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- 2:20Hello everybody and welcome back to the Elon Musk pod.
- 2:23My name is Will Walden. I'm your host this episode.
- 2:26We're going to be talking about Tesla and not just about Tesla
- 2:30vehicles. We're going to be talking about
- 2:32Tesla battery life, He's so we all know about the range of
- 2:36Tesla's. 300-plus miles, we're all aware of that.
- 2:41But the batteries right now, there are thing that may need to
- 2:47be replaced at some point in your vehicle.
- 2:50Probably not most Tesla owners will never have to replace the
- 2:54battery but Elon Musk is been on record in the said that Tesla
- 3:00would be able to have a million-mile battery more than
- 3:05double of what Tesla drivers can expect today.
- 3:09So right now, half a million miles for your battery.
- 3:13That's cool. You know no one's ever.
- 3:16I think anyone's gonna get to half a million miles in their
- 3:18Tesla. Maybe I mean I know there's some
- 3:22hardcore Tesla drivers out there that could keep their car for a
- 3:25really long time and just see how long it can last.
- 3:28But there has been a paper published recently that his said
- 3:35hey our are batteries have On crazy over a million miles.
- 3:42That doesn't mean your car is going to last a million miles,
- 3:44right? So it doesn't mean that you can
- 3:46drive a million miles in your Tesla, in one charge, it means
- 3:51that the overall lifespan of your battery is going to last
- 3:56for a million miles if I could drive a million miles in a
- 3:59Tesla. Yeah, that would be pretty
- 4:02amazing, but that's not that's not the case.
- 4:04So earlier this month, the group of vets battery researchers and
- 4:08Del hosi University, which has an exclusive agreement with
- 4:12Tesla published a paper in the Journal of the electrochemical
- 4:16Society, describing a lithium ion battery, that should be able
- 4:20to power, an electric vehicle, for over 1 million miles while
- 4:25losing less than 10% of its energy capacity during its
- 4:28lifetime. That was in wired while you're
- 4:31down. dot-com is a story there, and Jeff Don who's the world's
- 4:37foremost lithium-ion researcher? He is part of this group that
- 4:43has made that claim. They posted the study as says
- 4:48full details of these cells including electrode,
- 4:51compositions, electrode loadings, electrolyte
- 4:53compositions, additives, used Etc, have been provided.
- 4:58This has been done so that others can recreate these cells
- 5:01and use them as benchmarks for their own R&D efforts.
- 5:06So this is an amazing thing. They have basically open source
- 5:12the formula for super long-lasting batteries.
- 5:18If you need to earn D this stuff and you need to make your own
- 5:20battery. That's cool.
- 5:22Anybody out there. Can do it.
- 5:24Any vehicle provider can do it. and that being said, right after
- 5:31this happened, right after this was published Tesla, Got a
- 5:37patent for a lithium ion battery that is very similar to the one
- 5:43described in the paper. I'll have more about that right
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- 6:10these Tesla batteries. The lithium-ion battery is
- 6:13described in the paper. Use lithium nickel manganese,
- 6:17Cobalt oxide or any MC for the battery's, positive electrode,
- 6:22the cathode and artificial graphite for its negative
- 6:25electrodes. The anode the electrolyte which
- 6:28fairies lithium ions between the electrode terminals consists of
- 6:32a lithium salt blended with other compounds.
- 6:35The nmc graphite chemistry is have been known to increase the
- 6:39energy density and lifespan of lithium ion batteries, almost
- 6:43all electric cars. The leaf the bolt, they all use
- 6:47nmc chemistry is in the bag. Therese, but not Tesla.
- 6:52The blend of electrolyte and additives is what ends up, being
- 6:55the subject of Trade Secrets. But even those materials is
- 6:58described in the paper were well known in the industry.
- 7:01In other words, Matt Lacy a Lithium-Ion battery expert at
- 7:04the skinny of group who was not involved in.
- 7:08The research said, there is nothing in the secret sauce.
- 7:11That was a secret. That's on wired as well.
- 7:15So it's a really cool article. But these Tesla batteries, let's
- 7:21check this out. With a partnership with Tesla.
- 7:27Don's team was tasked with creating, and Lithium-ion
- 7:30batteries that can store more energy and have a longer
- 7:33lifetime than commercially available batteries and electric
- 7:37cars, the metrics, translate to how far you can drive your car
- 7:41on a single charge and how many charges you can get out of the
- 7:45battery before it stops working. It basically just runs out of
- 7:49Eventually. The trade-off between energy
- 7:52density and Battery Lifetime, and if you want more of one, you
- 7:56get less of the other and the group was responsible for the
- 8:00impossible task of overcoming the trade-off.
- 8:04So right now, Tesla's new cars can get about 370 miles per
- 8:10charge which is beyond the range of electric vehicles from other
- 8:16companies at this point and based on the typical American
- 8:21commute, most EV owners use only about a quarter of a charge per
- 8:26day. What to make something like?
- 8:31A fleet of Robotics a robotic trucks or taxis, you'll need a
- 8:37battery that can handle a full discharge every day.
- 8:43And you'll need those batteries to last a super long time,
- 8:47because it's not about commuting.
- 8:50From one place to another to your work and back to the store
- 8:54and back, Etc. This is about handling.
- 8:56Hundreds of thousands of people every single day as I was
- 9:02driving, hundreds of thousands of miles per year for some of
- 9:07these long-haul trucks. So, these batteries have to last
- 9:12a really long time. And since this new chemistry,
- 9:18500,000 miles isn't enough with the old chemistry so they needed
- 9:22something else, they doubled it, they made it a million miles per
- 9:26battery. The million mile battery will be
- 9:30here soon. My friends and it will be in
- 9:33production at the Tesla gigafactory.
- 9:38Everything is coming together and the business model for Tesla
- 9:43isn't just going to be cars for you.
- 9:45And me, it's going to be for the casino before Robo taxi is the
- 9:49Ubers sort of, you know, the test, the Uber kind of
- 9:53combination and long-haul trucks and it's all happening, this is
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