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"I AM THE GOVERNOR NOW" Somalia Conquers Minnesota and ICE Moves In | The Mark Driscoll Show | Ep 14 · The Mark Driscoll Show

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  Well howdy and welcome to the Mark Driscoll show.
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  Guys, we have a show for you today.
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  We get into everything from what happened in Minnesota Tyran to
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  Venezuela, to a pastor that committed an 8 year long
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  adultery and will be judged much harder, harsher than Trump.
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  And then we finish up with an only fans model.
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  So it is going to be an action-packed show for you.
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  You will not want to tune out at any point.
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  I said go get yourself some lights.
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  Big boy, go ahead out. Of the car, get out of the car.
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  Get out of the car. What a week.
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  It has been wild week Minnesota's and that's really
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  total lack of respect and honor for our.
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  Well, and a lack of leadership. So you've got Governor Tim Walz,
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  who was going to be vice president of the United States
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  of America, which is horrifying. You're seeing unprecedented
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  fraud, complete lack of leadership, and now you're
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  seeing dishonor, disregard, disrespect for law enforcement,
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  and lawful enforcement of laws. And so, America, we were this
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  close to having this man be second in command for the entire
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  country. What do you just not to get off
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  track, but what would America look like today?
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  Well, you've got Kamala Harris who was complicit in arguably
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  the greatest cover up in the history of the United States of
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  America. And that is the cognitive not
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  just decline, but complete inability of the commander in
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  chief of the United States of America and went on the record
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  repeatedly to defend his cognitive abilities, saying that
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  she works with him and you know, he's sharp and competent and
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  capable. Which honestly, if your if your
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  allegiance is to the United States of America, that is
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  damnable because you're defending your boss and you are
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  putting at risk your nation. That is a man who was in no
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  condition to be holding the office, let alone signing up for
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  four more years. You know I.
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  Mean, think about all the things that have happened in the last
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  12 months since Trump's been in. And I mean, there was threats of
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  nuclear war, the war in Israel, the war in Ukraine, the, I mean,
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  the trade war, the the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
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  I mean, Charlie Kirk would be in prison.
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  Yeah. Well, now you know that.
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  Well, now we know that Biden had other significant health issues
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  that had to have been covered up.
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  And so this is a man who couldn't do the job when he was
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  in office and today wouldn't be able to do the office.
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  And you know, perhaps it seems a little nefarious, but maybe
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  that's why she was excited for him to run again, knowing that
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  she would inherit the office and then she could run 2 times and
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  maybe she could be president for 11 or 12 years.
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  And so under her would be Tim Waltz.
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  In between the two of them, you would have the most pro
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  abortion, you know, ticket in the history of the United States
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  of America, supporting abortion up through birth.
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  Both of whom claiming to be Christians and both of whom were
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  part of very liberal, progressive pseudo Christian
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  denominations. And I think Tim Waltz was
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  Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.
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  And so you would have had a counterfeit Christianity pro
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  death and you would have had a massive deficit.
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  You would have DEI. And you're seeing the cost of
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  that with the Somali scandal in Minnesota.
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  In addition, you would be seeing transgenderism just taken to the
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  next level, mutilation of children, overturning of
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  parental rights, suppressing of religious freedom, which was
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  unprecedented during the Biden regime.
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  You had you had Catholics being arrested for praying silently
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  outside of abortion clinics. All of that would have been
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  taken to the next level. Yeah, it's wild.
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  And the conspiracy, the fraud, whatever you would call this,
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  like Somali daycare situation feels like a conspiracy, but
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  it's not. I mean, Tim Walz immediately is
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  withdrawing from the next race because he knows how bad it is.
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  Looks like it's $250 million stolen from child nutrition
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  programs through these nonprofits and potentially up to
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  9 billion in social services. But the investigation's ongoing.
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  But they were funding these other countries to come in and
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  take over America. So, yeah, with, with the sort of
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  the powder keg and, and there's multiple factors that are at
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  work in in Minneapolis and, and in Minnesota and Washington and
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  Oregon and certain states. There's these bright blue dots
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  like Minneapolis, Seattle and Portland where you have the
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  concentration of population. And then it's the rural areas
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  that tend to be conservative that are just so frustrated
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  because the politics is driven by the bright blue dots in the
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  urban cores. And so you get outside of those
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  areas and people are saying, and they're having the fun and deal
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  with the implications of the urban insanity.
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  But what you've got in Minnesota is you've got intersectionality
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  and cultural social Marxism playing out to its logical
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  conclusion. And so so you've got you've got
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  immigration and then you've got ICE coming in to deal with the
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  immigration that leads to this tension.
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  It's like a squeezing bison, a powder keg that then leads to
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  the unfortunate shooting of a woman that we'll get to this
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  week. And So what happens with the
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  illegal immigration? It's it's intersectionality.
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  Intersectionality is sort of the the score keeping on the social
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  Marxist, progressive democratic left.
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  Think of it this way, you get a point for every minority item
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  you are. So you're an illegal immigrant,
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  you get a point. You're non white, you get a
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  point. You're Muslim and not Christian,
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  you get a point. You're poor and not rich, you
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  get a point. English is not your primary
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  language, you get a point. So intersectionality, the more
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  points you get, the more oppressed you are.
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  The more oppressed you are, the more government goods and
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  services and resources as you get and the more you're like,
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  you know, a sacred cow in India and you just get to do whatever
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  you want and you're untouchable. And so with the Somalis, you've
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  got about 100,000 people that have come into largely in and
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  around Minneapolis and, and they are draining the social service
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  net. I, I made some notes here this
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  morning. 58% of those who are Somali, they do not speak
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  English well and so they have not assimilated into American
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  culture. 39% do not have a high school diploma. 89% are on
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  welfare, meaning they're coming into the culture and into the
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  community and then they're taking economically, but they
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  haven't contributed. No.
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  I mean, we're a nonprofit and our budget is smaller than most
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  of these daycares we're taking in for.
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  I mean, it's wild. It is wild.
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  Well, and in that too, let me get the stats and we'll come
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  back to then 86% are on Medicaid.
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  Only 28% of those who are native born in Minnesota are
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  comparatively on Medicaid. 20%, one in five of the able bodied
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  working age men are not employed and 1/2 of the kids, more than
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  1/2 of the children, minors are living in poverty in the Somali
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  community in Minnesota. And that is in comparison to
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  only 7.6% of those born within the state.
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  And So what you're seeing is people coming into the country
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  saying we tend to be Muslim. We're not going to speak your
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  language. We're not going to simulate into
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  your culture. We're not going to share your
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  values. What we are going to do is take
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  your resources. And what we're going to do is
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  we're actually going to steal from you.
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  But you can't ask for accountability or audits or
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  investigation because if you do, you're a racist.
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  And so this is how the left works.
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  They just keep calling you, you know, racist, sexist,
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  homophobic, chauvinistic, patriarchal.
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  They just name call you. And at the top of the, you know,
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  the progressive shame pyramid is racist.
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  Well, you can't ask, hey, can we look at your books?
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  Can we make sure that this is actually going to help people?
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  You're racist, you're racist, you're racist, you're racist.
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  And there's a certain amount of white suburban guilt
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  particularly evident among, you know, wine moms named Karen.
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  And they're just like, yeah, we don't want to be racist.
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  So we're just going to support all of this and defend all of
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  this. And, and what we're really,
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  really helps their causes, the church.
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  So churches that are committed to social justice and cultural
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  Marxism and denominations like the Southern Baptist Convention
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  and the Presbyterian Church in America that historically
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  supported slavery. You call them racist, they
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  surrender. They surrender because they,
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  they were racist. And so you call them racist.
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  They don't, they don't, it's, that's the trigger.
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  And So what happens now you've got 100,000 people and you have
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  massive corruption. And, and what we don't
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  understand is they don't think in national terms.
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  They think in terms of can and clan.
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  And so a Somali comes in, they're committed to their can,
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  they're committed to their clan. Meaning even if there is fraud,
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  they're going to fill out the paperwork and they're going to
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  defend their can and clan because they have no allegiance
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  to the United States of America. They don't see themselves an
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  American citizen. And now there is an
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  investigation. Are we sending money back to Al
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  Shabaab and terrorist organizations back in Somalia?
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  So not only is there fraud in America, are we supporting our
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  Islamic jihadist enemies overseas?
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  And just the mind melt for me is we were in the Eisenhower
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  building next to the White House, my wife Grace and I,
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  about a month ago. And we're meeting with members
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  of the Trump cabinet. I think it was Christine Gnome
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  came in and we were getting sort of debriefs and reports as part
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  of the National Faith Advisory Board.
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  And they told us that in addition to every dollar spent
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  in Minnesota, it was matched with federal dollars.
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  So if you're looking at Zelana, think about this like if there's
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  like a billion dollars in fraud from Minnesota, there's a
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  billion dollars in fraud from the federal government.
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  And so we have only begun, gosh, to shovel out the barn.
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  That's crazy. So it's do you think it's these
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  people taking advantage of somebody that is soft like Tim
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  Walls or do you think Tim Walls is praying on America and trying
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  to invite these people in? I think at the end of the day, I
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  think people are So if you're a Christian, you believe that
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  apart from Jesus Christ, people are sinners by nature and
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  choice, and that human depravity will prompt them to do evil.
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  And apart from the Holy Spirit, we're all capable of doing
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  tremendous evil, lying, stealing, killing, cheating.
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  And it doesn't matter if you're black or brown or yellow or
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  white or green or orange. And so it's not about the color
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  of your skin, it's about the nature of your soul.
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  And so just to say you can't say that someone who is non white is
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  capable of sin or evil makes you a racist as a Christian
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  character is supersedes race and nature of soul supersedes ethnic
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  origin. And so the stupidity in all of
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  this is thinking that certain people, because they have
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  hypothetically been oppressed or their race or their gender has
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  been in a minority position, means that they're inherently
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  more wholly or morally superior. It denies everything that
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  Christianity says, and that is that we're all centers by nature
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  and choice. And it doesn't matter what your
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  race, doesn't matter what your gender, doesn't matter what your
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  ethnicity, that you need Jesus because of your sin nature, you
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  are capable of great evil. So when we when we lose sight of
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  the gospel, we lose sight of the foundational issue that people
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  are sinful. And unless we have government
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  that understands human sinfulness, we trust them, and
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  then they take advantage of us because that's what sinners do.
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  100% So let's go down to what about the shooting, The
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  shooting, was it a just shooting?
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  You know, the government, the courts will sort that out.
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  What? What is it?
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  Here's what we do. Now.
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  Here is a gal who is a lesbian, and she's a Black Lives Matter
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  supporter. She has a group that is opposed
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  to ICE and organizes protest against ICE in this country.
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  You have freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of
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  expression. You can show up and you can
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  protest. That's fine.
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  What you can't do is impede law enforcement, and that's what
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  she's doing. She had appeared at multiple ICE
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  raids seeking to impede law enforcement.
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  The reason that she can do that is because she's underemployed
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  or unemployed and her mother pays her rent and what she does.
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  There's a 3 minute video that is posted that shows that she takes
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  her Honda Pilot. She parks it in the center of
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  the street, blocking all the lanes of traffic and for three
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  minutes is honking on her horn while law enforcement is sort of
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  doing a sweep of the neighborhood.
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  Now, we don't know why. You could say this is horrible.
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  We don't know. Are there gang members there?
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  Is there criminal arrests? Have there been, you know, calls
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  of terrorism? I don't know why they're there,
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  but I'm not law enforcement. That's law enforcement's job.
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  And so she, and you could see it, you could see in the video,
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  people that are trying to exit the neighborhood are having to
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  drive up and around her car. And she what she's decided is
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  today I have authority over the neighborhood because I'm a wine
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  mom with a Honda Pilot. Yeah, I just, I'm trying to
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  understand what would come over a lady to do something like
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  this. Like I, I see a fire truck and
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  I'm like, oh crap. I need to pull over and respect
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  their duty. They're risking their lives for
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  me. These people that are, they're
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  protecting Americans and now Americans are attacking them.
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  Because, because this is like, what are those who call evil
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  good and good evil and light, darkness and darkness light.
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  I mean, you know, at the same time, we saw a shooting in
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  Portland and there was this eruption and they're like, oh,
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  they're trying to rock or whatever it is the, you know,
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  the the terrorist gang organization.
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  And it was a a gang member and a prostitute.
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  And everybody's like, well, yeah, probably shouldn't, you
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  know, say that was a bad thing. Yeah, you think.
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  And so, you know, in this one, it is sad anytime somebody gets
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  shot. It's a sad when children lose
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  their mother. And so we find no joy or
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  celebration in that. But at the same time, if there
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  is law enforcement and you are impeding law enforcement and
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  they tell you to stop and you drive your vehicle at them, case
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  law does say that now that vehicle can be considered a
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  deadly weapon. It's much more deadly than a
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  gun. Well, so now one of the reports
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  I heard, and again, you don't know if you can believe what's
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  online, there was a report that says the same officer had been
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  hit and drugged by a vehicle previously.
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  And so put yourself in his position.
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  If you have a gun pulled and somebody is driving at you, you
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  have a split second decision to make.
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  If it isn't true that he has been hit by a vehicle and drug,
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  you're like, I've been here before, I'm not doing this
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  again. Totally, Yeah.
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  And I mean humanize the ICE agents a little bit, I think.
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  They want to go home to their family.
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  I think that's what we're missing.
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  All these people are like, ice is awful.
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  Ice is a bunch of dads showing up to protect women and
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  children. Well, you know what the radical
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  weird thing is about the majority of Border Patrol?
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  They're Hispanic. They're bilingual.
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  They did it legally and now they want to protect what this year?
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  Yeah. And so at the end of the day,
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  though, this is where those who are in flaming passion and
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  emotion on the irrational and sometimes, you know, delusional
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  left. It's like, you know, you could
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  be sending people into harm's way with rhetoric.
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  But at the end of the day, it is perfectly fine to express
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  yourself. It is perfectly fine to protest.
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  But once you insert yourself into active moments of law,
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  investigation or activation, you're now impeding law
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  enforcement, and you have gone from exercising your
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  constitutional rights to committing a crime.
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  Yeah, I mean, I to, to think about attacking a police officer
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  or a Border Patrol agent or a nice agent, like I have
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  tremendous respect for what they're doing.
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  And I have a healthy fear of them, as I would assume you do
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  when a cop turns his lights on. You're like, oh, Yep.
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  Well, so like growing up simply with our kids, they would tell
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  you like if we were in a barbershop or we were out to
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  dinner, coffee or whatever, if there was anybody in a uniform,
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  I picked up the tab. And then our family would go
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  over on the way out and thank them.
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  And I would say, hey, these are the good guys.
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  We thank the good guys. And at the end of the day, do
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  you do you want to live in a world that is lawless anarchy?
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  And some people will say, well, the law made mistakes.
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  Well, human beings do. I would rather live in a place
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  that has rule of law than anarchy because sometimes law
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  will make mistakes, but anarchy is nothing but mistakes.
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  Yep, 100%. So what would you say in closing
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  on this topic? What?
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  What do we do about a place like Minneapolis?
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  Well, I mean, So what is going to happen in places like
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  Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland is #1 decent people are going to
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  leave. They're just going to pack up
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  and go. They're going to say the taxes
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  are high, Chicago, New York, the taxes are high.
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  The the safety and quality of life is low.
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  And if you, if you want to raise kids, you can't.
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  And for those who haven't lived in places like this, it would be
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  shocking to you. Like where we're from in
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  Seattle. There's a place underneath the
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  viaduct downtown. You drive along I-5, it's
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  called. It's called the Jungle.
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  It's where thousands of people live.
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  The cops will not go in. They've declared their own
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  mirror and they've named it their own city.
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  It is. It is literally, it is the
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  zombie apocalypse. It is the perch.
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  I've been there in years, but when we drove by with the kids,
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  I forgot about it. Like there's naked people
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  humping. There's somebody naked taking a
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  bath under a bucket. I kid you not, Landon on the
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  freeway, there's a naked dude high on meth on a stationary
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  exercise bike going 100 miles an hour on on the side of the
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  freeway and you're like. You could never raise kids
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  there. Yeah, You're like.
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  You know what? I don't want your son there.
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  No, I don't want my son there. You're like, I don't want me
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  there. Yeah, I don't want me there.
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  It's but, but you know, there are certain places in these
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  cities like right now in Dearborn, MI, there are places
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  in Seattle, there's places in Minneapolis, there's places in
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  Portland. The law enforcement won't even
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  go. There's certain blocks of
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  neighborhoods are like, we're out because it is so far gone.
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  And the citizens there are so lawless and anarchist in their
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  ideology that if if the law enforcement wants to go home and
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  see their family, they can't venture into those neighborhoods
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  and and those sort of pockets. They only grow and expand like a
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  cancer until it reaches the point where decent people leave
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  and those areas go into major decline.
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  And once the value of the property declines, then what
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  happens is those who are Islamic and social justice move in.
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  They take over, they set up some form of Sharia law as a
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  stronghold and then they're thinking generationally having
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  population. And that's exactly what's
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  happening in Dearborn outside of outside of what is it in
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  Michigan today. And so that that's what's going
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  to happen in some of these places.
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  Well, and they're talking about Tim Walls is threatening to call
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  in the National Guard and talking maybe we need to have a
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  civil war. And I'm like, yeah, maybe we do.
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  I would, I would love to have a civil war with these people.
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  It would it would end in 24 hours because they don't own any
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  guns. And I don't think the National
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  Guard or anyone's going to respect Tim Walls.
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  But it it would be a bunch of liberal wine moms against
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  Americans with families. It would.
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  It would never work. Well, so, so far, it's like, OK,
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  Tim, you, you're good at corruption and anarchy.
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  And turning little boys into. And and gender and mutilation,
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  you're good at anarchy, corruption and mutilation.
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  And, and if anybody thinks that's a good idea, move, move
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  to Minneapolis. If anybody doesn't move to
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  Idaho. Sure, Idaho's great.
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  Idaho's great. Well, we all know that God wants
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  us to be good stewards of our money, wealth, finances and
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  possessions. With uncertainty in the stock
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  market and the housing market, one thing we all know is gold
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  Well, Speaking of regimes that are being overthrown, we're
• 22:50
  seeing in Iran there's a ton of protests happening trying to
• 22:54
  overthrow what's the just oppressive, awful place that it
• 22:58
  is currently, Venezuela. The last couple weeks has been a
• 23:01
  good time seeing Trump just step in.
• 23:04
  And yeah, it's it's been wild, but we're we're seeing the world
• 23:08
  kind of decide, you know what, we're not going to put up with
• 23:11
  these oppressive dictator regimes and we need to fight
• 23:15
  back. What what has been your take
• 23:16
  seeing everything kind of play out the last few weeks?
• 23:19
  So those who are, so there's difference between politically,
• 23:23
  there's, there's globalism where we need to get involved in every
• 23:27
  clue. You know, every global conflict
• 23:29
  in America needs to be the police force of the world.
• 23:31
  That's how we got into Iraq and Afghanistan, and that's where we
• 23:34
  left a bunch of supplies in Afghanistan and we lost good
• 23:37
  American lives and international conflict.
• 23:40
  And I think most of us, you know, on the left and the right
• 23:42
  are at the point of like, we don't want to be globe, at least
• 23:45
  we don't want to be. We don't want to be globalist in
• 23:47
  so far as war is concerned. Those who are on the political
• 23:50
  left, they still want us to be globalist in so far as joining
• 23:53
  the World Health Organization and being politically governed
• 23:57
  by the interests of the globe, not just our nation.
• 23:59
  On the far, far right would be isolationism that we have
• 24:03
  nothing to do with other nations and we only worry about the
• 24:05
  homeland and what's within the, you know, the four boundaries of
• 24:09
  our nation. And then there is the America
• 24:11
  First agenda, which is nationalism, but it's not
• 24:14
  isolationism. It's not globalism.
• 24:17
  That is honestly what I have held since God save me in
• 24:20
  college. And it goes all the way back to,
• 24:23
  I would say a man like Pat Buchanan, who has a lot of
• 24:25
  influence on the history of some of this thought.
• 24:27
  But anyways, So what we're seeing now is there are things
• 24:30
  that are in America's interest that if we get involved, we get
• 24:34
  involved with a little problem before it becomes a big problem.
• 24:38
  This is this is like preventative maintenance in your
• 24:41
  health. It's like if I make these
• 24:43
  adjustments today, I'll avoid cancer tomorrow.
• 24:46
  And so, for example, in Venezuela, many people don't
• 24:51
  know this was a flourishing country, far more akin to
• 24:55
  democracy and then was overtaken by a bloodthirsty, you know,
• 24:59
  dictatorial regime. And, and the citizens were
• 25:03
  brutalized and the economy was crushed.
• 25:06
  And a lot of the infrastructure that America put into the oil
• 25:08
  industries, they've got the largest oil reserves on Earth,
• 25:12
  were taken by cartels and dictators.
• 25:16
  And Trump is like, you know what?
• 25:18
  They're giving a lot of the oil to China and they're funding our
• 25:24
  enemies like Cuba. So how about we just pinch the
• 25:27
  hoes? From a guy that was literally
• 25:30
  goading Trump and like come get me, you won't do it.
• 25:33
  He's like. OK, OK.
• 25:36
  Do it. What and what's wild too?
• 25:38
  I don't know if you read the reports, like it'll be
• 25:40
  interesting if any more data comes out, but like 20 Tier 1
• 25:43
  operators show up, take out hundreds of special forces, lose
• 25:49
  no one. And it seems like they had
• 25:52
  weapons that no one knows what it was.
• 25:55
  They're like Sonic, like, you know, our ears blew up, we're
• 25:58
  bleeding out the nose, we're disoriented.
• 26:00
  Like they don't know what happened.
• 26:02
  This was like, this was like The Avengers showed up and they
• 26:05
  didn't know what happened to him.
• 26:07
  And I heard that I'd have to confirm this, that one of the
• 26:10
  operators was 19. Oh my.
• 26:13
  Gosh, which would be the youngest tier one operator
• 26:15
  deployed? That's wild.
• 26:17
  That's. Wild.
• 26:18
  It's a fun operation. Yeah, like that's a high school
• 26:20
  sophomore, if that's true. And so, you know, nobody died.
• 26:26
  We don't have boots on the ground.
• 26:27
  We're not, we're not deploying Americans.
• 26:29
  We're not putting American lives at risk.
• 26:32
  But what we just did, we choked off the hose that is feeding our
• 26:37
  enemies, which is good #2 we are liberating people who are under
• 26:42
  oppression. So I don't know why those who
• 26:43
  are all the social justice Liberator activists, were they
• 26:47
  not cheering and going, We liberated and we're protecting a
• 26:50
  whole bunch of people who are? Placed don't want to paint it
• 26:52
  like we're oppressing a country, and no Venezuelan would ever say
• 26:55
  that. In Venezuela right now, there
• 26:57
  are streets that they're naming after Trump.
• 26:59
  For sure. Yeah, Ashley, my wife taught
• 27:03
  Venezuelan refugees here in America English and they they
• 27:08
  wanted to leave the country so bad because it's awful.
• 27:11
  No one in America understand understands what it's like to
• 27:14
  live in a place like that. And they would love to see it
• 27:16
  liberated, and they would love to go back and help rebuild
• 27:19
  their country, Some of them. It should be a wealthy country.
• 27:23
  With that, with with that population base and that much
• 27:27
  oil reserves, Yeah. But instead you've got a
• 27:31
  dictator who is a cartel thug funding China and enemies and
• 27:36
  supporting nations like Cuba. Well, if you Chuck, if you choke
• 27:39
  off China and you choke off Cuba as well as others, that's good.
• 27:43
  Now it forces them to negotiating table.
• 27:46
  And now what happens is you're playing 40 chess.
• 27:49
  Now all of a sudden China doesn't have the ability to
• 27:52
  strengthen their economy, which weakens their ability to invade
• 27:55
  Taiwan. Now you're averting World War
• 27:59
  Three. And if you choke off Cuba now,
• 28:01
  you're getting rid of the threat of one of our closest
• 28:06
  adversaries geographically. And you put every dictator on
• 28:09
  notice. Well, yeah.
• 28:11
  And right now, like if you're a cartel leader in Mexico or
• 28:14
  you're an enemy, you're like, OK, they actually say things and
• 28:19
  then do them, which is scary. Trump is turning this nation
• 28:23
  back into an empire that is taking ground, which we haven't
• 28:27
  seen in, I mean, maybe 100 years where nations have been taken.
• 28:32
  And we're looking at taking Venezuela, maybe Greenland I.
• 28:36
  Guess it was like a Groupon. We're going to take Venezuela,
• 28:38
  we're going to throw in Greenland.
• 28:40
  But but part of it is the the, the folks that were America
• 28:44
  first, the rabid right. They're like, we shouldn't be
• 28:48
  involved in anything internationally.
• 28:49
  We shouldn't be sending American troops to die on foreign soil
• 28:53
  for foreign wars. We should find strategic ways to
• 28:57
  bring peace to the world and serve American interests if we
• 29:00
  are Americans. And not be penalized when we
• 29:05
  were funding other countries. That's what the the tariffs was
• 29:07
  the thing that flipped the the whole economy on its head right
• 29:11
  now with we were paying China to take our product and we are
• 29:16
  paying them to get their product.
• 29:18
  And instead Trump's like, no, no, no, no, you're going to pay
• 29:20
  us both ways and OK, cool. Or don't.
• 29:23
  And I'll, I'll ruin your economy on anything coming into America
• 29:27
  because everything says made in China on it.
• 29:28
  So let me slap 100% tariff on it.
• 29:31
  Trump, Trump is becoming the most powerful man in the world,
• 29:35
  which I would appreciate our president being that because
• 29:38
  that's been the case in the history of America.
• 29:41
  We have been the person at the front and instead we were the
• 29:44
  social justice nation for the last four years and it's a
• 29:48
  terrifying place to be. Well, he thinks like a
• 29:50
  businessman. So what he's thinking is, OK,
• 29:52
  America's a customer. And now we're we're we're
• 29:56
  shopping globally. And if you want our business,
• 30:00
  we're going to negotiate the deal.
• 30:02
  Previously you have politicians that don't think like
• 30:05
  businessmen. Yep.
• 30:07
  And so you don't end up with a good deal.
• 30:10
  He's trying to make America the richest nation in the world.
• 30:12
  And I think I, I'm going to make 2 predictions that I think I
• 30:15
  think he will do. And it's going to be really
• 30:18
  hard. And I think that's why he's
• 30:19
  working on tariffs so hard is he's going to get rid of income
• 30:22
  tax and he's going to get rid of property tax.
• 30:24
  And if he gets rid of those two? You're automatically 20 to 40%
• 30:29
  richer without getting a raise. At that point is in a completely
• 30:33
  different situation and and right now I would say
• 30:36
  politically, socially, economically, culturally, the
• 30:40
  issue in America is family because family is the
• 30:44
  cornerstone for every other institution.
• 30:46
  You build business on it, you build nations on it, you build
• 30:50
  churches on a community. So without family, you got
• 30:52
  nothing. Birth rate is too small,
• 30:55
  marriage and family is expensive and it disincentivizes young
• 31:00
  people from getting married, having kids, buying a home,
• 31:03
  having a lot of kids purely from an economic standpoint.
• 31:07
  And there's an entire generation, your generation of
• 31:09
  young men and my sons that now we're, they're going to the
• 31:13
  right. And they, you know, they, they
• 31:15
  want to get married and they want to have a family.
• 31:16
  It's like, OK, well, can we, can we find a way to help them
• 31:20
  actually like get married, buy a house and have a lot of kids.
• 31:24
  And if we do that, then what we're doing, we're unlocking the
• 31:28
  future of the United States of America and as pro-life
• 31:31
  Christians and be fruitful and multiply folks, we're like, you
• 31:34
  know what? Our God would bless that and get
• 31:36
  behind that and put a tailwind to it.
• 31:39
  And so if we can find a way to keep money in the pockets of
• 31:42
  fathers and keep it out of the pocket of government.
• 31:47
  Then what we're doing is we're putting.
• 31:49
  We're putting the future of the country into the hands of young
• 31:52
  men who are husbands and fathers, and we're taking it out
• 31:56
  of the hands of old men who are politicians 100.
• 32:00
  Percent it's it's putting the. Wealth where it needs to go,
• 32:03
  lowering gas prices, capping credit card rates, buying
• 32:07
  mortgage bonds, forcing interest rates down at forcing other
• 32:11
  countries to stop taking advantage of us, having a budget
• 32:14
  surplus. They found $30 billion the other
• 32:16
  day and the guy walks into his office and he's like, we found
• 32:19
  we don't know where this is from.
• 32:20
  And he's like the IT was under the couch cushion.
• 32:24
  Like he is. Running the country in a way
• 32:26
  that will sustain us for a very long time and encourage his
• 32:29
  family. And it's my hats off to him.
• 32:32
  It's very impressive. And every step of the way
• 32:34
  everyone's fighting him, everyone's breaks, hard breaks.
• 32:38
  The courts are trying to undo each decision he makes and and
• 32:42
  then I think he's got a real shot he needs to win the
• 32:44
  midterms if we don't win the midterms.
• 32:47
  Those on the right, it'll just be law, fair and gridlock up
• 32:51
  until the next presidential election.
• 32:53
  It's going to be a it's going to be a knife fight in a phone
• 32:56
  booth. But for me, you know, people
• 32:58
  look at his, his personality and I would say look at policy, Look
• 33:05
  at policy and look at where, look at the two options that we
• 33:09
  had. We had two options.
• 33:10
  And and don't look at personality, look at policy.
• 33:13
  I mean, in so far as personality goes, you know, one of the
• 33:17
  nicest, most congenial presidents we ever had was Jimmy
• 33:20
  Carter. And.
• 33:24
  His leadership ability was about the same as this table, you
• 33:29
  know, I mean, Trump is governing like a king.
• 33:32
  And people don't like that. He's wired like a king.
• 33:35
  God wired him like a king to run this in a way where people don't
• 33:38
  take advantage of it. Well, I'll be honest.
• 33:41
  You know when you the next thing like I don't know any sane
• 33:43
  healthy human being that wants the job or can keep it.
• 33:46
  No, no. No, no, yeah, no.
• 33:49
  It's well. And something you've pointed out
• 33:52
  over the last year, it's become very clear, like all of the
• 33:55
  pastors that came out against Trump, it was like this blaring
• 33:59
  rainbow flag they wanted to fly that they'd given up on the
• 34:02
  gospel and gone apostate. And they don't.
• 34:06
  A lot of these pastors just seem like they don't know Jesus.
• 34:09
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  your mouth. We wanted to play a clip in just
• 35:38
  a second, but just to tee this up. 8 1/2 year affair with
• 35:44
  another married gal. He's a best selling author.
• 35:47
  I think he sold. I want to say it was like
• 35:49
  18,000,000 copies of his books. Yeah, no, he is one of the most.
• 35:52
  Prolific, best selling Christian authors.
• 35:55
  I mean, you know, he's canonized as a St. over at Christianity
• 35:58
  Today. Oh gosh.
• 36:01
  It's like. Yeah, you don't want that.
• 36:04
  Yeah, I mean. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, but
• 36:06
  it so. Big Eva.
• 36:09
  Is under judgement and pruning and big Eva and the hypocrisy is
• 36:15
  being exposed at at a really tragic and I find no joy now but
• 36:22
  it is it is profoundly frustrating that a whole
• 36:24
  generation of older men. Yeah, he's in his mid to late.
• 36:29
  70s Yeah, they're not. Only not.
• 36:31
  Finishing well, they're being exposed that maybe the race
• 36:34
  wasn't run well. No, I I totally agree.
• 36:37
  And I think this will be a very interesting clip for those
• 36:40
  online. This was nine years ago, right
• 36:42
  before he started his Right before he started.
• 36:45
  Sleeping with another man's wife?
• 36:46
  Yep. So all right, let's roll a clip.
• 36:56
  Well, I. I will show my own bias.
• 36:59
  I I am staggered that so many conservative or evangelical
• 37:05
  Christians would see a man who is a bully, who made his money
• 37:11
  by casinos, who has had several wives and several affairs, that
• 37:17
  they would somehow paint him as as a hero, as as someone that we
• 37:22
  could stand behind. I'll just say it out.
• 37:27
  Out loud. I I can't understand how
• 37:29
  evangelical I can understand. Well, maybe you choose these
• 37:33
  policies that you support. OK, that's, I understand that.
• 37:37
  But to to choose a person who stands against everything that
• 37:41
  Christianity believes as the hero, the representative, one
• 37:45
  that we get behind enthusiastically, is not
• 37:48
  something I understand at all. And, and frankly, I think the
• 37:52
  church in the United States as it the, the more it embeds with
• 37:57
  politics, the more it, shall we say, hitches a ride with
• 38:02
  politics. Europeans understand where that
• 38:05
  goes when the church and the state are seen like this.
• 38:09
  And then the state proves what it is, which is a, a flawed,
• 38:14
  sometimes corrupt system. Then the church is judged by the
• 38:18
  and rejected in the same way the state.
• 38:20
  There are countries in Europe that, you know, where the church
• 38:24
  is set back for decades and decades because they have been
• 38:28
  stained by the way they sold their soul for power, I would
• 38:34
  say. And, and as as the United States
• 38:37
  grows more and more secular, I, I tell the people there.
• 38:42
  I tell my people we are becoming more like the the fertile soil
• 38:47
  in which the early church did best, like the Roman Empire.
• 38:51
  This is a Pagan, hostile society, and yet Christians
• 38:55
  stood out by being different. When you're in a place like the
• 38:58
  United States or Europe in its recent past, where the majority
• 39:02
  would claim to be Christians but they don't look, they look like
• 39:05
  everybody else, then people don't understand what the gospel
• 39:09
  is. If they look radically different
• 39:10
  from the world around them, people can see that difference.
• 39:15
  And then a year later he's like, I'm going to ride that married
• 39:19
  chick for 8 1/2 years. I don't know who slept with Bob
• 39:23
  Ross. I.
• 39:23
  Mean, I don't look at that guy. I don't know.
• 39:26
  So this is what is so madding. The soft, kind, tender, arty,
• 39:35
  eloquent, eloquent, inoffensive, white knighting, virtue
• 39:39
  signaling, third way evangelicals are constantly
• 39:46
  getting exposed for what they are.
• 39:49
  And that is damnable, profitable fraudsters.
• 39:53
  And you know, it's like, so in this one 8 1/2 year adulterous
• 40:00
  affair, OK, with a married woman, we don't know who she is.
• 40:05
  We don't know how old she is. There's a lot of questions that
• 40:08
  I would have #1. Did you get caught or come clean
• 40:11
  after 8 1/2 years? It's not like you woke up one
• 40:13
  day and the Holy Spirit zapped your conscience because your
• 40:17
  conscience at that point is seared.
• 40:19
  It's gone. You're probably in the process
• 40:23
  of getting exposed and so you're trying to get ahead of it.
• 40:26
  In addition, you know, I want to know, like, how old is the gal
• 40:29
  that you were sleeping with? In addition, was she a
• 40:31
  subordinate? Is this like an employee that
• 40:34
  you put on the payroll and you taking advantage of your
• 40:36
  position? Is this someone you had
• 40:39
  spiritual authority over and now you're manipulating that toward
• 40:43
  sexual favors? You know, in addition, during
• 40:47
  this time, he's still writing and speaking.
• 40:49
  And so the the the latest book that he published last year was
• 40:53
  a 365 day devotional guide through the Bible, which means
• 40:57
  the whole time that he's sleeping with some dude's wife
• 41:00
  and his own wife. He is studying and writing.
• 41:05
  An overview of the entire Bible so that.
• 41:09
  People can. Understand and rightly interpret
• 41:13
  and apply the Word of God in obedience and humility, which.
• 41:20
  Means. I mean, I just, my, my mind
• 41:23
  explodes when you're like, hey, I'm going to type about the
• 41:29
  Bible and I'm going to go touch another man's wife and then I'm
• 41:31
  going to tell you about the Bible and then I touch another
• 41:34
  and this is your career. So true or false?
• 41:37
  Biblically, he's far worse than Trump.
• 41:40
  He's a teacher and a pastor. Biblically, I mean so.
• 41:43
  Biblically this is I don't get it.
• 41:49
  I mean, I'll be honest with you. Like you're my son-in-law, you
• 41:52
  married my daughter. Like the Bible.
• 41:54
  Says not many of you should. Be teachers, you'll be judged
• 41:58
  more strictly, more harshly, meaning the judgement for a
• 42:02
  politician is here, the judgement for a Bible teaching
• 42:05
  pastor or leader is here. Yeah.
• 42:08
  So this should give everyone who preaches or teaches A profound
• 42:15
  fear of God, fear of God. I mean, John Calvin, I'll
• 42:19
  paraphrase. He once said any man who is
• 42:22
  going into the pulpit without his knees knocking, it would be
• 42:24
  better if he fell and broke his neck on the way.
• 42:27
  Like like. There should be a holy.
• 42:31
  Fear of God, you know, and the Bible's and, and the, the
• 42:34
  garbage that comes out after this crap too.
• 42:37
  It just, I'm just freaking sick of all of the, the adultery and
• 42:41
  then, and then like they go to 15 minutes of time out and
• 42:44
  they're back and, and, and, and this garbage nonsense where it's
• 42:48
  like, oh, you know, nobody's perfect.
• 42:50
  We all have problems. Like no, like in the Old
• 42:53
  Testament, we killed you. Like we just killed you.
• 42:57
  You. Didn't get to be a serial
• 42:58
  offender like we killed you So this piece of trash his wife?
• 43:02
  Now is going to be the typical one and take care of him Well,
• 43:05
  his poor wife is saying, you know, I've got.
• 43:07
  Trauma and I'm devastated, but I'm going to hold true to my
• 43:10
  vows. He's got Parkinson's, which I'm
• 43:12
  going to take care of him. It's like I'll tell you my wife,
• 43:14
  she will be changing his diapers in a.
• 43:16
  Few years my wife would take care of.
• 43:18
  Me by hitting me in the head with a shovel.
• 43:21
  That's how she repeated, repeated.
• 43:22
  And then Ashley would be there and then.
• 43:24
  Lexie will be there and then well and and in all of this.
• 43:27
  Too. It's like I won't even.
• 43:29
  Name names but but. Then the the complete whore bags
• 43:34
  that come out and turn this into we're going to talk about our
• 43:38
  process of recovering from adultery and monetize it into
• 43:42
  our new ministry platform. It's like you've turned your
• 43:46
  disqualification into your ministry platform.
• 43:50
  I'll say it so you don't have to the.
• 43:51
  The it's disgusting that there's guys like Carl Lentz right now.
• 43:56
  It's like being put up on a pedestal.
• 43:57
  He had an affair and his wife, and it's this beautiful thing
• 44:02
  that he's doing by being so vulnerable with the world and
• 44:05
  he's getting on gigantic platforms because he's willing
• 44:08
  to talk about it and be broken and he's monetizing an affair.
• 44:12
  He's more popular now than he's ever been because he slept with
• 44:16
  another man's wife. Are you kidding me?
• 44:19
  When when breaking. A commandment like adultery
• 44:24
  becomes the basis of your income stream.
• 44:29
  You need to go to Costco and. Get a soul because you don't
• 44:33
  have one that is functioning properly.
• 44:36
  I mean, you know, this is where for me, I took an oath to God
• 44:42
  and my wife when we got married. And marriage is a sacred oath
• 44:46
  between your wife and God. And as soon as you take on the
• 44:51
  mantle of ministry leader, pastor, teacher, spiritual
• 44:57
  authority, you are taking on a massive responsibility to speak
• 45:04
  on behalf of God. When you sell millions of books
• 45:08
  and millions of people are listening to you and you're
• 45:11
  saying here's what the God of the universe says, and they're
• 45:15
  listening. You should take that with.
• 45:19
  Such a an intense sober assessment and and then to
• 45:26
  Landon like. The damage that you.
• 45:30
  Do if you're a pastor to your flock.
• 45:33
  I mean, I've officiated a lot of weddings.
• 45:36
  I've done a ton of premarital. I'm still a bastard.
• 45:38
  Like I'm still people's pastor. They believe in marriage because
• 45:43
  I'm married. You know the amount.
• 45:47
  Of guys you've helped get. Out of a ditch and get back on
• 45:50
  the path if all of a sudden they find out I live in the ditch.
• 45:54
  They'll go right back into the. Ditch you, undo the good that
• 45:57
  God did through you. No, I like.
• 45:59
  Hey, guys. Paul says follow me as I follow
• 46:02
  Christ. I mean, that's the job.
• 46:05
  And if you ain't following Christ, well, then let everybody
• 46:08
  know so they can stop following you, you know, and, and for me,
• 46:12
  like the horror of it, just the, the, this is where my soul just
• 46:16
  gets right to fury. Like how do you look at your
• 46:21
  kids? Cause 'cause like with my.
• 46:25
  Kids like I'm their dad and I'm their pastor.
• 46:30
  And then you add. Grandkids, I'm choosing that my.
• 46:34
  Son, that you're his pastor. I know, and that's I.
• 46:38
  Mean if you. Violate that?
• 46:39
  No, No, no, no, no. What I would, I would be the
• 46:42
  first to tell you, yeah, 100% like I.
• 46:44
  Love your son. And his soul more than my job
• 46:48
  and my platform. So for one of these pastors.
• 46:51
  They want to blow up their life. They want to do all this.
• 46:53
  Should they keep going in ministry?
• 46:55
  What? What should they do?
• 46:56
  What should he have done nine years ago?
• 46:59
  Well. Let's say this, thou shalt not
• 47:02
  commit adultery for sure. Like God wrote that down
• 47:07
  himself. There's a lot of verses.
• 47:08
  I looked him up. There's so many verses on not
• 47:11
  doing this. Yeah, no kidding.
• 47:12
  I mean and. And Jesus says it starts in the
• 47:14
  heart. So as a human being, you know
• 47:17
  before you have adultery of the hands, you have adultery of the
• 47:20
  heart. And when adultery starts in the
• 47:22
  heart, like you, you, you better pull that root before it fruits
• 47:27
  with full blown adultery. And I would say if you are, you
• 47:32
  know, don't do this. But if you're going to do this,
• 47:35
  quit your freaking job. Stop being a pastor, stop being
• 47:38
  a pastor or a leader. Stop saying Jesus and just, you
• 47:43
  know, like Judas, go hang yourself.
• 47:47
  Like go, just go do Jesus looks at Judas.
• 47:50
  He's like, well, you go do what you want to do, but don't hang
• 47:54
  out with me and don't pretend that we're friends.
• 47:58
  And and for me, this is where this is where it's it's
• 48:05
  absolute, complete and total betrayal of your covenant with
• 48:09
  God, your covenant with wife. And also it it absolutely
• 48:14
  eviscerates your family. Like I start.
• 48:18
  So all all the grandkids were over at our house yesterday.
• 48:22
  It was it was a great time. I mean, not all four are
• 48:24
  running. So I'm on zone defense, man.
• 48:26
  They got me going and Jude ain't running yet and Sadie's on the
• 48:29
  way. So we're going to be, we're
• 48:31
  going to be 6 here soon. It's wonderful.
• 48:33
  Great time. So like so far, the, the one
• 48:35
  granddaughter I have that's in the world and 1 is in the womb
• 48:38
  is, is Lila. And so Lila's a year old.
• 48:45
  When I said I do to. Grace, I started making
• 48:48
  decisions with Lila in mind as. A as a 21 year.
• 48:53
  Old man, I've always lived in the future as a visionary and
• 48:56
  I've always lived for legacy. And I was.
• 48:59
  I have always thought, you know, when my granddaughter looks me
• 49:03
  in the eye, she falls in love. She wants to get married, you
• 49:07
  know? Bop, have you been?
• 49:10
  Faithful to Nana. And can I trust a man?
• 49:13
  And is marriage worth it? And is the Bible true what it
• 49:15
  says about marriage? I have to be able to look her in
• 49:18
  the eye. So I've been faithful to Nana.
• 49:21
  You can trust a man, the Bible works, marriage is awesome.
• 49:25
  I need to be able to look her in the eye and say that before her
• 49:28
  wedding day. And every decision I make has to
• 49:32
  be to be able to say that to my sons and daughters and to say
• 49:36
  that to my grandsons and my granddaughters so that our
• 49:39
  family can have generational legacy, that there can be
• 49:44
  blessing on our children and our children's children.
• 49:47
  And I'll never forget one of our, our kids are all justice
• 49:51
  kids, you know that they just my whole family's justice family.
• 49:54
  But like I've told the story before, I was driving in the
• 49:57
  truck and one of my sons was in the front seat too.
• 49:59
  My sons were in the back seat. And I just asked them, 'cause I,
• 50:02
  I'm overt with the, with our, I'm like, you guys can ask me
• 50:05
  anything. I'm going to be overt and honest
• 50:07
  with our kids. And I said, do you guys have any
• 50:09
  questions for Dad? First question, one of the sons
• 50:12
  behind me, first question, Dad, have you been faithful to our
• 50:15
  mom? He was like 10 or 12 or
• 50:16
  something. I was like, wow, yeah.
• 50:19
  But. Since.
• 50:21
  I went on a date. With their mom on March 12th,
• 50:24
  1988. When I was 17, Even before I
• 50:27
  knew Christ. Every minute of every day, every
• 50:31
  decision was to answer that question.
• 50:34
  Yep. And I think men believe.
• 50:38
  They're above it, like their ministry.
• 50:40
  They're yeah. It's not something I'm going to
• 50:42
  struggle with. It's not going to happen to me.
• 50:43
  And IT it says in the Bible, Satan prowls around like a
• 50:47
  roaring lion, like coming to destroy you.
• 50:50
  And how many men have fallen to this very same thing?
• 50:54
  That's why the Bible says it so many times.
• 50:58
  Yeah. It's just, it's disgusting.
• 51:00
  And I think you get at the generational impact.
• 51:03
  If you made that decision, your sons are so much more likely to
• 51:06
  make that decision, not you in general, but just in general,
• 51:10
  when a father makes this short term decision, it destroys their
• 51:13
  kids. It destroys their legacy.
• 51:15
  Their daughters will marry somebody different because the
• 51:18
  father made this choice. So I'll ask you a bizarre.
• 51:20
  Question, Since I'm dominating a conversation, it would like if I
• 51:24
  had, you know, Ben Ashley, your wife, my daughter's pastor and
• 51:29
  father, and I cheated on her mom, do you think she would have
• 51:32
  ever married you? No, no.
• 51:34
  She saw so many bad men up in Seattle, so many evil pastors.
• 51:41
  She was, I think, had major trust issues of men in general.
• 51:45
  She trusted you and she had a high standard of men because of
• 51:48
  you and had some glimmer of hope that there'd be a guy that she
• 51:52
  could respect one day. It was a glimmer.
• 51:54
  It was that that had to be worked on.
• 51:56
  But if if you had done that, there's no chance she'd be
• 51:59
  married ever. I I believe she would be single
• 52:02
  the rest of her life. There'd be no indie.
• 52:05
  Oh gosh, I can't even think about that.
• 52:07
  I'll start. Crying.
• 52:08
  Yeah. I mean, yeah, there are
• 52:11
  grandkids. That are not going to be born
• 52:14
  into this world because of mistakes.
• 52:16
  Not mistakes. Sin like this.
• 52:19
  There are daughters that won't ever marry.
• 52:21
  There were kids that won't ever be born because of a short term
• 52:24
  decision you make and you ruin your entire legacy.
• 52:27
  You you, you were faithful, you wrote books, you had a 55 year
• 52:31
  marriage. All this stuff.
• 52:31
  You're going into your sunset years and you're in your 60s
• 52:35
  Sixty. Five, you're like, you know what
• 52:36
  sounds? Good.
• 52:37
  A girlfriend? What?
• 52:41
  1 and in that too. And I'm not.
• 52:42
  Going to accuse him of anything but my question is.
• 52:47
  If you pull the. Pin on the grenade and swallow
• 52:50
  it at 65. Is that your first grenade you
• 52:52
  know? What I'm saying, no chance.
• 52:56
  Yeah, I, I don't know a lot of guys that are.
• 52:58
  You know, a lifetime of purity and it's 65 like today.
• 53:02
  After walking with the Lord faithfully my whole life and
• 53:05
  writing lots of books and being a deep student of the Bible,
• 53:09
  today's the day I pulled the pin and swallow the grenade.
• 53:13
  And so this is going to sound harsh, intense, judgmental, but
• 53:17
  profoundly helpful. There are two kinds of men.
• 53:20
  Men who cheat and men who don't. And men who cheat once.
• 53:24
  They usually don't just cheat once.
• 53:26
  Yep, 100%. Fully agree.
• 53:29
  And it's interesting he said that we're we're running into an
• 53:33
  issue where Christianity and and America were Christians are
• 53:37
  starting to look like the world and he's worse than the world.
• 53:41
  I mean to to hold the title pastor and teacher and to do
• 53:45
  these things, you're judged much more harshly than Trump will be.
• 53:48
  Trump very well could end up in heaven and God say well done,
• 53:51
  good and faithful servant and he'll end up there and get well.
• 53:55
  And when you're a when? You're a teacher when you're, so
• 53:57
  when you're a high level author for books and Christianity and
• 54:02
  stuff. So there's pastors that teach
• 54:04
  hundreds of people, and now you're teaching millions of
• 54:07
  people and you're teaching thousands, 10s of thousands of
• 54:11
  pastors. The level of influence comes
• 54:14
  with the level of responsibility 17,000,000.
• 54:17
  Copies sold. That's incredible in one sense
• 54:22
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• 54:24
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  next. Segment the church looking like
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  the world and the world looking like the church we're seeing a
• 56:25
  whole age of influencers and athletes and actors profess
• 56:29
  their faith and in some sense it feels like it's a good thing and
• 56:34
  then then other senses there's question marks of should you be
• 56:38
  leading people? Should you be the one setting
• 56:39
  the example and one of the most viral videos online this last
• 56:43
  week was Lily Phillips. She's a only fans.
• 56:48
  They call it model more like a prostitute.
• 56:51
  She has done ridiculous things like sleep with elderly people.
• 56:57
  100 guys in one day. I think she got up to 1000 guys
• 57:00
  in one day. Just horrific evil.
• 57:03
  And this week, the most viral video on the Internet was this.
• 57:09
  Everything that. I've had.
• 57:21
  Awesome, she. Got baptized.
• 57:23
  The whole world's like, oh, well, this is what we've all
• 57:25
  been praying for. Immediately goes and does
• 57:28
  pornography the next day and then says, well, this is my
• 57:32
  second baptism and it really isn't going to impact my views
• 57:36
  on gay marriage, on abortion, on pornography, on doing this
• 57:40
  stuff. I just, I'm a Christian now.
• 57:44
  That does more harm than. Good.
• 57:45
  I would say it's so. Here's what the Bible says, and
• 57:50
  this is the problem with evangelicalism.
• 57:52
  The problem, well, there's so many problems with
• 57:54
  evangelicalism. The problem with evangelicalism
• 57:58
  is always do you believe in Jesus?
• 58:00
  And the Bible asks, do you, have you repented and believed?
• 58:05
  And the Bible says over and over repent and be baptized, repent,
• 58:11
  repent is the issue. When Martin Luther nailed the 95
• 58:16
  theses to the church door, Wittenberg had been there in
• 58:19
  Germany. That was considered sort of the
• 58:21
  the shattered around the world. That was the first domino that
• 58:24
  was pushed for the Protestant Reformation.
• 58:27
  And the first line of the 95 theses was this.
• 58:31
  All of a Christian's life is 1 of repentance.
• 58:34
  So the foundation of Protestant Christianity is repentance of
• 58:40
  sin. To become a Christian and to
• 58:43
  grow as a Christian all of your life, day one, get saved every
• 58:48
  day after repentance of sin. That's Christianity.
• 58:54
  And it's not just, hey, Jesus, I'm going to be like the
• 58:58
  elephants in the circus and I'm just going to walk around my
• 59:02
  life and take a dump and you're the clown that follows me around
• 59:06
  with the shovel and just picks up the mess that I leave.
• 59:10
  That's not Christianity. Jesus isn't a clown with a
• 59:14
  shovel following you around in the circus of your life.
• 59:18
  You repent, you change. You're not perfect, but there is
• 59:23
  a process. And in it you're making progress
• 59:26
  where you're not who you were, but you're changing and you're
• 59:30
  becoming more like who you will be when he raises you from the
• 59:34
  dead and you're perfected and the final version of you is
• 59:37
  unveiled. And so you know what?
• 59:39
  What Christianity is lacking is repentance.
• 59:43
  And, and here's why. Because of freaking seeker
• 59:46
  sensitive Christianity, which in one regard I understand, like
• 59:50
  let's welcome non Christians and make it hospitable.
• 59:54
  But what has happened then we've taken the gospel of Jesus Christ
• 59:57
  and we've turned it down to a marketing pitch.
• 1:00:00
  We've tried to determine, okay, if the seeker is the customer,
• 1:00:04
  how does the church become the business?
• 1:00:07
  And then the gospel become the message.
• 1:00:10
  And how do we create a business that the seeker feels welcome
• 1:00:13
  in? And then how do we construct a
• 1:00:15
  message that the consumer will, you know, ascribe to?
• 1:00:20
  And then what you end up with is what is called easy believism
• 1:00:24
  and man centered theology. And do you want to feel better?
• 1:00:28
  Do you want your life to have purpose?
• 1:00:30
  Do you want to do you want to have a higher self esteem?
• 1:00:33
  We'll just add Jesus to your life rather than repenting of
• 1:00:37
  your whole life and having Jesus be Lord over your life and reset
• 1:00:41
  your whole life. And so the, the lack of
• 1:00:44
  repentance, at least to a man centered theology, not a God
• 1:00:47
  centered theology and it leads to not a transformed life.
• 1:00:52
  And so part of the baptismal creed in the early church, it
• 1:00:55
  was, it was pretty wonderful. It they would ask you, do you
• 1:01:00
  renounce Satan and all of his works?
• 1:01:03
  They would ask you that before they would baptize you.
• 1:01:06
  That would be a really great question for this gal.
• 1:01:09
  Like, do you renounce Satan in all of his works?
• 1:01:11
  Because being a prostitute who is encouraging men to commit
• 1:01:17
  adultery in their heart and married men to really have some
• 1:01:21
  sick things going on in their mind.
• 1:01:23
  And if you messed up, just abort the baby.
• 1:01:25
  Yeah. And so, yeah, yeah, you're now
• 1:01:27
  you're. Encouraging homosexuality,
• 1:01:28
  abortion, pornography, lost adultery, Like like you need to
• 1:01:32
  renounce the devil in his works. That would be a really good
• 1:01:35
  question. And so it feels like we
• 1:01:38
  immediately. And I'm not defending her at
• 1:01:41
  all. It probably everybody's like,
• 1:01:43
  OK, she did this as a stunt. She's a bad person.
• 1:01:47
  I doubt it. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:48
  I. I.
• 1:01:49
  I would to me as a pastor, I'm like who's baptized probably 100
• 1:01:53
  people. There's it's our responsibility.
• 1:01:56
  It's our. Responsibility.
• 1:01:57
  And there's probably. Some really bad teaching
• 1:01:59
  involved here and a pastor that was like, you know what'll help
• 1:02:03
  a lot? We baptize her.
• 1:02:05
  So let's tell her a version of the gospel that's not the
• 1:02:07
  gospel. But man, it'll, it'll, it'll get
• 1:02:10
  some views. It'll get some likes and I I
• 1:02:14
  don't know that the responsibility sits with the non
• 1:02:16
  Christian because she's a non Christian at this point.
• 1:02:18
  None of this stuff should. When?
• 1:02:19
  You're dealing with high profile celebrity people.
• 1:02:22
  In my opinion none of that should start on the Internet.
• 1:02:25
  No like as. Soon as Kanye said I.
• 1:02:27
  Met Jesus and all of a sudden we put him online.
• 1:02:30
  It's like, well, whether or not he's saved, let's disciple him.
• 1:02:34
  Let him mature privately offline.
• 1:02:37
  And if he ends up being a genuine Christian who doesn't
• 1:02:40
  sound like a complete idiot, maybe then we give him a mic.
• 1:02:43
  You. Know.
• 1:02:45
  Even the Apostle Paul, once he got saved, he disappeared for a
• 1:02:48
  few years and then he emerged and we let him talk.
• 1:02:52
  And so the, the problem here is with the leader, with the
• 1:02:56
  pastor. It's their responsibility.
• 1:02:58
  And what happens with people that have some really nefarious
• 1:03:02
  sin in their life. Sometimes they got a lot of
• 1:03:04
  guilt and shame and they're they get superstitious and they think
• 1:03:08
  like a little superstition will fix it.
• 1:03:10
  Like without getting too deep into the details, like I
• 1:03:14
  baptized prostitutes, porn stars, escorts, strippers, all
• 1:03:20
  of that. I've been doing this a long
• 1:03:21
  time. One of the first was a gal is a
• 1:03:24
  weird story. I was running a college ministry
• 1:03:27
  and then it ended up becoming a a brokeity broke late night
• 1:03:30
  Sunday night church plant and every week in the offering we
• 1:03:34
  had a wad of ones. This is not even a joke.
• 1:03:37
  Like covered in baby oil, wrapped with a rubber band and
• 1:03:42
  every. Week it was it.
• 1:03:44
  Was the same thing and we didn't, it was like 80 grand was
• 1:03:46
  the total income that whole year.
• 1:03:49
  And a like a percentage of it was baby oiled ones.
• 1:03:52
  It was, it was, it was unusual. And so, you know, finally I was
• 1:03:56
  like, where is this coming from? It was a gal won't say her name.
• 1:04:00
  She knows who she is. She was a stripper.
• 1:04:04
  And she was tithing. 10% off of her tips every week.
• 1:04:10
  OK, all money is the Lord's money, but that.
• 1:04:13
  Money is, yeah, I was, you know. Met with her, I think is Grace
• 1:04:17
  and I are female leader at the church.
• 1:04:19
  I mean, I met with her was like, tell me your story.
• 1:04:21
  She's like, well, I've been doing this and I've been coming
• 1:04:24
  to church and you know, I I, I met Jesus and so I'm tithing and
• 1:04:28
  I was like, OK, tell me about Jesus.
• 1:04:30
  She she really met Jesus, but she really didn't understand.
• 1:04:35
  Like she needed a new job. Yeah, And she was tithing.
• 1:04:38
  So she thought, well, my job's OK because I'm tithing off it.
• 1:04:42
  She's religious, She's spiritual, She's being
• 1:04:44
  superstitious. She's a new Christian.
• 1:04:46
  I was like, you got to get a new job.
• 1:04:48
  You can't, you can't, like you can't go to church.
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  You can't do that on Saturday night and come to church on
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  Sunday night. And I'm telling you, like, Jesus
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  don't need 10% of that. And so we talked to her.
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  And so she eventually said, you need to repent.
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  And I told her, I said, I said, you need to be baptized.
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  And she was living and sleeping with her boyfriend, who also
• 1:05:09
  became a Christian. And so I met with him.
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  I said, you can't be living and sleeping together.
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  You guys need to move out. You're a Christian now you need
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  to repent. So they they did, they moved out
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  and they stopped sleeping together.
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  They stopped living together. And I told her, I said, you need
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  to get a new job. And I said, if you guys are
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  going to get married, I told him he was kind of a video game
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  playing deadbeat. I said, you got to go get a real
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  job. Need to marry her.
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  If you guys want to have a family, you're going to need to
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  be primary bread or like I laid it all out and he's like, OK.
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  And I showed him in the Bible. We did Bible studies.
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  He's like, I'm in, she's like, I'm in.
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  So he he stopped smoking weed, sleeping with her, living with
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  her, playing video games as an idiot and got activated, got a
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  job. I think she got a job like
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  coding video games. So we went from playing them to
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  making them. There you go.
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  Made good money. She quit her job and got a like
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  a secretarial job, got a got a regular job.
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  And she then would go back into the club, not during hours and
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  she would meet with the girls and she brought them Bibles and
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  shared her testimony and she started an evangelistic Bible
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  study with the gals that were working at the club.
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  She LED some of them to Christ and they left their job.
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  And so eventually this couple got married and.
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  They loved and served. Jesus.
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  And it stuck years later, even when I left Seattle some years
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  later, they were faithfully married.
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  They loved the Lord. They had a Christian family
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  because they were told, here's what a Christian life looks
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  like. Not just do you want to be
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  forgiven? Do you want to, do you want to
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  go and sin no more. And so as a leader, we're going
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  to meet people. As a pastor, we're going to meet
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  people. That's where they are.
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  Great. Let's meet them right where they
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  are and let's give them the path forward.
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  I think people are scared. They want to soften the gospel,
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  and the gospel is the most transformative book in the
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  history of the world. And it's shocking when you sit
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  down with a girl like that and explain the gospel, that her
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  heart could change and that she could move to Jesus and repent.
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  But if she's not given that opportunity, oh, that's so sad.
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  So there's a pastor who had a chance to share the gospel and
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  he didn't. I mean she, it's not like she
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  stopped doing porn for a month and then fell back into it.
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  She immediately did and immediately said that none of
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  her views changed. So there is no discipleship, no
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  explanation of the gospel. And so I wouldn't say the
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  responsibility falls in the non Christian.
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  It's got to fall in the pastor. It has to fall in the pastor.
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  And and in that as well, the pastor didn't love her because
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  what he did, he baptized her, but he didn't help her because
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  if she goes back to porn, sleeping with 1000 men in a day,
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  literally, I mean, as a, as a dad who's got daughters this
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  age, like her income stream is public trauma.
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  So she pays her bills by enduring public sexual trauma.
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  And the public sexual trauma is instant, constant, global,
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  permanent. Once it's posted, the whole
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  world can see it forever if you. Love a young woman.
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  You don't want that for her. No, she's.
• 1:08:39
  She's Lexi's age. What?
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  What would you tell her? I Would I.
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  Would be bawling it it might now that I'm a dad and my my
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  daughter's, you know, are of this age, I'd be like whatever.
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  Trauma happened to you? Whatever abuse happened to you
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  that caused you to think that this is your identity and that
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  going forward, this is who you are.
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  I'll, I'll, I'll tell you exactly what I would say.
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  How much time we got. So I'll tell you a pastoral
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  story. I didn't know where you're going
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  to go her. So I started a college Bible
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  study for punk rock kids when I was in my early 20s.
• 1:09:21
  And we were, we were absolute flat broken.
• 1:09:25
  All the kids were just, the guys were all addicted.
• 1:09:28
  The gals were all assault and trauma victims.
• 1:09:31
  I'll never forget there was a young woman came, she got fired
• 1:09:35
  from a job at Home Depot for having sex with four or five
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  guys in the break room at the same time.
• 1:09:40
  Gosh. She was in she was in she.
• 1:09:43
  Was in my little church plant that started as a college
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  ministry and I found out about this and I was like, I'm a
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  young, I'm a young pastor. I didn't have a kid yet.
• 1:09:55
  I'm, I'm not even a dad yet. And so another female leader and
• 1:09:59
  I met with her and, and I grew up in a neighborhood with strip
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  clubs and prostitutes and Green River Killer and Ted Bundy and,
• 1:10:09
  and some of the prostitutes in the neighborhood were gals that
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  I went to high school with. And I knew so I would, I was, I
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  was 15 or 16. I was, I was driving and I was
• 1:10:19
  down on this busy intersection where the prostitutes would get
• 1:10:23
  picked up next to the airport and somebody banged on the
• 1:10:25
  window in my car and I was looking to take a left.
• 1:10:28
  And it was like the passenger, I looked over and it was a, it was
• 1:10:32
  a gal. And my, my window was cracked.
• 1:10:34
  It wasn't down. And she was soliciting me for
• 1:10:37
  prostitution. It was a gal in my sociology
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  class. Gosh.
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  I looked at her and I. Said her name and she looked at
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  me like this is where I grew up. So I knew these girls never did
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  anything, never went to a club, never did anything because I
• 1:10:53
  knew these girls and I was broken hearted because I saw
• 1:10:55
  what they went through. So this, this gal in my church
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  plant college thing met with her with another female leader and
• 1:11:05
  I, I was just shocked and devastated.
• 1:11:07
  I'm, I'm a brand new pastor. You know, I don't know what I'm
• 1:11:10
  doing. I said why do you do this?
• 1:11:13
  And she said I'm a dirty girl so I do dirty things.
• 1:11:17
  I'll never forget it my whole. And I asked her.
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  I said who told you that? She said my grandfather.
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  Gosh, she said he. Would abuse me and then he would
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  tell me I make you do dirty things because you're a dirty
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  girl. Gosh, I couldn't stop.
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  Crying. I'm just I, I'm I at this point.
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  I'm in my 20s. I'm like your age.
• 1:11:41
  I'm dying, I'm thinking this poor girl, she's her abuse
• 1:11:47
  became her identity and it was put on her by her grandpa.
• 1:11:51
  Just the most demonic, satanic, horrifying thing I can conceive
• 1:11:56
  of. So it got me studying a doctrine
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  in the Bible called expiation. And so when it says in the
• 1:12:05
  Bible, if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to
• 1:12:08
  forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
• 1:12:13
  Justification is where our sins are forgiven, were declared
• 1:12:17
  righteous in the sight of God. Expiation is where we're
• 1:12:20
  cleansed from all of our unrighteousness.
• 1:12:24
  And this was depicted on Yom Kippur, Day of Atonement.
• 1:12:28
  They called it the day. And so it was the big day in
• 1:12:30
  Judaism. You had two goats that were
• 1:12:33
  sacrificed. There's a point to all of this.
• 1:12:35
  The first goat was the substitute.
• 1:12:37
  The second goat was the scapegoat.
• 1:12:39
  So the priest would confess the sins of the people over the
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  first goat and slit its neck, and it would be slaughtered as a
• 1:12:47
  substitute for the forgiveness of sins.
• 1:12:49
  The second goat was the scapegoat.
• 1:12:51
  The priest would name the sins of the people and then send it
• 1:12:55
  away, and it would run off into the wilderness, and the people
• 1:12:58
  would cheer because their sins were taken away.
• 1:13:03
  And for most people. They know that they're forgiven,
• 1:13:06
  but they still think that they're dirty and unclean and
• 1:13:08
  defiled. So the Bible uses all these
• 1:13:11
  words of defilement, uncleanness, it says in Genesis
• 1:13:17
  34, it's the first overt reference to a sexual assault
• 1:13:22
  victim in the Bible. It says that Dinah was defiled.
• 1:13:27
  And so sin makes us unclean, dirty, defiled.
• 1:13:31
  And So what happens often times, particularly with a woman when
• 1:13:35
  she is sexually assaulted, defiled.
• 1:13:38
  The first thing that a rape victim usually does, in my
• 1:13:41
  experience as their pastor is they go take a shower and what
• 1:13:46
  they're. Looking for is.
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  Cleansing not just of the body, but of the soul.
• 1:13:50
  Well, the soul can only get cleansed by the Holy Spirit.
• 1:13:53
  And so, you know, in the Bible, this is the cleansing power of
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  the Holy Spirit to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
• 1:14:03
  This is where like in the Book of Revelation, it says that that
• 1:14:09
  in the end, when Jesus has the wedding supper of the lamb in
• 1:14:13
  Revelation 19 says that Jesus is the grim and the church is the
• 1:14:16
  bride. And it says that the bride wears
• 1:14:19
  white and. And and.
• 1:14:21
  It symbolizes not only is is the bride forgiven, but is made
• 1:14:26
  clean and is cleansed from all unrighteousness.
• 1:14:30
  And so I, I told this gal as I was, as I was meeting with her,
• 1:14:33
  I said, you're not just forgiven, you're clean.
• 1:14:38
  And your identity. Is not dirty like your grandpa
• 1:14:41
  said, it's clean like Jesus said, I said, so Jesus sees you
• 1:14:46
  as wearing white. You're a bride that gets to wear
• 1:14:49
  white and you get to wear white on your wedding day.
• 1:14:51
  And I, I was trying to get her to see her identity through
• 1:14:55
  Christ and through his work. And there's this beautiful for
• 1:14:58
  those that maybe want to study, I think it's in Zechariah 3.
• 1:15:01
  There's this profound prophetic image where there is, there is
• 1:15:07
  Jesus. He's prefigured.
• 1:15:10
  And it says that that he, he's, he's standing next to someone
• 1:15:15
  who's guilty. And it says that he takes all of
• 1:15:19
  their, their garments. They're just filthy.
• 1:15:21
  They're just covered in filth and sin and, you know, feces and
• 1:15:28
  just disgust. And he, he takes their outer
• 1:15:31
  robe off and Jesus puts it on himself.
• 1:15:36
  And then he's wearing pure clean white and he takes his outer
• 1:15:40
  robe off and he puts it on them and and that's the gospel that
• 1:15:45
  Second Corinthians 521 God made him who knew no sin to become
• 1:15:49
  sin so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
• 1:15:52
  Martin Luther called that the great exchange.
• 1:15:53
  So all of that to say, when you're dealing with gals like
• 1:15:56
  this usually. There's a profound.
• 1:15:59
  Trauma, there's a significant abuse and, or there's a sin that
• 1:16:04
  they have committed that is guilt and shame ridden and
• 1:16:07
  they've just adopted it as an identity.
• 1:16:10
  But there's something in them that still feels guilty and
• 1:16:14
  shameful and they're wanting to do something superstitious or
• 1:16:18
  they're wanting to do something religious to try and fix it, but
• 1:16:22
  they, they don't understand. And so then when the pastor is,
• 1:16:26
  well, I'll give you a religious ritual and you go back to your
• 1:16:30
  old identity and job. They have absolutely, completely
• 1:16:35
  failed to love and serve that woman.
• 1:16:38
  That that's what it feels like a.
• 1:16:39
  Total failure. It is a complete and it's a.
• 1:16:41
  And it is a complete and total failure because now I don't know
• 1:16:44
  how many million other women are watching that You had an
• 1:16:47
  opportunity to teach them all that there is forgiveness and
• 1:16:49
  cleansing in Jesus Christ, and you had an opportunity to then
• 1:16:53
  pound the nail to all the men who watch that.
• 1:16:56
  But if they claim Christ, what they're doing is adultery of the
• 1:17:00
  heart and they're perpetuating abuse of women.
• 1:17:03
  Yep, 100%. And then?
• 1:17:04
  I think most, the really sad part here is most Christians are
• 1:17:08
  going to attack her because she's doing pornography and
• 1:17:10
  these things. She's a non Christian.
• 1:17:12
  She was never discipled. She was never the gospel is
• 1:17:14
  never shared with her. So if you're going to attack
• 1:17:17
  anyone, attack this church and this pastor if he gave her the
• 1:17:20
  pulpit on the weekend. It would be his fault, not hers.
• 1:17:22
  Yep, 100%. 100% Well, thank you, Pastor Mark.
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  I think that's a really good place to end it.
• 1:17:29
  A good word for young women that may be struggling with this, or
• 1:17:33
  I know that's what predators do, is they put shame and guilt on a
• 1:17:38
  young child and then that young child carries it the rest of
• 1:17:40
  their life. So I think that could be very
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  healing. So thank you for that.
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  And for those of you online, we just want to let you know Pastor
• 1:17:48
  Mark just dropped a brand new series, the Exodus series on the
• 1:17:52
  10 Commandments. This is going to include, we
• 1:17:54
  have sermons, we have a study guide, we have daily
• 1:17:57
  devotionals, and we have a new book that he's going to release
• 1:17:59
  chapter by chapter every single week.
• 1:18:01
  You're going to write it live. It's going to be awesome.
• 1:18:04
  And you can actually send questions and feedback and
• 1:18:07
  whatever you're thinking while he's writing this book and help
• 1:18:11
  shape some of the chapters. So if you text Moses to 99383,
• 1:18:16
  that's Moses to 99383. We'll send you a link to get the
• 1:18:19
  app and all of that is on there digitally.
• 1:18:21
  And when the book, when the series is done, there will be a
• 1:18:25
  complete book and that'll get published.
• 1:18:28
  So if you guys want to join in, we would love it.
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  And if not, thanks for joining the Mark Driscoll Show today.
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