Latest / Scene Projects Sports Network / Vikings United: Draft Insights, Coaching Analysis, and John Macdonald Interview
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- 3:57Welcome in to the Scene Project Sports Network.
- 3:59You are here tonight for Vikings United.
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- 4:10We got my cohost, Big B, in the house with me as always.
- 4:14B, what's going on?
- 4:16Nothing much.
- 4:17Ready to talk some football?
- 4:18Can't hear you,
- 4:20Can't hear me.
- 4:21Alright.
- 4:21I'll back out.
- 4:22You're good.
- 4:23You're good.
- 4:23Oh, I'm good now?
- 4:24Okay.
- 4:24Yep.
- 4:25No.
- 4:25Just got done with our work today, my Friday, so get a couple days off to get stuff situated,
- 4:34relax, and just can't wait to talk about what everybody's thoughts are on any news stories
- 4:40for the NFL this week.
- 4:41Yeah.
- 4:42And we're kinda hitting that low.
- 4:43Right?
- 4:44But we got some really cool stuff tonight.
- 4:46I got a chance to talk with international fan of the year for the Minnesota Vikings.
- 4:51He was on the stage at the draft.
- 4:53John McDonald, pretty epic, conversation with him.
- 4:57So we're gonna be out there.
- 4:58We got a full house tonight too.
- 4:59Let's bring in coach.
- 5:01Coach Cody, what's going on?
- 5:03What's going on, fellas?
- 5:04How we doing?
- 5:05We're doing good.
- 5:05What's up, coach?
- 5:06Man.
- 5:07I had to get my flat bill game on because we got sir Picasso joining us back in the fray.
- 5:12Oh, snap.
- 5:14Let's go.
- 5:14Let's go.
- 5:15Fresh.
- 5:18What it do?
- 5:19What it do?
- 5:20Good to see you, brother.
- 5:21Feel me?
- 5:22Belated, man.
- 5:23The appreciation.
- 5:25Yep.
- 5:26Mine's tomorrow.
- 5:27So when we get together next time, now we know.
- 5:29Next year, I'm coming up to you.
- 5:31We'll have a joint birthday.
- 5:33Yeah.
- 5:33I'm done.
- 5:34I don't, I'm down.
- 5:35I don't really celebrate my birthday.
- 5:38Neither do I.
- 5:39My my kids made me do so.
- 5:41Tomorrow.
- 5:42My kids got track day, man.
- 5:44So I'll be out there freezing my ass off watching little kids run, you know, 40 yard
- 5:49sprints.
- 5:50It's gonna be awesome.
- 5:51Picasso, I wanna introduce to one of our new cohosts on the show.
- 5:56And with us, our guy, Pods.
- 5:58Pods, meet Picasso.
- 6:00Picasso, meet Pods.
- 6:02What's going on, sir?
- 6:02How are you doing?
- 6:04I'm doing pretty good.
- 6:05How are you guys?
- 6:08Man, great night.
- 6:09Great night.
- 6:10We got a full house for real.
- 6:11Living our dream.
- 6:12We do.
- 6:13Yes, sir.
- 6:14Yeah.
- 6:15We're having a having a great one.
- 6:17It's been it's been a wild time since the last time we saw you, Marcus.
- 6:24It's been a a lot has happened.
- 6:28We got through the draft.
- 6:29We've had some some interesting, you know, free agents visiting in the last week as well.
- 6:37I know not everyone is real high on mister Jennings, but I think he'd be a great fit to
- 6:42this team.
- 6:43Would love to see them sign another wide receiver no matter who it is.
- 6:47But would love to just you know, since we haven't talked to you since the draft, kinda
- 6:52get your overall thoughts on what you thought about the draft and those the draft picks
- 6:57coming in.
- 6:59Man, I I well, while I got posted on my Darth Viking page, I gave us a b plus.
- 7:05Naturally, being a Vikings fan, we wanted to see a couple beefy offensive linemen.
- 7:10You know?
- 7:12I think that we needed to hit the safety position pretty hard.
- 7:18But, all in all, man, I'm happy.
- 7:21And I think that with as long as our guys can stay healthy, I'm good for it, and I and I
- 7:27never doubt Flores.
- 7:29So if Flores is picking you on the defense, then you got something.
- 7:34Well and the thing with, and I know everyone on draft night was really surprised by the Caleb
- 7:40Banks pick, and I'm sure that the Vikings were surprised that he was still there.
- 7:46And I know he had the injury, but you're talking about someone in all of these scouting
- 7:50reports and everything leading up to the draft that is, you know, bringing this guy as a top
- 7:56five, you know, top 10 possible top five pick.
- 7:59So I think more of the fact that he was there and Beefalo's probably in there going, you
- 8:03don't draft him, I'm out the door.
- 8:05Right?
- 8:05And
- 8:05if you
- 8:06pass on this guy, I'm done.
- 8:08It it's being and and I don't think that you had to be threatened in that.
- 8:12And I I know everyone had, you know, Theinamin coming to the Vikings forever.
- 8:17You ended up getting a safety later.
- 8:19So it's not like they ignored a position of need.
- 8:21And it sounds like they got a guy who's gonna fit in that b flow personality with Jacoby
- 8:27Thomas.
- 8:27Right?
- 8:28So value.
- 8:29I I just a hammer is what he is.
- 8:32Right?
- 8:32A a
- 8:33guy, people like him, and, you know, not just on the field, but off him, he's a leader.
- 8:38I think you got somebody there.
- 8:39You had five picks on the top 100.
- 8:42Right?
- 8:42Like, that's nothing to scoff at.
- 8:44I know people, you know, maybe got a little bit down about the grenade trade.
- 8:49No.
- 8:49You shoulda got a second this or that.
- 8:51The two thirds that you got, especially with the deep draft next year, is essentially a
- 8:56second round pick.
- 8:57So you're splitting hairs at that point.
- 9:00And I think you'd rather have a third this year and a third in next year's draft where who
- 9:05knows where it's gonna be.
- 9:07Right?
- 9:07Every season's different.
- 9:08Did this you know, it was the Eagles we ended up trading with with Gernard.
- 9:12Right?
- 9:12Yeah.
- 9:13Bomb.
- 9:14Right?
- 9:14They're they're an injury away from, you know, who do they have behind Jalen Hurd?
- 9:19Jalen Hurd goes down this year, which she's not necessarily prone to do, but shit happens in
- 9:23the NFL.
- 9:24I know we're looking at that as, like, a mid late third right now.
- 9:27It could turn into a very high third round pick, and you're going into next year with
- 9:31another three, four top 100 picks.
- 9:34I was pretty happy with it.
- 9:36You did get offensive line help.
- 9:38You got a center.
- 9:39You got an offensive tackle.
- 9:41You got another dog in the Iowa State, you know, big citrus.
- 9:46Like, you got I felt good about it.
- 9:48I was right where you are, Marcus, where it was like c plus, like, b minus range.
- 9:55If if banks works out, you're b plus.
- 9:57I think it's hard to, like, grade it as an a without having a high top first round, second
- 10:02round pick.
- 10:03Like, you're picking in the middle of the draft.
- 10:05So to me, all things considered, you're like a c to start.
- 10:09Right?
- 10:10You're average.
- 10:10You're getting an average draft just by consequence of where you're picking.
- 10:14So to come out with, like, a b plus in that and I think you're gonna have six at least of these
- 10:20guys that see significant playing time this year, like, right.
- 10:25So Good enough.
- 10:26I I don't know many teams that can do that in any one draft class.
- 10:30I I just felt like, like, Deanerman was that that was the my go to.
- 10:33That was like, I had
- 10:35the only hope it would take.
- 10:37So
- 10:39Where was Banks projected to go?
- 10:42Do we remember that?
- 10:43Do we remember seeing that Big B got us
- 10:46before it came out that he was hurt, they were saying he was gonna be a top 10 pick.
- 10:50Mhmm.
- 10:50With everything going and and from reports that I heard with possibility of being a top five.
- 10:57Right?
- 10:57Honestly, the Giants probably take him with those two top what they have?
- 11:01Two in the top eight or whatever they ended up after the trade?
- 11:17And I and I right.
- 11:18I realized they obviously had a deep run on the safeties going, look.
- 11:23We can get a guy that we're gonna be really happy with in that third round.
- 11:27Right?
- 11:27They're eyeing the Jacoby Thomas in that second tier, which is honestly what we did a lot of in
- 11:32our mock drafts was looking farther down.
- 11:35You you really only had maybe two positions.
- 11:38Now Banks was never on our radar, as far as that goes just because we were kinda doing, you
- 11:44know, big board and taking the draft as it comes.
- 11:47But I everything that I heard and Skoldoc was on with our guy rap with vocal bike, he doesn't
- 11:54seem to be concerned about it.
- 11:55Give the kid time to get healthy, which it seems like he never really had because he also
- 12:01realized where he's at in his career.
- 12:02He had to get into the draft this year.
- 12:05Florida didn't have a great season.
- 12:07You risk more injuries.
- 12:09You don't have NFL doctors in the collegiate ranks.
- 12:12Right?
- 12:13You don't have those insurance plans and and things in line for you.
- 12:17So I think in his head, he knows he's rushing back and then out there running around in track
- 12:22shoes.
- 12:23You break something that was probably stressed because you played on a foot that wasn't a 100%
- 12:28for the back half of the season, just trying to make your case for the NFL.
- 12:32So, like, as a man, I I look at the young man and go, it's unfortunate.
- 12:39You but you probably made the right decision for yourself, and now you got a chance to play
- 12:44in the league, man.
- 12:44Can you get healthy now and and go be the force that the Vikings believe you can be?
- 12:50Well, not only that, but, I mean, he gambled on himself and, came out well.
- 12:55I was just looking at what we signed our draft picks for, and I believe he's a little over
- 13:01twenty two mil.
- 13:03And the second round pick our second round pick, I'm blanking on his name, but I think
- 13:07he's a little nine.
- 13:09So it's like, hey.
- 13:10I'm just just being in the first round.
- 13:13Like, that's a a over half.
- 13:16And so just
- 13:17Engel alone gambled, and he ended up getting a first round, you know, pick paycheck.
- 13:24Like, he went from potentially only making 9,000,000 to getting 13,000,000 more.
- 13:30That's huge.
- 13:31Yeah.
- 13:32And and, unfortunately, for him, he probably lost an extra 30,000,000.
- 13:36Right?
- 13:37Because the top 10 picks more
- 13:38like So so what I'm seeing here, you know, googling Caleb Baker's pre draft ranking, they
- 13:45had them hovered around the thirty seventh to fifty second pick pre draft.
- 13:50Had them in the they had him in the early to late second round.
- 13:54I think that was that was after the the end
- 13:57That's the reviews came out.
- 13:59So, yeah, that was the pre draft ring.
- 14:01So
- 14:02Before the combine, they had they were looking at him as a top 10 pick hands down.
- 14:09And that I think that was pretty ubiquitous with everybody.
- 14:12And you may have to go back.
- 14:14Maybe Dane Brugler's beast would came out before that.
- 14:17I'm not sure when some of those
- 14:20So Google, before the twenty twenty six combine Florida State's tackle with Collin Banks was
- 14:26regarded as a high upside draft prospect with the mid to late first round grade often listed
- 14:33between, in the 50 to 60 range by major scouting outlets.
- 14:39So
- 14:40Wait.
- 14:41Did he play at Florida or Florida State?
- 14:43Florida.
- 14:43Florida.
- 14:44Yeah.
- 14:44He was a gator.
- 14:45Okay.
- 14:46Yeah.
- 14:47He he definitely made the right decision coming out of college because Florida used to be a
- 14:53powerhouse and had great, like, modern facilities and stuff.
- 14:59But the falloff that Florida as a university has had over the last ten to twelve years, it's
- 15:06actually really sad to look at because it just doesn't seem like that program cares right now.
- 15:12And I can understand why he'd wanna get out, come to the league, and be around people who
- 15:16are gonna rally around him and try to get him to be the specimen that he is.
- 15:22Well, that really goes from football and basketball for them.
- 15:26Mhmm.
- 15:27Let's just be honest.
- 15:29I was kinda looking forward to maybe a bit another big tight end too.
- 15:34You were looking forward to, like, an Eli Stowers, right hand?
- 15:38No.
- 15:39To be honest, I can't think of this guy's name, but Sadiq?
- 15:47Were you
- 15:47thinking Sadiq maybe?
- 15:50No.
- 15:50I don't I don't think that was it either.
- 15:52There there was another tall
- 15:54There was a guy who was, like, six seven.
- 15:56Every mock draft that we did, Marcus, redrafted a tight end in, like, the fifth or sixth round,
- 16:03and we're pretty happy with the guys that we had picked.
- 16:06And maybe those guys just weren't there.
- 16:07I know we we ended up with no sixth round, traded back a couple of times, picked up that
- 16:12extra fifth round, and got some ballers.
- 16:15I think they feel okay, especially with Hawk coming back on a restructured deal this year
- 16:19that you're gonna kinda get by.
- 16:20I think they like Josh Oliver.
- 16:22Right?
- 16:22And that's pretty, you know, obvious.
- 16:25He's it's not like he can't catch the ball.
- 16:27Now he's probably not as elusive and big as maybe you would like from, like, that u tight
- 16:35end position.
- 16:36Right?
- 16:37But the guy blocks his ass off.
- 16:38He's Oh,
- 16:39I understand.
- 16:40Yeah.
- 16:40You know?
- 16:41So I I I and I think we're gonna see we're gonna see what I think we wanted to see last
- 16:46year with the people they've brought in on the coaching staff and some of the adjustments that
- 16:51have been made, little bit more investment on the offensive line and bringing some guys in
- 16:57and and the moves that they've made, it seems like they're going to commit to the run-in a
- 17:02power running game a little bit more.
- 17:04Talk about the Damon Claiborne getting a home run hitting running back in that backfield.
- 17:12How do you feel about finally having some of that, you know, what, four four three, four
- 17:17four b speed back there?
- 17:22Who was that to?
- 17:24You.
- 17:25Me?
- 17:25Yeah.
- 17:26I was asking you what what he what Claiborne ran his 40 in.
- 17:30I don't know if you have that.
- 17:32I can look.
- 17:33I think he has, like, a four three seven.
- 17:35Picking up somebody that can finally hit a home run from the backfield that's not named Jordan
- 17:39Addison.
- 17:40Well
- 17:41Right.
- 17:42If if if we use them.
- 17:44Right?
- 17:44I mean, Who
- 17:46was the guy you guys had a few years ago?
- 17:50He came out of Florida State.
- 17:52Was it it was one of the Cook brothers, not James, but Galvin.
- 17:55Galvin.
- 17:56Galvin.
- 17:56He was supposed to be that home run back.
- 17:59He was.
- 18:02He got hurt.
- 18:03I mean
- 18:04I wasn't really following the team then.
- 18:06Did they let him walk, or or what ended up happened with Dalvin Cook?
- 18:09Because I thought he was a hell of a running back.
- 18:11Yeah.
- 18:11We let him walk.
- 18:12Yeah.
- 18:13Yeah.
- 18:15He he was get there.
- 18:16So he used him a lot.
- 18:18He
- 18:19was alright, but he wasn't as fast.
- 18:21Like, he I don't consider
- 18:22him that.
- 18:23He didn't have that breakaway speed.
- 18:24If he got little Power back.
- 18:26Yeah.
- 18:27Right.
- 18:30Yeah.
- 18:30Well and Daman will kinda be that first one that we've seen around here maybe since the the
- 18:36AP days, honestly, that can break one off.
- 18:39And granted, he's not the same guy, you know, as far as breaking tackles and, you know, I
- 18:44mean, AP's a generational, I would consider.
- 18:46AP can do it all.
- 18:48What yeah.
- 18:49I mean, probably I mean, he I think he is regarded as one of the best.
- 18:52If he could have stayed healthy, you know, may have been right up there with, you know, any of
- 18:58the So Clay so Clayborne's official time was four point three seven for the 40.
- 19:05I
- 19:06knew it.
- 19:07Man.
- 19:07Coach, can you
- 19:08talk about how fast that actually is?
- 19:11Like, have you seen guys?
- 19:12Now you got a guy that's pretty fast on your team with the cavalry.
- 19:16Mhmm.
- 19:16Now I don't know if Speedy's moving on, but, like, we probably don't have an official 40
- 19:21time on that.
- 19:22But, like, how fast is that to put in, like I mean, that's a flash to me.
- 19:27I can't remember.
- 19:28Hey.
- 19:28What up?
- 19:29We're twinning.
- 19:30Hey.
- 19:31I got 240 of them.
- 19:33You know, we we we actually coordinated.
- 19:35We had so much speed with the cavalry and the bears.
- 19:39It was ridiculous.
- 19:42Speedy is well, it's fast, but I'd almost put Bo Butler fastest fastest player I've ever
- 19:47seen.
- 19:48Fastest.
- 19:50He just gets cooking.
- 19:52We I I actually had a few a handful of players hitting, like, four three.
- 19:59One hit four two nine or four two seven, something like that.
- 20:04So we we had we had a bunch of speed, and it's ridiculous just watching them go right past
- 20:10you.
- 20:10Like, get going.
- 20:12Four two just sounds like a touchdown in sub ten seconds is what it sounds like.
- 20:16Yeah.
- 20:17Pretty much.
- 20:19And then and then, you know, considering we play arena, so it's 50 yards.
- 20:24I mean, by the time
- 20:26you get in five seconds.
- 20:28Yeah.
- 20:29That's dope.
- 20:29Yeah.
- 20:30We're getting a little bit of a tour, man.
- 20:31Is the basement done, Marcus?
- 20:33I can't hear anybody, bro.
- 20:35Oh, no.
- 20:36Well, we can hear you.
- 20:37Yeah.
- 20:38We can
- 20:38hear you.
- 20:40I'm sitting here.
- 20:41Check it out.
- 20:42Oh.
- 20:43Oh.
- 20:45Okay.
- 20:45Okay.
- 20:46Finally got my office done.
- 20:48Take that table.
- 20:51So and then I'm actually getting a we're gonna get a t, T shirt press.
- 20:57So I but it actually prints ink.
- 21:00It's not heat press.
- 21:02But it's gonna be about the size of that purple line.
- 21:06Dog, your basement looks perfect for a tattoo shop.
- 21:09Yeah.
- 21:11Just saying.
- 21:12Yeah.
- 21:13The wife's room, bro, she she wanted glass walls, but I looked at the price on some of
- 21:20those, bro.
- 21:20They wanted, like, $8.
- 21:22So I just got a couple of French doors, and I framed them in.
- 21:26There you go.
- 21:26There you go.
- 21:29I like that.
- 21:30She's got it.
- 21:31Yeah.
- 21:31All all her
- 21:31She's her game day gear, which mind you at 04:30 in the morning when when it's dark and
- 21:35I'm going to work, that's a little startling.
- 21:38Gonna go.
- 21:39I don't know if
- 21:40I can just stand in there shadowing me.
- 21:44But, yeah, then we got a barn style doors everywhere.
- 21:50Yeah.
- 21:50Shelley and I Shelley and I did all the work ourselves.
- 21:53Yeah, man.
- 21:53You guys knocked it out of the park.
- 21:55It looks so good.
- 21:56Yeah.
- 21:56Know you were a fiend when you got a coffee bar in your master bedroom.
- 22:02Damn.
- 22:03I'm jealous.
- 22:05That's diabolical.
- 22:07But I love it.
- 22:08Step in master bath.
- 22:10Yeah.
- 22:11That tub, man.
- 22:14Yo.
- 22:14Can you do ice wash Shelly's closets?
- 22:16I'm putting her on the blast right now.
- 22:18Yeah.
- 22:18She got eight closets in her closet.
- 22:21She said it his and hers, and that's just yours and mine.
- 22:24Mine's upstairs.
- 22:27I gotta go upstairs to change clothes.
- 22:29Oh, jeez.
- 22:30Vader outfits.
- 22:33It's Vader outfits, three T shirts, and 200 hats.
- 22:36Yeah.
- 22:36Vader's up in
- 22:37the Yeah.
- 22:38Actually.
- 22:41Speaking of that oh, man.
- 22:44Oh, man.
- 22:45It is just show and tell today.
- 22:46Yeah.
- 22:47And you don't know you
- 22:49don't know what you got.
- 22:50I only I only got one.
- 22:51I only got one of them with me right now.
- 22:53But There you go.
- 22:54Shout out Skunk Golf Company.
- 22:57You feel me?
- 22:57I got another one.
- 22:58Let me join you.
- 22:59Hey.
- 23:00I don't have the white one.
- 23:01So
- 23:02Yo.
- 23:02That one is dope.
- 23:03No.
- 23:04I would I think I got the I I have to go in my car.
- 23:07That's where my box is, but I got a couple of the skunkheads.
- 23:10I think I got the silver and the black one.
- 23:13We're gonna
- 23:13have I
- 23:14got this too.
- 23:14Check this out.
- 23:15What is a skunkhead?
- 23:17Skunk Golf is our sponsor of our golf content on the show.
- 23:21So look good even if your game stinks as their best Logan
- 23:25in the world.
- 23:26Dope.
- 23:26I love that.
- 23:27Oh, got a
- 23:27Good.
- 23:28Drop here
- 23:28in the last couple of weeks, and, yeah, really excited for all the guys to be outfitted.
- 23:34But, yeah, they got some great hats, and, yeah, we've just been we've a lot
- 23:39of stuff.
- 23:39Putting together a video of me wearing the gear.
- 23:43So Same.
- 23:44There you go.
- 23:44I I just finished two custom portraits.
- 23:48I did some branding for stroke of luck charity.
- 23:53So the guy's his son was 14 years old, suffered his first stroke.
- 23:56Doctors told him that kids that age don't have strokes.
- 23:59He's sitting here trying to advocate for his son saying, I know my kid.
- 24:03Something's not right.
- 24:04This is not.
- 24:06Find out that the kid did have a stroke.
- 24:09I heard you talk
- 24:09to him.
- 24:10And now he's he's actually suffered two strokes, had to re walk again.
- 24:15But they got a a JJ Wetterholt.
- 24:19So apparently signed with the Saint Louis Cardinals.
- 24:24Oh, that was dope.
- 24:26This is got the portrait we did I did for him.
- 24:30Awesome, man.
- 24:31That's awesome.
- 24:31And then we put their logo in here.
- 24:34What?
- 24:37Then That
- 24:37kid's gonna be good, by the way.
- 24:39JJ?
- 24:40Yeah.
- 24:40He's gonna be really good.
- 24:41And the other portrait has their logo on the top.
- 24:49Yeah.
- 24:49Nice.
- 24:50Well, yeah, we're gonna have to, have to have you connect us with them too.
- 24:54We got some really cool, some some really cool stuff.
- 24:57We're not quite announcing yet, but, I'm planning a couple of trips up, up that way this
- 25:04summer and, would love to connect with them.
- 25:07And, yeah, man, it just
- 25:10They're they're out of Baltimore.
- 25:11To the family.
- 25:13Yeah.
- 25:13100%.
- 25:14Yeah.
- 25:14They're out of Baltimore.
- 25:15They saw some of my work online.
- 25:17The guy just happened to reach out to me, not even knowing my connection with helping out in
- 25:22charity work.
- 25:23And, so I just had one conversation with him, and I told him, you know, let let me help you
- 25:28out.
- 25:28Let's help raise money for you.
- 25:30And now they're already talking about wanting to do a football and basketball.
- 25:34He did already tell me that they work closely with Ray Lewis, so we're hoping to do something
- 25:38with Ray.
- 25:40So I'm like, bro, I'm a Vikings fan, but I'm a football fan, bro.
- 25:44So that would be dope as you know what I mean?
- 25:47Yeah.
- 25:47I'm not stupid.
- 25:49Bro, if you could get
- 25:50Ray Lewis to do his tunnel entrance.
- 25:54Yo.
- 25:55Oh, No.
- 25:56That was
- 25:59That's the that's the thing I miss about 52 the most, man.
- 26:02Every Sunday, he'd come out of that tunnel and just hit that, and I'm just like
- 26:06Yep.
- 26:06Oh, it's it's gonna be a game.
- 26:08See, that that and Brian Dawkins coming out of it.
- 26:12Yeah.
- 26:13Brian Dawkins is a beans too.
- 26:15Yep.
- 26:16Well, guys, I I loved chatting and everything, but we gotta run a quick ad for our sponsors,
- 26:24and then I'm gonna run a little interview that I did with John McDonald.
- 26:27So John was the Vikings international fan of the year, and he got to go out on the stage and
- 26:35announce the draft pick for Charles Demings.
- 26:38Just so cool.
- 26:39So I had to chat with him for a few minutes.
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- 27:54Well, so happy to have my friend John McDonald on the show with us for Vikings United.
- 27:59John is one of the international fans of the year, the only selection for our Minnesota
- 28:05Vikings.
- 28:05Speaking of selections, you got to go make one for the Vikings during the draft, John.
- 28:11We're here to talk about that experience, man.
- 28:14It had to be an absolute thrill for you.
- 28:17Yeah.
- 28:18Yeah.
- 28:18It's one of the one of the greatest.
- 28:20As I keep saying to people, this is the Mount Everest of NFL fandom, picking a future player
- 28:27for your team on stage live at the draft.
- 28:30You you can't I can't think of a bigger bigger step than that, really.
- 28:37Nope.
- 28:37You sure can't.
- 28:38And I don't think, many of us fans will ever sniff anything even close to that.
- 28:44So I was really happy already being friends with you and kind of following your journey a
- 28:48little bit.
- 28:49It was a perfect time to have you, invite you in to Vikings United and and talk about this.
- 28:55What player did you get to announce?
- 28:57Charles Demings.
- 29:00Fantastic.
- 29:01No.
- 29:02It it wasn't quarterback.
- 29:03They wouldn't allow me to say quarterback.
- 29:05Defensive back because they wanna they wanna keep him on the cheek wanna keep him on the
- 29:08cheek.
- 29:09Steven Ethel Austin.
- 29:11Yep.
- 29:13So funny.
- 29:14So what was the, you know, pregame?
- 29:16You flying out, obviously.
- 29:17You're you're from, The UK, flying into the, you know, into Pittsburgh there.
- 29:23Talk about just everything from the flight, the anticipation, and that moment leading up to,
- 29:29you getting to step on the stage.
- 29:31Yeah.
- 29:31The the Vikings were very generous.
- 29:33They flew they flew me and a friend out there for, we landed on the Tuesday evening, and then
- 29:40we've done a q and a with Roger Goodell on the Wednesday.
- 29:44We got all backstage on the on the Thursday just before the, just before the draft.
- 29:50We got to see the where all the players would be sitting when they're getting picked.
- 29:53We got to walk the red carpet on the Friday Thursday or Friday.
- 29:59It it was just so much.
- 30:01Literally, from 8AM in the morning till about midnight, we were nonstop until Saturday night.
- 30:09It was nuts.
- 30:12Yeah.
- 30:13And for a guy that you know, I know you work nights, so you're probably used to a little bit
- 30:17quieter lifestyle, in your day to day life to kind of be thrust out into the spotlight like
- 30:24that for four days.
- 30:26It's just a whirlwind, isn't it?
- 30:28Oh, it was just an utter utter whirlwind, and I'm still still coming down off it now.
- 30:33But, yeah, it's just what I'm trying to explain to people over here, just people I work with is
- 30:38like, yeah.
- 30:39It's a pretty big that's a pretty big deal.
- 30:41Pretty big deal what I've just done.
- 30:44Yeah.
- 30:44And I understand that a lot of international fans don't maybe understand how big the NFL is
- 30:51and how big of a production that all of these moments are.
- 30:55And, on an international level, it's not as big as football.
- 30:58And, obviously, you have Premier League soccer around The UK, which is just a massive, you
- 31:03know, fandom and some of the wildest fans on the planet.
- 31:07But the NFL really goes above and beyond with their production of everything.
- 31:13Right?
- 31:13It's not just on game day.
- 31:16It in the draft, in many ways, is one of their marquee events of the year, and it's an awesome
- 31:21opportunity for them to give back to the fans and the fan bases of all of these teams.
- 31:28And what an incredible, you know, a a portion of that that the international fan of the year
- 31:34from each team gets to gets to come out and experience that.
- 31:38And not just one day, you were out there for nearly an entire week soaking it all in.
- 31:44Has this, has it deepened your love for the team now that much more?
- 31:50I I've always had a great relationship with the team because work being over the Vikings being
- 31:55over here so often, I run a fan club over here, and the Viking Vikings front office work hand
- 32:01in hand with us.
- 32:02But the the steps the Vikings took just to give us the extra experience and the NFL and
- 32:08everything they put on is just unbelievable.
- 32:10I mean, I haven't even got round two.
- 32:13I was, I had Brian O'Neil do an interview with me in Pittsburgh because he was then announcing
- 32:19picks as well.
- 32:20So Vikings have got that on their social media that they're gonna gonna release at some point.
- 32:25But, yeah, it's just been a bit really hectic.
- 32:30Yeah.
- 32:30No off season for you, John.
- 32:33No.
- 32:33No.
- 32:34No.
- 32:34I do I I absolutely love it.
- 32:36This the experience is is something very few Vikings fans or any any NFL fan would ever get
- 32:43to experience.
- 32:44Yeah.
- 32:45Wait.
- 32:45And can you talk a little bit about now assuming that you were, probably got to attend
- 32:50last year when they played in The UK?
- 32:54Yeah.
- 32:54I did I did actually both games that were over here.
- 32:57We don't, because we played two games.
- 32:59We played the Dublin game, and then we played the London game.
- 33:02And I actually cycled between the two games, raising money for charity.
- 33:07We raised just about £6,000 for mental health charity over here in The UK.
- 33:13So, yeah, between those two games, I was I I kind of set up all the pregame for for every
- 33:18every every game and then was just like, like, you you guys all need to be there at this point
- 33:24and trying to run trying to run the club whilst I'm cycling between the two two games.
- 33:29But, yeah, it was yeah.
- 33:30The the Vikings have always put on a great show over here in in London and in Dublin now.
- 33:37Pretty incredible.
- 33:38And talk about your, your fan group that you run and shout that out too so we can have help
- 33:44you grow that with more of our UK fans.
- 33:47The the greater network, the Scene Projects, has quite a bit of a footprint over there.
- 33:51So I'd love for you to shout out the the group that you run.
- 33:55Yeah.
- 33:55We we I help run The UK and Ireland Minnesota Vikings fan club.
- 33:59Yeah.
- 33:59We've been going for just over ten years now.
- 34:02But, yeah, with the Vikings playing so many games over here in the last couple of years,
- 34:06it's really grown exponentially.
- 34:08And to any of your, fans who come over for a game, look us up because we do a great party on
- 34:15this especially on the Sunday morning.
- 34:17I mean, the Vikings the first time we played over here when we were part of the club was the
- 34:23Saints game, and the Vikings came down and were kind of babysitting us, just guiding us.
- 34:28Then since then, they were just like, no.
- 34:30No.
- 34:31You guy you guys do the Sunday morning.
- 34:32We don't wanna get involved.
- 34:33You do that too well.
- 34:34We don't wanna get involved in that.
- 34:36We'll we'll do our own thing, but you guys on the Sunday morning, no.
- 34:39That's all over to you.
- 34:40We'll send our fans your way.
- 34:43Just incredible.
- 34:44And I love the buy in from the team to make sure that they are nurturing those
- 34:49international fandoms.
- 34:50And talk a little bit about that because, you know, we're we're playing sometimes late in the
- 34:55evening.
- 34:55You know, the night games are a lot harder.
- 34:57There's six hour difference between Minneapolis time and, your local time there in The UK.
- 35:04Do you find it difficult sometimes just to engage live with the games, or has the
- 35:10technology that we have now really made that a nonissue?
- 35:14It really has made it a lot less of an issue now because fans are fans that we we've got a
- 35:20couple of different chats, everything like that.
- 35:22We've got European fans we've chat to as well.
- 35:25So so we all feel so connected now.
- 35:27It's not not like you're just sitting there, like, what what it was ten, fifteen years ago
- 35:32when you'd feel like you're sitting there alone.
- 35:34The only person in the only person watching this game at silly o'clock in the morning at
- 35:40the start kicking off at 01:00 in the morning over here.
- 35:43You don't feel so alone.
- 35:44You've got fans.
- 35:45Oh, that's a great great catch.
- 35:46Oh, I have my stream.
- 35:47I haven't caught up with that one yet.
- 35:48Quite.
- 35:49You get a couple couple with thirty seconds difference.
- 35:52But, yeah, it's it's brilliant, and it's just yeah.
- 35:55It's the the enthusiasm of all European countries for the Vikings is exponential.
- 36:01It's one of and it's due to the Vikings putting so much effort into their international market
- 36:09because it's just I cannot speak highly enough of them and key Keisha Wyatt, who's director of
- 36:15international marketing, she will go absolutely above and beyond.
- 36:19She's put players over here where we we've done meetup.
- 36:22They've organized big meetups with fans and players.
- 36:24It's just absolutely amazing, and I cannot speak highly enough of everything the Vikings
- 36:29are putting into the international marketing over here.
- 36:33Yeah.
- 36:33I just think it's incredible.
- 36:35What a what an awesome organization to get to work beside.
- 36:38We are good friends with quite a few members now of the Viking World Order, super fan group,
- 36:44season ticket holders in Section 140.
- 36:47We'll be doing some pregame action, live from their tailgate hosted by sir Death later on
- 36:53when the season gets going.
- 36:55But when we're not and we have the away games, we're here in studio.
- 36:59So we'd love to have, some of you international fans, people from your group, and the other
- 37:04European fans that you know to to come on with us and help celebrate this team and talk a
- 37:09little ball and talk about, you know, the perspective from an international fan's sake.
- 37:14I think it's really, important for us to build those bridges in the fandom as well, not just
- 37:20with the team, but with each other.
- 37:22So I really appreciate you taking a few minutes for me today, chiming in with us.
- 37:27You're always welcome on any of our shows and to come back and to talk Vikings football with
- 37:32us whenever you like, John.
- 37:34Thank you so much for having me, and I'll definitely take you up on that offer.
- 37:38Definitely take you up on that offer.
- 37:39Well, we've all been seeing your face all over Vikings Internet land, and it's been an
- 37:44absolute pleasure getting to know you a little bit better today, getting to hear a little bit
- 37:48about that experience on stage.
- 37:51And, we can't wait to, connect more with you and the rest of your fan base and to keep
- 37:57growing.
- 37:57So thank you for being on the show tonight, and thank you for being part of the scene.
- 38:03Thank you very much for having me.
- 38:04Thank you.
- 38:09That was our buddy, John McDonald.
- 38:12Now, we lost Marcus, who I know has relationship.
- 38:17Those super fans all all get together a a lot, but such a cool conversation to have with John,
- 38:25talk about his experience at the draft.
- 38:27It was just really incredible.
- 38:29And, obviously, he's been kinda making the rounds on all the other Vikings fan podcast and
- 38:36whatnot.
- 38:36So really grateful that I got to spend some time with him and to get that shot.
- 38:41Six hour difference.
- 38:42So he wasn't quite able to come on and do it live with us.
- 38:44Yeah.
- 38:45Well, I him on the show.
- 38:47How did you get that contact?
- 38:49Oh, I saw him online, and I've actually been friends with him on Facebook longer.
- 38:54So I had him on Facebook, and then I just started seeing him everywhere.
- 38:59He was on the Vikings.
- 39:00And, actually, what it what it had happened was that I saw him on they had a, like, a blog post
- 39:08or something they made on the actual Vikings Okay.
- 39:14On the Vikings website or on the app.
- 39:17And I saw his face on there and saw him on the stage.
- 39:20It was like, hey, man.
- 39:21You know, sure you've probably seen this already, but this is that.
- 39:24And then, yeah, just made the offer.
- 39:25Said, hey.
- 39:26You know, if you if you could give me ten minutes of your time, I would love to have you
- 39:30on and, you know, talk talk some ball and talk about that experience.
- 39:34And like he said, the the Mount Everest.
- 39:37Right?
- 39:37The the pinnacle of any Viking fan as close as you're gonna get.
- 39:41I mean, even being on the field, I don't know.
- 39:44Like, because a lot of people can get on the field.
- 39:46Very, very few get the opportunity to go out there at the draft and announce a draft pick
- 39:51like that.
- 39:51It's freaking incredible, man.
- 39:52So,
- 39:53yeah, really, really glad that I reached out and and so thankful to John for coming on the
- 39:58show.
- 39:58That was cool.
- 39:59Anybody.
- 40:00No.
- 40:01That that that definitely was I mean, it is definitely a honor to do that for him.
- 40:09I mean, I guess, in any
- 40:10case odds.
- 40:11Try it again.
- 40:13You know, so good good for him.
- 40:15I mean, like you said, it's a select few that get to do that and just to, you know, be able
- 40:22to announce a pick for your favorite team.
- 40:24I mean, you know, that that that would be something I would definitely talk about
- 40:30forever.
- 40:31So You feel me?
- 40:32You feel me though?
- 40:33What an unbelievable experience.
- 40:35Oh,
- 40:36man.
- 40:36Million thing.
- 40:37You feel me?
- 40:38Like, Bubba, you made up a good great point.
- 40:40A lot of people can get on the field at an NFL game.
- 40:44You know, I've done it.
- 40:45But I don't think I'll ever be able to say that I've announced a draft pick.
- 40:50That's that is what, like, Everest
- 40:53right there.
- 40:54Well, the thing is too is, you know, to be able to announce it, but just to be on the stage, a
- 41:00part of it, I mean, we've seen groups go up there and, you know, maybe that's something
- 41:04that, you know, when the draft comes here that maybe mister Bubba there with the, you know,
- 41:09mind behind everything just to do, and we all could be a part of that experience.
- 41:14I
- 41:15mean Hey.
- 41:15You know I'm
- 41:16working every angle, man.
- 41:17We're trying to get out there and more.
- 41:19I'm doing whatever I can to get more Hey.
- 41:21With the organization, brother.
- 41:23And I
- 41:24am I am doing my doing my darndest to make sure that it's happening because I know that we we
- 41:31have something special here.
- 41:32And all we all we need to do is to get that introduction, just meet the right people that
- 41:37can open those doors for us.
- 41:39You know, our relationship with Marcus and and and just that whole VWO crew, the the the
- 41:47organization knows who they are.
- 41:48Right?
- 41:49Like, they know people inside of there.
- 41:51So it it definitely helps to to have those relationships and to continue fostering them.
- 41:56And I think for us, especially with our veteran connections and being you know, having pillars
- 42:01of valor as a part of what we do and, obviously, operation combating veteran suicide,
- 42:06They're watching those things.
- 42:07They they don't wanna work with just anyone that's out there.
- 42:10They wanna work with people that are doing things and doing big things in the community as
- 42:14well.
- 42:15So we're just trying to do our part and and to put ourselves on their radar and, for the right
- 42:20reasons.
- 42:21Right?
- 42:21Right.
- 42:22Not not because pods are streaking across US Bank Stadium.
- 42:28And only and only a skunk speedo.
- 42:30Right.
- 42:31Right.
- 42:31Oh, skunk speedo.
- 42:33Do not give Aubrey any ideas.
- 42:38Why would why would I give her ideas?
- 42:40I I guess we need to figure out this here.
- 42:42Aubrey's Aubrey's one of the co owners of Skunk.
- 42:45That's like
- 42:46Oh, okay.
- 42:46Gotcha.
- 42:47Gotcha.
- 42:47Gotcha.
- 42:48Okay.
- 42:50In respects to the interview though, like, you know how he was trying to articulate how big of
- 42:57an honor or, like, how big of a thing for the fandom it is to be able to announce a pick, it
- 43:02would pretty much be the same thing as if whatever your Premier League team like, me, I'm
- 43:08a Liverpool fan.
- 43:09Right?
- 43:10So for me, it'd be like me getting to announce, oh, we just got Christian Polasek or some crazy
- 43:17transfer, and I get to do that on, like, Sky News or something and announce that, that would
- 43:23be in insane.
- 43:25You you get to, like, be like, oh, and either way, we are transferring you know, we're
- 43:32getting transfer fees ready, and we're gonna bring in Holosec.
- 43:35And it's like that'd be, like, the equivalent in The UK of bringing in a number one draft
- 43:42pick or a number one free agent site.
- 43:46Yeah.
- 43:46So
- 43:48pretty pretty incredible stuff.
- 43:50And just, grateful.
- 43:51Grateful that, you know, when I reach out now, people answer, and and it and it feels good to
- 43:57know that we are becoming a home for the fans and for Vikings fans to come and and spend some
- 44:04time and really NFL fans.
- 44:06Right?
- 44:06We've had other, teams fans on and stuff too.
- 44:09And, really, we just like we like talking ball, and that's what it's about.
- 44:13It's about the camaraderie that the NFL brings to all of us.
- 44:17And, you know, when the season gets going, the blood boils a little bit hotter.
- 44:24But especially in the off season, you know, everybody's zero and zero.
- 44:27Right?
- 44:28Everybody's undefeated, so it's a lot of fun to just
- 44:32talk The biggest stories you got is mini camp and stuff.
- 44:36Right.
- 44:36Right.
- 44:37And that's why we probably won't be on very long tonight at all because what what are we
- 44:41gonna talk about?
- 44:42Right?
- 44:43There's not much there.
- 44:44It was nice to have as far as
- 44:46serpentine Dunbar, Dunbar, Dunbar, Dunbar,
- 44:57but Diggs needs to keep little Dunbar, Dunbar, Diggs in his pants.
- 45:00That's true too.
- 45:02That's true too.
- 45:03Alright?
- 45:04And I I would I just wanna say something real quick.
- 45:06Bubba, I'm gonna use one of my favorite metaphors for you.
- 45:09Alright?
- 45:11You built it, and now the opportunities are coming.
- 45:15Yep.
- 45:16Facts.
- 45:17Yep.
- 45:18I I appreciate it.
- 45:20And hey.
- 45:21All they got all the Vikings gotta do is check out my resume, and then I'll probably help us
- 45:27get on that draft stage.
- 45:28You feel me?
- 45:31I just won't get out
- 45:32of your resume and be like, alright.
- 45:34Defensive backs coach now.
- 45:37Thank you.
- 45:37Yep.
- 45:38Get him in there.
- 45:40Get him in there.
- 45:41It's, pretty I feel now
- 45:43I feel awkward having this one.
- 45:45I gotta put my He's gonna go get this strong one.
- 45:47I was wondering how long you're gonna take out the Switch hats there.
- 45:50I'm so
- 45:51jealous that you two got the Vice hat, man.
- 45:53I really
- 45:54I'm I'm I'm not a fan.
- 45:56I like the pants.
- 45:57Go buy a vice hat.
- 45:59Oh.
- 45:59The vice pretty sick.
- 46:01The vice are pretty sick.
- 46:02We're gonna look good, man.
- 46:03We gotta get pods out for the skunk classic since Bee's gonna have to, you know, be at work
- 46:08and and make sure that they don't sink the island.
- 46:12Me and
- 46:12Bee are twinning.
- 46:13No.
- 46:15And then you and Coach are twinning.
- 46:17You got it.
- 46:18Yep.
- 46:18We coordinated this.
- 46:20Right.
- 46:20Right.
- 46:21Absolutely coordinated this.
- 46:23I think I already showed it off, but do you mind if I show it off one more time for the
- 46:26viewers?
- 46:27Go ahead.
- 46:27Sure.
- 46:28Alright.
- 46:29So just again, Skunk does more hats.
- 46:32They also have some polos, but I'm gonna show off my favorite bit.
- 46:36This is the black polyester pullover, and then it's got the hood, and then you've got the
- 46:42Skunk logo on here.
- 46:44Yeah.
- 46:44Step forward or step so they can see the whole logo.
- 46:47You did get the gray pullover.
- 46:48Nice, b.
- 46:49Those are nice.
- 46:50Yeah.
- 46:52I mean
- 46:53I got the black, dude, and it was cold today, so it came in clutch.
- 46:57Yo.
- 46:57I got I got the I got the vice hat and then the polo to match.
- 47:03That's dope.
- 47:04And then I got the black one with the gray skunk and then a polo to match that one.
- 47:10So they really like, they set us up.
- 47:12They actually set us up.
- 47:14I'm I'm grateful for that.
- 47:16Yeah.
- 47:16Now if I could just get on the damn golf course, it was 39 degrees when I got up this
- 47:20morning.
- 47:21You know what I'm gonna do, though?
- 47:23I'm gonna get a, I'm gonna get a driver head cover that's a skunk, and then I'm gonna get a,
- 47:31a five wood cover that's a fox for my channel.
- 47:35So I'll have the skunk,
- 47:36and then I'll have the fox.
- 47:38Nice.
- 47:39Yeah.
- 47:40No.
- 47:40I'll be, big beef If you, want just let me know when you're free.
- 47:44Well, no.
- 47:45I I got no when you're free.
- 47:47Hey.
- 47:47Because you're the guy that has 20 different things going on in a twenty four hour day.
- 47:51They went from
- 47:52same two days off for twenty years.
- 47:56I'm off I'm off I'm off Thursdays, you know, or I could do it early afternoon when I'm off
- 48:03typically at three.
- 48:04So
- 48:06Bad.
- 48:06Bad.
- 48:06And
- 48:07I called coach today.
- 48:08He picked up the phone on, like, the second ring.
- 48:11He he must have been waiting for a call.
- 48:13Don't ask for something.
- 48:14I mean No.
- 48:15I I dropped one of my jobs.
- 48:18No.
- 48:21No.
- 48:21I I got a little bit more freedom now.
- 48:23A little bit more freedom.
- 48:24I was able to drop one of my jobs.
- 48:26I'm actually moving.
- 48:27Big deal, I'll let you know.
- 48:28Very close.
- 48:29So
- 48:30Okay.
- 48:31But, yeah, it's a lot of big things going on lately.
- 48:35A lot of big things.
- 48:36Big changes.
- 48:38It's in the air because there's there's a lot of big changes coming here at the sports
- 48:42network, especially it is growing and and a lot more teams to cover.
- 48:48I got ten days or so.
- 48:51I'll be visiting with the Sioux Falls Canaries talking about some coverage of their team, you
- 48:56know, there.
- 48:57Baseball?
- 48:58And, yeah, a a lot more a lot more on the horizon.
- 49:01We talked a little bit about BoomBall on seven eight nine this week and some possibilities
- 49:06there.
- 49:07Always kinda looking for other opportunities.
- 49:10Right?
- 49:10You you gotta knock on all those doors, and once we find them, we're good to go.
- 49:15Well, there's an opportunity in a couple weeks where that guy's gonna be doing a trial.
- 49:20So I hope to be there, we'll try to get some, interviews going and stuff like that.
- 49:26So Yeah.
- 49:27Would be fun.
- 49:28May 23.
- 49:30May 23, 5PM to seven.
- 49:32I gotta ask coach something.
- 49:33What's up?
- 49:35Coach, given how Flores is I in my opinion, outside of Steve Spagnola and I know I'm a
- 49:42Chiefs fan, but just given his record, everything he's done with the New York Giants
- 49:45and with the Kansas City Chiefs.
- 49:47When I look at Flores, though, and what he was able to accomplish in Miami and what he was
- 49:51able to do with that defense in Pittsburgh and absolutely what he's done with Minnesota, what
- 49:58do they need to do to get a serious offense to help him out?
- 50:02Because I feel like the possessions that Flores' defense have be that give the offense
- 50:08the extra opportunity to score has just not been capitalized on.
- 50:12Yeah.
- 50:12It's sickening.
- 50:13It's absolutely it's
- 50:14the future.
- 50:16I well, I it's we got a a k o c k o c.
- 50:21We've talked about it on our, Minnesota Vikings pregame show, but just run the ball.
- 50:27You know?
- 50:28Just run the ball.
- 50:29You didn't have to throw thirty, forty times with Brosemer and put him out to slaughter.
- 50:35You know what I'm saying?
- 50:36You don't have to do that with JJ.
- 50:39Our offensive line needed help.
- 50:40We did we addressed the situation.
- 50:42So JJ is not ready.
- 50:45JJ needs to sit behind somebody.
- 50:47Well, I mean
- 50:48Well, he's got Kyler this year.
- 50:49He could
- 50:50sit he could sit behind him and still be taller.
- 50:53You you wanna know something that's gonna sound, like, really offensive to Kyler Murray,
- 50:59but I'm gonna say it because I believe it.
- 51:01I've been watching Kyler Murray since he was in Oklahoma and he won that Heisman.
- 51:04That system won him a Heisman.
- 51:08Yeah.
- 51:09He's a phenomenal athlete, but he's not a good quarterback.
- 51:15Well and that and that's the thing I've been saying too.
- 51:17It's like, k.
- 51:18Yeah.
- 51:19Kyle's got the experience.
- 51:20Kyle could probably do a little bit more than JJ could do, but, again, can our offensive line
- 51:26help Kyler do that stuff?
- 51:28I mean, that's the whole that's where I'm stuck at is is our offensive line good enough to
- 51:33Yeah.
- 51:33Let Kyler do that.
- 51:34Offensive line could do that, though, B.
- 51:36I don't know if Kyler Murray can make those decisions in the pocket or outside of the
- 51:43pocket to get the ball downfield because I feel like Kyler just he throws in double coverage a
- 51:49lot.
- 51:50He throws into, you know, shadow safeties coming Like I
- 51:54I believe I believe this is the best receiving card he's had in his career.
- 51:59So you know?
- 52:00I don't know about that.
- 52:01He had, at one point, DeAndre Hopkins, Marquise Brown you know, Marquise Hopkins Brown in his
- 52:06prime.
- 52:08Possibly.
- 52:08Right?
- 52:09Zach Kurtz for a little bit?
- 52:11Yeah.
- 52:12Yeah.
- 52:12So maybe Okay.
- 52:13So So
- 52:14but but the thing is I think our office our office alone has to be productive for us to
- 52:19help the defense out, I think.
- 52:22So I'm gonna it's I think that, but, I just saw a YouTube short a couple days ago.
- 52:29It was Brock Purdy talking about, just the quarterback position and him and himself.
- 52:35He I think he said, like, 40% or 50% of the time, he actually can see the wide receiver
- 52:43because Yep.
- 52:44All of his linemen are six six, six seven.
- 52:46He's short too.
- 52:48So it's it's all timing.
- 52:50How many how many steps is your wide receiver gonna take or how many strides?
- 52:53Where is he gonna be?
- 52:55Do you, is there gonna be a linebacker sitting there that you gotta loop it over?
- 53:00You know what I'm saying?
- 53:01Like
- 53:02Yeah.
- 53:02And if homeboy is too busy
- 53:04playing video games bread.
- 53:05You
- 53:07know what I'm saying?
- 53:08If if he's too busy trying
- 53:10to play zombies or Call of Duty or something and not actually trying to play
- 53:14If you're gonna play some video games, at least be playing CFB or freaking Madden.
- 53:19Yeah.
- 53:19Something.
- 53:20Something.
- 53:22But,
- 53:23I just JJ McCarthy, he he like, if if Brock Purdy's saying something like that and he was
- 53:31able to make it to a Super Bowl, You know what I'm saying?
- 53:34Like, JJ, you gotta put in some work.
- 53:36You gotta put in some work.
- 53:38You gotta be able to anticipate and trust yourself.
- 53:41This
- 53:43is his first off season.
- 53:44Right?
- 53:45True.
- 53:45True.
- 53:46First healthy off season.
- 53:47Yep.
- 53:48So to say that Kyler is better than the quarterback that JJ McCarthy was last year, I
- 53:53think that's evident.
- 53:54Is he going to be better than the JJ McCarthy that shows up in camp this year with a year of
- 54:00experience under his belt with a healthy off season?
- 54:04And and and what I liked about the move, one, you got him cheap.
- 54:07Right?
- 54:08Right.
- 54:08You can't you can't fault them for the regardless of who the quarterback is, to to get
- 54:15a guy of that athletic profile for a million bucks.
- 54:19Right?
- 54:20Like, pretty incredible situation.
- 54:23Now Kyler comes here and signs because he believes that he has an opportunity to start.
- 54:27I think they're doing right by not announcing him as the starter, although everyone is
- 54:32assuming he will be.
- 54:33What I'm interested to see is even if he does start the year as the starter, how
- 54:37long is that?
- 54:38I mean, it is.
- 54:38What is JJ McCarthy gonna show us in camp?
- 54:41And then leading up to that, and what is he gonna show the coaching staff running the scout
- 54:45team in that QB two spot, which he never really got to do.
- 54:50Right?
- 54:51Because he was injured early on in that rookie season that he he didn't get to
- 54:56show that.
- 54:57Injured in a preseason game?
- 55:00Yeah.
- 55:01Yeah.
- 55:01That was, the first preseason game against Oakland?
- 55:05I think it was the first or second preseason game, his rookie, he got hurt.
- 55:09Okay.
- 55:10Here's my question, though, to you guys as far as JJ McCarthy goes.
- 55:15Yes.
- 55:15He has work to put in physically, but I also think mentality wise and maturity wise, he's
- 55:21got a lot of work to put in because I don't wanna and excuse my language, but I don't wanna
- 55:26see any more of this fucking nine shit.
- 55:29Like, get in there.
- 55:31Get in the playbook.
- 55:33And the only nine I should be seeing is your ass across the pylon or throwing dart.
- 55:40I Yes.
- 55:41You know, Paul, I'm with you.
- 55:42I don't I don't like the I don't like the whole nine thing.
- 55:48I mean, because you're a rookie.
- 55:49You haven't earned a big thing yet.
- 55:51Right now.
- 55:52Yeah.
- 55:53Just a kid from Michigan who won a national championship.
- 55:56Good for you.
- 55:57You go to a blue blood school that paid all that pays just as much as payroll.
- 56:02It's almost these NFL schools do to beat up on the little ones.
- 56:06Great.
- 56:06You are now with the competition.
- 56:10These guys will literally eat you because it is in their contracts and incentives to sack you
- 56:17as many times as possible.
- 56:19Yep.
- 56:20Past deflection.
- 56:21I I I I'm just I'm with you on that.
- 56:24I the I don't know that he ever backed down from any of that.
- 56:27You know?
- 56:28No.
- 56:28He's never done.
- 56:29No.
- 56:29He He
- 56:30did not got back in down.
- 56:31Were the errant throws, you know, the the sailed throws that are in there for whatever
- 56:38reason.
- 56:38Now I don't know I don't know how that happens because some of them were awful.
- 56:41Right?
- 56:42There there's no defending some of the ones that went
- 56:44I I think a lot of It's 20 lot of
- 56:47the pride
- 56:47to in
- 56:48JJ's head.
- 56:49No.
- 56:50And I think pride is on to something that, you know, it wasn't the fact that he wasn't making
- 56:55the throws.
- 56:56He was probably just anticipating too quick.
- 56:58I mean, there was times I was watching the game and, you know, I kept hearing that the
- 57:03quarterback the play up here is faster.
- 57:06It just seemed like you could see that with the way McCarthy acting.
- 57:09Like, he was anticipating something that did happen, and that's why he threw it quick.
- 57:14Later in the season, the bears no.
- 57:17Not the bears game.
- 57:20I'm trying to think of the
- 57:21game made him look stupid.
- 57:23No.
- 57:23There's another game later in the season where he just looked phenomenal, and everything he
- 57:27did is just like, okay.
- 57:28We got something here.
- 57:29Let him learn.
- 57:30That game in Lambo that you're talking about, Pods, they made KOC look stupid because that
- 57:36first half, they were running the ball, and then you did the tight end sneak tag.
- 57:40I remember that game vividly.
- 57:42KOC shit the bed.
- 57:44And then Gabe Gabe put the offensive line.
- 57:46Ryan Kelly got run over by it was horrible, man.
- 57:52It was so bad.
- 57:53Miles
- 57:53Garrett.
- 57:53Right?
- 57:54That's the that's the one that
- 57:55got the other Is this the lightest game I'm thinking of, like, this season where McCracken
- 57:59had a pretty good game, and he actually looked like he knew what he was doing?
- 58:03I think
- 58:03I don't know if I think it was just trying to keep our playoffs game of the year.
- 58:08To be perfectly honest, that Sunday night game in Dallas, he looked like an NFL quarterback.
- 58:13Maybe it was Dallas.
- 58:14Maybe it was Dallas I was thinking about.
- 58:15Where he had that stiff arm and he got out of off the line, got the guy's face.
- 58:19And
- 58:20That was the one where he brought it in on the QB the fame.
- 58:22Right?
- 58:23And he and he walked in on the the QB keeper and
- 58:26And and did the dirty
- 58:28I think physically, he has the tools.
- 58:30Like you said, Pods, it's some maturity in there.
- 58:32Don't know if he's on the same lane for Lee.
- 58:35On that game because he had a great game in Dallas.
- 58:38But we also have to realize that Dallas was the twenty ninth ranked defense last year.
- 58:42Yep.
- 58:43They were terrible.
- 58:44They tried to win their
- 58:46defense.
- 58:46Yeah.
- 58:47They bun ass.
- 58:48Yep.
- 58:49Yeah.
- 58:49They were boning.
- 58:50Everybody thought that Dallas is gonna go heavy defense early, you know, and maybe make some
- 58:56moves
- 58:56and stuff.
- 58:56Thing for me when it comes to Minnesota.
- 58:59Because, like, look, I have my AFC team.
- 59:01I love the Chiefs.
- 59:02I'm born and blood.
- 59:03You guys know this.
- 59:05But in the NFC, I've always watched the Vikings.
- 59:08Mhmm.
- 59:09Because, you know, I liked, you know, for a while, my favorite rivalry was to watch the
- 59:15Vikings and the Packers.
- 59:16Like, it got nasty with those two teams, and I loved it.
- 59:21Mhmm.
- 59:21You know?
- 59:22I don't see that grit from the offense.
- 59:25Like, I don't see that 2,009, you know, pushing people back, owning them on the line.
- 59:34Like, we have that defense now on the Vikings where we can succeed and give our offense more
- 59:40opportunities.
- 59:41Now we need to get some boys in there.
- 59:43We're gonna punish in the trenches.
- 59:45I'm hoping that the new back that came in can really pop off some explosive plays, whether
- 59:50that's pulling and pushing to edges and getting him around those edges, whether it's counters,
- 59:56half back draws, whatever it is.
- 59:59Last year last year was a lot of injuries along that offensive line, but I all I I ultimately
- 1:00:04think that it's an offensive philosophy that we hope is changing.
- 1:00:08I kinda mentioned off the top that there's been some coaching changes and things that you feel
- 1:00:12like are signaling a a return to a little bit tougher, you know, not necessarily full blown
- 1:00:20smash mouth black and blue division football, but to having a strong, you know, power running
- 1:00:26game
- 1:00:26to complement the difference that you have on the outside.
- 1:00:29Up the passing game.
- 1:00:30Mhmm.
- 1:00:31Like, even if it's just shallow crossers.
- 1:00:33I mean, if all you do is throw the ball here.
- 1:00:37I'm a I'm a do this comparison.
- 1:00:39And, coach, you'll see where I'm going with this.
- 1:00:41Mhmm.
- 1:00:41I feel like if you're gonna throw the ball 30 to 40 times, it's the equivalent of just
- 1:00:47jacking up 30 threes a game.
- 1:00:49Yeah.
- 1:00:50Yeah.
- 1:00:50NBA game.
- 1:00:52If you live by the play action and the deep pass and that's all you're doing, you're gonna
- 1:00:57get figured out by the end of the first quarter, and then you're not gonna get away
- 1:01:01with anything else even if you try bubble screens and all this.
- 1:01:04And what it tells me too is when you have to pass the ball that much, you are telling that
- 1:01:09DC, oh, they can't run the fucking ball.
- 1:01:11Send everyone.
- 1:01:12Yep.
- 1:01:14Like, how many times did JJ McCarthy get hit after the first quarter?
- 1:01:20I wanna know that stat.
- 1:01:22How bad was it after the first fifteen minutes?
- 1:01:25How many pressures?
- 1:01:26How many dropbacks did he You're lucky that he's built the way that he is, and he is as
- 1:01:32athletic as he is because last year could have gone worse.
- 1:01:36Look at Carson Wentz.
- 1:01:37Right?
- 1:01:38Like, Carson Wentz got completely destroyed.
- 1:01:41Abolished.
- 1:01:42Right.
- 1:01:42Yeah.
- 1:01:42Destroyed.
- 1:01:43So, you know, I I I think it's easy to blame the young quarterback and and to bail on a
- 1:01:49young man.
- 1:01:50I don't think the Vikings are totally out on him.
- 1:01:52I think if they were, you would have seen them just move him for moving him's sake around the
- 1:01:57draft this year.
- 1:01:59Think they wanna see what he can do.
- 1:02:02I think they wanna see him in training camp.
- 1:02:03What can you do in an off season, a healthy off season?
- 1:02:06Show us what you have in training camp.
- 1:02:08You know, they're not yes.
- 1:02:10They're kind of, you know, calling it a a competition a little bit out there.
- 1:02:13I don't know how many people believe that, but I think you're gonna see, what you have in the
- 1:02:20young man this year.
- 1:02:21If he comes out and training camp looks trash, then you have to start addressing your future
- 1:02:29at the quarterback position because I don't believe that Kyler is the answer long term
- 1:02:34Bubba.
- 1:02:34Either.
- 1:02:35I have to have to say this too.
- 1:02:38You have to start questioning the coach at this point too because isn't he supposed to be a
- 1:02:42quarterback whisperer?
- 1:02:43Hey.
- 1:02:43We've been doing this.
- 1:02:44Quarterbacks he's had has done nothing.
- 1:02:46No gas service on that.
- 1:02:48Don't think McConnell's not here because he would definitely go off on that.
- 1:02:53I'm not really confident in the Kyler Murray trade, but we got him for good trade signing.
- 1:02:59But we got him for good value.
- 1:03:01We got him for the vet minimum.
- 1:03:02And and it was it was more of an insurance policy because, I mean, McCarthy couldn't get
- 1:03:09the ball to eighteen.
- 1:03:10And if we heat if eighteen has another year like last year, we're not gonna have 18.
- 1:03:16Yeah.
- 1:03:17So I
- 1:03:18Also, inside of that, you don't have any other real weapons.
- 1:03:22Hockinson, a major down year.
- 1:03:25Addison, a major down year.
- 1:03:27Your other you know, your best target was Jalen Dues no longer with the team.
- 1:03:33Right?
- 1:03:33Speedy out there.
- 1:03:35You didn't get a chance to work with Jefferson in training camp because he was hurt or nursing
- 1:03:42a hamstring.
- 1:03:43Right?
- 1:03:43So and and it's really nice to hear that McCarthy and Jefferson have been getting
- 1:03:48together this off season.
- 1:03:49And even, you know, Jets, you know, alluded to it.
- 1:03:54Like, you gotta get used to seeing it come off his hand and expecting that ball and catching
- 1:03:59the ball off of someone.
- 1:04:00It's not always, yes, it it hits the game.
- 1:04:03It's it's throw and catch, but, you know, the the kids got some pop on it, and maybe it looks
- 1:04:09a little bit different.
- 1:04:10I I guarantee you it flies a lot different than a Kirk Cousins lollipop does.
- 1:04:16But let me tell you this too, dude.
- 1:04:18Like, I don't wanna see Justin Jefferson end up in a situation like he hopped in Texas where
- 1:04:25he's got a new quarterback every year.
- 1:04:29Yeah.
- 1:04:30I know.
- 1:04:30Like, can you imagine just for a second and this is all fantasy because in a perfect world,
- 1:04:37in a logical world, this would happen, but it won't.
- 1:04:40They need to sign Juwan Jennings, whatever it takes to get another slot guy.
- 1:04:44We need that guy in the slot to open up the underneath route.
- 1:04:47What I've been saying is that I like the Jennings because you bump Jennings outside and
- 1:04:54you run Addison.
- 1:04:55Then you have three guys that can you have three guys that you could mix and match.
- 1:04:59Right?
- 1:05:00You and everybody can be coming in and playing all three positions.
- 1:05:03And I think more of that is what you need, not having guys that are specifically into one
- 1:05:08role.
- 1:05:09You wanna be so versatile with those three receivers, especially if you're gonna play them
- 1:05:14all the time that you could be motioning them in and out and lining all three of them up kind
- 1:05:19of wherever, and you have the brains and the route running.
- 1:05:23I yeah.
- 1:05:24At least with Jefferson, I you know, Addison could probably do it, but let let
- 1:05:28Addison could definitely do
- 1:05:30guy and run it out there.
- 1:05:32And he just needs to catch the damn ball, man.
- 1:05:34I I I hope that his his immaturity is behind him at this point, and we can get a productive
- 1:05:40season out of him whether that's to let they did sign him to the fifth year option.
- 1:05:45I know that doesn't necessarily mean that he wouldn't This
- 1:05:47is a proven year.
- 1:05:48Candidate this season.
- 1:05:49That's a business move because it adds value to the contract that he's on.
- 1:05:54Uh-huh.
- 1:05:54Well and like Paz just said, you know, that fifth year option, this is a perfect year for
- 1:05:59him because, you know, if
- 1:06:01This is not a This isn't, oh, we still want you.
- 1:06:05This is
- 1:06:05Yeah.
- 1:06:06You, we still want you.
- 1:06:07Yeah.
- 1:06:07And if he puts up good numbers and people are almost like, well, do the Vikings really want
- 1:06:11him?
- 1:06:12Let's see what we can offer him.
- 1:06:13And, you know, so I mean, it's one of those things where, yeah, it's a proven year for him.
- 1:06:18I mean, on and off the field.
- 1:06:20Yeah.
- 1:06:20If he does if he does any more stupid shit, I mean, it's just gonna give us leverage.
- 1:06:26You know?
- 1:06:27Judd
- 1:06:27on on Purple Daily last week was like, you know, mister Addison, I think, just needs to
- 1:06:35stay home this summer.
- 1:06:37Like, just just stay at your house.
- 1:06:39Don't do anything stupid.
- 1:06:41You have an opportunity.
- 1:06:43You are still in the league, but you're getting to a point where teams just don't wanna take
- 1:06:48flyers on these guys that are problems.
- 1:06:49The talent that is coming out of the college ranks now, guys guys like that are getting to
- 1:06:55be a dime a dozen, and you got a really deep draft next year.
- 1:06:59Right?
- 1:06:59Well, and that's and that's another thing I've been saying too is add the Vikings and acid
- 1:07:04need to get him you know, I I hate to say that an adult needs a mentor, but he needs somebody
- 1:07:10like a Moss and a Carter to kind of be his wing guy or his, you know Moss.
- 1:07:17Moss.
- 1:07:17Carter?
- 1:07:18No.
- 1:07:19Carter made more bad decisions off the field than Moss ever did.
- 1:07:23Well, I don't know.
- 1:07:24But
- 1:07:24what you need, though, is someone who walked that walk to to come in and say, hey, man.
- 1:07:30Like, I've been there, done that.
- 1:07:32And once I pulled my head out of my ass, I became one of the most respected men in the
- 1:07:36league.
- 1:07:36Right.
- 1:07:37Check out my gold jacket.
- 1:07:39But
- 1:07:41I mean,
- 1:07:41I got to shake man's hand and say it.
- 1:07:43I mean, it was pretty incredible.
- 1:07:45I don't know, Pods, if I've told you about my experience at the PGA event I was at last year
- 1:07:50getting to interview Chris Carter and Ronda Barber, but pretty incredible, man.
- 1:07:55And sir Nick Faldo.
- 1:07:57Yeah.
- 1:07:57Pretty incredible.
- 1:07:58Set up.
- 1:08:01It it'll be, on a long list of screw ups of my life.
- 1:08:05Don't you worry, buddy.
- 1:08:06It won't be the last ones.
- 1:08:07Don't you worry, buddy.
- 1:08:09Coach, I got one more thing for you.
- 1:08:11Yes, sir.
- 1:08:11And for Bubba and Dee.
- 1:08:13Look.
- 1:08:14You wanna know the main reason I don't like the Kyler Murray signing?
- 1:08:17Let's hear it.
- 1:08:18I don't like it for JJ McCarthy because, look, I I think McCarthy is not the guy, but I want
- 1:08:24to see I would love to be proven wrong and him show me he is the guy.
- 1:08:29Uh-huh.
- 1:08:30But I don't think bringing in Kyler Murray is gonna give him that opportunity to be the guy
- 1:08:34because Kyler Murray is not a good quarterback.
- 1:08:37I'm sorry.
- 1:08:38He's just not.
- 1:08:40And I don't feel like he's the appropriate mentor with how he already approaches the game
- 1:08:46and is immature, and I definitely don't feel like he's a bridge quarterback that could sit
- 1:08:50there.
- 1:08:50Like, I know this is gonna sound crazy.
- 1:08:52I would have rather you guys brought back Kirk Cousins.
- 1:08:55Yeah.
- 1:08:56Todd, you you got a great
- 1:08:57way too much money.
- 1:08:59But do you feel like on that on that side, do you feel like that's why they were really
- 1:09:03adamant about getting Carson Wentz back on this team and in that QB room because you realize
- 1:09:09that Kyler
- 1:09:11Yeah.
- 1:09:11He was a major
- 1:09:12pressure point.
- 1:09:13Right?
- 1:09:13Kyler is an athletic profile that you could because, like, at no point last year was JJ
- 1:09:18McCarthy worried about Max Brosmer taking his job or Carson Wentz for that matter minus an
- 1:09:23injury.
- 1:09:24Right?
- 1:09:24And they literally trotted Carson out there until his arm fell off before they were forced
- 1:09:29to kind of either, you know, wait for JJ to get healthy or run Brosmer out.
- 1:09:33Yeah.
- 1:09:34So if I if I'm if I'm JJ, you know, and okay.
- 1:09:39Everybody's don't think I'm the guy.
- 1:09:41They bring in Kyler Murray.
- 1:09:43Okay.
- 1:09:43Now I just got demoted in my eyes because you brought in somebody that most likely will be
- 1:09:49named the starter game one of the preseason.
- 1:09:52Now I'm gonna take that motivation.
- 1:09:54I mean, that's what Kyle or that's what JJ has to do is take this as motivation that, okay.
- 1:10:00You're not coming in and taking my job that easy.
- 1:10:02I'm gonna put up the biggest fight that I can to keep my job, and I'm gonna make you number
- 1:10:07two, you know, unless it's an indie.
- 1:10:09I hope you're right.
- 1:10:10And I hope you're I hope I'm too.
- 1:10:11Being number two.
- 1:10:12Straight up, I mean, at that point, you know, does he have that dog in him?
- 1:10:17Like, if he really believes he's nine, let's see it pop out.
- 1:10:21Let's see you compete
- 1:10:22with the dog.
- 1:10:23To believe that he's the one.
- 1:10:24I mean, we don't need to believe he's nine.
- 1:10:26We do have to believe that he's the one.
- 1:10:29You know what?
- 1:10:29Do you know how many greats have worn nines?
- 1:10:33In my opinion, two.
- 1:10:36And they are tough to live up to.
- 1:10:38Coach, who's the first one?
- 1:10:39Baltimore, Tennessee.
- 1:10:42Steve McNair.
- 1:10:44Steve Aaron McNair.
- 1:10:46Oh my god.
- 1:10:47Yes.
- 1:10:48I had I had
- 1:10:48to think because I was thinking McNair and somebody else.
- 1:10:51You said when you said Baltimore,
- 1:10:53Tennessee is, like, off.
- 1:10:55What?
- 1:10:55In my opinion, the greatest player to wear the number nine and the greatest player to, like,
- 1:11:04ever sling the football that I've And seen do I love Mahomes, but I'm not even talking about
- 1:11:12accolades.
- 1:11:12Drew Brees was the best quarterback I've ever seen.
- 1:11:16Yeah.
- 1:11:17Man, could just
- 1:11:19he was he's the
- 1:11:20best arm talent I've ever seen when he played for the chargers and then what he did with the
- 1:11:24Saints.
- 1:11:25At five nine.
- 1:11:26The greatest player to wear nine.
- 1:11:28Yeah.
- 1:11:29I agree with that.
- 1:11:30You know, we're also talking about him playing with a a a elite offensive mind in Sean Payton.
- 1:11:39The way that they designed that offense to kind of push everything to the outside to open up
- 1:11:44that middle of the field so he could see.
- 1:11:46I don't know that KOC has that.
- 1:11:47I don't know that there's anything in the playbook No.
- 1:11:50That is KOC needs
- 1:11:52an offensive coordinator.
- 1:11:54Well, he has one.
- 1:11:56I don't I think you I think it's opposite.
- 1:11:58I think he needs an offensive coordinator.
- 1:12:01I think he is a good head coach.
- 1:12:03I think he has control of the room.
- 1:12:05He is a leader of men inside of that.
- 1:12:08We watch a lot of his pressers and a lot of his other things.
- 1:12:11Is he a little arrogant?
- 1:12:12Sure.
- 1:12:12Yes.
- 1:12:13I think he gets I think he's so arrogant he gets in his own way as a play caller because he
- 1:12:17wants to be the quarterback.
- 1:12:19That's what I've always kinda stated
- 1:12:20in You just kinda nailed it with the saints, you know, created an offensive brief since
- 1:12:26driving.
- 1:12:27That is something the Vikings need to do.
- 1:12:29They have to tailor their office around what the quarterback can do.
- 1:12:35I mean
- 1:12:36I mean, damn.
- 1:12:37Look at what he did for Bill Nix this year.
- 1:12:38And we and we still need to, you know, get all bets aligned.
- 1:12:42That's right.
- 1:12:43Yeah.
- 1:12:43So, I mean, that's the whole thing is, you know, the the coaches in general I mean, coach,
- 1:12:49you could you could say that if you got a guy that, you know, can't throw the ball deep,
- 1:12:54you're not gonna design a lot of deep balls.
- 1:12:56You're gonna
- 1:12:57Dink and dunk.
- 1:12:58Make them short.
- 1:12:58I mean, you're gonna run a little bit more and do it short.
- 1:13:01You know?
- 1:13:02So, I mean, that's something that the coaching has to do is they gotta build their team around
- 1:13:06the talent they have and not
- 1:13:08See, but that's where, KOC and, you know, him being so arrogant, you know, instead of trying
- 1:13:14to tailor it to the quarterback, he's like, no.
- 1:13:17You're gonna learn it this way, my way, and, know, it's not working.
- 1:13:22Simplify the playbook.
- 1:13:25So that that too because I don't know
- 1:13:27if there needs to be a simple play.
- 1:13:28He just has to he just has to build playbook to fit who's ever gonna be the quarterback.
- 1:13:33Do you guys remember talking about it, probably, like, week seven, week eight,
- 1:13:38something like that?
- 1:13:39But all the false start penalties that we had
- 1:13:42I was at that game.
- 1:13:43Or or the timeouts because we couldn't get the play call.
- 1:13:46It was atrocious, dude.
- 1:13:48No.
- 1:13:48But that was the first that was the first home game, wasn't it?
- 1:13:51I wasn't sure.
- 1:13:52Won that game.
- 1:13:53Wasn't that the first home game?
- 1:13:55Yes.
- 1:13:56No.
- 1:13:57No.
- 1:13:57It was They
- 1:13:57it was after a long stretch.
- 1:13:59It it was when they came home from the
- 1:14:01Europe trip.
- 1:14:02Mhmm.
- 1:14:03They
- 1:14:03had been gone for a while and came back.
- 1:14:05It was veteran appreciation.
- 1:14:07It was everything, man.
- 1:14:08I was I was there.
- 1:14:10It was so god awful to try and watch.
- 1:14:12Like, just couldn't get anything going.
- 1:14:14It was brutal.
- 1:14:14When you have issues like that and you're playing worse than a division two college team,
- 1:14:22you know you've dressed up the playbook too much.
- 1:14:24Like, if you have your offensive linemen jumping off sides or your tight ends on
- 1:14:29receivers jumping off sides like that, it's because the guys aren't around you.
- 1:14:34They're not they're not getting it.
- 1:14:36You need to simplify it for these kids.
- 1:14:38Yeah.
- 1:14:38And it was and it was everybody.
- 1:14:40It was Jay it was Jefferson too.
- 1:14:42No.
- 1:14:43Was jumping off sides.
- 1:14:44Yeah.
- 1:14:44It was it was weird.
- 1:14:45And I don't know that it was, you know, it was McCarthy playing, and I don't know that the
- 1:14:50cadence was that much different between what Carson had been doing.
- 1:14:53And then going back to me, that that probably shouldn't be an issue.
- 1:14:56You don't you definitely don't want it to be an issue.
- 1:14:59I know it can be, but they were at home.
- 1:15:01It's not like you were doing this on the road.
- 1:15:02You could hear a pin drop in that freaking stadium, man, and it was just like, what?
- 1:15:07That's embarrassing.
- 1:15:08Nine nine false start penalties.
- 1:15:10It was bananas.
- 1:15:12Was absolute bananas.
- 1:15:13Tough to watch.
- 1:15:14Backwards.
- 1:15:15Yeah.
- 1:15:15There was eight five eight false starts against the Ravens November yeah.
- 1:15:19In November, that game.
- 1:15:22Coach, Bubba, the there is one thing I need to know for the Vikings.
- 1:15:26And let's just be honest.
- 1:15:29Okay?
- 1:15:31Say we bring in Ja'Won Jennings this year.
- 1:15:35Do you start looking potentially if the season starts to go sideways because of court because
- 1:15:41I'm telling you, the only reason this season's gonna go sideways, if it does, is quarterback
- 1:15:46play.
- 1:15:47Yeah.
- 1:15:47And if you can run the ball, that's it.
- 1:15:49That's the only because there's nothing that Flores is going you know, Flores is gonna give
- 1:15:54you the opportunity to win.
- 1:15:55Like, if you get decent quarterback play from these guys, you can easily go eleven and six.
- 1:16:01Just decent.
- 1:16:03Middle of the road.
- 1:16:05We you we need to get that guy.
- 1:16:09So who is that guy?
- 1:16:10Who are some free agent quarterbacks coming up?
- 1:16:13Or who's the draft class next year is supposed to be deep.
- 1:16:16Who do you want?
- 1:16:17Who is the guy for this offense, though?
- 1:16:19Because that's the other thing I need to know is, like, who is the quarterback?
- 1:16:24Like, what quarterback do you want?
- 1:16:26You have a pocket passer.
- 1:16:28You have an uber athletic guy.
- 1:16:30Who do you want, and who does that playbook for?
- 1:16:33I'll deflate this to Bubba and Big B because I'm not even gonna look for this year.
- 1:16:41Yeah.
- 1:16:41I mean, you gotta look at this year.
- 1:16:44Now if it does go sideways and we can't get the quarterback play, I honestly I hate to say it
- 1:16:51because we need assets, but maybe you'd start looking at because JJ is not gonna Jefferson's
- 1:16:56not going to wanna go through another year if it happens to get this year.
- 1:17:00Like, if this season goes bad, Jay will.
- 1:17:04Well, yeah.
- 1:17:05So then do you, you know, throw your chips in the hat and do a Mike Dicker, and you move up
- 1:17:13to get Manny and have him be your franchise to kind of burn it down?
- 1:17:17I don't I don't I'm not full on it, but
- 1:17:21And then you're back to square one with the rookie quarterback.
- 1:17:24Well, that's what I'm saying.
- 1:17:25Yo.
- 1:17:25Your best case scenario right now is that you see a massive jump from JJ McCarthy, and he is
- 1:17:32your quarterback of the future.
- 1:17:33Like, that is best case scenario.
- 1:17:35I think the Vikings, if you go in the draft, you try to get Dante Moore.
- 1:17:40But Yeah.
- 1:17:43Mean, I mean, I'm I'm a coach, so we can't look past this year.
- 1:17:46We have to look at what we got this year.
- 1:17:48Right.
- 1:17:48Well, in any
- 1:17:49of these But maybe we start talking about that
- 1:17:51In college.
- 1:17:52You know, mid season or something if it does go sideways.
- 1:17:55Is there any veteran quarterbacks right now who were, like, on one year deals, two year deals
- 1:18:01that you could potentially bring in this season?
- 1:18:05How many do they think something about that Okay.
- 1:18:08Okay.
- 1:18:08How that would even be in that conversation.
- 1:18:11Right?
- 1:18:11That you
- 1:18:12Well, let's see here.
- 1:18:12That are
- 1:18:13no doubt want to, one, leave their team and, two, are are poised to make this team better.
- 1:18:22Damn would it be good if you found another Sam Darnold.
- 1:18:27Yeah.
- 1:18:27I don't listen.
- 1:18:28I was like a sturdy bear.
- 1:18:29The Sam Darnold conversation to me is a moot point.
- 1:18:33If you were to run the damn ball against the Rams, you'd probably win that game.
- 1:18:37Run the ball, which once again brings us back to the coach, and we we kinda beat that dead
- 1:18:43dead horse even when they were winning five in a row at the end of the year be mostly because
- 1:18:49you got to running the ball, controlling the clock, going out there.
- 1:18:53What was that one drive they had that was, like, eleven minutes or something, right, at
- 1:18:56the end of the year?
- 1:18:57Oh, yeah.
- 1:18:57Eleven minutes and 87 yards.
- 1:19:00That was legit.
- 1:19:02Like I feel like know that KOC is on the sideline just, like, with puke.
- 1:19:07He's got as he's calling, run, run.
- 1:19:10So right now, looking at the current free agent crop, you got Rogers, Wilson, Cooper Rush,
- 1:19:20Jimmy g, Teddy Bridgewater, Brett Ripken, and three guys I don't even know.
- 1:19:26Oh my god.
- 1:19:27No more than
- 1:19:28next year's free agent class.
- 1:19:30No.
- 1:19:31That's that's right now.
- 1:19:33What about next year?
- 1:19:34Let's see here, dude.
- 1:19:37If you look at
- 1:19:37it this year, you gotta look at year's because these are also potential people who could be
- 1:19:41traded.
- 1:19:42You know who I think
- 1:19:43would be the perfect quarterback for
- 1:19:44the Vikings offense, but you're never
- 1:19:47gonna get him because he's on under contract?
- 1:19:49I think Baker Mayfield would thrive in this offense.
- 1:19:52I yeah.
- 1:19:53Well, Baker Baker is gonna retire a a buck.
- 1:19:56He's not gonna to him.
- 1:19:57Right.
- 1:19:57But speaking of it, so next year, right now available, Kyler Murray, Deshaun Watson,
- 1:20:04Stafford, Baker Mayfield, Justin Fields, Anthony Richardson, David Mills, Marcus
- 1:20:12Mariota.
- 1:20:15Let's see.
- 1:20:16Anybody else?
- 1:20:17Mac Jones is out there for next year.
- 1:20:19Mac Jones?
- 1:20:20You gotta imagine Mac Jones is gonna get a deal.
- 1:20:24He didn't get
- 1:20:25he didn't end up getting traded then.
- 1:20:27Right?
- 1:20:27No.
- 1:20:28Yeah.
- 1:20:28He's he'll be 28 next year.
- 1:20:31Right.
- 1:20:31Somebody's gonna lose their quarterback early season.
- 1:20:34Mac Jones probably gets traded early season and gets an extension.
- 1:20:39The Matthew Stafford one
- 1:20:40Matt Stafford.
- 1:20:41It would intrigue me because there's history between him and KOC.
- 1:20:46Mhmm.
- 1:20:46If it
- 1:20:46totally includes even if it doesn't Eight forty?
- 1:20:49See them spending money
- 1:20:50How old was here.
- 1:20:52He just won MVP at 39.
- 1:20:54Well, no.
- 1:20:55No.
- 1:20:55And I get that.
- 1:20:56Eighteen years of the league at 40.
- 1:21:00How old was Favre when we got him?
- 1:21:0240.
- 1:21:03He was at
- 1:21:0340.
- 1:21:04Yeah.
- 1:21:04I I get it, coach.
- 1:21:06I I mean but, again, look at but but, again, look at Favre but look at Favre coming in.
- 1:21:11Look at who our offensive line was and how good he was.
- 1:21:15I mean
- 1:21:15That's true too.
- 1:21:16So so, mean, again, we're going back to the offensive line play.
- 1:21:20My personal choice in the Stafford, but that's the one that's like there's enough smoke there
- 1:21:27and there's enough history between them to consider that as, like, your target if you're
- 1:21:33looking down that road.
- 1:21:35It because, ultimately, this coaching staff is only signed through the 2028 season.
- 1:21:44Right?
- 1:21:45They got matching deals to get them through to where everything expires together.
- 1:21:49So, you know, they're looking at it.
- 1:21:51And if things don't go and you have another season where it's double digit and you have an
- 1:21:56early exit and everybody's like, well, Kyler didn't quite live up to it, and JJ's not the
- 1:22:03guy.
- 1:22:03And you're willing if you're willing to give KOC one more shot, to me, that's the move.
- 1:22:09It is probably Stafford to the guy has all the things because you still have all
- 1:22:14the weapons.
- 1:22:15Right?
- 1:22:15Like I said, though, best case scenario for this Vikings team is that JJ proves he's the
- 1:22:21guy this year, shows you enough.
- 1:22:23You go out, maybe win a playoff game this year.
- 1:22:26You know, you don't make it all the way to the NFC championship game possibly.
- 1:22:29But winning a playoff game, even if it's in the wild card weekend and having something to hang
- 1:22:35your hat on, to me, that that's your best case scenario.
- 1:22:38And that's not your best scenario is Kyler goes out there, loses the first four games, KOC gets
- 1:22:45fucking fired.
- 1:22:47Four and I don't know if I wanna I don't even know if I
- 1:22:49want Stafford to go through that.
- 1:22:52It's especially if we don't have a good offensive line because what they did to Carson
- 1:22:59Wentz, someone in that organization needs to catch charge.
- 1:23:03What they would do to
- 1:23:04because that was brutal.
- 1:23:05Like it would look like Aaron Rodgers week one with the Jets.
- 1:23:08Well, and and the thing is too is, you know, if we do have a season that goes sideways, we
- 1:23:14gotta convince Jefferson to stay.
- 1:23:17And that one of
- 1:23:18those long term deal, though.
- 1:23:20It's not
- 1:23:20like his deal is up next year.
- 1:23:22He can No.
- 1:23:22No.
- 1:23:23But but again, you know, he starts he starts, you know, wanting out.
- 1:23:28I mean, you know, how about how productive is he gonna be?
- 1:23:31If Jefferson wants out, you're getting a first round pick for that man.
- 1:23:35Well, yeah.
- 1:23:36Yeah.
- 1:23:36We definitely are.
- 1:23:37If he wants out, then you're going, okay.
- 1:23:40Well, we're trying to get as far up in the first round as we can.
- 1:23:42You go get yourself a running Williams then.
- 1:23:45I
- 1:23:47don't know if that's necessarily true, Barber.
- 1:23:49I think if he makes
- 1:23:50the playoff and loses again, his job's safe.
- 1:23:53I think if they stumble out the gate, that he's more likely to lose his job.
- 1:23:57I don't think Here's what I gotta say.
- 1:23:59Well, I think if they make the playoffs and he loses first game, if it's a good competitive
- 1:24:04game, he doesn't get fired.
- 1:24:05But if it's a blowout, then you might be talking.
- 1:24:09I don't think the Wills would do it.
- 1:24:11I think it has to be bad early.
- 1:24:13Otherwise, he's
- 1:24:14I I I'm with you, Bubba.
- 1:24:15I think it has to be bad early for him, Bubba.
- 1:24:17Coach,
- 1:24:19b, I think if you want Jefferson to stay and I know you guys say he's gonna retire as a buck.
- 1:24:25I but if you offer the bag and you offer enough to him, I think if you go out there and get
- 1:24:31Baker, that would really probably make Jefferson happy, Addison happy.
- 1:24:36Any receiver really coming into the league or potential people looking to sign, that would
- 1:24:42make people extremely happy.
- 1:24:44Like, hey.
- 1:24:45You're our guy.
- 1:24:46Like, we want you look at our receivers.
- 1:24:48Would you rather be he just lost Mike Evans.
- 1:24:51No.
- 1:24:52What what would you consider the bag?
- 1:24:54Whoever for Baker with how he's turned his career around and what I think he's done on a
- 1:24:59mediocre bucks team that's done its best to not put talent around him, I would be willing to
- 1:25:06offer Baker four years, 250,000,000.
- 1:25:12Holy shit, dude.
- 1:25:14Damn.
- 1:25:15Oh.
- 1:25:16$60
- 1:25:17a year?
- 1:25:19Yeah.
- 1:25:19That's banan no.
- 1:25:21I'm not giving Baker Mayfield
- 1:25:22I'm not I I wouldn't even trade a third round pick for him.
- 1:25:27Alright.
- 1:25:27That's realistic.
- 1:25:28And that's if you that's the guarantee.
- 1:25:30That's like we're playing Madden, not smack flares.
- 1:25:32It's a realistic deal for Baker.
- 1:25:34Than Mahomes' deal.
- 1:25:35Mahomes is only getting 50.
- 1:25:37So
- 1:25:38right now, it's projected that when Baker comes a free agent next year, if he if he is, 33.3.
- 1:25:47That's what they're projecting, his average to be.
- 1:25:51Give him four years a 135,000,000.
- 1:25:56At at a 40
- 1:25:57That would be lower
- 1:25:58than 32?
- 1:25:59Yeah.
- 1:26:00That would be around that value.
- 1:26:02I don't know that I don't know that they have that money.
- 1:26:04I don't know what the cap projected out that far.
- 1:26:06I don't because there's a lot of money tied
- 1:26:08up to Jefferson.
- 1:26:09Gets bigger every year or something.
- 1:26:10Middle.
- 1:26:11Yeah.
- 1:26:11Down the road that it makes it tough.
- 1:26:14Like I said, best case scenario for the Vikings is still JJ is your guy even if he's behind
- 1:26:22Kyler for this entire season, that he's able to show you something behind the scenes, and
- 1:26:27you're trotting out a 23 year old quarterback in 2027 that has some experience under his
- 1:26:34belt.
- 1:26:34He also has that time that learning time back there Yeah.
- 1:26:39To show
- 1:26:40I'm convinced he's gonna be a benchwarmer, though, for the rest of his career.
- 1:26:43Well, I did that may be true as well.
- 1:26:45I did I think he's too athletically talented to
- 1:26:48to end up having record breaker for Mac Jones.
- 1:26:52So what was everybody's thought when, you know, Brock Purdy, mister irrelevant, got the call?
- 1:26:59Everybody didn't think he was gonna do good.
- 1:27:01You know, I mean, granted he's had a lot of weapons and a lot of office you know, good
- 1:27:05offensive line.
- 1:27:06But
- 1:27:06People who thought Brock wasn't gonna do good never watched him at Iowa State.
- 1:27:10Well, then why did he go last pick of the draft that year?
- 1:27:14I mean
- 1:27:14Because outside of, like, four or five teams in the NFL, the other 28 teams
- 1:27:22Already had a quarterback.
- 1:27:23Don't know how to draft quarterback.
- 1:27:25Maybe.
- 1:27:26But no.
- 1:27:27I I I mean, you know, McCarthy definitely has to prove it to the foundation himself that he's
- 1:27:34the guy.
- 1:27:35So this is you know, just like we're talking about KLC, this is making a breaker for
- 1:27:40McCarthy too.
- 1:27:41Mean Well, I feel like he won't have as as many distractions.
- 1:27:45I mean, right away at the beginning of the season.
- 1:27:47He got married and a kid.
- 1:27:48He got married, had the kid come in
- 1:27:51and Yeah.
- 1:27:51They just got married recently.
- 1:27:54So had the baby first and then just got prince.
- 1:27:56Yeah.
- 1:27:56And then married a different man.
- 1:27:59Yeah.
- 1:27:59I don't know.
- 1:28:00Maybe divorce him, take the kid, and have him kind of, like, look at Donchins.
- 1:28:04Wow.
- 1:28:05Damn.
- 1:28:07That's diabolical.
- 1:28:08Man.
- 1:28:09She's been with him through all of
- 1:28:14I'm sorry.
- 1:28:14That was too soon.
- 1:28:15But, hey,
- 1:28:16you can't deny after the things happened with Luca.
- 1:28:19I ain't worried about it.
- 1:28:20I'm trying not to hear
- 1:28:21you pretty good, man.
- 1:28:22Right.
- 1:28:23Right.
- 1:28:23Right.
- 1:28:24We've been on here for ninety minutes.
- 1:28:26It is my birthday tomorrow, so I I wanna thank you all for the gifts that are on their way.
- 1:28:32It's funny that I made sure you guys got gifts today.
- 1:28:35My cat just knocked my camera out.
- 1:28:37That's why
- 1:28:37I went to do that.
- 1:28:39She
- 1:28:40Hey, man.
- 1:28:41We enjoyed our gifts.
- 1:28:42Cool.
- 1:28:43Cozy, your vice had a stick.
- 1:28:45Me and Bea are twinning.
- 1:28:48Last thing I wanna say in regards to just football in general, this is as you guys know,
- 1:28:53I'm a Kansas City Chiefs fan.
- 1:28:54Right?
- 1:28:54So I just wanted to say that I'm really excited to see how Ernest Johnson plays.
- 1:29:01Like, that's like, the back out of Nebraska.
- 1:29:05Like, I I I wanna see this.
- 1:29:07Yeah.
- 1:29:08No.
- 1:29:08I'm I want I'm excited for every every rookie, honestly.
- 1:29:13Every player, you know, whether they're coming off an injury or a good year.
- 1:29:18Hey.
- 1:29:18That's okay, Barbara.
- 1:29:19Coach Yo.
- 1:29:20It is.
- 1:29:21Yo.
- 1:29:22Gotta go.
- 1:29:22Yep.
- 1:29:23Same
- 1:29:23here.
- 1:29:23Hanging out with guys.
- 1:29:25No problem.
- 1:29:26Have a great birthday.
- 1:29:28Coach, good luck with the cavalry.
- 1:29:31Be go get some swings in.
- 1:29:33Oh, yeah.
- 1:29:34Definitely.
- 1:29:35Let's get it.
- 1:29:36Happy birthday, Bubba.
- 1:29:37Have a great night, everyone.
- 1:29:38Talk to everybody later.
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