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S5 #4 Bachelor Couples and Annual Sass-holders · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with our radio. You know it's weird. Actually, every time
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Speaker 1: I hear the inserts or a podcast, I get a
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Speaker 1: little height. I know, right, I'm pretty hype too. I
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Speaker 1: think it's actually a very important aspect of a podcast
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Speaker 1: to have a little theme at the beginning that gets
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Speaker 1: you really excited. I get really excited when I hear
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Speaker 1: Krystal Leah's start theme. It really excited. I'm like, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna go in for We're gonna do it. He's
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Speaker 1: a he's a comedian. He's a comedian. He's the best
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Speaker 1: podcast ever, I mean, well besides ours. Of course. It
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Speaker 1: brings me back to high school when it was Friday
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Speaker 1: night light, the little chilly out what the fall weather
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Speaker 1: was hitting, and the eye of the tiger would come
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Speaker 1: over the stadium and I'd run out ready for the game.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of how I feel now for the almost
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Speaker 1: famous podcast. Everybody out there listening, actually, and I want
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Speaker 1: to tell you, hello, we've got a very special podcast
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Speaker 1: for you. One that I was I'm kind of looking
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Speaker 1: at what we're gonna talk about, and it's us kind
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Speaker 1: of just covering up a bunch of mistakes that we've
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Speaker 1: made last week by by not talking about some couples. Ben,
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Speaker 1: why do you have to keep everything so on point?
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Speaker 1: Because of course you asked that you talk about how
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Speaker 1: you're running out of the locker room, and now I'm like,
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Speaker 1: what would be your hit, your batting song if you
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Speaker 1: were a baseball player today? You move everything so along quickly,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait, I had a great question. Uh, actually,
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Speaker 1: that's why we love you. If if I had a
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Speaker 1: song today to Tennessee Whiskey by Chris Stapleton, mine would
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Speaker 1: be long Live by Taylor Swift. Really, I'm not surprised
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Speaker 1: it's something by Taylor, But you don't even know. Oh,
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Speaker 1: it's such an epic Friday night light song. I I
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Speaker 1: really don't. I'm not surprised that I don't. That's just
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Speaker 1: the beauty of having you as my co host. You
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Speaker 1: teach me so many things in life that I never
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Speaker 1: really thought I ever wanted to learn. And I'm still
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not really sure I want to learn them. Well,
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Speaker 1: something I do have to learn, And I hope you've
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Speaker 1: educated yourself because maybe I'm a bad host by saying
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Speaker 1: that I didn't exactly dive deep into this controversy this week. However,
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Speaker 1: the headlines were quite interesting. Amanda and Robbie, Uh, they
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Speaker 1: broke up nine months ago and they're still feuding. It
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Speaker 1: has something to do with a Disneyland annual pass. I
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Speaker 1: believe that Amanda might have tweeted something saying that the
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Speaker 1: next of hers had emailed her because the credit card
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Speaker 1: that was attached to like automatically renewing the past each year,
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Speaker 1: which I guess she bought for him back and over
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Speaker 1: the summer had expired. She had changed credit cards or something,
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Speaker 1: so I wasn't automatically renewing, and he seemed to be
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Speaker 1: assuming that he would get his season pass just automatically
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Speaker 1: through his ex is uh financials. And then she ended
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Speaker 1: up exposing emails, and now I'm all lost. All I
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Speaker 1: know is that I think he expected to get a
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Speaker 1: free Disney passes year. I've never had amy, and actually
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Speaker 1: I've never had anybody care about me enough to buy
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Speaker 1: me a seven pass to Disney. That that is a
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Speaker 1: huge purpose. First, that is there only together for a
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Speaker 1: few months, and they're making like buying each other passive
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Speaker 1: Disney Amy. You'll know, of course, remember there was some
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Speaker 1: car he bought a car. What were they thinking? They
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Speaker 1: were dating for not only two for two months, and
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Speaker 1: then they were buying things for each other like that.
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Speaker 1: I will give you, guys the play by play and
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Speaker 1: then you discuss and take your side. Okay, First of all,
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Speaker 1: I'm trying not to have too much judgment, But why
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Speaker 1: were they having this fight publicly? Like, can't you just
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Speaker 1: email each other or Papa Tech? Well, I guess because
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Speaker 1: she got an email that infuriated her so much. Correct,
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Speaker 1: But then he's got his old side, which was, hey,
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Speaker 1: I got a note saying they were going to take
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Speaker 1: you to collections. So I was trying to collection. So
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Speaker 1: collections is when you don't pay a bill like Disneyland
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Speaker 1: or whoever can take you to collections at collect Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know why because I've always paid my bills. But
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Speaker 1: that's right, Actually, that's right. I've had all my automatic
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Speaker 1: deductions in line. So I'm okay. First of all, the
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Speaker 1: fact that it's public, I hate. It's just so stupid,
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Speaker 1: But I'm okay with his response saying, wait, I tried
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Speaker 1: to email you because you're going to go to collections,
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Speaker 1: so I wanted you to know to pay your bill.
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Speaker 1: But then here's how he ruins isn't the entire goodwill?
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Speaker 1: Here's my standpoint. Why they're fighting publicly? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I actually bet if you asked both of them right now,
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Speaker 1: are you glad that you left this you get like public?
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Speaker 1: I bet they would both say no, this was ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: But here, okay, And I'm on his side when it
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Speaker 1: comes to Hey, I'm just caring about you. Your car
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Speaker 1: looks like something's messed up with it. Understand what you're saying. Amy,
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Speaker 1: I'm on his side. I get that. But he ruined
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Speaker 1: it for me. He ruined it by the way he
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Speaker 1: he He ended the email and something that is completely vulgar, disrespectful,
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Speaker 1: could never be used against anybody ever. He ends the
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Speaker 1: email by think, oh, by the way, nice news. Who
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Speaker 1: yet he put on his nose? No, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 1: who is he? Who is he? That? Okay, Okay, calm
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Speaker 1: downs takes because this is a podcast and people need
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Speaker 1: to like be able to hear us. Um, here's my question,
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Speaker 1: because this was even discussed amongst my my guy friends
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Speaker 1: who are not backed their fans. They've they even watched
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Speaker 1: my season, but they solved this you on Twitter. Um,
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Speaker 1: and they are researching looking up. They asked me about it,
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Speaker 1: they called me. We all were talking about two nights
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Speaker 1: a good at dinner and and they all said, like
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Speaker 1: is this something? Like how is he not How is
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Speaker 1: Robbie not getting more tracks for this? Like if I
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Speaker 1: said that, if and I never would and I would
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Speaker 1: never even think about saying it, But like, how did
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Speaker 1: this this pass without anybody kind of standing up and saying, Robbie,
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Speaker 1: that is completely incorrect. Like, I don't care if you've
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Speaker 1: had the worst breakups. I don't care if you hate it,
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Speaker 1: hate this woman, I don't care if she did something
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Speaker 1: to hurt you, Like, don't criticize a woman's look on
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Speaker 1: an email that you're claiming was you being nice? Um? Yeah, right?
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Speaker 1: Areas getting all that crap the other week for the
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Speaker 1: fake pregnancy, but he's not getting much heat for this
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Speaker 1: squird to me, So this isn't normal, right, Like my
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Speaker 1: guy friends are great guys. A lot of them are
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Speaker 1: not all They've made the mistakes in their lives like
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Speaker 1: we all have, but like, for the most part, these
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Speaker 1: are really good guy and we could not comprehend how
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Speaker 1: a man would say this to an X like unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: And then publicly it's like it gets worse. It's like
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Speaker 1: it's so crass and vulgar and inappropriate and uncalled for
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Speaker 1: and every word I can think of, and then he's
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Speaker 1: not bright enough to not put that into writing and
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Speaker 1: publicly like what so he So, yeah, she brought it
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Speaker 1: to Twitter because she was like, wow, did she maybe
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Speaker 1: overlook the fact that he was trying to help because
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Speaker 1: of the collections comment or did she just do it?
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Speaker 1: And then he got so fired up that she would
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Speaker 1: refer to an x that was pretty obviously him, that
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Speaker 1: he decided to also take it to Twitter. And then
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Speaker 1: what did he say in the tweets to retaliate besides
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Speaker 1: the nice part? So so here's the yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: so here's what happened to. When I first saw her tweet,
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Speaker 1: I did do a tweet original tweet that she tweeted.
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Speaker 1: I had no clue she was talking about Robbie. I thought,
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Speaker 1: actually he was probably talking about her act husband and
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Speaker 1: who was a part of like they got to pass
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Speaker 1: together because he was taking the kids and she was
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Speaker 1: taking two kids. And so it's just worse. See, I
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Speaker 1: would have could have thought it was Josh Murray. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so we didn't know that now with Amanda wrong for
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Speaker 1: her reaction towards Robbie. Robbie, Yeah, she should not have been.
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Speaker 1: He was trying to do something nice, at least that's
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Speaker 1: what he's claiming, and so she should not have jumped
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Speaker 1: on him like she did. But but maybe with the
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Speaker 1: ending nice, it's it's worthy of actually going off on.
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Speaker 1: So I have a question, Ben, are you sure that
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Speaker 1: he wrote that in the original email? I don't. I
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Speaker 1: actually I don't. Now you're making me question myself. So
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Speaker 1: you guys talk, you guys talking. I'll look it up.
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Speaker 1: But the the the point here is too and we
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Speaker 1: have to remember this with every relationship that we're that
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Speaker 1: we ever care about. This is a big story. It's
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Speaker 1: not uncommon for excess to be mean to each other.
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Speaker 1: That makes sense, it's not. It is very uncommon for
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Speaker 1: it to be public. But we don't know the backstory, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe this is a theme of convert of
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Speaker 1: communication between them. Maybe maybe they aren't very nice to
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Speaker 1: each other typically. Um we so, so when Robbie did
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Speaker 1: in the email, maybe Amanda just assumed that was coming
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Speaker 1: from that place, and maybe Robbie was assuming that Amanda
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Speaker 1: was going to jump on him for anything he did.
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Speaker 1: We don't know that, we don't have the back story here,
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Speaker 1: But what I do know is that I don't care
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Speaker 1: who your act is. I don't care what they's done
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Speaker 1: to you. There's no benefit do you personally to continue
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Speaker 1: to keep any type of anger, resentment, or unforgiveness there.
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Speaker 1: That's just completely inappropriate. And then to kind of make
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Speaker 1: this public like they did. It's just weird to me altogether.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure they had said the same thing. I
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Speaker 1: would have a hard time believing either of them would
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Speaker 1: be happy that this is now a public fute. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's pretty ridiculous. Can I also call out something that's
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Speaker 1: ridiculous about Robbie now that we're on this. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: like Rock I just want to say that, so one
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Speaker 1: of us is defending him. I like him. He's cool,
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Speaker 1: but he always gets himself into hot water. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
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Speaker 1: he has his Instagram bio like his pick, like you know,
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Speaker 1: his Instagram pick, the little circle picture. Um, he has
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Speaker 1: an extra ring around it. And you may wonder why
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Speaker 1: the ring is to symbolize that he has an instant
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Speaker 1: story up. But he has two rings around his and
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Speaker 1: the reason is that way, it looks like he always
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Speaker 1: has an instant of fresh, instant story up so that
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Speaker 1: he gets as many views on his insant story as possible,
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Speaker 1: so as people looking at his instant stories over and
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Speaker 1: over again. I love that makes sense to two circles around. Mind,
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Speaker 1: you understand what I'm referring to. Yeah, I mean it is.
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Speaker 1: It is crafty. I will say that it is crafty.
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Speaker 1: But that why people are always like, oh, new story,
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Speaker 1: new story, even if it isn't a new story. So
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Speaker 1: interesting right, Well, he's giving us new stories for this
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Speaker 1: week's podcast. I think this is one of one that
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Speaker 1: is one of the most interesting stories of the off season. Uh,
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Speaker 1: don't fight publicly. Uh, it's it's not worth it for anybody. Um.
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Speaker 1: And we also have to publicly announced as a podcast
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Speaker 1: that we're you know, we think we're experts at this
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Speaker 1: whole bachelor thing, but last week we found us that
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Speaker 1: we are not out there. That we're gonna have on
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Speaker 1: the phone today. We're so excited about that. We actually
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Speaker 1: and in all honesty, uh, either forgot about or we
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Speaker 1: just got two carried away in the breakups that we
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Speaker 1: we didn't even stop for a second. Stay. Is there
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Speaker 1: any other couples out there today on the podcast. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna have Derek because Derek and Taylor are still together
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Speaker 1: and doing very well, so we're gonna talk to him,
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Speaker 1: getna cast up on their relationship. There's also one other
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Speaker 1: couple that Ashley and I had no idea came from
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Speaker 1: the Bachelor World and we amy We've tried to track
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Speaker 1: them down. Do we have them on the podcast today?
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Speaker 1: So no, not yet. It's Holly and Blake and they're
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Speaker 1: actually married. And I have been facebooking her, texting everybody
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Speaker 1: from her season saying who has her number? Like hitting
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Speaker 1: Conto act on her website and trying and trying, and
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep trying. I will find her, but I
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Speaker 1: haven't yet. Well, guys, that just explains why we don't
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Speaker 1: even know that they're married, because they're very private. We
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Speaker 1: did forget one other couple who will be on next week,
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Speaker 1: I hope, and that is Peyton and Chris Lamb did
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Speaker 1: who are they? Who in the heck are you? So
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Speaker 1: they go way back in time and they were not
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Speaker 1: on the same season. They met on like Bachelor Pad
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Speaker 1: or somehow they met on one of those cruises I
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Speaker 1: don't know, and they got married and now they do
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Speaker 1: shows on h G TV. No, they're like remodelers, landscapers.
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Speaker 1: They will come on soon, so probably next week. Wow,
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Speaker 1: all these hidden couples awesome. I Uh, Chris Landon actually
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Speaker 1: reached out to me a couple of times. Uh here
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Speaker 1: as since the Bachelor, and it would just cheer some
12:46
Speaker 1: really good advice and information of me. So I I
12:49
Speaker 1: don't know that know him personally. I didn't realize that
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Speaker 1: he had met somebody from the franchise, but he has
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Speaker 1: reached out. I want to know. Ashley and A Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: you are the back. Their experts on this podcast definitely
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Speaker 1: more of an encyclopedia than I am. Okay, how did
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Speaker 1: we miss and how have we never heard of this
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Speaker 1: secret couple that is married from the frantise? Like, how
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Speaker 1: did this beyond us? Apparently there's very private. I mean,
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Speaker 1: she's not responding to any calls in text. I think
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Speaker 1: they're from yesteryear, do you know what I mean? So
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Speaker 1: they sort of dropped off the face more. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: she would be happy to come on. I mean, I'm
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Speaker 1: speaking for her, but it's just hard to track her down.
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Speaker 1: But how do we not even know they're together. Like,
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Speaker 1: that's my question is how did we miss them as
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Speaker 1: a couple, Because even when it was brought to our
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Speaker 1: attention that we missed them being together, none of us
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Speaker 1: even knew about how did that happen? I can fuzzily
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Speaker 1: remember them. Um, they were back in the Jake Pavelka
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Speaker 1: type era. Yeah, but that's not only one generation below us.
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Speaker 1: Like the last article I can find written on them
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Speaker 1: was from two thousand eleven. Okay, Okay, that's that's a
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Speaker 1: bit now a Now, Um, well I want to get
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Speaker 1: to Drek and Taylor. We don't have Taylor on today. Well,
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Speaker 1: Derek's going into a meeting, so now we're trying to
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Speaker 1: track down Taylor. Oh, as of last week, we did
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Speaker 1: speak very openly about the breakup and bastination. You know. Actually,
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Speaker 1: now this is the off season press. We're all across
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Speaker 1: the boarder now, actually, uh, can you just give our
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Speaker 1: listeners a little bit about what your kind of bachelor
14:20
Speaker 1: off season looks like today? Like, what exactly does your
14:23
Speaker 1: week consystem? This week is a little bit lighter? Um,
14:27
Speaker 1: I have this today, I already prerecorded. I don't get
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Speaker 1: a podcast for this week. I am going to a
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Speaker 1: Scandal event for the finale on Thursday that I'm super
14:37
Speaker 1: stoked about because it's one of my favorite shows. I
14:39
Speaker 1: don't think it's been that great this seat this season,
14:42
Speaker 1: but in the past I've just been enthralled. And I
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Speaker 1: have such a daddy crush. Oh yes, the epitome of
14:50
Speaker 1: a daddy crush on Tony Goldwin, who plays the former president. Now.
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Speaker 1: But last week was intense. Last week I recorded too,
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Speaker 1: I don't get a podcast. I did a thing called Swapped.
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Speaker 1: It's a new series on Clever TV where I swapped
15:04
Speaker 1: lives with another guy, an actor. So I had to
15:06
Speaker 1: like do an audition tape. I had to go to
15:09
Speaker 1: ju jitsu and just like live his life. And I
15:12
Speaker 1: don't like jusits to I'll tell you that you have
15:15
Speaker 1: like a stranger. You have a stranger's feet in your face.
15:21
Speaker 1: You're like holding onto their sweaty body and you don't
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Speaker 1: know them. I don't like it. It's too invasive. But
15:27
Speaker 1: they said that that's they said. They said that there's
15:31
Speaker 1: something to that, like being in somebody that you're not
15:35
Speaker 1: you're not familiar with, um personal space bubble, like it's
15:39
Speaker 1: good for you on some level. Uh yeah, So I
15:42
Speaker 1: had that, and then I also had actually a photo
15:45
Speaker 1: shoot with that bid fund for the Springboks and the
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Speaker 1: Summer Box. So that was my week. Actually, you're bringing
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Speaker 1: up some of the podcast. I want to take a
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Speaker 1: second here. We're just talking about Amanda and Robbie. Amanda
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Speaker 1: will actually co hosting help I Second Dating fifth week
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Speaker 1: with Dean and Jared. Uh So, I'm gonna say I
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Speaker 1: think this is a good topic for Dean and Jared
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Speaker 1: to discuss with Amanda on the podcast. Is what is
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Speaker 1: it like to have a public feud with an x UM.
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Speaker 1: I want to hear her opinion. I want to hear
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Speaker 1: her thoughts, and I also want to hear kind of
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Speaker 1: some more detail about what exactly happened. You know, from
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Speaker 1: what I know, Amanda is typically an open book. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure she's not going to uh. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: share everything, but but possibly get a little um info
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Speaker 1: on what exactly is happening between her and Robbie. UM. Actually,
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Speaker 1: you asked what I'm up to these days. I'm actually
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Speaker 1: sitting here right now at a double tree in Columbia, Missouri,
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Speaker 1: overlooking uh the Missouri camp University campus. I'm I'm here
16:44
Speaker 1: to uh speak in an event UH for MISSOO for Malawi.
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Speaker 1: And what we're doing tonight is we're trying to raise
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Speaker 1: enough money to build a secondary school in the poorest
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Speaker 1: country in the world, which is Malawi. And so I'm
16:58
Speaker 1: speaking here on behalf of Generous. Generous Coffee is partnering
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Speaker 1: with this organization trying to make this happen. And so
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Speaker 1: I'm at a Double Tree right now, just getting ready
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Speaker 1: to I love Double Tree. Did you get your chocolate
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Speaker 1: chip cookies? I didn't. I had to run up here
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Speaker 1: and get ready for this event because as soon as
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Speaker 1: this podcast is over, I am springing across campus um
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Speaker 1: to UH to the theater and I'm gonna do a
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Speaker 1: nice little speech on what it means to be socially
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Speaker 1: responsible in business. That's amazing. Do you know what I'm
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Speaker 1: doing tomorrow at u c l A. I'm talking about
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Speaker 1: sex No way, Yeah, I'm gonna be uh it's sexually.
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Speaker 1: Know anything about that. It's sexually at U c l A.
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Speaker 1: And they wanted to get people who have been open
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Speaker 1: about sex on reality TV. So I'm on that panel.
17:50
Speaker 1: That's interesting. You're gonna say you've gone from I mean,
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Speaker 1: you've really gone from the version of TV tow to
17:57
Speaker 1: set us for export, and I guess think it was
18:00
Speaker 1: like I think it was sex are lack thereof. But
18:03
Speaker 1: it's a whole panel about the topic and I have
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Speaker 1: no idea what I'm going into tomorrow. I will be
18:08
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Speaker 1: day of work with naked skin, but today I did it,
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Speaker 1: So thank you. And thirdly, she loves ben Bitches. It's
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Speaker 1: the best segment of any podcast I listened to currently.
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Speaker 1: Let it out, Ben, you'll find that more people agree
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Speaker 1: than disagree. Keep up the good work and live your
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Speaker 1: best lives. I've been Cassie. Speaking of ben bitches. I
21:28
Speaker 1: have two quick updates and more we do. Ben Bitches.
21:30
Speaker 1: Number one, Ari and Lauren were spotted with the marriage
21:35
Speaker 1: boot camp therapist. I was curious why, so I got
21:40
Speaker 1: Dr V on the phone right now so we can
21:42
Speaker 1: find out why they were spotted with her. Next, I
21:46
Speaker 1: tracked down Holly of Holly and Blake that this is
21:48
Speaker 1: all happened in ten minutes. I don't know. I just
21:50
Speaker 1: have been over here working hard. So right after we
21:53
Speaker 1: talk to Dr V, we can talk to Holly and
21:55
Speaker 1: find out who the heck she is. And then I
21:58
Speaker 1: hope you have time for ben bitches. Okay, maybe we
22:00
Speaker 1: start with that, Ben. Are you ready to bitch right now? Um? Yeah,
22:04
Speaker 1: I can so. Today in today's eight I'm I like
22:09
Speaker 1: to connect I like relationship. I like relationship of friends,
22:12
Speaker 1: I like relationship in romance, but I just like to
22:15
Speaker 1: get to know people. It's fun for me. I don't
22:17
Speaker 1: know what else we're doing here on earth unless we're
22:19
Speaker 1: really investing into each other's stories. But what I've noticed
22:22
Speaker 1: recently is is that people can't get off their phones.
22:25
Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying like an old person complaints
22:27
Speaker 1: like your face in your phone. I'm staying like, literally today,
22:31
Speaker 1: we've we've evolved the place where we can multize tasks
22:35
Speaker 1: like texting and have at the same time, I'm not
22:38
Speaker 1: that talented. I can't I can't do it. And so
22:41
Speaker 1: what I see what I'm trying to talk to somebody now,
22:44
Speaker 1: I'm trying to invest in somebody. I'm trying to tell
22:45
Speaker 1: somebody my my my life story, and they're just to
22:48
Speaker 1: give their phone glancing at it. I see a level
22:50
Speaker 1: of disrespect. I see a level of they don't care
22:54
Speaker 1: that what I'm saying, They're never in the moment anymore.
22:58
Speaker 1: I'm saying today that I'm bitching about technology because I'm
23:01
Speaker 1: sick and tired of it all being consumed by our
23:04
Speaker 1: phones and never being consumed by each other. What happened
23:08
Speaker 1: to the goal good old days, so we could sit
23:10
Speaker 1: down for dinner at night around the table or amongst
23:13
Speaker 1: some friends and share life together. Instead, now we're shing
23:17
Speaker 1: we have to share life together every second of the day.
23:19
Speaker 1: It's exhausting. It's humiliating to be sharing your life story
23:23
Speaker 1: with somebody and have them checking their computer screens or
23:26
Speaker 1: their phones being the whole time. And I'm sick and
23:30
Speaker 1: tired of nobody taking the time to get to know
23:33
Speaker 1: me or letting me take the time to get to
23:35
Speaker 1: know them. I agree, I agree, Ben, it is a problem. Um,
23:42
Speaker 1: you know, you got dinner with friends and they're on
23:44
Speaker 1: their phones. I think that my friends are pretty good
23:47
Speaker 1: about it, though. I think like we keep it in
23:48
Speaker 1: our purse and I usually don't see him when we're
23:51
Speaker 1: like sitting down to dinner. I think the worst time
23:53
Speaker 1: is normally if you're sitting around a family room, then
23:56
Speaker 1: you're not talking to each other. Then you're just all
23:58
Speaker 1: on the couch on your phone. What do you think
24:01
Speaker 1: came up with a T shirt line? I think the
24:03
Speaker 1: new Dinners T shirt for Dinners Threads is going to
24:06
Speaker 1: be keep it in your purse. That's cute with a
24:10
Speaker 1: little with a little picture of a phone we have.
24:14
Speaker 1: We actually have an email here from Susie. She goes, Hi,
24:18
Speaker 1: why not called Ben's bitching benting like venting, that's kind
24:22
Speaker 1: of cuteventing. I think Ben Bitches is just our segment name.
24:27
Speaker 1: It's I literally have a list on my phone now
24:30
Speaker 1: of things that just really bother me, and I started
24:32
Speaker 1: to write it down. Um, I'm really excited each week
24:35
Speaker 1: now to continue to share what really gets me, gets
24:38
Speaker 1: me going. Technology is a big one for me. Um.
24:41
Speaker 1: We we've misplaced our ability to have deep relationships because
24:45
Speaker 1: we're too consumed with what's happening every second of the
24:47
Speaker 1: day or what up fates we're getting. And I get it.
24:49
Speaker 1: It's exciting and for a lot of reasons, social media
24:52
Speaker 1: helps us connect even better than we ever did before.
24:54
Speaker 1: But you know, asked, I really do miss um the
24:58
Speaker 1: ability to look somebody in the eyes then know that
25:00
Speaker 1: I'm going to get an hour and a half of
25:01
Speaker 1: undistracted communication with him. I think that is such a
25:05
Speaker 1: lost are one that we need to get back. Let's
25:07
Speaker 1: get back to simplicity A little bit um that important.
25:11
Speaker 1: If we could do in Ashley butches for like ten
25:13
Speaker 1: minutes to ten minutes, not ten minutes. No, sorry, sorry,
25:16
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to scare you. Uh ten seconds? Bikers,
25:20
Speaker 1: Why you gotta be on the road. You you take
25:23
Speaker 1: up the entire lane and then you have to make
25:26
Speaker 1: all the cars in that lane merge into the other lane,
25:29
Speaker 1: and then you're really causing traffic issues. And it just
25:32
Speaker 1: seems so selfish of me. And they seem so smug
25:35
Speaker 1: on that bike. They're like, yep, the world revolves around me.
25:38
Speaker 1: There you go, that's it. So I knew you were
25:41
Speaker 1: going to take over this segment at some point, too
25:45
Speaker 1: much down your alley. You just to let me have
25:48
Speaker 1: my moment here. Sorry, darn, It's okay. Hey, we have
25:53
Speaker 1: a special guests on. We've got to hear what is
25:56
Speaker 1: going on in the world of dr V. Dr V,
26:00
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you
26:03
Speaker 1: so much for having me and Astley. Hi are you there? Hi,
26:06
Speaker 1: I'm here. Hi great. So UM, I wanted to start
26:09
Speaker 1: out with two things. One, Ben, you were saying in
26:13
Speaker 1: your last UM episode that it's hard doing a podcast
26:17
Speaker 1: because you don't get a lot of feedback. You know,
26:19
Speaker 1: you like, you can't hear the other side of what's
26:22
Speaker 1: on the other side of the wall. So I want
26:23
Speaker 1: to tell you guys, I love your podcast. I think
26:25
Speaker 1: it's so great, and I think you're great together. Thank you.
26:29
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean I'm so happy that you guys are
26:32
Speaker 1: doing this. And the second that I want to tell
26:33
Speaker 1: you is that, um, today is my first day off
26:36
Speaker 1: of coffee. So I'm not I'm not. I know, I'm
26:41
Speaker 1: not at my fascinated best. Do I really right? In perkey, Well,
26:50
Speaker 1: you can only imagine why I had to give up coffee. So, um,
26:54
Speaker 1: I decided to go down that path and I had
26:56
Speaker 1: to let you know, like in the event that I'm
26:59
Speaker 1: not a hundred sent all there, I just wanna you know,
27:01
Speaker 1: you're just wanna excuse. Really, at the end of the day,
27:04
Speaker 1: they say, never like come up with an excuse as
27:06
Speaker 1: to why you're not at the top of your game
27:08
Speaker 1: because people are probably aren't gonna notice. Oh no, let
27:11
Speaker 1: me tell you for me. It's like, that's the expectations slow,
27:15
Speaker 1: that's the expectations slow, and then you can exceed their expectations. Right.
27:19
Speaker 1: So that's the place where I come from, which is
27:21
Speaker 1: just really it's like a logical games. So, um, I'm
27:24
Speaker 1: here I'm ready and uh, what are we talking about today?
27:29
Speaker 1: Dr V? I I just want to start by saying
27:31
Speaker 1: two things. One, I'm upset to hear you're off coffee.
27:34
Speaker 1: I am a coffee guy now for the im generous
27:37
Speaker 1: coffee guys, so that's bad for me. Second, Um, as
27:40
Speaker 1: soon as here's the phone, there's just like this piece
27:44
Speaker 1: that came over me. I'm sure I actually feeling the
27:45
Speaker 1: same way I can just speak for your voice is
27:48
Speaker 1: very soothing. It's like this like calming, no so for
27:52
Speaker 1: for just because the audience a little background here, Uh,
27:55
Speaker 1: dr V? Who are you and what do you do best? Uh?
27:58
Speaker 1: In the world? You know that is a fair like
28:02
Speaker 1: let me do broad breaststrokes here. So my full name
28:05
Speaker 1: is Dr Venus Nicolino, which is a big mouthful, so
28:09
Speaker 1: we just go by Dr b Um and what I do.
28:13
Speaker 1: I do a lot of different things, um, but what
28:16
Speaker 1: people mainly know me for is celebrity relationships. UM. I
28:20
Speaker 1: had a shown Bravo called Elie Shranks when I came
28:23
Speaker 1: to Marriage boot Camps, uh, Marriage boot Camp Reality Stars
28:29
Speaker 1: and now we have Marriage boot Camp Rat to start
28:31
Speaker 1: family edition. So it's been off of that show. Um,
28:35
Speaker 1: so a Marriage boot Camp is in. It's just so crazy.
28:38
Speaker 1: It's in its uh eleventh season, Um penn is airing
28:44
Speaker 1: and then a season elevel of the airing another couple
28:46
Speaker 1: of months. Um, you've had it, which You've had a
28:49
Speaker 1: ton of batchelor Aluma on that show. We really have.
28:53
Speaker 1: And I have to say, there's some of my favorite
28:56
Speaker 1: couples Jane and Tanner, Sean and Catherine, and uh, did
29:01
Speaker 1: you have j j and Julia? Yeah, yeah we did,
29:05
Speaker 1: We did. We have a lot of Bachelor couples and
29:08
Speaker 1: Bachelor A couples and again they're like my favorite and
29:11
Speaker 1: I think, um because they come on the show. Um right,
29:17
Speaker 1: It's almost like they come on the show and we
29:22
Speaker 1: get to see different parts of them than what we
29:25
Speaker 1: saw on The Bachelor or the Bachelorette. Well, when did
29:28
Speaker 1: you get down to the nitty gritty? We saw pictures
29:31
Speaker 1: of you hanging out with Lauren and Ari recently. What's
29:35
Speaker 1: that all about? Are they going to be on Marriage
29:37
Speaker 1: boot Camp? You know, I'm just gonna say this. I
29:42
Speaker 1: was annoyed that they seemed genuinely happy because I would
29:45
Speaker 1: love to have him RuSHA. I'm just gonna say that.
29:51
Speaker 1: But wait, that being said, do you do you feel
29:53
Speaker 1: like Sean and Katherine or Jade and Tanner weren't genuinely
29:56
Speaker 1: happy when they did the show. Um, I think everyone
30:01
Speaker 1: comes on the show for some kind of reassurance. Um.
30:08
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, do you do a show like
30:13
Speaker 1: that simply because of the money. But two things could
30:16
Speaker 1: be true. You could do the show for the money,
30:19
Speaker 1: but you also could be doing the show to get
30:21
Speaker 1: something out of it. And by the way, what I
30:24
Speaker 1: love about marriage boot Camp is that you cannot avoid
30:29
Speaker 1: getting something out of it. We put our cast members
30:33
Speaker 1: no joke, I am not kidding you, like through the ringer,
30:38
Speaker 1: through a real, real boot camp. Um, and people always
30:42
Speaker 1: get something out of it. So I mean there's multiple truths. Um.
30:47
Speaker 1: So yes, Um, you're probably you're you're you're You're probably right.
30:50
Speaker 1: People do come on the show for money. I think
30:52
Speaker 1: they also come on the show to get something else
30:54
Speaker 1: out of it. So, I mean it doesn't Why were
30:57
Speaker 1: you with ri and Lauren? I mean it didn'er to me.
31:01
Speaker 1: Were you just give them a check up? Do you
31:02
Speaker 1: do private counseling? What was going on? Well? I think that, Um,
31:07
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's one person's miserable X is another's loving,
31:13
Speaker 1: so may it just has to go down that way, right? Um?
31:17
Speaker 1: And Yet what was fascinating about the season is that
31:21
Speaker 1: we never really see that on television. We never really
31:25
Speaker 1: see the transition. Um. And I think that was traumatic
31:32
Speaker 1: not only to the Bachelor fans, but I think it
31:35
Speaker 1: was traumatic to Ari and Lauren as well. Um. Did
31:40
Speaker 1: you do you understand what I'm saying? Like we never
31:42
Speaker 1: liked for example, Well, but we're able to see, um,
31:46
Speaker 1: a couple that's breaking up, um, and then they're with
31:50
Speaker 1: someone else. We never really get to see an actual
31:55
Speaker 1: transition of what that might look like. Can you give
31:58
Speaker 1: us any durt about wedding planning for them? Are they?
32:01
Speaker 1: Are they planning on getting married soon? Yes? Yes, very soon.
32:07
Speaker 1: This premarital counseling you're doing, you know? I I is
32:14
Speaker 1: it called? Is what we call it premarital counseling? Or
32:18
Speaker 1: would it be like guys put on the brakes? You
32:21
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, I don't know if that's
32:23
Speaker 1: like are you are? I think part of being on
32:29
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, Um, because the relationship started in an open forum,
32:36
Speaker 1: the relationship doesn't continue in an open forum. You go
32:40
Speaker 1: behind closed doors right at some point you have to
32:43
Speaker 1: press it. Like the metaphor, you have to press the
32:46
Speaker 1: private button on your Instagram, right, I mean you could
32:49
Speaker 1: open it any time, but you're going to have to
32:51
Speaker 1: press that button. You're going to have to have an
32:55
Speaker 1: intimate relationship without the cameras on you. Yeah. My question
32:59
Speaker 1: is why do you think that they are rushing to
33:02
Speaker 1: get married so quickly? Did they open up to you
33:04
Speaker 1: about this? Um, they genuinely feel They genuinely feel that
33:11
Speaker 1: they are ready for that step and they want that step.
33:14
Speaker 1: It's not a way to improve to the audience that
33:16
Speaker 1: this is really the right situation. I mean, look, everyone
33:21
Speaker 1: has their own opinion about that. I mean, obviously that's
33:24
Speaker 1: that is that yours. Actually do you do you feel
33:27
Speaker 1: that that's why they'd be doing it? Sort of? I
33:30
Speaker 1: think it's kind of ours way of righting the original
33:34
Speaker 1: wrong he made m h um. And do you feel
33:40
Speaker 1: I'm just curious, like, do you feel that it's wrong
33:43
Speaker 1: because of the way that he did it, or do
33:46
Speaker 1: you feel that it's wrong because we got to see
33:49
Speaker 1: the transition of a relationship on television and that's that's
33:53
Speaker 1: normally not what we see. I was just curious. I guess.
33:56
Speaker 1: I don't mean, like I know it was right for
33:59
Speaker 1: his life, but I guess it's a way to prove
34:02
Speaker 1: to the Bachelor audience that he made the right choice
34:05
Speaker 1: and in the end doesn't really matter if he was
34:08
Speaker 1: so villainized, if he is happy with his soul mate
34:12
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. M hm. And we
34:16
Speaker 1: would I'm just trying to get a sense of it.
34:18
Speaker 1: We would villainize him because of the way he people
34:23
Speaker 1: did felize him. I'm saying, I I don't I feel
34:26
Speaker 1: like he's fine, but I feel a lot of people, yes,
34:30
Speaker 1: they're very, very angry about the fact that he proposed
34:33
Speaker 1: to one World boards. We're going up everywhere. I mean,
34:35
Speaker 1: I get I got you. I'm trying to understand in
34:39
Speaker 1: what way did you see this or others see it.
34:41
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to understand others are seeing it as
34:44
Speaker 1: he should never proposed to another girl if he wasn't
34:47
Speaker 1: really certain and then like it was an odd choice
34:51
Speaker 1: to propose to Lauren on after the final rows. M
34:59
Speaker 1: But I do want to move on to another relevant
35:01
Speaker 1: question now that we have an expert here to answer
35:05
Speaker 1: the question. Last week, Ben and I were discussing how
35:09
Speaker 1: long is the suggested minimum to date before getting engaged?
35:14
Speaker 1: And then how long should a couple be engaged before
35:18
Speaker 1: heading down the aisle? Well, I mean that is everyone. Look,
35:22
Speaker 1: I guess success rate wise up. I believe the success
35:28
Speaker 1: rate is three years. I'm not sure. I would have
35:30
Speaker 1: to check on that together. Yes, three years totals together
35:36
Speaker 1: and then engaged for an entire other year or just
35:40
Speaker 1: within that year. Oh, so you're engaged for three years,
35:45
Speaker 1: then you have one year, and then you're married. So
35:48
Speaker 1: you date for three years and then you're engaged in Okay,
35:52
Speaker 1: interesting but that but that can move and change. I
35:56
Speaker 1: mean everybody is so different. Um, So I think people
36:02
Speaker 1: need to do what is best for them, and every
36:05
Speaker 1: relationship is so different, and that's what's so unique about
36:08
Speaker 1: them is that they're so different. You said that your
36:11
Speaker 1: bachelor couples have been your favorite on Marriage boot Camp.
36:14
Speaker 1: I want to know, is there a common denominator you
36:16
Speaker 1: see amongst all of them that you don't necessarily see
36:19
Speaker 1: with other couples not from the franchise. Yes, so, Um,
36:23
Speaker 1: what I see as a common denominator is that, um,
36:28
Speaker 1: the bachelor couples um romance is very set in this
36:36
Speaker 1: patriot dish of bs you the meaning that yes, meaning
36:44
Speaker 1: that absolutely that the romance is set up for you,
36:48
Speaker 1: that everything is set up for the mail, everything is
36:52
Speaker 1: set up for the female, The actual work of the
36:55
Speaker 1: relationship is set up for you. So what ends up
36:59
Speaker 1: happening is that the couples that come on our show,
37:03
Speaker 1: it's breaking down those walls of this nothing's going to
37:07
Speaker 1: be set up for you now. Um, you're actually having
37:10
Speaker 1: to be real and intimate with people. You're not going
37:13
Speaker 1: to be having dinner in an Irish castle. So how
37:16
Speaker 1: do you reconcile? Um? Those two very different ideas of
37:21
Speaker 1: what a romantic relationship is and what an intimate relationship is, Like,
37:25
Speaker 1: how do you reconcile the day to day versus how
37:28
Speaker 1: you meant on a national television show. Um. So that's
37:33
Speaker 1: the through line that I see with every single couple,
37:37
Speaker 1: on top of feeling that they have to manage their image. Um,
37:42
Speaker 1: and that is something UM, anyone can empathize with. You know,
37:47
Speaker 1: you're having to to manage your your your image all
37:50
Speaker 1: day long, and we want to admit that or not.
37:52
Speaker 1: I think the Bachelor couples are in a situation on
37:57
Speaker 1: television where they're managing their image, and so they bring
38:00
Speaker 1: that to their lives and they bring that to the
38:03
Speaker 1: to to my show as well. So having to break
38:06
Speaker 1: down those walls isn't easy. Um. And yet you know
38:10
Speaker 1: there's some of my favorite couples because of those reasons, Um,
38:15
Speaker 1: because they're still relatable, right. And do you see heightened
38:19
Speaker 1: communication between the bachelor couples just because we were the
38:23
Speaker 1: relationships are formed in an environment in which they had
38:26
Speaker 1: to they were almost forced to communicate on very vulnerable
38:30
Speaker 1: topics early on. I see managed communication. Um. You know
38:40
Speaker 1: it's not I understand what you're saying that you're seeing
38:43
Speaker 1: them being able to communicate on an intimate level, and
38:48
Speaker 1: they believe they're communicating on an intimate level. Um, But
38:52
Speaker 1: there's different levels of intimacy. Um. And often what I
38:56
Speaker 1: see in managing their image, they're also managing their vulnerabilities. Um.
39:02
Speaker 1: What they reveal to one another, how they are seeing
39:05
Speaker 1: to one another and as a couple. So um. You know,
39:10
Speaker 1: for example, a lot of the batchlor couples can mean
39:13
Speaker 1: and make these packs of one another. Okay, we're not
39:15
Speaker 1: going to talk about this, and we're not going to
39:17
Speaker 1: talk about that, and that just doesn't work on my show.
39:20
Speaker 1: It doesn't work, um, because the show doesn't allow that.
39:24
Speaker 1: At some point during the process, during the breakdown process,
39:28
Speaker 1: you're going to reveal of things you don't want to
39:29
Speaker 1: talk about, because that's how the show is set up. Um.
39:33
Speaker 1: So while I can understand why you would say, oh uh,
39:38
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're communicating on an intimate level and
39:41
Speaker 1: they're having these different conversations. There's different levels of of
39:45
Speaker 1: of intimacy. So I encourage, um them to go even
39:51
Speaker 1: deeper with one another and not have to manage their
39:54
Speaker 1: vulnerability so much before we let you go. Just to
39:58
Speaker 1: sum up the whole law in an ari meaning, it
40:01
Speaker 1: seems like you are just doing some off camera marriage
40:04
Speaker 1: counseling with them. Yeah, I mean it's the they based Again,
40:11
Speaker 1: they seemed like really happy, um, and I was bummed
40:16
Speaker 1: about that because I would love to have the morrow
40:19
Speaker 1: but you but the counseling is off camera and not
40:23
Speaker 1: produced through ABC or such. The count Yes, so yeah,
40:29
Speaker 1: did they come to you? Did they yet? Testing All right? Well,
40:36
Speaker 1: dr V, thanks for being so informative and giving us
40:39
Speaker 1: the dirt. Well, thanks for having me and again I
40:43
Speaker 1: love you guys to think your podcast great and um,
40:46
Speaker 1: if you need anything of future, just give me a buzz. Well,
40:48
Speaker 1: it's so nice to have a relationship therapists psychologist at hand.
40:52
Speaker 1: Whenever we have a relationship issue arise in the future. Okay,
40:56
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And you guys got a great day.
40:59
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43:04
Speaker 1: Hey Holly, Hi, Hello bachelor lum that I've never met
43:08
Speaker 1: or heard of I know right, Well, Blake and I
43:11
Speaker 1: disappeared after the show, So what happened with you guys? Um,
43:15
Speaker 1: we did the opposite of what everybody else does on
43:17
Speaker 1: the franchise, and um, I actually lived in l A
43:21
Speaker 1: when I was cast for the show, and then after
43:23
Speaker 1: Bachelor Pad, Um, I moved away to South Carolina to
43:26
Speaker 1: get married. And then most people moved to l A
43:29
Speaker 1: and try to do something, but we just not go
43:31
Speaker 1: ahead and kind of hit out from the world. What
43:33
Speaker 1: season of Bachelor Pad were you on the second season?
43:37
Speaker 1: And what season of The Bachelor were you on? What
43:39
Speaker 1: was Blake on? Um? I was on season twelve of
43:44
Speaker 1: The Bachelor? Who was the Bachelor? Um? Matt Grant that
43:48
Speaker 1: nobody remembers? And then Blake was on Ashley A Bear season?
43:55
Speaker 1: No way, Like I watched that season. Yeah, so he was.
44:00
Speaker 1: He was the last one. I go home right before hometown,
44:02
Speaker 1: so I think he left fifth. Well, tell us a
44:05
Speaker 1: little bit about your love story. How did you meet
44:07
Speaker 1: on Bachelor Pad? Had you met beforehand? What was it
44:10
Speaker 1: like when you first saw him? Well, I immediately thought
44:15
Speaker 1: he was attractive. I walked in the door and I
44:17
Speaker 1: killed the producers. I said, you know, what I want.
44:19
Speaker 1: The only thing I want to see when I walk
44:20
Speaker 1: in is just a handsome man. And he when I
44:23
Speaker 1: walked into the house for Bachelor Pad, he was the
44:25
Speaker 1: only guy in there, and I was like, all right,
44:27
Speaker 1: well this worked out well, I'm ready to go UM
44:31
Speaker 1: and so we just got along really well. But I
44:34
Speaker 1: had been in a relationship previously, previously UM to Michael Sagliano,
44:40
Speaker 1: who was on UM. Yes, so we were engaged and
44:43
Speaker 1: we had just called up our engagement and then they
44:46
Speaker 1: threw us both in Bachelor Pad together, which was a
44:48
Speaker 1: little tough. But so how did you meet Michael then UM?
44:53
Speaker 1: Just through the show and you were yes, and then
44:58
Speaker 1: they threw your x fee on and say into the
45:01
Speaker 1: bunch in Bachelor Pad Too, where you then met Blake.
45:05
Speaker 1: Did you leave in a very strong monogamous relationship? Blake
45:10
Speaker 1: and I left the show engaged. So engaged. Yeah, Blake
45:14
Speaker 1: proposed on the finale of Bachelor Pad Too. Do you
45:17
Speaker 1: have a Neil Lane diamond? Yes? I do. How in
45:22
Speaker 1: world do we know about you? I know, Well, it's
45:27
Speaker 1: because we really did like just give it all up
45:31
Speaker 1: and like speak away and just lived their own life. Well,
45:35
Speaker 1: and I know I'm like, we're the only couple from
45:37
Speaker 1: Bachelor Pads, the couple from Bachelor Pad. Yeah. I think
45:42
Speaker 1: that's how kind of best Are in Paradise started, because
45:44
Speaker 1: you know, we got engaged and we fell in love
45:46
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh well this is this could be
45:48
Speaker 1: a thing, and so they wanted more engagements at the end.
45:51
Speaker 1: So I think that's, you know, kind of how that's
45:52
Speaker 1: where in Paradise's off of that. That's amazing. I love this.
45:56
Speaker 1: I love that we can add your name to the
45:58
Speaker 1: list of successful Bachelor couple, right, I know, and I
46:01
Speaker 1: won Bachelor pet so I won double time. Oh my gosh. Yes,
46:05
Speaker 1: you got money out of it too. Yeah. Yes, so
46:09
Speaker 1: you moved to North Carolina. But you guys have an
46:11
Speaker 1: aged a TV show together, right, No, that's a difference. Okay,
46:15
Speaker 1: we live in South Carolina. Um, there's another couple that
46:20
Speaker 1: came out of the show. They live in North Carolina.
46:23
Speaker 1: Another couple. Yes, Um, she I know was on Bachelor
46:29
Speaker 1: Pets one. I think our bachelor. Yeah, that's what I
46:32
Speaker 1: think she was. But then he was just on Ali
46:35
Speaker 1: season and I think they met and got together. But yeah,
46:38
Speaker 1: they do all that stuff in North Carolina and Blake
46:41
Speaker 1: and I just live the simple life of South Carolina.
46:44
Speaker 1: What do you guys do? And do you have any kids? Um?
46:47
Speaker 1: We um? Okay, So Blake is a dentist. I think
46:50
Speaker 1: that's why they wanted him for Ashley A Bear season.
46:53
Speaker 1: He was also dentist. Um. And then I run a
46:57
Speaker 1: princess party company and so I I have a bunch
47:00
Speaker 1: of girls that dressed up as princesses and go out
47:02
Speaker 1: to parties and stuff. And then I also have a
47:04
Speaker 1: spreight gaining company. Um. And then I ended up publishing
47:07
Speaker 1: my children's book right after Bachelor Pets. I travel around
47:09
Speaker 1: and do stuff with that. So every day is different
47:12
Speaker 1: for me. So you have a children's book and you
47:15
Speaker 1: have a princess party company. Do you have children? Okay? So, um,
47:20
Speaker 1: we try, I started trying. I don't. We don't talk
47:22
Speaker 1: about this ever, but um, I will open up to you.
47:26
Speaker 1: Here's a little inside's cute. Um. We started trying as
47:31
Speaker 1: soon as we got married, which was almost six years ago.
47:34
Speaker 1: And then within the last six years. You know, we've
47:36
Speaker 1: done everything to have children. Um, and we can't. So
47:40
Speaker 1: we I mean we literally have tried everything We've gone through.
47:43
Speaker 1: I ya um, couple several times, and right now we
47:47
Speaker 1: just are at a stand still until we figure out
47:50
Speaker 1: what to do. I'm so sorry. It's okay, And I
47:54
Speaker 1: didn't realize that, you know, one and eight women are infertile,
47:57
Speaker 1: and then one was watching all these babies? Yeah what
48:00
Speaker 1: at eight? So I'm just watching all these things hop
48:02
Speaker 1: about babies left and right, and I'm like, what's going on? Well,
48:07
Speaker 1: I have to ask, do you know what already did
48:08
Speaker 1: with Lauren last week for April Fools? Yes? Yeah, So
48:16
Speaker 1: people are very sensitive that and you know more, I
48:22
Speaker 1: do you think? I hate I hate when people joke
48:24
Speaker 1: about that because it is such a sensitive subject for people.
48:28
Speaker 1: And I did see that, and I was I was
48:31
Speaker 1: a little costard. I was like, no way they would
48:33
Speaker 1: do that. That was such like her. I don't know,
48:36
Speaker 1: but was I actually her belly which you just eat
48:39
Speaker 1: a lot, you know? Okay, Yeah, that was pretty insensitive.
48:46
Speaker 1: But I'm not one to get like. I'm not one
48:48
Speaker 1: of those people online that's going to write all this
48:50
Speaker 1: mean thing, you know, all these same things, So I
48:53
Speaker 1: just gonna let it go. But I it did kind
48:55
Speaker 1: of hurt. It stung Sun a little bit. Well, Holly,
48:59
Speaker 1: thank you, for bringing up and I'm so sorry to
49:02
Speaker 1: hear that. Yeah, I know, we just never we never
49:05
Speaker 1: talked about it. And everyone I get asked every day
49:07
Speaker 1: on Instagram like why haven't you had kids yet? Why
49:10
Speaker 1: aren't you having you know, just every single day asking me,
49:13
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, what, if I could, I would,
49:15
Speaker 1: That's going to be exhausting. Really, Yeah, I know. I
49:20
Speaker 1: have a whole album of saved pictures of every time
49:22
Speaker 1: someone asked me when I'm having a child. I kind
49:24
Speaker 1: of want to do a little video to let people
49:26
Speaker 1: know like it's not okay to ask. Well, Holly, thanks
49:31
Speaker 1: for calling, and thank you for letting us in on that. Now,
49:34
Speaker 1: maybe people will second guess before they ask a question
49:38
Speaker 1: like that. Right about it bring I think, but not
49:43
Speaker 1: a lot of people are aware of imfertility because there's
49:46
Speaker 1: just people popping up babies left and right, and the
49:49
Speaker 1: people that are struggling with it just don't talk. And
49:52
Speaker 1: I've been so afraid to talk. And every time I like,
49:55
Speaker 1: just open up a little bit to someone, I feel
49:57
Speaker 1: like God sends something my way, you know, it is
50:00
Speaker 1: just like hey, thanks for opening up, here's a reward.
50:02
Speaker 1: And so I feel like lately I've been wanting to
50:05
Speaker 1: open up more and more, and um, as there we go,
50:09
Speaker 1: I just did. Well, now you have. You've just opened
50:12
Speaker 1: up to a lot of people. So hopefully God will
50:15
Speaker 1: send lots of little things your way. Wonderful. All right, Well,
50:19
Speaker 1: thank you so much, Holly, and say hi to Blake
50:21
Speaker 1: for us, and we will shout you out every time
50:25
Speaker 1: we talk about successful bachelor marriages from now on. Well,
50:28
Speaker 1: I was wondering what was going on because all these
50:30
Speaker 1: people started tagging me on Instagram, taking on my post,
50:34
Speaker 1: and I was like, why are these two getting tagged
50:36
Speaker 1: on all my stuff? And I and you guys must
50:39
Speaker 1: have said, you know, talk about the successful couple. So well,
50:43
Speaker 1: thanks for being a little inspiration for us. Um, we
50:47
Speaker 1: will talk to you soon. All right, you have a
50:49
Speaker 1: great day. Bye bye. If you guys didn't quite realize
50:53
Speaker 1: Ben is no longer on the line, this podcast is mine.
50:56
Speaker 1: I'm taking over. I'm so glad we just got to
50:59
Speaker 1: know Holly little bit and that she was so open
51:01
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51:04
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Speaker 1: emails now. And because Ben's on here are lovely Mark
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52:57
Speaker 1: have the best radio voice. Oh you're so sweet. I'm
53:00
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53:02
Speaker 1: here on the Almost Famous podcast reading this email from Lauren.
53:06
Speaker 1: Hi've been and Ashley. My name is Lauren. To live
53:08
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. My boyfriend of four years currently lives
53:10
Speaker 1: in Menifee, which is in Riverside County, Southern California. We
53:14
Speaker 1: first met we both lived in San Francisco, but for
53:16
Speaker 1: the past year he's moved back to Southern California to
53:18
Speaker 1: be with his family. I'm stuck in San Francisco for
53:20
Speaker 1: the time being because I'm finishing up my degree. We've
53:23
Speaker 1: been making it work with lots of road trips back
53:25
Speaker 1: and forth. Your podcast helps me survive those eight hour drives,
53:28
Speaker 1: but I need help. It feels as if our spark
53:31
Speaker 1: is diminishing, and I'm not sure on what I should
53:33
Speaker 1: do to help us rekindle our love. Do you have
53:35
Speaker 1: any tips that for surviving a long distance relationship, seeing
53:38
Speaker 1: as you might have had experience with this coming off
53:41
Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise? Love you both so much. You inspire
53:44
Speaker 1: me on every road trip warmly Another Lauren Well, I
53:49
Speaker 1: was in a long distance relationship for three months. Um,
53:54
Speaker 1: I faced timed every day. It didn't exactly you know,
53:58
Speaker 1: turn out in the end. So I don't don't think
54:00
Speaker 1: that I'm the person to be giving advice on this.
54:03
Speaker 1: Dirty FaceTime. Uh No, no dirty FaceTime, Amy skot Amy
54:09
Speaker 1: dirty FaceTime. So she might be able to help you
54:12
Speaker 1: FaceTime you send dirty videos, sure, and she totally opened
54:17
Speaker 1: to dirty FaceTime. I've sent a couple like mild picks,
54:22
Speaker 1: like in a sexy bra with like a lot of cleavage.
54:25
Speaker 1: But I think I think sexy picks are normally sexy
54:30
Speaker 1: when there's more to like imagine, like the illusion, not
54:33
Speaker 1: just like all out their nudies. Do you do nudies?
54:36
Speaker 1: She does? But no, faith Mark Mark. Okay, as a man,
54:43
Speaker 1: a married man, and you've been married for like nineteen
54:45
Speaker 1: years wait, sorry, together twenty and I finally encourage my
54:50
Speaker 1: married friends to do it, even if they're not in
54:52
Speaker 1: a long distance relationship. It's like, come on, but wait, okay.
54:55
Speaker 1: At first, I was gonna ask, Mark, do you how
54:57
Speaker 1: much do you love that? Does your I do it?
55:00
Speaker 1: Did you ever do it? Look, I'm all for it.
55:03
Speaker 1: If your couples into it, great. Neither one of us
55:06
Speaker 1: have ever done anything like that, and I don't think
55:08
Speaker 1: we'd be able to pull it off. I think it'd
55:10
Speaker 1: be funny at this point. It depends. Yeah, it would
55:12
Speaker 1: be funny at this point. You're right, twenty years into it.
55:16
Speaker 1: I don't think that sexy pictures and videos can keep
55:19
Speaker 1: the relationship completely alive though, um yeah in my case.
55:27
Speaker 1: And you gotta do what you gotta do. If it's
55:28
Speaker 1: long distance, it's long distance, and you gotta you know,
55:31
Speaker 1: make the best of it. For you guys, I mean,
55:33
Speaker 1: you're together for four years, so I feel like you're
55:35
Speaker 1: pretty solid. I think right now, the only thing is
55:38
Speaker 1: the distance and as long as you get to move
55:41
Speaker 1: and eventually you're just your degree. I mean, you're gonna
55:45
Speaker 1: be fine. Just push you, just push it through. You
55:48
Speaker 1: have an ending to That's actually what Kevin always wanted
55:51
Speaker 1: with us, and was one of the reasons that I
55:53
Speaker 1: was like, this is the point where I need to,
55:55
Speaker 1: you know, put a hold to this, because he kept saying, like,
55:58
Speaker 1: even if you tell me you'll move in a year,
56:01
Speaker 1: or like I get a job and the job doesn't
56:03
Speaker 1: start for a year, that would be fine because I
56:05
Speaker 1: have an end date as to when this long distance
56:08
Speaker 1: will end. And it sounds like your long distance will
56:11
Speaker 1: end when your school's end. There in the same time zone.
56:13
Speaker 1: This she lives, this guy lives in l A. It's
56:16
Speaker 1: like that's a drive. They can meet in the middle,
56:19
Speaker 1: so that means hello, passa robols. Yeah, you guys should
56:23
Speaker 1: do a lot of meeting in the middle. You know.
56:26
Speaker 1: Just listen to Marion Morris, just meet him in the middle.
56:29
Speaker 1: That song is on repeat. I can recommend a wonderful
56:33
Speaker 1: hotel and pass the robots for the years. I mean,
56:36
Speaker 1: three years, three hours each person. But I think, look,
56:40
Speaker 1: I think for all couples. I find a married couples
56:43
Speaker 1: like keep finding this with my friends, they just like
56:47
Speaker 1: let the fun die. And it's like, come on, people,
56:52
Speaker 1: I would, I would well amy you and I can
56:54
Speaker 1: easily say that as like we we haven't been in
56:58
Speaker 1: these like you know, marriage long relationship. I haven't been
57:00
Speaker 1: married for twenty years, but I've been in relationships for
57:03
Speaker 1: many years, and it's like send a little photo, it's fine. Yeah,
57:07
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how it is when
57:09
Speaker 1: the when the magic dies, I can teach you that
57:11
Speaker 1: sounds scary, but bring it back to life and then
57:15
Speaker 1: it doesn't die. I don't think my parents, my parents
57:18
Speaker 1: haven't let it die. My dad textes my sister and
57:20
Speaker 1: I on the daily. Yesterday he sent a bit moji
57:24
Speaker 1: that says, news flash, I love your mother. Like always,
57:27
Speaker 1: just text my sister and I saying I love your
57:30
Speaker 1: Mom's so cute. He still leaves a note on the
57:35
Speaker 1: kitchen table every day before he leaves for work. It's
57:38
Speaker 1: really adorable. How many years for them, um. They have
57:42
Speaker 1: been married for thirty seven and together for forty. They
57:46
Speaker 1: met with my almost twenty. Yeah, so it's pretty What
57:49
Speaker 1: about just a dirty text. It doesn't have to be
57:51
Speaker 1: a photo, Like if you want to just start start light,
57:55
Speaker 1: that's good. Get your toe into the pool a little bit. Yeah, sure. Yeah,
58:00
Speaker 1: you can google it too, if you google tips. But
58:03
Speaker 1: everything's on the internet. But hey, Lauren, I'm thinking, since
58:06
Speaker 1: you guys are in the same state, how about you
58:09
Speaker 1: go to him one week, then he goes to you
58:11
Speaker 1: the next week, and then you meet in the middle
58:13
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Speaker 1: feel this way? Okay? So I thought that there was
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Speaker 1: a really good message in the show. As she just says,
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Speaker 1: the message is that you have to be really aware
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Speaker 1: And there's a whole message on like anti bullying in
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Speaker 1: the show. What I didn't love about it, and it
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Speaker 1: you know, it's the Tony Winner. It is just pretty
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Speaker 1: much everybody's favorite original show on Broadway right now. But
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Speaker 1: what I didn't love about it is that the whole
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Speaker 1: that they could have somehow made it less about lying. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: hoopla that surrounds to Ravin Hanson. Was it a good show,
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Speaker 1: really good with Ben Platt? No, I think everybody keeps
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Speaker 1: very good. But now every time I say that I
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1:03:13
Speaker 1: it's probably because you weren't watching it with Yeah, I've
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Speaker 1: heard such extraordinary things about him and people just love
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Speaker 1: ball and everybody was just freaking out. Okay, so maybe
1:03:25
Speaker 1: that wasn't so guys, don't kill me. Um, I liked it.
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Speaker 1: Probably not going to see it again. See, I'm a
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Speaker 1: big Broadway fan. I saw Hairspray ten times on Broadway.
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Speaker 1: I saw my one of my favorite like lowbrow musicals
1:03:41
Speaker 1: is called Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson. I saw it five
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Speaker 1: times in three months. It was a parody about Andrew
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Speaker 1: I get angry at Hamilton's because Hamilton's is what Bloody
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Speaker 1: Bloody Andrew Jackson was. But somehow was able to find
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Speaker 1: the audience, so that Bloody Bloody really struggled to get. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: closed after four months on Broadway. But it's very Hamilton's
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Speaker 1: like it was. It was a rock musical that just
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Speaker 1: made fun of Andrew Jackson. It was so great. Did
1:04:13
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1:04:17
Speaker 1: I want to see Kinky Boots because my favorite American
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Speaker 1: idol um, David Cook is in it. For a very
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Speaker 1: limited time, so I'm gonna go see that on May fourth.
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Speaker 1: I believe what else? Did I see a zillion billion times? Oh?
1:04:29
Speaker 1: My god? I saw Rock of Ages seven times. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So anyway, guys, I saw a Laddin three times. I
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Speaker 1: see all, I see it all, I see it all.
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Speaker 1: But uh, I had very very high expectations for Dear
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Speaker 1: Evan Hanson, and I was just left liking it. It
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Speaker 1: was no greatest showman, guys, no greatest showman. All right. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's enough of Ashley's critique on Broadway. I appreciate you
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