  Yeah.
• 40:21
  Yeah, I mean, it usually skews to –
• 40:24
  I would say more just basic
• 40:27
  cardio fitness ability.
• 40:29
  But I think that's,
• 40:30
  that's the bottom of the pyramid, right?
• 40:31
  If you think about, you know, CrossFit,
• 40:33
  like you have the bottom of
• 40:34
  the pyramid being monostructural, right?
• 40:36
  And before earning your weight,
• 40:38
  like you have to be good at
• 40:40
  monostructural and just general fitness.
• 40:41
  Then are you able to move
• 40:43
  your body in space with gymnastics?
• 40:45
  Then how, you know,
• 40:47
  the weights and
• 40:48
  weightlifting and throwing and the sport.
• 40:50
  So yeah,
• 40:54
  yeah it's interesting well
• 40:57
  while we're talking about
• 40:57
  the open um let's talk
• 40:59
  about they announced the
• 41:01
  second matchup um that will
• 41:03
  happen somewhere in arizona
• 41:05
  and I'll go ahead and share my screen so
• 41:21
  And Rolf is off first.
• 41:23
  Emily Rolf is going to take
• 41:24
  a red light stand.
• 41:42
  So, thoughts on the matchup?
• 41:46
  I'm excited for Emily.
• 41:49
  I mean,
• 41:49
  the fact that Sydney got to do it
• 41:51
  last year,
• 41:51
  I almost wish they would have
• 41:53
  found somebody else.
• 41:56
  I like her.
• 42:00
  Very few people have gotten to do it.
• 42:01
  Find somebody who hasn't done it yet.
• 42:06
  yeah I was excited for emily
• 42:08
  to see that I'd like what
• 42:10
  kind of movements would you
• 42:11
  like to see them paired
• 42:12
  against each other I would
• 42:13
  like to see I mean
• 42:14
  obviously emily's very good
• 42:16
  at like toaster bars some
• 42:18
  double unders uh sydney
• 42:20
  would be very good in terms
• 42:22
  of similar movements I
• 42:24
  think too yeah um she's good with the
• 42:30
  lower skill gymnastics, chest to bar,
• 42:34
  bar muscle-up, stuff like that.
• 42:36
  It could be a good race.
• 42:39
  I could see like a...
• 42:42
  I don't know.
• 42:42
  Was it eighteen two or the
• 42:44
  one with the total bar dub
• 42:46
  and the front that cleans?
• 42:49
  Yeah,
• 42:49
  I don't think that would be as good
• 42:51
  for Emily Rolfe against Sydney.
• 42:54
  Well,
• 42:55
  I think I think what would be good
• 42:56
  would be the twenty minute
• 42:57
  twenty point two with the
• 43:00
  dumbbell thrusters, the toaster bars.
• 43:03
  Yeah, but that takes.
• 43:04
  So I think what.
• 43:05
  So I think Emily would get
• 43:07
  ahead and then it would get
• 43:09
  to that last level of weight and then
• 43:13
  I'd be curious to see.
• 43:15
  Does Sydney come back and take her?
• 43:18
  And that's, I mean,
• 43:19
  that's... Emily's getting stronger.
• 43:22
  She is.
• 43:23
  Some of her lifts, as of late,
• 43:25
  I feel like they're... She
• 43:28
  has been putting in the work on strength.
• 43:29
  It's just the field is just so strong.
• 43:31
  I know.
• 43:32
  It's just she's getting stronger,
• 43:34
  but so is the field, right?
• 43:36
  So it always looks like she's...
• 43:38
  very weak but she's she's
• 43:40
  not like she's still very
• 43:42
  strong like she's um like
• 43:45
  just everyone's just
• 43:46
  apparently cleaning two
• 43:47
  fifty now like it's just
• 43:49
  crazy uh craig makes a good
• 43:52
  point we don't want to see
• 43:53
  ring muscle ups yeah
• 43:54
  probably not that would be
• 43:56
  over before it got started
• 43:58
  I still think week one
• 44:01
  could very well be the
• 44:03
  twenty point five workout
• 44:07
  think it'd be I think it's
• 44:09
  twenty point one I think
• 44:10
  it's the ten rounder with
• 44:12
  the ground overhead and
• 44:13
  burpees uh craig says total
• 44:18
  bar devil press rower
• 44:20
  you'll never see devil
• 44:21
  pressing that express we
• 44:22
  haven't seen that you won't
• 44:24
  see it I don't I mean I
• 44:26
  guess I think a single arm
• 44:27
  devil's press you could see
• 44:29
  but not with the double I
• 44:30
  think the fifty and thirty
• 44:31
  five would get heavy for
• 44:32
  the majority of people but
• 44:34
  a single arm you could do
• 44:37
  it's just like a dumbbell
• 44:38
  snatch with the burpee
• 44:38
  basically yeah um ken
• 44:43
  walters says twenty five
• 44:44
  point three open
• 44:45
  announcement jamie versus
• 44:46
  carolyn carolyn wouldn't go
• 44:48
  live I would do it I would
• 44:52
  get on I'd see taylor's
• 44:53
  going on live I would do a
• 44:54
  workout after the announcement
• 44:57
  I mean,
• 44:57
  I used to always do that at my gym.
• 44:59
  They would announce it.
• 45:00
  We would have a group of people.
• 45:02
  I would do it the Thursday night.
• 45:03
  Cause it back then it used
• 45:04
  to be released at eight PM.
• 45:06
  I would do it that night by
• 45:07
  myself basically.
• 45:09
  And then I would do a little
• 45:10
  recap of how I feel like
• 45:13
  people should do it.
• 45:14
  Like I'd watch the
• 45:14
  announcement and watch the athlete do it.
• 45:16
  And then I would do it and
• 45:17
  then give a little bit of feedback on it.
• 45:20
  If you knew that it didn't
• 45:21
  have to be the score you posted,
• 45:23
  would you do it?
• 45:24
  Like, cause you could do it again.
• 45:26
  Sure.
• 45:29
  I don't know that I'm going
• 45:30
  to want to do any of them.
• 45:31
  I did an announcement
• 45:32
  against Caroline Risencibo one year,
• 45:34
  twenty point two,
• 45:36
  the freaking double under one.
• 45:37
  I was like she and she got like a top,
• 45:40
  I think top five in the
• 45:41
  world on that workout, too.
• 45:42
  Like she was so good at those movements.
• 45:44
  And I'm like,
• 45:44
  there are so many workouts
• 45:45
  where me and Caroline
• 45:46
  Risencibo would battle and
• 45:48
  it'd be like burpees and
• 45:49
  deadlift workouts and light barbells.
• 45:52
  And then, of course,
• 45:53
  like the announcement was
• 45:54
  like the worst workout for me.
• 45:55
  I was like, oh,
• 45:56
  this is going to be embarrassing.
• 45:58
  So what, so let's talk about that because,
• 46:02
  you know, it's,
• 46:02
  it's a big honor to be
• 46:04
  asked to do an open workout announcement,
• 46:06
  right?
• 46:08
  You're in front of the world.
• 46:09
  Everybody's watching.
• 46:11
  Um,
• 46:11
  you get that opportunity and then your
• 46:14
  biggest weakness shows up as one of the,
• 46:16
  as a piece of the workout.
• 46:18
  What were your feelings in that moment?
• 46:20
  Deflated.
• 46:21
  Cause they're like thrusters.
• 46:23
  I was like, all right,
• 46:24
  I got this toast bar.
• 46:24
  I was like, okay.
• 46:27
  double unders I was like oh
• 46:31
  it's like crap um it just I
• 46:34
  mean like I it was cool to
• 46:36
  go up against her like I
• 46:38
  knew what like I was gonna
• 46:39
  be in for a tough night but
• 46:42
  um like I just knew it
• 46:44
  wasn't gonna be my best
• 46:47
  event but I did my best and
• 46:49
  I think I did better than I
• 46:51
  would have if I was by
• 46:52
  myself just because of the
• 46:53
  push I got from her because
• 46:54
  she was so elite at that workout
• 46:57
  But yeah, it was a tough one.
• 46:59
  But yeah, I mean,
• 47:00
  a twenty minute workout
• 47:02
  like that's when you want
• 47:03
  to have someone with you
• 47:04
  that's that's pushing you,
• 47:05
  because if you're just
• 47:06
  doing that one by yourself,
• 47:07
  like that's tough.
• 47:08
  Like that's one of the harder ones,
• 47:10
  just mentally like a twenty minute AMRAP.
• 47:12
  Those are the worst.
• 47:14
  Franco,
• 47:15
  she asks herself that question
• 47:17
  every night before bed.
• 47:19
  I'm getting better.
• 47:21
  I have been working with this lady, Molly.
• 47:26
  So she's been helping me with some drills.
• 47:30
  I have a different skipping
• 47:31
  rope this year than I have before.
• 47:35
  And am I perfect?
• 47:38
  Absolutely not.
• 47:39
  But am I better than I was last year?
• 47:42
  Yes.
• 47:44
  So I'm hoping I can
• 47:47
  continue this momentum of my
• 47:49
  double unders and also
• 47:51
  being a part of it is big
• 47:52
  for your camp and or
• 47:53
  affiliate yes uh take
• 48:02
  dancing class storking your
• 48:03
  queen if you have not seen carolyn
• 48:07
  do her Taekwondo or do her jumping.
• 48:12
  She is one of the most
• 48:13
  athletic people you've ever seen.
• 48:14
  And so coordinated that has
• 48:16
  nothing to do with her.
• 48:17
  That's the frustrating part
• 48:19
  is I can dance and I am coordinated.
• 48:22
  I just cannot do double unders.
• 48:26
  Um,
• 48:27
  yeah for whatever reason my
• 48:31
  arms are not leveled and
• 48:35
  the connection of my arm is
• 48:36
  just not there but it's
• 48:39
  getting better so we've
• 48:42
  talked about all the good
• 48:43
  things about the open and
• 48:45
  the amazingness of it all
• 48:47
  but we're now getting posts
• 48:49
  from bigger athletes saying
• 48:52
  that they are not doing the
• 48:53
  open this year and that um
• 48:57
  We knew that Emma Tall, Emma McQuaid,
• 49:01
  and Elisa Fuliano had
• 49:03
  announced it in previous weeks.
• 49:06
  And now we get this week Chandler Smith,
• 49:09
  Patrick Vellner, and Yela Hosta.
• 49:13
  So now we're at three and
• 49:14
  three on each side.
• 49:15
  I keep scrolling Instagram.
• 49:17
  It's really hard to find in
• 49:19
  everybody that I follow
• 49:21
  these announcements,
• 49:22
  but I'm trying to look as
• 49:24
  much as I can to bring you
• 49:26
  the latest news on that.
• 49:32
  That's a decision they're allowed to make,
• 49:34
  right?
• 49:34
  Anybody can or cannot do the open.
• 49:38
  It is what it is.
• 49:41
  How do you think it's going
• 49:42
  to affect the competitive season?
• 49:46
  Is it going to do because
• 49:48
  they've reduced the number
• 49:49
  of people going to the games by ten?
• 49:52
  Does it will it actually
• 49:53
  give some up and comers a shot?
• 49:57
  Or is it do you think it's
• 50:00
  going to be a wash because
• 50:02
  of the reduction in people
• 50:03
  going to the games?
• 50:04
  Yeah, I feel like it's going to be a wash.
• 50:10
  Carolyn.
• 50:11
  Say that question again.
• 50:14
  So because they've reduced
• 50:15
  the number of people going
• 50:16
  to the games by ten.
• 50:17
  Yes.
• 50:17
  From forty to thirty.
• 50:20
  Now you have open spots
• 50:21
  coming because perennial
• 50:23
  games athletes are not competing.
• 50:27
  Is it going to be a wash in
• 50:28
  the end that those
• 50:30
  perennial games athletes
• 50:31
  will probably be about the
• 50:33
  same as the number of spots
• 50:36
  they've reduced by?
• 50:39
  It's hard.
• 50:40
  It's hard to know.
• 50:41
  I think there's a lot, um,
• 50:43
  still contemplating right
• 50:45
  now and still waiting it
• 50:46
  out to kind of just see
• 50:48
  what other people are doing.
• 50:52
  It's hard to know because a
• 50:53
  lot of those athletes do
• 50:55
  hold great influence, um,
• 50:58
  in the space and yeah,
• 51:01
  I mean the decrease in number,
• 51:03
  it's already getting harder to qualify,
• 51:06
  but
• 51:09
  I'm, I don't,
• 51:10
  I don't know what the signup
• 51:10
  is going to be like.
• 51:11
  It's, it's going to be much lower than,
• 51:14
  than the past few years, probably by,
• 51:17
  I don't know that we'll hit
• 51:18
  two hundred thousand at this pace.
• 51:20
  Like,
• 51:21
  I think it's going to be pretty
• 51:23
  significant blow.
• 51:25
  And like I've said, every,
• 51:28
  every other show, like these athletes,
• 51:30
  like they're,
• 51:31
  I think that there's two
• 51:32
  ways that athletes have taken, you know,
• 51:36
  their decision is some athletes are,
• 51:39
  uh you know the changes that
• 51:41
  crossfit has proposed post
• 51:43
  games um has not met what
• 51:47
  they're looking for in
• 51:48
  terms of the changes and
• 51:50
  the way that they're taking
• 51:51
  action is by not competing
• 51:54
  um which I fully support
• 51:56
  their and respect their decision
• 51:59
  Um, and they want to see more and they,
• 52:01
  you know, and really it's, it's too,
• 52:04
  it's too close to even know
• 52:05
  whether it's enough.
• 52:06
  We don't know whether it's enough.
• 52:08
  And some athletes I think
• 52:10
  are choosing not to compete
• 52:13
  until they see it actually change because,
• 52:17
  you know, we've had councils,
• 52:18
  we've had all these things
• 52:19
  and they're not taking part until, um,
• 52:23
  or maybe never, I'm not sure,
• 52:26
  until they see significant
• 52:28
  change or what they're looking for.
• 52:30
  And then other athletes are choosing to,
• 52:35
  you know, take part, let's say,
• 52:37
  in the Open or in the
• 52:38
  season and seeing how these
• 52:42
  actions are going to be,
• 52:44
  or these decisions and
• 52:45
  changes are going to be implemented,
• 52:47
  hoping that...
• 52:49
  things change.
• 52:50
  I think anyone that, you know,
• 52:53
  saw what happened last year,
• 52:55
  know that it was, you know,
• 52:58
  the worst thing that can
• 52:59
  happen and definitely preventable.
• 53:04
  And the response,
• 53:06
  I think for even for people
• 53:07
  that are choosing to,
• 53:08
  to sign up for the open,
• 53:10
  it doesn't mean that you're
• 53:13
  in agreement with the,
• 53:15
  the response either that happened or,
• 53:18
  or anything that took place.
• 53:19
  I think that there's just
• 53:20
  different ways that
• 53:21
  athletes will choose to
• 53:24
  move forward with the season,
• 53:25
  whether they want to be
• 53:27
  within the community and
• 53:31
  see how it plays out or they want to hold,
• 53:34
  you know,
• 53:35
  their decision of not competing
• 53:38
  until further change, um, is made.
• 53:41
  Um,
• 53:41
  and there could be other personal
• 53:43
  reasons that they don't
• 53:43
  disclose to which they had
• 53:45
  every right to not disclose
• 53:46
  for their decisions to not compete.
• 53:48
  Um, I respect, uh,
• 53:51
  I respect their decisions too.
• 53:53
  Um, you know, like I said to me,
• 53:59
  the open has meant so much to my community,
• 54:03
  to my affiliate, to myself.
• 54:06
  I've tried to win the open
• 54:06
  every single year, if I'm being honest,
• 54:08
  since I was in twenty fourteen.
• 54:11
  Like athletes, games,
• 54:12
  athletes always says that
• 54:13
  they don't care about the open.
• 54:14
  I always did.
• 54:15
  Like I always cared.
• 54:16
  I cared about my community.
• 54:17
  I have an affiliate like it
• 54:20
  just it's it's meant so much to me.
• 54:22
  And
• 54:23
  There's other people that
• 54:24
  have disagreements with me
• 54:26
  in terms of their decisions,
• 54:28
  but it's tough.
• 54:34
  I don't know what – I think
• 54:38
  we all want change.
• 54:39
  We all want this to never,
• 54:40
  ever happen again.
• 54:42
  ever happen again, you know?
• 54:44
  And it's so sad that we lost, you know,
• 54:48
  one of our best members of
• 54:49
  our community in Lazar and
• 54:52
  it should have never happened.
• 54:53
  And it's just, it's just, it's difficult.
• 54:56
  Like it's difficult to move on from that.
• 54:58
  And no one is really moving on from that.
• 55:00
  You know,
• 55:00
  we're moving forward or in
• 55:01
  different directions, but you know, no,
• 55:04
  no one's going to forget
• 55:05
  what happened with Lazar.
• 55:07
  I just hope that real change happens.
• 55:12
  Real significant change is
• 55:14
  going to happen with the
• 55:17
  new council in place,
• 55:19
  with the new safety measures in place.
• 55:23
  You know,
• 55:23
  I've competed in a lot of competitions,
• 55:25
  a lot of competitions
• 55:28
  locally and nationally.
• 55:30
  know the games in my like
• 55:32
  from my experiences one of
• 55:34
  the places I felt the
• 55:35
  safest in terms of where I
• 55:37
  competed like there was the
• 55:39
  most amount of staff there
• 55:41
  now my expectation is
• 55:43
  always to have someone save
• 55:45
  me if I were to ever be in
• 55:46
  a situation like that and
• 55:47
  that just didn't happen
• 55:49
  And it's so sad to think
• 55:53
  that that happened and shocking.
• 55:56
  It's still shocking to talk
• 55:57
  about it and enraging, to be honest.
• 56:01
  But like I said,
• 56:02
  I just hope that something
• 56:05
  can come from this.
• 56:07
  There's plenty of
• 56:07
  opportunities to compete in the season.
• 56:10
  I'm going to be doing the
• 56:11
  WFP as well and trying to compete there.
• 56:13
  And I support all the athletes that...
• 56:17
  are going that route too.
• 56:20
  Like this,
• 56:20
  the sport has meant so much to me.
• 56:22
  It's changed my life.
• 56:23
  It's changed so many things,
• 56:24
  like not just the sport, the methodology.
• 56:27
  Like, I just,
• 56:29
  I don't want to see it go away.
• 56:30
  I don't want to see it disappear.
• 56:33
  I don't want to see, you know,
• 56:35
  the affiliates that mean the most to me,
• 56:37
  like lose a bunch of like things.
• 56:42
  I don't know.
• 56:42
  It's just,
• 56:44
  It's tough.
• 56:45
  It's a tough time in our sport right now,
• 56:47
  in our community.
• 56:48
  It's very divided.
• 56:54
  I just don't think that...
• 56:57
  When you're asking for change,
• 57:00
  I don't – for one,
• 57:02
  I think you need to be a
• 57:03
  little bit clearer,
• 57:03
  but the fact that some of
• 57:06
  these athletes are backing
• 57:07
  out of the games and
• 57:08
  switching over to something like WFP,
• 57:11
  like no shame, no fault there,
• 57:13
  like whatever, do what you want to do.
• 57:15
  I just –
• 57:17
  you, to me, it seems like you're,
• 57:20
  you're just wanting to go
• 57:22
  do the least amount of work
• 57:24
  for the most amount of money.
• 57:26
  Like why, why now are we pushing for,
• 57:29
  you're pushing for movement lists,
• 57:32
  you're pushing,
• 57:32
  you basically want to know
• 57:34
  what you need to do and you
• 57:35
  want to go do it.
• 57:36
  You just want to do six
• 57:37
  events over two days and make some money.
• 57:40
  we no longer really want to
• 57:42
  test for the fittest on earth.
• 57:43
  We don't want to do like extremely hard,
• 57:46
  unknowable things.
• 57:47
  I mean, there is inherent danger when you,
• 57:49
  when you go sign up for
• 57:50
  something like the CrossFit games,
• 57:51
  that's part of what draws people to it.
• 57:53
  That's part of what made
• 57:55
  CrossFit great is life
• 57:59
  isn't easy and it's,
• 58:01
  we are choosing to put
• 58:03
  ourselves in extremely
• 58:04
  taxing situations in the gym every day,
• 58:07
  just really hard things so
• 58:10
  that we can get through other things.
• 58:12
  And I don't,
• 58:13
  I don't know why we're
• 58:14
  constantly trying to like
• 58:15
  catered for people,
• 58:16
  like make things easier,
• 58:17
  scale things to like, that's, that is not,
• 58:22
  that's not how life works.
• 58:23
  That's not,
• 58:24
  that's not what made this great.
• 58:27
  I'm okay with the standardized list,
• 58:31
  and it's still, to me,
• 58:32
  unknowable in terms of – I mean,
• 58:35
  if you look at that list, there's – Sure,
• 58:37
  there's tons of options.
• 58:38
  There's tons of options,
• 58:40
  and I'm sure we'll talk about that later.
• 58:43
  I don't think there's
• 58:44
  anything bad necessarily
• 58:46
  with that list and wanting –
• 58:49
  standardized stuff.
• 58:49
  And I don't think that we also need,
• 58:52
  I don't think that the
• 58:53
  games needs to be as hard
• 58:54
  on the body as like a beat
• 58:57
  down sometimes as, as it is.
• 58:58
  I think you could,
• 58:59
  you could do those same
• 59:00
  events over maybe one more
• 59:01
  day or whatever,
• 59:02
  but I wouldn't say that
• 59:03
  they're taking an easier route there.
• 59:05
  They're actually competing more often.
• 59:06
  I think it's,
• 59:08
  they have their contracts, uh,
• 59:10
  those athletes, but three times, I mean,
• 59:13
  you, I mean,
• 59:14
  really they could just go one
• 59:16
  time in person for, you got it.
• 59:18
  It's not even that much different.
• 59:20
  Like you do the open,
• 59:21
  then you do your semifinals
• 59:23
  and then you do the games.
• 59:25
  So now we're going to do the in-person,
• 59:27
  the two, the three live WFP.
• 59:30
  If you're a contracted athlete,
• 59:32
  they're not really competing more.
• 59:37
  I think it's pretty similar, maybe.
• 59:40
  I mean, if they're doing both,
• 59:40
  they're competing more.
• 59:42
  Well, sure.
• 59:43
  But the volume at a
• 59:45
  competition with six events is less,
• 59:49
  obviously, than some of the games with,
• 59:52
  you know,
• 59:52
  fifteen events in three to four days.
• 59:58
  Yeah.
• 59:59
  I get it.
• 59:59
  I just feel like they're
• 1:00:01
  going the route that serves them the best,
• 1:00:03
  and I can't fault them for that.
• 1:00:06
  I,
• 1:00:06
  but I like at telling that Dave needs to
• 1:00:09
  be fired,
• 1:00:09
  saying that we need all this
• 1:00:10
  change without saying like,
• 1:00:12
  just say what it is that you want.
• 1:00:14
  And we aren't getting that
• 1:00:15
  other than it's pretty clear.
• 1:00:16
  They want a day fired.
• 1:00:19
  Did you want pool swims?
• 1:00:21
  I don't know.
• 1:00:21
  Did you want everything inside?
• 1:00:23
  I don't know.
• 1:00:23
  Nobody's been straight up
• 1:00:25
  clear about exactly what
• 1:00:27
  they're looking for.
• 1:00:29
  Yeah.
• 1:00:30
  I think some of it was in, in the demands,
• 1:00:32
  obviously by the PFA.
• 1:00:34
  Um, I think the Dave thing is,
• 1:00:37
  is definitely something that the athletes,
• 1:00:40
  some of them, um, are,
• 1:00:44
  we're looking in terms of
• 1:00:45
  action or at least someone
• 1:00:47
  held accountable for, you know,
• 1:00:50
  the life loss, um,
• 1:00:54
  And again,
• 1:00:54
  there's some reasons that won't be said.
• 1:00:59
  And there's athletes that
• 1:01:01
  are stepping away that
• 1:01:03
  they've been in it for a long time.
• 1:01:05
  I think it's very easy for
• 1:01:06
  people that are judging
• 1:01:08
  that have never been at the Games to...
• 1:01:12
  to judge and it's like
• 1:01:13
  they've been there they've
• 1:01:15
  experienced certain things
• 1:01:16
  maybe that you know even if
• 1:01:18
  I've been at the games like
• 1:01:19
  I don't have the same
• 1:01:20
  experience as some of those
• 1:01:21
  athletes that have been
• 1:01:21
  there much longer and and
• 1:01:24
  how they like how they felt
• 1:01:25
  I just have my personal
• 1:01:26
  experience to to draw back
• 1:01:28
  on um but yeah I think it's
• 1:01:36
  It's whatever that they feel
• 1:01:39
  is best for them in terms
• 1:01:43
  of what they're looking for.
• 1:01:44
  That could vary,
• 1:01:45
  but I do think that someone
• 1:01:47
  being held accountable or a
• 1:01:49
  few different things could
• 1:01:50
  be one of the reasons.
• 1:01:57
  Does it help that they have
• 1:01:58
  a contract and they already
• 1:01:59
  have another opportunity elsewhere?
• 1:02:04
  Let's be honest.
• 1:02:04
  Yes.
• 1:02:06
  Um, I think, you know,
• 1:02:08
  if you look at certain
• 1:02:09
  athletes that don't have
• 1:02:10
  those contracts and their bubble athletes,
• 1:02:13
  like, I think it's a harder to,
• 1:02:16
  I'm not going to say harder
• 1:02:16
  cause I don't want to put any judgment.
• 1:02:21
  But I think having other
• 1:02:23
  opportunities already set
• 1:02:25
  in stone in terms of a
• 1:02:26
  contract and a season is
• 1:02:30
  helpful maybe for certain
• 1:02:31
  decisions by certain
• 1:02:33
  athletes versus if you have
• 1:02:34
  nothing or less sponsors.
• 1:02:42
  So I'm going to jump in.
• 1:02:45
  Because I know there are
• 1:02:46
  things that with you as
• 1:02:49
  athletes probably can't
• 1:02:51
  cross the line and I can.
• 1:02:53
  And so I'm going to say it.
• 1:02:56
  One thing that it's a lot
• 1:02:57
  easier for athletes who
• 1:02:59
  have been there nine years
• 1:03:00
  to the games to say, Hey,
• 1:03:02
  I'm not doing it because
• 1:03:04
  they've already had the experience.
• 1:03:07
  There are so many athletes
• 1:03:08
  fighting for that opportunity.
• 1:03:11
  And now these bigger names
• 1:03:12
  in the sports are almost
• 1:03:14
  becoming an influence.
• 1:03:18
  And I hope that they're able
• 1:03:21
  to separate from that and
• 1:03:24
  make their own decision
• 1:03:25
  based on the own facts and
• 1:03:27
  needs that they have and
• 1:03:29
  their own experiences.
• 1:03:31
  Does that make sense?
• 1:03:36
  Pat Vellner has podiumed.
• 1:03:38
  He's been to the game several times.
• 1:03:40
  He's made a lot of money in this sport.
• 1:03:42
  He's done a lot of things.
• 1:03:45
  But there's a lot of
• 1:03:46
  athletes that haven't had
• 1:03:47
  that experience yet.
• 1:03:49
  And I don't want that taken away if,
• 1:03:53
  and this is a big if,
• 1:03:56
  if CrossFit is moving in
• 1:03:58
  the right direction.
• 1:04:01
  Which I hope it is.
• 1:04:02
  Like, you know, I hope that
• 1:04:09
  I don't know how to say this,
• 1:04:10
  but someone didn't lose a
• 1:04:13
  life for nothing.
• 1:04:15
  And this doesn't forever
• 1:04:18
  change the safety measures.
• 1:04:21
  And that is the only life that we'll ever,
• 1:04:25
  ever lose.
• 1:04:26
  And like I said,
• 1:04:27
  it should have never happened.
• 1:04:29
  It didn't.
• 1:04:30
  will never be forgotten,
• 1:04:32
  but I sure hope that if that,
• 1:04:35
  if that didn't open the
• 1:04:37
  eyes of the games team and
• 1:04:39
  I've worked on the demo team with like,
• 1:04:42
  I have worked behind scenes as well.
• 1:04:44
  And I know, like I've seen, you know,
• 1:04:46
  some of the people behind
• 1:04:47
  scenes and I've done with
• 1:04:48
  rogue and stuff like they
• 1:04:50
  care about the athletes and
• 1:04:51
  they do care about the
• 1:04:52
  competition and putting on, you know,
• 1:04:54
  a safe show and, and stuff.
• 1:04:56
  And we saw the worst thing ever happen.
• 1:05:00
  Um,
• 1:05:01
  And I just hope that it wasn't,
• 1:05:04
  it's not ever going to happen again.
• 1:05:07
  And real, you know,
• 1:05:10
  more thought is going to be
• 1:05:11
  put into place in terms of, uh,
• 1:05:14
  safety procedures.
• 1:05:15
  Like even if you have like, you know,
• 1:05:16
  rope climbs, like mats underneath,
• 1:05:18
  and I'm not an expert in safety.
• 1:05:20
  Like that's not my, that's not my.
• 1:05:24
  As an athlete,
• 1:05:26
  I can't foresee every single
• 1:05:28
  thing that could happen wrong,
• 1:05:29
  but I hope that with the
• 1:05:31
  people that they've hired
• 1:05:32
  and the eyes on the sport
• 1:05:34
  and maybe people that are
• 1:05:35
  not within our sport and
• 1:05:36
  can think of other things that can happen,
• 1:05:38
  that the right people are
• 1:05:40
  put into place to avoid
• 1:05:42
  anything that is preventable.
• 1:05:44
  Now, will accidents happen in sports?
• 1:05:47
  They can.
• 1:05:48
  It's, you know,
• 1:05:50
  there's risk inherited in certain things.
• 1:05:53
  But in terms of preventable
• 1:05:55
  things or the response to
• 1:05:57
  different things,
• 1:05:57
  I hope that the emergency
• 1:06:01
  action plans are well thought of and that,
• 1:06:06
  like I said,
• 1:06:07
  someone didn't die for no
• 1:06:12
  change to happen and that, you know,
• 1:06:15
  I don't know how to say it another way,
• 1:06:17
  but I hope that comes out right.
• 1:06:20
  I think it's coming out perfectly,
• 1:06:21
  but I want to say this.
• 1:06:25
  There were three demands made by the PFAA.
• 1:06:28
  One of them was that they
• 1:06:29
  wanted to see the investigation.
• 1:06:33
  We don't know if legally
• 1:06:34
  CrossFit could even show that to them,
• 1:06:36
  right?
• 1:06:37
  But it wasn't a negotiation.
• 1:06:39
  It was an ultimatum.
• 1:06:40
  PFA made an ultimatum.
• 1:06:42
  These three things.
• 1:06:43
  The other thing was they
• 1:06:44
  wanted to be a part of
• 1:06:45
  safety decisions in the future.
• 1:06:49
  What gives PFAA the
• 1:06:51
  knowledge and the ability
• 1:06:53
  to be safety experts in the field?
• 1:06:56
  CrossFit went out and
• 1:06:58
  brought on a safety council
• 1:07:00
  when we read the
• 1:07:01
  backgrounds of those
• 1:07:02
  individuals actually have
• 1:07:05
  safety experience behind their names.
• 1:07:09
  So there has been change made.
• 1:07:13
  Now,
• 1:07:13
  we have to trust that they're going to
• 1:07:14
  use that council because in years past,
• 1:07:18
  CrossFit has brought on
• 1:07:19
  councils and not used them.
• 1:07:21
  And that is well known.
• 1:07:24
  So that is – to me,
• 1:07:26
  that's the crux of the issue.
• 1:07:28
  I think CrossFit has done
• 1:07:29
  the right things if they
• 1:07:31
  use the people they brought on.
• 1:07:33
  They had the athletes elect
• 1:07:36
  an athlete council.
• 1:07:38
  But you needed – the only
• 1:07:39
  thing with that is you needed certain –
• 1:07:44
  um, not standards.
• 1:07:47
  Uh, like you had to have a level one,
• 1:07:48
  you had to have, uh, certain credentials.
• 1:07:53
  So I, but I think that that makes it less,
• 1:07:57
  um, in independent council,
• 1:08:01
  like less you're already bought in.
• 1:08:03
  Maybe you're more likely to
• 1:08:05
  already have certain, um,
• 1:08:12
  biases, which I understand.
• 1:08:16
  I think I, I don't like, you know,
• 1:08:17
  the PFA doesn't necessarily
• 1:08:19
  have any of those, um, uh, requirements.
• 1:08:25
  Um,
• 1:08:26
  obviously the PFA was mostly just for
• 1:08:29
  the games, uh,
• 1:08:30
  individual athletes for now, but.
• 1:08:34
  Yeah,
• 1:08:35
  I like the idea of the CAC in terms
• 1:08:36
  of it's reaching different
• 1:08:38
  age groups and stuff like that.
• 1:08:40
  I think there could have
• 1:08:41
  been some requirements that
• 1:08:42
  are taken away to allow
• 1:08:44
  more people to put their voices out
• 1:08:47
  board.
• 1:08:47
  I actually regret not putting my,
• 1:08:50
  my name in.
• 1:08:52
  I wasn't sure how much time
• 1:08:53
  I was going to have and stuff.
• 1:08:54
  And in hindsight, I wish I would be more,
• 1:08:59
  I wish I could play a more
• 1:09:00
  active role in part of the solution to,
• 1:09:03
  to changing things.
• 1:09:04
  So perhaps next year I'll give my name.
• 1:09:09
  I think I was,
• 1:09:10
  I don't know why I second
• 1:09:12
  guessed myself putting,
• 1:09:13
  cause I do have those
• 1:09:14
  credentials anyways.
• 1:09:16
  But yeah,
• 1:09:19
  I think a more independent group,
• 1:09:22
  and I think the fact that
• 1:09:24
  they created that without
• 1:09:25
  even listing or even
• 1:09:28
  acknowledging the PFAA also
• 1:09:29
  didn't sit right with many
• 1:09:31
  of the athletes, of course,
• 1:09:32
  that had already worked
• 1:09:33
  very hard to create certain...
• 1:09:36
  certain ideas,
• 1:09:37
  certain standards within the space.
• 1:09:39
  I think that that,
• 1:09:40
  that already shows that
• 1:09:41
  they weren't like they,
• 1:09:43
  they weren't really listening to them,
• 1:09:45
  which could leave a bad taste.
• 1:09:48
  Um, but like I said,
• 1:09:50
  I hope that they're
• 1:09:54
  acknowledging the input from,
• 1:09:55
  from the CAC.
• 1:09:56
  And I hope that the CAC
• 1:09:57
  reaches out to the
• 1:09:59
  community for more ideas.
• 1:10:02
  Um,
• 1:10:04
  surveys, whatnot,
• 1:10:06
  to bring up different
• 1:10:07
  points of things that can get better.
• 1:10:10
  Because like I said, as an athlete,
• 1:10:11
  I'm not an expert in safety.
• 1:10:13
  I'm not an expert in a bunch
• 1:10:15
  of different things.
• 1:10:16
  But I do have some ideas for some stuff.
• 1:10:21
  So
• 1:10:25
  there's a lot of great
• 1:10:26
  comments uh but they've
• 1:10:27
  been flown in pretty fast
• 1:10:29
  and furious and trying to
• 1:10:30
  keep up them uh has been
• 1:10:32
  tough uh so dex commented
• 1:10:36
  way earlier has anyone come
• 1:10:38
  out and just said that
• 1:10:39
  they'd make more money
• 1:10:40
  that's what I honestly I
• 1:10:42
  feel like carolyn lambray did
• 1:10:46
  Right.
• 1:10:46
  So they, they early on said,
• 1:10:49
  and I think that's a real thing.
• 1:10:51
  Like if these signups don't
• 1:10:53
  increase and tenth is only
• 1:10:55
  going to get like four or
• 1:10:56
  five thousand at the games,
• 1:10:59
  it probably makes sense to
• 1:11:00
  go the WFP route and get your ten, twenty,
• 1:11:04
  thirty, whatever you're like.
• 1:11:06
  I hate in one vein.
• 1:11:08
  I hate that it's a
• 1:11:09
  guaranteed contract because
• 1:11:11
  I want to see people fight
• 1:11:12
  for that prize money.
• 1:11:15
  Like I, I want to see, like,
• 1:11:19
  I'd rather see bonus for event wins.
• 1:11:21
  I'd rather see.
• 1:11:22
  I mean,
• 1:11:22
  you see that in sports all the time
• 1:11:24
  though.
• 1:11:24
  Like people have their
• 1:11:25
  contracts for the year and
• 1:11:27
  then they can lose it after
• 1:11:28
  like in professional sports,
• 1:11:30
  you you're given a contract for one year,
• 1:11:32
  two year, three year, eight year,
• 1:11:33
  whatever.
• 1:11:34
  And you can shit the bed.
• 1:11:35
  You can be injured,
• 1:11:37
  but you're guaranteed that contract.
• 1:11:38
  And that's what makes it professional.
• 1:11:41
  versus just earning.
• 1:11:42
  Like if you look at certain
• 1:11:43
  sports that you're having
• 1:11:44
  to earn it every year and you get injured,
• 1:11:47
  like it's, it's hard.
• 1:11:49
  Like the,
• 1:11:53
  I do like the guaranteed contracts.
• 1:11:55
  I do like that because
• 1:11:57
  that's what it is in professional sports.
• 1:11:59
  You want to have that
• 1:12:00
  cushion that you're not
• 1:12:01
  thinking about money the whole time.
• 1:12:04
  I'm not saying that it's a
• 1:12:08
  significant amount.
• 1:12:09
  I don't know how much money
• 1:12:09
  that the contracted athletes are making.
• 1:12:12
  There's some rumors of the
• 1:12:13
  thirty thousand or something like that.
• 1:12:14
  It's
• 1:12:18
  I do like that.
• 1:12:18
  At least it's just one year
• 1:12:21
  and then it's performance
• 1:12:22
  space and you lose it.
• 1:12:23
  Like you're, you're only like,
• 1:12:25
  and it's just really this group.
• 1:12:26
  That's not, that is it's,
• 1:12:29
  it's earned in terms of
• 1:12:31
  their previous performance.
• 1:12:33
  I just, I, I wish we knew,
• 1:12:35
  like still don't fully
• 1:12:37
  understand how the challengers work.
• 1:12:40
  Do they, do they get paid?
• 1:12:42
  Do they get like,
• 1:12:45
  There's it's going to,
• 1:12:47
  I feel like it's going to
• 1:12:47
  be hard for new athletes to
• 1:12:50
  break into this, honestly,
• 1:12:52
  with the point system,
• 1:12:52
  with the double points.
• 1:12:53
  And that's what I don't like.
• 1:12:54
  Like somehow you need to be
• 1:12:56
  enticing these challengers to,
• 1:12:58
  to get there.
• 1:12:59
  It needs like, why is there way not paid?
• 1:13:02
  Why are like,
• 1:13:06
  do they get four grand at the,
• 1:13:09
  at the end of forgetting?
• 1:13:11
  I don't know.
• 1:13:11
  Like, I don't know how that works.
• 1:13:13
  Um,
• 1:13:15
  I just,
• 1:13:17
  I feel like there needs to be a way
• 1:13:18
  to like entice these
• 1:13:20
  challengers pay their way, pay their,
• 1:13:24
  you know,
• 1:13:25
  like there's a reason people
• 1:13:26
  want to go to rogue and
• 1:13:28
  Dubai when it was like covering that,
• 1:13:30
  those costs,
• 1:13:31
  like to take away that burden
• 1:13:34
  on these newbie athletes,
• 1:13:36
  trying to break into the space is huge.
• 1:13:42
  But the reason that Rogue
• 1:13:43
  can do that is they're not
• 1:13:45
  there to make money.
• 1:13:46
  That is their marketing
• 1:13:47
  budget for the year.
• 1:13:49
  They're putting on a
• 1:13:50
  showcase of their equipment
• 1:13:51
  with the two biggest groups
• 1:13:53
  that sell their equipment.
• 1:13:55
  And they just want to
• 1:13:56
  showcase the athletes and
• 1:13:58
  they want to support the athletes.
• 1:14:02
  They honestly really care
• 1:14:03
  about just putting on a
• 1:14:04
  great show and showcasing
• 1:14:05
  their equipment.
• 1:14:08
  They're not making money
• 1:14:09
  from the Rogue Invitational.
• 1:14:12
  The last thing I want to say
• 1:14:13
  is why do we have to
• 1:14:14
  dislike either one of them?
• 1:14:16
  Let them both run their race.
• 1:14:18
  And hopefully at the end,
• 1:14:21
  if you can't sustain both of them,
• 1:14:24
  you take the best parts of
• 1:14:26
  both entities and you mush
• 1:14:28
  it together into a better season.
• 1:14:32
  Because it's not untrue that
• 1:14:36
  we've been asking CrossFit
• 1:14:37
  to change the season format forever.
• 1:14:41
  Like, aside of all the safety stuff,
• 1:14:43
  we have been asking for a
• 1:14:45
  simpler reason to follow this season,
• 1:14:49
  to be able to explain it.
• 1:14:51
  Maybe the WFP comes up with that format,
• 1:14:56
  and you steal that over to here,
• 1:14:59
  and you make a better season.
• 1:15:00
  Yeah.
• 1:15:02
  So I...
• 1:15:04
  I feel like I've lived that
• 1:15:06
  with like hockey.
• 1:15:07
  I mean,
• 1:15:07
  like we had one league and then
• 1:15:10
  another league started and
• 1:15:11
  then they had some,
• 1:15:12
  some great ideas of how they went,
• 1:15:14
  but it was still kind of divided.
• 1:15:16
  So like our fans were a little bit divided,
• 1:15:18
  but then now last year they
• 1:15:20
  finally came into one and
• 1:15:21
  they grabbed like all the best stuff.
• 1:15:23
  And now it's just, you know, taking off.
• 1:15:28
  Yeah.
• 1:15:29
  I, I want both to succeed.
• 1:15:30
  I want, I want athletes to be able to,
• 1:15:33
  you know,
• 1:15:34
  have different competitions
• 1:15:36
  that they can go to and, and,
• 1:15:38
  and earn a living and, you know,
• 1:15:40
  competing is just fun.
• 1:15:41
  Like I, I love competing.
• 1:15:43
  I like,
• 1:15:45
  I like doing it.
• 1:15:46
  I want those opportunities
• 1:15:47
  to be there for athletes.
• 1:15:48
  I'm at the tail end of my career.
• 1:15:50
  I'm entering the Masters this year.
• 1:15:55
  I was given many great
• 1:15:56
  opportunities in the sport
• 1:15:57
  and I don't want that to be
• 1:15:59
  limited for the next
• 1:16:00
  generation too of athletes.
• 1:16:04
  It's
• 1:16:05
  it's, it's life changing.
• 1:16:07
  Like it's the way that, you know,
• 1:16:09
  I go about my day now,
• 1:16:10
  like I don't do this full time,
• 1:16:11
  but like it changed my life.
• 1:16:13
  Um, and it's been a huge part of mine.
• 1:16:15
  So I don't, I don't want to see it die.
• 1:16:18
  This is my exact,
• 1:16:21
  I don't want to see it die.
• 1:16:22
  Like it means too much.
• 1:16:23
  It means too much to my, to my affiliate,
• 1:16:25
  the community.
• 1:16:26
  Like it just, like,
• 1:16:29
  I'm a fan of the sport.
• 1:16:30
  I'm a fan of the athletes.
• 1:16:31
  Like I, I,
• 1:16:33
  I'm a fan of the methodology.
• 1:16:34
  Like it's the best,
• 1:16:35
  best methodology out there.
• 1:16:37
  Um,
• 1:16:39
  I don't know what the right way is to
• 1:16:41
  move things forward to me.
• 1:16:42
  I I'm doing it with my community.
• 1:16:46
  Like that, that's, that's how, that's,
• 1:16:48
  that's the only way I know.
• 1:16:49
  Like it's, it's with them.
• 1:16:50
  It's, but I also respect everyone that's,
• 1:16:55
  that's doing it for their
• 1:16:56
  own reasons and not doing
• 1:16:57
  it for their reasons.
• 1:16:59
  Um,
• 1:17:01
  it's just, it's,
• 1:17:03
  it's hurting to be divided.
• 1:17:04
  That's for sure.
• 1:17:06
  Phil's comment is exactly bring that up,
• 1:17:08
  Scott.
• 1:17:08
  Cause that's exactly where I'm at.
• 1:17:10
  There's three qualifiers and
• 1:17:12
  they're not all guaranteed
• 1:17:13
  to make all events.
• 1:17:14
  It's almost impossible for a challenger.
• 1:17:16
  That's exactly what I think
• 1:17:18
  is going to happen.
• 1:17:18
  I think there's going to be one or two,
• 1:17:19
  like Colton's probably
• 1:17:20
  going to take somebody down and that's,
• 1:17:23
  and maybe one other person
• 1:17:24
  and that's about it.
• 1:17:25
  And it's going to continue
• 1:17:26
  to stay like that.
• 1:17:26
  I don't like that.
• 1:17:27
  I don't,
• 1:17:29
  I don't like the fact that
• 1:17:30
  the the card gets you
• 1:17:32
  different levels of a
• 1:17:33
  contract a card should be a
• 1:17:35
  card everybody should have
• 1:17:37
  the same amount regardless
• 1:17:39
  and you have to fight for
• 1:17:40
  that and then if you win
• 1:17:41
  more events during that
• 1:17:42
  year then you can make more
• 1:17:44
  money but the card should
• 1:17:45
  be of the same value across
• 1:17:47
  the board and I'm hearing
• 1:17:49
  that that is not the case
• 1:17:50
  that's ridiculous
• 1:17:54
  I want to speak to this.
• 1:17:55
  Games athletes with
• 1:17:56
  thousands and thousands of
• 1:17:57
  followers publicly
• 1:17:58
  announcing they're not
• 1:17:59
  doing the Open is actively
• 1:18:01
  hurting everything about CrossFit period.
• 1:18:03
  I do believe it's having an effect,
• 1:18:05
  but I believe that the Open
• 1:18:07
  is bigger than the main athletes.
• 1:18:10
  When I first did the Open,
• 1:18:12
  I didn't know about the big athletes.
• 1:18:15
  Like my first Open,
• 1:18:17
  I was clueless to what the sport was.
• 1:18:20
  And it's because my gym...
• 1:18:24
  made got me to buy in on
• 1:18:26
  what the open was and what
• 1:18:27
  this community event could be.
• 1:18:30
  And so I think it's,
• 1:18:31
  it falls on Jim affiliate
• 1:18:33
  owners to really promote
• 1:18:35
  the open on what it is as a
• 1:18:37
  community event.
• 1:18:38
  And we talked about that at
• 1:18:39
  length at the beginning of this podcast,
• 1:18:41
  all the great things that
• 1:18:43
  affiliate owners are doing
• 1:18:44
  out there to make it a family event,
• 1:18:46
  a community event for
• 1:18:48
  everybody to gather around celebration.
• 1:18:51
  That's why we do the open.
• 1:18:53
  I don't do the open because
• 1:18:55
  Pat Vellner did the open.
• 1:18:58
  I do the open because I get
• 1:19:00
  to hang out with my crew.
• 1:19:03
  And you do hard shit during
• 1:19:05
  those three weeks.
• 1:19:08
  Just signing up for
• 1:19:09
  something just makes you go harder,
• 1:19:11
  just makes you push a little bit more,
• 1:19:15
  keeps you accountable year to year.
• 1:19:19
  And Megan,
• 1:19:20
  your interview with Dave the
• 1:19:21
  other day was awesome, by the way.
• 1:19:29
  I think it's having an
• 1:19:30
  effect on more people than
• 1:19:33
  we would really want to admit.
• 1:19:38
  Yes,
• 1:19:39
  it's definitely going to have an impact,
• 1:19:42
  but I hope it's going to
• 1:19:43
  have a positive impact in
• 1:19:45
  terms of the change that
• 1:19:48
  needs to happen to never
• 1:19:49
  have this happen again.
• 1:19:51
  That, I hope it happens.
• 1:19:53
  Now,
• 1:19:54
  I just hope that we can also continue to
• 1:19:58
  have our sport and um have
• 1:20:02
  the opportunities keep
• 1:20:03
  growing like it's ken's got
• 1:20:06
  it I hope the impact is is
• 1:20:08
  there in terms of the
• 1:20:10
  changes if millions of
• 1:20:12
  followers then see the best
• 1:20:13
  of the best thing boycott
• 1:20:15
  it affects signups the
• 1:20:16
  numbers right now show they
• 1:20:17
  are having a negative
• 1:20:18
  effect right I I agree but
• 1:20:20
  I want to point out like
• 1:20:21
  hattie canyo made a post
• 1:20:22
  today why I'm in on the open that's good
• 1:20:26
  You heard Carolyn talk about
• 1:20:28
  why she's in on the Open tonight.
• 1:20:30
  You know that Jamie is
• 1:20:32
  passionate about doing the Open.
• 1:20:35
  We need all the other
• 1:20:37
  athletes that are staying
• 1:20:38
  in making their posts as to
• 1:20:40
  why they're doing it.
• 1:20:43
  But they sign up at the last minute.
• 1:20:47
  That's the thing.
• 1:20:48
  You got to see more...
• 1:20:52
  I never understood that
• 1:20:53
  personally but again I
• 1:20:54
  people have their reasons
• 1:20:56
  um and to me if there's a
• 1:20:59
  time to sign up if there's
• 1:21:01
  a year that you want to
• 1:21:02
  show a message or whatever
• 1:21:04
  it would be this year um
• 1:21:06
  like we're like by the end
• 1:21:07
  of the week one we're gonna
• 1:21:08
  see who's in and who's not
• 1:21:10
  like if you can if you want
• 1:21:13
  to be in and you want to
• 1:21:14
  affect it in a certain way
• 1:21:15
  like you have to
• 1:21:18
  put your, put your name out there, like,
• 1:21:20
  so that people can like be
• 1:21:22
  a leader one way or the other.
• 1:21:23
  Like it's whether you're
• 1:21:25
  being a leader and stepping
• 1:21:26
  away and you have your
• 1:21:27
  reasons and that's the way
• 1:21:29
  that you feel like is the
• 1:21:31
  best way for yourself.
• 1:21:32
  Okay.
• 1:21:33
  Be a leader the other way in
• 1:21:34
  terms of what you want to
• 1:21:37
  continue to push forward.
• 1:21:38
  If you want to be in a solution,
• 1:21:40
  if you want to be part of
• 1:21:41
  the solution actively, um, taking part,
• 1:21:45
  then I don't know.
• 1:21:47
  Well,
• 1:21:47
  To go back to your original question,
• 1:21:49
  Scott,
• 1:21:49
  I don't think there's going to be
• 1:21:51
  ten top tier athletes that don't sign up.
• 1:21:56
  So I still think it's going to be a wash.
• 1:21:58
  I just I don't think there's
• 1:21:59
  any like twenty in terms of
• 1:22:02
  ten each side.
• 1:22:03
  We're talking about twenty athletes,
• 1:22:04
  twenty athletes.
• 1:22:05
  I don't think there's gonna
• 1:22:06
  be ten for sure.
• 1:22:08
  We're in the part of the
• 1:22:10
  problem is I feel like some
• 1:22:11
  of these I'm outs were kind
• 1:22:13
  of already out anyway.
• 1:22:15
  They weren't,
• 1:22:16
  they were not shoe-ins to be games.
• 1:22:18
  I think you're going to wind
• 1:22:19
  up with two or three that
• 1:22:21
  were probably at a spot that back out.
• 1:22:23
  And it's not, it's not going to be like,
• 1:22:26
  it's not inviting new
• 1:22:27
  people to game because we
• 1:22:28
  dropped to ten spots.
• 1:22:29
  And I think most of the
• 1:22:32
  people that could be out
• 1:22:35
  probably have a contract or
• 1:22:37
  another opportunity
• 1:22:38
  elsewhere or they're within
• 1:22:40
  the retirement reach that
• 1:22:43
  They're already phasing out that way.
• 1:22:47
  So someone asked if Shay,
• 1:22:51
  one of our loyal listeners
• 1:22:52
  and always comments on our stuff,
• 1:22:54
  so happy that she's with us, says,
• 1:22:56
  is Tia in or out?
• 1:22:57
  And Dex's response is what I
• 1:22:59
  want to talk about.
• 1:23:00
  When the money's right, she's in.
• 1:23:02
  I hear.
• 1:23:03
  That's a big point of this, right?
• 1:23:05
  If you're a pro,
• 1:23:06
  if you're an athlete who
• 1:23:07
  wants to compete at the
• 1:23:08
  games and you want the
• 1:23:09
  prized purse to be as much
• 1:23:11
  as you can get it to be you saying, Hey,
• 1:23:14
  I'm in support me helps
• 1:23:18
  your bottom line at the end of the day.
• 1:23:20
  Right.
• 1:23:23
  Right.
• 1:23:26
  So, um,
• 1:23:31
  yeah we did we definitely
• 1:23:33
  went off agenda tonight for
• 1:23:35
  sure um but it was an
• 1:23:37
  important conversation I
• 1:23:38
  think uh we got a lot out
• 1:23:39
  of this um that's a great
• 1:23:48
  question shade then why
• 1:23:49
  isn't she promoting the
• 1:23:50
  open I mean that's her
• 1:23:52
  choice and and maybe she's
• 1:23:54
  already made a decision and
• 1:23:55
  we're just speculating who knows
• 1:24:00
  But I think if you are
• 1:24:01
  definitely in and you're
• 1:24:02
  not promoting the open,
• 1:24:05
  you're only hurting your
• 1:24:06
  bottom line at the end of the day.
• 1:24:09
  I agree.
• 1:24:12
  I don't think it's in
• 1:24:13
  everyone's personalities to,
• 1:24:15
  to necessarily promote the
• 1:24:19
  open or put themselves out
• 1:24:21
  there to be judged one way or another.
• 1:24:26
  So I think that's also why a
• 1:24:28
  lot are more quiet and kind
• 1:24:29
  of staying under the radar
• 1:24:31
  until a little bit closer.
• 1:24:34
  Um,
• 1:24:36
  But just with that, like,
• 1:24:37
  Barbell Spin named you as
• 1:24:39
  an athlete that's in.
• 1:24:41
  Like, they did their own research,
• 1:24:42
  went through the sign-ups.
• 1:24:44
  These are the people that
• 1:24:45
  have signed up and kind of
• 1:24:46
  did the legwork for us to
• 1:24:48
  see what elite-level
• 1:24:51
  athletes have signed up for the Open.
• 1:24:54
  And they put a post out there.
• 1:25:01
  And just to clean this up,
• 1:25:02
  Ruan Portgui... Ruan...
• 1:25:05
  I'm going to mess it up.
• 1:25:07
  I wrote it down, and now I can't.
• 1:25:09
  Pot guider.
• 1:25:10
  Pot guider?
• 1:25:10
  Something like that.
• 1:25:13
  Is out due to injury for this season.
• 1:25:17
  So that's another athlete
• 1:25:18
  that won't be competing,
• 1:25:19
  but he's doing it because
• 1:25:22
  he can't do it because of injury.
• 1:25:30
  Okay.
• 1:25:34
  Man, you guys are moving so fast.
• 1:25:35
  I'm even clicking the wrong ones.
• 1:25:37
  Proven is promoting the open.
• 1:25:38
  That is Tia's brand.
• 1:25:41
  That's a good point.
• 1:25:41
  That's a good start.
• 1:25:43
  It is.
• 1:25:44
  They have been.
• 1:25:45
  Probably the camp.
• 1:25:47
  Mayhem.
• 1:25:48
  Dumb and Mayhem have been the two camps,
• 1:25:50
  I feel like.
• 1:25:51
  That's good.
• 1:25:52
  And then right now,
• 1:25:53
  Max Ahaj with Trading Think
• 1:25:56
  Tank has been also kind of
• 1:25:59
  doubling down on his
• 1:26:01
  reasonings to stay in.
• 1:26:03
  So if I were to guess,
• 1:26:06
  maybe some of the athletes
• 1:26:07
  there may stay in.
• 1:26:11
  James Newberry, her High Rocks partner,
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  also just posted a reel that he is in.
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  So maybe things are pointing
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  towards Tia being in.
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  But yeah.
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  I hope that.
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  And it's been said in the comments,
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  and I can't find it specifically,
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  but there's been a lot of
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  fluctuation over the period of CrossFit.
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  Just with like when we did
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  the sanctional season,
• 1:26:41
  there was a fluctuation in open signups.
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  When we did every kind of new format,
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  the fall open was awful for signups.
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  If you remember that,
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  I think that was the second
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  sanctional season, right?
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  The twenty twenty season.
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  It was twenty.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah,
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  that was horrific when they tried to
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  fall open.
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  So there's a lot of things
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  that affect open signups.
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  Hopefully,
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  this just gives new people new
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  opportunities.
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  It's people that we have
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  been rooting for forever to
• 1:27:15
  get an opportunity to
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  compete at the highest levels.
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  But man, we have killed the open tonight.
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  Yes, Dex, they can do both.
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  at for now I'll see in the
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  future years if that ever
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  changes so I'm going to
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  save the second half of the
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  rundown for next week thank
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  you um because I know jamie
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  has not eaten yet I have
• 1:27:41
  not eaten from the gym as
• 1:27:43
  we went live uh but I want
• 1:27:45
  to thank you guys for the
• 1:27:46
  open dialogue um
• 1:27:49
  I want nothing more than
• 1:27:50
  this podcast to be just a
• 1:27:52
  safe space for everybody to
• 1:27:54
  talk about their feelings,
• 1:27:55
  whatever they are.
• 1:27:56
  It's okay to think
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  differently than one another,
• 1:27:59
  as long as we can sit down
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  and talk about it.
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  That's what I'm here for.
• 1:28:05
  And yeah, and I like a respectful chat too,
• 1:28:09
  because sometimes the chats
• 1:28:10
  in different outlets can get out of hand.
• 1:28:14
  So I want a respectful
• 1:28:17
  podcast chat as well.
• 1:28:19
  So thank you for that.
• 1:28:21
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• 1:28:21
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• 1:28:30
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• 1:28:33
  That would be awesome as well.
• 1:28:35
  Um, let us rage.
• 1:28:39
  Uh, Ken Walters, my mouse just died.
• 1:28:43
  Um, and you can eat on air.
• 1:28:45
  J Y and Taylor do.
• 1:28:46
  Uh, yeah, that'd be a mess.
• 1:28:49
  I have ate on air many times.
• 1:28:51
  When I'm at Lex's house,
• 1:28:53
  I try to eat off screen a little bit.
• 1:28:57
  Yeah.
• 1:29:00
  Yeah.
• 1:29:03
  I try to be on my best
• 1:29:03
  behavior on this channel.
• 1:29:05
  It requires a small amount,
• 1:29:07
  no small amount of self-control.
• 1:29:09
  Believe me.
• 1:29:11
  Same, Kenneth.
• 1:29:12
  That's awesome.
• 1:29:14
  Yeah, because we don't always agree,
• 1:29:16
  like all three of us on our
• 1:29:17
  point of views, even for a lot of things.
• 1:29:20
  But I think that we can
• 1:29:22
  respect each other at the
• 1:29:23
  end of the day and have
• 1:29:26
  good discussions on how you
• 1:29:29
  see things or how I see
• 1:29:30
  things and kind of allow
• 1:29:34
  other people in the chat to
• 1:29:35
  maybe understand different
• 1:29:37
  points of views,
• 1:29:38
  which sometimes are not
• 1:29:40
  seen in other podcasts.
• 1:29:41
  And
• 1:29:44
  Carolyn and Jamie have changed my name.
• 1:29:46
  It's have changed my mind in
• 1:29:48
  the past before.
• 1:29:49
  And maybe I've had a shot at
• 1:29:51
  doing that once or twice with them.
• 1:29:55
  But yeah, we,
• 1:29:55
  you should hear some of the
• 1:29:57
  right after we're off the
• 1:29:58
  air discussions.
• 1:30:04
  so um but you guys are the
• 1:30:07
  best we love each and every
• 1:30:08
  one of you we love your
• 1:30:09
  passion we love that you
• 1:30:11
  guys are here every week
• 1:30:13
  and can't wait to jump back
• 1:30:15
  on in with you next week on
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