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- Lucas: So there is this persistent idea in corporate America that if you cannot see your employees, you cannot trust them to work. Luna: And that idea has spawned an entire industry of employee monitoring software — screen trackers, keystroke loggers, webcam snapshots every ten minutes. Lucas: Right. The global employee monitoring market was around one point two billion dollars in 2024 and it keeps growing. But here is the problem: the data increasingly shows that surveillance tools do not boost productivity. They actually hurt it. Luna: There is a specific study I want to get to that really drills into this. Microsoft's Workplace Analytics group published research in late 2025 looking at over thirty thousand remote and hybrid workers across multiple industries. Lucas: And the headline finding was stark. Teams that used activity monitoring — screen time trackers, mouse movement sensors — saw a twelve percent drop in overall project output compared to teams that did not use them. Not a one-time dip. Sustained over a six-month period. Luna: That is a massive effect. Twelve percent. And I think the intuitive reason is that surveillance shifts worker behavior from doing the right thing to looking busy. Lucas: Absolutely. The paper called it the 'performative productivity' trap. When you know your keystrokes are being counted, you start generating more keystrokes — even if they are deleting the same paragraph and rewriting it. Meanwhile, deep strategic thinking, which often looks like staring at a wall, gets punished. Luna: I have talked to engineers at companies that use these tools, and they describe deliberately moving their mouse every few minutes while reading documentation, because the system flags inactivity. It is absurd. Lucas: It is a classic Goodhart's Law situation: when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure. The monitoring data becomes a vanity metric that managers use to justify the tool, while actual value creation declines. Lucas: And there is a second-order effect that the Microsoft study also captured: attrition. Teams under constant monitoring had a twenty-two percent higher voluntary turnover rate over the same six months. Luna: Because nobody wants to work in a panopticon. And the people who leave first tend to be the most skilled — they have options. Lucas: Which means the monitoring tools are effectively selecting for the employees who either do not mind being watched or who cannot afford to leave. That is not a recipe for high-performance culture. Lucas: Let me give you a contrasting example. GitLab has been fully remote since 2014. They have over two thousand employees across sixty-five countries. They do not use any screen monitoring software. Luna: And they are one of the most transparent companies in terms of output. Everything is documented in merge requests and issue boards. The work is visible by its content, not by its activity. Lucas: Exactly. Basecamp is another one. Jason Fried has written for years about how they trust people to work when and how they want, and they evaluate based on what ships, not based on hours logged. Both companies have higher retention and — anecdotally — higher per-person revenue than industry averages. Luna: So if the evidence against monitoring is so clear, why do companies keep buying it? I think part of it is middle-manager anxiety. You have managers who were promoted because they were good individual contributors, and they suddenly have a team they cannot see, and they feel powerless. Lucas: That is a big part of it. The monitoring software is a security blanket for managers who never learned how to manage outcomes instead of activity. And the software vendors sell into that fear — 'know exactly what your team is doing at all times.' Lucas: But the irony is that the companies that have the strongest remote cultures, like GitLab or Zapier, invest heavily in manager training around asynchronous communication and goal-setting. They do not need the spyware because they have built the muscle of outcome-based management. Luna: Let me play the other side for a moment. There are industries where monitoring might be justified — call centers, data entry, anything where output is truly measurable by keystroke or call handle time. But those are a shrinking share of the workforce. Lucas: That is a fair distinction. The Microsoft study focused on knowledge workers — software developers, marketers, analysts, managers — where the work is inherently cognitive and nonlinear. For that group, the evidence is overwhelming that surveillance backfires. Lucas: And even in call centers, there is new research from Harvard Business School showing that when managers use monitoring data to coach employees rather than punish them, performance improves. It is about the culture around the tool, not the tool itself. Luna: Right. The tool can be neutral, but the default corporate instinct is to use it as a whip, not a lens. Lucas: If today's episode was useful to you and you want to keep it ad-free, buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo helps. Luna: Yeah, listener support is what keeps this show independent and free. We don't run ads, and that is a choice we want to keep making. Lucas: So back to the trend: I think we are actually seeing a small backlash against monitoring tools. California passed a bill in 2025 requiring employers to notify workers of any electronic monitoring and to disclose how the data is used. The EU's GDPR already restricts it heavily. Luna: And a few startups are now marketing themselves as 'privacy-first' remote companies — they publish their monitoring policies publicly, which is a competitive signal for talent. Lucas: There is a company called Sourse that builds collaboration tools with zero telemetry on individual users. They only track team-level aggregate metrics. And they are growing fast because teams are demanding it. Luna: That is fascinating. So the market is starting to segment between surveillance-heavy firms and trust-based firms, and the talent flow is increasingly toward the latter. Lucas: I think that is the long-term trajectory. The companies that treat monitoring as a crutch will eventually be outcompeted by those that build a culture of autonomy and accountability. It is not about being nice — it is about being effective. Lucas: One more data point: a survey by Owl Labs in early 2026 found that sixty-seven percent of remote workers said they would take a ten percent pay cut to work for a company that does not monitor their activity. That is a huge revealed preference. Luna: That is essentially a discount on labor for companies that can resist the surveillance urge. The math is pretty compelling. Lucas: So the question for any executive listening is: do you want the illusion of control, or do you want actual productivity? The evidence says you cannot have both. Luna: And for the rest of us who are workers — the next time a monitoring tool is announced, you now have data to push back. Twelve percent lower output, twenty-two percent higher turnover. That is a strong argument. Lucas: Exactly. It is not about resisting change. It is about insisting on better measures. The future of work should be built on trust and outcomes, not timers and screenshots.