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23andMe: Unlock Your Own DNA Mystery! · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Twenty three and me, you'd have to be living under
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Speaker 1: a rock in a cave in a far away distantly
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Speaker 1: and not to know what twenty three and me is.
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Speaker 1: It's ancestry testing. You find out where you're from, who
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Speaker 1: you are, so to speak, chromosometally, genetically that is, Can
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Speaker 1: that discovery unlock secrets, the secrets of your genetic makeup
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Speaker 1: that can help you lead a healthier and I believe,
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Speaker 1: happier life. We hear stories about genetic tracing that you
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Speaker 1: find distant relatives, You find out your family tree goes
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Speaker 1: all the way back to Anglo Saxon times. But how
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Speaker 1: can it help me into here? And now I'm raising
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Speaker 1: two twins they just turn fifteen. Let me wash my
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Speaker 1: mouth out with soap. I can't believe they're fifteen? Can
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Speaker 1: I learn anything from this genetic Let me say genetic makeup,
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Speaker 1: genetic identity, genetic composite that will help my twins and
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Speaker 1: me and my husband David and my mother Elizabeth live
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Speaker 1: a longer, healthier life. I mean, see Grace and we
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Speaker 1: are talking about twenty three and me with me an
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Speaker 1: all star panel to make sense of all of this.
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Speaker 1: If you're a LA person like me, Hey, I'm just
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Speaker 1: a JD. But I know nothing about genetic counseling. What
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Speaker 1: does it mean? Joining me an incredible host of yes,
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Speaker 1: But I want to go first to Stacy debt Willer.
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Speaker 1: She is a license certified genetic counselor with twenty three
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Speaker 1: and me. Stacy, thank you so much for being with us,
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Speaker 1: Thank you for pleasure to be here. What is in
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Speaker 1: a nutshell? Remember this is twenty three and me for dummies?
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Speaker 1: What is twenty three? And me? Hey, guys, by the way,
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Speaker 1: I took the test, go ahead tell me Stacy. It's
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Speaker 1: a lot, right. So I think you kind of mentioned
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Speaker 1: what people first think about is an ancestry, but what
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Speaker 1: I really get excited about it is the hall. And
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Speaker 1: there is a lot of information that you can find
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Speaker 1: out from a little bit of spit, which we're able
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Speaker 1: to have got DNA from, So there is information about
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Speaker 1: your Wait, did you say a little bit of spit?
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Speaker 1: Because we had to spit and spit and spit. I
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Speaker 1: mean I'm used to quiminal cases, Stacy, where you get
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Speaker 1: a genetic marker and identity and like this mini skilled
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Speaker 1: amount of I don't blood saliva. Why did we have
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Speaker 1: to spit so much. Yeah, that's why we follow the
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Speaker 1: spit party. I didn't think about it like that. I
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Speaker 1: can't let Elisa take this one a little bit, just
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Speaker 1: because there's you know, you need to get enough DNA
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Speaker 1: from that sit more to be able to give you
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Speaker 1: all these insights. Um, there's over sixty five. Okay, I'll
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Speaker 1: go to Alisa with me is Alisa Lehman, Senior manager
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Speaker 1: and product science at twenty three and me and you
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Speaker 1: can find everybody at medical dot twenty three and me
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Speaker 1: dot com and it's and spelled out twenty three and
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Speaker 1: me dot com. Alisa, welcome to you and Stacy, why
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Speaker 1: so much spit? You know you're a PhD and a
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Speaker 1: senior manager. I feel kind of wrong asking you why
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Speaker 1: did I have to spit so much? But why did
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Speaker 1: I have to spit so much? Oh? Thank you for
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Speaker 1: having me? And why do you have to sit so much?
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Speaker 1: As the best question I think to ask. I'd love
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Speaker 1: I'd love answering questions like this. Um. Like Stacy said, right,
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Speaker 1: what we're trying to do is get your DNA um
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Speaker 1: the easiest way possible. Right. We don't want people to
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Speaker 1: have to go give us a blood sample, so spit
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Speaker 1: very easy to get. But what we're doing is we're
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Speaker 1: trying to get the DNA that's in almost every cell
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Speaker 1: in your body, including the cells inside your cheeks. So
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Speaker 1: when you spit and spit and spit, what's coming along
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Speaker 1: for the ride is some of those cheek cells from
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Speaker 1: your mouth. And what we're trying to do is make
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Speaker 1: sure that we're going to get enough of those cells
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Speaker 1: so we get enough DNA to make sure that when
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Speaker 1: we run and analyze that DNA extracted from the cells
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Speaker 1: and we try and figure out your a's and seas
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Speaker 1: and teas and GE's from your DNA, that we have
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Speaker 1: enough so you don't have to do it again what
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Speaker 1: our a's and seas and j's and tea. So your
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Speaker 1: DNA you can think of as a code that is
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Speaker 1: there to explain how to you know, what alsa lame
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Speaker 1: and just stop right there. My son who is a
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Speaker 1: star in robotics and science, and he keeps talking about coding,
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Speaker 1: and I keep acting like I know what he's talking about.
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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? So when I'm talking about
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Speaker 1: the genetic code, it is more like you know codes
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Speaker 1: during World War Two where you are trying there's information
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Speaker 1: but it is written in a way that you know
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Speaker 1: you need to be able to decode it to understand it.
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Speaker 1: So your DNA is like that. Okay, now I understand.
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Speaker 1: Now I understand with me, two new friends Stacy Dettweiler
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Speaker 1: and Alisa Lehman from twenty three and me and two
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Speaker 1: longtime friends Karen Start joining us are now psychologists joining
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Speaker 1: us out of Manhattan. You can find her at Karen
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Speaker 1: Stark dot com. That's Karen with a C. And doctor
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Speaker 1: Michelle Dupre, my longtime colleague joining us out of South Carolina.
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Speaker 1: Forensic pathologist, medical examiner, author of multiple books. Doctor Dupree, Now,
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Speaker 1: what about this a regular role? PhD? Just told me
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Speaker 1: something you've never told me. I've never heard the phrase
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Speaker 1: cheek sales. Have you heard the phrase cheek sales, Jackie? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you never mentioned that, Dupree. No, I always say epithelial cells,
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Speaker 1: and you crashed down on me for using such a
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Speaker 1: technical term. Yeah, I do. So the cells inside of
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Speaker 1: your cheek are epithelial cells, which I always equate with
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Speaker 1: cells that come from your skin. Well, they come from
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Speaker 1: they come from the outside of an organ. Okay, I'm
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Speaker 1: learning a lot, you know, Karen Start joining me in
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Speaker 1: New York psychologists. Why are so many people afraid to
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Speaker 1: get a DNA test? I think they're a rat danty
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Speaker 1: to find out things that they don't know, and the
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Speaker 1: unknown can often be scary, and especially if you get
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Speaker 1: health information and they wonder, well, what do I do
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Speaker 1: about the information once they get it? Oh, Karen, you're
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Speaker 1: so smart, you know what? You just hit the nail
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Speaker 1: on the head. Because when we decided to do twenty
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Speaker 1: three and me I was reading about it, my daught
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Speaker 1: this is why we did it. My daughter wants to
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Speaker 1: know her ancestry. I said, you're Irish, now go to bed.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know what else to say. That's all I knew.
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Speaker 1: But I knew that there was more in the mix
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Speaker 1: because my mother is deeply olive skinned, with black hair
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Speaker 1: and amazing blue eyes, and I come out with, you know,
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Speaker 1: really really white and hazel eyes and blonde hair, and
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Speaker 1: my dad was ready complexed. And I'm wondering, how does
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Speaker 1: all this mix together when we're basically mutts. But that aside, Karen,
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Speaker 1: start what you said. When I started thinking about taking
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Speaker 1: doing twenty three in me and the spit Party, I
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Speaker 1: think either Stacy or Elisa said, spit party. I did
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Speaker 1: it too. I said, sure, I want to know all
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Speaker 1: my health information. I want to know everything. But when
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Speaker 1: I got the report, I had to tell you. I
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Speaker 1: did have a tiny hesitation when I clicked on I
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Speaker 1: clicked on health. It's really easy to read. Everybody. You
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Speaker 1: get it in your email or wherever you want it sent,
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Speaker 1: and don't ruin it you for or you Jackie, because guys,
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Speaker 1: Jackie is our executive producer on crime stories. So Lucy
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Speaker 1: has always wanted her ancestry. And I'm going to print
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Speaker 1: it all out and make it like a college diploma
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Speaker 1: looking thing and wrap it in a ribbon. And that's
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Speaker 1: going to be one of her Christmas gifts. Okay, not
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Speaker 1: from Santa, but from me. And so don't tell her
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Speaker 1: anything we're talking about, especially you care and start got it.
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Speaker 1: So I was a little bit afraid when I just
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Speaker 1: a tiny bit, I had a pause. So let me
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Speaker 1: go back to you. Stacy Detwiler, joining US Medical Affairs Manager,
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Speaker 1: what type of health information can I learn from twenty
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Speaker 1: three and me? Yeah, so the helpless such a service.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of different healthcare points in there, and
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Speaker 1: the big ones that we think about are the ones
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Speaker 1: that why you information about your own likelihood or chances
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Speaker 1: for development like type two diabetes. So this is using
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Speaker 1: your own genetic information. There's also the more general wellness one.
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Speaker 1: So a big one that I think about is likelihoops
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Speaker 1: of being, lack of collering. But there's also reports that
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Speaker 1: can provide information about there. Do you have a theory
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Speaker 1: a genetic scary that you might pass on your future
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Speaker 1: children that could impact them. It's also too so as
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Speaker 1: being a genetic health I always think about the family aspect.
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Speaker 1: There's a little bit for you, there's a little bit
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Speaker 1: potentially for family members as well. There's a lot of
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Speaker 1: different information that you can get to miss. There's even
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Speaker 1: the twenty fairy plus membership that even opens that up
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Speaker 1: more already the additional insights, So there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: different health information that you learn about. It's not diagnostics,
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Speaker 1: but it can ultimately lead you into the past. Is
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Speaker 1: talking to your healthcare provider being a potential light ting
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Speaker 1: diagnosis or a lot of these healthy life style its
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Speaker 1: prevention is that I can really from those these actuals
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Speaker 1: that you can take every day to help you live
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Speaker 1: a longer, happier, healthy life. Well, I gotta tell you,
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Speaker 1: I learned a lot. I learned that I have a
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Speaker 1: higher risk of getting ciliac disease. Now, can somebody tell
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Speaker 1: me what that is? Exactly? What is that, doctor dupree?
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Speaker 1: Ciliac disease. That's basically a sensitivity to gluten, which is
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Speaker 1: found in flour and weeds and things like that. Oh right,
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Speaker 1: you're not telling me to cut out carbs, are you?
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Speaker 1: Because I don't want to hear that, I'm not telling you. Well,
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Speaker 1: I'm saying it might be a good idea. It's a
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Speaker 1: slightly higher risk. It is not high risk. Slightly higher exactly.
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Speaker 1: And I also love propensity. It doesn't mean that it's
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Speaker 1: going to happen. You had a propensity for that. Also,
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Speaker 1: increased likelihood of type two diabetes UM. Explain what that means,
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Speaker 1: doctor dupris. But type two diabetes UM means that you
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Speaker 1: usually acquire diabetes later in life. It is. It can
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Speaker 1: be controlled by medication. It can also be controlled by
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Speaker 1: nothing more than diet and exercise. If it hasn't progressed
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Speaker 1: you far, it may require medicine such as pills, and
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Speaker 1: it may actually transensual independence. It's usually found in older adults.
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Speaker 1: But again you're saying that can be prevented. It can
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Speaker 1: be with diet and exercise. It can be you can
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Speaker 1: actually change your diagnosis basically of diabetes sometimes if it
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Speaker 1: hasn't progressed you far, and if you're on a very
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Speaker 1: healthy diet and exercise. You know what else is interesting?
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Speaker 1: Alisa Lehman joining me senior manager Product Science at twenty three.
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Speaker 1: In me, everything was dead on it's My results were
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Speaker 1: higher odds of hazel eyes, which I have afraid likely
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Speaker 1: to be afraid of heights. I am not afraid of heights.
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Speaker 1: My father, however, hated hights. Hey did Hyson. I will
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Speaker 1: tell you after hiking a lot Alisa all over that
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Speaker 1: when I get to the top of a let's say mountain,
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Speaker 1: I finally get to the top of it, I'm not
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Speaker 1: afraid from the waist up, but from the waist down,
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Speaker 1: my legs seem to tremble. I can always feel it,
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Speaker 1: Like when we went to the top of a summit
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Speaker 1: at Grand Canon. I looked down, I was talking about
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Speaker 1: how beautiful it was and trying to take pictures, but
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Speaker 1: my legs were shaking. What does that mean? I guess
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Speaker 1: that would be the fear of high. Maybe a little
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Speaker 1: part of you still still carries that. I think. What's
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Speaker 1: you know really interesting about you know, all the information
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Speaker 1: that you can get with twenty three is you see,
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Speaker 1: like how many things in your life. Genets may have
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Speaker 1: a little roll in, right, It may nudge you towards
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Speaker 1: one thing or another. But as you said, it's not destiny, right,
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Speaker 1: it's a it's a propensity maybe, but you may not
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Speaker 1: be afraid of heights. Maybe you know that beautiful view
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Speaker 1: over homes that fear for you, and you know, like
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Speaker 1: you said, legs up, you are just enjoying that beautiful view,
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Speaker 1: and a propensity for fear of pipes doesn't matter at
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Speaker 1: that point. How in the world, though, do your chromosons
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Speaker 1: Jackie's holding umission. Not afraid of hiights, but am afraid
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Speaker 1: of falling? Okay, thank you, Jackie. How do genetic markers
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Speaker 1: determine if you're afraid of hights? Because my father was
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Speaker 1: deathly afraid of hights. I've never heard that before. Anybody
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Speaker 1: jump in and that knows the answer to that one. Well,
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Speaker 1: I can tell you at twenty three and me what
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Speaker 1: we do is we can look at people who tell
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Speaker 1: us they're afraid of hipes and compare their DNA to
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Speaker 1: people who say they're not afraid of hips, And what
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Speaker 1: we're looking for is differences, like different places in their
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Speaker 1: DNA that's different between those two groups. And so we
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Speaker 1: can say that people who have who are afraid of
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Speaker 1: pipes tend to have this certain genetic marker that people
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Speaker 1: who aren't afraid of heights who don't have. And then
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Speaker 1: we can tell you that that you may have this
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Speaker 1: marker that seems to be associated with being afraid of hape.
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Speaker 1: You know a really interesting thing. I found out my
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Speaker 1: mom has macular degeneration and my mother in law, who
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Speaker 1: believe it or not, Jackie. Ever since David and I
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Speaker 1: met back in college, over all those years, I never
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Speaker 1: had a single cross word with his mother or father. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm really really blessed, just so blessed to have them
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Speaker 1: in my life. His mother had macular degeneration really badly.
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Speaker 1: Now here's what's interesting. I don't show a higher likelihood
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Speaker 1: of getting macular degeneration, but my husband does. I haven't
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Speaker 1: told him yet. He's kind of like shut down after
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Speaker 1: he found out he wasn't Scottish. Okay, so that's a
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Speaker 1: whole other thing. He is so convinced he's Scottish. We
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Speaker 1: even bought him a kilt and made him wear at
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Speaker 1: one time. He's not He's not Scottish. I think that
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Speaker 1: he's questioning the whole oh process because he wants to
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Speaker 1: be Scottish so badly. He loves bagpipes, he loves everything
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Speaker 1: about it. But he found out that he's a mut
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Speaker 1: like me, and and he's got a little bit of
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Speaker 1: French in German and him, and he was just he
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Speaker 1: was upset when he found out our so called thoroughbred
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Speaker 1: docson was part poodle. Okay, he was very disturbed about that.
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Speaker 1: So I haven't been able to talk to him about
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Speaker 1: being part French in part German yet. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: save it for just the right moment. But you know,
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Speaker 1: another thing I found out is that Um, I knew
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Speaker 1: that I was part Jewish, but I didn't know it
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Speaker 1: was Oshkennazzi. Now that is very significant because there are
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Speaker 1: certain health risks associated with being Ashkenazi. Does anybody know
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Speaker 1: the answer to that? What are those health risks? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I can jump in here. Um, there's certain populations, whether
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Speaker 1: genetic variants that occur more common as Navy Jewish is
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Speaker 1: one of those that we see certain genetic conditions much
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Speaker 1: more common in our population. And so one of the
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Speaker 1: ones that we think about is rc are um inheriting
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Speaker 1: breast cancer, kind of hereditary breast cancer and ovariating cancer.
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Speaker 1: This Christ and hold on writing that down. Hereditary breast
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Speaker 1: cancer ovarian can't Yes, the rclan and BRCA two and
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Speaker 1: so individuals of oh yeah, just so you know, ladies,
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Speaker 1: Karen Stark's breast cancer survivor, go ahead and is gews
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Speaker 1: are you oscanazzi? Karen? Yes, Alansman, so you know we're related.
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Speaker 1: Not only did we live down the street from each
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Speaker 1: other in New York, now we find out we're related. Okay,
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Speaker 1: bread cancer, hereditary breast cancer, hereditary of varying cancer, the
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Speaker 1: brocka chain, and I believe tastes like syndrome, isn't that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's the heronic conditions that are autosomal respessive, which is
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Speaker 1: a fancy way of saying that kind of you inheritage,
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Speaker 1: that experience from your culture parents, and that can result
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Speaker 1: from your condition. And we see more of the like
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Speaker 1: in certain population Jewish and so for the BRCA, you're
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Speaker 1: talking about that about one importy. Individuals of Ashy Jewish
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Speaker 1: ancestry are barriers or habits an experience that greatly increases
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Speaker 1: their risk for see certain cancers like breastno variants, more
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Speaker 1: cothee caniatic. You know, I found out so much about
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Speaker 1: my mom too, Guys. I found out that she is
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Speaker 1: partially Nigerian. I found out so much about mom. What
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Speaker 1: what is that you care and start champion? Go ahead? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I wanted to say, like, if if you get those
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Speaker 1: kind of results and they say a potensity to a
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Speaker 1: dish or something about the brothogene, it's really important not
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Speaker 1: to be afraid, but to go and talk to somebody
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Speaker 1: and go over it with your doctor or a genetic
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Speaker 1: counselor like you have on the show. Hey, you know
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Speaker 1: what it did to me when I found out about
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Speaker 1: the higher likelihood of getting type two diabetes. Well, first
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Speaker 1: I immediately ordered Krispy Kremes and I ate my way
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Speaker 1: through them. Then I swore them off. That's trying. I
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Speaker 1: have one last bender before I went on straight and narrow.
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Speaker 1: Want I had those kings. But anyway back to twenty
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Speaker 1: three and me and can we talk about security? Because
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Speaker 1: I found out all sorts of things. In my line
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Speaker 1: of work, when you talk about DNA tests, it's never
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Speaker 1: a good thing. Okay, you know it's as related as
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Speaker 1: I'm crime. But with twenty three and me you can
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Speaker 1: now explain this correct. Actually, Stacy Detwiler and Alisa Lehman,
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Speaker 1: you can actually have all of your results destroyed after
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Speaker 1: you get them if you don't want them kept on file.
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Speaker 1: They're destroyed. They're gone, like turning off the TV. It's over.
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Speaker 1: It's gone. You can have it not shared with the
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Speaker 1: public or shared with the public if you want. You
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Speaker 1: can have limited parts of it shared with the public,
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Speaker 1: or none of it shared with the public. It is
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Speaker 1: all of that, right, Alisa and or Stacy, Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 1: And I encourage everyone to check out twenty three and
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Speaker 1: me dot com slash privacy because I think you're right
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Speaker 1: that a lot of people think about the privacy and
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Speaker 1: the security concerns about getting this information. And we want
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Speaker 1: people to make an informed choice before they decide to
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Speaker 1: do test or not, and so we have a lot
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Speaker 1: of information about what is what we do to protect
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Speaker 1: your information. So yes, you can have your sample destroyed,
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Speaker 1: your DNA sample that you provide, you can completely delete
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Speaker 1: all your information. After you get it, you can download
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Speaker 1: all your information. You can choose which reports that you
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Speaker 1: want to view or not view, and within the health report,
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Speaker 1: you can choose if you want to share information with
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Speaker 1: other people on the twenty three and the site, or
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Speaker 1: with research or not, and you can choose what information
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Speaker 1: is shared. So you have a lot of control over
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Speaker 1: who sees your information, and we want to make sure
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Speaker 1: that people are informed of those choices ahead of time.
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Speaker 1: And our general policy is that all of these things
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Speaker 1: are opting into sharing. So if you don't do anything,
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Speaker 1: we assume you do not want to have your information shared.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's so smart, guys. What she just said. I
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Speaker 1: just immediately compared it to if you're in court and
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Speaker 1: you don't interemploy, the judges automatically and there's a not
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Speaker 1: guilty for you. If you don't check any of these boxes,
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Speaker 1: then they automatically put it on privacy where you don't
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Speaker 1: share it with anyone in any degree. And again you
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Speaker 1: can have the whole thing deleted and your tests destroyed
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Speaker 1: if that's what you want. Hey, you know what another
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Speaker 1: thing I found out This is so crazy that I
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Speaker 1: am wait for it, Jackie, wait for it. More likely
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Speaker 1: to experience hair of photo bleaching, which means that when
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Speaker 1: you go out in the sun, your hair turns a blonder. See.
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Speaker 1: I told you this was natural, and you didn't believe me.
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Speaker 1: You kept saying, who did your hair or who did
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Speaker 1: not do your hair? Hint, hint, hint, go do your hair. See,
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Speaker 1: it's all because of the sun. This is natural, right.
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Speaker 1: How do they know that? Can Elisa or Stacy tell
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Speaker 1: me that? That is very similar to you know, the
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Speaker 1: fear of heights, you know, fear of public speaking, like preferences,
21:46
Speaker 1: like you know, whether you prefer chocolate or vanilla ice cream.
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Speaker 1: All of that is, you know, comparing the DNA as
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Speaker 1: people who who say their hair gets lighter in the
21:55
Speaker 1: sun to people whose hair doesn't get later in the sun,
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Speaker 1: and finding these little places that are different between people
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Speaker 1: who have those different experiences, and then again being able
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Speaker 1: to report back to you fast in your DNA you
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Speaker 1: might be more likely to have that hair photo bleaching. Happen,
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Speaker 1: listen to this, guys. This is what you can learn.
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Speaker 1: Are you prone to type two diabetes? If so, what
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Speaker 1: can you do about it? Macular degeneration? What can David
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Speaker 1: and Lucy do about it. I found out that I
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Speaker 1: was more acutely, I have a more acute odor detection,
22:30
Speaker 1: which is really interesting, Jackie Karen start Do you remember
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Speaker 1: after COVID both John David and I lost a sense
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Speaker 1: of smell? Yes, they did, and I first tested about midnight.
22:42
Speaker 1: We were up watching Elf, the Christmas movie, and I
22:46
Speaker 1: realized I couldn't smell Lucy's cookie shoes making. And we
22:49
Speaker 1: went and stuck our noses in the coffee. Couldn't smell it.
22:53
Speaker 1: We finally the Ultimate Desk got two sharp piece and
22:55
Speaker 1: stuck them up our nostrils. Couldn't smell a thing. And
22:58
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, we've lost our sense of smell. Now
23:01
Speaker 1: listen to this, Karen start Over. A year later, I
23:06
Speaker 1: think my mother smells funny. Then I thought my friend
23:10
Speaker 1: who often comes on our program, Renee Rockwell, smelled funny.
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Speaker 1: Same smell, Jackie. Sadly, I also thought you smelled funny. Finally,
23:18
Speaker 1: finally I thought, how can all these three people smell
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Speaker 1: like bleach? It's me. I went to the doctor and
23:25
Speaker 1: it was a result, a weird result of COVID having
23:30
Speaker 1: lost my smell. And now I find out through twenty
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Speaker 1: three and me I have increased odor detection, more likely
23:39
Speaker 1: to match a musical pitch boy. I whish David had
23:41
Speaker 1: gotten that one. Fear of high, fear of public speaking.
23:47
Speaker 1: And you learn about these things in order to work
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Speaker 1: on them and maybe even correct them. It talks about
23:57
Speaker 1: possibility of chronic kidney disease, the possibility of hyper cholesterol
24:03
Speaker 1: and cholesterol. Amia. What is that? Is that bad cholesterol?
24:10
Speaker 1: What is that? Doctor j pre nicically? Hyper cholesterol Amia?
24:15
Speaker 1: Hyper cholesterol Amia? It is actually you have more what
24:19
Speaker 1: they call bad cholesterol or LDL, the low density, than
24:23
Speaker 1: you do the high density, and therefore you are more
24:25
Speaker 1: susceptible to things like stroke, hardening of the arteries, even
24:29
Speaker 1: heart attack. Well, I dodge that one, So I guess
24:31
Speaker 1: it's okay to order another round of Crispy kremes. Um,
24:34
Speaker 1: let's see, well I'll jump in here shop the end. Yeah.
24:39
Speaker 1: I report specifically on familial hypercholesterol AMIA, which is an inheritance,
24:45
Speaker 1: so wing about people have this, and so you're typically
24:51
Speaker 1: very early on your very high cholesterol. So unfortunately, most
24:54
Speaker 1: pieces of having a high cholesterol are duets and life
25:00
Speaker 1: all um, So you know you can't go take a
25:03
Speaker 1: while there. Well, so that's an x n A on
25:05
Speaker 1: the UNET days. That's a note to the donuts legal
25:10
Speaker 1: legally as I'm throwing you know, I'm not gonna day completely.
25:13
Speaker 1: It's not a total note. Why did okay, why does
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Speaker 1: John David have to take his test again? I think did? Did?
25:22
Speaker 1: Did he screw it up somehow? Does? Why would he
25:25
Speaker 1: have to take his test again? Did he not spit enough?
25:29
Speaker 1: This can happen UM so often. It's because you know,
25:32
Speaker 1: like I said, those cells in your cheeks, that's what
25:34
Speaker 1: we're looking for, UM in your spit. So it could
25:37
Speaker 1: be that either there weren't enough cells for whatever reason,
25:41
Speaker 1: UM that that made it into his first spit sample.
25:44
Speaker 1: It could be that, you know, when we when we
25:47
Speaker 1: extract the DNA out of those cells, that we didn't
25:49
Speaker 1: get enough. Or could be that you know, when we
25:52
Speaker 1: are trying to analyze your DNA, that there was there
25:56
Speaker 1: was an error or problem with that analysis. But hopefully,
25:59
Speaker 1: you know, experience was that you got a second kid
26:02
Speaker 1: was able to give it a second try, and we
26:04
Speaker 1: were successful that on that second on the second try,
26:06
Speaker 1: I'm trying, but you can't eat or drink thirty minutes
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Speaker 1: before and it's really hard to catch John Davy having
26:13
Speaker 1: not just eating something, so I'm trying to pin him
26:16
Speaker 1: down before he can eat or drink in the morning
26:21
Speaker 1: to do his spit. It's a growing boy, yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: Karen Stok. He's six five and a half and he
26:29
Speaker 1: just turned fifteen. You know, I feed him full of
26:32
Speaker 1: vegetables every night. Last night he balked at raw carrot's.
26:36
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but he did. But I'm working
26:39
Speaker 1: on it. I'm working on it. Maybetic component, yes, maybe, guys.
26:44
Speaker 1: It's also very easy to view online. I don't know
26:47
Speaker 1: how it's gonna be to printing off. And I make
26:49
Speaker 1: Lucy's Christmas scroll, but that's not all I'm giving her.
26:55
Speaker 1: I'm giving her some other things too, and of course
26:56
Speaker 1: Santa's coming. You can delete your account, discard your sample.
27:01
Speaker 1: No one can access your information if that's the way
27:03
Speaker 1: you want it. I'm really happy that I took the test.
27:10
Speaker 1: I'm really happy that I will be able to answer
27:13
Speaker 1: some of Lucy's questions. She's Brettish, she gets some Scandinavian
27:17
Speaker 1: from her father. She gets a lot of Irish from me.
27:22
Speaker 1: She and I'm assuming since they're twins, John David, they're
27:25
Speaker 1: both going to have oshke Nazi jeans within them. Of
27:29
Speaker 1: course that opens up to a lot of health issues
27:32
Speaker 1: we're going to look into. But now I know, and
27:35
Speaker 1: now I can do something about it for them. I'm
27:41
Speaker 1: just really glad it came into my wife. Hey, let's
27:46
Speaker 1: do round robin. Final thoughts, Doctor Michelle Dufrey. I think
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Speaker 1: this is a wonderful You can actually change your lifestyle
27:53
Speaker 1: based on the information that you know and have a
27:55
Speaker 1: better life. I health your life. This is great, you
27:58
Speaker 1: know it really is it great to be talking about
28:01
Speaker 1: genetic markers when it's not connected to a crime. Okay,
28:04
Speaker 1: Karen start and jump in. I just think that. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I did it, and there was nothing that was frightening.
28:11
Speaker 1: I felt like if I needed to, I would certainly
28:14
Speaker 1: consult with the doctor or a genetic council. But there
28:18
Speaker 1: was a lot of things. There were things that I
28:20
Speaker 1: found that that were fun, like the chocolate or the vanilla,
28:24
Speaker 1: because my whole family likes vanilla and people are like, what,
28:28
Speaker 1: no chocolate. It was really a lot of fun to
28:31
Speaker 1: get that intimation. What about it? Elisa Lehman joining me
28:35
Speaker 1: PhD seeing you manage your product science at twenty three
28:38
Speaker 1: and me. I mean, I think it's great to hear
28:41
Speaker 1: the good experiences that people are having, and it's exactly
28:44
Speaker 1: what we want as you know, a starting point start
28:46
Speaker 1: your journey, either with your ancestry or with your health.
28:49
Speaker 1: You know, take this and make good choices going forward.
28:52
Speaker 1: And to Stacy while or maybe this is too at
28:55
Speaker 1: least I'm not sure who would feel this. But we
28:57
Speaker 1: almost didn't do it, and I'll tell you why. When
29:00
Speaker 1: I said, hey, twins, you want to do twenty three
29:01
Speaker 1: and me I told him when it was John Davis
29:04
Speaker 1: said no, Mom, because I don't want my great great
29:07
Speaker 1: grandson to be busted on a felony because I gave
29:10
Speaker 1: a DNA sample. And I almost said where did you
29:14
Speaker 1: hear that? And then of course I need where he
29:16
Speaker 1: heard it from me? Okay talking about it ancestral family trees,
29:21
Speaker 1: and I just want to point out to Allay my
29:24
Speaker 1: son John David's fears twenty three in me has never
29:26
Speaker 1: once handed over information to law enforcement. And again they
29:31
Speaker 1: give you the option if you want your test destroyed,
29:35
Speaker 1: it's destroyed when you say do it. Stacy Dettweiler final thoughts.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think our missions with people to access
29:43
Speaker 1: understand and benefit from this information, and it's so great
29:46
Speaker 1: to hear that. It seems like we've done that. We
29:50
Speaker 1: are all about his heart, right. This is your information,
29:53
Speaker 1: you have access to learn so much from it and
29:57
Speaker 1: entire you to me the positions that are going to
29:59
Speaker 1: lead to that longer, to healthier life what we want.
30:03
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you to twenty three
30:05
Speaker 1: and me Um for all the questions you've answered, and
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Speaker 1: I will let you know how Lucy responds on Christmas morning.
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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, goodbye friends,