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Wale Interview · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Real, for real celebrity joined the Breakfast Morning everybody is
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Speaker 1: DJ Envy, Angela Ye, Sharlomagne the Guy. We are the
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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club Special Guest Friend to the room, mister Wally,
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Speaker 1: what's up up that big ass? Don't you got on
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Speaker 1: your shoulder? I'm just you know, I'm in the wrestling
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Speaker 1: world like I'm gonna turning into a good guy. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I like to think of myself as a
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Speaker 1: bad guy hill man. I don't think well between them
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Speaker 1: like Stone Cold between brock Lessner. Now another album drops? Wait, wait, wait, wait,
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Speaker 1: come on? What did I tell you the gum? Please?
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Speaker 1: Every time you come here, you don't let somebody else
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Speaker 1: tell you to take some gum out your mouth? How
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Speaker 1: can you let another woman a woman you not another man?
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Speaker 1: Asked you questions? Exactly? Sure, my boss, you ask the questions. Okay,
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Speaker 1: al about nothing is out? I see everybody got their
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Speaker 1: profile picks change. The album cover is trending on Twitter.
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Speaker 1: You feel the love? Yeah, remind myself to embrace the love. Okay.
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Speaker 1: I want to be the people's champions. You had a
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Speaker 1: surprise show at sobs right, and I saw a lot
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Speaker 1: of people came out to support you there, So you
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Speaker 1: just went on Twitter and just tell people come out
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Speaker 1: yep yep um. Because I just feel like I've done
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. So you know, like all my
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Speaker 1: albums I always did like a big show Webster Hall
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Speaker 1: or Rose and whatever, like I wanted to do something
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Speaker 1: like all right, let's like not promote nothing, like let's
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Speaker 1: just you know, the day of the morning, I be like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is where we at. You know that it was
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Speaker 1: another risky move, but like just like the wrestling event,
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Speaker 1: I had to saying I was risky as hell. I
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Speaker 1: had like a like a yeah, I just just did
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Speaker 1: a jone like invited all like like Ray Mysterial Razor
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Speaker 1: Ramone like all the people that from my childhood like
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Speaker 1: and the just mixed it in with like ratchet like
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Speaker 1: girls with like Brazilians and stuff like that. Like so
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Speaker 1: it was dope like blend of like lacefront girls and
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Speaker 1: like straight up yeah yeah, like no, like we've joined
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Speaker 1: you while are you grown? You're thirty years old? You
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Speaker 1: deal with a lot of reality, always talk about a
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Speaker 1: lot of great social issues. Why do you believe in wrestling?
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Speaker 1: It's not a believe um, It's it's like it's like
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Speaker 1: improv like you know, you ever like see like whose
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Speaker 1: line is it? Anyways? And stuff like that, Like they're
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Speaker 1: thinking on their toes. So you know when you watch
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Speaker 1: a match, like they call in the spots they like,
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Speaker 1: you know, they might be like you know, elbow or
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Speaker 1: like or like like they it's like an all sequence
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Speaker 1: and they botch. They mess up all the time. And yeah,
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Speaker 1: and and and you gotta think on your toes what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like in any art form that you have
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Speaker 1: to be on your toes. I'm a fan of and like,
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Speaker 1: you know, a piece of it is just like escape
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Speaker 1: from like reality. This not hip hop, Like just get
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Speaker 1: a lot of similarity some rappers. Yeah, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, something like the like the wahala that comes
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Speaker 1: with uh like hip hop. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: But I'm a fan. You know obviously when I was
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Speaker 1: a child, I was a fan of it, like just
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Speaker 1: like believing in it. But like when you get older,
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Speaker 1: like I'm a fan of the business and how it's run,
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Speaker 1: How you have an episodic television show that's that never ends,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like they don't have reruns,
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Speaker 1: they don't have all seasons. Those athletes are in there
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Speaker 1: every you know, and they do house shows, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And the storytelling, I think it's just
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Speaker 1: amazing in it. You know what I'm saying. That's something
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Speaker 1: that I could see myself doing as far as like
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Speaker 1: writing and being a part of the creative item is
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Speaker 1: like storytelling absolutely fell down the second episode. Let's get
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Speaker 1: back to the wrestle. What did you think about when
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Speaker 1: you've seen Snoop wrestle with think that I was like,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, That's one of the things
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Speaker 1: where I wish I was in the creative room. I'm like, yo,
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Speaker 1: I like to Snoop and the whole hook and having
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Speaker 1: a moment thing, but like Snoop throwing a guy over
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Speaker 1: the thing, like come on, like up on the giant.
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Speaker 1: I mean if Floyd, if Floyd hit him flushing the
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Speaker 1: chin though, you know, like that's still drop him. You
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Speaker 1: can still drop him though. But like Snoop, that's like
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Speaker 1: he was like Snoop is all of one hundred and
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Speaker 1: forty pounds. You know what I'm saying, love dog to death.
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Speaker 1: Dog gonna make that phone call on you. He could
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Speaker 1: have done that, But I don't know my dog through
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Speaker 1: and over a two hundred and fifty pound man over
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Speaker 1: the rope like that. But you know, it's all in
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Speaker 1: good fun and you got a lot of love vessel Be.
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Speaker 1: You even name dropped him on the album album About Nothing.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a staple, that's a cornerstone, Like it's um.
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Speaker 1: It's like your first initial, like testament um, and it's
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Speaker 1: like it's like your coronation to the game. You know.
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Speaker 1: I remember a lot of people first so OB show.
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Speaker 1: I remember, like, you know, like when it was like
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Speaker 1: all of us young artists like those Meds, Wiz Drake
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Speaker 1: and all of us, Like I remember everybody coming to
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Speaker 1: my SOB show like and it was a big deal.
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Speaker 1: Like it was kind of the test run to see
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Speaker 1: like how my show was going to be outside of DC,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's definitely, you know,
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Speaker 1: a part of our history. You know, it's a part
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Speaker 1: of our culture. And you know, I'm just fortunate enough
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Speaker 1: to be back in that jone like seven years later,
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Speaker 1: crushing that jone, Like even though it's a small venue,
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Speaker 1: is the energy there was unlike no other would you
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Speaker 1: say you And I was asking about the album and
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Speaker 1: how it's like episodes with Seinfeld and I saw the
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Speaker 1: skits that you've been putting up with him in the
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Speaker 1: studio with you and talking about things like matrimony and
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Speaker 1: roller coasters and all of that. So what is it
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Speaker 1: supposed to be like different episodes. Yeah, Well essentially it's
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Speaker 1: a it's a it's like he plays my conscious, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you know, like this guy
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Speaker 1: like he's he's plays my conscious in real life of times,
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Speaker 1: like as far as like like I get an opinion
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Speaker 1: and it's something that I would choose to follow or
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Speaker 1: like I have to assess myself or like a chin chat,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying at times like you know,
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Speaker 1: you got a record like The Middle Finger for instance,
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Speaker 1: and Jerry's like, yo, no, people want to talk, like
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Speaker 1: let them talk, like you know what I'm saying and
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Speaker 1: exactly and it and it's like a template, uh that
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Speaker 1: like like a method of development. You know when you
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Speaker 1: when you're in school, you learn how to write like
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Speaker 1: a thesis and you have a method of development, and
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Speaker 1: like that's how I was writing my records, Like I
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Speaker 1: was letting it be like a template of where I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna go and how I'm gonna break down a record
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Speaker 1: and I just found my found it found it challenging
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Speaker 1: as a writer to execute. But you know, the challenge,
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Speaker 1: the bigger the challenge, the bigger the reward. Let's talk
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Speaker 1: about that middle Finger record because that's one of my
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Speaker 1: favorite records off the album. What was the convo you
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Speaker 1: and Signfit what happened? Because he does say he encouraged
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Speaker 1: you to let people talk because they don't believe half
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Speaker 1: of what they say. You don't let people talk. No,
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Speaker 1: I don't know I done it at all, but um,
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Speaker 1: I just you know, when when me and Jerry get
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Speaker 1: in the studio, we just kind of just let it,
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Speaker 1: let it flow. We don't rush it. We don't rush it,
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Speaker 1: we don't force it. Like he said so much stuff.
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Speaker 1: I could make two more albums off of what the
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Speaker 1: stuff we talked about if I wanted to. Like so
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Speaker 1: it was all like perfect, It was all just laid
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Speaker 1: right out there, and you know it just you know,
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Speaker 1: we go in the studio. We just got Mike's everywhere
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Speaker 1: and like we just talked like you know, he have
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Speaker 1: his coffee, you know, I go outside. You know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying you let Hi hit a wrinker beforehand, like
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Speaker 1: y'all got this brink, I let him. I want it's
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Speaker 1: done when it's done. Like you said, you go outside,
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Speaker 1: so you smoke a climbentary when you come back in
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Speaker 1: it and you're smelling like smoke. What does he say?
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Speaker 1: Bubbly time? Like we when when when the liquor start
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Speaker 1: coming around like bubbly time And that's when it starts
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Speaker 1: to get loose in the studio and we you know,
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Speaker 1: but he don't got no problem with that obviously. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure Jerry from y'all, he don't want nothing out have
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Speaker 1: been like, dang man, you've trying to fronounce me bron
7:52
Speaker 1: like but he whatnot? Like like the crazy thing is
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Speaker 1: like you I'm a young black dude from DC, Like
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Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to be clearing NBC like that. And
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Speaker 1: that's what we cleared it. Like Jerry was like, yo,
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Speaker 1: make sure he's good on anything. So wow, you do
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Speaker 1: it was the album could have been out like four
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Speaker 1: months ago, but you know, claring it was a you know,
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Speaker 1: was a challenge, but I'm you know, it got done
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Speaker 1: and that that that's one of the things that's unprecedented
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Speaker 1: and I and I want like hip hop to feel
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Speaker 1: pride in that, like knowing that we did that. Like
8:27
Speaker 1: they're they're bidding for the for the to own the
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Speaker 1: rights to sign feel right now and it's like millions
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Speaker 1: of dollars on the table and I just come in
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Speaker 1: there and use whatever I want. It's a lot of
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Speaker 1: money out there on that on that show. And for
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Speaker 1: like a young hip hop dude to be able to
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Speaker 1: use the show to in in you know, in an
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Speaker 1: artistic way like that says a lot about where we
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Speaker 1: add as a as a culture. And it's what I
8:53
Speaker 1: understand about you. Like you know, you'll say things like
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Speaker 1: you don't get to respect you deserve. Well, who can
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Speaker 1: get signed filed to narrate the album? And he did
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Speaker 1: it based off the fact that he's a fan, right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he didn't know. I never really have a problem with
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Speaker 1: the respect or lack thereof from my peer, like from
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Speaker 1: like other entertainers, Like I get a call from you know,
9:15
Speaker 1: jay Z came in and said, like, you know, I'm
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Speaker 1: My thing is more so like the media or like
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Speaker 1: the quote unquote gatekeepers that you know that that kind
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Speaker 1: of make or break or that can help you put
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Speaker 1: food on your table and provide the bosses. Well, I
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Speaker 1: see you, I see Meek Mill tweeted about the album
9:35
Speaker 1: and you guys clearly made up. He came to that
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Speaker 1: show at SOBS, so so what grill? You know, I
9:42
Speaker 1: gotta get him a whole function. Yeah, let's tell let's
9:47
Speaker 1: talk about that. How did you guys, um, you know,
9:49
Speaker 1: finally come together and I know you hadn't spoken, but
9:52
Speaker 1: there was no real beef. But now it seems like
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Speaker 1: friendship is back. He's a love change makes people get
10:01
Speaker 1: another bouncing your step, you know what I'm saying, um now,
10:04
Speaker 1: But all in all seriousness, like it's just everybody go
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Speaker 1: through with man like we we we were growing up
10:11
Speaker 1: in front of like the world. Though I'm the first
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Speaker 1: conversation of that initial combo that it was never it
10:16
Speaker 1: was never really like a thing. It was just like
10:19
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it was just like
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Speaker 1: man whatever, Like you know what I'm saying, that changes
10:24
Speaker 1: that when you love changes that. I mean, he's just
10:27
Speaker 1: and plus it, like you know, he's cleaned He's cleaned
10:29
Speaker 1: up a lot of things in his life, Like I
10:31
Speaker 1: mean as well, like at the end of the day,
10:33
Speaker 1: like blood thicking and water and like you know, obviously
10:36
Speaker 1: we're not blood related, but in this industry we blood.
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Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, that's my sister. So
10:42
Speaker 1: I don't want this grill, but you got more than
10:47
Speaker 1: one grill. He wasting money like I didn't do him.
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Speaker 1: Still be but I gotta keep up with him. Talk
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Speaker 1: about love. You're in love too now, right? No, I
11:01
Speaker 1: want to be, Okay, I actually want to be. You
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Speaker 1: got the record matrimony. I want to be. That's what
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Speaker 1: I was thinking when I heard that. And then I
11:07
Speaker 1: know you kind of food up and I saw the
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Speaker 1: Billboard article when you talked about how you want to
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Speaker 1: be married, and I love one day. I mean, this
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Speaker 1: is something that I'm willing to, like, you know, not
11:18
Speaker 1: aggressively pursue, but pursueing some regards like you know, like sacrifice. Yeah,
11:23
Speaker 1: because like, man, are you willing to do sacrifices? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, who want to really
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Speaker 1: do this here alone? Like you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Like and I don't like like you know, Mama's be
11:35
Speaker 1: off there like oh that's sold all right? Well well okay,
11:38
Speaker 1: you you go make that money and go spend it
11:41
Speaker 1: alone and see how how much fun that is. But
11:43
Speaker 1: last time you were here, you talked about a girl
11:45
Speaker 1: that you were dating, and then you said you got
11:46
Speaker 1: in trouble after that. Well, women like a woman, A
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Speaker 1: woman I got, I got, you know, situation ships, situation chips. Okay,
11:56
Speaker 1: you talk about I got vibes. Okay. In the matchic
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Speaker 1: you almost you said you were lost the baby was, Well,
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Speaker 1: that was one of the most difficult times in my
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Speaker 1: life because you know, I you know, it was around
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Speaker 1: the time my my my cousin passed away and like
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Speaker 1: that was my cousin. That was I mean, that was
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Speaker 1: with him every day, like you know what I'm saying.
12:18
Speaker 1: You know, um carcident and I mean he had a
12:22
Speaker 1: he had a he had his firstborn and he passed
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Speaker 1: away the day after damn yeah. And it was I
12:29
Speaker 1: mean I remember, like yesterday I was in Um. I
12:32
Speaker 1: was staying at the Inner Curtinental, and me and all
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Speaker 1: my cousins, you know, we was all gathered around like
12:38
Speaker 1: we was just no drinking in the hotel. Like man,
12:40
Speaker 1: we gotta grow up. Man, like you know what, had
12:43
Speaker 1: his kids, like we gotta keep the we gotta keep
12:45
Speaker 1: the kids. Clicked up, so I gotta start knocking them down,
12:49
Speaker 1: and you know we lost from the next day and
12:51
Speaker 1: you know, well we all just kind of they all
12:55
Speaker 1: just agreed to just what I'm saying, like whatever we
12:58
Speaker 1: gotta do, you know, we won't want nothing and in
13:02
Speaker 1: his life, you know. But as far as my miscourage, like,
13:06
Speaker 1: it's different when you know, I'm sure I'm sure y'all
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Speaker 1: slipped a couple of paths of Goldie or sometimes I'm
13:13
Speaker 1: sure y'all you know, I don't know. Yeah, that's what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I'm sure y'all slips a couple of
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Speaker 1: pats of Goalie, made that trip to the June whatever.
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Speaker 1: But um, it's different when you want to when you
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Speaker 1: you got a situation where you found peace and you're
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Speaker 1: ready for it, and then you start for it and
13:30
Speaker 1: you you know, so when that happened, I kind of
13:34
Speaker 1: went in a downwards spiral, like a lot of things
13:37
Speaker 1: started like taking over my life like ten eleven weeks. Okay, yeah,
13:45
Speaker 1: so when we did that, Like when that happened, you know,
13:49
Speaker 1: it was like you know, because you go from like
13:51
Speaker 1: having to tell your parents about it, and you know,
13:54
Speaker 1: everybody like you got like the proper you know, channels
13:57
Speaker 1: or whatever, and then you know names all that other
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Speaker 1: stuff and like, okay, where I'm gonna move too, because
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be one of them, like you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, so like yeah, absolutely, And then
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Speaker 1: it's just like immediately you know what I'm saying. So
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Speaker 1: and I'm a person that always wants to know why
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like and like like I'm
14:18
Speaker 1: not talking about why, like the health wise, I mean, god,
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Speaker 1: why you know what I'm saying. So it was it
14:24
Speaker 1: was tough to deal with. But then you started, for
14:26
Speaker 1: what I read, he said, you started dealing with the
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Speaker 1: pills and alcohol. I just I started getting into the
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Speaker 1: deep end, man. I just you know how I go
14:34
Speaker 1: man like, and um, the thing is is like I'm
14:37
Speaker 1: not a person that like just do it to fit in,
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Speaker 1: Like i't I'm not, I ain't Like I like just
14:43
Speaker 1: don't want to be this person that is hindering my career,
14:49
Speaker 1: like because of the perception of me, Like I don't naturally,
14:53
Speaker 1: I don't naturally walk around with a smile on my face.
14:55
Speaker 1: What can I do to make to put a smile
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Speaker 1: on my face? When if we gonna make me come
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Speaker 1: across as lazy and uninterested? What can I take? Oh?
15:05
Speaker 1: What can I drink to make me give a proper
15:10
Speaker 1: you know, energy to towards something that I'm not interested in. Yeah,
15:17
Speaker 1: you just want to numb it. At some point, you
15:19
Speaker 1: just want to be like man, like you know and
15:21
Speaker 1: like people are gonna lie. You know, I'm always gonna
15:25
Speaker 1: tell you what it really is like you know, when
15:27
Speaker 1: when you when you start to get consumed and all
15:30
Speaker 1: the negative things that people say about you, like it
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Speaker 1: do hurt it? Do like we all right, man, we
15:35
Speaker 1: all man here. Man, I can fight I really can
15:37
Speaker 1: fight it. Like I don't care, like I'm tough like whatever, like,
15:40
Speaker 1: but that shit hurt, like via social media, I'm someone
15:44
Speaker 1: in general, Like when you hear like you go to
15:46
Speaker 1: a radio station and and somebody say, um um, but
15:51
Speaker 1: I heard about Shoot you heard what? Like what you are?
15:54
Speaker 1: What that that? I didn't want to do five hundred jobs?
15:57
Speaker 1: I did want to ninety nine. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: like what what you here? Because I know what goes
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Speaker 1: on in my Atlantic records. I know how many times
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Speaker 1: you got curves. I didn't curve. I did all of
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Speaker 1: your interviews and I did all your drops, but you
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Speaker 1: what you here, Like you didn't get your your nephews sons,
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Speaker 1: cafeteria lunch ladies autograph. Like you know what I'm saying, Like,
16:18
Speaker 1: you know, the the negative things travel so much faster.
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Speaker 1: It's so much faster. It's a very interesting comment because
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Speaker 1: you're dealing with the death of your cousin. You had
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Speaker 1: a miscash. When people don't know that when you do
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Speaker 1: an interview and you come off with an attitude, they
16:33
Speaker 1: don't know what's behind the attitude. Like I saw the
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Speaker 1: interview in Nordawa. I'm like, damn wiwa. That's another thing.
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Speaker 1: I was joking. I was just playing that because I
16:41
Speaker 1: don't know what you talking because the Nordware joint, like
16:44
Speaker 1: I was. I was. The next day, I'm looking at
16:48
Speaker 1: the comments and we're not even the comments. People are like, yo,
16:50
Speaker 1: why did you tweet Nordware like that. I'm like, and
16:52
Speaker 1: I had to ask my crew. I'm like what, And
16:54
Speaker 1: my man's like, bro, you know, people just don't understand you.
16:58
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, because I was like, I was like,
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Speaker 1: because he had the mic and like I was looking
17:03
Speaker 1: forward to nar Ward interviews. I thought he was gonna
17:05
Speaker 1: show me like my second grade teacher, Miss Rathbone, like,
17:08
Speaker 1: oh do you remember missus Rathbone. He was just like, Oh,
17:12
Speaker 1: here's the Goat, here's the Trouble Funk CD. I mean,
17:14
Speaker 1: here's the Trunk album. Here's a Nigerian c album. And
17:18
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like I thought I was gonna
17:21
Speaker 1: be like something else, but I was like being I
17:23
Speaker 1: was to me. I thought I was joking about it.
17:25
Speaker 1: So I got his mic and I was like, huh,
17:27
Speaker 1: but but like playing with him, but people like you're
17:30
Speaker 1: being a jerk to him. I'm like, like, I'm not
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Speaker 1: gonna kiss the dude's ass. Like I'm just like, I'm
17:36
Speaker 1: just playing with the dude. Like when I don't play,
17:38
Speaker 1: y'all tell me I'm a shiler. And when I'm playing around,
17:41
Speaker 1: you say like, why don't you just see it and
17:43
Speaker 1: give a vanilla ass interview? Now, how was it? How
17:45
Speaker 1: was your baby moms? How was she coping with the loss? Well,
17:49
Speaker 1: Jesus a strong girl, man, She's a very strong girl.
17:52
Speaker 1: Like she helped me, you know what I'm saying. She uh,
17:56
Speaker 1: she went she uh. I was on the road at
17:58
Speaker 1: the time, and you know, she went to my mother
18:00
Speaker 1: house and you know they had the woman's time, you
18:03
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And that's the one. While if
18:04
Speaker 1: she's the one that helps you when you're down, that's
18:06
Speaker 1: the one. But I mean there's a lot of things. Things,
18:10
Speaker 1: things happen, and you know, think things change up, she
18:13
Speaker 1: suck up, and you know who's to save me? And
18:15
Speaker 1: hear that person even together anymore? Right? Why why not
18:17
Speaker 1: just call off the interview sometime or just be like, yo, look,
18:20
Speaker 1: I'm glad you saved that, bro. I learned that or
18:22
Speaker 1: early in the game. See, you know, can't do that.
18:24
Speaker 1: You can't do the label makes time and now it
18:26
Speaker 1: looks bad, it makes the ast. What I'm trying to say,
18:30
Speaker 1: I I you guys have and I'm not trying to
18:34
Speaker 1: like ride your jockeing on like that, but like let's
18:35
Speaker 1: call a space place. You guys are the coveted morning show.
18:39
Speaker 1: But y'all earn that you put it together. You you
18:42
Speaker 1: earned You earned that from working with Wendy. You earned
18:45
Speaker 1: that from putting it works from you. I was having
18:46
Speaker 1: your mixtapes when I was in high school. You you
18:48
Speaker 1: earned that doing a serious radio and all that. And
18:51
Speaker 1: when y'all came together. It's everybody wants to do this joint.
18:54
Speaker 1: Like there are people that are essentially starting rappers for
18:59
Speaker 1: or or entertainers for their their time. There their rub
19:03
Speaker 1: Like in the wrestling world they call it a rub
19:05
Speaker 1: when you get somebody from another and like so like
19:08
Speaker 1: they're there are people like yoh, like if I don't
19:11
Speaker 1: get this, then we're gonna badmouth you. We're gonna we're
19:14
Speaker 1: gonna you know what I'm saying, And that's not it
19:15
Speaker 1: should be like a mutual respect thing. Like I mean,
19:18
Speaker 1: I was up last night to like six in the morning.
19:21
Speaker 1: I was I'm excited to come here because y'all earn
19:24
Speaker 1: that like like you know what I'm saying, Like it's
19:26
Speaker 1: that's how it should be. And that's what I feel
19:29
Speaker 1: like this whole wave of album about Nothing represents, like
19:34
Speaker 1: it's like power back into the consumer, the people, the fans,
19:38
Speaker 1: you know, And that's what j Cole represents. That's what
19:41
Speaker 1: Drake dropping that secret album out of the blue, Like
19:43
Speaker 1: that's what that represents, putting the power back into the people,
19:47
Speaker 1: putting the power and like I will never forget this. Man.
19:50
Speaker 1: I might even told y'all this story before we was
19:52
Speaker 1: in Australia doing a little over a tour and Q
19:55
Speaker 1: Tip we was on a bus. It was like fire
19:57
Speaker 1: side Q Tip and uh like all these like um
20:01
Speaker 1: like groups from like the nineties and stuff like that,
20:05
Speaker 1: and um, I was just peeping game and it was
20:07
Speaker 1: just schooling me and stuff and and q Tips said
20:10
Speaker 1: dog and the nineties. All we had was the source
20:14
Speaker 1: double XL in our album, our work. That's all we
20:17
Speaker 1: had to deal with. Now, it's so many things in
20:20
Speaker 1: avenues and so many things. People use this leverage to
20:24
Speaker 1: to show you or to to act like you not
20:27
Speaker 1: as important or you know, the gatekeepers like you know
20:30
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And that's unfortunate because it dilutes the
20:33
Speaker 1: the media, dilutes media as a whole. Do you feel
20:36
Speaker 1: like it's classism and hip hop? Because I was talking
20:38
Speaker 1: to Big Sean, I said, I feel like it's tears,
20:41
Speaker 1: like you have Kendricks, j Coles Drakes and it's the
20:44
Speaker 1: second tier. It's like you Sean me, Well, I mean,
20:47
Speaker 1: I think I think in some regard, I think really
20:49
Speaker 1: it's just too though it's like awesome love of hip
20:54
Speaker 1: hop and I don't I don't. I don't say that
20:58
Speaker 1: as like a, you know, like that's an entertaining show,
21:01
Speaker 1: but it's it's about as real as Empire. Empire. I
21:05
Speaker 1: might even have an edge up one as far as like,
21:07
Speaker 1: you know, as far as delusional people right here, like
21:10
Speaker 1: I don't like I saw Virgie Dollars saying get to
21:14
Speaker 1: get Somebody twelfth single, I call him by dollars and
21:17
Speaker 1: gay yea, yeah, well okay, I love that exactly. Susan
21:25
Speaker 1: features that joint and you can talk about it if
21:27
Speaker 1: you watch it and you feel bad that you watch it.
21:29
Speaker 1: Oh you've been listening to a Yeah, you go listen
21:34
Speaker 1: to it all about yourself? Are you saying because I'm
21:38
Speaker 1: a woman? Yes, absolutely no, but um not, but I
21:45
Speaker 1: really rock with Empire. I think, um, the successive Empire
21:48
Speaker 1: is directly the hour, our society or our our world,
21:54
Speaker 1: our cultures, affinity for the music industry. There's an outright
22:00
Speaker 1: like we can make another Empire and it'll be as
22:03
Speaker 1: success like you know what I'm saying, Like because people
22:05
Speaker 1: want to know the underworkings of the music industry, right,
22:08
Speaker 1: people want to know, like even if it's like kind
22:11
Speaker 1: of ridiculous, I'm not gay battle rap, like you really
22:18
Speaker 1: just battle wrapped and said you sung about your sexual
22:22
Speaker 1: orientation and that was your unrealistic that would never happen
22:26
Speaker 1: in real life, and what you don you imagine three
22:32
Speaker 1: dollars versions like somebody like yes, talented dough man, it
22:45
Speaker 1: was mighty that it was a mighty directly, but um,
22:50
Speaker 1: yeah that was. But it's it's ridiculous enough to be
22:53
Speaker 1: like talked about in the morning, Like you know, when
22:56
Speaker 1: I was in middle school, like we had New York undercover.
22:59
Speaker 1: That was our joint, like like it was mart and
23:01
Speaker 1: the New York NNA travel and we talk about that.
23:04
Speaker 1: So like now everybody, I'm sure the watercol like cooler
23:07
Speaker 1: talk is an empire, and it's it's ridiculous, but it's
23:12
Speaker 1: very entertaining and the storylines are a little bit overly done,
23:17
Speaker 1: but again it's very very entertaining. That's what you mean
23:19
Speaker 1: when you say it's tids, it's it's the hip hop
23:21
Speaker 1: guys who actually got talent. And then I wouldn't even
23:24
Speaker 1: say talent because I'm sure they said that the girl
23:27
Speaker 1: from plays like a lot of instruments. Yeah, and I'm
23:30
Speaker 1: not trying to like like there's an indictment on her,
23:32
Speaker 1: but like I'm sure there's a like there's producers there
23:36
Speaker 1: that play off the delusions and dreams of some of
23:40
Speaker 1: these people on the show, and that right there is
23:44
Speaker 1: sick to me. I think, you know what I'm saying, Um,
23:47
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of like dangling, like you know,
23:51
Speaker 1: you could be famous if you do this, Like you
23:54
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like some of that stuff is
23:56
Speaker 1: like fringeworthy, like like the diamond strawberry I was. I
24:01
Speaker 1: was like, yo, is this like didn't really leave her
24:03
Speaker 1: daughter at home? No, but like she was like, yeah,
24:06
Speaker 1: I just come to the club to say to say
24:08
Speaker 1: hello while they really watches this show. Bro. I've been
24:12
Speaker 1: on the store bus driving, Bro, when you're driving from
24:16
Speaker 1: New Mexico to LA and you have nothing to do,
24:20
Speaker 1: like I'm on iTunes, I want to find something to watch. Please.
24:24
Speaker 1: When I hear your album, I hear that you gotta
24:26
Speaker 1: like a lot of trust issues with females to the
24:28
Speaker 1: shows like that reinforced that oh VH one VH one
24:32
Speaker 1: saying I'm thinking aboud I said that on the last
24:36
Speaker 1: album Real. I don't like that for everybody. You guys
24:43
Speaker 1: are pretty untrustworthy as well. Of course, conversely, so I
24:47
Speaker 1: love you put out there, what's the symbolism and white
24:52
Speaker 1: sneakers man um the vanity and our people we're vain,
24:57
Speaker 1: like you know, it ain't about it ain't about what
25:00
Speaker 1: you're doing. It ain't about what uh what you're doing,
25:04
Speaker 1: about how you're looking, you know what I'm saying. Where
25:06
Speaker 1: they love you for your catalog and uh and everybody
25:10
Speaker 1: got a jersey to play along back then the holes
25:13
Speaker 1: checking for your zappato so even dirty has had some phones,
25:16
Speaker 1: you know. So that's that's that's our life. Like uh,
25:22
Speaker 1: free lunch for everybody, we all free, all come for
25:24
Speaker 1: free lunch. Well, all my friends got Jordans my like
25:29
Speaker 1: my mother was too proud to do to get this
25:32
Speaker 1: the government checkers in or government issue joints, like you know,
25:37
Speaker 1: just being African and being in America like that pride
25:42
Speaker 1: is so we meant, you know what I'm saying. So
25:44
Speaker 1: that's why we eating hot dogs and cans of corn
25:47
Speaker 1: at nighttime, like you know what I'm saying. Like, but
25:49
Speaker 1: like we come from all these poor environments and all
25:54
Speaker 1: of all my peers got Jordans. On the vanity of
25:57
Speaker 1: our people, the pride of our people. The mothers want
26:00
Speaker 1: to put their sons. Mothers even want to dress their
26:03
Speaker 1: sons up like the man that left them, you know
26:06
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Or mothers want to put some nice
26:09
Speaker 1: Jordan John to mask what's really happening, the mask like
26:13
Speaker 1: there is no food and absolutely, and that's the that's
26:18
Speaker 1: the core of that that song, you know, Jerry at
26:21
Speaker 1: the beginning of it, he says, I was wearing white
26:22
Speaker 1: shoes and it makes me happy, and like that's that's set.
26:27
Speaker 1: That's sent off like a whole lot of thinking and
26:30
Speaker 1: I'm just like, wow, you know after yeah, absolutely come
26:36
Speaker 1: up with that now he just he just was talking.
26:38
Speaker 1: That was one of the first things, the first things
26:41
Speaker 1: that I took and I wrote that song last summer.
26:43
Speaker 1: So we keep up appearances to be happy basics, I
26:45
Speaker 1: mean to, we're trying to we're trying to give off
26:49
Speaker 1: an idea about ourselves, you know what I'm saying. And
26:53
Speaker 1: you know it's a vanity and we dine over that ship.
26:55
Speaker 1: We're literally dying over to to impress somebody, Like if
27:01
Speaker 1: I wear these shoes this, you're gonna perceive me this way,
27:06
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But if I wear these shoes,
27:08
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're automatically putting me in this class of
27:11
Speaker 1: individuals that needs to be respected or that needs to
27:14
Speaker 1: be admired adored. You know what I'm saying. That's what
27:18
Speaker 1: these sneakers represent. Absolutely white Snakers is essentially a symbol,
27:25
Speaker 1: symbolic for all things that are material. Your record The Pessimist,
27:31
Speaker 1: and I like that record because people think you're a pessimist.
27:36
Speaker 1: Have you ever tried to power a positive thinking? I
27:39
Speaker 1: really do well, and I got a number in my
27:42
Speaker 1: mind as well. I want this album to do and
27:44
Speaker 1: I keep trying to tell myself this is gonna happen.
27:46
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm grateful for the universe every step
27:49
Speaker 1: of the way, all the misfires and all the things
27:51
Speaker 1: that happened, and you know, I pray on it, and
27:54
Speaker 1: even if I don't, I still want to be thankful
27:57
Speaker 1: that you know that I got an open door policy.
28:00
Speaker 1: Damn I could come, you know, and I'm one of
28:02
Speaker 1: hip hops. The lead I like to think, you know
28:04
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So I try to, like, you know,
28:07
Speaker 1: do this whole the secret thing like, but I don't
28:10
Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to be delusion. At the
28:13
Speaker 1: same time, you know what, I'm saying I've seen some
28:16
Speaker 1: delusional people in this very seat. So what's the numb look.
28:19
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna put that out there because if I don't,
28:21
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like, ahh, what happened to you? Leave
28:27
Speaker 1: me alone? Yeah? It's just stick. I mean, we work.
28:30
Speaker 1: I'm a working product. I come here tell you guys
28:33
Speaker 1: working problems. I'm noticing that, like when you ask the
28:37
Speaker 1: question that guy on that record, he asked the question,
28:40
Speaker 1: who am I to change perception? It's all on you,
28:43
Speaker 1: But he changed this perception. People are like it while now,
28:46
Speaker 1: which is good. I'm a good guy. I don't know
28:48
Speaker 1: if they's only that I heard them. You're also doing
28:57
Speaker 1: some Nigerian music. I heard a song that you just
28:59
Speaker 1: did recently. Is it something that has been a long time?
29:03
Speaker 1: You see changing that? What is he doing? I want
29:07
Speaker 1: to stay. I want to do a longer interview. I
29:09
Speaker 1: want to stay for a whole shift. Can I do that?
29:11
Speaker 1: You should have a wil a day shift the first
29:20
Speaker 1: week number don't come back to where you want them.
29:22
Speaker 1: You come in and do a whole show. I want
29:24
Speaker 1: to come. I just want to I just want to
29:26
Speaker 1: shoot man. Well, let's talk about the Nigerian music that
29:29
Speaker 1: you I just heard one song that you did. Is
29:31
Speaker 1: it a whole project that you're gonna do or what's happened? Um? Well,
29:35
Speaker 1: I have a lot of you know, uh like peers
29:40
Speaker 1: that that that are you know, successful artists in that
29:43
Speaker 1: that arena, and that's something that I definitely want to
29:45
Speaker 1: experiment with and I definitely want to represent and be
29:48
Speaker 1: a part of. So like I could definitely see myself
29:51
Speaker 1: doing that. Um. But you know, at the same time,
29:54
Speaker 1: I definitely want to do a go Go album. That's
29:56
Speaker 1: that's that's probably like my next thing that I want
29:58
Speaker 1: to do. And essentially I want to find, like I
30:03
Speaker 1: want to put together a band. Um. I want to
30:06
Speaker 1: get maybe somebody from New York, a couple of kids
30:09
Speaker 1: from DC. I wanted to. I want to have like
30:10
Speaker 1: my ANRDP project whereas like I don't have to put
30:13
Speaker 1: as much pressure on myself musically, and I got people
30:17
Speaker 1: to work with as far as creating the sounds and
30:20
Speaker 1: stuff like that and providing like that sound to the
30:23
Speaker 1: world to be able to usher in that sound. Because
30:26
Speaker 1: gos is a dying art it's not it's not what
30:30
Speaker 1: it used to be at all. I was gonna ask you,
30:33
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you know, with with it dying
30:34
Speaker 1: so bad, do you still incorporate that with all your
30:37
Speaker 1: should because if you don't know what go Go Go music
30:39
Speaker 1: is it it's big in DC, Maryland, Virginia. It's more
30:42
Speaker 1: of how how would you describe it? Like calling response? Um,
30:45
Speaker 1: it's very rich and like percussion and uh, it's really
30:49
Speaker 1: like nothing like like no other like you know, um,
30:52
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like saying what his orange looked
30:56
Speaker 1: like to a blind person, Like you gotta kind of
30:58
Speaker 1: be there to have a lot of influence. And the
31:02
Speaker 1: thing is people don't even know. Uh, they try to
31:06
Speaker 1: tell me what's go go? It's not like yo, why
31:08
Speaker 1: don't you have to go go? On your last stif
31:09
Speaker 1: I'm like Clappers was gog you know what I'm saying,
31:12
Speaker 1: or bait they didn't know bait was go go. You
31:13
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's just bounce beat that go
31:15
Speaker 1: go is evolved and into bounce beat and other subgenres
31:20
Speaker 1: within that that genre. So, um, there's definitely something that
31:24
Speaker 1: I want to do. And you know, like my you know,
31:27
Speaker 1: my hat goes off to like a lot of the
31:29
Speaker 1: DJ's like even like yourself, like you that put together
31:31
Speaker 1: records that can do a compilation of you know, you're
31:36
Speaker 1: organizing this guy on that record or two guys that
31:40
Speaker 1: you think would sound dope like, but I still do
31:42
Speaker 1: go sets. The problem is it is like, you know,
31:43
Speaker 1: there's nothing new. I'm not familiar with new stuff. Playing
31:47
Speaker 1: the oldest stuff you say, you like right there in
31:50
Speaker 1: the early nineties, late eighties, like it ain't really nothing.
31:54
Speaker 1: So I want to find a way to revolutionize that.
31:58
Speaker 1: And also like you know, trying to get some of
32:00
Speaker 1: these guys and some money, Like you know what I'm saying,
32:02
Speaker 1: Like some of the guys that that that's Pioneer and
32:05
Speaker 1: you know, go Go, they've been touring the same small
32:08
Speaker 1: earlier for twenty years, you know what I'm saying. So
32:11
Speaker 1: I just want to That's it means a lot to
32:14
Speaker 1: me to be able to execute something like that for
32:16
Speaker 1: the for the town. Let's gets for a second. You
32:19
Speaker 1: always say white rappers get better opportunities than black rappers?
32:22
Speaker 1: Is really that simple? Yeah? No, that's I mean, like
32:27
Speaker 1: you know, every time I mentioned this, I get like
32:30
Speaker 1: they come from my head, but like like it's just
32:32
Speaker 1: it is what it is, Like Iggyzel yah, yeah, she
32:39
Speaker 1: she gonna get more opportunities than training they get. They
32:43
Speaker 1: got the same, They rapped the same. I mean, I
32:46
Speaker 1: don't know where you get that that that voice from Australia,
32:50
Speaker 1: but that's next hearing or there. They have the same,
32:54
Speaker 1: you know, Tren it may being sold to a little bit,
33:00
Speaker 1: why is it at its probably no, I'm just saying
33:02
Speaker 1: obviously Iggy obviously, Iggy obviously was directly influenced by like
33:08
Speaker 1: a Jackie Oo or like even a Ti Like you
33:11
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But those opportunities, I'm sure Katie
33:14
Speaker 1: Perry is not knocking on Trainer's daughter to work, you
33:17
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And that's kind of weird to me.
33:20
Speaker 1: Like I just don't Katie didn't bring out Missy though,
33:24
Speaker 1: Stalgia j slow Cloud take this culture now, it's I mean,
33:35
Speaker 1: I just my thing is like I just I and
33:37
Speaker 1: I don't want to get all. I gotta dream. I
33:39
Speaker 1: gotta I have a dreaming on y'all. But like, I
33:42
Speaker 1: just really wish there was more equality in our in
33:46
Speaker 1: this sport, because you believe rap I don't want to
33:50
Speaker 1: dominate a black rabbit. Okay, this is what I'm gonna
33:53
Speaker 1: tell you right now, and I don't I know I'm
33:55
Speaker 1: gonna get in trouble one. Please know my heart man
33:59
Speaker 1: talk Well, it's easy for you to say any more. Okay.
34:08
Speaker 1: All I'm trying to say is I am a big
34:11
Speaker 1: fan of Sam Smith. I'm a big fan of his.
34:13
Speaker 1: But that stay with Me record, right, had that been
34:18
Speaker 1: sung by a black person, it would not have reached
34:20
Speaker 1: top forty. It's not it's just not that's it's too slow.
34:24
Speaker 1: It's what you I mean that that's okay, look at
34:30
Speaker 1: look at the look at the shooting percentage Sand Smith.
34:34
Speaker 1: Anything he puts out the top forty immediately that's it
34:37
Speaker 1: doesn't top forty. They'll they'll, they'll tip, they'll give you
34:40
Speaker 1: all the reasons as to why a successful song in
34:43
Speaker 1: the urban area that can't cross over the top forty.
34:47
Speaker 1: But as soon as he makes a record, it's top forty.
34:51
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And to people that don't understand top forty
34:55
Speaker 1: is there's a direct correlation between top forty and iTunes.
34:58
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like or exposure, you know
35:01
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like the casual music fan that doesn't
35:06
Speaker 1: really that doesn't really go to blogs and it's then
35:08
Speaker 1: a third their access is top forty. That's all they know.
35:11
Speaker 1: That's household names. That's why I said white bitches barely
35:14
Speaker 1: known me. I've been grace. I am society, y'alli. You
35:17
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, and that's that's too bad,
35:20
Speaker 1: Becky for not knowing who I LA. Is this your
35:22
Speaker 1: damn fault? You know what I'm saying. But at the
35:24
Speaker 1: same time, you guys guys like uh well, unfortunately R
35:28
Speaker 1: and B is dying, But like August, I've seen it
35:30
Speaker 1: would have sung Stay with Me or have been an
35:32
Speaker 1: urban radio record period. No if fans and butts, there's
35:36
Speaker 1: no way that song was going And people call me crazy,
35:40
Speaker 1: But there's some songs that Sam Smith sounds identical to
35:44
Speaker 1: Tank I'm too, exactly like Tank, exactly like him, and
35:48
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's Tank would have sung some of them songs.
35:50
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have they wouldn't have reached that Audi Urban radio,
35:54
Speaker 1: I mean, urban radio has been great to me, like
35:57
Speaker 1: I and I and I probably wear the flag of
36:00
Speaker 1: like a guy with the most plays on urban radio
36:02
Speaker 1: two times in a row, you know what I'm saying.
36:04
Speaker 1: But at the same time, from a from a from
36:08
Speaker 1: a financial standpoint, you would You would obviously want that
36:11
Speaker 1: top forty success because that directly influences your income. Now,
36:15
Speaker 1: I can't speak, gonna ask me because I think he's
36:17
Speaker 1: actually talented. Me, he's very talented. But for the white rappers,
36:20
Speaker 1: who I don't feel are as talented as a lot
36:21
Speaker 1: of the black rappers, I think a lot of times
36:23
Speaker 1: they're just novelties. So I'm gonna ask you, would you
36:25
Speaker 1: rather have one year like Macaelmore? Are a ten year
36:28
Speaker 1: Malcolmore coming back coming, he coming back onto your ass.
36:31
Speaker 1: He probably got records with saying you know what I'm saying,
36:35
Speaker 1: and it's not. But at the same time, at the
36:37
Speaker 1: same time, if you want to talk about rapping, Royce
36:41
Speaker 1: to five nine will smoke Malcolm Moore without question, and
36:45
Speaker 1: it's not And the Voice to five nine record will
36:49
Speaker 1: not surface top forty radio, no way, no how. But
36:54
Speaker 1: would you rather have that one year like Mcalmore or
36:56
Speaker 1: have a ten year career? As a respect, gonna have
37:00
Speaker 1: a ten year career longer than Ye's gonna because he
37:08
Speaker 1: don't have to write right, he doesn't have to like, Oh,
37:12
Speaker 1: let me just call Kendrick and say congratulates. Sorry I
37:15
Speaker 1: took your award down. Let me take it though, I
37:17
Speaker 1: still got it. You know what I'm saying, like keep up,
37:20
Speaker 1: and then like again like we I don't want to
37:23
Speaker 1: like I'm walking the fine line of telling the truth
37:25
Speaker 1: and somebody saying I'm hating like I mean disclaimer. I
37:29
Speaker 1: enjoy Mlcamore's music. I was well aware of what he
37:32
Speaker 1: was doing before he blew up, and I think he
37:34
Speaker 1: founded Lane. He worked it and he and he did it,
37:36
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, that's all any
37:38
Speaker 1: of us could want, you know what I'm saying. But
37:40
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's not the same. It's it's
37:44
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like I'm like being like
37:46
Speaker 1: a revolutionary trying to be uep of Radio Wars and
37:50
Speaker 1: like that. But it's definitely a black and white situation
37:55
Speaker 1: at Toms, like you're doing a song with Lady Gaga
37:58
Speaker 1: was your way, But I was already experiment. I was
38:01
Speaker 1: already doing d M. I was you know, I dropped
38:04
Speaker 1: on the Justice, I did go go I did, you
38:06
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I was already there trying
38:09
Speaker 1: to do things like crossover into path. I like music,
38:13
Speaker 1: I like I like, I like Christina Agiler sound like
38:16
Speaker 1: a black girl. She sounded like I would love to
38:18
Speaker 1: work with her, you know what I'm saying. Or with
38:22
Speaker 1: Katie Perry sounding you know, she sounds like a white girl.
38:24
Speaker 1: I would love to work with her. You know what
38:25
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like like, but that's because I like music.
38:29
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the actual art of performing music, you know
38:32
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No, that last I know you got
38:34
Speaker 1: to go labels trying to get you know, we know,
38:36
Speaker 1: we hear. What's up. You're a sneakerhead, huge, the biggest
38:42
Speaker 1: I would say influence when it comes to sneakers in
38:43
Speaker 1: this in this industry, where's your own sneaker? That's another
38:47
Speaker 1: thing like I would, I would the people want to
38:50
Speaker 1: wallet shoot from Nike? I mean you, I mean you
38:53
Speaker 1: should you? The people have broken so many sneakers and
38:55
Speaker 1: so many styles. When it comes to sneak Sam Smith's
39:00
Speaker 1: where he may not the air Sam Smith is coming out,
39:05
Speaker 1: for sure, Definitely that air Saint Smith is coming out.
39:10
Speaker 1: You guess the colorway that Joe, But it's go ahead.
39:15
Speaker 1: The comments expressed by Charlemagne are not necessarily those while
39:19
Speaker 1: has the all offer the game as being bisexual all that.
39:23
Speaker 1: I'm all for equality and people. Now where the wile
39:25
Speaker 1: sneaker man? Do you know? It's something that we discussed,
39:29
Speaker 1: you know, like towards the end of my standard rock Nation,
39:33
Speaker 1: myself and og One and Hove, like we we try
39:36
Speaker 1: to kick that door down. Um, you know it's it's
39:39
Speaker 1: just uphill battle though. But I definitely be up to
39:42
Speaker 1: you know, designing, you know, shoes for other clothing lines.
39:46
Speaker 1: I got a couple of offers now to do some
39:48
Speaker 1: some one up some one offs. You know, it's something
39:50
Speaker 1: that I want to do. But it's something that I'm like,
39:53
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm about the culture man, Like I'm not
39:55
Speaker 1: really about the dollar when it comes to that. That's
39:57
Speaker 1: something that I enjoy, you know what I'm saying. Like
40:00
Speaker 1: and actually I liked them joining. I like them. I
40:02
Speaker 1: think it's a you know, I you know, when I
40:05
Speaker 1: when I went to Paris to work with him, I
40:07
Speaker 1: saw a lot of stuff he's working on, Like he
40:09
Speaker 1: has a look. He showed me like where he was
40:12
Speaker 1: getting this inspiration from him and it's like nineties. Um,
40:15
Speaker 1: I forgot the name of the group. I think the
40:16
Speaker 1: Youngsters or something like that, Like it was something he
40:19
Speaker 1: was like, and and I saw Claire because I saw
40:21
Speaker 1: the look book and I saw you know, like you know,
40:24
Speaker 1: it's a the exaggerated like you know, you know yeah,
40:27
Speaker 1: And them dudes are like into like the silhouette of
40:30
Speaker 1: how the clothes fit on you and all that stuff,
40:33
Speaker 1: like they're doing the combat boots and all that. I'm
40:35
Speaker 1: more of a classic person, like give me a good phone,
40:37
Speaker 1: the good air Force one, the air Max, and I Gucci,
40:40
Speaker 1: but like I'm I'm I'm all for like the preservation
40:45
Speaker 1: of like the DJ and the sneaker, like those two
40:49
Speaker 1: things are synonymous with hip hop, Like and me personally,
40:52
Speaker 1: I was creative at like Nike or something. I'm giving
40:54
Speaker 1: DJ's shoot deals the same way I'm giving athletes or
40:57
Speaker 1: rappers like that. Are you know, direct lead into the
41:02
Speaker 1: sneaker world. I mean obviously that's where it started on
41:07
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I just think, you know,
41:10
Speaker 1: like I saw with my own two eyes how much
41:14
Speaker 1: money Rick Ross made Reebok. You know what I'm saying, Like,
41:17
Speaker 1: ain't no new less nowhere. God blessed him, but he didn't.
41:20
Speaker 1: He didn't make Reebok that much money. You know what
41:22
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And if not for a misinterpreted lyric or
41:26
Speaker 1: something like that, who knows where they reboke would have
41:29
Speaker 1: been right now, you know they would. It kind of
41:31
Speaker 1: killed the momentum. Now you recently revealed that you suffered
41:34
Speaker 1: from anxiety. Did you have that before the industry? Nope,
41:37
Speaker 1: damn Nope, not at all. I would. I would. I
41:40
Speaker 1: just freaking have a football game run for two hundred
41:43
Speaker 1: and fifty yards and the the the back after the
41:46
Speaker 1: game with all cheerleaders in the newspaper and all that
41:50
Speaker 1: and no problems. But you can see hip hop you
41:53
Speaker 1: could be like the football players were getting brilled in
41:59
Speaker 1: Oh Julie greenball top mask with Earth Bard Jay z
42:04
Speaker 1: Ari Bardy. No, but it comes from like and it's like,
42:08
Speaker 1: you know, the thing about it is like our people
42:13
Speaker 1: they look at like mental stuff as like a weakness,
42:16
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like and like, you know,
42:18
Speaker 1: I grew up with people that that have that have
42:21
Speaker 1: real like problems worse than me, because like I was,
42:25
Speaker 1: mindes was low compared to the people like I'm I
42:28
Speaker 1: was in juvenile the Titcher Center in sixth grade all
42:31
Speaker 1: the way until I graduated high school. So I grew
42:34
Speaker 1: up with. I literally grew up with people that have
42:36
Speaker 1: real issues, the group home kids to you know, young rapists,
42:41
Speaker 1: all type of wahala was going on when I was
42:44
Speaker 1: in school. You know what I'm saying. It was like
42:49
Speaker 1: I've been I've been there, I've seen it, I've seen
42:51
Speaker 1: what you know. Like so like now, like it's almost
42:55
Speaker 1: like God playing a little joke on me, Like I'm
42:58
Speaker 1: I'm I get uncomfortable sometimes in large groups, because this
43:03
Speaker 1: is how this is how I break it down. Like
43:06
Speaker 1: I go somewhere with my men, and it's like four
43:08
Speaker 1: of us. One one go to the bathroom, one go
43:12
Speaker 1: in the car to get something, and one step off
43:14
Speaker 1: the use the phone. I'm now saying about myself. I
43:17
Speaker 1: can feel the churning of the thinking of people coming
43:22
Speaker 1: ready to come ask me for something or try to
43:25
Speaker 1: manipulate me or try to finagle something from l A
43:29
Speaker 1: Like I'm a walking, breathing, living opportunity for people, and
43:35
Speaker 1: we all are we all are bro Can I get
43:39
Speaker 1: a drop shot? I mean, you know what I'm saying,
43:44
Speaker 1: Like we are walking, We are walking, living, breathing opportunities.
43:47
Speaker 1: And I don't think people understand that. I don't think
43:50
Speaker 1: that the world understands what we go through. And I'm
43:53
Speaker 1: not saying to cry for us or what not like
43:55
Speaker 1: that because you got carrias all up in your ear
43:58
Speaker 1: and you're doing good. The jealous or something you're doing,
44:02
Speaker 1: you're doing all. See, yeah, so don't cry for us.
44:05
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like nobody knows what our
44:09
Speaker 1: little struggle, Like that's deep if you if you're not
44:13
Speaker 1: strong enough to deal with or you don't have a
44:14
Speaker 1: good core, like it's it's really difficult, like to go
44:19
Speaker 1: I think my therapy is this because I actually go
44:21
Speaker 1: away from like like we've come around a lot, but
44:24
Speaker 1: I go away from every breakfast club interview feeling like
44:27
Speaker 1: I got a weight off because because like you know,
44:30
Speaker 1: y'all family, like you know what I'm saying, at the
44:32
Speaker 1: end of the day, like we go through it like
44:35
Speaker 1: y'all joke, we joke on each other whatever. But when
44:38
Speaker 1: it's all said and done, like I'm sure y'all be like, man,
44:40
Speaker 1: I was, you know what I'm saying, Like it's it's
44:41
Speaker 1: healthy for everybody, you know what I'm saying. And and
44:44
Speaker 1: and that's that's ever since I started coming in here
44:47
Speaker 1: being like just letting it go, I just feel better,
44:50
Speaker 1: or like I started my every blue Moon thing where
44:52
Speaker 1: I just write a letter to my fans and it's
44:55
Speaker 1: essentially like a journal and I just I tell them
44:57
Speaker 1: like yo, like you know what I'm saying today was that,
45:00
Speaker 1: like or I'll find a masculine way to say somebody
45:02
Speaker 1: here in my feelings would though somebody I have though,
45:07
Speaker 1: like you know, they try, they bleed the clock a lot. Man,
45:09
Speaker 1: we're getting straight to them, I mean potatoes and showing
45:12
Speaker 1: appreciated Yeah, I'm sorry. Now, I'm sorry stores right now
45:21
Speaker 1: about nothing. It's called tan on um. That's the hashtag
45:24
Speaker 1: on Twitter T T A N. Are you subconsciously encouraging
45:27
Speaker 1: people to be darker? No? No, no, we should all
45:31
Speaker 1: be darker though. Yeah, he's looking at you. I'm currently
45:36
Speaker 1: dealing with bleaching rumors. Actually no, but I'll be feeling bad.
45:43
Speaker 1: But when they do that to that man, yeah yeah,
45:47
Speaker 1: I mean but he is the same exact exactly. I
45:51
Speaker 1: give the energy I gotta take back he take. But
45:55
Speaker 1: I just know, but you know what I'm saying, Like
45:56
Speaker 1: he like just trying to like out a presentable look,
45:59
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. It wasn't presentable before.
46:05
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Okay, you did it, you did it, you
46:10
Speaker 1: did it, you did it for a reason that you
46:12
Speaker 1: did it for a reason, like you know what I'm saying,
46:14
Speaker 1: maybe somebody got in him. He was like, I don't know,
46:17
Speaker 1: you want to do what's what's up? No, I could
46:23
Speaker 1: do it. I could do it. No, No, I got it. No, No.
46:26
Speaker 1: Call Heim just wanted to even I cant like I
46:29
Speaker 1: could be kidding. Plays and gentlemen, it's the breakfast. It's
46:36
Speaker 1: the album about nothing.