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8-21-26 Hour 3 - Broncos vs Packers Preseason Preview/Vic's at peace with Peyton/DRUNK TAKES · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: What a I mean? What a beautiful, beautiful state in
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  Speaker 2: place to live and really really lucky and grateful I
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  Speaker 2: get to come back all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you look like you've been drinking a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: your own beer.
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  Speaker 2: Where did that come from?
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna let you get ready for this golf tournament,
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  Speaker 4: but I do want to ask you sometimes, You know,
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  Speaker 4: you spend a lot of time in the States, when
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  Speaker 4: you miss your homeland, when you miss Sweden. You ever
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  Speaker 4: just drive to Ikea and hang out in the in
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  Speaker 4: the room there and just.
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  Speaker 3: Did we have Ikea? I don't think it was here.
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  Speaker 2: First time it was it was, and then it came over,
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  Speaker 2: came up there. But what is it with you Swedes
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  Speaker 2: and making furniture?
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  Speaker 4: Just a banger of a show for you today. When
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  Speaker 4: you said that to Tyson Barry.
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  Speaker 2: He looked like.
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  Speaker 4: If you saw a woman who you thought was pregnant
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  Speaker 4: and wasn't and asked how far along are you?
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  Speaker 2: He gave you that look. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: You're probably right.
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  Speaker 2: You probably his jaw drop. I know, I know these guys.
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  Speaker 2: You can, you could say stuff to guys, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, well, of course, I'm just saying, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 4: we're getting too comfortable knocking each other, you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I think at that point what happened where we butchered
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  Speaker 4: mosure for so long and so many times that maybe
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  Speaker 4: we just talked exactly like who would you not say
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  Speaker 4: that to while you're done?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Peter Forsburg, I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think I crossed the line when I said
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  Speaker 3: that to Tyson Barry? Not at all.
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  Speaker 5: No, not in the slightest. Now he may have thought
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  Speaker 5: you did. But listen, you're talking about hockey players. We
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  Speaker 5: should have had Cody mcleoud on. We should have I
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  Speaker 5: should have got Cody over here. The stuff I've heard
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  Speaker 5: out of Cody Cloud's mouth over the years. Brett, you
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  Speaker 5: want to talk about one of the best chirpers in
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  Speaker 5: the history of the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Cody mcclaud double Nichols, dude.
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  Speaker 5: Not only could he beat your face up, this guy
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  Speaker 5: was an expert, world class chirper, world class.
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  Speaker 2: Let me ask you, guys this preseason game number two,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna get bo Nicks playing tonight. What do you
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  Speaker 2: want to see? Because I think it's gonna be hard
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  Speaker 2: to replicate what you did against Atlanta just because the
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  Speaker 2: Falcon stink. The Packers are better than that. God, I
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  Speaker 2: keep forgetting that the Broncos played tonight. Yeah, tonight is
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  Speaker 2: preseason game number two. What do you want to see? Well,
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  Speaker 2: I want to see the first t be there in
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  Speaker 2: a moment. I want to see, you know what.
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  Speaker 4: I want to see a an offense that we saw
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  Speaker 4: in the first quarter last week, quick quick, quick, in
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  Speaker 4: tempo rhythm, not having to call a time out because
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  Speaker 4: the play didn't come in, no confusion, no false starts
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  Speaker 4: at the line of scrimmage. How many times do we
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  Speaker 4: see those subtle mistakes that just dissolve the drive right
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  Speaker 4: canter before I book out.
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  Speaker 5: I want to see a confident Bonicks, I think anytime
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  Speaker 5: and listen, he's been through this before.
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  Speaker 2: Now we know he's been through this before.
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  Speaker 5: But when you have a broken ankle and a surgery
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  Speaker 5: and then you have another surgery, I don't care who
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  Speaker 5: you are.
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  Speaker 2: As a pro athlete, there's gonna be that little.
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  Speaker 5: Tiny thing in your head in real time against guys
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  Speaker 5: who really want to chase you and hurt you. There's
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  Speaker 5: gonna be that little doubt. I want to see a
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  Speaker 5: confident emerging from the game. Confident and oh hell yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'm back Bonix. That's what I want to see because
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  Speaker 5: I think that's going to be critical for this coming season.
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  Speaker 2: I do believe that at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: what you're seeing from the Broncos tonight is going to
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  Speaker 2: be what they say, fourteen plays or something like that
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  Speaker 2: for the starters.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, or at a bow, yeah, just find some connections.
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  Speaker 4: If there's one thing like sort of outside the box.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if this is outside or not, but.
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  Speaker 2: Can I get a tie end to show me something today?
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  Speaker 2: Is that asking to.
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  Speaker 3: What are you looking for?
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  Speaker 4: I just want to tilay, like, just give me, like
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  Speaker 4: a good catch, maybe a catch and run, something like that.
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  Speaker 2: You know Ingram had won in that first preseason game.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that was a Remember the city passed to Ingram
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  Speaker 4: down the right side.
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  Speaker 3: Es that was the play of the preseason.
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  Speaker 4: I want to see somebody else. I want to see
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  Speaker 4: justin Joelee. I want to see Dallan Bentley. I want
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  Speaker 4: to see Caleb Blowner. I want to say something like that.
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  Speaker 4: What does that prove exactly that you can do it
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  Speaker 4: in the preseason. To me, crispness of how you execute
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  Speaker 4: your plays is most important. Yes, yeah, you want to
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  Speaker 4: make sure the operation is coordinated, like there are no mistakes.
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  Speaker 4: We've we've gone through OTAs, we've gone through training camp days.
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  Speaker 4: Now all right, now, let it translate to the field.
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  Speaker 3: We saw it last week. It looked beautiful in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 4: I mean when you watch both of those teams, which
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  Speaker 4: team looked like it was better prepared for the season.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, it was absolutely the Broncos. I mean clearly it
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  Speaker 5: was the Denver Broncos. It looked like the Falcons. We
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  Speaker 5: just got back the night before from cancun Is And
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  Speaker 5: and you know what, I think the Broncos being ready
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  Speaker 5: for VIC. I think the Broncos actually being professional and prepared.
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  Speaker 5: I think that added to that. I think that was
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  Speaker 5: part of the equation.
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  Speaker 3: I do too.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's a matter of if you're looking at last year,
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  Speaker 4: what's the biggest difference that a play caller can make?
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  Speaker 2: Because I don't think the offense is going to be
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  Speaker 2: that much different. It's just about how how quickly can
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  Speaker 2: you get your offense together? And in rhythm, and can
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  Speaker 2: they get to the line? Shockey left, go play golf. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm out. By the way, did I see that Shocky
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  Speaker 2: has his clubs on the back of the car? Is
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  Speaker 2: he playing? He's a job. You can go home. Here's
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  Speaker 2: the deal, our program but he can't.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the deal. Here's the deal.
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  Speaker 4: Our program director said, Mark, we would really like you
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  Speaker 4: to finish the show before you go play. Mark wants
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  Speaker 4: to play. So we waited for program director to go
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  Speaker 4: off and play. And now Mark's gonna scoot out. What's
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  Speaker 4: gonna happen though?
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  Speaker 2: If he's starting on like nine and we'll see him
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  Speaker 2: out there, Okay, you won't even see each other.
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  Speaker 3: You're fine. Yeah, he won't hear this. He doesn't listen
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  Speaker 3: to the show. Don't worry about it. True.
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  Speaker 2: I love the VIC approval of just leave, get out.
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  Speaker 2: What's a big deal? I agree? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: So again preseason game I am preseason game number two tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, here's another sort of wrinkling this. I want to
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  Speaker 2: see the amount of carries that Jonah Coalman's going to get.
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  Speaker 2: He got four in that first game, and then Davis
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  Speaker 2: Webb watched one run he goes we're good, get him out,
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  Speaker 2: not gonna risk inured to that guy.
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  Speaker 3: Is that amazing? How you can you know?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you have this inkling that a guy's got it,
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  Speaker 4: then you see him prove it, and they're not. And
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  Speaker 4: yet and yet there's other players who they keep tossing
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  Speaker 4: out there three and you're like, well, I guess this
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  Speaker 4: guy making the squad.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because Lakewold said this yesterday that the
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  Speaker 2: the final preseason game will tell you a lot about
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  Speaker 2: who's not playing.
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  Speaker 4: If you're a veteran and you're playing in the final game,
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  Speaker 4: in the second half of that final preseason game, oh yeah, yikes.
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  Speaker 2: But I wonder is this gonna be the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Do you give Coleman a couple of carries and then
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  Speaker 2: if he has a good run, you're like, okay, that's good.
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  Speaker 2: So we needed to see get him out, get him out?
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  Speaker 4: It is to me, and I've mentioned this from the
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  Speaker 4: very beginning, if you're a running back entering this league,
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  Speaker 4: you need to be able to show something immediately.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't, if you have room to grow. And
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  Speaker 2: somebody pointed this out to me Victim, which I do
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  Speaker 2: think is a sort of interesting sort of detail in this.
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  Speaker 3: R J.
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  Speaker 2: Harvey is not a finished product at running back. In
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  Speaker 2: my general way of thinking is that's a bad sign
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  Speaker 2: for somebody who enters league. There's a reason for that.
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  Speaker 2: He was a quarterback entering college. He made the position change.
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  Speaker 2: He's only been doing this for a couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't have the natural instinct, so maybe it is going
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  Speaker 2: to take him a year or two to really understand
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  Speaker 2: and hone in the details of that position.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, but I truly believe a running back
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  Speaker 4: position either you have those instincts or you don't. There's
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  Speaker 4: only so much growth you can make. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like Terrell Davis knew when to hit the hole. He
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  Speaker 4: knew when to wait in new and to hit it.
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  Speaker 4: And I think he was always that way.
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  Speaker 3: I just needed the opportunity.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure you wake up one day after four
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  Speaker 4: years of football and say, oh, this is when you
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  Speaker 4: hit it.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's all instinctual. I think there's part of r. J.
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  Speaker 2: Harvey though, that maybe he just won't be a guy.
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  Speaker 4: Who Who are some some running backs that were like
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  Speaker 4: this that were past catching guys. We look at look
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  Speaker 4: at New Orleans stable of running backs. This is what
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  Speaker 4: This is what Sean Payton does. Though you just guys
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  Speaker 4: whould catch passes. He had guys who run between the tackles.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of somebody who's almost exclusively just
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  Speaker 2: a pass catcher out of the backfield, though, and there's
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  Speaker 2: I can literally picture guys, but I can't think of
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  Speaker 2: their names because they're all role players. I can think
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  Speaker 2: of guys who did really well at both was Goss
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  Speaker 2: Brooks and I'll go back and there was there was
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  Speaker 2: a There's a guy by the name of Larry Sinners.
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  Speaker 2: He was a full back slash running back.
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  Speaker 4: I remember him and Jake Umber used to toss out
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  Speaker 4: little hitch passes him all the time, and at one
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  Speaker 4: point I think he led the Cardinals and catches one year.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the kind of guy you're talking about who
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  Speaker 4: is so lethal catching the ball out of the backfield,
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  Speaker 4: much more than running the ball.
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  Speaker 2: And it almost feels like it's a bigger strength than
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  Speaker 2: just taking the ball in a hand.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, and there's a skill there too.
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  Speaker 2: Funny I looked this up.
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  Speaker 3: Yea.
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  Speaker 2: Past catching running backs include historical grades. Marshal fuck Larry
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  Speaker 2: centers right there, just.
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  Speaker 4: Cent set records in a couple of those years, Ladanian
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  Speaker 4: Tomlinson's listed, although I remember lt More as a runner two.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean Austin Eckler was a runner too,
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  Speaker 2: but Christian McCaffrey. Austin Eckler was huge in the past
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  Speaker 2: game his entire career. Now, he did run the football too,
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  Speaker 2: But there are guys that I think just excel more.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's just getting into open
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  Speaker 2: space making a guy miss that sort of thing instead
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  Speaker 2: of identifying the hole or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what makes JK.
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  Speaker 4: Dobbins special as a running back because you watch practice,
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  Speaker 4: I mean he doesn't look different, he looks the same.
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  Speaker 2: His ability to just wait for the whole to op
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  Speaker 2: patience and then identify when it's ready.
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  Speaker 3: And then explode.
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  Speaker 2: And that's again, I don't think that's skill you can teach.
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  Speaker 2: You just have that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you could try to teach it all you
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  Speaker 3: want to. And R. J.
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  Speaker 2: Harvey, Look, by the way, if you guys were wondering,
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  Speaker 2: because we were wondering yesterday when the Broncos signed Taylor Rapp,
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  Speaker 2: the former second round safety who has been with the Rams,
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  Speaker 2: and then on why am I blinking? Who was just
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  Speaker 2: with Buffalo detail from Chris thomasin yesterday that unlike the
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  Speaker 2: injuries of Matt Henningson and Michael Dieter, that those guys
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  Speaker 2: were both put on season ending IR, they waved Lavel
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  Speaker 2: Bailey with an injury designation, so if he goes unclaimed,
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  Speaker 2: he would go to the Broncos IR and he could
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  Speaker 2: technically play against His season is not done. If you remember,
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  Speaker 2: Leavell Bailey was the guy last year who really showed
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  Speaker 2: up in camp and and made a case on the
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  Speaker 2: squad the broken leg that he suffered. But I think
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  Speaker 2: part of why Taylor rap comes in is there's just
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  Speaker 2: an extra spot available. You go out and grab some
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  Speaker 2: guy with some talent, you know, especially given that the
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  Speaker 2: Broncos are probably gonna lose some guys that they don't
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  Speaker 2: want to at the end of this training camp when
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  Speaker 2: they get down to cut down day and was it
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  Speaker 2: nine days from now anything?
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  Speaker 3: I think Jeff said it yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: I think he said the thirtieth of August is cut
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  Speaker 4: down yeah, yeah, and nine days yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And they used to do differently. They used to have
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  Speaker 3: two cutdown days.
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  Speaker 4: Now it's just one massive purge and it leads to
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  Speaker 4: mass chaos too, because teams are trying to claim dudes
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  Speaker 4: from other rosters, and those two weeks before the first
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  Speaker 4: game of the season turned into a lot of roster claims.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know. If you're a GM, how do
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  Speaker 2: you handle think about this. There's like ninety guys in
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  Speaker 2: a training camp. Fifty three make the roster. So take
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  Speaker 2: thirty seven times thirty two. It's a thousand people got
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  Speaker 2: How was a GM? Can you keep up with that
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  Speaker 2: amount of tape? You got a lot of people on
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  Speaker 2: your staff. You got a lot of eyeballs out there.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only that's the only way to do it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you got people in charge. You know, there's
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  Speaker 2: in the scouting department.
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  Speaker 4: There's pro scouts and there's college scouts, and obviously those
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  Speaker 4: define what they are, but the pro scouts are just
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  Speaker 4: as important because you're scouting literally those players that make rosters.
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  Speaker 2: Did you want did you watch any of the preseason
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  Speaker 2: game last night?
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  Speaker 4: I watched a little bit. You know, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: I I ended up because I missed it the first time.
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  Speaker 4: I ended up watching episode three of Hard Knocks with
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  Speaker 4: the Sea OWX.
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  Speaker 2: I still haven't watched it.
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  Speaker 3: You haven't watched it? Okay, so it's hard for me
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  Speaker 3: to tell you this.
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  Speaker 4: My biggest takeaway from this Hard Knocks is how happy
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  Speaker 4: those guys are. I know, you know, like I watch,
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  Speaker 4: I watch other seasons and other teams. Is that what
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  Speaker 4: winning a super Bowl comes with? Because they've never done
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  Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe it is.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it is that super Bowl honeymoon. But like, these
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  Speaker 4: dudes are happy to practice and happy to work, and
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  Speaker 4: everybody's happy, go lucky. That's my takeaway from Seattle. They're
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  Speaker 4: singing along in meeting rooms. It's almost like band camp.
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  Speaker 4: I calmed down a little bit here.
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  Speaker 3: You know, try to stack on my band camp.
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  Speaker 2: Vic I got. That's all I got. Here's what I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to tell you. And watching I only watched the
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  Speaker 2: preseason game the first half last night because they wanted
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  Speaker 2: to watch Mendoza. But in watching Mendoza, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I saw yesterday was Mike Washington Junior looked really good. Again.
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  Speaker 2: That's six foot three out of Arkansas a lot.
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  Speaker 3: See.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, he's not the Sean Payton prototype because
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  Speaker 2: he just huge.
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  Speaker 3: He's six foot three.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he takes all the six foot three guys
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  Speaker 4: and plays aim at receiver right, not running back.
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  Speaker 2: So he looked good. I wanted to ask you this though,
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  Speaker 2: because I think I'm kind of out now now it's
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  Speaker 2: a preseason game. I don't really care he played last night.
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  Speaker 2: I only got a few snaps. What am I supposed
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  Speaker 2: to do with c J. Stroud?
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  Speaker 4: The way he and what he did in the playoffs
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  Speaker 4: was the craziest thing ever.
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  Speaker 2: They had games, they had New England beat.
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  Speaker 4: And they just kept you remember they had that game one, yes,
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  Speaker 4: if not for their quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: That's hard to stomach.
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  Speaker 4: That's hard to when you go back and look at
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  Speaker 4: that tape, if you have a chance to rewatch that game,
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  Speaker 4: you're like, oh my god, their defense is so good,
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, they got the ball in prime position.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, what is their quarterback doing? So here's
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  Speaker 2: what happened. He had an interception.
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  Speaker 4: In the wild card game against the Steelers. Now it
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  Speaker 4: didn't matter because the Steelers were terrible and they beat
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  Speaker 4: them thirty to six. In the New England game, he
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  Speaker 4: had four interceptions, and I know there was like fumbles.
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  Speaker 2: I think they were mixed in with that too. I
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  Speaker 2: can't it doesn't say this on the game log, so
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how many of those were. But here's
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  Speaker 2: the difference. The Houston Texans and Denver Broncos, I think
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  Speaker 2: were built in a very similar way. They have this
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  Speaker 2: elite level defense. They have some weapons on offense that
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  Speaker 2: you trust and you think are are pretty valuable. But
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  Speaker 2: it all kind of comes down to how does your
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  Speaker 2: quarterback play. Bonnicks doesn't do what c J. Stroud does,
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  Speaker 2: whatever you think of bon Nicks. If the offense is
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  Speaker 2: start and stop vic he doesn't make mistakes like that.
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  Speaker 2: How often does Bonicks really turn the ball up?
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: He doesn't.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons why Sean Payton coveted him.
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, those are stats that he remember he enumerated
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: all the sacks he takes, the turnovers, and that those
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: are quarterback stats as much as they are anything. Ye,
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: you're exactly right, which is why, which is why it's
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: so important for bone Nicks to still have that ability
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: to plant that foot in the ground and run, yes,
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: because that's part of not turning the ball over.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: That's part of it totally.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: And if you don't have that ability anymore, what do
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: you do? You toss it up there and that's how
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: turnovers happen. So you ask, what am I going to
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: look for tonight? It's hard to look for a guy's ankle.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Status, but just to see if he moves.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: I want to see if he moves.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. Preseason game number two tonight against the Packers
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: for the Broncos three oh three five four nine to two.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Five are out here at Metal Hills for the ABS
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Alumni Charity Golf Tournament. Back after this all right, back
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: here at.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: Meadow Hills for the AVS Alumni Charity Golf Tournament. Vict
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: There is one way been thinking about this that the Broncos,
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, the Nuggets can make everybody not forget but
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: feel a lot better about losing Peyton Watson.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: And it's that if one of these guys, and it
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter who it is, Badley, Trevin Brazil, Alpha Diallo,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Bryce Hopkins, Deron Holmes, if somebody can step up and
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: play a role that looks like you can trust them
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: for twenty minutes, a night, rotational player, that can make
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: this feel a lot better.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: The problem is you just don't know that yet. Dude, Listen,
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: you can call me whatever you want. I think I'm
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: taking a practical approach to this roster and I've said
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: time and time again, this team, this roster is not
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: as talented as it was yesterday. You'd be dumb to
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: think anything different. Losing Peyton Watson doesn't make you more talent.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: How it handles, how the chemistry comes together, we don't know.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: We don't know what this roster is going to look
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: like in four or five months. Have no idea. They
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: hope it's good, it may not be. It may suck.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Ye now sucks a relative term. When you have Nikolaokic
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: and this starting five, you're going to win around fifty
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: games plus, you're just going to Yep, that's what they've done.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: They've proven to they're going to do that again. When
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: I say that in those terms, I mean can you contend?
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: So let me start with that.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Is this a contending team if.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: They stay healthy?
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: And I think if Aaron Gordon it's that he's the
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: lynch pin, he's the lynch pin.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: He's the one guy.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: If he stays healthy and he plays the big games,
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: I think this team could still beat anybody. But you
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: cannot overlook this. The bench took a big hit, and
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: the bench has a lot to prove. Yeah, just look
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: at the bench financially. I want you to look.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Take a look at the bench right now. Do you
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: know I did the numbers yesterday.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: The combined salaries of every bench player on this team
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: current is less than the total salary of Aaron Gordon,
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: less than the total salary of Did you know that
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: the combined salaries of the entire bench unit is half
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: of what Joker makes. No, this is not about money,
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: because there's more to it than money. Minimums and rookie
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Because the point I'm getting at there's your disparity in
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: a nutshell, in a financial nutshell, and you're asking players
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: who are minimum contracts to play big roles.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's asking a lot. It's tough, and it's
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: not somebody who maybe that's like a Tim Hardaway junior. Anyway,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: that is a proven piece of a rotation. It was
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: a proven commodity.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he can.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: That's a proven commodity that you knew what you knew
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: what you were going to get out of him.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: You know, we still don't know what we're going to
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: get out of Julian Strouther.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: We hope we can get you know, like if Julian
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: can fill that Hardaway role, come in, get you a
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: few threes, stay hot off the off the bench.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Perfect, perfect.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: That's the hope that that's why you draft and develop,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: that these guys can do that.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And that's one of the things that kills me is.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: I hate that I still don't have answers for Julian
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Strawther yet on what he is now.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: A lot of his stuff has been kind of due
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: to injury. Right, he's nottten an opportunity well, and then
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: he's been hurt and then that opportunity kind of like Waynes,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I could.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Make the argument that he should have saw more playing
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: time in the Minnesota series. Oh, I think so too. Yeah,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, he was healthy then, and he's somebody.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: You know what's funny is that I don't know how
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: many Nuggets players have this ability, but his ability to
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: get in the paint and hit the little floater shot. Yeah,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: like that's.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: A weekend score he can finish.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, But you gotta find other people to sort
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: of step up and fill these voids. Because here's what
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I mean. I don't think I'm wrong here, maybe unless
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I'm forgetting somebody and correct me. Vic. The Nuggets starting five,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: we know very well, we know exactly what they're capable
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: of doing. We know that when their health, they're one
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: of the best units in the league. And that's why
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: you no matter what, if you have nicolea. Jokic, you
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: are going to be a playoff team. Question is what's
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: after at all? From a proven standpoint? Huh? If you
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: win your first round series, that's a plus because they
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: couldn't do it last year. No, no, no, no, so no, sorry,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the bench unit. What comes after the
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: starting five? What's known after that? Uh, well, go down
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: the units, you tell me. I mean there's Spencer Jones.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I mean Spencer Jones. Know, we know what kind of
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: commodity Spencer Jones is.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: We know he's the kind of guy that will come in,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: will defend, will make open threes. He's proven that and
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: and you know what, he deserved the contract he got
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: because he played it out.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: So all right, that's a commodity.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: We know what he can do, Julian when given the opportunity,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: we know what he can do, but he hasn't done
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: it at a consistent level.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever, resistency.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: I have no idea about some of these other guys.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, Tyus Jones is a veteran, but I don't know.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: He's like, I don't know where his game is right now.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Marvin Bagley, I have no idea. Lonnie Walker, I have
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: no idea. Alfie Alpha Diallo, no idea.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: And though, and that's the issue.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Doron Holmes, no idea. What Zeke? Do we know Zeke?
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Or do we not know? I don't know. I mean
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: it's been five years and I still I don't know
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: who he is. That's what's wed.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: You're right that that is exactly that fear of the
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: unknown of what you're getting and the difference between this
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: year's roster and last year's roster. It's so crazy. It's
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: perception too. Yeah, like you looked at last year's bench.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Oh I know what Brucey b does. Oh, I know
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: what Tim Hardaway does. Oh Jonas Valanchuna, So I.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Know what he does.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: And you had that warmth that you know what they are.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Now did it work at the end of.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: The day, Well, did Tim Hardaway work? Yes? Yeah? But
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: did it did it work? It was affected by other
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: factors And that's the problem, Like.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: I it could have if if people stayed healthy, it
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: could have.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what if this works.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: For this work?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: What is work?
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Mean?
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: I mean you contend again and for that to happen.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: You're exactly right. You're asking a lot of those players
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: that you just mentioned to play so above the board
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: more than what you expect that you're like, WHOA, I
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: had no idea this was coming.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Like Alfa Diiello and Lonnie Walker weren't playing NBA basketball.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: They we're playing in this league. That's asking a lot.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: That's that's asking a lot. You listen, man, this is
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: what it is. But this is what I think I've
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: been saying for the last few months. This is what
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: was coming.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well we knew again, we knew in a massive
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: trade at the top, which they didn't pull off for
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: whatever reasons.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: And when I said the top, I don't mean the
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: tippy top.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Barring a massive transfer of wealth with one of those
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: big salaries.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: This is what you're You're left with three other five
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: four nine two five. Let me give you a stat
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: real quick, and let me just just tell me what
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: you think when you hear this. Players with fifty plus
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: passing touchdowns and ten plus scrimmage touchdowns over the last
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: two seasons see it again. Fifty plus passing touchdowns, ten
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: plus scrimmage touchdown. Basically rushing, but you could also have
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: receiving in there. What about it. There's only two guys
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: and that have been in that category over the last
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: two years, that is Josh Allen and Bnicks. Really, Bonis
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: is the only player ever to do that in his
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: first two seasons.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I had no idea bo Knicks. You throw out some
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: of these stats and it makes you go, wow.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Fifty passing touchdowns ten touchdowns coming from elsewhere is what
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: we'll call it. And it's only him and Josh Allen
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: over the last two years to do that. And you
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: look at all these categories. It's what's funny, it's it's
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: the same thing I heard the Colin Cowhard talking about this.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: You know, you would be shocked to realize that if
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: you put all the stats together, win loss record, passer rating, passing, touchdowns, interceptions,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: all these different details, right, all the things that make
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: a We look at these stats and that's what makes
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: a good quarterback. Do you know who's like top three
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: in all those categories over the past three years is
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Jared Goff And nobody would put him in that in
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: that echelon of quarterback in the league. But it feels
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: like bo Nix is kind of in this spot where
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: he's got all these numbers, he's got all these wins,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: he's got all these things, and it's still kind of
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: like a I don't know what to do with this
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: guy thing.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Well, you know what sold it for me were that
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: divisional playoff game and the guy you just compared him to.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: That's yeah, bow Up played Josh Yep.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: And I don't care what anybody says to me.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, well, you know, playing different defenses and you know,
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: different situation, it doesn't matter in the biggest game of
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: the year up to that date. On the field, my
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: eyes watched the game. One quarterback out played the other.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: One quarterback made fewer mistake, One quarterback showed more poise.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: That quarterback was bon Nicks. Yeah, that am I wrong?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I you know what's funny? Bo Nicks feels a lot
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: like a quarterback that Vic Fangio would have loved here
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: where you don't make too many mistakes. Maybe everything's not
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: great all the time, but you you have a reliable
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: piece that's under center for you. You're never gonna Here's
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: what I've never felt with bow and correct me if
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I if you disagree. I've never felt panicked with him.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I've been disappointed.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: I've been like, hey, let's get this offense going, But
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: I've never been like, please don't make a mistake, Please
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: don't because he doesn't do that.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah you know why too.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: The other thing that Bo brings you is a sense
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: of calm because you know what he's about.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: That guy's all about football. Yep, he's a serious dude.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: What was the famous quote, We don't have clowns, Got
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: no clowns, Got no clowns.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: That's who he is. So you're entrusting a professional.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, this isn't some clown out there playing
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: video games at home, making these weird praising himself and
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: making these weird predictions about what he's going to do.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: He just does it.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And there's some assurance to that as a fan, like, Okay,
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: we're gonna let the adults handle this.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: And he's already three years into the league, one of
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: those guys. He's an adult. He's felt like that from
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: the very beginning. Now, look, he came in the league,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: you know, older and more mature than I guess most
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: rookie quarterbacks would be. But I think that's part and
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: parcel at how he's had the success that he's had.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Remember we're just talking to Schefter on Tuesday and he
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: was talking about, this was week one of the preseason,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: how many rookie quarterbacks looked great in their debuts, and
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: he goes, you want to know why? They're all fourth
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: and fifth year guys that have entered the league.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: They're all older guys now, Like Carson Beck comes out
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: in preseason and.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: He looks great. Well, this is his sixth year removed
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: from high scho like, he's an older guy who's got
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: plenty of experience. It probably helps a little bit. But again,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Game two tonight for the Broncos as they take on
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers. Do you make anything of an
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: eight game preseason winning streak? No, who has that?
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: The Broncos too, they've won eight in a row. Well,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: the fact that I had no knowledge of that tells me.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Tells you what I make of that. It means absolutely nothing.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Here's what's funny. Sean Payton yesterday or this week, when
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: he was asked about that, he goes, well, it's because
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: we got there and we try and win every game,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: and that's our goal, even the preseason. We try and win.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: If they had an eight game losing streak with Sean
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Payton care at all. It's a nice feather in your cap.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: It's a good thing you can say, but it doesn't
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: he doesn't actually care. There's a reason they don't count
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: in the standings, bro, there's a reason they don't count.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: And I really don't know what to tell you.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: We're watching these games for different reasons. It's really the
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: only part of the football season where the final score
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: truly does not matter. Yeah, I love watching and I
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: hate to put her on blast, but I am. I
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: love watching like preseason games with my mom because for her,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: I try to explain that these games don't mean anything,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: but it just doesn't.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: She doesn't get it. Yeah, So we'll be watching.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: A preseason hoops game or a preseason football game, and
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: she'll live and die by everything.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, it's it's it's gonna be.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: This is don't get your blood pressure up over them.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: What do you mean, It's just this is not don't worry.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, you know by My mother had a similar thing.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: She it would be a regular season game. My mom
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: has one team she cares about. She cares about the
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Kansastate Wildcats. That's where she went to school. She watches
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: a football game and vic, this guy runs for I
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: mean a one yard run the Cannas states on defense,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: and she yells.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Don't let him get that far. That mama was a yard.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: I was actually good on them. The greatest comment I've
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: ever heard watching football game with my family was my
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: late grandmother No, no.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Mad, bless hers soul. We'd be watching that.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: We were watching Broncos game one day and it was
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: one of those offensive futured days where the Broncos kept
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: punting the ball away and finally, after about the fifth
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: punch shoes in Italian? Why do we keep giving them
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: the ball?
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Just entirely confused. If you're supposed to score, well you tell,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: would you give it to him? Give me too?
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: And all I could do at that point is agree
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: with her.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, they shouldn't be doing that.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question, because preseason college football rankings,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: because this starts next week with the week zero.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Give me two. I know that we have no idea
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: what to make of these preseason rankings or who's gonna
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: be good and who's not. Do you think it's weird
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: that Indiana's at eight?
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Though? Uh? No, you're a defending champion.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: I think your owed uh some degree of respect, and
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: I think they I think that's more of a Signetti thing.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Well I thought it was like I thought, that's not low.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, I see, you think they should be higher.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Well they lost a ton they did.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, and you lose, you lose Mendoza, right, you
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: lose the Heisman Trophy winner.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: He took some big hits, big hits. A lot of
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: teams did.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: So I'm just I'm gonna be in the place where
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to question Kurt Signetti about anything, I
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: put anything until that guy starts to lose because he
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: just hasn't as much as that that quote has lived
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: with him forever.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is true. You know what, there are a
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: lot of.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: People people in college football who can't wait for him
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: to come back down to earth. If I tell you what,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: and trust me, that quote will come back around. If
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: many times, if Indiana goes eight and four this year
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: or something, you were going to see four of the
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: biggest celebrations by an opposing team you've ever seen.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Like it is going to be insane with
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: how much they are going to rub it in their
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: face because they're like.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's just human nature.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: Well yeah, you just want to be like, hey, whatever
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: you said about never losing, how about this each one
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: of these you started by asking me, am I surprised
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: whatever about them being eighth.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: I'm still surprised that we take so much stock in
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: these AP or coaches preseason.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Polls as if they really mattered.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: So I wanted to ask you, did you know last year?
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Did you know last year Indiana became the first team
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: in like fifteen years to win the national championship without
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: starting the season ranked in the top six. You know
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: where they started the season ranked last year? This is
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: the eight people sixteen twenty first. Yeah, they won the
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: national championship.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: They also lost one game the year prior to in
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: the Big Ten. And it's just people didn't take it seriously,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: which I think should be a message to some other people,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: especially if you're if you're an eleven win team in
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: the SEC, the Big Ten, maybe even if it's not
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: a marque name, you take that a little seriously. But
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about these rankings. I know
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: they're meaningless. I do kind of like that we do it, though,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: because I like watching on a Saturday and I see
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: the numbers. I see the numbers next to the schools.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: If they didn't do it, if they didn't do it,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: if they did it, like the college football playoff rankings,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: but they wait until week eight. I want to know
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: what's number fifteen versus number nine or whatever.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: You know, they should just signing numbers all the way
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: up to like one hundred and fifty, just to give
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: people assemblance.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Why we got number ninety two to sixty four today?
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Provide some motivation. I like it anyway. Three oh three
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: five four nine two five.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: We're out here at Mento Hills for the AVS Alumni
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Charity golf tournament.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Out here every year for that. And reminder to you guys.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Next week we got something going on. Rock paper Scissors
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: a trip to Kansas City. Huh we start qualifying sixty
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: four person Rock paper Scissors tournament. What qualifiers start next week?
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: The winner gets airfare, hotel, and tickets to see Denver
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: take on Kansas City.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Like we're going to hold an actual tournament with people shamboing. Yeah,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: it all starts next week.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Where's this happening?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: It's powered by bud Light, the official beer sponsor to the
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. Remember to enjoy responsibly. But yes, that's exactly
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: what's happening where like that is an undisclosed location. I mean,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: we know where it's going to be. I can't say
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: that yet though, but it's going to be a giant
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Well we need to establish those the rules because me
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: and Nelly talked about this. This is a very important question.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Are you rock paper scissors or are you rock paper scissors? Shoot?
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: I'm a bam bam boom. You're a bam bam boom.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: I like the bam bamboom the amount of people in
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: the appetizer that were shoot people.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: And it has to be a Colorado thing.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I just told you what I am.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I'm a boom boom bam.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a bam bamboom either way.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: What about bam boom bam or boom bam boom.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Cool Carl anyway.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: So that's what's happening next week, so stay tuned for that.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: We had drunk Takes next.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: All right, one final time out here from Meadow Hills
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: for the AVS Alumni Charity Golf Tournament.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: What's what were you giggling at?
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Uh, this is like a new segment.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: And I don't want to dismiss this on moms because
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: my dad has said some things, my brothers have said
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: some things, but things mom would say during the game.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: This this Texas from Jake best mom quote. While I
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: was watching a game, his mom said, why are they
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: holding a D in a gate in the crowd? Because
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: anytime they were on defense after the crowd they chanced
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: D gate.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: That's good, nailed it.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Hang on a second, if you if you were uninitiated
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: D gate, what do you think D is for Denver?
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: And then the gate is uh, swing a play, It's
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: a swinging ga.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Let's get in on this there, everybody D gate. I
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: think we should start doing that. The brunckers got thrown stuff.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: I mean what mcgahe's the incomplete guy? Yes, yes, what
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: did that start?
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: By the Oh? I don't know.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: I hate it, but it's all right. I don't want
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: to get into it.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: I don't want to offend or disrespect.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Why do you hate it?
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: It's just so dumb. Here's why. You know.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Every time I say that I'm here, we go, I'm
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: gonna get a bunch of texts.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's tradition. It's what we do.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I don't care. I think it's it's so you can
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: have dumb traditions.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it's just dumb.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Here's here's the problem. Though.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: If you have one of those games with the quarterback
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: completes nineteen straight passes and then visiting a pleasure, You're like, oh, boy,
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: do we really have to do it?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Here? More embarrassing to us. I've been here all day.
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: And I've asked Connor McGahee a few times. I've said,
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: what do you think about it? And he always goes, well,
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: I'm not the one actually saying incomplete. I just get
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: everyone else to say it.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, listen, he gonna say it's not his fault.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: It's a tradition. And I love traditions. I'll never say
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: I'll never be counter tradition, right, I just see, here
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: we go. You're dumb, victor, I am.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: It's always the best response, by the way, that is,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: oh that's dumb. You're dumb.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: You're dumb. I am dumb.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I mean you don't have to like everything, Kevin says
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: incompleted Hold on now he hit the straw poll button
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: for me again. We've done it once already, today I
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: do it again. I want to see I want to
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: see what the people think of this. Well, obviously it's
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: still they're still doing it. Yeah, straw pole here three
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: oh three, five, four nine two five is the incomplete
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: chant fun or stupid?
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, at the core of it, it's like, oh,
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: those Denver fans, they know how they know their syllables
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: geniuses like Buffalo fans. You know, Buffalo fans jump off
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: RVs on the tables. But those those Denver fans when
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: it comes to in syllables, some please.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Hang on, fun one both. Somebody says, that's fine, an
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: idiotic tradition.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which is which is fine?
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: It's fine. I'm not here to tell you it ruins
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: my day. I just can't find myself at the game
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: with my d gate.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Hang on, hang on, I gotta get to the bottom
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: of something.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: What like when it started?
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Nope, let's see here. Uh, the most incompletions ever thrown
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: against the Denver Broncos. Oh, this is going back to
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: nineteen sixty seven, that's what. It's way too early, it
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: says Joe Namath at thirty six. Can you imagine thirty
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: six times over? Three hours doing an incomplete. Although I've
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: always been fascinated about the chant. What if you played
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: a team that ran an option offense and never threw
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: the ball. Oh, well, then the incomplete you can get
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: jack on that one.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: The two dude, you get like the air Force, like
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: they fake it, they drop back and heave won.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Then you sort of screwed.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty six.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: So that day it was nineteen sixty seven, Joe Namath
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: was twenty four of sixty passing the football sixty passing
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: attempts anyway, So we got drunk takes coming up here
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: and just a couple of minutes again, Vic, just one
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: last sort of recap.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: What uh, what do you want to see from the
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Broncos game to tonight? What you're looking for? Uh? Yes,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I'll remind you again they do play tonight. In case.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: I want to see efficiency like I saw in Atlanta
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: out of the second quarterback. I want to see efficiency
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: from the first team in the first team quarterback. I
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: want to see plays come in. I want to be
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: plays called. I don't want The worst thing you noticed
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: during games is when Bowl looks frustrated because he can't
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: get a play call or an offensive Lineman is off
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: sides and.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Everybody's like, ah, I want to see.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: That's gotta be clean. Yeah, and if that's clean, that
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: makes clean and in rhythm. I like it clean and rhythm.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: I like this one better. It textually says, and the
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: past was stupid.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I like those better. We could do something.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: If you're gonna throw, if you're gonna do the syllable thing,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: it's gotta be three syllable word.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: It's gotta.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Give me a synonym for incomplete, and we'll see if
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: it works much the same way. All right, something that
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: doesn't find the receiver, it's it's not processed on performed, Okay,
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: it workfficient, frag man.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Terry, No, no, that's not gonna work. Insufficient.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: I like, yeah, I don't think that there's synonyms for
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: incomplete in football.
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: I don't think defective, dfective.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: That's where the dgate comes in. That's the gate. Yeah,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: that's what that is.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Hey, listen, all in good fun.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: The beauty of going to a live sporting event is
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: it's a community thing. Everybody has fun with it. It's
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: you know, if people yell things at sorry. I just
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: like how simple this is. And the past was not
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: that good, or you could get more poetic.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Whoa fully short?
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: We need We need like a section of that crowd
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: that is gonna go rogue and do their own thing
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: and have everybody wondering what they're doing. All right, So
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: if you're gonna say incomplete, at least at least give
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: me a little more detail.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, wait a minute, what kind of past was it?
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: If people are at the game tonight, people going to
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: the game, can somebody please record themselves yelling D Gate,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: D Gate please? I want it so badly, all right?
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: You know, I think the funniest if somebody throws a
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: pass that sails out of bounds and it's rather than complete?
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: What was that? Just keep keep changing it up, all right?
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: So I was told we have a fruitful drunk Takes today,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: So let's get to our favorite part of the week. Please, Nelly,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: how's your Lombardyan Kane person du drunk Takes?
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: For the record, I think this sort of dehumanizes us,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: and it really cracks out our credibility as a show.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Drunk Takes Drunk Takes eclipsons throughout the week. We saw
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: him down to half speed. It makes it sound like
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: we're hammered and Nelly.
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: Suddenly you naked men five in this shower. We're on
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: a soapy, slippery floor, and I'm like a team captain
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: trying to figure out how how do I get in there?
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: I mean, how do you get in there with two
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: naked men Jesus hustling in a shower.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: It's a good question.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Chad sounds it.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: That's he's perfect for this segment.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Chad Brown told that story Vic because it was like, Hey,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: there's a camp fight.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Is this a bad thing?
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: And he goes, I've seen this linger throughout the season,
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: and he talked about two dudes were fighting in the
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: shower after a practice.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: What's next?
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: And I ask you question, uh huh, look at me
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: dead in the face?
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Please?
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what's a cataract?
• 42:42
  Speaker 9: It's a floating thing in your eyes when your eyes
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: get bad, start floating around and you see floats.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: That's the medical turn.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: The scientific definition. Yes, of course, for something a little
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: more simple minded.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I just love how serious it was. Look me dead
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: in the face, what's a catract? What's next? Elly? Banana
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: puppet up motions. I'll tell you what you can do
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: with that.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: Banana would you like to know. I, oh, no kinds.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Of ideas inappropriate mosure and naught emotion.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Nelly brings gifts and we get stupid.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, what's next?
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: Get up off the ground without using your hands.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: That's a good exercise.
• 43:40
  Speaker 8: It is a very h common uh metro bro sexual
• 43:49
  Speaker 8: kind of.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: YouTube.
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: Sure exercise influencer test.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm coming now, do you know that? That's
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: what I'm becoming Mosure in his uh, his his fight
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: to be seen as athletic is trying to just get
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: off the ground with no hands, no one. That's one
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: of the things he's doing. What do you mean, like
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: just pop up correct, like a dance floor type thing?
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Or no no, I no no no no, not like
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: killing you like you're just sitting on your butt and
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: then you stand up without your hands. How hard is that?
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Exactly?
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: That's my point that the metro Yes, that's his thing.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: We should have known when we asked, Moser, you know
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: what's the last athletic achieve me you can no longer do?
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: And what did he say, the lawn off ladder? Yes,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: both of those. What's next? Are you are you a breath?
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: No?
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Okay? Do I sound out of breath. I've bending over.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: That's right. Moser was out of breath feet because he
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: dropped something and so he went down. He went like
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: this went one this way and one this way, came
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: up and he was its like, are you okay? He
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: has got a tie on the air one morning. I know,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: great content though, if you do it, dude on the air. Yeah,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: what's the next?
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: Have you ever eaten the cherries and seen how many
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: these the seeds you could just fit.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: In your mouth?
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: No? I spit them out when I'm done with the cherry.
• 45:35
  Speaker 9: And then and then spit him out machine gun style.
• 45:44
  Speaker 9: I take my lovely wife to a nice fruit stand
• 45:50
  Speaker 9: on Valentine's.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: See how many cherry pitsch can fit their mount. What
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: a great idea.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: That whole conversation emanated from why at sporting events do
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: we have hot dogs, pretzels, pizza but we don't have peaches?
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: We don't have a fruit stand. I mean I would
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: love a fruit stand. I think you said fruits would
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: love a.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: Good pair a football, A connector read honest to God?
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: All right, Nelly?
• 46:20
  Speaker 9: One more, I want to see Jonah Coleman move the
• 46:25
  Speaker 9: line of scrimmage.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: I want to see him moved the chains. I want
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: Jonah and as a bonus, I want two bonuses.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: I want to tied end to show me something.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: Okay, you want a Jonah and a bona Iah.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: And a bonus. I'll just fully say the word bonus. Yeah,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: such an idiot. All right, I don't spotify where you
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: can find the podcast. Thank you all for tuning in
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: again out here at Meadow Hills the AVS Alumni Charity
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: golf tournament. As we are every year. You miss any conversations.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: We had Tyson Barry with jam l We had uh
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Peter Forsburg obviously, who was going to renew his faith
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: in Sweden by going to ikea yes to this and
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: just sit around.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Who also, when he had the operation on his spleen asked,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: am I going to die? And they're like.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Nelly before one more?
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: My comment to Tyson Barry just a just an offhandrew question.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: I didn't find it rude. If you have that handy,
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: that'd be great. Well, you look like you've been drinking
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: a bunch of your own beer.
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: You didn't actually drunk. Take you're hammering chili ones and
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: started talking smash all right.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Everybody, have a wonderful weekend, we'll talk to you on Monday.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Levicy