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MAJOR on Marriage, Hope, Beyoncé, Kirk Franklin, Gospel Industry & Surviving Abortion Story · Love You Moore with Willie Moore Jr.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey family, Willie Mojun, you're here at K.A.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mr. Adorable, don't blame me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Family, I'm the host of the Love You More Show, a place where we really create a safe space for people to share their hurts, their handguns, and their heart rates, and their journey to love in themselves again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Family, we are live in Atlanta, Georgia, and we are on location, and this is about to be Christ.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So this month, we're hanging out with DeBond Frank.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mr. Philadelphia, good morning again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's President, Nathan Davis.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, I had to hang out with singer extraordinaire, Major.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know we got a word from the Lord from past the Mid-Toy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, somebody.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And because we're in the A, you know we had to hang out with Greenland.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not often we get the opportunity to go on the road, but when we do, we get the biggest and largest gifts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't forget to love yourself more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Disrespectful, venture, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think marriage is a beautiful, disrespectful adventure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The church can do a better job at helping us understand that marriage is not a, uh, end-all be all of issues.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have issues and that a, heal, the issues are going to be in the marriage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't disappear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I used to be, I used to be like, Oh, you never get in the voice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually get it for some folks, because some people are not ready to face themselves, to see themselves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can only perform for so long, I'm flawed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I ain't got it all together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're gonna love me, I just wanna be honest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey family, Willie Mollogune, you here, and welcome to another edition of The Love You More Shell.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here's the thing, shout out to all the subscribers across the nation who have tapped in and you have been showing so much love.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can I just say this?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I managed from the bottom of my heart.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for the thousands of people who have already signed up for the F3 Challenge, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'd like to get that fitness and that faith together.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then finally to the people who have stopped people watching and just looking and subscribe, I just honor and I appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, family, today I want to say this, I'm so honored that I get the opportunity to hang out with the man who's literally created a lot of music, many of you all have used this song for your wedding.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, I've heard that he has been booked for more weddings than concerts nowadays because of his song.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is why I love you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But today we'll get an opportunity to meet the man behind the music.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He goes by the name of Major.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's happening, champion?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, it's good to see you, brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, it's great to see you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I feel blessed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I feel worked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but overall, I'm grateful, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And did, man, I'm so grateful to have you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was telling the team the other day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said listen shout out to Uncle G. He called.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, shout out to Uncle G for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, bro, you gotta make sure that major's on that show, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He got one heck of a story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: His music is doing what it's supposed to do and I just think that he'll be great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I've had the opportunity to know you for a few years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I've seen the maturation of your brand.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen you go from a guy who was knocking on gospel door to making a song to God that has been translated into love and marriage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I've seen this is why I love you turning this to a phenomenon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now we have the hope deal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I want to go back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, where are you originally from?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Talk a little bit about childhood.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How made you grew up?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you grow up in church?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you grow up in the street?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How did that work?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Could you all, you everywhere?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm originally from Houston, Texas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Grow up in Texas, the blended family about 13 siblings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not about you got to say about when it's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I started to eat, so where are you, are you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like kind of a middle child on both sides.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Between my mom and my stepdad, it's a blended family, it's 10 of us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm one of the 10, and on my dad and my stepmom, it's five of us, and I'm one of the five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like right in the middle, but I know love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know diversity of personalities, so community came easy for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I grew up in Houston, Texas, went to perform in art schools all my life, including the high school for the performing and visual arts and that's beyond, say,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Robert Glass for Brian Michael Cox, a lot of great Latoia Lucky.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There, you know, years ahead of me, but those are my, my big roses, just that have kind of paved the way for a lot of us, you know, coming right behind them, get an intensive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: at Juilliard right before going to the Berkeley College of Music.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm studied in the space that I'm champion now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So was mom or dad or their musicians?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Was there somebody you say?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just something you grew up like, what's at your escape?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, my mom, she swore that she sang in the choir.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, she was big on making certain that
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like some type of skill is that at three I told my mom that I wanted to do this for the rest of my life and and I also want to be a pastor so when I when I see this musical gift and I see that you're able to move in so many different spaces like your mysterious guy right I don't really know much outside of music as it pertains to major.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that intentional?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You come out with this record.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is why I love you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is the biggest record to date in my opinion for weddings and people like, I mean, it's over millions plus his even just shared.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then later on, I think, I remember Crystal Lee.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Major's Mary, and he got married, and so we like posting and loud on radio.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, how is it for a man who is the champion of marriage?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How has that shifted your trajectory once you got married?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, speaking firstly to the mystery of me, I think when people really get to know me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll realize this isn't an act.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's literally how I've moved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't come from affluence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't come from a whole bunch of money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, I just always thought I would have it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My real name is Major, my mama named me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Considered abortion when she got pregnant with me on her way to the abortion clinic, she, the tire goes flat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She, at that time, a boy, you had to, you couldn't just show up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You had to set appointments, so she missed her appointment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She went back home, and a few weeks later, because she was feeling this pressure of having a child out of wedlock, they were in college, and she's like, I gotta get rid of this child I can't go through that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On her way to the abortion clinic for the second time and nearly the same spot, a different tire busted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so she said,
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[SPEAKER_01]: got to have this kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hear you got, but you're going to walk, you got to walk with me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And my grandma is like, name a major after my daddy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was like, well, if I name a major, I pray that he makes a major impact on the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've leaned into that, and it wasn't always me leaning into major, as I hated my name growing up, because it was a different one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Major minor, major league, major, what's your major major?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, the
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you get to know you know how sarcastic I can be or how hilarious or witty I am I learn that because I have to defend this working kid that was always optimistic whose name was major.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So when you tell the story of my I'm wanting to get an abortion and then having so many other children what did that reality do to you as a man knowing that you may not have
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, um, she didn't tell me that story until I got to college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was the first of my siblings to go to college, let alone graduate, but me not, when my mom told me that was the name, she named me and why it actually gave me a different feeling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not of, I wasn't on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, oh, there's any.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is purpose anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is there is a plan that's bigger than us, you know, and so, um, so yeah, I took it as an assignment and that's when I leaned into, I'm an all my name.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So here's the thing, me and you shared this in a similar stance when I, my mom, when I learned that she was almost forced to have an abortion from, she's like, it wasn't something that I wanted, but because we come from an inflow of fluid family, my name and everybody she had already had one child out of the way a lot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and she realized what it was like to be pulled out the choir to be ridiculed to where these long clothes, so nobody sees and flowing, like you are literally the plague if you don't have a ring on this thing, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so now she has this new child with the same guy, she thinks they're going to get married because people got married real.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In 1890, he promised that he would marry he ended up not marrying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So she goes to an abortion clinic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She finds a way out of it, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: because it was a little later on in the process and she just couldn't do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And she came, I said, the doctor said it was too late.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm here because of her decision, she was like, I just felt the Lord wanted to do something with this child and she gave the option of adoption and the promotion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so for me, when I found that story out,
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[SPEAKER_03]: It really did me good and it gave me fuel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I became over positive because it gave me fuel to know that I'm not a mistake.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That guy had his hands on me, that although people, children come from God, they just come through parents, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So just because the opportunity to come through, it doesn't necessarily mean that this is who you have to be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I always had this larger than life attitude towards life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I use it as fuel and not a negative.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Firstly, thank you for sharing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: how some of us just have it in our work make up to choose the perspective that will only advance us forward even when we have every right to be depressed devastated or defeated by
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a disruptor of how circumstances can probably tell you this, this is a card.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is all you have to play, so you probably can't do much else with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what hope does is it pimes away to make the beauty and to choose the beauty of what this can be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it often almost always is rewarded
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it was in 2002, 2005.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I wrote this song, she got the best conversation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She looked good from head to toe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think one day she just might be because in the song goes on, so I let you know that you're my good thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I did good thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just a big wedding scene.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And like, I'd like to say, I was the first win.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, this is, I'm like, this is,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I love you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We give him not give it to Steve.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, they don't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, him too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Him too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Him too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about like early 2000s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I got you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then I was you underground and then you blew up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But then I go get married.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was just like, this don't feel real.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Good thing is because it was almost like the attack was on me so hard because I was such a champion for marriage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You being married now for a few years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like what has been like, what has that been like for you knowing that you're such a beacon of hope for others?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like how is it for you stewarding your own family?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, as a beacon of hope, I want to be clear what how I define hope, hope is not the denial of reality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yo, in the midst of the disrespect, it's sometimes that's going to come.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still choose this, and it's not always easy because it's a daily choosing, but it's also an exercise that you put into play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As far as marriage and being an example, I think marriage is a beautiful, disrespectful, adventure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey family, Willie Mojoonga here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so sorry that I, no, I'm not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I need you to subscribe to this channel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I interrupted.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead and subscribe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're on our way to 300,000 subscribers and we cannot do it without you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so now that to major flat out as far as marriage and being an example, I think marriage is a beautiful
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[SPEAKER_03]: Disrespectful, venture, what do you want to do to that mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think marriage is a beautiful, disrespectful adventure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why is it disrespectful?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're asking the questions only because you're the host.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're moving in the techniques of journalism to get to deeper, but you know exactly what I'm talking about because you know the
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[SPEAKER_01]: your permission.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's so disrespectful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And because it's a forever becoming, it's a forever shedding, which is not always cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not cool at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you force a shed, you know, we see, what's my guide?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The, the, the, the,
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a beautiful way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, what did you say?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a, it's a beautiful, dish respectful adventure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every Mary person will agree with what I just said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now one of you will disagree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can put that on Bible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: God, no one's talking about and I want to clear that up because I think the church can do a better job specifically the church because the church is the champion of that covenant, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The church can do a better job at helping us understand that marriage is not an end-all be all of issues.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have issues and that ain't healed,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The issues are going to be in the marriage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't disappear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And at the end of the day, I'm not saying that you should not come into marriage with issues.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think we should do some free work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, one of the things I learned about the street is they had a thing called pre-game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
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[SPEAKER_01]: Marriages, the beautiful, this respectful adventure where you start learning T-shirts again T-shirts Yeah, where we start learning how to share space, and oh Oh, you move like that when you're upset Oh, you move like that when you're confused.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't just honor
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[SPEAKER_01]: so that was wedding day talk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we got to figure each other out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to figure out our rhythm and so that's what I convey when I'm talking hope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Find your rhythm in it, the pace of grace, the pace of grace find your own rhythm and that comes by way of you having
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[SPEAKER_01]: the understanding he's the manufacturer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He knows what the pieces are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he can lead you back to have you try this though, but have you tried this or go back to how it was supposed to operate in the first place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so a lot of times I used to be, I used to be like, oh, you never get the
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[SPEAKER_01]: to face themselves, to see themselves in the broken and the messed up, and you can only perform for so long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, some people don't know that they're lying, because that's all they've ever been doing so long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And some environments by way of, that's just how my family is, performance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when you get in marriage, you get to know each other and your brokenness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying that you have to expose every single weakness that you've ever had, but it's the honesty in the moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Be true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My song on has got me, my Grammy nowadays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm flawed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I ain't got it all together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you go and love me, this will come with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That would, that's best.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So now, so now being on the other side of me, because it's first year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm five years in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You ate yourself on the other side, I'm in it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know you in it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So being on the other side.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But hello.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I learned Dr. White, she great, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But now you're sitting there, because I do you still, well, I've seen you do some wind.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It calls it pretty pity to get them now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a chance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a chance to get them there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It won't get them for me to play the record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just play the song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And one thing I appreciate is streams and download.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But so now you sit in there and you this is what I love.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you see them coming down all the out are you like, you don't even know what you're doing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you like sense it now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do a actual survey first.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you do a survey before you get involved with any covenant that may not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm telling you the survey is for the rich.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And every day people, I'm not going to call you poor because that's just a season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have the survey just to really understand, how did you meet?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you say this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why was this it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I want to know why you love them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I want to understand it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And some people have not passed a survey sorry if I didn't call you back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: people didn't get back to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not always that sometimes it's a calendar thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it's a no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it may hurt certain people's feelings, but it's sacred for me what I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I know my music entertains, but play a record if it's just entertainment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on assignment to amplify hope and love, life, future, and culture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't play with me just to have a moment on reality TV.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't play with me just to have a moment on TV for the lights, the camera, the action, if you don't mean it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it does break my heart when you miss handle something that was downloaded to be in sacred way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, Major, being the hope dealer and not toxic toxic positivity, how do you find freedom in the fact that people know you for this, but you still have a level of humanity that still exists?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're good at this, brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You should do it more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And y'all still like and subscribe.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think my, I think the reality is
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[SPEAKER_05]: I can only, I can only be me, man.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I can, I can only be major for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all that I'm riding on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm riding on the truth and meeting the heart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's I'm good at what I do and I and I and I know that it may appear super fixed and all that stuff, but we were talking about even like the ocean in angry something all that stuff like I get angry it mad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a book that I and it has a few translations to kind of help you understand it even more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's told me, see, angry, but send that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: All right, so in other words, he'll it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's okay to feel it, but don't let that be.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You're steering, feel it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to be about, and I help you work through it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm real about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know if I answer exactly what you asked me, but I just wanted to make sure I said that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you put Jesus in it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what they do, but I gotta ask you this though.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just talked about humanity.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You were honest, like, hey, I do get mad or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just know when you have, I said down with D1, who's also hope dealer, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he gonna get you right, right for some real.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know what I'm talking about, baby?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I just felt this overwhelming pressure that sometimes good guys get put on them because you almost become this example of, well, if you say this, and you can't do this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's because I've been there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, the passion.
22:57
[SPEAKER_03]: thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you represent hope.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, no, no, no, no, I'm not monolithic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, me too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we're from the neighborhood and I go to church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got chills.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got teenagers and I got grown kids.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm kind of, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm I'm trying to make all of me obedient to God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And sometimes they all got they on the lane as one is a little bit more, you know, rough.
23:17
[SPEAKER_03]: And so here's the kiss 22.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to actually this with you knowing that you have a not necessarily
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[SPEAKER_03]: How has the gospel music industry kind of rubbed you right and sometimes how did it rub you wrong?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because they don't know all the things that you might be going through internally because I know that gospel music was your goal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first thing I got to be in gospel gospel industry first.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did not open the doors to me.
23:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It was crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was weird.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in church.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They call me choir boy, man.
23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't call me choir boy just because I sang how like the temptation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if I heartbeats, it's my favorite thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to my cousin, Tory, that actually said, you're gonna be choir boy, but it was because I was a kid that stood out in the choir too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Give him a solo, he got a dinner, give him a solo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been, I've put in the work, I said, I'm gonna learn all of this stuff about my craft so that I can give it to gospel music because I watched BB and CC and Kirk Franklin and Yolanda Adams and Kimberrell, all of these styles and influences done to top level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna give them that and I'm gonna give it to them in the major way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: gospel didn't open the doors and I knew almost all of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of the folks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the labels when I went to them, they would say I'm too big for gospel, too polished for gospel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another said, we already have a gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which I thought was real disrespectful because it thought you were a gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They said, we already have a gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They thought I was a gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was one.
25:05
[SPEAKER_01]: But you'd be surprised.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just going to say it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tide-tribbit was who they were referring to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was disrespectful to me, and also on his behalf because I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't realize that that's his artistry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the truth of his artistry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People will label what they don't understand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A gimmick often until it becomes the thing everybody wants and they celebrate it.
25:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But I was like a gimmick.
25:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That's wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Her Franklin a gimmick?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, are you calling all these people that have literally raised the bar?
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[SPEAKER_01]: A gimmick?
25:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Calm down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: or the other thing they would say, well, we love it.
25:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk tomorrow.
25:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Tomorrow will turn the next week.
25:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Next week will turn the next month, next month, never.
25:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And so gospel didn't open any doors for me.
25:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, I'm a stop.
25:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I will not chase the embrace of the uninteresting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go elsewhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember writing a letter to Michael Johnson of the Stellar Awards when I was about to graduate high school and saying, they call me quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, I'm a new artist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to be on the Stellars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I work really hard at promise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I won't disappoint you and he responded back via email.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Quarboy, we look forward to seeing you in the future.
26:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, we don't, you know, we don't have space where you just keep putting out music and I'm pretty sure you're gonna hit this stage.
26:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Fast forward, what was your boy doing last month on the stage?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even know you said, I liked my different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's Mike, I call him uncle Mike.
26:42
[SPEAKER_01]: But let me tell you, I'm not mad at gospel, the industry.
26:48
[SPEAKER_01]: While it hurt me in the moment, it's this hopeshift, the perspective was,
26:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Not everyone is meant to see you, or who you are, in the moment you expect them to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul, the biggest champions of kingdom, Gales, he couldn't see what he was missing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: his life changed and he became the biggest champion for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm okay with people understanding it in a new season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's stuff that I used to say I would never eat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I eat it now, sushi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I tell that sushi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a kato.
27:29
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a kato.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I honor the church community, but I will say this.
27:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I challenge church and gospel community.
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[SPEAKER_01]: please do better by how you handle people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Other industries and other genres literally are watching.
27:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen it.
27:52
[SPEAKER_01]: They're watching how we move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're the ones that profess a standard.
27:58
[SPEAKER_01]: You may say it's not fair where human too, but we're the only industry that profess as a standard.
28:04
[SPEAKER_01]: While integrity of honor and respect of kingdom
28:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Legalism is one thing, but if it ain't love, miss me with it, you miss God with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Miss me with it, because you miss God with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Put that in the comments.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just try to help people, I'm telling you.
28:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm learning along the way.
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know everything, but I'm wise beyond my years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've helped a lot of people come to understandings.
28:30
[SPEAKER_01]: We gotta do this walk better, because sometimes we are the only Bible
28:40
[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't live it, you will miss purpose, you will miss purpose, and you're wondering why you're not fulfilled because you have focused on the wrong things, you have made it about you and missed out that purpose involves more than just you.
28:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It will always be both, you'll never be one of the other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I want to help with people trying to find purpose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's my purpose?
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[SPEAKER_01]: that not only benefits the recipient, but also you, because God doesn't leave his creation at a deficit, not when it operates according to who he is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then, so, hope, Dilla, major holding it down right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I gotta ask you this question.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you're about to go on the road.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you drop some new music.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The hope, Dilla Sessions, out now, go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's a little different.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a mixed thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, oh, is that, what is it?
29:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know about Oakland.
29:38
[SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's, that's not all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So did you grow up in the neighborhood where they had mixed tapes?
29:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you have mixed tapes?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you want to Julie Ardenberg?
29:45
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, listen.
29:46
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you know about it?
29:47
[SPEAKER_01]: But I lived in South Park, a little bit.
29:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, South Park.
29:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And in the South West side, Toby and we, we know, they're like, listen, like, wow, wow.
29:56
[SPEAKER_03]: See you, it just I didn't see South with South with South with South with South with South.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let me tell you, let me tell you now you didn't trick it something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now it's gonna be South with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But listen, listen, when I...
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just throw it up that dude and give it a stab.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know the sound side that can add on the slide.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we throwing it up the dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What you're doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do what we do.
30:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do what we do.
30:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do what we do.
30:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do what we do.
30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I've just been different all my life, but I've never abandoned the beauty.
30:29
[SPEAKER_01]: of what people will call good, ghetto, boolean because there's a beauty in it.
30:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It teaches you how to survive in the terrain.
30:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So I saw that there's a survival technique that the hood also produces that some of the wealthiest minds have as well.
30:49
[SPEAKER_01]: It's those people in between that a performance, that don't realize that this hustle grind, no matter what mentality is necessary at every level of getting to the next thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to help inform because I was exposed to the more.
31:07
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31:08
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31:18
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31:20
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31:26
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31:34
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31:38
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[SPEAKER_03]: Glad I.
31:49
[SPEAKER_01]: It can be we can do the south so we can do we can do more than that too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can do yeah We can do Julia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can do Berkeley College of Music Student body president.
31:59
[SPEAKER_01]: We can do that Hall of Fame that you know what I mean and so I just want people to know you have permission To reach beyond what you've always known you have permission to go beyond what you've only been taught
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[SPEAKER_01]: and you've only experienced because people judge and make decisions based on the limitation of their greatest experience.
32:22
[SPEAKER_01]: We often get offended when they come to us with their limited experiences or limited judgments, but you can't get mad if they haven't experienced, so to keep doing the work, but they can experience more of you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's never been another willy more to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you do it like nobody else does it, and now you are a blueprint for people to try to
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just glad at this moment that you guys got an opportunity.
32:48
[SPEAKER_03]: But here's what I learned.
32:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I always learn things when I get an opportunity to sit with people.
32:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I learn that even though you can have as much to nasty and fired to be a hope dealer that life happens to us all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, to the people out there right now who are Christian and you love God and you're doing everything you're fasting, you're praying, you're tired and you're doing all the things that the church is told you to do, but you find yourself looking at the same issues that you've had before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can I just tell you that that doesn't mean that your kingdom Christianity doesn't work it just means that you're going through a human experience.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so what I continue to do is
33:22
[SPEAKER_03]: as I focus on James 1, 2, 3, 4, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: James 1, 2, 4, and it simply says, and I think I told you this another episode that it says, like, you know, countered our joy, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: When you face trials in many kinds, not gonna be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ain't no joy when you face in trials.
33:37
[SPEAKER_03]: You just like, what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I want to let you know that there is a level of joy that you can have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just a trajectory shift.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's always something good happening along all the tumultuous activities that are going on in your life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You just have to be so intentional.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're pointing it out, think about it.
33:53
[SPEAKER_03]: You watch it on a computer, a sail phone, a television, whatever you watch right now.
33:56
[SPEAKER_03]: That means guess what baby that bill got paid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Although that gas might not have got paid, but this got paid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you get an opportunity to look through something that's going to give you hope.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I've learned that for him, he's been through a lot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A mom who has some different issues on his birth, but he was like, nah, she, I made it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And his trajectory is this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna always see the good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That perspective, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so the perspective is what he sees.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So my challenge to you today as we land this play.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As I want you to ask yourself this question, is there something that I miss it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That could actually do my so good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And nine times out of 10, you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay, and you will find it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's your breath.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We gonna do that together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do this on every interview.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One, two, three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't you ever let life rest you so much so that you forget to catch a breath.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is the gift of the right now moment, as all you have control, that's where the fruits of the spirit show up in the right, how you gonna get through it, every storm runs out of rain, you're gonna breathe, though this is suicide prevention month, but for anybody dealing with it, know that you are not, all you may be lonely, never, ever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Doing the work, brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Indeed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Man, shout out to Major, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell him to go get that hope, Dillet Session.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Indeed, hope, Dillet Session make sure that you don't wear it and end music.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And let me tell you something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you check his Instagram, you check your social media.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Some are lit too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So to my young, flying savers out there, you think Major was going to hit you with a little something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to put a little something in your shot or not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just know it's just not a wedding song.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We turned up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he was from the south side.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The south side.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the south side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Flat out love you more love you more love you more