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Bengals Booth Podcast: The Rising · Bengals Booth Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading
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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The come on up for the rise.
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Speaker 1: In addition, as the AFC North champion Bengals look to
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Speaker 1: end their thirty one year drought without a playoff win
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Speaker 1: as they host the Las Vegas Raiders. Coming up, I'll
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Speaker 1: talk to the delightful k Adams from Good Morning Football
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Speaker 1: on the NFL Network. She'll tell us why she predicted
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Speaker 1: that the Bengals would be a playoff team back in July.
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Speaker 1: My one on one player interview is with c j Uzama,
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Speaker 1: who reveals who came up with the nickname Joey Franchise
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Speaker 1: for Joe Burrow. Dave Lapham joins me to look at
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Speaker 1: some of the key matchups on Saturday and did our
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Speaker 1: know the faux segment, we'll hear from Charles Davis from
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Speaker 1: CBS Sports, who called five Raiders games on TV this year,
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Speaker 1: including the Bengals Raiders game in Week eleven. The Bengals
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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning breaking down video of Joe Burrow, the former
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Speaker 1: Colton Broncos quarterback, host a show for ESPN Plus called
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Speaker 1: Detail where he does a deep dive into quarterback play,
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Speaker 1: and Manning recently did a twenty five minute segment looking
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Speaker 1: at Joe Burrow's performance against San Francisco. It's tremendous, not
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Speaker 1: only explaining many of the traits that make Burrow great,
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Speaker 1: but also highlighting the play design and play calling expertise
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Speaker 1: of Zach Taylor and Brian Callahan. You need an ESPN
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Speaker 1: Plus subscription to watch it, but between that show and
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Speaker 1: NFL Turning Point and Tom Brady's Man in the Arena,
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Speaker 1: I think the cost is well worth it. Now let's
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Speaker 1: get to my guests, beginning with a TV host who
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Speaker 1: has become very popular among Bengals fans. She is one
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Speaker 1: of the hosts of my favorite football show on TV,
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Speaker 1: and she made an exceptional ruler of the Jungle at
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Speaker 1: Paul Brown Stadium several weeks ago. The NFL networks k
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Speaker 1: Adams k way back in July, you called it, you
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Speaker 1: predicted that the Bengals would be a playoff team this year.
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Speaker 1: What did you see that so many others missed? I
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Speaker 1: think what I saw two album. I'm just gonna be
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Speaker 1: completely honest with you. It was people not picking the Bengals,
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Speaker 1: and for no reason. It was very strange that they
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Speaker 1: were getting Nola. They have the quarterback, they have the
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Speaker 1: wide receiver, they're bringing chemistry in Trey Hendrickson was assigning
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Speaker 1: that I loved because I've studied the Saints very closely
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Speaker 1: last year and loved when he did there. And just
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Speaker 1: about Joe Burrow just sort of won me over the
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Speaker 1: fact that he is cool under pressure. I didn't follow
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Speaker 1: his career at LSU college football. I don't have a
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Speaker 1: room in my heart for it as much as most
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Speaker 1: fans do. So really just through the draft process, we
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Speaker 1: handled himself. Post game, they had what it takes in
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Speaker 1: the recipes. It was definitely the cj Uzama Why not them?
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Speaker 1: And then I really loved the fan base because I
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Speaker 1: think the fan base is smart. They're hungry, but they're
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Speaker 1: not whiny, and I think this is a fan base
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Speaker 1: that is really riveted and enthusiastic and enjoying the moment,
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Speaker 1: and I hope it works out. So Joe Burrow and
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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase are getting a lot of the credit, and
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Speaker 1: deservedly so. They've been fantastic. But what about this team
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Speaker 1: do you think might be flying under the radar a
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Speaker 1: little bit? I mean, I'm just gonna go back to
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Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson because this was someone who had double digit
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Speaker 1: sacks with the Saints, and there is a lot the
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Speaker 1: narrative nationally was, Oh, that's because he's with Cam Jordan,
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Speaker 1: that's because he's you know, it's the Jajavian Clowney to
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Speaker 1: TJ wat effect or whatever it is, or a one
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Speaker 1: year one theer stack numbers can be misleading all of that,
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Speaker 1: and then you look at what he did. What a streak,
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Speaker 1: what pressure, what disruption he's putting on the opposing offenses.
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Speaker 1: It is so fun to watch and tremendous, and that's necessary,
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Speaker 1: especially this battle this weekend. I'm you know, if I
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Speaker 1: had to worry about the Bengals, it would of course
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Speaker 1: be protecting Joe, which we'll get into. But I just
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Speaker 1: think he's been such a force and he's been so great,
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Speaker 1: and he needs to get more national love. We're visiting
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Speaker 1: with Kay Adams from Good Morning Football. So a few
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Speaker 1: weeks ago you did a one on one interview with
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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase whenever you're Q and K interviews. What stood
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Speaker 1: out in that conversation, what really caught your ear? I appreciated,
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Speaker 1: you know, I love interviewing rookies because they're still honest, right,
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Speaker 1: they're not as they haven't gone through the media training
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Speaker 1: as much as veteran players have, so they say a
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Speaker 1: little bit more. And I really I thought he was
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Speaker 1: very genuine. I really they appreciated that he is honest
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Speaker 1: about wanting things for himself and for his team, and
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Speaker 1: that's okay. Players are usually I don't want the records.
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Speaker 1: I just want team wins. That's the company line. But
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Speaker 1: I think he wants it all and I could feel
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Speaker 1: the confidence he has that he can have it. We
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Speaker 1: talked a lot about his, of course development with his quarterback,
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Speaker 1: that chemistry, how much they add lib out there, and
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Speaker 1: he said that Joe Burrow holds him accountable. If they're
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Speaker 1: not communicating, he'll run to him and he'll say Joe,
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Speaker 1: what am I doing? And Joe will let him have
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Speaker 1: it and let him go and I liked it that
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Speaker 1: he said that communication is still something that they're working
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Speaker 1: on week in, week out. I thought that was impressive.
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Speaker 1: They're not complacent. They're not you know, we've been here,
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Speaker 1: we've done this, We've won a national championship where you know,
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Speaker 1: we're just skating and getting paid here in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: It means something to him, which I love. And the
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Speaker 1: craziest thing he told me, which I stopped the interview,
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Speaker 1: he told me that I haven't seen a good catch.
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Speaker 1: He basically said, I said, what have it? I've said,
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Speaker 1: you're doing all this crazy stuff yards after catch, You're
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Speaker 1: speedy're amazing. And this is before, of course his monster performance.
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Speaker 1: But he said, he's like, I just I got to
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Speaker 1: get to that like Tyler Boyd level. I need to
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Speaker 1: get to these like you know Odell kind of catches.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, there's more, there's more to the show.
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Speaker 1: Sign me up. I can't wait. He is setting the
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Speaker 1: bar really, really high, that's for sure. Was there a
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Speaker 1: point this year where the Bengals went from fun, exciting,
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Speaker 1: entertaining team to being a legitimate contender In your opinion,
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Speaker 1: that went over the Chiefs absolutely sealed the deal. You know,
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Speaker 1: I always take the temperature on before games. What is
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Speaker 1: this game going to do to change how I feel?
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Speaker 1: That was a big whopping win that said, hey, we're
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Speaker 1: not here, We're not a one hit wonder. The problem
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Speaker 1: with sports media in the NFL and covering it, it's
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Speaker 1: a lazy take that the narrative can't change. The narrative changes.
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Speaker 1: The Rams get rid of Fisher, they bring in Sean McVay,
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Speaker 1: they get their quarterback in Jared Goff now Matthew Stafford,
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Speaker 1: and the entire complexion of the franchise changes. There's ups
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Speaker 1: and there's down downs, and the Bengals are just they're
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Speaker 1: on their way up. So the Bengals are AFC North champs.
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Speaker 1: The next hurdle is to win a playoff game. What
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Speaker 1: are a couple of keys in your opinion, to knocking
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Speaker 1: off the Raiders on Saturday. So the way I look
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Speaker 1: at this is that they're both inexperienced teams, both quarterbacks,
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Speaker 1: Both teams have equal pressure to deliver wins to their
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Speaker 1: respective fan bases who are expecting them, excited for them,
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Speaker 1: riveted by them. I'm sure it's what you guys have
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Speaker 1: been talking about week in, week out. Me, these two
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Speaker 1: teams faced each other, Joe mix in the huge part
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Speaker 1: of that game plan. Max Crosby is terrifying. And I
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Speaker 1: know if you look at the staff numbers, they weren't
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Speaker 1: there against Joe Burrowing company. But he was everywhere. I
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Speaker 1: went back when we were watching the game a couple
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Speaker 1: of days ago, because I'm a sick pup who's watching
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Speaker 1: the game time and he but his pressure was everywhere.
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Speaker 1: He's incredible. I mean eight sacks this season, Yannick and Goquay.
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Speaker 1: He was a monster and a problem for Burrow because
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Speaker 1: of Max Crosby's presence. I've spoken to Yannik and Gokway
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Speaker 1: about how they work in tandem and how they're one
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Speaker 1: of the past best pass rushing duo. So it's it's
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Speaker 1: trite and it's the usual Bromoken record, but can you
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Speaker 1: protect your quarterback? I don't want to see that nameplate
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Speaker 1: flying if it flies where I think that, I just
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Speaker 1: don't want to see that. So you know, disruption is
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Speaker 1: production and those are two of the better ones to
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Speaker 1: do it. But and remember and Goqua has been to
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Speaker 1: this dance. Twenty seventeen, Jags went to the AFC Championship
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Speaker 1: game had a tremendous season down there with Jacksonville, so
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Speaker 1: he's been there and bring some experience to it too,
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Speaker 1: So can you protect him? And I'll say the other thing,
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Speaker 1: crowd noise. You heard your coach talk about it. I
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Speaker 1: was there, I had the time of my life. And
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Speaker 1: since I think everyone in the world knows I had
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Speaker 1: the time of my life in Cincinnati, it has to
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Speaker 1: be that same energy. I can't tell you how many
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Speaker 1: NFL players I've talked to over the years and I say,
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Speaker 1: talk to it like I don't believe in home field,
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Speaker 1: like tell like why should I care? And a lot
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Speaker 1: of them say that they can feel nervousness, they can
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Speaker 1: feel every pension they can, if not just decibel levels
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Speaker 1: that people are that you know, players are picking up on.
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Speaker 1: I thought that was so interesting, and a lot of
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Speaker 1: guys have said this. So I need the Bengals fan
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Speaker 1: base to show up. Don't give your tickets to the
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Speaker 1: Raiders because they travel and they will come in there
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Speaker 1: and try to invade and make it not cute, and
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Speaker 1: I don't want to see that. But I think that
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Speaker 1: there's a level of when things cross out like inexperience
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Speaker 1: and you know, across the board, firepower or whatever momentum.
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Speaker 1: They both have it on both sides. Things like that
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Speaker 1: really matter. It's going from playing indoors in Vegas to
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Speaker 1: playing outside in Cincinnati where I have to like have
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Speaker 1: electric can ormers and forty degree weather. I don't even
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Speaker 1: know if the conditions will be I notall be cold,
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Speaker 1: crowd noise is going to be huge, but also maintaining
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Speaker 1: just the support the supportive vibe I would say to
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Speaker 1: put out there. It sounds kind of cheesy, but I
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Speaker 1: think there's something to it. All right, Bengals fans, you
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Speaker 1: heard it from K. Bring the noise, be supportive for
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Speaker 1: all sixteen minutes. That's important in a playoff game final
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Speaker 1: follow up for k Adams from Good Morning Football, you
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Speaker 1: mentioned you had the time of your life you came here.
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Speaker 1: What were the highlights of your ruler of the jungle
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Speaker 1: visit and how can we persuade you to come back? Oh?
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Speaker 1: I'll come back, And I mean I bother Seth Tanner
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Speaker 1: like every other day, like I miss Blackburn, I would
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Speaker 1: gladly come back and hang out with you. Elizabeth Is,
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Speaker 1: She'll have her time on Good Morning Football where I
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Speaker 1: explain from my vantage point, what she has meant to
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Speaker 1: that organization and what she has done to improve the
10:27
Speaker 1: fan experience and just to open things up a little bit.
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Speaker 1: I loved meeting her. One of the people I probably
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Speaker 1: loved meeting in the past year the most. Meeting Marissa
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Speaker 1: was incredible as well, and for just very passionate fans.
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Speaker 1: Greater's ice cream was delicious. I tried at the Blackburn's tailgate.
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Speaker 1: I tried some chili. I thought I ate it all.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was great. I think it's just the enter.
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Speaker 1: It's just excitement. But it's not like entitled excitement. It's
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Speaker 1: it's not shoved in your face. We have this. It's
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Speaker 1: not me. It's just excited. And I just felt at
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Speaker 1: home there and I was so welcome. You fit right in.
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Speaker 1: It was great having you in town. We look forward
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Speaker 1: to your return and we appreciate your time today. Thank you, Kay,
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Good luck Up next this week's
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Speaker 1: one on one player conversation. There are only four current
11:18
Speaker 1: players who were on the team the last time the
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Speaker 1: Bengals were in the playoffs in twenty fifteen. Kevin Hubert, Clark,
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Speaker 1: Harris Trey Hopkins, who was on the practice squad at
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Speaker 1: bad time and tight end c J Uzama, who was
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Speaker 1: a fifth round draft pick that year. I spoke to
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Speaker 1: CJ this week. CJ and your rookie year. The Bengals
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Speaker 1: started eight no and went to the playoffs, and it's
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Speaker 1: taken you six years to get back. What does this
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Speaker 1: playoff trip mean to you? Personally means everything? You know.
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Speaker 1: After the game against Kansas City, I got briefly got
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Speaker 1: pretty emotional just thinking about how tough it's been. You know,
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Speaker 1: that's what you fight for, that's why you play, That's
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Speaker 1: why you go through what you go through during seasons,
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Speaker 1: and you know, just for an opportunity. You know, you
12:07
Speaker 1: want to get into the playoffs. You want to have
12:08
Speaker 1: an opportunity um in January and February to win a
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So man, it it means the world. It
12:15
Speaker 1: means the world to me. It means the world to
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Speaker 1: this team to be able to m have that opportunity
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Speaker 1: to go out there, put our best foot forward and
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Speaker 1: you know, achieve everything that we wanted to achieve since
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Speaker 1: the side of the season. Back in August, at the
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Speaker 1: beginning of training camp, you famously said why not us
12:32
Speaker 1: A Senate could have responded with because you guys only
12:35
Speaker 1: won four games last year. But what did you see
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Speaker 1: at that early stage that made you think this team
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Speaker 1: was legit? I mean, just the talent we have. And
12:45
Speaker 1: and like you said, when when I say that, a
12:47
Speaker 1: senate can look and say, Okay, well yeah, but you
12:49
Speaker 1: guys are young, you have this, you have this, but
12:51
Speaker 1: but and just say a bunch of different things. But
12:53
Speaker 1: you know, the way that I saw it, the way
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Speaker 1: that I saw the pieces that we added, the way
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Speaker 1: that I saw you know, the new guys come in,
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Speaker 1: the way that I saw us just vibing and clicking
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Speaker 1: as a team. Um, and the potential that we had.
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Speaker 1: I was like, I mean everyone's gonna say there's gonna
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Speaker 1: be daughters for sure. Um, there's gonna be hiccups, there's
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Speaker 1: gonna be bumps in the road. But why can't we
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Speaker 1: go out there and prove all these people wrong? You know,
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Speaker 1: we know what we have in this locker room and
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Speaker 1: outside noises just that. So um yeah, that's kind of
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Speaker 1: uh what when what my thought process was? And um,
13:23
Speaker 1: it's kind of holding true. Right now we're chatting with
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Speaker 1: c j Uzama. You've become the guy who leads the
13:29
Speaker 1: hood date chat in the locker room after wins. How
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Speaker 1: did that happen? And do you consider it a position
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Speaker 1: of honor? Oh? For sure, I think it's awesome. Um,
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Speaker 1: I think it's amazing. You know, after after a win,
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Speaker 1: I get to go out there and lead the team.
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Speaker 1: And man, uh after the first win, UM coach just said,
13:48
Speaker 1: I see j come on lead us in there. I
13:51
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'll been. Uh yeah. I think to me,
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Speaker 1: it's it's awesome to be able to to you know,
13:58
Speaker 1: if I have a few words to say to the boys,
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Speaker 1: I can Sam and Um break it down and UM
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Speaker 1: see the boys kind of hype me up when I
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Speaker 1: get up there. It's it's also I think, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: think it's a position of bonafa shure. I'm elated that
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Speaker 1: I get to do that this year. So you faced
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Speaker 1: the Raiders on Saturday, a team with great edge rushers
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Speaker 1: and Max Crosby who leads the NFL with one hundred
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Speaker 1: quarterback pressures that's fourteen more than anybody else and unique
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Speaker 1: in gok Way who has ten sacks. Do you go
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Speaker 1: into the game thinking we can't let those guys wreck
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Speaker 1: the game. As as you go into a game like this,
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Speaker 1: you you know who they're who their key guys are.
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Speaker 1: You know what they're trying to do to get those
14:37
Speaker 1: guys freed up and put in favorable positions and um,
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Speaker 1: and then you got someone like Denzel Perriman in the back,
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Speaker 1: you know as a linebacker, who you're like, Okay, well
14:45
Speaker 1: we have to account for this guy too, and and
14:47
Speaker 1: you know they have they have secondary of guys that
14:49
Speaker 1: just fly around the ball. So yeah, obviously you're you're
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Speaker 1: going into it thinking okay, nice, like we we know
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Speaker 1: what the what they present and we're gonna have to
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Speaker 1: handle and adjust are lee or um, you know, try
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Speaker 1: to try to be able to attack certain areas. Um.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, you you definitely don't want those those guys
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Speaker 1: on the edge getting getting going early, getting there, you know,
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Speaker 1: hearing their energy going and and thinking they're just kind
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Speaker 1: of a field day out there. So um, we got
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Speaker 1: to get after them and the defense very very early
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Speaker 1: and very quickly. I know, you respect guys that excel
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Speaker 1: at your position. What makes Darren Waller one of the
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Speaker 1: best man. Uh, the respect I have to for him
15:31
Speaker 1: has grown exponentially. Um, you know, especially after hearing his
15:35
Speaker 1: story at tight end, you and um getting just spent
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Speaker 1: some time with him and talking football with him and
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Speaker 1: then just talking life with him. I have the utmost
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Speaker 1: respect for him. Um, but him as a player, he's
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Speaker 1: a I mean, he's a dinosaur, you know, he's he's
15:49
Speaker 1: one of those guys where it's like they don't they
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Speaker 1: don't really they don't make him like that too alt
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Speaker 1: and um, and it's just i mean just his speed,
15:56
Speaker 1: the way that he sees the game, the way that
15:57
Speaker 1: he can he can dissect defenses and and you know,
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Speaker 1: picking his brain about how he runs routes against certain coverages.
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Speaker 1: It's it's it's unique. You know, he's able to attack
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Speaker 1: leverages and and find openings and if there's not really
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Speaker 1: that big of an opening, he's he's a dinosaur, so
16:11
Speaker 1: he can go make a play. So, um yeah, as
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Speaker 1: a player, he's he's he's pretty unique. We're chatting with
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Speaker 1: cjus when you're in the huddle with Joe Burrow on Saturday,
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Speaker 1: Well you be able to tell by his demeanor that
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Speaker 1: it's a playoff game. No, No, I don't think so.
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Speaker 1: I don't think. I think that's something that's Um, that's
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Speaker 1: kind of unique about the team is we don't really
16:37
Speaker 1: let the moment get too big. We know what's at stake,
16:39
Speaker 1: we know what we have to get done. I mean,
16:41
Speaker 1: we knew what happened, and for the Kansas City game,
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Speaker 1: we knew it was on the line for that right,
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Speaker 1: and we just go out there and when we're in
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Speaker 1: the huddle, we're just I mean, we're the boys out
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Speaker 1: there just having a good time and um making place.
16:52
Speaker 1: And that's what you want. You don't want someone. You
16:54
Speaker 1: don't want to look around and see someone who's kind
16:56
Speaker 1: of like, oh, dear in the headlights are oh this
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Speaker 1: is this is a huge moment. You don't want the
16:59
Speaker 1: moment to be to be too big for someone. And um,
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Speaker 1: I don't think we have that in our in our huddle,
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Speaker 1: we just have a bunch of guys who are like nice,
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Speaker 1: Like when my numbers called, if Joe throws me the ball,
17:09
Speaker 1: if Joe hands off the ball, if we have to
17:10
Speaker 1: make this block, we're gonna make the block. That's just
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Speaker 1: that's how it is, um, And that's that's it makes
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Speaker 1: it fun, you know, it makes being him a huddle
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Speaker 1: and playing that much more fun. So yeah, I don't think, uh,
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be like a nerve factor
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Speaker 1: going on. You're the first person that I remember that
17:30
Speaker 1: referred to him as Joey Franchise. Did you coin the nickname?
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Speaker 1: I would be honest, Uh, it was. It was James
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Speaker 1: Casey but said it the first time, and I was like, franchise,
17:42
Speaker 1: that's such a that money. So I'd say the Tide
17:45
Speaker 1: Ending Room coin that because I hadn't heard anybody say
17:47
Speaker 1: it until then. Um, and then we just started saying it.
17:50
Speaker 1: It was just something that the tidden't started saying, and
17:52
Speaker 1: then it started picking up. So I'm gonna I'm gonna
17:54
Speaker 1: give the credit where credits to do with Coach Casey,
17:56
Speaker 1: even though he's gonna be like I don't want the credit. Um,
17:59
Speaker 1: but the tight ends. The tight ends for sure, and
18:02
Speaker 1: probably me in particular afterwards, because I was just like
18:05
Speaker 1: Joey Franchise, joe in his in in my phone, his
18:08
Speaker 1: name is Joey Franchise and it's it's bad because I
18:12
Speaker 1: tried to text him. I try to type in Burrow
18:14
Speaker 1: and I was like, where is his name? I can't
18:16
Speaker 1: fund it And I had to text him and be like, dude,
18:18
Speaker 1: I got to change your name in my phone because
18:20
Speaker 1: it's under franchise and I'm gonna forget that every time.
18:23
Speaker 1: So um but yeah, that's that's where that came about.
18:27
Speaker 1: That is the greatest nugget of all time. He is
18:29
Speaker 1: Joey franchise in your phone. That's great, all right, the
18:32
Speaker 1: last thing we know at this time of the year
18:35
Speaker 1: that your body probably doesn't feel great. Was it like
18:39
Speaker 1: an unexpected bonus to be able to get the final
18:43
Speaker 1: game of the regular season off to prepare for this.
18:47
Speaker 1: I mean, how great was that? Though? Kind of right
18:49
Speaker 1: like that was you know, it's it's uh. I had
18:52
Speaker 1: mixed emotions kind of as well, to be completely honest,
18:55
Speaker 1: because I really wanted to play against the Browns, and
18:57
Speaker 1: you know that that was, Um, it was funny to
19:01
Speaker 1: me and kind of um ironic that the hotel room
19:05
Speaker 1: that I had was the same hotel room that I
19:07
Speaker 1: had last year. The you know, I went over to
19:08
Speaker 1: the spot where I told my achilles last year, and
19:10
Speaker 1: I was like, dang, like it would be it would
19:12
Speaker 1: be kind of nice to be able to play and um,
19:15
Speaker 1: kind of like self fulfilling to to be able to
19:18
Speaker 1: play on this field again. But I'm not going to complain,
19:21
Speaker 1: like I feel like I feel so much better taking
19:23
Speaker 1: you know, getting some time off, getting getting a chance
19:25
Speaker 1: to rest and not go through a full game. Um,
19:28
Speaker 1: you know, talking to the other time and talking talking
19:30
Speaker 1: to Mitch. Mitch was like, man, I'm feeling this right now,
19:33
Speaker 1: Like that was his first time and since preseason where
19:35
Speaker 1: he was banging the entire game. So um yeah, definitely was.
19:39
Speaker 1: It was a nice Uh, it was a nice treat
19:41
Speaker 1: for sure to get that one off. I hope you
19:43
Speaker 1: are leading a who Day chant Saturday night after a
19:46
Speaker 1: playoff victory over the Raiders. Congrats, had a great season
19:49
Speaker 1: to date, best of luck in round one. Thank you
19:52
Speaker 1: very much, appreciate it. How great is it that CJ
19:56
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Speaker 1: Now they faced the Raiders, a team they beat in
20:37
Speaker 1: Las Vegas thirty two to thirteen. In late November. I
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Speaker 1: discussed the upcoming rematch with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham Lap.
20:47
Speaker 1: I want to start with something that I don't think
20:49
Speaker 1: is getting enough attention, and that is the fact that
20:51
Speaker 1: Quentin Spain has been a full participant at practice this week.
20:55
Speaker 1: He's a gigantic man who was taken to the locker
20:58
Speaker 1: room on a cart less than two weeks ago. What
21:01
Speaker 1: does his now it appears likely return mean to the
21:04
Speaker 1: team Huge presence, you know literally in figuratively, I mean
21:09
Speaker 1: he is a massive human being, big broad shoulders and
21:13
Speaker 1: just very strong, strong hands and risks and quems vice
21:18
Speaker 1: gript kind of guy and very high football IQ, real,
21:22
Speaker 1: real smart. Nothing fools him out in the football field.
21:25
Speaker 1: He's seen every defensive configuration, every blitz package. I think
21:30
Speaker 1: he's a calming influence out there for the young players
21:33
Speaker 1: as well as a physical presence that I know. I know,
21:38
Speaker 1: for example, Joe Mixon's happy that he's gonna be playing
21:40
Speaker 1: in this football game, and uh, it's QUSA. He's a
21:44
Speaker 1: tough guy and not surprised that he's he's going to
21:48
Speaker 1: give it a go. And the thing is, though, with
21:52
Speaker 1: those ankle injuries, you just never know, I mean, you
21:55
Speaker 1: just turn wrong, you're in a pile the wrong way,
21:57
Speaker 1: and sometimes they can they can exascerbate themselves pretty quickly.
22:03
Speaker 1: So Jackson Carman still better be ready. And the fact
22:06
Speaker 1: that he's gotten the snaps that he's gotten and performed
22:08
Speaker 1: well for the most part with a lot of those snaps,
22:11
Speaker 1: I think he's an encouraging thing. They've already got two
22:14
Speaker 1: inexperienced guys in the starting line up the offensive line
22:17
Speaker 1: in Isaiah Prince and acam Identagy. Not having three to me,
22:22
Speaker 1: it seems like a pretty big deal. I agree. And
22:24
Speaker 1: I'll tell you another guy that I thought looked pretty
22:26
Speaker 1: darn good out there at left tackling. I'm wondering if
22:29
Speaker 1: you can play right tackle. Deante Smith played well. I
22:33
Speaker 1: mean that guy, he's got really good feat he's got length,
22:36
Speaker 1: he's got good hands. I mean he got hurt at
22:39
Speaker 1: the wrong time, unfortunately for him, because he was making
22:41
Speaker 1: a move he was. He was the guy. I think
22:43
Speaker 1: that Frank Pollock, he was on a fast track to
22:47
Speaker 1: get some snaps and get some playing time. But injuries
22:50
Speaker 1: can curtail those kind of things, and it did unfortunately
22:52
Speaker 1: for Deante. But I think he's he's back physically and
22:57
Speaker 1: now can he catch up with everything. You know, you
22:59
Speaker 1: missed so many reps. You missed the mental part of
23:03
Speaker 1: it as well as the physical part of it. You
23:05
Speaker 1: can keep up with the mental part of it obviously easier,
23:07
Speaker 1: but there's nothing like being out in the field from
23:10
Speaker 1: a mental standpoint. You know, you think you have it
23:12
Speaker 1: figured out. When you're out there and it's full, full
23:15
Speaker 1: tilt and live bullets, sometimes it looks a lot different.
23:18
Speaker 1: All right, Let's stick with Bengals offensive line versus Raiders
23:21
Speaker 1: defensive line. In this playoff game, Max Crosby has eight
23:25
Speaker 1: sacks and more than one hundred quarterback pressures. He leads
23:28
Speaker 1: the NFL unique and Ghakway has ten sacks. They are
23:32
Speaker 1: going to be missing an excellent defensive tackle. Darius Filon
23:36
Speaker 1: suffered an injury in that finale against the Chargers, so
23:39
Speaker 1: he is definitely out. Do you look at Bengals offensive
23:42
Speaker 1: line versus Raiders defensive line as the biggest matchup question
23:47
Speaker 1: in this game. I look at it as a huge one,
23:50
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. I think honestly both lines
23:54
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. I think that the Raiders, in my opinion,
23:58
Speaker 1: have one really good player in Colton Miller. Everybody else
24:02
Speaker 1: just guys. And I'm sure that's what the Raiders think
24:04
Speaker 1: about the Cincinnati Bengals offensive line, just guys. So will
24:08
Speaker 1: there respective defensive fronts to be able to take advantage?
24:13
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at the matchup of the interior pass
24:18
Speaker 1: rushers that the Bengals have, the Ogan Jovies, J Hill,
24:22
Speaker 1: DJ Reader too getting pushed. I'm looking at them against
24:25
Speaker 1: those guards. I think the guards of the weak links
24:28
Speaker 1: of the offensive line, and I would think Lou and
24:30
Speaker 1: Rumo and company would have some pressure packages that would
24:33
Speaker 1: test and put those guards in conflict a little bit,
24:37
Speaker 1: walking linebackers up in gaps and twisting and studying and
24:40
Speaker 1: things of that nature. So I'm looking at that, and
24:43
Speaker 1: I'm also looking at, like you said, Dan, the flip
24:46
Speaker 1: side of it, the Bengals offensive line. Will they be
24:48
Speaker 1: able to handle those bookends, I mean Crosby and Gookway.
24:52
Speaker 1: That's a duel. I mean, that's a very very that's
24:54
Speaker 1: eighteen sacks combined from the two of those guys. In
24:59
Speaker 1: my mind, there's a million things you can do. You know,
25:03
Speaker 1: you can keep a tight end in, you can chip,
25:05
Speaker 1: you can slide the line. But quarterbacks has got to
25:08
Speaker 1: get the ball out of his hand quickly. I think
25:10
Speaker 1: that's another thing that you incorporate in the game plan
25:12
Speaker 1: and don't forget about draws and screens. That's that It's
25:17
Speaker 1: forever tested. Paul Brown, he would he would patrol the
25:20
Speaker 1: sideline and he'd be like, time for the draw. He'd say,
25:23
Speaker 1: he'd say to the play called time for the draw,
25:26
Speaker 1: because he could tell the pass rushers are just team
25:28
Speaker 1: and the draw would break bust for big yards. You know,
25:30
Speaker 1: he invented it. He invented the draw play with Marion
25:33
Speaker 1: Motley up there with the Cleveland Browns by accident. So
25:38
Speaker 1: I think draws and screens are gonna be a big,
25:40
Speaker 1: big factor. The Kansas City Chiefs hurt him badly with
25:44
Speaker 1: the screen game, throwing that screen game behind the pass rush.
25:47
Speaker 1: So there's a myriad of ways that you can slow
25:50
Speaker 1: that pass rush down, and the other way to do
25:52
Speaker 1: it get Joe Mixon going. I mean they finished that game.
25:55
Speaker 1: Grind and Joe Mixon in the second half nineteen carries
25:58
Speaker 1: for over one hundred yards in a touch. Get big
26:01
Speaker 1: twenty eight running inside outside, Get him just hammering that
26:05
Speaker 1: defensive football team and anchor them a little bit. Following
26:08
Speaker 1: up on that, thirty carries for one hundred and twenty
26:10
Speaker 1: three yards total in the first meeting, and Joe Burrow
26:13
Speaker 1: only threw for one hundred and forty eight yards. That's
26:15
Speaker 1: the fewest he's ever had in his twenty six NFL starts.
26:19
Speaker 1: So do you expect a similar formula on Saturday. I do,
26:23
Speaker 1: because you know, I think Gus Bradley is going to
26:26
Speaker 1: do the same thing. Gus Bradley, he does not load
26:30
Speaker 1: the box. He plays coverage. He has four guys and
26:33
Speaker 1: he can rely on to rush the passer in his mind.
26:36
Speaker 1: Now with injury, he might not have all four of
26:38
Speaker 1: those guys with the interior injury at defensive tackle, but
26:42
Speaker 1: I think he's still he's gonna he's gonna make sure
26:45
Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase don't throw it over
26:48
Speaker 1: their heads. You know that te Higgins doesn't throw it
26:50
Speaker 1: over the heads with Joe Burrow. I think they're gonna
26:53
Speaker 1: do play a lot of that cover three. And you
26:55
Speaker 1: know what he does. I think his biggest act is
27:01
Speaker 1: he gets guys to just really play hard for him,
27:04
Speaker 1: high energy, high enthusiasm, you know. I mean, they're they're
27:08
Speaker 1: just effort guys defensively, and he doesn't overload their minds.
27:12
Speaker 1: I mean, he keeps it real simple and they can
27:15
Speaker 1: play fast and they know his system cold. I think
27:18
Speaker 1: now though, at this stage in the playoffs, another thing
27:21
Speaker 1: another Paul Brown is that applies and I remember he
27:24
Speaker 1: said it when we were in the playoffs for the
27:26
Speaker 1: first time in nineteen thirty five. I can vividly see
27:28
Speaker 1: him up there in the front of the classroom saying, gentlemen,
27:32
Speaker 1: sometimes we have to make the same things look different
27:35
Speaker 1: and different things look the same. And that's exactly what
27:39
Speaker 1: you do. Now. You don't overhaul your systems. You tweak them.
27:43
Speaker 1: And it might be it's the same throw to the quarterback,
27:47
Speaker 1: but it might be instead of a slot receiver on
27:50
Speaker 1: a safety a by formation and window dressing him, might
27:53
Speaker 1: be a running back on a linebacker. Because you're, you know,
27:56
Speaker 1: you're you're putting your base people in there and you
27:57
Speaker 1: don't want sub packages in there. So the offense you
28:01
Speaker 1: can control it with personnel, with formations, with motion, with
28:05
Speaker 1: window dressing. So Paul Brown would be like, if we've
28:09
Speaker 1: got some concepts that have worked for us, worked for
28:11
Speaker 1: us in the first matchup. Sometimes you have to make
28:14
Speaker 1: the same things look different and different things look the same.
28:17
Speaker 1: And I think the game, the team that game plans
28:21
Speaker 1: that way, and then most importantly, the players that go
28:24
Speaker 1: out and execute best going to win the football game.
28:27
Speaker 1: By the way, as I mentioned, Burrow through four hundred
28:30
Speaker 1: and forty eight yards in Game one, the fewest he's
28:32
Speaker 1: ever thrown four in an NFL game. His three lowest
28:36
Speaker 1: yardage figures ever all wins at Vegas, at Denver, at
28:40
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh this year. Let's talk about the other quarterback, Derek Carr.
28:44
Speaker 1: He was decent in Game one, two and fifteen yards,
28:46
Speaker 1: one touchdown, one pick. For the season fourteenth in the
28:50
Speaker 1: NFL and passer rating fifth in passing yards, one spot
28:54
Speaker 1: ahead of Joe Burrow. What do you consider to be
28:56
Speaker 1: his strengths and his weaknesses. I think he has immense
29:01
Speaker 1: arm talent. I think he can make every throw there
29:03
Speaker 1: is to make. It's interesting, though, I heard Jack del
29:08
Speaker 1: Rio come out and say that he does not play
29:10
Speaker 1: well in cold weather, and that's his former head coach,
29:13
Speaker 1: so he has experience with it. So that would that
29:15
Speaker 1: kind of pert my ears a little bit when I
29:17
Speaker 1: when I heard that, But I think, I think what
29:21
Speaker 1: he does is sometimes tries to force the issue. We
29:24
Speaker 1: have so much confidence in that arm talent. I mean,
29:27
Speaker 1: he'll take a chance here and there so that he'll
29:32
Speaker 1: he'll put it up there for the defensive backs to intercept.
29:36
Speaker 1: And when he does, you have to take full advantage
29:38
Speaker 1: of it. You can't let one slip through your hands. Literally,
29:42
Speaker 1: you have to catch the football when he gives you
29:44
Speaker 1: that kind of an opportunity. The other thing with him
29:47
Speaker 1: is if you hit him, he gets deeply affected. Every
29:51
Speaker 1: quarterback is affected by pressure and by his but his
29:54
Speaker 1: is significant. I mean you can see him, you know,
29:58
Speaker 1: reacting in a much different way as a quarter back
30:00
Speaker 1: after he's been smacked a couple of times. So that's
30:02
Speaker 1: going to be a big factor. If they can get
30:05
Speaker 1: him off his spot and get hit him some and
30:09
Speaker 1: make him think about you have him see ghosts a
30:11
Speaker 1: little bit. Ghosts in the pocket, goes down the football field,
30:14
Speaker 1: have him see some of that stuff. I do think
30:17
Speaker 1: that in this football game here lately he has done
30:21
Speaker 1: a great job of creating an extending plays and throwing
30:23
Speaker 1: up fifty fifty balls and they've either caught him or
30:26
Speaker 1: get pass interference penalties. So he's made some big plays
30:29
Speaker 1: that way. Joe Burrow can do the same thing. I
30:32
Speaker 1: think this game a big factor might hinge on which
30:34
Speaker 1: quarterback is the most intelligent when they're creating and extending
30:38
Speaker 1: and not forcing but making, you know, making big plays
30:41
Speaker 1: down the football field and avoiding big mistakes down the
30:44
Speaker 1: football field. Let me follow up on the weather. The
30:47
Speaker 1: forecast for four to thirty on Saturday is in the
30:50
Speaker 1: high twenties. The current temperature in Las Vegas is in
30:53
Speaker 1: the mid sixties. So how big of an advantage do
30:56
Speaker 1: you think that is? I think it's I think it is.
30:59
Speaker 1: I think it's signific can um, I'm not sure that
31:02
Speaker 1: in the twenties for for linemen, that's not you know,
31:05
Speaker 1: that's not cruel and unusual punishment. I mean, you can
31:08
Speaker 1: handle that, um, But but I think for skill guys
31:12
Speaker 1: that that aren't used to that, that ball gets harder,
31:15
Speaker 1: it gets slicker. Like everybody talks about Um. You know,
31:20
Speaker 1: your hands or you know, can can get cold and
31:23
Speaker 1: get numb a little bit, and you have a hard
31:25
Speaker 1: ball hitting those those cold hands, it's a it's a
31:27
Speaker 1: totally different feeling. And then in the in the ball,
31:30
Speaker 1: it feels like it's coated with resin, you know, when
31:33
Speaker 1: it's when it's cold like that. It's weird how how
31:35
Speaker 1: the resin And I don't know why it migrates, but
31:38
Speaker 1: the resident seems to migrate to the surface of the football.
31:41
Speaker 1: It's crazy, Um, but I do think I think that's
31:44
Speaker 1: going to be a factor. And when you look at it,
31:47
Speaker 1: that influences ball security, you know, I mean, and you
31:50
Speaker 1: got to go high and tight big time when it's
31:53
Speaker 1: cold like that, because if you get hit in cold
31:56
Speaker 1: weather sometimes, you know, if you're hitting sixty degree weather,
32:00
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to grip that football a little
32:02
Speaker 1: bit better than you will when it's in the twenties
32:04
Speaker 1: and get hit like that, Like we talked about, the
32:06
Speaker 1: ball's harder, it's slicker, Your hands are cold, your arms
32:09
Speaker 1: are cold. It's a it's a much different dynamic that
32:11
Speaker 1: you've got to get used to that and you have
32:13
Speaker 1: to get a get a feel for that, and if
32:14
Speaker 1: you practice in it all week, you have a little
32:16
Speaker 1: bit better feeling then if you haven't. So I think
32:19
Speaker 1: all those things are going to be a factor. The
32:21
Speaker 1: one thing when I was researching the Raiders that stunned
32:24
Speaker 1: me six interceptions was dead last in the NFL six
32:29
Speaker 1: interceptions in seventeen games. And they have a really good
32:33
Speaker 1: front four you know, it's like, you know, they're getting
32:36
Speaker 1: more than a couple of sacks a game. Why isn't
32:38
Speaker 1: that transferring into more interceptions? They just haven't taken the
32:42
Speaker 1: football away very much. And it's because they haven't, you
32:44
Speaker 1: intercepted the ball very much. So Joe Burrows on a
32:47
Speaker 1: stretch where he hasn't thrown an interception for a long time,
32:51
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty six passes. I think it is
32:53
Speaker 1: something like that. So hopefully that continues. And so far
32:56
Speaker 1: they haven't shown much for a pensity to pick quarterbacks off.
33:00
Speaker 1: So a big storyline this week has obviously been the
33:02
Speaker 1: playoff drought, and I think people have kind of looked
33:05
Speaker 1: at it and said, these guys have nothing to do
33:08
Speaker 1: with that long stretch of futility and shouldn't be affected
33:11
Speaker 1: by it. But when the Bengals take the field on
33:14
Speaker 1: Saturday and every Bengals fan in attendance is yearning to
33:19
Speaker 1: end that streak. Do you think they'll feel it? Then
33:22
Speaker 1: that's a great question. I hope the fan base. I
33:28
Speaker 1: hope they have a sense of virgin urgency to get
33:30
Speaker 1: as loud as they possibly can. Because let's go back
33:34
Speaker 1: to the opener Dan the Minnesota game that the Bengals
33:37
Speaker 1: won an overtime. Minnesota had multiple false starts because of
33:41
Speaker 1: crowd noise playing a simple it was just flat out
33:44
Speaker 1: crowd noise. And we remember how loud it was we
33:48
Speaker 1: were in Vegas playing the Raiders. That place was that
33:51
Speaker 1: was off the hook. It was loud, man in that dome.
33:54
Speaker 1: They were going crazy. The Bengals handled it pretty well.
33:58
Speaker 1: It's Tessa Raiders and everybody come to that game full throat,
34:02
Speaker 1: loud and proud, and see when you can affect them
34:05
Speaker 1: a little bit. That's that's that's going to be a
34:07
Speaker 1: big factor in this football game. So if the fans
34:10
Speaker 1: are wondering how they can help make sure to end
34:14
Speaker 1: that streak that they're there, they've suffered through, do it
34:18
Speaker 1: by vocal cords. So I'm feeling pretty confident going into
34:24
Speaker 1: this game, and much of my confidence is rooted in
34:26
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, his track record in big games at his
34:29
Speaker 1: personality in general. Do you think that his teammates have
34:34
Speaker 1: that same feeling because of Joe, Yeah, I think he
34:38
Speaker 1: I think they follow his lead. I think he just
34:42
Speaker 1: rises to the occasion. I think he's one of those
34:44
Speaker 1: kind of guys that big stage time to go out
34:47
Speaker 1: and do your best. You know, don't shrink, shrink up
34:50
Speaker 1: like a shrinking violet. You know, go out there and
34:52
Speaker 1: be a star. Go out there and play. And that's
34:54
Speaker 1: the big thing too. Joe did a great job of that.
34:57
Speaker 1: The numbers you talked about his three career low yardage games,
35:01
Speaker 1: they won the football game. You don't have to play
35:03
Speaker 1: hero ball. Joe Burrow knows he doesn't have to play
35:06
Speaker 1: hero ball. He understands that totally. Jamara has to understand
35:09
Speaker 1: enough to play hero ball. Joe Mixon has to understand.
35:12
Speaker 1: Everybody has to understand. Do your job to the best
35:16
Speaker 1: that you possibly can. Don't try to do anything more
35:19
Speaker 1: than what you're supposed to do, but do what you're
35:21
Speaker 1: supposed to do at the highest level you possibly can
35:23
Speaker 1: do it, and then you're gonna win the football game,
35:26
Speaker 1: and that's in the playoffs. That's that's as big a
35:29
Speaker 1: factor as anything. Joe Burrow will be one of five
35:33
Speaker 1: quarterbacks making his first playoffs start this weekend. The Bengals
35:37
Speaker 1: will be facing another one in Derek Carr. Finally, it's
35:42
Speaker 1: time for this week's No The Faux Segment. Charles Davis,
35:45
Speaker 1: who calls NFL games on CBS with Ian Eagle, was
35:48
Speaker 1: in the booth for five Raiders games this year. He
35:51
Speaker 1: joined Lap in Wayne box Miller and the Bengals Game
35:54
Speaker 1: Plan Show and started by sharing what he likes about
35:58
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one Bengals. I like that this team
36:02
Speaker 1: has the air to it of we're just gonna do
36:04
Speaker 1: what we do the past. Okay, you guys can talk
36:08
Speaker 1: about it, but it's not going to define us. We're
36:10
Speaker 1: gonna take care of our own business. And when they
36:13
Speaker 1: had opportunities, you know, one of their breakthroughs was winning
36:16
Speaker 1: three in a row? Right when was the last time?
36:18
Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen? And that became a thing, didn't it. In fact,
36:21
Speaker 1: we had it. We had the Chargers game, one of
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Speaker 1: the times they were going for three in a row
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Speaker 1: and didn't get there. And Zach Taylor really emphasized, hey,
36:28
Speaker 1: let's get a breakthrough here, and it didn't happen. A
36:31
Speaker 1: lot of teams would just go away on that, a
36:33
Speaker 1: lot of teams would have more issues. They came back,
36:35
Speaker 1: battled their way and when they finally broke through and
36:37
Speaker 1: got three in a row Kansas City, that's a pretty
36:41
Speaker 1: strong one to make it make your move on. So
36:44
Speaker 1: I just like where this team is. And look, a
36:47
Speaker 1: second year quarterback in the old days didn't really take
36:51
Speaker 1: over a team. This young man took over the amenity
36:54
Speaker 1: he got drafted and now they really reflect to who
36:57
Speaker 1: he is. This is Joe Burrow kid. There's something really
36:59
Speaker 1: special about him. And when we sit in production meetings
37:02
Speaker 1: and all, he's not getting that. He doesn't have his
37:04
Speaker 1: feed up on and telling us tales and all that.
37:06
Speaker 1: He answers the question just fine, but you can tell
37:09
Speaker 1: he's all about business. You're right, Charles Manne, dude is
37:13
Speaker 1: laser focus, there's no question. And in today's National Football League,
37:18
Speaker 1: you have to have a quarterback. And they've got the
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Speaker 1: youngest duo in the history of the National Football League
37:24
Speaker 1: to have a thousand yards receiving in the same year
37:27
Speaker 1: and his man, Jamar Chase who he worked with at LSU,
37:30
Speaker 1: set a franchise record single season record fourteen hundred and
37:33
Speaker 1: fifty five yards. It's only fourth best in the league
37:36
Speaker 1: this year, even though it's a Bengals franchise record. That
37:39
Speaker 1: tells you what the league's like. But you, as a
37:41
Speaker 1: former defensive back and a good one, when you've got
37:45
Speaker 1: guys like Chase Higgins, Boyd, what kind of conflict does
37:50
Speaker 1: that cause you in the back end? Zama Mix? Yeah,
37:55
Speaker 1: I mean, just going right, It causes all kinds of
37:58
Speaker 1: conflict because if you want to kick coverage as a
38:01
Speaker 1: certain direction, if you're doing things you're guessing, you know,
38:04
Speaker 1: you're you're playing odds in a sense certain third downs.
38:08
Speaker 1: If you think that they'd like to go to a
38:10
Speaker 1: certain place on a third down, maybe you want to
38:12
Speaker 1: double one of those guys. But they all, every one
38:14
Speaker 1: of those guys can make you pay. That's the thing is.
38:17
Speaker 1: It's not like you take away certain people and guess what,
38:20
Speaker 1: the other guys aren't going to really sting you. You
38:22
Speaker 1: take away Chase, Okay, we send all of our coverage there.
38:26
Speaker 1: You really think Boyd and Higgins are going to light
38:28
Speaker 1: you up? They are. They've proven it time and time again.
38:31
Speaker 1: So with all those weapons, the plethora of things going on,
38:34
Speaker 1: and an offensive line, it's probably playing a little bit
38:37
Speaker 1: better than what you would you know, you would think
38:39
Speaker 1: in terms of how they might have been rated coming
38:41
Speaker 1: out where the talent level is all of that, you're
38:44
Speaker 1: putting together a pretty powerful group. And I can't wait
38:47
Speaker 1: to see them go at it on Saturday with the
38:49
Speaker 1: Raiders because both of them have been through their stuff
38:52
Speaker 1: this year and battled their way through the Bengals with
38:55
Speaker 1: a division titled the Raiders with a really unlikely playoff birth.
38:59
Speaker 1: Considering everything that's going on in Las Vegas this year,
39:02
Speaker 1: no doubt, you know, Charles Davis is I guess Charles,
39:04
Speaker 1: you watched a lot of football and talk about just
39:07
Speaker 1: how impressive it is. You bring in Trey Hendrickson, you
39:10
Speaker 1: bring in Von Bell, you know, you bring in a
39:13
Speaker 1: lot of new guys chitabey E Woozier, and these guys
39:17
Speaker 1: just seem to mess with the existing players. It's not
39:20
Speaker 1: that easy. Although people may think that, right, Yeah, you're
39:24
Speaker 1: exactly right. And I think what helps is that when
39:28
Speaker 1: these guys come in, they weren't coming into a place
39:31
Speaker 1: that it either had a ton of success or wasn't
39:35
Speaker 1: ready to ascend to it. They came in because, like
39:38
Speaker 1: Trey Henderson told us, he had a feeling about this place,
39:42
Speaker 1: you know, spent the time he bought into Zach Taylor
39:45
Speaker 1: was the last time you heard anyone around the league say,
39:47
Speaker 1: you know what I wanted to send. I really bought
39:48
Speaker 1: into their vision. Yeah, just don't hear that. So so
39:52
Speaker 1: so when Trey Henderson is saying that, and as focus
39:55
Speaker 1: as he is, it means something. And then you have
39:57
Speaker 1: guys who have had success both in the lead to
40:00
Speaker 1: in the pro level who have come over. Larry Ogan
40:03
Speaker 1: job's out of Charlotte. Okay, so no one's thought about
40:06
Speaker 1: his college success, but boys, he carved out a nice
40:08
Speaker 1: niche in the NFL being a starter in Cleveland and
40:11
Speaker 1: on a team that found its way into playoffs last year,
40:14
Speaker 1: and he helped, you know, make successful. I think one
40:17
Speaker 1: of the most underrated people on the staff is Marion Hobby.
40:20
Speaker 1: Now there's a lot of buy ins here. Okay, Marion
40:23
Speaker 1: and I played together at Tennessee, but he has won
40:26
Speaker 1: heck of a good football coach, I mean, and what
40:28
Speaker 1: he's done with that front. And you spend time with
40:31
Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard, you spend time with Trey Hendrickson, you spend
40:33
Speaker 1: time with Ogan Job, you spend time with any of
40:35
Speaker 1: the guys there. They willingly talk about what he gives them.
40:39
Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna leave you with this. Sam Hubbard
40:42
Speaker 1: compared him to Larry Johnson, the quintessential defensive line coach
40:45
Speaker 1: in college football Ohio State. And when an Ohio State
40:49
Speaker 1: Buckeye compares another d line coach with Larry Johnson, who
40:52
Speaker 1: is their godfather? Okay, the bosses go back in the
40:56
Speaker 1: offseason and spend time with Larry Johnson. Okay, And that
40:59
Speaker 1: if you want to know what it's all about. That's
41:01
Speaker 1: how I praise and that defensive front. They've done some
41:04
Speaker 1: work this year. Let me ask you a question about
41:08
Speaker 1: the Raiders. How do the Raiders have ten wins and
41:12
Speaker 1: seven losses when they were outscored by sixty five points.
41:16
Speaker 1: They've they're the thirty first most penalized team in the league,
41:20
Speaker 1: thirty second most penalty yards in the league. They've only
41:23
Speaker 1: got six interceptions on the season, last in the National
41:28
Speaker 1: Football League. They give up a touchdown defensively in the
41:30
Speaker 1: red zone eighty one point four percent of the time,
41:33
Speaker 1: last in the National Football League. But how the hell
41:36
Speaker 1: had they won ten games? What do you think, Charles,
41:38
Speaker 1: what's up with that? I don't know. Dave and our
41:44
Speaker 1: crew has had the Raiders five times this year, really,
41:47
Speaker 1: so we've seen them, and we've seen there's a toughness
41:50
Speaker 1: to them, there's a resilience to them. We saw them
41:53
Speaker 1: week two. Remember that Monday nighter that they had with
41:56
Speaker 1: Baltimore that was still two. Jo Car hit to Day
41:59
Speaker 1: Jones for a touchdown. They had to turn around short
42:01
Speaker 1: week and go to Pittsburgh the next week. Remember Pittsburgh
42:04
Speaker 1: could just beat Buffalo in the season opener, so they
42:06
Speaker 1: were feeling pretty good about themselves. They went up there
42:09
Speaker 1: and beat them on the road and got off to
42:11
Speaker 1: that great start. Our crew was in town when the
42:15
Speaker 1: John Gruden news broke. In fact, I was at practice
42:19
Speaker 1: and John said, Hey, can I talk to you for
42:21
Speaker 1: a minute, because I've known John for thirty five years,
42:24
Speaker 1: and told me what was about to go down. And
42:27
Speaker 1: that was the weekend they played the Bears, and the Bears,
42:29
Speaker 1: who were not very good, went in there and beat
42:31
Speaker 1: them because they were they were discombobulated. We were also there,
42:35
Speaker 1: I believe right after Henry Ruggs. Okay, we were there
42:39
Speaker 1: when Cincinnati took charge in the second half and ran
42:42
Speaker 1: them into submission, when Joe Mixon and crew beat them
42:45
Speaker 1: down because Zach Taylor said, if we just stayed with it,
42:47
Speaker 1: they will crack, and they did. How they've gotten ten wins.
42:51
Speaker 1: There's a lot of toughness. And Derek Carr is one
42:54
Speaker 1: of the most underrated guys going in terms of fortitude.
42:58
Speaker 1: He's a good player, all right, He probably doesn't get
43:00
Speaker 1: his due that way, but that guy really helped keep
43:03
Speaker 1: that locker room together with everything that went on, and
43:06
Speaker 1: that team actually does believe in him, and they've hit
43:08
Speaker 1: the right plays at the right times. This is like
43:11
Speaker 1: the old Peanuts cartoon strip but Charles Schultz where Lucy
43:15
Speaker 1: is getting all over Charlie Brown about his baseball team. Okay,
43:20
Speaker 1: and she's crushing him, and she's like, and you guys
43:23
Speaker 1: are lasting the league in this, and you're lasting the
43:24
Speaker 1: league and that blah blah blah, and your stats say this,
43:27
Speaker 1: and finally Charlie Brown says, Lucy, tell your statistics to
43:31
Speaker 1: shut up. That's kind of where the Raiders off. Just
43:35
Speaker 1: tell the statistic to shut up. We're just gonna show
43:37
Speaker 1: up and play. But I got a relentless pass rush.
43:40
Speaker 1: Now Crosby, you think a gock Way. They get after
43:44
Speaker 1: it and they create a little havoc back there. But
43:46
Speaker 1: the numbers they don't make sense. That's why I can't
43:49
Speaker 1: believe they only have six interceptions with that pass rush
43:52
Speaker 1: to only have six picks because those guys, yeah, they've
43:57
Speaker 1: got when they've got on the back end. You know
43:59
Speaker 1: when Nathan Abram is right. Dathan Abram is a box
44:02
Speaker 1: safety who can't cover. He's not a cover guy, I
44:06
Speaker 1: mean coming out of college. I love the fact that he,
44:09
Speaker 1: you know, like Burgess, Meredith said, Rocky, I'm knocking it tomorrow,
44:13
Speaker 1: rock Yeah, right, but but but but his coverage ability
44:17
Speaker 1: isn't very good. Trayvon Merrick is that high center field
44:20
Speaker 1: safety who's going to get better and better as time
44:23
Speaker 1: goes on. He's ranging Casey Hayward up there. But they
44:26
Speaker 1: are not super ballhawks, but they do a nice job
44:29
Speaker 1: keeping things and waiting for you to make a mistake.
44:32
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