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Legacy Ranch-Pflugerville, Vandegrift-Round Rock, and other Football Talk with Roger Wallace · The Craig Way Show

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  Speaker 1: Okay, this is a little weird because.
• 0:17
  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, when, when, when we have Roger Wallace
• 0:18
  Speaker 3: join the program, the producer, Jake Herman, uh, bumps back
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  Speaker 3: with a, uh, Jimmy Buffett song, uh, Roger, the, uh,
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  Speaker 3: biggest parrot head we know. And, and yet, uh, and
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  Speaker 3: normally it's one that's suggested we talk about whatever. And
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  Speaker 3: I had not. And I, and I, I said to Jake,
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  Speaker 3: do we have a song ready?
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  Speaker 4: He said, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want something else to know? I had no
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  Speaker 3: idea what he was going to play. The song I
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  Speaker 3: was going to suggest was Finn's.
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  Speaker 4: All right. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: And so I lean into Roger to give us, is there,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, Buffett's stuff is very tropical, but was
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  Speaker 3: there any specific meaning other than a girl going down
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  Speaker 3: to the Caribbean and being accosted by dudes in a
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  Speaker 3: bar and stuff like that?
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you asked because the fifth word in
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  Speaker 2: the song is Cincinnati, and that kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of goes to my.
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  Speaker 2: my fandom with Buffett and that kind of became his
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  Speaker 2: northern Parrothead headquarters, if you will, way back in the
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  Speaker 2: late 70s when He was mostly a southern guy in
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  Speaker 2: Florida and Key West and all that. And then he,
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  Speaker 2: for one reason or another, Cincinnati kind of became a
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  Speaker 2: huge Buffett hub. And so much so that he made
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  Speaker 2: a point of playing every year. That's a concert in
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  Speaker 2: Cincinnati is where one of his band members came up
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  Speaker 2: with the term Parrothead when they were looking at the crowd.
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  Speaker 2: And so- Yeah, that holds some significance beyond the fact that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Landsharks, and they came up with a beer
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  Speaker 2: name because of the Landshark, which is, you know, essentially
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  Speaker 2: what Fins is about, dudes, or Landsharks.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. It's the one that went down to Cincinnati, et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 3: See, I was hoping there was a story behind it,
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  Speaker 3: and there's probably not a story behind every Jimmy Buffett song,
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  Speaker 3: but about some of them.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of his more popular tunes, so it makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: It makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: That's one of those ones, Craig, where he always says,
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  Speaker 2: or used to say, obviously, that there's some you just
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  Speaker 2: have to play. And he doesn't play it for himself.
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  Speaker 2: He plays it for his fans. And, you know, Fins
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  Speaker 2: is one of those anthems. And if you've ever been
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  Speaker 2: to a Buffett concert, it's quite a scene when they
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  Speaker 2: put the Fins up and start swaying from the left
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  Speaker 2: to the right. It's a pretty cool scene on a
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  Speaker 2: lot of those anthems.
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  Speaker 4: Outdoor venues up on the lawn.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah witnessed it myself there at that that that that
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  Speaker 3: amphitheater by the cotton bowl i did that one one
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  Speaker 3: uh one time the the swaying back and forth and
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  Speaker 3: and uh and that sort of thing it kind of
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  Speaker 3: it kind of makes and it's funny he has that
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  Speaker 3: line that that in the song manana that that that
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  Speaker 3: uh that jake played last week says don't try to
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  Speaker 3: describe a kiss concert if you've never seen one don't
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  Speaker 3: try to describe a buffett concert if you've never seen
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  Speaker 3: one right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the parking lot, it's tailgating, it's tropical, it's
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  Speaker 2: Hawaiian shirts. Towards the end of his career, he would
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  Speaker 2: thank the parents for introducing their children. introducing their you
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  Speaker 2: know because the the demographic got pretty old but but
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  Speaker 2: yeah it's it's kind of it's kind of what you
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  Speaker 2: would uh you know escape to uh to margaritaville is
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  Speaker 2: uh you know a real thing and his fans and
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  Speaker 2: that's what a concert's kind of like no doubt about
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  Speaker 2: it i don't live the funny part the ironic part
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  Speaker 2: you know it i don't live the buffett lifestyle right
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  Speaker 2: i just like the music and i like the tropical
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  Speaker 2: vibe and the beach vibe and the palm trees and
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  Speaker 2: all that yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you're not not not exactly the the Put it
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  Speaker 3: this way.
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  Speaker 1: If I were to see you.
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  Speaker 3: At a Buffett concert back in the day, would you
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  Speaker 3: have dressed like the other Parrotheads?
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  Speaker 2: I would not, and I would not have a frozen
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  Speaker 2: concoction drink and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: But I would know every song. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. No doubt about it.
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  Speaker 3: Let me jump right in because you were down there
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  Speaker 3: on campus there because you have a weekly conversation with
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  Speaker 3: Sark for the game day show that you guys have
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  Speaker 3: on KBVO. And, you know, Sark had mentioned something to
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  Speaker 3: me before we recorded Longhorn Weekly last night. and John
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  Speaker 3: Bianco was talking about, they were going to, I think,
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  Speaker 3: go ahead and address all of this business straight on.
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  Speaker 3: And in addition to that, the Johnny Nansen news that
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  Speaker 3: came down as well. So I take it you weren't
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  Speaker 3: necessarily surprised by Sark going head-on with stuff to talk about,
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  Speaker 3: the ESPN attempted interview things, the snafu with that, Arch
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  Speaker 3: Manning's situation, and then the Johnny Nansen news on top
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  Speaker 3: of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I kind of summed it up with it.
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  Speaker 2: They got a lot going on down there and it
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  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the football game. So in
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  Speaker 2: that regard, you know, you're 48 hours out. And yes,
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  Speaker 2: and I think, you know, in some ways he owed
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  Speaker 2: it to Arch to kind of explain the chain reaction
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  Speaker 2: of events that happened that led up to what everyone's
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  Speaker 2: been talking about the last couple of days. So not
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  Speaker 2: surprised at all. I think he felt he owed it
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  Speaker 2: to Arch. He also wanted to let people know he
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  Speaker 2: understands everything as well as Arch does, that he made
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  Speaker 2: a mistake in his choice of comments and all that. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, our conversation is for our Texas game day,
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  Speaker 2: which airs an hour before the game. So obviously we've
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  Speaker 2: moved on. He talked about the things that they need
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  Speaker 2: to work on, but that's part of it, don't you think?
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  Speaker 2: Is it just getting... That focus, because there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of stuff flying around here. And oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: the number one team in the country.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all of that stuff heaped in and coming off
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  Speaker 3: of that gigantic win. I mean, it would not surprise me.
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  Speaker 3: If whoever, the ESPN guys or the Fox guys, whoever,
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  Speaker 3: all say, hey, Texas better be on upset alert because
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  Speaker 3: they've got all these distractions swirling around and they're coming
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  Speaker 3: off that mountaintop experience and getting ready for a hungry
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  Speaker 3: UTSA team. But that said, the vibe I got from
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  Speaker 3: Sark last night, I think what you got as well
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  Speaker 3: is they're circling the wagons. They're locking in on this
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  Speaker 3: game no matter who the opponent was going to be,
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  Speaker 3: regardless of that outside stuff.
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  Speaker 4: No question.
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  Speaker 2: And if you've ever been to practice, which I know
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people don't obviously get that opportunity, practice
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  Speaker 2: looks pretty much the same every day.
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  Speaker 4: And that's because they have to do the work.
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  Speaker 2: And so the other stuff, maybe it seeps into outside
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  Speaker 2: of practice and their day-to-day lives a little bit, but
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  Speaker 2: the practice... It's so regimented and it's so structured that
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  Speaker 2: there's no time for.
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  Speaker 4: Your mind to wander about all that or you're.
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  Speaker 2: Going to get called out so fast. And so I
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  Speaker 2: don't think getting their focus in practice, I think no
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  Speaker 2: matter what with a win like that against Ohio State,
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  Speaker 2: it's only natural that their biggest concern is to get
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  Speaker 2: his team off an emotional high, especially Saturday at 7
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  Speaker 2: o'clock when it's time to play.
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  Speaker 1: No question about it. Roger Wallace with us for a
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  Speaker 1: couple more minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, let's jump to the weekend, starting with your game tonight.
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  Speaker 1: This is kind of a unique thing, isn't it?
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  Speaker 3: I sometimes refer to brand-new high school football athletic programs
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  Speaker 3: as expansion teams.
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  Speaker 1: Because of what they have to deal with and start out.
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  Speaker 3: And in the case of Legacy Branch, it really kind
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  Speaker 3: of is not having that senior class and getting ready
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  Speaker 3: to take on Pflugerville, and that's the one you and
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  Speaker 3: Keith Moreland have tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Legacy Ranch and Pflugerville at the field. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we were out there on their very first day of
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  Speaker 2: practice in August.
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  Speaker 4: And, I mean, it's a beautiful facility. The high school.
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  Speaker 2: And Tim Kinnicky, the head coach, said, man, I got
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  Speaker 2: to see, I got to watch that thing being built.
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  Speaker 2: And it was quite a process for a first-time head coach.
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  Speaker 2: But then, you know, I joked with him, what do
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  Speaker 2: you do when you get that job and you're building
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  Speaker 2: a program?
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  Speaker 4: And he kind of laughed.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, that's interesting because you got to do everything.
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  Speaker 2: And you probably, for everything you do, you probably forgot
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  Speaker 2: three things you need to do, but they come out
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  Speaker 2: of that Liberty Hill district and we know the history
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  Speaker 2: and the tradition. So they're gonna get some players just
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  Speaker 2: by nature of that system out there and those kids
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  Speaker 2: hungry to play football now. you know, they know they're
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  Speaker 2: going to take some lumps and they have the last
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks, but they won their first game. And
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  Speaker 2: like you said, they're all coming back. He said, he goes,
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  Speaker 2: I know I've got everybody coming back, assuming they don't
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  Speaker 2: leave and got a freshman center, for instance.
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  Speaker 4: So obviously you point to the future.
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  Speaker 2: And you see, you know, how, how can we do
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  Speaker 2: this year is a first year varsity program.
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  Speaker 3: That is a tonight at the field and you can
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  Speaker 3: watch it on KBVO at seven o'clock tonight, Pflugerville against
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  Speaker 3: legacy wrench and then the game i'm stepping in for
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  Speaker 3: you tomorrow night because you'll be.
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  Speaker 2: On campus can i turn the tables on you uh
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  Speaker 2: yeah absolutely since you've got the game tomorrow night on
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  Speaker 2: kxam plus uh and this is a you know this
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  Speaker 2: is a game that used to be for a district
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  Speaker 2: title or a piece of the district title or trying
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  Speaker 2: to upset the apple cart this is this is a
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  Speaker 2: pretty cool non-district game over at monroe stadium tomorrow you
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  Speaker 2: and keith will be doing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly vander griffin round rock and you're in your
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  Speaker 3: spot on with it and you know the coaches as
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  Speaker 3: well as i do and uh You know, I was
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  Speaker 3: impressed with both of the coaches and what they had
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  Speaker 3: to say about this. Basically, that you're talking about two
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  Speaker 3: schools who are used to playing each other for eight
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  Speaker 3: consecutive years. It's been nine years since they weren't in
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  Speaker 3: the same district. So it's eight consecutive years. that Round
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  Speaker 3: Rock and Vandegrift met as district opponents. So in eight
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  Speaker 3: consecutive years, they got used to playing each other. And
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  Speaker 3: of course, Cody Moore's in his fourth season overall, but still,
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  Speaker 3: and Drew Sanders is the only coach Vandergriff has ever had.
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  Speaker 1: We know that as well.
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  Speaker 3: But they both were in unanimity about this was too
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  Speaker 3: good a game to not play, continue to play, even
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  Speaker 3: though they're no longer in the same district. If for
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  Speaker 3: no other reason, Roger, as you know, the 6A districts
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  Speaker 3: in this area are all 17 districts. They had to
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  Speaker 3: add that fourth non-district game. He said, why not jump
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  Speaker 3: right into that? And with Round Rock, it's so weird
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  Speaker 3: to think about this, Roger, that the Round Rock schools
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  Speaker 3: are not in with the Leander schools, but they're in
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  Speaker 3: with Westlake and Lake Travis. And that's what's going to
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  Speaker 3: be really interesting to follow on down the line.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's, you know, it's funny when you think about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Kelly Reeves and.
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  Speaker 4: Gupton are, you know, right up the road from each other.
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  Speaker 2: And I joked last week when we were at Kelly
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  Speaker 2: Reeves that, you know, Cedar Ridge and Vista Ridge, and
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  Speaker 2: Vista Ridge is way closer to that stadium than Cedar
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  Speaker 2: Ridge is as far as their campuses are. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but what, you know, you say it's, I say it's
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  Speaker 2: a great game. You say it's a great game. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure both coaches are going, okay, we're We're at week
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  Speaker 2: four now and still we're in non-district. So this is
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  Speaker 2: a great matchup, but these are also two really physical teams. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's a month of pounding now before they
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  Speaker 2: get ready for the, for the most important part.
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  Speaker 4: So it's kind of a.
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  Speaker 2: Catch 22 where you get a great opponent, you get
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  Speaker 2: a great gauge, but you don't want to get, get
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  Speaker 2: beat up too.
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  Speaker 4: Badly here a month into the season before that, that run.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, it should be fun. And no, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Westlake's off tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, on KXAM plus that's the, that's the
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  Speaker 2: marquee marquee game, obviously tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and it'll be a big crowd there, and they
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  Speaker 3: both have good offensive lines. And you saw Vandegrift a
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  Speaker 3: week ago, and we've seen what Round Rock did. That
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  Speaker 3: was an impressive win. They got over Dripping Springs. Both
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  Speaker 3: teams 2-1 going into that. And I am kind of
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: curious to see both of these quarterbacks in action as well.
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  Speaker 3: Dove Strickler for Round Rock is kind of almost their
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  Speaker 3: Swiss Army knife.
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  Speaker 1: He does so much.
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  Speaker 3: For Coach Moore, and then you saw Gavin Custer a
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  Speaker 3: week ago and what he can do for Vandergrift.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to think that Vandegrift took a big
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  Speaker 2: step last week at Liberty Hill, the way they just
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: kind of jumped on Liberty Hill. Big ball game, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: for Liberty Hill to host a 6A team, not only
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  Speaker 2: a 6A team, but.
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  Speaker 4: One with the name of a Vandegrift.
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  Speaker 2: And they were on the wrong end of a pretty
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  Speaker 2: decisive win by Vandegrift, and Custer seemed to kind of
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  Speaker 2: find himself a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: After what happened a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: So Yeah, it should be interesting, and then we'll be
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  Speaker 2: talking almost exclusively about district games. I look at that
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  Speaker 2: 12-5A district, and the fact that they're going to be
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  Speaker 2: two weeks into district play after this weekend, and then
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: a lot of schools don't open district until next week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 3: You can catch Roger and Keith tonight with the call
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  Speaker 3: on KBVO at 7 o'clock, Pflugerville against Legacy Ranch, and
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  Speaker 3: then Keith will join me tomorrow on KXM +. for
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  Speaker 3: Round Rock and Vandegrift. Rog, thanks for the time. Have
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  Speaker 3: a good call tonight. We'll see you this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks, Craig.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for stepping in tomorrow, too.
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  Speaker 1: You betcha.
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  Speaker 3: Take care. All right, that's Roger Wallace. We'll be back
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  Speaker 3: with more on 13 Under the Zone.