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- 0:00There is a difference between a properly seasoned meal and one that is trying too hard.
- 0:06You know what I'm talking about.
- 0:08You sit down, you take a bite, and it's just too much.
- 0:13Too salty, too spicy, too greasy, too something, too everything.
- 0:19Every single flavor is fighting
- 0:21for attention at the same time, and then there's the other one.
- 0:25It's the one where you take a bite
- 0:26and you go, what is that?
- 0:29Not in a bad way, in the best possible way.
- 0:32In the, I can't quite put my
- 0:34finger on it, but I need to know what's in this kind of way.
- 0:39That, my friend, is what garlic does.
- 0:42It's what salt does.
- 0:44What the right amount of the right thing does to an otherwise good meal.
- 0:48And that is exactly what I want to talk to you about today.
- 0:52Not cooking.
- 0:53I'm not a chef,
- 0:55A mediocre home cook at best.
- 0:57But what I'm talking about is podcasting, specifically the one ingredient most podcast hosts are either too afraid to add or adding so aggressively that it's all anyone can taste.
- 1:11This is your mic.
- 1:13My name is Freddy Cruz and today we're talking about the anti-hero.
- 1:17Some of you know PodQuest.
- 1:18That's my online course for podcast hosts who want to build something binge-worthy from the ground up.
- 1:25In PodQuest, we talk about the storytelling elements of a great show.
- 1:30Your listener is the hero.
- 1:31Always the hero.
- 1:32The show is never about you.
- 1:34It's for them.
- 1:35Their pain point is the villain.
- 1:37The thing keeping them up at night.
- 1:39The problem they keep running into.
- 1:41The question nobody in their industry will ever answer honestly.
- 1:46Then there's the supporting cast.
- 1:48Co-hosts.
- 1:50Recurring guests.
- 1:51One-time guests.
- 1:52The voices that add texture and credibility to your world, to their world, and of course the plot.
- 1:59That's the arc of the entire show.
- 2:01Episode to episode, season to season.
- 2:05If you're listening to this and realizing your show has all the elements but still feels a little bland,
- 2:10that's exactly the kind of problem Speak Podcasting solves.
- 2:14If you want help building a show that actually tastes like something,
- 2:18go to speakpodcasting.com that is s-p-e-k-e podcasting.com hit the contact form tell me
- 2:24you came from this podcast and what kind of show you'd like to build and now back to the antihero
- 2:30that antihero it's the hot take it's the thing you say that does not fit neatly inside the
- 2:38conventional wisdom of your industry the opinion that has been sitting in the back of your throat
- 2:44for two years waiting for someone to give you permission to say it out loud.
- 2:48Now, I know what you might be thinking.
- 2:52Freddie, you've talked about this before.
- 2:56Saying the quiet part out loud, isn't that the same thing?
- 3:00Kind of.
- 3:01But I want to reframe it because I think saying the quiet part out loud,
- 3:05giving the hot take, well, those phrases have become a little cliche at this point.
- 3:10everybody's got a no fluff no filter call it like it is podcast now it's become its own kind of
- 3:16noise so let's talk about the anti-hero the way a chef talks about garlic and salt a properly
- 3:25seasoned dish is never bland but it also is not assaulting you the salt is there the garlic is
- 3:33there you can feel it it makes everything else taste more like itself more alive more
- 3:39intentional.
- 3:41Too much salt, too little salt, too little garlic, and the food is flat, safe,
- 3:49forgettable.
- 3:50Too much salt, too much garlic, and all you've got is salt and garlic, like your
- 3:56favorite big chain restaurant.
- 3:58The dish is ruined, and more importantly, nobody comes back for
- 4:02seconds.
- 4:03The anti-hero in your podcast works exactly the same way.
- 4:07If it's too little, your
- 4:09show is pleasant, fine, inoffensive, and completely forgettable if we're being honest.
- 4:15You're one of
- 4:1610,000 podcasts in your niche saying approximately the same things in approximately the same order
- 4:23too much, and you become the host who is contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
- 4:30Every episode is a hot take.
- 4:31Every guest is a foil.
- 4:33Every industry norm is a target.
- 4:35And pretty soon your audience doesn't trust you because you seem more interested in being edgy than being right.
- 4:41And this is the craft.
- 4:43Is the anti-hero as a presence in your show?
- 4:46Not the whole show.
- 4:48A presence.
- 4:49The garlic you can taste but can't quite locate.
- 4:53The je ne sais quoi.
- 4:55Let me make this concrete.
- 4:57The anti-hero is not just an opinion.
- 5:00It's an informed opinion that your listener suspects is true but has never heard anyone else say plainly or not in the way you say it.
- 5:08It is the episode where you tell your audience that more downloads will not save a bad show.
- 5:14It is the moment you push back on a guest respectfully but clearly because you disagree and your audience deserves to hear that disagreement.
- 5:22It is the episode where you say, here's the advice every expert in this space gives and here is why I think it is incomplete.
- 5:31It is the quiet admission that you made a mistake and here is what it cost you.
- 5:36None of those are attacks.
- 5:37None of those are manufactured controversy or as the kids will say, a non-troversy.
- 5:44What they are is salt.
- 5:47They make everything around them taste more like what it is.
- 5:50And here's what happens when you add the anti-hero to the pod quest framework.
- 5:54Your hero, your listener, suddenly has a guide who is not just cheering them on, but telling them the truth.
- 6:01And the right truth, when it is delivered with care and context, and the right amount of seasoning, that is what builds a binge-worthy show.
- 6:09Before I keep going, if you want to go deeper on all of this, the hero, the villain, the supporting cast, the setting, the plot,
- 6:16And now the Antihero Podquest is where we build it out all together.
- 6:22And right now, you'll score 20% off with the code in the show notes.
- 6:28So how do you know where the line is?
- 6:31Well, you make like a chef and you taste as you go.
- 6:35Literally, taste the food.
- 6:38Now, before you publish an episode with a hot take in it, ask yourself three different questions.
- 6:43One, is this true or is it just provocative?
- 6:48The anti-hero has to be grounded.
- 6:50It has to be something you can defend, something you have lived or observed or researched or all of the above.
- 6:57If it is only provocative, it's not salt.
- 7:01It's only noise.
- 7:03Two, am I saying this for my listener or for myself?
- 7:09There is a version of the hot take that is really just venting.
- 7:13That is not the anti-hero.
- 7:15That is a bad day with a microphone, and you've got to know the difference.
- 7:20Three, would I say this to somebody's face?
- 7:24And this is a big one because everybody on the internet is nice and brave until you have to say it to somebody's face.
- 7:30If the answer is no, if this is only brave because you are behind a mic and they cannot respond, reconsider.
- 7:37bitter.
- 7:38The antihero has conviction and it never hides.
- 7:44Now, if you can answer yes to all three of
- 7:47those questions, add the damn salt.
- 7:50Hit publish.
- 7:52Here's the thing about great cooking.
- 7:55Nobody walks
- 7:55out of a great meal talking about the salt.
- 7:58They talk about the experience, the feeling, the fact
- 8:00that they could not stop eating even when they were full.
- 8:05The salt did its job quietly.
- 8:08That is what the antihero does for your show
- 8:10when you use it right.
- 8:13It never announces itself.
- 8:15It just makes everything else better,
- 8:17more honest, more alive, more worth coming back for.
- 8:21Your listener does not need you to be edgy.
- 8:25They need you to be brave enough
- 8:26to say the thing that is actually true.
- 8:29That's the whole game.
- 8:31Season accordingly.
- 8:32My name is Freddy Cruz and thank you so much for listening to your mic.
- 8:36If you'd like some help weaving this kind of honest, well-seasoned perspective into a show that actually serves your listener and your business,
- 8:44hit up speakpodcasting.com and hit that contact form.
- 8:48Tell them you came from this podcast and what kind of show you're trying to build.
- 8:52And do not forget, PodQuest is open and you do get 20% off with the code in the show notes.
- 8:58And as always, share this episode if it hits you.
- 9:01Subscribe if you haven't.
- 9:03And thank you so much for spending your time with me.