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The Ron Verb Show - Full Broadcast from Wednesday, 08/19/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: A hot off of an explosive broadcast that we had yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: I'll have to have Ted the Conservative dissect it at
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  Speaker 2: some point here on the broadcast. When we were talking
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  Speaker 2: economics last night, Ted the Conservative, G2, and myself, it
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  Speaker 2: was explosive. It was explosive. And with my disagreement with G2,
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  Speaker 2: very explosive segment yesterday. So maybe Ted can dissect all
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  Speaker 2: of that, perhaps sometime this afternoon here on NewsRadio 570.
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  Speaker 2: So keep that in mind. U.S. ally cuts Iran's economic
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  Speaker 2: artery that Trump has struggled to reach. I'll give you
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  Speaker 2: some details on that coming up shortly. How about all
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  Speaker 2: these people, as I mentioned at the beginning of the
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  Speaker 2: broadcast yesterday, how about these people in this country that
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  Speaker 2: make a big damn deal out of everything? And when
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  Speaker 2: I say everything, I mean flock cameras. Flock cameras. So
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  Speaker 2: many people, for some reason, seem to think the government's
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  Speaker 2: so interested in them and their lives. I mentioned yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll say to you today, cameras are everywhere. So
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  Speaker 2: if you go in a store, you're on camera. If
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  Speaker 2: you go outside, people have ring doorbells, ring cameras all
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  Speaker 2: over the place. I mean, cameras are everywhere. So people
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  Speaker 2: get all upset because your local police department has flock
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  Speaker 2: cameras or they're going to install flock cameras. And I
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  Speaker 2: see some of the people that are upset with my
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  Speaker 2: trustees in Austintown because they made a decision to put
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  Speaker 2: in some flock cameras. And for the life of me,
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  Speaker 2: here I am. I will defend them. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: there's anything wrong with the decision that they made at all.
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  Speaker 2: Austintown is getting six cameras, not 10, 20 or 50.
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  Speaker 2: They're getting six. in a couple months, so six flock cameras.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a pretty good bet that they'll be placed
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  Speaker 2: in areas that make sense for investigating crimes, where people
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  Speaker 2: flee in vehicles around commercial areas and the main roads.
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  Speaker 2: It's where you're gonna get best use of your flock cameras.
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  Speaker 2: So when I hear people say, oh, it's government intrusion,
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  Speaker 2: you're losing your privacy because when you drive by it,
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  Speaker 2: it grabs a picture of your car and your license
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  Speaker 2: plates and looks to see if it's a stolen car,
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  Speaker 2: are there any warrants and that kind of stuff. The
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  Speaker 2: fly cameras are looking for criminal activity, criminals. It's not
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  Speaker 2: a bad thing, it's a good thing. And yet people
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  Speaker 2: seem to make a giant big damn deal out of them.
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  Speaker 2: They're not traffic cameras. They're not going to be used
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  Speaker 2: to mail people speeding tickets, anything like that. So let's
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  Speaker 2: make it clear. Flock cameras are not these speeding camera tickets.
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  Speaker 2: They're simply there for your police departments. They take a
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  Speaker 2: picture of your license plate in your car, runs a
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  Speaker 2: check on that to see if you're guilty of some
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  Speaker 2: criminal activity, if you will. Maybe it's a stolen car.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you just robbed a bank. They're an investigative tool.
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  Speaker 2: Stolen cars, wanted people, be on the lookout, bolos, thefts, robberies, assaults,
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  Speaker 2: property crimes. Where somebody leaves in a vehicle. This is
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  Speaker 2: really to make a community safer. And it will make
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  Speaker 2: Austintown a safer community with six flock cameras. Niles has them.
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  Speaker 2: Canfield has them. City of Canfield has them. Niles has them.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of all the places that have
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  Speaker 2: flock cameras. But the people who bellyache and bitch about
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  Speaker 2: them must– I'm not making the connection as to why
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  Speaker 2: they would do such a thing. As I say, these
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  Speaker 2: are an investigative tool. They're there for stolen cars. Wanted
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  Speaker 2: people be on the lookout, say, we're looking for this car.
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  Speaker 2: Just hit a kid on a bike. Thefts, robberies, assaults,
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  Speaker 2: property crimes where somebody leaves in a vehicle. Basically, if
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  Speaker 2: somebody steals your car, breaks into your house, and takes
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  Speaker 2: off before the cops get there, it gives the cops
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  Speaker 2: another way to figure out where that vehicle went or
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  Speaker 2: what direction it went. And that is a good thing. Officers...
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  Speaker 2: Can't just get on there and start looking up random
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  Speaker 2: people because they want to know where somebody is going.
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  Speaker 2: You need a legitimate law enforcement reason for the search
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  Speaker 2: to get on there. I mean, anybody who breaks out
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  Speaker 2: will lose their job, whether that's the existing leads computer
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  Speaker 2: or it's flock cameras. So there's a lot of guardrails
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  Speaker 2: and laws pertinent to these. So they all have their
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  Speaker 2: own logins, have to put in a reason for the search,
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  Speaker 2: All the searches are logged. They can be audited. So
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  Speaker 2: if you ever have an officer that's using it for
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  Speaker 2: something they shouldn't be using it for, there's a record
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  Speaker 2: of it and obviously consequences for that. These flat cameras
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  Speaker 2: do not use facial recognition. I want you to know
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  Speaker 2: that to figure out who's driving. It's looking at license
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  Speaker 2: plates and vehicle information on public roadways. Public roadways. So
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  Speaker 2: I think it's an asset in my opinion. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I am just bewildered by the people that just, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if they just are running out of things
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  Speaker 2: to bitch about. I don't know if they're just paranoid.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what their problem is. But it's not
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  Speaker 2: a bad idea, in my opinion, as we expand these
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  Speaker 2: in Austintown with six cameras. Canfield City has around 15
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  Speaker 2: to 19 cameras, depending on the point in time you're
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  Speaker 2: looking at. And that's a smaller community than Austintown. They
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  Speaker 2: obviously see a value in them. Boardman's an even bigger comparison.
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  Speaker 2: Boardman Township is about 24 square miles with 40,000 people.
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  Speaker 2: So it's similar to Austintown in both size and population.
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  Speaker 2: Boardman moved forward with flock deployments. It was reported locally
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  Speaker 2: at around 90 cameras. Austintown's talking six. Six. This isn't
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  Speaker 2: something that I fear or I worry about or I
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  Speaker 2: think it's an invasion of privacy. Hey, driving is a privilege.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a right. And with that comes responsibilities. You
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  Speaker 2: got to have insurance, all kinds of stuff. And these
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  Speaker 2: flock cameras are there really for technology. In Austintown, the
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  Speaker 2: police department could use the help. They're understaffed, overworked, operating
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  Speaker 2: at minimum staffing. So if technology can take some of
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  Speaker 2: the workload off the cop or detective and help them
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  Speaker 2: develop a lead faster, how's that a bad thing? And
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  Speaker 2: from a taxpayer standpoint, of which I am one, If
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  Speaker 2: an officer or a detective can get a direction or
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  Speaker 2: location on a suspect vehicle in a few minutes instead
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  Speaker 2: of spending hours driving around, finding businesses and houses with
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  Speaker 2: cameras and then watching videos, that's less manpower and taxpayer
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  Speaker 2: money being spent trying to look for a lead. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't replace the cop. It just cuts down on
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  Speaker 2: some of the time-consuming bullcrap so the cops can move
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  Speaker 2: on to the next call or detectives can work the investigation.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't be a bad thing. I mean, I think of
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  Speaker 2: when they stole that ATM from the one bank on
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  Speaker 2: the 46, the credit union over there. What if there
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  Speaker 2: were flock cameras that we had at that time? Would
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  Speaker 2: have probably been a good thing. Because the cops can't
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  Speaker 2: be everywhere. I just don't get the people that fear
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  Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. It's like, well, it's okay for
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  Speaker 2: me to have ring cameras or you to have ring cameras.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay for a store to have cameras. Why do
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  Speaker 2: stores have them? Because of shoplifters. Why do people have them?
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  Speaker 2: Because of security with their own household. But somehow it's
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  Speaker 2: a bad idea for your police department to have them
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  Speaker 2: to try to get the guy who just stole your
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  Speaker 2: car to find your car. Or an Amber Alert on
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  Speaker 2: a child. Or somebody that just robbed a bank or
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  Speaker 2: committed a crime. Somehow this is like a bad idea.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you can have privacy concerns about them. And
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  Speaker 2: you can question that. But there's controls on who can
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  Speaker 2: use it and search it. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: to me, it's pretty simple. If someone steals your car,
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  Speaker 2: assaults you, breaks into your house or business, or commits
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  Speaker 2: some other crime and takes off in a vehicle before
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  Speaker 2: the cops get there, it'll give the cops another tool
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  Speaker 2: to try to figure out where they went. Here's a shocker.
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  Speaker 2: The cops aren't that interested in you unless you're a criminal. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I sit back and I hear the people
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  Speaker 2: that are bellyaching about it and I just think, It's technology.
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  Speaker 2: It's a tool to help your police department become more
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  Speaker 2: efficient so that we have a tool that can make,
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  Speaker 2: we can do, we can become more efficient, solve crimes.
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  Speaker 2: And who should fear flock cameras? I'll tell you who. Criminals.
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  Speaker 2: Criminals should fear flock cameras.
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  Speaker 3: Period.
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  Speaker 2: Period. I can assure you the Austin Police Department could
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  Speaker 2: care less. Say, hey, Ron Verp said five guys. They
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  Speaker 2: could care less. They don't care where you are, what
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  Speaker 2: you're doing. That's not the purpose of flock cameras. It's
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  Speaker 2: no different than if you're sitting at a traffic light
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  Speaker 2: and the cops running your license plate to see if
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  Speaker 2: you got any issues, outstanding issues. Driving is a privilege,
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  Speaker 2: not a right. You got to get a license plate.
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  Speaker 2: So something to think about when I hear people bellyaching
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  Speaker 2: about this kind of stuff. It's technology. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: bellyaching about it. As a matter of fact, I'm applauding it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a step in the right direction for
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  Speaker 2: the community in which I live. Boardman has them. Canfield
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  Speaker 2: has them. Niles has it. And we're just getting six.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they should get a couple more, quite frankly, on
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  Speaker 2: some of these major intersections. Because the one thing that
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  Speaker 2: I am seeing is we are having more crime. We
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  Speaker 2: are having more issues with that crime. And if this
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  Speaker 2: helps the cops capture the criminals, then I think we're
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  Speaker 2: all better off as a result of it. So many
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  Speaker 2: people are just paranoid. Are they paranoid because everybody's got
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  Speaker 2: a ring camera? You're walking down the street, taking your
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  Speaker 2: dog for a walk, you're probably on a camera. You
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  Speaker 2: go into Walmart, I'm sure they can watch wherever you
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  Speaker 2: are and whatever you're doing. So there you have it.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let me see what is awaiting me today
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  Speaker 2: on NewsRadio 570 WKN. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Ron, how you doing?
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  Speaker 2: It's Gino.
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  Speaker 5: Gino?
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  Speaker 4: Hey.
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  Speaker 2: Gino the commissioner. Commissioner Gino DeFabio.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 7: There you go.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, I'd like to weigh in on those cameras.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: You know, I don't know if people think that they're
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  Speaker 8: building a database on every car that goes by because
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  Speaker 8: the police don't have time to do that.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 9: And like you said, it is a tool.
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  Speaker 8: If they're looking for, say they're looking for a murderer
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  Speaker 8: or looking for a stolen car, and that is the information.
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  Speaker 10: They get immediately.
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  Speaker 8: They don't know if I drive past a thing in
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  Speaker 8: Canfield 12 times, that camera's not going to hit on
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  Speaker 8: me or they're not going to make a log, well,
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  Speaker 8: Gino was here 12 times.
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  Speaker 11: That absolutely, I want the police.
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  Speaker 8: To have every tool they have, every advantage over the criminal.
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  Speaker 8: If they're looking for an armed robber who got away
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  Speaker 8: in a car and they haven't found him for a
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  Speaker 8: few days. I mean, I've read stories where they found
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  Speaker 8: people like two states over. They saw they were in
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  Speaker 8: an area on a flock camera. I don't have a
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  Speaker 8: problem with them. And I can't see, I think people
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  Speaker 8: aren't getting the message out. I think too many people
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  Speaker 8: are saying, oh, it's government intrusion. They want to know
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  Speaker 8: where you're at all the time.
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  Speaker 5: Nope.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they don't care, Gino. They don't care about where
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  Speaker 2: you are.
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  Speaker 9: Ron, they don't have time.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Our sheriffs don't have time.
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  Speaker 8: I know Canfield police don't have time. Austin Town Police,
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  Speaker 8: their numbers aren't enough that they want to see, well,
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  Speaker 8: let's see, maybe, hey, why is Ron driving past again?
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  Speaker 4: That's not, well, yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Is Rod at Chipotle again? My God.
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  Speaker 8: The dispensary's not even open yet. Why is Ron driving
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  Speaker 8: past that at the storefront? But I think people have
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  Speaker 8: to have a better understanding of what they're for.
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  Speaker 12: And you're right.
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  Speaker 8: Everybody's scared of the government. They think, oh, they're doing this,
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  Speaker 8: they're doing that.
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  Speaker 2: But this is ridiculous to be concerned about this at all.
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  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I would say Austintown, we're
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  Speaker 2: late to the game. This makes your police department more efficient.
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  Speaker 2: And the people who should fear them, once again, Gino,
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  Speaker 2: I say, are the criminals. That's who should fear fly cameras.
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  Speaker 8: Especially with the interstate out there. Imagine how many people
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  Speaker 8: trying to get away, use that interstate, and you get
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  Speaker 8: off in Austintown. If you can get those crazies and
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  Speaker 8: those criminals off the street, I say more power to you.
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  Speaker 8: And we still got some room in the jail. Lock
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  Speaker 8: them up in our jail.
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  Speaker 2: Get them off the street.
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  Speaker 8: We have to be able to move about safely. The
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  Speaker 8: cops are doing all they can, and I'm all for it.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I support anything that helps the police support
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  Speaker 8: our residents and do a better job of protecting them
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  Speaker 8: and serving them.
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  Speaker 2: I'm 100% with you. Any other exciting news you want
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  Speaker 2: to share with us before I got to pause? Oh,
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  Speaker 2: my God.
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  Speaker 8: If I wasn't, honest to God, if I wasn't heading
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  Speaker 8: to a meeting right now, I would talk longer.
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  Speaker 2: I'll call you back.
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  Speaker 13: We'll do a story.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do some time. All right. Hang on, Gino. Wait
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  Speaker 2: a second. I want to access my flock camera to
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  Speaker 2: see where you are at the present time. According to
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  Speaker 2: my flock camera, Gino, you're going to the Taco Bell drive-thru.
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  Speaker 9: Actually, I'm going out to our.
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  Speaker 8: Wellness center to meet with the next, actually, the Attorney General.
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  Speaker 2: He's coming in.
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  Speaker 14: He wants to tour the building.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. All right, Gino. Good hearing you. Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 13: All right, sir.
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  Speaker 4: Have a good day.
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  Speaker 2: There you.
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  Speaker 15: Go.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with him 100% on this kind of stuff. You
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  Speaker 2: want to be in a safe community. This is a
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  Speaker 2: tool for the police to use that are That's really short-staffed.
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  Speaker 2: Some of the people that are really... I've got to
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  Speaker 2: call them as I see them ragging on my trustees.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's ridiculous. I just think it's absolutely ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: And people are paranoid, and I don't think it's right.
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  Speaker 2: You're on air. Hey, Ron.
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  Speaker 15: How are you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: I'm well, sir. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 15: You know, I don't think the clock cameras have... been
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  Speaker 15: sold to the public as its sole purpose. It has
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  Speaker 15: a lot to do with the data centers that are
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  Speaker 15: being built and whether or not we can solve crimes
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  Speaker 15: with these cameras is one way or the other. I
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  Speaker 15: could have swore we passed a bunch of levees and
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  Speaker 15: mills to have..
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  Speaker 2: Well, stand by for me. Let me do my break
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  Speaker 2: and come back to you, all right? Hang in there
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  Speaker 2: for a minute. I'll let him finish his thoughts when
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  Speaker 2: I come back after these messages.
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  Speaker 2: And Ron Firm from the Kingdom of Mahoning here. On
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  Speaker 2: this Wednesday, August 19th, 82 degrees. All right, sir. Sir,
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  Speaker 2: hello there. Pay attention.
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  Speaker 15: Yes, sir, I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: All right, take it from the top. What is it
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  Speaker 2: that you wanted to contribute?
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  Speaker 15: Okay, so... We're having flock cameras installed around the country.
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  Speaker 15: And at the same time, we're having these data centers
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  Speaker 15: installed as well. We've passed levies. Everybody's paying taxes for
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  Speaker 15: what we've already allowed the police to do their jobs with.
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  Speaker 15: I think what is going above and beyond the... Flock cameras.
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  Speaker 15: It is a violation of everybody's movement. Our cars are
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  Speaker 15: tracked with GPS. Our phones are tracked with GPS. What
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  Speaker 15: more could they possibly be looking for?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to tell you. I mean, you just
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  Speaker 2: bring this up. You have a cell phone and probably
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  Speaker 2: anything that you Google. If you ever Google something, next
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  Speaker 2: thing you know, you get an ad for it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: so that's part of the terms and condition. So you
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  Speaker 2: can choose not to have a cell phone if that's
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  Speaker 2: the case. You're talking about all of this other stuff
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  Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with law enforcement. Fly cameras
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  Speaker 2: are there for one purpose, to aid police in catching
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  Speaker 2: criminals in your community. That is the sole purpose of them.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: That's what we've.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Been told, Ron.
• 19:42
  Speaker 15: Well, what do you think they're doing? I understand what
• 19:45
  Speaker 15: you're saying, and I believe that the police... and I
• 19:48
  Speaker 15: don't want criminals running through our streets getting away with lawlessness,
• 19:53
  Speaker 15: but what if you're driving a car without tags on it?
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: You know, this is ridiculous.
• 19:59
  Speaker 9: It's all the other people.
• 20:01
  Speaker 15: That aren't doing crime that are being a victim of
• 20:04
  Speaker 15: this kind of surveillance. And this is exactly what it
• 20:07
  Speaker 15: boils down to. And the people that are building these..
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Are you that paranoid? For example..
• 20:14
  Speaker 15: No, it's not paranoia, Ron.
• 20:15
  Speaker 17: Listen, I pay taxes.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute.
• 20:16
  Speaker 15: I don't give a damn. I pay car payments.
• 20:18
  Speaker 12: I pay car payments.
• 20:19
  Speaker 15: I do the same thing you do every day.
• 20:21
  Speaker 12: But guess what?
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: What?
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: I don't appreciate the.
• 20:23
  Speaker 15: Ability for somebody else to take it one step further
• 20:26
  Speaker 15: than what you know about. And that's what's coming.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I think I know about it. I'm not fear
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: about what's coming.
• 20:32
  Speaker 15: They take the illegals out of the country. They're more
• 20:34
  Speaker 15: worried about who the other..
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: That's a whole different topic.
• 20:37
  Speaker 15: The tag on their car?
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: What about the illegal stuff that goes on?
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Well, if you don't have a tag on your car,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: that's probably something that should get the attention of a
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: cop and or a flock camera, don't you think?
• 20:51
  Speaker 15: Exactly, but that flock camera is inoperable when you don't
• 20:56
  Speaker 15: have a tag on your car. And the things that,
• 21:00
  Speaker 15: and I'll tell you what, there is no proof that
• 21:04
  Speaker 15: they don't do facial recognition because they do.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I told you they do not. I'm telling you for
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: a fact.
• 21:09
  Speaker 13: Well, I'm telling you they do.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, really? What is it based on? If you're telling
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: me they do.
• 21:13
  Speaker 15: It's all China technology. This did just come out of
• 21:17
  Speaker 15: a whim for.
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: The United States to just stand firm on criminal activity.
• 21:21
  Speaker 15: Well, we've got congressmen and senators ripping our country off.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Hey, pal, I live in Austintown, Ohio. If somebody steals
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: my car, I'm not worried about what the congressman is doing.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I'm worried about if my car is stolen that they
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: can get it and get it back to me. I'm
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: worried about if somebody robs the bank that they can
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: determine where they're going when they.
• 21:44
  Speaker 13: Stole the ATM.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: You know what that is? That's called technology. Are you
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: concerned that I've got a ring camera, sir?
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: No, no, no.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:53
  Speaker 15: That thought process just tells me that by the time
• 21:56
  Speaker 15: you find out or the time that you've heard about it,
• 21:59
  Speaker 15: it's too late.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: You are not that interesting. You are not that interesting.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: The cops don't care about you. The government doesn't care
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: about you. The only thing they care about is if
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: you rob the bank. They don't care. You're not that interesting.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: You're not under surveillance. You're not.
• 22:16
  Speaker 15: That's why they put flock cameras up, because we're not interesting.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: What does a flock camera do? You're wrong, Ron.
• 22:23
  Speaker 15: I love you, brother, but you're wrong on this.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: You don't know what you're talking about. I'll find out
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: in 10 years. You don't know what you're talking about.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: It's nothing but paranoid nonsense. And I do mean paranoid nonsense.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: If this makes my police department more efficient with the
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: staffing it has to catch criminals in my community, I
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: support it. That flock camera is taken, does not have
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: facial recognition. It's taking a picture of your car and
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: a license plate. And just as a cop can do
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: when he's sitting behind you or when you drive by
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: an intersection. And guess what? It catches criminals. It's there
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: for people that are breaking the law.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: You, sir.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Everything you said was inaccurate. I'll be back.
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• 24:45
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• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just, it's ridiculous. I don't know that
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: you even have an expectation of privacy when you're out
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: in public, incidentally. You take a dog for a walk
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: down the streets. I can assure you you're on somebody's
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: ring camera as you're driving down the streets, as you're
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: walking down. How many times have those ring cameras that
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: citizens own helped solve crime in neighborhoods? People breaking into cars,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: stealing cars, whatever. How often do you see on Facebook
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: where they post these pictures? Hey, do you know who
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: this guy is? We're looking for him because he just
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: stole a bunch of stuff from Home Depot or Walmart's.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Have you ever noticed the pictures that they put out
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: there are crystal clear anymore? They're not those grainy black
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: and white ones of years ago. It's like a professional
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: photographer has taken a lot of these pictures that you
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: see from people that are shoplifting from Walmart. Should we say,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: how dare them invade that person's privacy and put their
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: picture out there because they're stealing stuff? They're criminals. They
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: don't put your picture out there. I mean, when you
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: walk in Walmarts, when you're in a parking lot of
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Walmarts or in the store, you're on camera. And that's
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: how they do their security. Because we got so many
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: thieves anymore who steal stuff. Whether it's at Walmarts, at Meijer,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Home Depot. Are they all supposed to have four cops
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: working there? The police department only has so many people
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: that a community can afford. If you can give up
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: state-of-the-art technology, and these aren't new cameras. Flock cameras have
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: been around a long time. Have you felt your privacy's
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: been violated when you're in City Canfield or Boardman or Niles?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I would say six cameras in Austintown isn't enough. They
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: should probably have some more. But anybody that's, sometimes I
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: think people think that the government has that much time
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: to really be concerned about you specifically. I mean, most
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: people are pretty much anonymous. You take, for example, you
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: file your tax returns. That's all supposed to be private.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: You had a guy that stole Trump's tax return information
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: and put it out there in Sean Hannity's. But that
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: guy ended up going to jail, as he should have.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Because that's against the law. And quite frankly, the New
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: York Times, which published it, I don't know if they
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: sued him or not. I didn't follow it through that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: But they should have been held accountable for that as well.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: This is the reality. So occasionally, can you have cops
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: that are... Abuse elite system, well, we know what's happened
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: and we know what's happened to them. Just as if
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: this is abused. And it has to have ramifications and
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: it does. But if it makes it easier on you
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: or on the cops to catch criminals, we should support it.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I certainly do. All right, News Radio 570, WKVN, you're
• 28:37
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• 28:39
  Speaker 7: Hey, Ron, you're making a great case for your flock cameras.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: However, I'd like to throw a couple things at you
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: and let's see what you think. Okay, there are safeguards
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: and guardrails on it now that they're only allowed to
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: do certain things. What about under the next administration or
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: your next governor? What if they take those off?
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: They're not going to.
• 29:04
  Speaker 10: Take it off.
• 29:05
  Speaker 13: How do you know?
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: What if instead of 600 in your neighborhood and on
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: both ends of your street?
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Listen, what if this? What if that? I'm not going
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: to deal with the what ifs. Here's the reality.
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: It's called a slippery slope, Ron.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: No, it's not.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: It's called paranoia. Are you paranoid when you go to
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: the city of Canfield? They have flock cameras. Does it
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: bother you? Does it bother you that they're in Boardman
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: or in Niles?
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: No.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: It takes a picture of your license plate if your
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: car is stolen. It takes a picture if you had
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: grabbed a child and abducted a child so that we
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: can rescue that kid. You robbed a bank. It's a
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: tool for the police where police departments are stretched pretty
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: thin and budgets are pretty thin to be able to
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: apprehend criminals. Is that a good thing?
• 30:04
  Speaker 13: Yes, it's a good thing.
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: That's why I say you make a good point. But
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: what if they take it further?
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: But what if there are no what ifs? I tell
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: you what.
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: How about the next time the Democrats get in charge
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: and decide to shut the country down and there's a
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: flock coming right in front of your house, you step outside,
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: you get a notification, Ron Verb, why are you outside
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: of your house? This is a shutdown.
• 30:25
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, believe it when I see it,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: because you can what if constantly. But you know what?
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: You should be more concerned about just having a digital
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: money supply. That would be more of an issue with
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: that with your federal governments. You have a cell phone.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Do you have a cell phone?
• 30:48
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Well, gee, do you Google anything?
• 30:51
  Speaker 12: Absolutely.
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: And I know what you're saying there.
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: Absolutely.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: So why is it wrong for the police department to
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: have a tool to apprehend criminals in the community in
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: which I live, which I would support?
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: There's nothing wrong with that.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: But you want to come forward.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: They can be abused very easily. And you say they
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: don't have time to watch everybody. Of course they don't.
• 31:16
  Speaker 13: But AI does.
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: The data centers do.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Well, these aren't data centers. Flock cameras have been around
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: a long time before data centers have been around.
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: And they can't tie those flock cameras into the data
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: centers and record absolutely everything all the time and compile
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: lists of whatever they want to now?
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Of what? What are you worried about them compiling? Are
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: you worried about them compiling a list that you went
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: to Giant Eagle, Five Guys, and then you also got
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Ice Cream at Handles? Do you honestly think anybody gives
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: a damn about that with you?
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: Ron, it is surveillance, and it can be abused under
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: the wrong administration.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I guess we should do it.
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: You haven't watched any movies about the future.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Have you?
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Thanks. You're on the air. Some people are just paranoid.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: This is crazy. Hello?
• 32:13
  Speaker 10: Hello?
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 32:15
  Speaker 19: Calm down, Ron. You've had a couple of days where
• 32:19
  Speaker 19: you're really getting riled up here.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I know. It's not good for my ticker at my age.
• 32:24
  Speaker 19: No, it is not. But honestly, you have a point
• 32:27
  Speaker 19: and they have a point.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think they have a point because they
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: want to deal with the, it could be, what if,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: what if this happens or whatever. I'm dealing with the
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: reality right here, right now, what they use for and
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: what the law is. I'm not dealing with paranoid speculation
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: on it. I'm dealing that if a child is abducted
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: in Austintown, this can help save that child because we
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: can know where this car is. Or somebody is coming
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: into town who just killed somebody. This is what flock
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: cameras are used for.
• 33:00
  Speaker 19: Yes, but with anything, it could be the start of
• 33:03
  Speaker 19: something more. That's all the people that are calling are
• 33:05
  Speaker 19: trying to say. You know, like anything, like, you know, look,
• 33:08
  Speaker 19: you know, you can go to any subject. When they
• 33:10
  Speaker 19: said about women's rights, okay? And they said, oh, they
• 33:14
  Speaker 19: have a right over their body, which, you know, does
• 33:17
  Speaker 19: make sense. But they've taken it all the way to
• 33:20
  Speaker 19: the extreme now. You can kill your baby at nine months.
• 33:24
  Speaker 19: So it's a step that they're taking no matter which
• 33:27
  Speaker 19: area you talk about, whether it's health care, whether it's
• 33:33
  Speaker 19: gas gouging, whether.
• 33:34
  Speaker 13: It's the war.
• 33:35
  Speaker 19: You know, there's always more than one point. And that's
• 33:38
  Speaker 19: all people are saying. Something gets a start, and then
• 33:40
  Speaker 19: before you know it, it gets full-blown. And then we've
• 33:43
  Speaker 19: lost everything. There's no going back. I agree with you.
• 33:46
  Speaker 19: It's a good safety thing for children. God forbid if
• 33:49
  Speaker 19: they're abducted. If it was your child or anybody's child,
• 33:51
  Speaker 19: you would want that person to be caught. Now, in
• 33:54
  Speaker 19: my situation, I have, you know, I'm going to say
• 33:57
  Speaker 19: two different, it's going to sound like I'm talking about
• 33:59
  Speaker 19: both sides of my mouth, but I'm just trying to
• 34:01
  Speaker 19: make a point. I called because I had gotten one
• 34:05
  Speaker 19: of those tickets with the, Not where the police come
• 34:09
  Speaker 19: to your car, but with a camera.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:12
  Speaker 19: I was going 34, so it said, and a 20
• 34:17
  Speaker 19: at the college area.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:18
  Speaker 19: And so I called and I asked, you know, Beatrice,
• 34:22
  Speaker 19: you know, that day on Thursday when they talked about
• 34:24
  Speaker 19: if you have any questions. And different people gave different
• 34:27
  Speaker 19: comments that... that evening when I said, should I pay
• 34:31
  Speaker 19: it or not? I'm responsible. I did realize I was
• 34:35
  Speaker 19: going over. Do I pay it or, you know, should
• 34:38
  Speaker 19: I not? And they said, well, David Beatrice said you
• 34:41
  Speaker 19: shouldn't because when he said I wouldn't pay it, you know,
• 34:44
  Speaker 19: so then I didn't pay it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 34:46
  Speaker 19: I took his advice. I didn't pay it. Then next
• 34:49
  Speaker 19: thing you know, a couple of months go by every month.
• 34:51
  Speaker 19: I didn't pay it. It's $ 20 added on $ 20.
• 34:52
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 34:53
  Speaker 19: So the point is, you know, I have a conscience
• 34:58
  Speaker 19: and I wanted to do the right thing. I wanted
• 35:00
  Speaker 19: to admit that I was going over. Was it right
• 35:02
  Speaker 19: that they didn't physically give me a ticket? You know,
• 35:05
  Speaker 19: I have mixed feelings on that. But anyway, so I
• 35:07
  Speaker 19: did call and I asked about it just for people
• 35:10
  Speaker 19: that this may happen to. I'm giving what happened to me.
• 35:13
  Speaker 19: They could do what they want. But you brought this
• 35:15
  Speaker 19: up the other day saying one guy was bragging that
• 35:18
  Speaker 19: he got nine of them and he didn't pay any
• 35:20
  Speaker 19: of them. Well, the point with that is That's causing irresponsibility.
• 35:25
  Speaker 19: If you get a ticket, no matter which way you
• 35:27
  Speaker 19: get it, pay it. You did something wrong.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Listen, you can do whatever you want to do on them.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: You're asking a legal question. And from a legal question standpoint,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: just so you understand. When you get that ticket, if
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: you don't pay it, nothing's going to happen to you.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: They're going to send you a letter saying the fee
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: goes up or the fee goes up or it's going
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: to go to collection and nothing's going to happen. That's
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the answer from a legal standpoint if you own your
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: car and you're not leasing your car. If you lease
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: your car, you better pay it because when the lease
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: is due, you're going to have to pay it. So
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: that's what the answer is from a legal standpoint. So, no,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: you will you be quiet? You can you can choose.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: You have that. You don't have to call us. You
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: could pay it. You could pay the fine. You can
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: do whatever you choose to do. You have the freedom
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: to do that. They're merely understand and telling you what
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: the law is and what the ramifications are, which, since
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I host that show, was what your question was. Which
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: is exactly what you ask, and now you're bitching about
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: the answer.
• 36:34
  Speaker 13: No, no, I'm not. Yes, you are.
• 36:36
  Speaker 19: No, listen, please, don't interrupt. I'm trying to tell you
• 36:39
  Speaker 19: what happened. I didn't finish the story. When I called,
• 36:41
  Speaker 19: I asked questions, and the police officer said that it
• 36:46
  Speaker 19: was an Ohio police constitution that it is legal you
• 36:49
  Speaker 19: have to pay it so i told him i'm a
• 36:52
  Speaker 19: i'm a senior citizen i'm on oh for.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: The love of god i remember your call you got
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: a camera ticket right.
• 37:01
  Speaker 19: Yes but the point is i did pay it and
• 37:02
  Speaker 19: they reduced they took off that okay great i don't
• 37:05
  Speaker 19: care but you should care i don't.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Care I honest to God, listen to me, sit down.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I don't care what you do with it. I don't
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: care if you don't pay it. I don't care if
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: you do pay it. You can make it's freedom. You
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: can do what you want in your world. I've said
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: this a million times, but you don't comprehend it. Your
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: call was a legal call. What happens if I don't
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: pay it? It was answered by saying, do you lease
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: your car? No, I own my car. That is what
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: you said. So if you don't pay it, here's the process.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: They'll say that you owe more money. And then they'll say,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: after that, you're going to collections. And if you don't
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: pay it, nothing happens. There's no points to go on
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: your driver's license. It's not going to increase your insurance.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: They answered your question from a legal standpoint. Now, the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: final decision, as they said, incidentally, on a call was,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: you can choose to pay it or not. It's up
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: to you. And if you said to them, would you
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: pay it? And they said, no, that's their decision. So
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: what are you calling me and bitching about?
• 38:12
  Speaker 19: I'm not bitching, Ron. I'm trying to explain.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: And maybe next time, you know, what's the benefits, as
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I say on that show, as I will say to you?
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Guess what? Here's the benefits of the cameras. They do
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: get people to slow down. The reality is when people
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: know they're there, they do slow down. And so they
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: are effective on it. And there you have it. But
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: this is not what a flock camera is. So I'm
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: not here to talk about your speeding ticket or these
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: camera tickets. I'm talking about flock cameras in the community
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: in which I live, which are there to catch criminals.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: There's no more speculating, oh, they could do this, they
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: could do that. None of that's happening. None of that's
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: in the law. None of that is what it's used for.
• 39:00
  Speaker 19: Can I ask you something, Ron? While we're on the subject, okay,
• 39:04
  Speaker 19: you made a comment about if you rent your car. Now,
• 39:08
  Speaker 19: do you think that's right? If you're renting your car
• 39:10
  Speaker 19: or leasing it or whatever, you don't have to pay it.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Why is that? Because you don't own your vehicle because
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: it's a leased car and the license plate is owned
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: by the leasing company. And as a result of that,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: it goes against them because you were driving it and
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: you have to pay it. That's why. Thanks for your call.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Honest to God, I'm on the verge of a nervous breakdown.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, right here, she must forget I host that
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: show with the attorneys. I remember her call and what
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: she said. Well, what happens if I don't pay it? Well,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: here's your answer. So she can choose to pay it. Hey, listen,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: the bottom line is, in all reality, if you know
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: they're there, you shouldn't be speeding. Now, it's different if
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: a cop... But see, this clouds the discussion because I'm
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: not here to talk about camera tickets. I'm here to
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: talk about flock cameras, a totally different thing that has
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with you speeding. Nothing. It has everything
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: to do with you as a criminal. And criminals should...
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Fear flock cameras. The police don't care what you're doing.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: You're on air.
• 40:22
  Speaker 20: Hey, how you doing?
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: You know what they say in Youngstown, don't you?
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: Get the flock out of here. We don't want them cameras.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Why don't you?
• 40:34
  Speaker 21: Because the longer it takes for them to solve a crime,
• 40:37
  Speaker 21: the more overtime the police and the detectives make.
• 40:40
  Speaker 13: They don't care about anything else.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Well, that's foolish. That's why they have flock cameras.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but have you ever dealt with the
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: city of Youngstown?
• 40:50
  Speaker 13: They're foolish.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:53
  Speaker 13: I'm going to give you a phone number.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: 330-742-8911.
• 40:57
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 40:58
  Speaker 13: If you could have someone call that.
• 41:02
  Speaker 12: I bet you the voice box is.
• 41:05
  Speaker 21: Filled, and we can't take your call right now.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't even know what the number's for.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: The Youngstown detectives.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: All right, so they're busy. I don't know if you
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: know there's a lot of crime in Youngstown.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: For four weeks?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know. What crime are you... What crime do
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: you have? What's going on?
• 41:26
  Speaker 21: I got a rental property.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh. Stand by.
• 41:30
  Speaker 21: The guy's stealing the aluminum.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Stand by. I want to hear this in a minute.
• 41:37
  Speaker 12: News Radio 570.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Go ahead with your.
• 41:45
  Speaker 21: The issue was the neighbors called and said the siding
• 41:48
  Speaker 21: is getting ripped off of your house. So I went
• 41:50
  Speaker 21: down there. The next-door neighbor comes pulling in when the
• 41:55
  Speaker 21: cops showed up, and he was the one who was
• 41:58
  Speaker 21: stealing the siding. So two people saw him stealing the siding.
• 42:04
  Speaker 13: I'm there.
• 42:05
  Speaker 21: He says, I got permission to remove the siding off
• 42:08
  Speaker 21: this house.
• 42:09
  Speaker 13: And I said, I'm the owner.
• 42:10
  Speaker 21: I didn't give no permission. So the police wrote out
• 42:12
  Speaker 21: an incident report. You could go down in three days
• 42:15
  Speaker 21: and get a police report. So I went down like
• 42:18
  Speaker 21: an idiot and got a police report. Don't go there
• 42:21
  Speaker 21: at lunchtime, by the way.
• 42:22
  Speaker 13: They all go out to lunch, can't get a police report.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Can you get to the point? I don't care about
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: any of this except the point.
• 42:28
  Speaker 21: Okay, the point is try to make a case against him.
• 42:33
  Speaker 13: Call the prosecutor. Call the detectives. You can't call the detectives.
• 42:36
  Speaker 21: The phone's been full for four weeks now. And what
• 42:40
  Speaker 21: am I supposed to do? Called the mayor's office, pushed
• 42:44
  Speaker 21: the button for one for mayor, rings, rings, rings, no
• 42:47
  Speaker 21: one even answers it. I mean, the city's a joke.
• 42:50
  Speaker 21: It's like that Sobe thing.
• 42:52
  Speaker 13: Oh, we don't want it. But now that they have to.
• 42:54
  Speaker 21: Pay their increase in prices, maybe we should have took
• 42:56
  Speaker 21: the Sobe thing. I mean, all this stuff, Youngstown is like,
• 43:02
  Speaker 21: you know, time lost a long time ago.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Well, why don't you move?
• 43:06
  Speaker 20: I don't live there.
• 43:07
  Speaker 13: It's just a rental property.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. So you did move.
• 43:09
  Speaker 12: 30 years ago.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: All right. So why don't you sell your rental property?
• 43:20
  Speaker 21: Well, that's another one.
• 43:21
  Speaker 12: It was up for sale.
• 43:22
  Speaker 21: I had a contract to finish it up, but they
• 43:26
  Speaker 21: took the siding off before and did about $ 30, 000 damage,
• 43:28
  Speaker 21: according to the estimate. Then it was vacant at the
• 43:32
  Speaker 21: time for about six weeks. The insurance company won't kick in.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Because they can't insure vacant houses. Right, exactly right.
• 43:39
  Speaker 21: Yeah, it's exactly right, but the city's exactly wrong.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Well, you've got to be. You're saying, hey, somebody was
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: standing on a siding, you were there, and then you
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: should pursue it, obviously. Go down and talk. You need
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: to physically go down, talk to the police chief, talk
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: to the mayor, go to the office, try to ask
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: your question and listen. Don't be an a-hole and see
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: what the answer is. And then go to the prosecutor's office.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: That's what I would suggest you do. This has nothing
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: to do with my discussion on flock cameras, though. I
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: appreciate your call. We'll pause momentarily. on News Radio 570
• 44:10
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• 44:14
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• 44:16
  Speaker 2: 330-729-9977 will get you through to me. 330-729-9977. We'll get
• 44:24
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• 44:27
  Speaker 2: to confuse everything. Well, speeding cameras, it's a whole different subject.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: This guy with his problem with the police department, a
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: whole different subject. I'm merely talking about flock cameras in
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: my community in the city of Canfield that make your
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: police officers more efficient and a bunch of paranoid people
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: who think there's more to them than there happens to be.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: And there isn't. And that's ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. We'll be
• 44:50
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  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: All right, 405 NewsRadio 570 WKBN and Ron Verb, 82 degrees.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Who let you in?
• 49:03
  Speaker 12: Me?
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: I thought that door was locked.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: Well, I have friends here. I was listening to you yesterday.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, get close to that microphone if you wouldn't mind.
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  Speaker 3: I was listening to you yesterday when you had your meltdown.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: With G2 and Tech.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, your meltdown.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: But first of all, it was great radio. Second of all,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: I figured you needed a hug. So me being the
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: world's greatest hugger, I thought I'd come in and see
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: if that was the case. And then I listened to
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: you about the flock cameras today. And you're still off
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: the rails. So what's up with you, man?
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: What do you mean off the rails? You think I'm
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: on the verge of a nervous breakdown?
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: I think you're past it. I think you've already done it.
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  Speaker 3: You've bottomed out and you're trying to dig yourself out.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: You're telling me as a friend you came out of
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: here out of concern for me?
• 49:44
  Speaker 29: Yeah.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: I want to give you a hug, see if that
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: would help you out. But no, I don't think that's
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: the case, right?
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like I need a hug right now.
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you don't.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: I can just see it. You're just not the same.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: And now you're on to these flock things.
• 49:58
  Speaker 24: Yeah.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: So sell me on why it's good. And I'll give
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: you my point.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: First of all, you live in Canfield, right?
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: Yes, I do.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Well, first and foremost, I don't know if I'm worthy
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: even to talk to you now. You're close.
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: You're, what, 500 feet away?
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Come on. Well, the reality is Canfield already has them.
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: Sure they do.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: So has it affected your life at all?
• 50:21
  Speaker 29: No.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: I am not going to argue your point. It doesn't
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: affect my life. Here's my point on it. When they
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: passed the Patriot Act, Did you think that it had
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: everything in it that it did? They told you that
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: it was just to find terrorists. Remember, that's all we're
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: going to use the Patriot Act for. We're just going
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: to go out and find terrorists. The regular person doesn't
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: have to know or doesn't have to worry about it.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: And then Mr.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Snowden comes out as the whistleblower and says, hey, because
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: he had a conscience. And he said, hey, you don't
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: understand what's really going on here. Every single one of
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: your conversations is being recorded. Every single one.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: They took it to Congress.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: If you're out there and you want to see a really,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: really good documentary, it's called Citizen Four.
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: It's with Snowden.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: And right after it happened and he had to leave
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: the country and he was over in England, I believe,
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: at that time, and then he went to Russia. But
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: he explains exactly what went on and how they went
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: after him. And if it wasn't for him, we would
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: still think the Patriot Act was a really good thing.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: So my point to you is I don't think you
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: trust government, do you?
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't totally trust government.
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: Then why are you saying that the flaw cameras are good?
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Because the government says on the police chief vows that
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: they will not be misused.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Because if you take a look at, for example, there's
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: a couple of answers to that question. First of all,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I want to start... Yes, correct ones. First, I want
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: to start with driving is a privilege, not a right.
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: Gotcha.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: You have to go get a license plate to drive
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: and a driver's license to drive. Flock cameras take a
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: picture of just as if you're at a traffic light
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: and a cop's behind you, you can run your plate
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: right then and there. He doesn't need a reason to.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: He can just run it right then and there to see...
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Are you on suspension? What's good? What's going on with
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: that car? Is it stolen? As they often do right
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: there with a computer on it. It's called a leads
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: computer that they have in their car. And if you're
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: caught abusing that system and some cops have been abusing
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: that system, you're fired in their ramifications. It's against the law,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: serious penalties against the law, just as there are with
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: flock cameras that if you're caught and we've had some
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: cops that have used them for personal reasons, You know,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: find out where their girlfriend was going and this kind
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: of stuff. And because you have a login or signed in,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: it's obvious what was going on. And guess what happens
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: to them? Serious trouble. It's against the law. You lose
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: your job. So there are ramifications to this. But it's
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: very rare. I mean, I think most people would agree
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: the vast majority of cops are criminals. Pretty honorable people.
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: I'm a blue guy. I'm all for the police.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Really? You looked a little brown to me here with
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: that tan. You don't look like a blue guy to me.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: But anyway, so that is what they're used for. Now,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: flock cameras, Niles has them. Canfield has them. Boardman has them.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I've never felt violated when I went to any of
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: those communities.
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: Did you feel.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: Violated with your cell phone when the Patriot Act was implemented?
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: No, no. You didn't? Here's a strange thing.
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: Do you care that your conversations are being recorded?
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: You're asking me when my conversations are here? Do you
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: really think? Okay, probably not the best point. You go
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: ask me that question again. Do I care? You see,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this, but someone told
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: me we broadcast this nonsense.
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: Is that what it said?
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: So most of my conversations are already public. You know
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: what I mean? But like I say.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: Dan Ryan didn't have to worry about it.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: His conversations were public too, I think. They might have been.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: But here's the reality. It's technology. And as I say,
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: if you go into Walmart, you're on camera because of shoplifters.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: You're not going to have your privacy.
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: I don't have a problem.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: They're going to watch you. And guess what? Wait a minute.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: You're going to be watched in a parking lot, too.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: They have cameras out there.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: I don't have a problem with that. That's their property.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: And that's right. And guess what? I might have ring
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: cameras at my house.
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: That's your property.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: And I can watch you.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: But that's only you.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: No, I have it. A lot of times the cops
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: go down and say, hey. We had an issue down here.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Can we look at your video?
• 54:35
  Speaker 24: Sure.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: And people say, okay. But it's your property. These are
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: the public highways that we're talking about. These are our roadways.
• 54:41
  Speaker 12: Our roadways.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Your roadways and my roadways. That the police are in
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: charge of patrolling.
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: That we pay for. Right.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: And crime and the flock cameras are a modern technology tool,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: just as a computer in a police car is a tool,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: just as a radar gun is a tool. This is
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: technology that has advanced over the years so that we
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: can take your speed. We can run your plates. We
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: can see if a cop stops a car. Is there
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: a warrant out for you or something along those lines?
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: That's technology. We're not invading your privacy. So flat cameras
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: take a picture of your license plate as you drive by.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: And guess what? If we're looking for a stolen car
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: or your car is stolen, it's going to send out
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: an alert. If you just robbed a bank and a
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: guy like you, I could see a guy like you
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: robbing a bank. You look like a bank robber to me.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: And you got away with it, right? Because there weren't
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: flat cameras.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: I have a mask of you when I walk in
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: so the cameras see that you're actually robbing.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: But it was your license plate.
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: And the cameras broke when they saw your face.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, yes, it does happen. Seven years of bad luck.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: That's where you got 14 now. Yeah. So anyway, people
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: want to speculate and say this is terrible. And this
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: is a tool for my local police departments to be
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: more efficient and to keep crime down in my community.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Should I make a comparison? Oh, it's going to be
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: like what the NSA does or what Snowden said. You can't.
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: That's my point.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: You can't make that because– Then we should say we're
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: going to do away with all of this stuff. But
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: we're not doing that with technology. We're using it as
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: a tool to get guys like you when guys like
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: you are shoplifting from Walmart. And I can see you
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: shoplifting from Walmart.
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: Their prices are too high. I'm going to check out myself,
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: so I take my discount.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, on that kind of stuff. So these are tools.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: The people that are against flat cameras are always saying,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: what if this? Or what about this? What about that? Well,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: those what abouts, my counter to that is, what if
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: none of that happens? I don't have a what about.
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: I'm not complaining about that.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: I think everything you said is valid.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: I know, but you want to say, well, what about this?
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: What about that?
• 56:55
  Speaker 10: Well, no.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: What about if that doesn't happen? Let's deal with the reality.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: What is the current law? What are they currently used for?
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: And how effective are they? Have you avoided going to
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Niles because of flight cameras?
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: No, I was just there yesterday. I'm going there as
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: soon as I leave here.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: It might not be a good idea for you to
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: go there. We can get your plate and that kind
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: of stuff. It's okay.
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: I have my Ronverb mask. I'm fine.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Right, right. But that is..
• 57:18
  Speaker 26: As I..
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Like I say, there were six cameras in Austintown. I
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: wish they would get more quite front. They're not traffic cameras.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: They're not going to get you for speeding. But if
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: your car is stolen... Or there's to be on the
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: lookout for a guy like you. Let's say you just
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: robbed a bank or abducted a child.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: This is going to help us quickly find out.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Where you are. Robberies, assaults, property crimes. So this will
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: help the cops find you and stop crime in your neighborhood. Now,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: I realize you live in Canfield, and in Canfield there
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: is no crime. I understand that.
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: There is crime in Canfield. They just don't– you just
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: don't find out about it.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: I doubt if there's any serious crime. Maybe during Halloween
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: and a kid soaps your windows because you have the
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: lights out and you don't give out anything. But that's–
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: so someone breaks in your house and does that. These
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: are great things.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Everything you're saying is true. I don't have a problem
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: with anything you're saying. My problem is this. Screw me
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: over once, shame on you. Screw me over twice, shame
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: on me.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Well, they haven't screwed you over on flat cameras, have they?
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: No, they're government, so I don't trust them. End of story.
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, to me, that's it.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Well, the police department is the government. The fire department
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: is the government.
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: Then too bad. I got to say no.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Do you trust them?
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: I trust them to do their job.
• 58:42
  Speaker 30: Right.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Not with implementing things like this. Are you for artificial intelligence?
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: I have artificial intelligence.
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: You're a robot. That's what it is. I couldn't figure out.
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: You're a damn robot.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I'm going to tell you.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: AI has its positives and its negatives, just like the Internet. See,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: this is what people fail to realize. We all use
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: the Internet, do we not? The Internet is a wonderful tool,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: but also... all the evilness of the world can come
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: into your household too so you have you have people
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: that's engaged in that evilness and guess what that that's
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: part of the internet but should we eliminate the internet
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: because some people use it for that No.
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: Internet's not a government thing.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Right, but that's the Internet that we have out there.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: So you can use anything for good and bad. The
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: technology is a good thing. This cell phone tells anybody
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: where I'm at.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: And you could thank the Patriot Act for that.
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: And you could thank your government lying to you.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Actually, I'm going to tell you, I know exactly who
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: to thank for this. I actually, believe it or not.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: Wait a second here. I want to get on the
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: edge of my seat. Go ahead, Ronald.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: I actually, actually, personally know the guy that's invented the
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: GPS on cell phones.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: And his name?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: His first name is Tim.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: Tim?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Personally, no. And he was a guy that's Must be
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: a genius. And a wealthy one.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess so.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have to worry about gas prices.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: But the cops have their own logins. You've got to
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: put in a reason for the search. They're logged in,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: so if an officer uses it for something they shouldn't
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: be using it for, there's a record of it, and
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: you can get in trouble for abusing it. It doesn't
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: do facial recognition. You've got some notes here from Officer
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Eric Verb.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay. Hello, Eric. Just one more thing. So if
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: you had No, I don't want to go that way.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: My thing is this.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: What kind of loss have you broken? Is there something
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: you want to confess to?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: That you're so paranoid of flat cameras?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: And what have you done lately?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: Ex-husbands. Ex-husbands.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Are you stealing stuff?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: Like that clop.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Have you stole like those chrome balls out of people's yards?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 13: No.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Pink flamingos? No.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: I got the air fresheners out of your truck when
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: I came in.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: They weren't any good anyway. Have you smelled the air?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: Like five years old.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Well, the only thing you're going to smell in there
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: is the remnants of a Chipotle.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: Here's why I came in. You were saying that people
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: are going crazy.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: You thought I was having a nervous breakdown.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: Well, that, yeah.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: I wanted to come in yesterday. But you, I was
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: really worried about yesterday. I thought you were off the rails.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: I just think that if you were saying about how
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: that people are going, you know, they're going berserk or they're,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: what was the word you used?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: They were crazy about the.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Inflation?
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: No, no, no. About the. The cameras.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: They have all these conspiracy theories about it.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: Okay. So my point is it's not a conspiracy theory
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: with me.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Well, there's people that have conspiracy theories about ring cameras.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: They're always watching you.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: Well, they're always listening to you with Alexa. That's proven. So, yeah.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: And Alexa says.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: To me, we're listening and you're not that interesting. That's
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: what Alexa said to me.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 15: Right.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: I said, if I wouldn't be treated like that, I'll
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: ask my wife. Yeah. She won't answer you, though. But
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: I think she might think the same thing.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: So my point is I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: just don't– after the Patriot Act, I went to school.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to do the shame on me on
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: the second time.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: I don't trust government. I really don't.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: Are the flock hammers good? We'll know in a year
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: or two when everything shakes out.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Well, they've been around a long time.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but maybe– You've been in Canfield. They've had them
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: for a while.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: If it wasn't for Snowden– We might not ever know
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: about the Patriot Act. If there wasn't a whistleblower, maybe
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: there will need to be a whistleblower about this or
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: artificial intelligence, whatever. If the government's involved and their lips
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: are moving, when you watch the Capitol here, if you
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: have two politicians on each side of the aisle and
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: they're both talking and giving an argument, you know one
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: of them is lying and one of them might be
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: telling somewhat of the truth. So I don't trust anybody there.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: I don't trust anybody with technology in the government and
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: I don't trust them when they say, oh, no, this
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: is fine.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: You trust us. We're the government. We wouldn't do anything
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: bad to you. Yeah, they would. Patriot Act. That's my point.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: I'm not a conspiracy theorist. That's what I look at.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: I think you're a paranoid nut. I think you're a
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: paranoid nut.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: My mom had me tested.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 25: No.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: I think that you're on the verge of flipping out.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: See, I'm like you yesterday.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: He was perfectly calm yesterday and perfectly calm today. You
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: were calm.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: My butt, you were calm. You were nuts yesterday.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: It was a fiery exchange with G2 and Ted the Conservative.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: I was going to call an ambulance to get him
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: in here. Put a net over you.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: You know what? We can disagree and we can still
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: part friends.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 15: Yes.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: I can with Ted and G2. Now you, on the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: other hand.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: But I could do it.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: I could part friends with you and say, you know...
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to give my opinion, and I might
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: not be right. It's just my opinion.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: It's just the way I think.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: When was the last time you were ever right?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: What year is it?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Decade. Exactly my point. Century. I'll say to you what
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: I say to everybody. The government, if they're monitoring you
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: and want you to know something, you're not that interesting.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 12: Yeah, right.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Not that interesting.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: That's why they have laws. So you're telling me.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: So go ahead and ask me that question again. Go
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: ahead and ask me that question again. How would I
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: feel about it if my phone conversations were public?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: Ron, how would you feel about it if your phone
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: conversations went public?
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: They are. Okay. Now, when that question was half out,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: did you come to think that might be the dumbest
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: question I've ever asked?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: How are your phone conversations public?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: You're on the air.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: No, cell phone conversations.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: These are my phone conversations.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: No, your cell phone conversations.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: See, look what he's doing, audience. He's trying to spin
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: this now in a way that it's going to..
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: These are my conversations. I just had a conversation with you.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: It's verbiage that he's using here that's kind of sliding
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: in his way.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: My conversation with you was public, was it not?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: I find you reprehensible today, Mr.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 7: Burr.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: You can't even spell it. Go ahead, you're on air.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 12: Is that me?
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is, sir.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 13: Who you got in the studio with you?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: Teddy McCuggan.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Homie Cheese.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 13: My name's Emmanuel. I'm from Warren, Ohio. You need to
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 13: talk to your athletic director and put us on the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 13: football schedule. Y'all scared to play us.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 6: But, Ron.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: They are really scared to play you. I agree with that.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: Who, Canfield?
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Cardinals.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah. You want to play Harding.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Are they Division II or I now?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Stand by, Emmanuel. Stand by. Stand by. Get to the
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: bottom of this, and I'll take more calls. 422 from
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  Speaker 2: the Kingdom of Mahoning, Ron Furman.
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  Speaker 1: This is Bill Wither and Talk Station 570 WKBN. All right.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Go ahead. You're talking about the Cardinals taking on..
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 15: Harding?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 12: The Raiders.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, the Raiders.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 13: We're a small division, too, but we just play the
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 13: Maslins and the Kent McKinleys. We play you guys in basketball.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 13: We play you guys in volleyball. We swim against you guys.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 13: We play you guys in baseball. You should at least
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 13: scrimmage us. But I got to give you credit. You
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 13: guys have one heck of a dog on band night.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 13: I love going out to see you guys band night.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 13: You treat us nice when we go there. You have
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 13: good food and good entertainment. So I'm going to give
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 13: you guys a can of food credit for that.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: And I want to chime in here and say that
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: band members are the most underappreciated kids in school. They
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: work their butts off all summer just like the football
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: team does to get their precision down. And they never
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: get the credit that's due. Now, if you want to
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: go to Wisconsin and some parts of Illinois and Minnesota,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: they don't care about the football games up there. They
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: go to see the halftime shows. They're all military precision
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: bands up there.
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  Speaker 2: You know, my goal in life is to dot the I.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: At Ohio State?
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: No, at Youngstown State. What do you mean at Ohio State?
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: Youngstown.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know you, man.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: There's no I.
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  Speaker 13: My daughter's a sophomore at Ohio State.
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  Speaker 5: What's that?
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 13: She just went back. My daughter's a sophomore at Ohio State.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 13: She just went back.
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  Speaker 18: Mm-hmm.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 13: And my oldest daughter lives in Wisconsin.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: What's your oldest daughter? Is your oldest daughter a dairy farmer?
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: She's in Wisconsin.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 13: Listen, man, I love my daughter just like you love yours.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 13: And that's the same one that they're crazy about you.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 13: Every time they see you, whether it's the Italian Fest
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 13: or the Greek Fest, they think you walk on water.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 13: And I don't understand that.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: I don't either.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: You know that's there but there's nothing i enjoy more
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: though there's nothing i enjoy more than seeing uh emmanuel
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: at the greek fest or the italian fest and i
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: say go figure i never knew you were greek or
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: italian he doesn't sound greek but that's my favorite line
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: whenever i see him at the greek italian fest.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 13: I never knew i never knew.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: You were italian emmanuel i never knew it when I
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: see you there.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 13: Okay, now let's get serious, okay?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 13: I've been listening to you over two decades, Ron. And
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 13: I've got to say this. About these flop cameras, you
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 13: are being so hypocritical, it is a shame.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 26: Thank you.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 13: I'm going to tell you why.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 12: Thank you.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 26: Go ahead.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 13: Now, I'm going to tell you why. Now, you're calling
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 13: people paranoid and this and that and whatever, right? But
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 13: over the last 20 years, the last 20 years, when
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 13: someone said we need to ban assault weapons, well, what
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 13: about the super assault? They're going to start with the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 13: assault weapons, then they're going to go get this, they're
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 13: going to go get that. That's you, Ron. You've been
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 13: saying that over a thousand times. So when I say...
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 13: When I say... I don't want the cameras for one reason,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 13: one reason only. I'm going to fight big boy to
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 13: my last breath. They're not going to be watching over me.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: Sir, are you a criminal? Are you committing crime?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 13: Talking to you? Yeah. Every time I talk to you,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 13: I'm breaking the law of physics.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Because you have nothing to fear from a flock camera.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: For example, God forbid, God forbid. Let me ask you
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: a question. I want to ask you a question. Let's
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: say somebody stole somebody stole your 1985 Ford pickup truck.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: Is that about right? You probably have an 85 Ford
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: pickup truck.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 13: No, I got a 76. Go ahead.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Let's say somebody stole your 1976 Ford pickup truck.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Would you want the floor? Yeah. Do you have a
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: license plate on your vehicle? Sometimes. Sometimes. Okay.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: Is it current?
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Do you own a license plate that would be yours
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: on your vehicle?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah. It's beautiful. Is the vehicle.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: Leased or owned? Now, I'm not done with my questioning.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: Would you want us to recover your 1976 Ford pickup
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: truck with our flock cameras as it was being stolen
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: by someone in your community?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 13: Okay, let me tell you how I feel about this.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 12: All right?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: Now, I realize, let me preface the question. I realize
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: probably the person that stole that truck will get in
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: and realize there's less than a quarter a tank of
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: gas in it. So how far are they going to
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: get anyway, right?
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 13: Yeah, if somebody robbed me, it's just for practice and
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 13: they ain't getting no money.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: It's a 76, man. He doesn't even have gas in
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: there anymore.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: He just tore out the floorboards and he's got a
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: Flintstone mobile now.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: I've had enough of you. I can't take you anymore.
• 1:11:50
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead. You wanted to say something to me, Emanuel.
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  Speaker 13: Okay, well... I've seen when a child gets snatched up,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 13: the Amber Alert goes up to people's phones, through their TV,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 13: through radio, through everything. And I can remember not too
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 13: long ago, about six months ago, a police officer from
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 13: another county, Came here, got in a car accident, did
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 13: some shooting. They put his car out. They put his
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 13: name out. They put a picture of him. And before
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 13: you know it, this guy was arrested in your town,
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  Speaker 13: Austin County.
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  Speaker 15: Is that right?
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  Speaker 13: So we don't need Big Brother watching everything we do.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 13: Because I'm going to say the slippery slope. You call
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 13: me paranoid. Were you paranoid about this?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: You're paranoid. You're a paranoid nut. I wanted to call
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: you something more than paranoid, so I'm going to call
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: you a paranoid nut.
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  Speaker 9: Okay.
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  Speaker 13: My girl will like that. I'm going to tell her
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 13: that when I see her.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you need a nut, and sometimes you don't.
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  Speaker 13: Last thing. This is the last thing. I'm going to go.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 13: After this, I'm going to go. The next time that
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 13: me and you talk, I want you to get ready.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 13: I'm going to ask you.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: To dance? You're going to ask me to dance, aren't you?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 13: No, no, no, no. Bubba Canoes asked me to dance.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 13: I wouldn't dance with him either.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: Remember?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: It was really odd, though, like I say, when I
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: saw him at the Greek Fest, and I said, Emmanuel,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: I never knew you were Greek.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 13: But I'm going to ask you this, right? The next
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 13: time we talk, I want you to explain to me,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 13: I looked at all these campaign speeches from Mr. Trump,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 13: Donald Trump, our president, about what he wasn't going to
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 13: do and what he's going to do. I'm going to
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 13: ask you, how do you feel about What he said
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 13: to get elected and what he's.
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  Speaker 2: Doing right now. I'm going to hang up. You call
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: me next time because I'm very disappointed. Thank you. Thank you.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: I'm very disappointed. Listen, I don't take away all the
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: good stuff Trump did as far as the border. And
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: he needs to do more with the border. The border
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: is secure. He needs to do more in getting people
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: out of this country. I don't take that away from him.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: I don't take away from him the good things that
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: he's done, but this war situation, I totally disagree with
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: him on. You don't have to approve of something that
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: somebody does 100% of everything. So when it comes to Trump,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't vote for Kamala Harris. I wouldn't vote for Biden.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't vote for Gavin Newsom. Obviously, I voted for Trump,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: and he'd be done, but he's disappointed me with what
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: he's done lately. He's lost track of the American agenda.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: And I'm an American. You're on the air. Hi, Ron. Oh,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: it's Jay. Excuse me. It's JJ the Trumpster.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know what I am anymore.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 9: I have no problem with the, you know, the, I mean,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 9: I don't really give a flock about the flock, you know, cameras,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 9: but I mean, if it's going to save somebody's life
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 9: or it's going to stop something, you know, if I'm
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 9: not doing anything illegal, I shouldn't have to worry about it. And,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 9: you know, it seems like people are getting upset at
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 9: that when there's other things to be concerned about. But anyway,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 9: I agree with you. And that's unusual for me to
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 9: agree with you.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: You agree with me.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Boy, your medication really needs to be adjusted. He's agreeing
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: with me. I mean, geez.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm a little, but I just don't understand why
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 9: everybody's getting to, you know, their panties in a bunch
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 9: over it.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: Because they all want to go, oh, it could do this,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: it could do that, it could do that. Well, that's
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: all speculation. It isn't doing any of those things. But
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: here's the reality. If your car is stolen, it means
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: we can recover your car. If somebody apprehends your kid,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: it means the odds are much better in solving crime.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: in your community and keeping your community safe. And that,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: and when the guardrails are there, and how you would say,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: I don't want any of those benefits.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 9: So I don't know why everybody is so upset about it.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 9: I'm driving right now, and I'm down to 46, and
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 9: I guarantee there's three cameras that are seeing what I'm
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 9: doing right now. So I think people get worried about...
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 9: Certain things that, you know, it's already in place now,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 9: you know, that people are, that Big Brother's watching.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 10: So it's... Where are you going?
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: It's just, you know..
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: Where are you going to?
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 9: I'm taking my dog up to a tractor supply or tractor.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 9: It was a tractor supply where they give him his
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 9: shots and everything for a very expensive price, but generally
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 9: can go between certain hours of the month. And so
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 9: I'm on my way up there between 5 and 7
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 9: and get him his rabies shot and get my rabies
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 9: shot and get his death distemper and my distemper.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: So basically, you and the dog go in for checkups
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: at the same time. Yes, exactly.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 9: I just, you know, I got to make sure I
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 9: don't have fleas and that whole kind of thing. I
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 9: know he's doing good, but I just, you know, I
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 9: got to keep an eye on myself because, you know, once.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: You sleep with, you know, sleep with the dog.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 9: Going to wake up with something. I just don't understand
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 9: why everybody's getting so upset about it.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: Think of this, all of our listeners in Austintown know
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: to go to the tractor supply at five o'clock and
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: they can meet JJ, the Trumpster formerly known as JJ
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: the liberal.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: May I ask him a question?
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: Do you trust your government, J.J.? Do you think they
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: tell you the truth all the time?
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, he does.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: Did I say Ron? I said J.J.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: I know J.J.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 10: J.J.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: 's a trusting man.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 9: Yes, he is.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: That's why I'm talking to him. If I wanted untrusting,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: I'd talk to you.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 11: Your question was what again, sir?
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: Do you trust the government? Are they telling you the truth? Okay,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: so why do you trust them about flock cameras then?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: This is your local government.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 9: The thing is, I'm not doing anything. I understand what
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 9: you're saying, that I could be doing nothing, but I
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 9: could be put into a position where they say that
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 9: I did something, and with AI now that they can
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 9: put my face or my car somewhere where I really wasn't.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 9: So I understand your point, and it's well..
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. J.J., this guy sitting in here in
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: this studio... He's a paranoid nut, believe me when I
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: tell you.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: Don't believe him, JJ.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 9: His lips are moving.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: You know what's happening.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 9: I think we've got bigger fits to fry kind of thing.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 9: But I do understand everybody's point. But, you know, I
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 9: just said, you know, me being the criminal I am,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 9: I always got to keep a little profile.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: You better be careful because your fan base could show
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: up at 5 o'clock to see. So you would meet
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: you and your dog.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 9: They're going to come up and lynch me. That's what
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 9: they're doing. They're preparing right now to set up the,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 9: what is that called? The hangin'.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: So if you see a skinny guy with gray hair,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: then that's JJ. With his dog. What's your dog's name again? Killer.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: Isn't it Killer? Isn't your dog called?
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 9: Chance.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 26: Chance.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 9: Because I took a chance on him.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, I see how it goes.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: You know, that's what Ron's wife calls him. How about that?
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: She took a chance on me. She took a chance
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: on me.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 26: All right.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you, JJ.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 9: All right, I'll let you go. Enough of me.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: Enough of you. All right. You're a paranoid nut. Not JJ.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: JJ's a loving man, getting his dog.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: That's a great thing to take care of an animal.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: You're on air.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 33: Well, I'm not going to argue about your stance or
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 33: point of view, but I've been talking about these flock
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 33: cameras for a while now. They don't stop any crime, Ron.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: They capture criminals. It can be a deterrent, but it
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: certainly is an effective tool of the police department to
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: be more efficient.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 33: Well, that's only if you commit a crime and then
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 33: drive down the street where the flock.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 13: Camera currently is.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: That's correct.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 33: You can look at the map of where all the
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 33: flock cameras are. You know, you could go online. You
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 33: could see it looks like Mahoning County is chicken pox.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: Well, we only have six. I wish we'd get 16
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: in Austintown. I mean, I would like to see more
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: of them.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 33: I really would. If you drive, if you leave your,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 33: you know how many you go by just before you
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 33: get on 680 from your studio there?
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 12: Well, I'm in Boardman. Right.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 33: If you go down Tiffany... you'll hit two before you
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 33: even get on the 680. And they don't, like I said,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 33: they don't stop crime. They only, you know, if you're
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 33: a criminal, what do you do? Say, hey, guys, before
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 33: we go commit this crime, let's make sure we can't
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 33: do it. There's a flock camera going to watch us.
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  Speaker 2: But you know that it works. You know that it
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: helps apprehend them because we've had it done locally with communities.
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  Speaker 12: That have it.
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  Speaker 33: So you're talking about, you know, helping the police.
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  Speaker 4: OK, that's nice.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 13: But I mean, at what end?
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 33: You know, it's like you've ever heard the phrase like
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 33: the camel's nose under the tent. At what point do
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 33: we start saying, oh, well, we've got six of them
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 33: in Austin. What happens when there's 600? And then we
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 33: start looking like China. And then what if they were
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 33: around during COVID in 2020? Oh, by the way, if
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 33: you leave your house. We'll know because we have the
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 33: 600 flock cameras around. What happens during the next pandemic?
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: Well, this guy needs a bell. Ding him a bell.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: No, see, here's the problem. We're right back to the
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: what ifs. What if this? What if that? But if
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: I say to you, I'm here to deal with the
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: right nows. The right now is it does help capture criminals.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: It does capture people that are breaking the law in
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: your community and committing crimes in your community. making your
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: community safer. That is what it does. Who told you that?
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: There's regulation on it.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 33: You are focusing on this one percent, which I will tell.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: You is very good. I am focusing on the following.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: I'm focusing on how flock cameras are used, what the
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: reality is, and what the guardrails are. And I even
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: bring to your attention when the leads computer or flock
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: cameras are ever abused by officers, what the ramifications of
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: that happen to be as well. So I got all
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: of those examples.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 33: Just like the criminals, only if they're caught with the
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 33: flock cameras, only if the police officer is caught misusing
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 33: the flock cameras, only if whoever has access to the
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 33: flock cameras... Have you really dug into what the flock cameras,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 33: you keep harping on the license plate, but you don't understand,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 33: it records everything in that field of view.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: Everything.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: It does not do facial recognition. It takes a picture
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: of your license plate.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 33: No, it takes a picture of everything. It records, it might,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 33: they might. And again, this is, you're taking this one
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 33: single company's word and for what they're saying they're doing
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 33: with their information.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: I know what they do. I do know what's going
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: on with them.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 33: And you have access to the flock camera database and
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 33: their lines.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 11: Of code to understand that they're doing anything?
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: I don't have information for that. You know, Ron, I
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: would expect you to.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 33: Have a little bit more skepticism in this mass.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: Surveillance that we are in.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 14: Absolutely.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: I am not a paranoid nut. I got a paranoid
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: nut here.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: You don't have to be a paranoid nut. All you
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: got to do is remember the Patriot Act. They told
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: us it was great for us. It's going to be great.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: Don't worry about anything.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have a safer community. Because of flock cameras. Yes,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: I am. It doesn't stop crime.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 33: It doesn't stop any crime. Have you seen any data
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 33: that has come out yet to show the precipitous drop
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 33: in crimes where these cameras are located?
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: Does it help capture the criminal?
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 33: You will never find these cameras in affluent neighborhoods.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I would think that they would be
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: at main intersections, but it depends. Wait a minute now.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: They're in the city of Canfield. That whole community is
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: in a fluent neighborhood.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 12: Where? They're in Canfield.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 6: Where?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: They've got 15 or 16 of them in Canfield.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 33: Right down Route 224.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know where they are.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 12: They haven't told.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 13: Me where they are.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: Well, you're not going to put a flock..
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 33: Look at a map of Manhattan and all the flock cameras.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: I don't live in Manhattan. I live in Austintown, Ohio,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: and I'm glad we have flock cameras to catch criminals.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 33: You can't argue heads you win, tails I lose.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, I can.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 33: You've got to look at this from a wider field
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 33: of view, 30,000 feet.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to look like a paranoid.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 11: Go look at.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: A map of Manhattan.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 33: And see where the flock cameras are at and see
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 33: the big square where they're not at. It's the one
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 33: wealthy neighborhood on the east side of Manhattan. Because those
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 33: people don't want them there. Now, do you think those people,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 33: the rich people, don't want crime there?
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: The richest people in this community.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 13: They don't want to be followed and tracked.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Sir, the richest people in this community live in Canfield.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: Believe me. You know that and I know that. If
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: you're wealthy in Mahoning County, you live in Canfield. And
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: they have more flocked cameras in Canfield. They're there in
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: Canfield watching your every move if you're a criminal.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question? How many cameras do
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: you think will be acceptable?
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, we're only getting six. I wish we would have...
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: I let's see every street corner. No, I wish we
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: would have them on all the major streets. Every, every, every,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: every street. I think you need, I think you need
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: your blinds open at night. As a matter of fact,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: I do, but a lot of times, a lot of
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: times it upsets the neighbors.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: A lot of the neighbors laugh.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 33: If your neighbors look inside your house, that's what you're doing.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: As long as you're not committing a crime.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: Here's the reality. I do leave them open, but I
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: want you to know I have the air conditioning on,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: and it's very cold, okay?
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 12: It's just very cold.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: If you want to take a picture, you need a
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: telescopic lens.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's cold.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 33: No, I hear the undertones of why you want these.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 26: Yes.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 33: I hear it. I'm not going.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: To go— I would be— let me put it this way
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: to you.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 33: It's good for radio, but this is— you' ll be the first— and
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 33: you know what? Time will tell. Like most things, time
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 33: will tell.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 13: And then I.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 33: Hope, you know, it's not too long from now.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: Here, I just got word.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 13: I'll have to look back.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: Tell Alec that they're at every entry point in Canfield,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: the flock cameras. So there you go. Now, I would
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: want a flock camera. You asked me where I would
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: want them. I would want them down Mahoning Avenue. I
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: would want, bear with me, several of them on Mahoning Avenue.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: I would want them on Route 46. I would want
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: them on Kirk Road. I would want them on Raccoon Road.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: I would want them on New Road. I would want
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: them on my street on which I live. because– Your road. Yeah,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: because people driving by my house all the time. Growing eggs. Right, right.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: Like my wife says she feels she's on display. So
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: I would like that. I would like one on the
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: street in which I live. How sad. But no, I mean,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: I'm perfectly comfortable with it.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: Would you be comfortable with it if they take it
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: to the next step and go face recognition on it?
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 33: Or admit that that's what they might already be doing.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, this is the beginning, the entry stage.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: When I go to the airport, I have to get
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: my license and stand in front of a camera. There's
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: got to be some facial recognition. Well, you can opt
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: out of that. No, I can't. I can't get on
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: a plane without opting.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 8: No, I can't.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: They make me do it.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they do.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 14: No, they don't.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 13: Nope. Nope.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 33: See, that's what they want you to think, since everybody
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 33: else is doing it.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: No, I don't want to brag to you. I don't
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: want to brag to you, Alec, but I want you
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: to hear this. I'm TSA pre-check. I don't know if
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: you know that.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 10: Really?
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: It's a special category.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you pay for that.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: You're not special. And guess what? Okay, so I paid
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: for it. I still got to stand in front of
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: the camera.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 33: Yeah, no, you can stand in front of the camera,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 33: but when you go up there, you say, I don't
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 33: want the facial recognition, and then they say.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 13: Okay, thank you, sir.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: Have you ever done it?
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 29: Yes.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 33: That's what they want you to think, because you see
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 33: everybody else doing it, so you figure, I'll do it, too.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: I want to see you at the airport do it.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: I bet if you do that at the airport, they'll say,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: you stand over there. You go over there, young man.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 33: The PSA agent will salute you and say, thank you
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 33: for being a patriot.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: No, he wouldn't.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: Okay, caller, was the Patriot Act a violation of your rights?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: We're not talking about the Patriot Act.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 5: No, I'm going to make a point here.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: No, you're confusing.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 5: How do I shut you off here?
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: There is no shutting me off here.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 5: Go ahead, Colin.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 33: Well, if you give up your privacy for freedom, you'll
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 33: have neither.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: I am not giving it up.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: I am having a say.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: And did they tell us when they brought the Patriot Act,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: did they tell us that this was, there's nothing to
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: worry about, we're going to capture terrorists?
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: That's all you have is a Patriot Act. That's all
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: we have? Yeah, we've had flock cameras for a long time,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: and none of these problems. That's because nobody blew a
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: whistle on it yet. argument is not reality. It's what
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: about this? What about that? You know what? In every
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: patrol car now, do you think a patrol car should
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: have a computer in it, Alec? Do you think the
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: cops should be able to run the license plate of
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: your car? I'll be right back after this. Well, they
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: run it even if you're not. On News Radio 570,
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  Speaker 2: Dodie Kivian. You're on air.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 17: Hello?
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 17: It's Christine Oliver. How are you?
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: Hi, Christine Oliver. I'm okay. Go ahead with your thoughts, please.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 17: On the flat cameras.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 17: Having a husband who retired from 27 years of law enforcement,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 17: I specifically asked him about this topic. And he said
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 17: it only records license plates. And one thing I agree with,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 17: If my child was taken or if we had an
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 17: elderly person, say with dementia, you know, disappears, wanders off,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 17: those flock cameras are wonderful for that reason, for another
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 17: tool for our law enforcement. But he also reminded me
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 17: about our neighbor's house that was broken into up the
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 17: street about a year ago, and we didn't pick anything
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 17: up on our ring camera. It was the flock camera
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 17: that solved that case.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: I'll repeat that. I want to make sure our listeners
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: hear that. Say that again, please.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 17: So our neighbor's home was broken into up the street.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 17: And they came around door to door trying to see
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 17: if any of our ring cameras had picked up anything.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 17: And our ring camera didn't pick up anything. It was
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 17: the flock camera that solved the case and found the
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 17: people that broke into the neighbor's house. And I'm sure
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 17: they were very grateful. And that gets a criminal caught.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 17: And I'm all for that.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: I am, too, because all I'm hearing is from some
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: paranoid nuts the what if and what about this, what
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: about that. That's all speculation. It's merely a tool for
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: police to do their job more efficiently and to keep
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: your community.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 12: Safer, period.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 19: Yes.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 17: I'm all about the police, as you know, and I'm
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 17: all about keeping our community safe.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. You've always had those events for years. All right, Christine.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I got to go.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 9: You're welcome.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 6: Bye-bye.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: You're on the air. Hello.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 12: Hi, Ron.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 11: I've been driving a truck for quite a while now.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 11: Every time we get on the turnpike, they have cameras
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 11: that take a picture of the license plate. They take
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 11: a picture of your face. If you're not wearing glasses
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 11: on your driver's license, it says you're supposed to be
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 11: wearing glasses. They'll let you know about that. It's a violation.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: Now, how about if you're not wearing pants?
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 11: Well, they can't see that.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 13: In any event.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe in your case.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 11: And I'm sure there's drivers that run down the road
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 11: naked driving. You know, it's none of my business. But
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 11: as far as having a view on the flock camera,
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 11: who's paying for those?
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: What, the flock camera?
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  Speaker 2: All righty. Back to the guy that was saying. Now,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead with your comments, sir.
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  Speaker 11: I was wondering, you know, did the voted constituency vote
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 11: these flock cameras in?
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  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 11: In a police levy or was this a grant?
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: Well, no, it would be by your leadership, by your trustees,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: by the people in charge who would vote for them.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: They had a vote, and they voted in favor of
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: the flock cameras.
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  Speaker 11: Three people decided that everybody in their township should be surveilled.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: Three people who are your elected leaders. You voted for
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: those three people, and they ultimately make the decisions on
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: numerous things without you voting on each and everything. They
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: decided from input from the police departments. As I say,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: Canfield has them. Boardman has them. So they have six
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: flock cameras, and I believe they should get more in
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: all seriousness. Why would you be opposed to it? It
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: is a modern tool of policing. And listen, I'll be perfect,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: and my son does not work for the Austintown Police Department,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: but my son is a police officer. And make no mistake,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people understand totally what
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: goes on out there and what they're up against from
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: a staffing standpoint whatsoever. And this is modern technology. Just
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: as you have a Leeds computer in a police car,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: you have radar units in police cars, and you have people,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: you have flat cameras help identify a fleeing car that
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: has committed a crime, as opposed to trying to guess
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: which way they went to be able to apprehend a criminal.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: It is not there to deal with you or anything
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: you've got going on. They do not care if you're
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: going to Walmart. They do not care. But you would
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: care if your home was broken into. You would care
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: if your car was stolen. You would care if your
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: child was.
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  Speaker 11: My car's like yours, Ron. It's not going to get stolen.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: If your child was apprehended. So is it a deterrent
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: to crime? No, but it helps catch criminals that commit crime.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: And they're throughout the community now. And does it prevent
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: you from going to Canfield or Niles or Boardman or anywhere?
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: It never prevents me from doing it. I've never been
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: chased down. And there are ramifications. Police officers have rules.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: And if you break them, there are serious ramifications as
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: far as firing and legal ramifications if you abuse the
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: lead's computer, if you abuse this kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 11: In light of the poor-mouthing that goes on with the
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 11: police departments, and they have their hand out every election
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 11: for a levy, and I'm not going to say it's
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 11: a good thing or a bad thing. In light of that,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 11: this added expense, I don't think it's really warranted or
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 11: justified in that they do have computers in their cars
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 11: to run license plates on cars they see on the road.
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  Speaker 2: It makes your police department more efficient. In other words,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: first of all— Then they can lay off policemen then. No.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: When you deal with your police departments, you understand everything
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: costs more for a police department, too. A police car
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: isn't $ 50, 000 anymore, just like a fire truck is now
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: a million dollars. So police cars cost way more than
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: they used to. Fire trucks do. Health care benefits do.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: Hourly salaries do in police departments and staffing does. In
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: the Austintown Police Department, we are basically at minimum staffing.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: What you're getting is more efficiency out of the officers
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: that are on the road. In the Austintown Police Department,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: as a result of flock cameras, you are getting better
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: efficiency from all of those officers with the staffing that
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: is currently available to them. And it's a tool that
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: they can use.
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  Speaker 11: Do you have any information on how much these cameras cost?
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: I do not.
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  Speaker 11: I think your argument's a little bit vain, and I
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 11: think you're kind of naive about what these cameras are
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 11: capable of and what can do. That naivety is what's
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 11: going to really ruin America.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not naive. I'm telling you for a fact, for
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: a fact, what these cameras do. I will tell you
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: once again for a fact. You can call it naive,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: but anything you're saying is not true. What you're saying
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: is totally and completely false. I mean, at the end
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: of the day, it's pretty simple.
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  Speaker 12: No, no.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: If it makes you more efficient with your police departments.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: You know, there's a taxpayer argument for it, too. If
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: an officer detective can get a direction or location on
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: a suspect vehicle in a few minutes, instead of spending
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: hours driving around finding businesses or houses with cameras and
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: then going through all that video, it's less manpower, less
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: taxpayer money being spent to develop some of the leads.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, think about it.
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  Speaker 11: Where are the videos stored at for these cameras? Do
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 11: they go to the 911 center? Are they at the
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 11: police station where somebody has to sit there and watch
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 11: them all the time?
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, the flat camera notifies the officer's car, notifies them
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: immediately of what's going on. You're not watching the video.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: If you're looking for a car fleeing and that license
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: plate comes up, it'll tell you that. You understand that's
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: how they work. Austin Town PD can use the help.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 11: What's the network that it goes over to notify these officers?
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 11: What network is that? Is that a block network? That's
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 11: got to be a tremendously expensive venture.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure it's a tremendously expensive adventure to have
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: a police car and a computer in the car. Maybe
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: we should just eliminate the police department. It's tremendously expensive
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: to have one.
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  Speaker 11: I remember when we got away with having a constable.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: You know what? Do you understand how busy these officers are?
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: Do you have any clue? I mean, you're saying this
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. I can tell you for a fact
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: that you have no idea how busy the Austin Town
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: Police Department is.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 11: Let's put a flock camera in front of every speedway.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 11: In the area and see how much time a cop
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 11: spends there.
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  Speaker 2: You're totally... Do you know how busy the Austintown Police
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: Department is on the night shift, the overnight shift? Do
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: you have any idea how many calls are coming in?
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 11: I'm pretty sure that they're pretty active.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: Right. And you want to come on here and act
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: like we can do it with a constable and sit
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: at the sheet station. Your comments are an insult to
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: the officers and just, frankly, ass-nying. You're on the air.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 15: Ronny!
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 30: I've got a question about the clock cameras, but I've
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 30: got to ask you something first.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 13: When did you transgender?
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: Just during the last commercial break.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 30: It must have been, like, last weekend, because it sounds
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 30: like you've been, like, your time of the month this
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 30: last couple days, man. You've been fired up.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: Well, it is that time for me, you know. I mean,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: I can't help it.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 30: Well, that's one of the things they don't tell you
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 30: when you're transgender, that this is going to happen.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: Listen, you know you find me attractive now.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 15: No, no, no, no.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, come on. You're asking.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 30: Not at your biatch in every five minutes. Yeah, I
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 30: don't find you attractive at all.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: No, but you find me very interesting. Very interesting.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 30: You're getting kind of irritating with this. Honestly, Ronnie, people
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 30: are calling in. Alex, several callers came in and made
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 30: perfectly good points about... Just the fact that, like, when
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 30: the next COVID comes and there's 600 cameras and they're
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 30: following you.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: Here we go. Wait a minute. Your argument isn't what's happening.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: Your argument is, well, maybe this could happen or maybe
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: that could happen. Well, how do you go against any
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: argument that's dealing with nothing but hypotheticals that aren't even realistic,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: are not even realistic on flat cameras? If you want
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: to talk about COVID, you want to talk about digital
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: currency in Canada, not flock cameras. Flock cameras weren't used.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: What are flock cameras going to say? Oh, hey, whatever. COVID,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: Ron went to the McDonald's. Good luck with that.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 30: Ronnie, the right now determines what happens in the future.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 30: If you let these, if those governments, And you know
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 30: the government's involved. You know what happened with the deep
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 30: state and everything else, like with Trump.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 13: There's evil people.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 30: And next COVID, when, you know, everything's shut down.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 10: Just like..
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: Do you want to catch criminal? Do you want to
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: give technology to your police department to be able to
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: catch criminals in your community?
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 13: Okay, Ronnie.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: Yes or no? I'm not speculating. I'm saying here's what
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: flock cameras are doing right now, and here's how they're used.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you factually this is what they do as
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: a tool and how they are used. I'm telling you
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: they've been in this community, in this listening area, for
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: a considerable amount of time. And you haven't had any
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: of this BS that people have speculated about. But it
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: has helped capture criminals. So let's deal with reality instead
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: of this ridiculous speculation. I'm dealing with reality.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 30: I agree with you that there are good things that
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 30: could come from this. But I do believe that you're
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 30: being very closed-minded.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: You're damn right I am. Because it's ridiculous. Hypothetical arguments
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: on this are ridiculous.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 30: I mean, even Emmanuel, I agree with him today.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: That how ridiculous these arguments are.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 30: No, no, you got to.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: OK, so would you be more comfortable if we eliminated
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: flock cameras and now it's more difficult for the police
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: to catch people, criminals? We ignore the technology. Would you
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: also prefer us to tell officers you can't sit and
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: run a license plate on your leads computer? How much
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: technology do you want to take out of the patrol car?
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: That makes a patrol officer more efficient and better at
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: doing their job. How much do you want to do?
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: Should we eliminate radar guns for speeders? What do you
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: want to do? That's all technology.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 13: I am open-minded.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 30: I believe there's good and bad.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, name any of the bad right now with flock cameras. Okay,
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: I will name it. You have some officers that abused them.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: Not locally, but you've had in communities, offices that abused them.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: What happened to those officers? They were fired and they
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: faced charges as a result of it, just as you
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: would be if you abuse the lead's computer. And that's
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: the way it should be. Are you for making a
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: police officer more efficient and easier to catch a fleeing
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: criminal's car? The guy might have broke the law in
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: Niles and is fleeing through Austintown. And as a result
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: of flock cameras, you can apprehend the guy that just
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: shot somebody. Does that bother you? So let's deal with
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: the reality of what they do. I want to only
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: deal with reality. I don't want to deal with speculation
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: because it's ridiculous.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 30: Well, like I said, the decisions we make now in society,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 30: 10 years, 20 years down the road, with different governments,
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 30: like one of the last callers says, I mean, we
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 30: could be losing our freedom. So we must investigate, not
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 30: just say, these are good, it's good, it's good, it's good. No,
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 30: you've got to look at the good and the bad, Ronnie.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 24: All right.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 13: You're on the air.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 12: Thanks.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 13: Is this on?
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is. Go ahead.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 27: Hey, my name is Denise. The reason I have a
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 27: problem myself with the flock cameras are at a local level.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 27: You never get transparency from our local government officials, specifically
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 27: the trustees of Austin Town. And then they ask for
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 27: more money by means of, you know, more levies. We say, okay.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 27: We want you to add more police officers to the force.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 27: We want you to put air conditioning in their buildings.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 27: We want you to upgrade their facilities.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 15: Here's the money.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 27: Now they want to do this. Do you realize that
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 27: it takes away from the confidence that we have as
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 27: residents of Austintown in our leadership?
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: No, it does not. Okay, let me ask you a question.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: Did you vote for those people for trustee? Yes or no?
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: No. Well, they were elected, right?
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 29: They were elected by majority.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 13: Okay.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: And is that how our system works?
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 15: Exactly.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 27: That is how our system works.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: All right. And you have a police chief. Is that
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: not accurate also in Austintown?
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 19: Yes.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 26: All right.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: And so if the police department says we can use
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: this tool... With our minimum staffing that they have, you
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: passed a police levy. You passed that police levy because
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: the police department, as I said, was a victim of inflation.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: And I can tell you, no one pays more attention
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: to what goes on in that township than I do
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: in the budget. And I'm here to tell you something.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: I'll tell it to you specifically. Once again, I looked
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: at that budget. I analyzed it. And I Quite frankly,
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: my son, who is not a member of the Austin
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: Police Department once again, but is a police officer, said, Dad,
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: you're missing it. They don't have enough officers for guys
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: to take vacation time, to take days off, the overtime.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: He went through it step by step on how they
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: needed it. I'm not done because you're the one complaining.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 27: So I'm just saying this is why.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. So additional money was needed
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: to maintain. The cars, the officers, and to add some officers,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: not a bunch. They were only talking to adding a
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: few officers to that police department. So now they have
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: this option. Now, I don't know if the flock cameras
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: are from a grant. I don't know that. Or I'm
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: not sure how they're being paid for. I don't know.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: But the flock cameras are there, and they do make
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: your community safer and an officer more efficient. I agree
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: with you there. So what's the problem?
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 14: I agree with that.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 27: So the problem gets back to originally when we voted
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 27: for this levy or voted against the levy, that we
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 27: were told the money is going to be used for this.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what it's being used for, the police department.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: You voted for a police levy, and that is being
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: used in the police department.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 27: But that is not what we were told. They were
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 27: going to be purchasing cameras. And this is very typical
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 27: of Austintown, and I'm sure you watch it just as much.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 10: As I have.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's typical at all. Austintown, you passed
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: a police levy. What did you think the money would
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: be for?
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 27: They said very specifically what it would be for. They
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 27: needed to hire more officers. They needed to upgrade their
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 27: vehicles and take care of some air conditioning and.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 17: Stuff in the offices.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: You're leaving one important thing out that they said. And technology.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: And they did say technology. This is technology.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 27: But this is not a one-time purchase. This is an
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 27: ongoing cost.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: So?
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 27: That runs anywhere from $ 2, 000 to $ 3, 000 a camera per year.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: So? Hang on, hang on. Stand by. Oh, yeah. Stand by.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: All right, let me go back and let's see. I
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: think I was here. Was I talking to you?
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 24: Yes.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: So your community says, we have this technology that makes
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: our minimum staffing still, because their goal with your levy
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: was to replace officers that retired to try to get
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: close to 40 officers. It wasn't to hire 50 or
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: ultimate staffing. And now this technology makes all those officers...
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: more efficient at dealing with fleeing criminals. How is that
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: a bad thing? And it's money well spent. It's an expense.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: But is it an expense that benefits your community in
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: keeping it safer and money well spent that you're paying
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: in your tax dollars? I think it is.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 27: Well, I'm not saying that it would necessarily be a
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 27: detriment to the township. But what I am saying is
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 27: it's an ongoing problem.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 21: So this costs, you know, like, okay.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 27: So we have what, like six of them now? And
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 27: I did look it up, and flock cameras run between
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 27: $ 2, 500 and $ 3, 000 per camera per year to monitor, and
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 27: they run $ 250 to $ 350 to install.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: That's pretty cheap if you ask me for a year.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 27: Well, regardless of that, you want 16 of them. Are
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 27: you going to pay the increase in the taxes?
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: If it was up to me, they're only getting six.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 15: Right.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 27: And you want 16 of them.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what I want.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 15: This is not a one-time cost.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: We're not saying, okay, we're.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 21: Going to buy you a new car.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not in charge. They're getting just six of them.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: I wish they would get more. I think they're worth it.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: But they're only getting six, so let's deal with reality.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: They're getting six.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 15: Right.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 27: But my complaint is that it's This is not a
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 27: one-time thing. We did not go out and buy a
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 27: new computer system. We did not go out and buy
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 27: new taser guns. We did not go out and buy
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 27: new cars.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 29: We are subscribing to an ongoing cost.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: Do you think there's an ongoing cost to have a
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: Leeds computer in a police car?
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 27: I don't know. I couldn't tell you that, Ron.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a computer in there, and it's hooked up, obviously,
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: to the Internet. And there would have to be a
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: cost associated with that, would there not be? Let's use
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: some common sense. Yes or no?
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 21: Well, yeah, I mean, I would.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: Well, that would be an ongoing cost. Maybe we should
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: eliminate that, too.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 27: Well, we're not talking about that.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: No, but I mean, some ongoing costs are well worth it.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: I got ongoing costs at my home, just as you do.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: Do you have a cell phone? How many cops have
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: cell phones provided by the department? There's an ongoing cost.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe we should eliminate all those and say, you use
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: your own cell phone.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 27: I think I computer don't know what they need a
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 27: cell phone for. Maybe that's a whole nother ballgame. But
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 27: the thought is what I'm getting back to this as.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 27: This is an ongoing, increasing, this is not a one-time purchase.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 27: So when they came to us and we voted it
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 27: down the first time and then they came back and
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 27: they said, look, this is where we're at. And we
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 27: voted it in. The residents of Austin Town did not
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 27: sign up for Oh, well, we're going to have to
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 27: keep increasing your taxes because this is going to keep
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 27: costing more and more money.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: They're not increasing your taxes. They're using their existing budget.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: to pay for these they're not charging you anymore that
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: listen to what they're saying we are making we are
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: making our officers more efficient with the technology that we're
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: offering do you support that to be able to catch
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: fleeing criminals in your community I do support that.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 27: But then again, Ron, you have to remember, you know,
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 27: according to the National City.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 29: Statistics, that we are a B-plus rating for crime. Austintown,
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 29: Ohio is a B plus solid rating for crime.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 21: Look it up on Google.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 27: I understand we have issues that we need to deal with.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 27: But what I'm saying is the only thing that I'm
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 27: saying here.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: We have growing issues with crime in this country that
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: we're dealing with, including in Austintown. Issues like we've never
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: seen before. Whether it's the shooting over in College Park
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: that took place, the stealing of the ATM, or some
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: of the vicious criminals that come through the township. It
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: is a reality. And if you want to say, well,
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: we've got a B-plus rating, then you should be commending
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: your police department for having such a good rating. Because obviously..
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 7: I never said anything badly about the police department.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 2: But you want to... hog tie him on technology and
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: not let him use something that can keep all our
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: officers safer.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 27: I don't want to hog tie the police department in
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 27: any respect.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: It keeps them much safer.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 27: I would like to say that I believe that the
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 27: trustees are not being as clear as they should be.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: I think they're being very clear that if you don't,
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: you vote him out of office. All right. I will
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: be the first guy to say I don't think there's
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: anything wrong with what any of these trustees did. Only
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: two of them. Actually, two of them voted. I don't
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: have any problem with what Shepis did or with Monica
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 2: did in voting for this. The other person, I think, abstained.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: But needless to say, I have no beef with it.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: I'll defend him and support it. and the police chief
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: and the power, the decisions to make. I think it
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: makes your officers safer and your community safer and more efficient.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 2: It is technology. The arguments I'm hearing are ridiculous. You're
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: on the air. Oops, I'm sorry. You're on the air.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 4: Mr.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 35: Verve, were you up at 5 o'clock this morning on
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 35: the computer trying to find out what the percentage of
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 35: people are that go for this and are against it?
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 35: I think you were. And you found out that there
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 35: were a lot of people against it. So you're going
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 35: to put.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 15: It on the air.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 35: You're doing a good job.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 2: Hang on.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 6: Hang on.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: Hang on. Hang on. I got to do my break.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: I'll come back.
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• 2:01:07
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• 2:01:10
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• 2:01:14
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• 2:01:37
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• 2:01:41
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  Speaker 2: It's Radio 570 WKVN 535. No, it's just because they're
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: putting you in my community, and I think people are
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: just paranoid goofballs on the whole thing. I genuinely do.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 35: No, they're not paranoid at all. The fellow that popped
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 35: into your station there, I agree with him. Who was that?
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 35: I don't know who it was.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, the guy in the studio? It was Paranoid Nutjob.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 15: It was his clone.
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 35: I know it was his clone that came in.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: Paranoid Nutjob is his name.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 35: No, not at all. Not at all.
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 14: He is right on.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 35: And the people that ask you the what ifs and
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 35: the how comes, I want that every day of your show.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 35: I want that because those are the journalists out there
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 35: that don't have the degrees, but they're asking the question.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 35: That's how this country got to where it is at,
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 35: except for the last 10 years.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 2: But it amazes me how many people are experts on
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: policing when they have no background or knowledge in it.
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 35: No, I wouldn't be a cop if you paid me
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 35: $ 200, 000 a year. I wouldn't be a cop.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 2: But this is to apprehend criminals.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 35: I get it. I get it.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 2: I explained it a million times. So why would you
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: want to take that?
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 13: I learned the truth when I got there.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 15: Why would you want to take your tool away?
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 35: I don't care. You know, you try to make Canfield
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 35: sound so great. They're all having a lot of problems.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 35: And these police should have what's ever necessary at their disposal.
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 35: But when those people gathered and they said, we need
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 35: money for new cars and new trucks. But then they
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 35: said technology.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 35: That leaves a window wide open. Because the next technology
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 35: is right around the corner. And we don't even know
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 35: what that's going to be.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you something. In this industry that
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting in here today, they are spending a gazillion dollars,
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 2: by heart, on technology. I believe you.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 15: Yes, of course.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 2: And things are changing at lightning speed from a technological standpoint,
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: the likes of which I've never seen.
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 35: I believe you a thousand percent. We have come so
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 35: far in the past 20 years.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 2: One day, and I want you to hear this because
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 2: I know a lot about technology. One day, now listen
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: to me, okay? Are you paying attention? One day... you'll
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 2: be able to turn on your television, and instead of
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: being in black and white, it will have a colored
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: picture on it. The picture will be in color. One day,
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 2: now listen to me carefully. One day, now listen to
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: me carefully. One day, you'll be able to actually, you
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 2: will have a phone like Dick Tracy that will not
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 2: have a wire or anything that you'll be able to
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 2: communicate from your car, even on a watch. One day
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: that will happen. You mark my word.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 35: I'm paying attention. I'm paying attention.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: All right, I got to go.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 11: No, don't go.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 4: No, not wait.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 35: You probably got one more thing.
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 11: Before you go.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 12: What is it?
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 35: The thing that frustrates me the most about all this
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 35: is that the businesses that are in Austintown. How many
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 35: of them are not paying a dime for that coverage
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 35: that they want from the police department? All of this
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 35: falls on the homeowner.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 35: All of these businesses out there have got..
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 27: They..
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 15: Backstreamed it.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 2: Guess what?
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 35: Backstreamed that for 10 years, 15 years.
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 13: No, no, no, no.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 35: And they're not even paying it. That's why the people
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 35: are pissed off.
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 2: No, they're not? You're wrong about that?
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 35: No, no, I'm not.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 17: Yes, you are.
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 2: Hey, Meyer, Walmart, Home Depot, they all pay property taxes.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: And guess what? They don't get to vote yes or
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 2: no on them.
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 35: They just got to pay them.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, goodbye.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 5: Goodbye.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 2: It's just ridiculousness now. They all pay the property taxes.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: They don't even get to vote yes or no because
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 2: they're not sitting. Individuals vote on those, but they all
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 2: pay them. And you know what? If you're stealing from
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 2: Walmarts or Meijer, the cops should show up. That's what
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 2: they're there for. And that's crime. And we should be
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 2: concerned about it. You're on the air. Got to go quick. Yes,
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: I'm running out of time. I want to get as
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: many folks on as I can.
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 15: It's all right.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 20: Today we lost time to talk about hypotheticals.
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 12: Let's talk about a couple of facts.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 15: And I agree, it.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 13: Can't help the police.
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 20: But I'm going to go once to the analogy of
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 20: a dog on a chain to a tree.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 13: You take a link out every now and then, sooner
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 13: or later.
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 20: That dog stuck to the tree. It's all about surveillance,
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 20: and it's all about Big Brother.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 15: We have cameras around.
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 20: We have all that. But if you go onto the
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 20: website of Flock, they actually tell you they're coming out
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 20: with a technology for Bluetooth. So you drive by their
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 20: slot camera, they'll get your Bluetooth on your phone, they
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 20: get the Bluetooth in your car, they can read everything
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 20: you have. It's all about big brother watching you. And
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 20: that's what I don't like about them.
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: None of that is happening right now. These are all
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 2: hypothetical nonsense that you're spewing.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 16: No, no, no.
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 4: Their website actually says.
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 2: We have the new technology. Do you live in Austintown?
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 2: You said yes, right?
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 15: Yes, I did.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: The fly cameras that your community is buying don't do
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 2: any of the things that you mentioned, do they?
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 16: Do you know that?
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do know that.
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 12: Four hundred percent yes.
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 20: I am so what so what so what keeps them
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 20: from doing a software update than it does let's keep
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 20: someone hold on what keeps someone from.
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 15: Hacking into them and say and do it following someone?
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 2: First of all... You know it's possible.
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 20: Because them hackers, they're smart idiots.
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 2: You're a paranoid nut.
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 12: No, I'm not.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 2: Do you want your police department to have..
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 20: I like small government, not big government.
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 19: I don't like people spying on me.
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 2: Well, do you like the police to be efficient and
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 2: be able to keep your community safe and apprehend criminals?
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 12: They do a great job.
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 13: I have no problem.
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 2: You're on the air. He's a paranoid nut. Hello.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 13: Hey, Ron.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 15: I really believe you're the one that's paranoid.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not at all.
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 33: Because..
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 15: No, you have to be, because... You're the one that said,
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 15: you know, if somebody stole your car or somebody murdered somebody,
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 15: if this, this, that, and the other, how could you
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 15: sit there and complain about somebody that doesn't want that
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 15: kind of surveillance going out in our public space? Everybody
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 15: going to work every day and doing their thing. How
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 15: could you be more paranoid about having flocked cameras to
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 15: do more against civilians versus criminals?
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  Speaker 2: Well, what are they doing against you? Tell me what
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: they're doing against you. What are they doing against you?
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 2: Tell me.
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  Speaker 15: When you put up flock cameras against what that gentleman
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 15: just said.
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  Speaker 12: No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: You tell me right now. You go in Canfield. Do
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 2: you ever drive in Canfield?
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 29: Yes.
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: What has a flock camera done to you?
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  Speaker 15: I wouldn't know until they fucking.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: Came to me. Don't use that foul language on the air.
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 2: That's it. You're on the air. Hello.
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 30: Hey, it's interesting that it seems like the frustration with
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 30: you and the callers is.
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 9: That they're finally figuring out that you are a liberal
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 9: hosting a conservative talk show.
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what? You know what I figured out?
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 2: That you're an idiot and you're not on the air.
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 2: But you are. Hello.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 9: Hello, Ron.
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 10: Just a couple of facts. I've been listening to this.
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  Speaker 10: Number one, you were talking about privacy. The courts have
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 10: ruled when you're out in public, you have no right
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 10: to privacy. The only right to privacy you have is
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 10: in your own home.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 2: That is true. You are correct.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 10: So when Alex gave that example of somebody looking in
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 10: your window and trying to compare it to a flock camera,
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 10: it's called being a peeping Tom. It's a little bit
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 10: different than a flock camera. You know, so there is
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 10: no right to privacy when you're out on the street.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 10: And I'm listening to all these people. So you know what?
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 10: You had your neighbor or your friend say, And they're
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 10: talking about surveillance. So I looked it up. A, in
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 10: order for the government to listen to your call, they
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 10: have to get a warrant. And that warrant has to
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 10: be limited to kidnapping, terrorism, or child prostitution. That's all
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 10: they can do. The thought that they're sitting there listening
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 10: to your pizza order of all the people in this
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 10: country is just absurd.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 10: I mean, if people are worried about that..
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: They would rather a criminal get away in their community
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 2: than making their police more efficient. It's unbelievable to me
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 2: the paranoia that I'm hearing from people. And quite frankly,
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 2: this cell phone that I have here now, when I
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 2: Google stuff, it knows more about me than any flock
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: camera will ever know about me. I have no concern.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 2: As I say, you could put four flock cameras on
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 2: my street. I'm not worried about it.
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 10: I'm waiting for that first person to call and give
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 10: an example of when their rights were... When something happened
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 10: because of a phone call they made and somebody knocked
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 10: on their door and arrested them. I mean, the paranoia
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 10: level is just incredible.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 10: And it's all what if. You know, none of it's actual.
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 10: You know, if you what if, you can what if
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 10: just about anything.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 2: That is correct.
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 10: And come up with the worst possible scenario. I'm talking
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 10: about right now. You have no rights in public or privacy.
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 10: And I can't think of a single example where anybody's
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 10: ever had their rights violated. So I'm not quite sure
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 10: what all those calls were about.
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 2: You know, from a legal standpoint, you are correct. I
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: dropped a ball there, and that should have occurred to me.
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 2: My professors would be upset with me.
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 10: Well, thank you for your time.
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 2: Thank you. You're on the air.
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 15: If you and Kim Zuckoon and Dr.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 12: Jesus had better surveillance..
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 7: You wouldn't be using the effing word or the flocking word.
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 2: Sir, it's flock cameras with an L. Flock cameras. All right.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 2: Please pronounce it correctly. Flock. You're on air.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 30: Ronald.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, Ted. Running short on time.
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  Speaker 15: I'm just calling.
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  Speaker 4: To give you some moral support because.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 7: I'm on your side.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 2: Well, actually, the last guy that called, I really did
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 2: drop the ball. I'm disappointed in myself on the right
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 2: to privacy. I should have mentioned that.
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 4: It's a common sense.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 10: Thing, Ron.
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 4: Paranoia, it's where our world's heading, conspiracy theorists. But let
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 4: me put it to you this way. There's few people
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 4: as wise as you and I and a few other colleagues.
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 4: So we're on the right side.
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, you get these guys. Oh, you're a liberal
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 2: and all this. This guy's just you're an idiot. And
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 2: yet he doesn't he doesn't even remotely know me because I,
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 2: you know, I do. So I do support the flock
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 2: cameras and I do think it will it will benefit
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: the community. And I think people will see that it has.
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: And the paranoia hasn't affected anybody with them here. that
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: are currently the what-ifs are nonsense. And I don't think
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of people realize what the police are up against.
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 2: As a husband, as a.
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 12: Father, an uncle, a.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 4: Son, I want nothing more than more fly cameras to
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 4: protect the women in my family from the evil that
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 4: exists in this world.
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 2: And there's plenty of it, I'm here to tell you.
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 4: There's plenty of it.
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 11: All right, buddy.
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to give you some moral support.
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 11: You've been worked up.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: You've got to call me tomorrow because I've got to
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 2: talk about that. I enjoyed that conversation last night. That
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 2: was a great conversation. I did, too.
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 4: I'll call you tomorrow. I've been painting all day.
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 11: Let's review it.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed that immensely. I thank you. All right. You're
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 2: on the air.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 4: I heard you're a turncoat.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 6: I am.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 4: After yesterday's conversation, I haven't been listening because I have
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 4: been having a very hard time putting up with what
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 4: you're saying. I heard your turncoat.
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 2: Wow, my turncoat.
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 4: And you're not giving enough credit to what flock cameras
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 4: can do. Flock cameras are also hackable. Anybody can hack them. Yeah?
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 4: Anybody can hack them.
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 2: When have they been hacked?
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 4: They've been hacked all over the country.
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 2: Where?
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 4: And that all over the country.
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 2: But where? Specifically where? Tell me where the last time
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 2: it was hacked.
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 4: I haven't looked up where they are, but I know
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 4: for a fact that they've been hacked. And there's no
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 4: camera in this country that can't be hacked. Because I
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 4: install them and I know what they can do.
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 2: You don't install the flock cameras. You install private security cameras.
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 4: It's the same thing. It's put on a network. Anything
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 4: that's put on a network can be hacked.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 10: Anything.
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 4: Anything.
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 2: And you're paranoid about a flock. So you're against flock
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 2: cameras in your community?
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying it takes away more of my privacy.
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 13: Absolutely, I am.
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't take anything away from your privacy.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 4: It sure does.
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 2: Well, how does it take it?
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 4: Because every time I go by that flock camera, it
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 4: records it. It goes on. If that flock camera.
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 2: Was there only. Every time you drive down a street,
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 2: somebody's camera records you.
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 4: Your argument would be valid if all that flock camera
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 4: did was be.
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 2: Sent to our police department. You are a paranoid nut.
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 2: You're saying things that are totally inaccurate.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 4: The National Database is not just fed to.
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 15: Our police department.
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 4: It's fed to the National Database.
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, tell me, how does it work? If a criminal
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 2: drives by a flock camera in Austintown fleeing from a
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 2: bank robbery, what happens?
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 4: It records everything that goes on in that video.
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 2: But what does it do?
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 4: Because it's not... It is not only going to pick
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 4: up the mic, it's going to pick up all the video.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, what does it do if a criminal drives by
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 2: the flock camera? What does it do?
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 4: It picks up the license plate. It picks up the
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 4: video of the car. It picks up the video of
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 4: a car going the opposite direction. It picks up anybody
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 4: who would be standing in front of the camera.
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, we're wasting time. Does that camera notify the police
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: to say immediately?
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 6: No, no.
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 13: You have to look it up.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 4: Somebody has to look it up.
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: So you can notify an officer immediately that that car
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 2: just passed this camera that we're looking for?
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 30: No.
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 4: No, it's all recorded on a database.
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's not recorded. Does it notify the officer?
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 10: No.
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, so what do they do? What do they do?
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 2: Call them the next day?
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 4: They have to search. They have to search a database
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 4: in order to find them. license plate that they're looking for.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 10: No.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 2: If your license plate pops up on that database, you
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 2: don't think the notification goes out immediately?
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 13: Yes or no.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 2: These are yes or no questions. it's a yes or
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 2: no question if I drive by.
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 4: It has to go to a central database I'm.
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 2: Not asking you a question does it notify the cop
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 2: immediately of where you are no when does it notify
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 2: him then when the cop looks it up they.
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 4: Have to do a search they have to do a search.
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: Alright you don't understand it it's a total waste of
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 2: time A complete waste of time. It tracks your plate.
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 2: It takes a picture of your plate. This is really sad.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 2: It's really pathetic. It's pathetic how paranoid people are. It
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 2: really is very, very troubling. One moment, one crash, one injury.
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 2: It can take away everything.
• 2:19:03
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• 2:19:09
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• 2:19:15
  Speaker 2: 555 News Radio 570. It's just like the last caller.
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 2: Didn't even know what he was talking about. Is that
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 2: flock camera going to notify the guy in a cruiser,
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 2: either through text message or on the computer, that that
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 2: car just passed that flock camera? That's why they're effective.
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 2: That's why they work. They don't record a video that
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 2: you got to go watch the next day. That doesn't
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 2: solve the problem. It's how they catch people fleeing that
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 2: apprehended a child, stole a car, robbed a bank. whether
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 2: that's in Niles fleeing to Austintown or whatever the case
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 2: might be, or even if it's somebody that's gotten away
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 2: days ago from some other area and their plate comes
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 2: up in the system. It is a dangerous world out there,
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of paranoid people. And I think
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 2: you can go to such paranoid extremes it's ridiculous that
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know why any of those people have a
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 2: cell phone with GPS on it. As I say, incidentally,
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 2: I know the guy that invented the GPS on his
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 2: cell phone. I know him personally. Whether that's GPS on
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 2: your cell phone and how that tracks you, how if
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 2: you Google anything and... How you get ads about that
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. A lot of your privacy. Well, you
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 2: give it up on your cell phone. It knows more
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 2: about you than any flock camera ever will. Ring cameras,
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 2: just about everybody has them at their home. They're used
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 2: by people. A lot of times the police ask the
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 2: person who has them, hey, can we look at that?
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: See what's going on with the person breaking in in
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 2: the community in your street or whatever. Making your police
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 2: department more efficient, apprehending fleeing criminals. And you would be
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 2: opposed to it, but sheer paranoia or speculation has absolutely
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with reality. You would attack your money
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 2: well spent from your police levy. You would attack your
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 2: trustees and make a decision In the best interest of
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 2: their community to make it a safer community for its citizens.
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 12: More tomorrow.
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 2: News Radio 570 WKVN and Ron Verb from the Kingdom
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 2: of Mahoning. Don't turn around. Your shadow could be following you.
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 2: Be very, very careful. Identity theft can cost more than
• 2:22:10
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