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10-1 H4: Final Visit w/ Ryon Healy, NFL Chat w/ Mike Sando & One Last Thing · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: It's time for Chuck's weekly visit with Ryan Healy. Brought
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  Speaker 2: Nine o'clock hour here on this Thursday. Chuck Powell, Anders
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  Speaker 2: Hurst and our brand new producer. He is back. Christopher
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  Speaker 2: Kidd is with you as well. And so new beginnings
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  Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, but also today a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a see you soon. Not a goodbye, certainly,
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  Speaker 2: but a see you soon. It's our final official conversation
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  Speaker 2: with former Mariner. And now, you know, noted Mariner analyst
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  Speaker 2: here in town, Ryan Healy, is with us here on
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  Speaker 2: the radio program. Good morning, sir.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning. It's great to see you guys. You too.
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  Speaker 2: You had a serious scowl there for a while. I
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  Speaker 2: think you maybe were deep in thought. And I'm like, uh-oh,
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  Speaker 2: Ryan having a bad morning today. But no, no, you
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  Speaker 2: just lit up and your voice sounds full of life
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  Speaker 2: and energy.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no, I'm excited.
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  Speaker 4: There was a lot of drama in my house this morning.
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  Speaker 4: I was doing the solo morning show, and I love
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  Speaker 4: doing that. But the packing lunches, making breakfast, getting the
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  Speaker 4: kids dressed, trying to do my daughter's hair. It's a
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  Speaker 4: dogfight that I would compare to facing a pitcher like
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  Speaker 4: Edwin Diaz in the bottom of the ninth inning, honestly.
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  Speaker 4: It takes a lot of patience, a lot of focus,
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  Speaker 4: and overcoming adversity.
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  Speaker 2: What is your scouting grade when it comes to doing
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  Speaker 2: your daughter's hair? You know, 40's the low and 80's
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  Speaker 2: the high. I'm a one-trick pony. I'd say I probably
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  Speaker 2: give myself like a 50, 55. That's not bad. Mostly
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  Speaker 2: for the effort and the ability to keep my daughter
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  Speaker 2: calm when we're doing that because when my wife does it,
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  Speaker 2: like the first brush through her hair, she's like, ouch, mommy,
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  Speaker 2: that hurts.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't normally get that.
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  Speaker 4: But all I got is a ponytail, and I got
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  Speaker 4: to pack a little extra patience when.
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  Speaker 5: I do it.
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  Speaker 2: You're not making the French braid yet. You're not there.
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  Speaker 4: No, when she gets older, I definitely want to practice,
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  Speaker 4: but we're not at that age yet.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, unfortunately, we're not at the stage of
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  Speaker 2: being able to talk about a playoff game. It has
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  Speaker 2: stunk watching playoff baseball this week, knowing that the path
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  Speaker 2: was there, knowing that we felt we had the team
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  Speaker 2: to get there, and the season just didn't come together well.
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  Speaker 2: as admitted by all the players, Jerry DiPoto this week,
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  Speaker 2: Justin Hollander this week. So I'll just ask you the
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  Speaker 2: big overriding question. What went wrong? In Ryan Healy's mind,
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  Speaker 2: and you watched them closer than you've watched a Mariners
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  Speaker 2: team in quite some time, what went wrong this year?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'll obviously listen to a lot of press
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  Speaker 4: conferences and breakdowns of the front office personnel, the presser
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  Speaker 4: with Dan Wilson after Sunday's game, listened to Rick Riz
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  Speaker 4: as well. So there's so many motions and just information
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  Speaker 4: to process. And I think the overarching theme is that
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  Speaker 4: this brand of baseball that was played by the Mariners
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  Speaker 4: this season, 2026, was completely different than what we've become
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  Speaker 4: accustomed to with a team that really can pitch the ball,
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  Speaker 4: can really field the ball, doesn't give away extra bases,
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  Speaker 4: extra outs, or free runs, essentially. And then the homer
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  Speaker 4: shows up. The homer didn't show up this year. The
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  Speaker 4: offense was... darn near the worst in the league at
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  Speaker 4: scoring runs. And quite frankly, if you're going to make
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  Speaker 4: more mistakes as a defense or as a pitching staff,
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  Speaker 4: which is a human element of the game, it's hard
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  Speaker 4: on every side of the baseball, it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: There has to be the element of the offense picks
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  Speaker 4: you up. Like we can outscore this team today, whether
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  Speaker 4: we give up seven or eight or we give up
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  Speaker 4: one run.
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  Speaker 3: And we didn't see that this year at all.
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  Speaker 4: So quite frankly, there's going to have to be some
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  Speaker 4: adjustments with the offensive side of the baseball and what
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  Speaker 4: the pitching did in the first half.
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  Speaker 3: Was really well.
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  Speaker 4: The bullpen, Chuck, we all know this, all the fans
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  Speaker 4: know this as well, there has to be depth. And
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  Speaker 4: an unhealthy brash, I think you can point a lot
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  Speaker 4: of direction of concern towards that pocket of the game
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  Speaker 4: where you really have that stopper. You need a healthy brash,
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  Speaker 4: but I think you also need a secondary piece. Watching
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  Speaker 4: the Padres bullpen, Chuck, right now, my goodness. You need
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  Speaker 4: a starter that can go four innings at that point,
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  Speaker 4: but then there's also different brands of baseball players And
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  Speaker 4: I hope that if Mariners fans are watching postseason baseball,
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  Speaker 4: they're trying to figure out what team looks most like
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  Speaker 4: their roster. And I think the Yankees are probably the
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  Speaker 4: closest with the starting pitching really dominating. They have some
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  Speaker 4: bullpen arms that are quality back there that can stop.
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  Speaker 4: But the offense is the thing that really drives that
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  Speaker 4: ship there. So trying to just piece together what brand
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  Speaker 4: of baseball the Mariners direction they want to go next.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Ryan, one of the things you mentioned there was
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  Speaker 6: the defense. I want to ask you kind of, and
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  Speaker 6: that was one of the big things we were looking at,
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  Speaker 6: Chuck and I, going into the year. By most metrics,
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  Speaker 6: at the end was probably the worst defensive team in baseball.
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  Speaker 6: Do you think the way the roster is currently constructed,
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  Speaker 6: that they can bounce back from that to being at
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  Speaker 6: least an average defense with maybe one or two new
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  Speaker 6: coaching voices? Or do you think they need to think
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  Speaker 6: about revamping that part of the roster?
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  Speaker 4: I think that's the interesting question there, Anders, is what
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  Speaker 4: direction do they go with the left side of the
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  Speaker 4: infield especially? The shortstop position, do they feel like they
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  Speaker 4: saw enough from Colt Emerson to hand him the reins
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  Speaker 4: day one and say, hey, this is your runway to
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  Speaker 4: go ahead with? I think defensively, he did a nice job,
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  Speaker 4: third and shortstop. Offensively, is he going to be enough
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  Speaker 4: of a stick there to be able to take five,
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  Speaker 4: six hundred at bats with what direction the Mariners want
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  Speaker 4: to go? with that big bounce back effort coming next year?
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  Speaker 4: Do they have the patience to allow him to continue
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  Speaker 4: his development? Does he make a massive jump like a
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  Speaker 4: Cole Young did this season where the defense outweighs some
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  Speaker 4: of the offensive struggles he has in pockets? Overall, the
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  Speaker 4: body of work for Cole Young this year was really great.
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  Speaker 4: At least the Mariners know they have a lockdown second
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  Speaker 4: baseman who's someone that can really contribute on both sides,
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  Speaker 4: was really clutch with two outs, two runners in scoring position.
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  Speaker 4: I'm really more concerned with what moves they make for
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  Speaker 4: the left-hand side of the infield. Are they going to
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  Speaker 4: finally go get a corner infielder for third base that
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  Speaker 4: can be a middle-of-the-order thumper that can play some tremendous defense?
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  Speaker 4: I think if one of those two positions on the
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  Speaker 4: left-hand side of the infield can be anchored down, it
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  Speaker 4: will have a little bit of room for one of
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  Speaker 4: the younger guys, meaning Colt Emerson, to continue his development.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you think about it, like worst offense in
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  Speaker 2: the sport, worst defense in the sport, pitching that underachieved
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, a bullpen that wasn't healthy. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how did you even finish 10 games under 500? How
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  Speaker 2: did you finish that good when you think about how
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  Speaker 2: much went wrong and how poorly? They played at times.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, nothing came together, Ryan, and Dan Wilson's paying
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  Speaker 2: for it with his job. I'm not going to direct
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  Speaker 2: you with any specific question. I just want your reaction
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  Speaker 2: to Dan Wilson and the decision not to bring him back.
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  Speaker 3: It felt inevitable, especially after that road trip.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone was comparing the road trip when Scott Service got fired,
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  Speaker 4: kind of the make-or-break portion of the season. I believe
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  Speaker 4: it was in the beginning part of August, mid-August, where
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  Speaker 4: they ended up in L.A., It wasn't a great road
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  Speaker 4: trip in general. And everyone thought that was going to
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  Speaker 4: be the straw that broke the camel's back. And it
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  Speaker 4: just wasn't. They decided to ride with Dan Wilson for
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  Speaker 4: the rest of the season. I think that's a big
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  Speaker 4: respect factor for just what Dan has meant to this
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  Speaker 4: organization for parts of three decades. And you heard it
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  Speaker 4: in his post-game press conference. He is the man that's
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  Speaker 4: willing to fall on the sword for this season. And
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  Speaker 4: You know that he's going to find a way to
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  Speaker 4: stick around in some regard in this organization. But it's
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  Speaker 4: sad to see such a good human have to take
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  Speaker 4: most of the blame for the underperforming this year. It's
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  Speaker 4: so much easier to replace one body, though, than it
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  Speaker 4: is a 26-plus man roster.
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  Speaker 3: So that's a big piece of it.
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  Speaker 4: The coaching changes that come with that, it's hard to
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  Speaker 4: argue with their reasoning for making changes with a lot
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  Speaker 4: of the offensive coaches and the voices that were influential there.
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  Speaker 4: For so long, when the offensive side of the baseball
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  Speaker 4: and defensive side of the baseball ranked where they did
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  Speaker 4: this year in the major leagues, the hirings that come next,
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  Speaker 4: I think, is what's interesting me the most. And it's
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  Speaker 4: going to tell me the biggest part of this story
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  Speaker 4: is how serious is this organization taking the opportunity to
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  Speaker 4: win and bounce back? I think the bodies they bring
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  Speaker 4: in to replace the leadership and the veterans and the
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  Speaker 4: positive and successful voices that have been there for so long.
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  Speaker 4: who they bring in to replace them is going to
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  Speaker 4: say a lot about where this organization stands.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: What about from a player's perspective? I think when a
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  Speaker 6: manager gets fired, everyone talks about the players taking some
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  Speaker 6: sort of accountability for quote unquote, getting their manager fired.
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  Speaker 6: Is that an accurate sentiment in clubhouses or is that
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  Speaker 6: kind of an overrated aspect?
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  Speaker 4: If there is a quality relationship between the players and
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  Speaker 4: the manager?
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Like no doubt. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: They, And I can guarantee you that this Mariners roster
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  Speaker 4: this year is feeling a heavy burden for the end
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  Speaker 4: results of what happened because they can't take away the
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  Speaker 4: guaranteed multi-year contracts of the players. But a guy like
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  Speaker 4: Dan Wilson, you can replace, unfortunately. And that is the
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  Speaker 4: nature of professional sports in general. There is always a
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  Speaker 4: next man waiting. And if the results aren't there, a
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  Speaker 4: guy that never stepped on the field during gameplay in
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  Speaker 4: the batter's box behind the plate on the mound to throw, catch,
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  Speaker 4: or hit a baseball all year long is the one
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  Speaker 4: to take the blame. At some point, the players have
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  Speaker 4: to sit there and say, we did this to him.
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  Speaker 4: And the only way that we can make it up
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  Speaker 4: to him is by working hard this offseason, coming back
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  Speaker 4: next year, prepared to right the wrongs that happened throughout
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  Speaker 4: this 162 season.
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  Speaker 2: Boy, I hope that is the approach and not the approach.
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  Speaker 2: We can't make Dan look bad. Let's be just as
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  Speaker 2: bad next season. Yeah, yeah. I hope that's not the approach.
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  Speaker 2: I really hope not. If it is the approach, just
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  Speaker 2: tell us now, so we don't get any hopes up
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  Speaker 2: or anything. Ryan Healy is with us, former Mariner and,
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  Speaker 2: of course, part of the Mariners TV team this year
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  Speaker 2: and has been a part of our team here for
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  Speaker 2: the last year plus. uh, every, uh, Thursday, I think
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  Speaker 2: it was Tuesdays there for a while, but throughout the season, uh,
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  Speaker 2: talking some Mariners baseball. So if you have a name, great.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I love, I'd love to hear your list
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  Speaker 2: of candidates, but, uh, I'll just ask what type of
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  Speaker 2: manager are you looking for? What kind of, uh, attributes
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  Speaker 2: might he have to possess in order to get this
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  Speaker 2: thing immediately turned right back in the right direction?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm, Unfortunately, it'd be really hard for me to
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  Speaker 4: throw out a name that hasn't been publicized yet, because
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  Speaker 4: if you were scrolling social media Monday, Tuesday, you probably
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  Speaker 4: saw 15 to 25 candidates thrown out there anywhere from
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  Speaker 4: the pipe dream of, you know, trading for a manager
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  Speaker 4: like Steven Vogt and trying to get him back into
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  Speaker 4: the Pacific Northwest to, you know, a familiar, a familiar face,
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  Speaker 4: maybe a guy like Tori Lovello. The only other name
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  Speaker 4: that came to mind for me that isn't necessarily on
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  Speaker 4: list yet because he's still actively managing is a guy
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  Speaker 4: like Don Mattingly. Just because of the veteran leadership, the
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  Speaker 4: excellence that he demands, his ability to kind of right
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  Speaker 4: a wrong directed facing ship throughout the course of season.
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  Speaker 4: I don't see the Mariners ability to go out and
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  Speaker 4: get a guy like Alex Corr, even like Albert Pujols.
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  Speaker 4: The financial obligation for that's going to be really high.
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  Speaker 4: The location, the demographic of just where Seattle is, it
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  Speaker 4: has to be attractive to the right personnel. I just
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  Speaker 4: want to see someone that has experience, that has a
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  Speaker 4: different way of approaching the way that they lead the
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  Speaker 4: individuals on the field, and someone that just demands respect
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  Speaker 4: when they walk in a room. And I guess I
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  Speaker 4: know the Astros are the nemesis of the Mariners, but
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  Speaker 4: I think of a guy like Dusty Baker, how he
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  Speaker 4: stepped in there after the scandal of 2018 or 2017,
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  Speaker 4: and when he stepped in in that 2020, 2021, 2022 realm,
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  Speaker 4: He was able to silence a lot of the noise
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  Speaker 4: from the outside coming in and get that team really
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  Speaker 4: focused because of just the experience he possesses in the game.
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  Speaker 4: And I really think at this point in time, the
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  Speaker 4: Mariners need someone that has been around this game for
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  Speaker 4: so long, has seen the highs, seen the lows, understands
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  Speaker 4: that things need to change, and is able to just
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  Speaker 4: step in the room and demand some respect and set
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  Speaker 4: that standard.
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  Speaker 3: So it's not just all on the players.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, maybe this is me protecting my own
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  Speaker 2: baseball analysis that I'm probably too proud of, but I
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  Speaker 2: am anticipating a big bounce back. I am anticipating 2027
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  Speaker 2: to be what I thought 2026 was going to be,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe I'm just smelling my own farts over here.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea, Ryan. Are you anticipating a big
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  Speaker 2: bounce back next year from this team, or do you
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  Speaker 2: think that there is a bigger problem than just underachievement?
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  Speaker 4: I'll reiterate and bring back around something that you already
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  Speaker 4: mentioned this in this conversation, Chuck, when you said, how
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  Speaker 4: did this team finish barely 10 games under 500 with
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  Speaker 4: all the things that went wrong? And I think that
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  Speaker 4: that talks about the fact that the talent is there
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  Speaker 4: on the pitching staff, on the hitting side of the baseball, the,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the success that has.
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  Speaker 3: Already been proven.
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  Speaker 4: If you look at the back of the baseball card
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  Speaker 4: for this roster, you're going to see, you know, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of proof of just success and consistency success of
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  Speaker 4: the major league level and And everyone's back at the
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  Speaker 4: baseball card.
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  Speaker 3: There's always a year that you just wonder.
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  Speaker 2: What happened to that guy.
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  Speaker 3: It's just part of it.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes you got to be bloodied up a little bit
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  Speaker 4: and punched in the mouth to recognize, okay, I'm not perfect.
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  Speaker 4: What I'm doing maybe isn't good enough. It's time to
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  Speaker 4: audit everything a little bit deeper. I do see a
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  Speaker 4: bounce back. And I guess I go back to the
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  Speaker 4: voices from the players in.
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  Speaker 3: The clubhouse of 2025.
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  Speaker 4: Early on in that spring training, just how how guarded
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  Speaker 4: they were to outside opinions and outside voices and how
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  Speaker 4: focused they were to just getting off to a quick
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  Speaker 4: start because they kept missing playoffs by a couple games
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  Speaker 4: that they knew if they could take care of more
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  Speaker 4: games in April and even in May that they wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: have as much stress going into August, September. I'm hoping
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  Speaker 4: that when I am able to step in that clubhouse
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  Speaker 4: next season, that you see that similar kind of guarded
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  Speaker 4: perspective up or attitude up of like, I don't need
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  Speaker 4: to explain myself to you guys. I just want to
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  Speaker 4: go do my business. And if we see that, I
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  Speaker 4: think you're, you're going to see a bounce back effort.
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  Speaker 2: Are I, as somebody that was part of the major
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  Speaker 2: league baseball players association, um, you got a hundred, 200
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  Speaker 2: friends that are, you know, former baseball players. Uh, I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure you talk about it when you get together with Pilar, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and have drinks. I'm sure that, uh, And then this
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  Speaker 2: year being around the Mariners as much as you were,
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  Speaker 2: are you braced for a lockout next year? Are you
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  Speaker 2: braced for a long extended strike or lockout or whatever
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  Speaker 2: the case may be? Are we going to get some
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  Speaker 2: baseball stripped from us in 2027?
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  Speaker 4: I do think there'll be some baseball that's stripped, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 4: just because of the magnitude of the matters at hand.
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  Speaker 3: How much is the big question?
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  Speaker 4: People have already deep dove into How many games can
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  Speaker 4: people afford to miss before national TV deals get extended
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  Speaker 4: a year, so on and so forth. There's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of underlying things that could put more pressure back on
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  Speaker 4: the ownership groups as opposed to the players. I do
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  Speaker 4: remember back in 2022 when that lockout happened, just how
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  Speaker 4: uncomfortable the situation was. And I wasn't even on a
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  Speaker 4: 40-man at that point, so it didn't affect me nearly
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  Speaker 4: as much. But it still was really tough just to
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  Speaker 4: not know when things were going to start. whether that
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  Speaker 4: was spring training or opening day. You get kind of
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  Speaker 4: stuck in the monotony of your routine. Back at home,
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  Speaker 4: you don't really get to see the live pitching, get
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  Speaker 4: the group together, start building that chemistry and camaraderie. It's
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  Speaker 4: going to be, Chuck, unfortunately, it's going to be ugly.
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  Speaker 4: How long is it ugly for is the question we're
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  Speaker 4: all asking. And I guess what I'm going to try
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  Speaker 4: and do is Let future Ryan deal with the problems
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: that the lockout's going to bring and just try to
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: take advantage of everything we can right now.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Write a note to future Ryan. Send him a letter
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: just so that when he does read it, he'll be
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: calm and he can handle it.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: I'm going to put a post-it up in my office
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: and be like, it's going to be okay, buddy. Baseball
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: will come back again. I don't know when, but it'll
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: be okay.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about you just to close out the conversation.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know you didn't spend your childhood dreaming
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: of being a color analyst for a baseball team. One
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: day you spent it thinking about playing baseball. And then
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: once you're a player, you know, you're not real, you
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: might have in the back of your head, I'll be
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: a broadcaster someday after my long 25 year career and
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: my 10 world championships. But, but all of a sudden you,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: you found yourself in a booth, a professional, you know,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Color analyst for play-by-play on one of the 30 major
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: league teams. What was this year like for you? And
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: did it give you a taste for doing it for
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: the next 25 years, potentially?
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: You know, for me personally, it was a dream. Not
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: one that I knew that I had. It was one
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: that I definitely spoke on throughout the last couple of years,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: especially as I was doing more radio stuff, more social
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: media stuff, just being back in the circle of baseball again.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: When I've reflected back on it over the last few
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: weeks since my last set of games, I've just started
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: to recognize a little bit that all the best things
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: in my life that have happened have come completely unexpected.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: It wasn't something that I crafted and articulated and just created.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: It just happened.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: It found me because I was either doing the right
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: things at the right time or someone believed in me.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: And I've been very blessed my entire journey personally and
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: professionally that there are people out there that believe in me.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: including you guys here giving me a shot last year
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: to put my voice on a radio station and have
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: people listen to my opinions, whether they're good or bad.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: The opportunity to someone say I believe in his ability
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: to critically think and speak on hard topics, and then
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: the fact to be put on the TV for a
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: team that had high hopes and expectations. You and I
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: talked about this a little bit, Chuck, when I saw
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: you in Seattle. The fact that I was given more
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: games in the second half of the season in the
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: early part of September– I was given those back in April, May.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: There was anticipation for this team to be on the high,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: winning the division and such. So I had a chance
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: to be a part of a team that had really
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: high hopes. And obviously now I'm dealing or remembering the
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: pain that baseball brings from a different perspective of watching
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: it and talking about it. But it's just been so
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: much fun to learn more about this game from a
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: 30,000-foot view and see what people view and prioritize and value.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: And just to feel a part of something again, Chuck,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: it's just really magical.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Man, great. All right, great. I look forward someday to
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: having something really work out for me. That's going to
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: be an awesome day for me. And then we'll compare notes.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: You did a great job. There was a little bit
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: of pride to hear how great you were and how
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: well you were received. by all Mariner fans who can
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: be very critical. They can be very tough. So, yeah,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: you did a great job, and I appreciate having you
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: on again this season. Hopefully we can do it again
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: next year, but have a great offseason. Work on your
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: ponytail game, and we'll keep in touch throughout the offseason,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: but we appreciate you joining us throughout the year every
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: single week.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Ryan.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you guys. I appreciate your time, and I
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: hope you guys enjoy some football season. All right.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Ryan Haley joining us here on the radio program. Last
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: official time. We'll bug him in the offseason, I'm sure.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Of course. Mike Sandoz is going to join us next.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Shut up, Dicker.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: It's time for our Thursday visit with Mike Sandoz of
• 19:43
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• 19:47
  Speaker 1: on the horn and call Hunt's. Now with Mike, here's
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Chuck in the morning.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Kirk Herbstreet wearing his makeup like in normal life.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Look at that. Yeah.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Is he like going to be in a play this
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: weekend on Broadway? Look at that. I think so. He's
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: got makeup caked on his face. Great morning to you all.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: It is Chuck Anders and Christopher Kidd with you, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: it is now time to be joined by our NFL
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: insider every Thursday at 930. What a busy show we
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: have had. And Mike Sando is adding to our outstanding
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: lineup here today from The Athletic. Good morning, Mike. Good morning.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: How are you? Doing all right? I'm doing great, yeah.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: Looking forward to another week.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Do you have your TV makeup on right now, too,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: even though you're not on television?
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: I probably should, just in case there's a chance meeting
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: with somebody, but no, I do not.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: You don't need it, Mike.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not you. Youthful-looking Mike Sando. All right, let's talk
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: about our opponent this weekend here in Seattle. How did
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: the Chargers get so broken, Mike?
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: Isn't that a great question? So, The Chargers have, there's
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: a great picture recently showing Jim Harbaugh with Mike McDaniel.
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: And it's Mike McDaniel standing there on the sideline. And
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: Jim Harbaugh is like lording over. Mike's standing behind him.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: He's way bigger.
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: Jim Harbaugh is wearing cleats as a coach, right? You know,
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: we all know the Jim Harbaugh ML. And then you've
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: got Mike McDaniel wearing whatever those pants are, you know,
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: kind of capris, you know, you know, that sort of
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: a thing. And so, uh, we're starting to wonder about
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: not only that fit, but the fit of this big
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: strong arm quarterback in Justin Herbert, who kind of, you know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: a little bit more see it and throw it with
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: a coordinator. Who's been super anticipatory throws with to a
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: tongue of Lola. And we're just wondering like, is, is
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: this going to work? How, how long is it going
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: to take for this to work? And then number two,
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: their roster, Lax depth. They were not big spenders in
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: free agency. Look what the Raiders did. Raiders were signing
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: N'Kobe Dean and Tyler Lindenbaum and all these guys for
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: big money deals to strengthen their team. And the Chargers
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: just sort of ran it back. And it feels to
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: me like it's just their worst case scenario.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: For them.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: And I don't want to hear excuses for Herbert anymore.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've been making excuses about his line and
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: everything else. So I don't even want to hear about
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: a quarter. Yeah. Even if they're real, no one wants
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: to hear it. Yeah, it's time to put a lot
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: of quarterbacks. Tom Brady once had to go to a
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl with an entirely backup offensive line because they
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: all got hurt during the season, and he won the
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl, for goodness sake. So if you're great, overcome it.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: That's where I am.
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: Are you worried from a Seattle standpoint? You know they're
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: going to win a game sometime. Does the Washington loss
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: remove any chance of Seattle losing? I kind of think
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: it does, but It's a little bit scary when you
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: have this team that's expected to be pretty good. There's
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: reasons for that. They're going to win a game sometime.
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: Is this their great week that everything comes together?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: No. I mean, I told Anders earlier this week, the
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: worst thing that happened to the Chargers was that the
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Commanders beat the Seahawks this week because there's no way
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: that they're going to catch the Seahawks fat and happy.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Right now, the Seahawks are angry right now. And I
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: just think, Mike, the Chargers– I mean, I think about
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: the Texans, another 0-3 team that I had high expectations for,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: but every week they look close. They look like they
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: are just maybe a play or two away or an
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: adjustment or two away. Chargers don't look anywhere close to
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: being close.
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: No, and the problem they have is the matchup is
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: terrible for them because the interior of their offensive line
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: is where they're struggling. And guess what? Seattle's got really
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: good guys there. Byron Murphy, Leonard Williams. I mean, it
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: really sets up with the noise and everything to be
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: a very difficult game for the, you know, for the
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: Chargers offense.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Have the Seahawks in your mind underperformed three games into
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: the year? Do you, do you question them a little
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: bit when we weren't planning on questioning them after three games? Oh,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe just a little bit.
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: I think it was, they had to work harder than
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: you would have thought in the Patriot game. You know,
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: they had to get some gifts to win that one. And,
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: and I thought the second game against the Cardinals was
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: exactly what you'd expect from them. Just, you know, this
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: feeling of inevitability against a worse team. This last week,
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: you know, the turnover factor, that was the same conversation
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: we had last year. Whenever they lost, it was barely losing,
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: but they had four turnovers, right? So that was a
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: little bit concerning. I think they've, you know, they've played with,
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: playing without two or three of your safeties is a
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: big deal. So, you know, the fact that they've, gotten
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: the two and one with their starting quarterback barely playing
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: you know one game and and not playing the other
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: i think i give them a mostly a pass.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: New england more like the texans my description of the
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: texans are more like your description of the chargers at this.
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: Chargers something feels off there uh obviously it was a
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: brutal off season for them the head coach was in
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: the news for wrong reasons it had to be some
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: kind of a distraction and now you have a quarterback
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: in Drake May, who is, you know, you're always going
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: to have ups and downs as a young quarterback, but
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: he looks kind of shaken in his decision-making. And now
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: he's in this super tough market of Patriots. He's got
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: a no-nonsense defensive-minded head coach who probably doesn't have the
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: most patience with a quarterback. And you've got hard coaching
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: from Josh McDaniels, which I think is a good thing typically,
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: but I think he's in a tough spot just almost
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: like emotionally right now, it feels like to me, Drake May.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and at Buffalo, so that's not going to be easy. Hey,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill's little teaser, I think it's the Buffalo Bills.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: You got a guess on that? Tyreek Hill's teaser? Yeah,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: his teaser yesterday. He said he's feeling like some cold
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: weather right now. Everybody was reading into where he was speculating.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to be at Buffalo Bill.
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: You think he's going to be at Buffalo Bill?
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That'd be an interesting ad for the strongest armed
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: quarterback in the world. It would.
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: I just really wonder where he's at right now. Is
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: he going to be the same Tyreek Hill? Because when
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: you sign up for that, you're signing up for other
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: things too. Him doing things that are not necessarily team-oriented.
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: I would be cautious as a team that has a
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: lot of good things going. Adding that in, unless you
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: really were sure you had a strong head coach and
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: the terms of the deal were really favorable for you
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: and this guy could still do it.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about a few teams where it has been
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: working so far this year. San Francisco 49ers have looked great.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but through three weeks.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Is it real?
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Hosting the Denver Broncos this weekend. What kind of outcome
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: are you expecting there?
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: I think that could go either way. I think the
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: Broncos are a good enough team to have that be close.
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: And if the 49ers run away from them and win
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: by double digits, then it really is affirming of them.
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: I think for the 49ers, we know that the 49ers
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: at their best are really good and offensively are really good.
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: Same quarterback, really great system. McCaffrey's playing. Mike Evans came
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: out of the last game, but they've got enough weapons,
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: I think. The quarterback's When he's going, it looks great.
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: I think they still have to answer two questions. Can
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: the quarterback do that against Seattle? Because it hasn't looked
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: as good against Seattle for him. And then do they
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: have the staying power? Just as a team with their
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: older players, Mike Evans, Trent Williams, Christian McCaffrey, you sort
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: of figure that by the end of the year, they're
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: not going to be quite the same. And that's why
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: I think from their standpoint, what's been great is they
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: got to play the Rams in week one. See, the
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: Rams don't play the Seahawks until the final three or
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: four weeks. But the 49ers are getting some of these.
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: They get Seattle and they get the Rams in the
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: first five weeks of the season. I think that's great
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: for them because I question what they're going to be
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: later in the year.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: The Las Vegas Raiders, was Clint Kubiak just what they
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: needed in that organization? And has he made them so
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: good that they can go to 4-0 now?
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: By beating the chiefs this weekend. That would probably surprise
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: me if they beat the chiefs. I thought it was
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: notable that Clint Kubiak in his post game, you know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: celebratory locker room last week mentioned who they got next.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: So it's obviously circled for them. I think what we're
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: seeing is all of the questions about the Raiders for
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: the longterm are still there. The ownership and all of that,
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: when it gets to be tough there, they, they may
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: do some crazy things and drive this car off of
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: the road, but we're definitely seeing a, competency of coaching
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: in terms of everyone being on the same page and
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: having a, having a program with a purpose that's pulling
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: in the same direction. And I think they didn't have
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: that last year. They brought in Pete Carroll, but kind
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: of weird setups with Chip Kelly as an offensive coordinator,
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: hold over defensive coordinator, Patrick Graham, his two sons on
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: the staff and prominent roles, including coaching the offensive line
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: when frankly, they probably weren't, you know, merit-based hires.
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: I think they were a, they were sort of a
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: dysfunctional group in terms of their coaching last year. And
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: I think that's been completely streamlined and made efficient in
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: a way now that we're at a veteran quarterback in
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: the mix who knows that system in Kirk Cousins. And
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: this is probably the best case scenario of how.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: It could have looked.
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: Because remember, we were questioning if Cousins had this left
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: in him. But he's hit the round running. I believe
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: he's tied– Aaron Rodgers is the only quarterbacks 38 or
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: older to have three touchdowns in each of their first
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: three games.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: You know, usually, Mike, you know this, the NFL, man,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: they don't miss it, miss a beat ever. I mean,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: they usually have it all on lockdown. They really know
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: how to promote their sport. There's no question about it.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: But I do have to question why I'm watching the
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns, Carolina Panthers, Atlanta Falcons, and New Orleans Saints
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: playing my primetime games this weekend and And on Sunday,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: all at the exact same time, the Patriots and the Bills,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars and the Bengals, the Rams and the Eagles,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys and the Texans. I mean, that's a lot
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: of good games to put at one time. And then
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: we got to suffer through Deshaun Watson tonight.
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: Well, I wonder, do they figure everyone's going to watch
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: the primetime games anyway? It's the only game in town.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Probably.
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: Sunday, they're trying to make that as interesting as possible.
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure, but- I noticed going into the year
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: that the schedule showed the most primetime games in the
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: first five weeks was the Rams with four.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: You could get it.
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: And then it was the Falcons with three. So, you know,
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: they had a good game against the Packers, but I
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: don't think we would have seen that going in as
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: a team to circle.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Big Pennix believers, I think.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you think of tonight's game?
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: Well, are you going to watch number one?
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to watch. Hell, I have plans. I'm
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: going to go out to watch. Yeah.
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm very intrigued by the game because the Steeler
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: offense could not have looked worse the first two weeks
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: of the season. Really horrific. And then you watch them
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: this last week. Rodgers is moving around. He looked good,
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: and he was buying time, and the offense looked really good.
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: So I think it's a little bit of a test
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: for the Steelers going on the road on a short week,
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: division rival, and I probably lean towards them. It felt
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: like they got some things going together offensively there. And
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: I think their defense probably can handle Deshaun Watson.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Well, enjoy it. Thank you, sir, for your time. We
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. And we'll bug you again next week.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 32:07
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  Speaker 2: your hydrojetting. Who doesn't like to go hydrojetting on the weekend? Everyone, yeah. Pipelining.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they've got you covered at Hunt's Services. So
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: get on the horn and call Hunt's. uh, today.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up next, we'll close out this very busy Thursday
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  Speaker 2: show with one last thing. Sports radio, 93.3 KJR FM.
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  Speaker 2: All right, final segment of this very busy Thursday show.
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  Speaker 2: Tomorrow's will be busy as well, but not nearly this busy.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Benton's coming your way next. Oh, what a coup
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  Speaker 2: that Jessamyn McIntyre was able to schedule Mike Benton on
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  Speaker 2: the day of the Kraken season opener as the Kraken
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  Speaker 2: will take the ice tonight in Calgary. I'm practicing my Calgary.
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  Speaker 7: Good job.
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  Speaker 5: Well done.
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  Speaker 6: I did have a texter say that Canadians get really
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  Speaker 6: annoyed when you call it Calgary.
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  Speaker 2: Is that right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't want that to happen. Then again, Canadians
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  Speaker 2: are on my last nerve. 6 p.m.
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  Speaker 3: Starts.
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  Speaker 2: They'll drop the puck, and then Mike will have the pregame.
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  Speaker 2: But you're going to get an extended pregame coming up
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  Speaker 2: here starting at 10 o'clock. as he's filling in for
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bell today. How about that? Getting the captain on
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  Speaker 2: the day of the first game of the year. Good timing.
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  Speaker 3: Good timing.
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  Speaker 2: All right, one last thing, Anders. What do you got?
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  Speaker 6: Well, in the last 15 minutes, it has come out
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  Speaker 6: that the Seahawks have designated running back Zach Charbonnet to
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  Speaker 6: return to practice. Now, I don't believe that that means
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  Speaker 6: he's going to play this week. Actually, he can't because
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  Speaker 6: of the IR rules. But I believe that does line
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  Speaker 6: him up to return in Week 5 against the 49ers.
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  Speaker 5: So, good news.
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  Speaker 6: Um for everyone except jedari and price fantasy owners like myself.
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  Speaker 2: Especially in light of what happened exactly this past week
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  Speaker 2: exactly yeah yeah that's yeah it's a really interesting debate
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  Speaker 2: though because i get both fane and his points in
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  Speaker 2: the round table like okay maybe this isn't the week
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  Speaker 2: to make that point but i also see you like
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  Speaker 2: hey Stop everything. You're going to get the message that
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  Speaker 2: you're not going to fumble and get the football on
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  Speaker 2: this team. So figure it out. And I'll even sacrifice
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  Speaker 2: a win if I have to in order for you
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  Speaker 2: to get the message. It's an interesting little debate there.
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  Speaker 2: All right, kid, what do you got for your one
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  Speaker 2: last thing?
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  Speaker 8: In the interview with Sandow, he brought up the Steelers'
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  Speaker 8: offense looking really bad the first two weeks.
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  Speaker 5: I can attest because I watched both of those games.
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  Speaker 3: Really bad.
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  Speaker 8: And part of it was watching DK just drop passes,
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  Speaker 8: not be himself. He had his best year in Seattle,
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  Speaker 8: and he was doing a bunch of stuff. Running deep,
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  Speaker 8: catching bombs, all of that. And then with the Steelers,
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  Speaker 8: they have him running slants, curls, like routes that he
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  Speaker 8: can do, but he's so effective just running by defenders.
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  Speaker 8: So I'm curious to see how he performs tonight because
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  Speaker 8: if you guys have done any just looking up his stats.
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  Speaker 5: He hasn't had a.
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  Speaker 8: 100-yard game since last year of December against the Ravens.
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  Speaker 5: And we're talking about a DK makeout.
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  Speaker 8: We're not talking about a third-string receiver.
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  Speaker 5: We're talking about a guy that can catch it and
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  Speaker 5: be gone.
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  Speaker 2: It might register as the largest amount of unnecessary angst
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  Speaker 2: that Seattle sports fans have ever experienced. The entire, like... Okay,
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  Speaker 2: are we really going to trade him? Oh, my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: he's so talented. Oh, my gosh. If they really do
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  Speaker 2: unleash him, what's he going to be? I mean, the potential,
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  Speaker 2: we've seen the potential for so long, and we were
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  Speaker 2: angry that he didn't get the ball enough, and he
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  Speaker 2: was angry. I mean, is he going to get to Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 2: and they're going to focus, and are we going to
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  Speaker 2: have to deal with 1,700-yard seasons?
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  Speaker 3: Nope. Nope.
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  Speaker 5: Guess where he's at right now this season, Chad.
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  Speaker 2: And instead, we have the guy with 1,700-yard seasons.
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  Speaker 5: Back-to-back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, ready to replace him. I mean, how much time
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  Speaker 2: we spent on whether or not we should do that
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  Speaker 2: and make that change and considering how it turned out.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, because you got a load in return for
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  Speaker 2: DK Metcalf as well in that trade. And we ended
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  Speaker 2: up with the far better No. 1 receiver.
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  Speaker 6: Not just like, hey, we got the better receiver. I
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  Speaker 6: still believe it played a factor into making him the
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  Speaker 6: best receiver in the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, sorry.
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  Speaker 2: No, go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: One last thing to put it all together.
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  Speaker 8: He has 98 receiving yards through three games this season
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  Speaker 8: in a touchdown.
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  Speaker 5: And I know the lazy take is DK Metcalf, he
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  Speaker 5: can't play anymore. He's washed.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's more so how they're using him,
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  Speaker 8: the offensive philosophy, the coverage that he's seeing, opportunities, all
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  Speaker 8: of that. So it's not all on him. I agree
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  Speaker 8: that he's dropped some passes this season, but I think
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  Speaker 8: they can.
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: They're not the most creative offense. Aaron Rodgers isn't what
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  Speaker 2: he used to be. But it's also part of the
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  Speaker 2: Herbert conversation. Enough excuses for DK Metcalf not being more productive.
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  Speaker 2: We made them for him here, and we're still making
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  Speaker 2: them for him in Pittsburgh, for goodness sake. He's an
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  Speaker 2: extraordinarily talented receiver. I think he will go on to
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  Speaker 2: better days this season. I don't think he's done. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think he's washed. But I think I am finished
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  Speaker 2: thinking he's ever going.
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  Speaker 3: To be great.
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  Speaker 2: He'll be good. He was good here. He's going to
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  Speaker 2: be good, but he's never going to be great.
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  Speaker 6: Not a top-tier wide receiver.
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  Speaker 2: Not going to be JSN. JSN's great. All right, last
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  Speaker 2: one for me. Just quickly, Major League Baseball and its
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: playoff schedule, they can't win. If they schedule games one
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: on top of the other, they get crushed on social media.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean? I've got to have two TVs
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  Speaker 2: to watch both of the games? If they schedule, if
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: they spread it out over the course of the day,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: then without fail, oh, my son had to go to
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  Speaker 2: bed and couldn't even watch his Cubs play because they
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: play too late. And if they play too early, I
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  Speaker 2: can't even get off work for that. They cannot win.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing that I am just going to tell people,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't even want you to do it, you
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  Speaker 2: should live on the West Coast.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're so stupid that you don't live on
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  Speaker 2: the West Coast, I don't have any sympathy for you.
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  Speaker 2: But please, don't move to the West Coast. All right,
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk to you tomorrow at 6 a.m. Coming up next,
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  Speaker 2: it's Mike Benton and Jessamyn McIntyre, Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.