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- 0:00Let's see, I think and hope no, no neutral fan was Arsenal to
- 0:04win it, let's be honest. So yeah, I think again, a lot of
- 0:07it's to do with momentum and that they stop peaking at the
- 0:09right time you. Can't help but be delighted to
- 0:11see Dan actually get that treatment.
- 0:13I don't think there was any love lost for him at all like across
- 0:15the pitch because everyone seems to be like Dan actually got the
- 0:18ball. We're having him.
- 0:19How about we fellow Reds And welcome to this Manchester
- 0:22United review of the match last night versus Chelsea with those
- 0:26Spen Chaz and special guest Henry, Chelsea fan, Chelsea,
- 0:32Chelsea fan. Interesting one.
- 0:35Before we get into it, thank you very much to our subscribers and
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- 0:51But let's get into it. First of all, Henry, Mr.
- 0:54Chelsea, welcome to the podcast. Chaz in the last ones dead, you
- 0:59might be skiving based on the result.
- 1:01We did get the win, but you're here, so we appreciate it and
- 1:05give us a little intro. Who are you?
- 1:08Where do you come from? All that kind of good stuff.
- 1:10Yes, thanks. Thanks for having me.
- 1:12Yeah, I'm Henry. Yeah, originally from
- 1:15Nottingham, now living up in in in Manchester of all places.
- 1:19So watching the game last night in the pub surrounded by LED
- 1:22United fans, also too much fun. But but yeah, thanks for having
- 1:26me on. Appreciate you having me on.
- 1:28Love it and all, thanks for joining us.
- 1:29It's nice to have a different perspective and I'm not gonna
- 1:31lie, I'm pretty happy that our first guest is when we've won.
- 1:33So sorry about that mate. However, it'll be really good to
- 1:37get in some of the details and as you said in a little preview,
- 1:40you can give us a bit of a reality checkmate.
- 1:42So I'm looking forward to that. I.
- 1:43Didn't go well. Yeah, that sort of backfired.
- 1:47Yeah. We'll keep quiet about that 1, I
- 1:48think. But yeah, result reaction.
- 1:51So yeah, from a United point of view, first win, I couldn't
- 1:54believe this at Stamford Bridge for six years.
- 1:57That's a long time. And then yeah, league double now
- 2:00for us and 10 point gap opened up, which is even more important
- 2:05with some of the results that have kind of happened this
- 2:07weekend, which we'll get into. And I also didn't realize most
- 2:10drawn fixture in Premier League history until yesterday.
- 2:13So the omens weren't great. And I probably should have
- 2:15looked at that before I made my crazy prediction of all the
- 2:18goals and and the win. But none of us went for a draw
- 2:21and maybe we should have. Obviously it didn't happen in
- 2:24the end but as we always do, let's get into those score
- 2:27predictions that we made. We all put a couple of quid on
- 2:30the bats as well. None of us made any money.
- 2:33So Henry, you said 21 Chelsea, but you do get a green tip for
- 2:38A2 new goal. Yeah, that, that's a win if
- 2:41nothing else. But yeah, no, I mean, the amount
- 2:46of, I know we'll get into it, but the amount of chances that
- 2:48we had, it could quite easily be in two, one some.
- 2:51That's what I'm clinging on to at the moment.
- 2:53Fair 1, Fair one and Jazz, you went the other way.
- 2:56You went two on United and you didn't get any of the scores,
- 2:59right, I don't think from from memory.
- 3:00No, I had Bruno and Bueno. So yeah, didn't go for junior
- 3:06and then obviously Chelsea didn't score.
- 3:08So a prediction of I think I went, I think I went Neto.
- 3:12Yeah, yeah. So yeah, not got the result
- 3:16right, which is the main thing. I confidently posted out the
- 3:20bets as well, thinking there's three bets here, one of them
- 3:22must be closed. And we were all all off the
- 3:24money. So fantastic.
- 3:25But yeah, I went for a bonkers 32.
- 3:28The game was pretty end to end as we're getting to.
- 3:30But yeah, 3/2 was was miles away from the eventual one.
- 3:34No result. But I also get a green tick for
- 3:36a for a CUNY goal, but no money unfortunately.
- 3:40And yeah, before we get into the moments, lineups were were
- 3:42interesting. Henry, let's start with Chelsea.
- 3:45Thoughts from you? What I was actually all right
- 3:48with the lineup, to be fair, obviously it was a big loss
- 3:51without not having Pedro up top. That was always going to be a
- 3:56big loss. But I actually thought that with
- 3:58the lap coming in at that again, that was a bit of a concern pre
- 4:01match, but, and again, I know we'll get into more detail, but
- 4:04I think I thought he did pretty well.
- 4:07And then, yeah, as I said on my on my little preview snippet, I
- 4:11thought Enzo would would come in and and sort of bust the show,
- 4:14which I felt like he, I felt like he held his own, did all
- 4:18right. But yeah, overall I was, I was
- 4:20quite happy with the team selection.
- 4:22To be fair, I didn't. I didn't really have too too
- 4:24many gripes. Did you not get confused by
- 4:26Fernandez's? You were you were raising about
- 4:291:00 and then, you know, another one, another one stepped up.
- 4:34No, Yeah, I was, I was worried about Enzo coming in and I
- 4:37thought I could see that such as in the in the preview, I could
- 4:40see the stories happening. You know, Enzo's back, Mr.
- 4:42Chelsea slapping us, but no arm band, which if I was interested
- 4:46in Tri-state or getting it. Yeah.
- 4:49Well, that's obviously that's all the sort of field stuff and
- 4:52that led to the suspension. But I do feel like they've sort
- 4:55of made bit of a mountain out of a mold of the whole thing
- 4:58really. I know that.
- 4:59I think as Charles said on the on the preview, so there's a bit
- 5:02of a flirt there with Madrid if you like.
- 5:04But I mean, who wouldn't, to be honest?
- 5:07I think anyone that's like comedy football would probably
- 5:09be quite keen to go and play for Madrid.
- 5:11And I think in terms of what he actually said and what the sort
- 5:14of media presenter I think has, maybe it's slightly lost in
- 5:18translation. But yeah, I thought that the
- 5:20ban, the too much ban would have been enough that the stripping
- 5:24the armband felt a bit excessive, to be honest.
- 5:26But you know. Yeah, I think considering I
- 5:28think he was one of your better players yesterday, I think he
- 5:32did actually kind of dictate things quite well in the field
- 5:34and his energy was good. So just think like I think David
- 5:38Brent's just kind of was he wants to say, and I fight his
- 5:41nose despite his face and that kind of stuff.
- 5:43I think he's just kind of a bit of that going on.
- 5:44Maybe just give him the one match ban against Port Vale and
- 5:48then he did the city game as well.
- 5:49Just felt like he is such an important player here.
- 5:52Why? Like he wasn't that bad.
- 5:56And I think he's just trying to be, he's trying so hard to be
- 5:58like a a new age authoritative kind of manager.
- 6:02And it's just not, it's causing more harm than good, as you can
- 6:08see from the results recently. And it's like he's one of your
- 6:10best players and it's yeah, it was just a bit bit much because
- 6:12you did see him play yesterday and and, and I thought he was
- 6:16good. So yeah, yeah, I think he's just
- 6:18a bit of a stupid decision. Like and like, like you said, it
- 6:21wasn't like he didn't say I want to go to Real Madrid.
- 6:24He said I wouldn't mind having in Spain or Madrid.
- 6:27Like I'm sure there is a little flirts there, but I think it was
- 6:31a bit, yeah, a bit stupid really of of Brent to do that.
- 6:36Exactly, I completely agree as well.
- 6:38I think. I think it's probably a sign of
- 6:41how Brent to to quote you is kind of he's kind of perceived
- 6:47in the in the dressing room, to be honest.
- 6:49I think that since he's come in, I think he's probably struggled
- 6:52to gain the respect of kind of a lot of the players and, and
- 6:54probably ends up being one of them, you know, World Cup
- 6:57winner. And then when you look at sort
- 6:59of Rossini as kind of background in his footballing career in
- 7:02itself, it sort of pales into insignificance by comparison,
- 7:05doesn't it? So, you know, that appointment,
- 7:07obviously that's a that's a pod in itself.
- 7:09But that appointment, you know, was always going to be always
- 7:13going to be a struggle, I think. But yeah.
- 7:15And now it's now it's showing signs of, you know, his
- 7:18inexperience. And like you say, it's it just
- 7:20looks a bit performative, like most of the things that he does,
- 7:22to be honest. Yeah, yeah.
- 7:26Which has on the United side interest.
- 7:28Very interesting lineup from us. What do?
- 7:29What do you think? Well, obviously our preview is
- 7:33pre the euro news, so I get me and you obviously texted me.
- 7:38We found out euro's out. Like OK, I start getting a lot
- 7:41more worried and we still weren't sure if probably we're
- 7:43going to start. So I was like, OK, what we're
- 7:45going to do? Like could it be Shore and
- 7:48Maserati Shore and Heaven sensor back or would it be Mesrari?
- 7:54I think we did actually say to you fair that we think it
- 7:56probably would be Mesrari and keep Shore and Dallow at left
- 7:59and right back. And yeah, I wasn't like
- 8:03massively confident going into it.
- 8:05I was happy when I saw Jed Pedro was out because he's in good
- 8:09form. But I guess thinking obviously
- 8:13again, Delapse grew big and physical.
- 8:15So I thought they would obviously try and Chuck him on
- 8:17Heaven, which he kind of did, but we'll get into it.
- 8:19But Heaven kind of really did hold his own throughout the
- 8:22whole game. So yeah.
- 8:24And then Cesco, I think I actually, I think we said maybe
- 8:28it would be the Embrymo Ahmad and Kunya as a primary.
- 8:32I did. So I was happy to see Cesco.
- 8:35I'm always happy to see Cesco starting.
- 8:37So again, I was happy with happy with the the team.
- 8:40You couldn't really change much. It's it's you could have changed
- 8:44who was the centre back pairing. You could have changed Ahmad for
- 8:47Impremo or Cesco or one of those because the squad's so thin, not
- 8:52much you could do. But I did like to see Jim
- 8:55Thwaites was on the bench. I've heard a lot of good things
- 8:57about him and they've got kind of high hopes for him.
- 9:00Didn't I knew he wasn't going to go on.
- 9:01He's probably going to get on. If you're like falling up, you
- 9:04might whack him on, but that was never going to happen so.
- 9:06But nice to see him on the bench getting that experience as well.
- 9:09Yeah, his first time and nice to see Carrick kind of promoting
- 9:13youth again, which is good. And just on that, you know, the
- 9:16shining star of the youth system so far.
- 9:18I was delighted to see me and he start and I was worried about
- 9:21where he was at fitness wise. But you know, I think we
- 9:24mentioned on the last the last part not big Agate fans and I
- 9:27think he weakens as significantly.
- 9:29So when I started him I thought, OK, even probably a 50% main is
- 9:33is better than him. So I was I was just see him in
- 9:36the lineup. Yeah, all right, all around then
- 9:38all of us pretty happy with the line UPS.
- 9:40Let's get into it. This is where the spice might
- 9:42happen. Do we disagree?
- 9:44So I'm not going to go through it minute by minute because
- 9:47you'll have probably seen the match.
- 9:48I'll listen to the match as well.
- 9:49But let's cover off some of the the bigger things.
- 9:51I think the first thing and note for me and and we definitely
- 9:55pipe up if you think this is if he's too red biased and we're
- 9:58missing some of the key moments but that haven't Cliff Palmer
- 10:03outside the area absolutely cleaned him out.
- 10:05One of our mates, he's a Liverpool fan, he shot straight
- 10:08in and was like, I was sure got away with that in terms of a
- 10:10penalty. But from your point of view,
- 10:12what do you think? Yeah, it's difficult one,
- 10:16because obviously it's sort of two players coming to coming
- 10:18together at the same time as that sort of sandwich 1, won't
- 10:20it? But I think, yeah, I think
- 10:23anyway, I think generally it's going to get 9 times out of 10,
- 10:26that's probably going to get given and particularly if it's
- 10:28somewhere else on the pitch. But I'm guessing because it was
- 10:30close to the edge of the area, you know, given the benefit of
- 10:33the doubt. But yes, I mean, obviously from
- 10:36a Chelsea fan, I'd like to see that given.
- 10:38But but yeah, it did. Like in some ways it didn't
- 10:41surprise me that it wasn't. I was very confused when we were
- 10:44chatting, yeah. Yeah, I was like, I was really
- 10:47worried because I was like, I thought both were fouls.
- 10:49But then I guess I don't really know how the rule is that
- 10:53obviously because is because the bow was outside the area by
- 10:56heaven that make the penalty, which was sure, which was
- 10:59definitely a foul couldn't be given because the foul had
- 11:02already happened. I still don't.
- 11:03I'm still confused. Yeah, I all I know for sure is
- 11:07because it ended up being something outside of the box
- 11:10like all day I can do. Because that all happened first,
- 11:13basically, yeah. Yeah, but but I don't.
- 11:15Understand why you didn't get the free kick there.
- 11:19I know, I know because the referee didn't give it, so they
- 11:21can't overrule him if he's outside the box.
- 11:23Basically, there we go. That's what I.
- 11:26Confused because it was like it definitely.
- 11:28Yeah, and you know, only see VA are kind of rewinding and Fast
- 11:31forward into lots of moments. So I'm surprised that they
- 11:33didn't look at kind of the knock on bit, but I was happy that
- 11:36they didn't. Yeah.
- 11:38Yeah, like you say, Chaz, it's sort of two separate fouls.
- 11:40I think that was the point, because it panned to Rosina on
- 11:44the sideline and it looked like that's exactly what he was
- 11:47saying. He was like, what was a free
- 11:48kick then? Yeah, you know, if it's not, if
- 11:50it's not a penalty. And so, you know, even if you're
- 11:52not going to give a foul for the second one, which was in the
- 11:54area and there's still a foul outside the area with the firm.
- 11:57Yeah, with the first child. But yeah, because the ref didn't
- 12:00give it, he they can't just give a new decision basically for
- 12:03something to happen because he was reviewing the town.
- 12:05Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very happy about that result
- 12:10because yeah, I was very concerned as I was definitely a
- 12:13penalty. So yeah, please.
- 12:14Thanks for that news. And a bit of a raw stuff in
- 12:18heaven. I thought, oh, he's up for it,
- 12:20but still up for it because he went playing in.
- 12:22But that was one. And then a big moment, Estebao
- 12:25Hamstring. And I felt this was this was
- 12:28another thing where I just saw the headline straight away and I
- 12:30was, Oh no, Ghana actually coming on straight away.
- 12:32I thought he's going to be sold for it.
- 12:34And I could just see it now coming back to harness.
- 12:36But what did you think at that moment, Henry?
- 12:38Were you happy to see Ghana actually come on or absolutely
- 12:41not? Yeah, Esteval, I felt, I felt
- 12:46that that was a really big like turning point in the game as
- 12:48well, because obviously just sort of brushed the post with
- 12:51one. Yeah.
- 12:52Cross goal and he was and he'd sort of run at Luke Shaw and
- 12:55Luke Shaw looked a bit, you know, as I said in the sort of
- 12:58preview, I was predicting that might be Neto and he might do
- 13:00that. But yeah, Esteval was appeared
- 13:03like he might have Luke Shaw's number and whipped that one
- 13:06across the across goal and then yeah, next minute he pulls up
- 13:09with the hammy and it's like. And he's he's quality about as
- 13:14well. So it's a huge loss losing him.
- 13:16And then yeah, Gnacho is no replacement.
- 13:21No, to be fair, you actually nailed it because when Gannacho
- 13:23came on, he went left any and then that's actually went right
- 13:26and then so he ended up being again Shaw and but yeah, until
- 13:30then it was absolutely natural when he was going down the left
- 13:32at the low. But Allo man's up as well.
- 13:36My notes weren't very extensive with the 1st 20, even 30 because
- 13:39I think you, you had the, you had the edge and we were
- 13:42rubbish. And Luke Shaw as well.
- 13:43I know we're down nose, we're super shaky.
- 13:45And then, then, then 1st 2020 odd minutes and we didn't start
- 13:48very well. Yeah, well, that's, and that's
- 13:51the absolute opposite of what happened at your place because
- 13:54like, obviously I know Sanchez got sent off in like the first 8
- 13:56minutes or whatever it was at your place.
- 13:58But yeah, you guys came out the box at Old Trafford.
- 14:02And so, yeah, it was a bit, it was a bit weird.
- 14:04But yeah, we, I thought that we, yeah, certainly dominated,
- 14:06dominated those, those 1st 20 minutes.
- 14:08And I was quite feeling quite good about things at that point.
- 14:11We were each other, yeah, guys messaging like it felt very, it
- 14:17was as bad as the Leeds game. There was a bit more energy
- 14:21there, but we weren't like there's the defense weren't
- 14:25connecting well on the board together and they feel we're
- 14:27connecting with each other. Like there was lots of like
- 14:30breakaway chances and the passes are just being mispassed and
- 14:33misplaced. And so, yeah, I was a bit
- 14:35worried at that point, like, and then you guys were also creating
- 14:39chances, looking good in the end.
- 14:41Like you mentioned before, Esteva, when he went off, I
- 14:43thought that's good for us. Slightly concerned about going
- 14:46back to initially and then we'll get to man much later.
- 14:49But he's probably my man of Manchester United and he was
- 14:53absolutely awful. But every time he's like, he's
- 14:56always wondering if he's growing goal or he's in space.
- 15:00You kind of like probably not that worried because he's
- 15:02probably kind of look it up like you did for us the whole of the
- 15:05season before we sell them to you.
- 15:07So yeah, man of the match probably going at you.
- 15:11Oh yeah, he was, he was woeful. He just, it's like he just
- 15:14sprints with it and then he gets a point.
- 15:17He's like, oh, I need to actually do something now.
- 15:18And then sort of folds over or, or then just checks back inside
- 15:21and played it back to basically where he came from.
- 15:23So yeah, awful. He was dreadful.
- 15:27Why do I think he's not going to the last time you mentioned John
- 15:29natural today. Let's let's see.
- 15:31But then there was there's a glimmer for the most an amazing
- 15:35ball down the wing from Bruno and Blamel through and I thought
- 15:38here we go put a great ball across, which is something to
- 15:41think about later as well. Cunha coming on to it.
- 15:45I renders first touch. It should have scored and I was
- 15:47like, that is a big, big missed opportunity because they're not
- 15:49much after Enzo Fernandez. Fernandez had a big opportunity.
- 15:54He kind of, he robbed the ball of Masri, you know, in centre
- 15:57half, obviously not in his in his main position and about 8
- 16:00yards out. I thought he's going to score
- 16:02it, yeah. I had to score.
- 16:04Sorry, Henry, Chaz knows this. If I put a player into my
- 16:07fantasy football team then they're screwed.
- 16:09So I'm taking a bit of sabotage. Yeah, thanks for that.
- 16:14Fully jinxed him. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah.
- 16:18Should have buried that. It didn't.
- 16:20Firstly, it was great, you know, winning it back and then, and
- 16:22you can obviously see what he's trying to do, but, you know,
- 16:24just pop it in the far corner. But yeah, just just didn't bring
- 16:27it back. Enough.
- 16:28It was great. He stole it and he, because he
- 16:30was Mazarin was it? I can't remember who the other
- 16:32player was. We kind of cut inside.
- 16:34Really nice bit of football, personal density to to make the
- 16:37tackle and steal the ball and then that little touch inside
- 16:40and then, yeah, it was just missing the finish, which again,
- 16:43it was like the Esteval one. I thought it was going in.
- 16:45Yeah. And he just kind of just just
- 16:47crept wide again. So yeah, very pleased about
- 16:51that. And then?
- 16:53Next big moment was for you Chelsea and you had the ball in
- 16:57the net from an offside goal from Dallas Palmer in an offside
- 17:00position. Credit across and again, I
- 17:03thought. It was pretty far.
- 17:04There was, I think there was 2, two of them off, wasn't it?
- 17:07Well, two or three of them were, actually.
- 17:09Yeah, I think, I think you might be right.
- 17:11Yeah, nicely worked, but yeah, obviously offside.
- 17:13So it's, you know, yeah. And that was the thing where it
- 17:17felt like we were really building momentum and that would
- 17:19have been the perfect time to perfect time to score as well.
- 17:21But yeah, so really frustrating when that was flagged off site
- 17:25right goes. Happy and then for final that
- 17:30guy I actually do rate him as a player, but is he the most
- 17:33injured man in the Premier League?
- 17:34Like he obviously went up for that challenge of customary on
- 17:37Sanchez and obviously I I've actually broken 2 ribs and
- 17:41punched in my lungs so I can relate but I'm not a big guy.
- 17:43I think he's a bit. He's a broken rib, right?
- 17:47It looks at least a big bruise, I think it was a bad one but
- 17:51goes off again. Yeah, and he was actually off
- 17:54then for when when you guys scored as well.
- 17:56So yeah, but he yeah, he's yeah, so injury prone like.
- 18:02And I think that's been a big, big problem for him.
- 18:05He's never really kind of got going at Chelsea.
- 18:07I remember when he was at Leicester and he was he was
- 18:09great, absolute rock. And then he's come towards.
- 18:11But it's just been so stop, start, you know that he hasn't
- 18:14really got going. Yeah, he's so injury prone him.
- 18:17It's like him and Rhys James, just permanently, you know, in
- 18:20and out of the medical office spot.
- 18:23Yeah, well and then sorry, not sorry Henry able get ready for
- 18:27the start of the Bruno loving because then he's made our goal
- 18:32to be fair out of nowhere really like say we had a couple of
- 18:34moments, but I thought you definitely had the share of the
- 18:37first half. But he's just left gun actual
- 18:40for dead down that wing again, question marks over gun actual
- 18:43and the actual left he's put into stopping.
- 18:44But great ball into Cunya running onto it and what
- 18:48finished just. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 18:51Like I was thinking about if Ganache was in that situation,
- 18:55he would just cut back in. But then Bruno actually carried
- 18:58on to the byline, obviously put like a quality ball.
- 19:01And then, yeah, amazing finish from Kuna.
- 19:02Like basically what you should have done for the one where you
- 19:06had that heavy touch. It's a very similar chance and
- 19:10an amazing finish. So yeah, complete like against
- 19:13the run of play didn't really deserve it.
- 19:15Like I think we were coming second, like maybe the last 10
- 19:19minutes before half time, I think we were starting to play a
- 19:22little bit better. I thought Kobe was getting on
- 19:24the ball a bit more and then trying to progress, play forward
- 19:28a bit more. They were still a bit sloppy.
- 19:30And so, yeah, it's definitely going to run a play.
- 19:32And you definitely kind of dominated that first half.
- 19:36But yeah, it's quality. Quality finished from from
- 19:39Kunio. So.
- 19:40And then Bruno was just 18, I think it is now.
- 19:43So it's easy. Two off people in it and one off
- 19:463 off breaking it, surely. Yeah, sure, he's going to do it.
- 19:51Five games to go. Quite a lot than a set plays
- 19:54though, so it's a bit different. Have you seen, have you seen
- 19:58the, have you seen the, the recent?
- 20:01Like so every year, like previous year when they talked
- 20:03about the SIS record, no one's ever ever mentioned set pieces
- 20:07before. It's always just been assists
- 20:08doesn't matter. And then since, oh really, it's
- 20:11it's Bruno now this year, this is the first time they've ever
- 20:14mentioned set piece assists. It's like, yeah, who cares?
- 20:16It's still hard thing to do. It's just like, I think they're
- 20:20just desperate for Arsenal slash Declan Rice to get it,
- 20:25especially like an English player going it going into the
- 20:27World Cup. I think it's that they have an
- 20:29agenda there. But I think, I think if he, if
- 20:32he breaks it, which I think he will do, they've got to give it
- 20:34to him, surely. Yeah.
- 20:37I mean, yeah, as a even as a Chelsea fan, Fernandez has been
- 20:40and I've been quite critical of him in the past, but but you
- 20:43can't really have a fault is kind of output.
- 20:45And this year he's, he has been on really up to be fair, so.
- 20:48Yeah, it's just the risk he takes.
- 20:50And it's, that's why like I was, I messaged in our group like
- 20:54saying like he's everyone of those hearts.
- 20:56We he's trying, it's trying, it's not quite working, but you
- 21:00know, he's going to keep trying and one will come off.
- 21:01And it did like it's probably about 10 minutes after I sent
- 21:04that text and he did actually pull off that another kind of
- 21:07quality run. And then there's the assistant
- 21:10across. And it's like that's why he
- 21:12does. And that's what you want from
- 21:14these kind of players is to keep trying.
- 21:15Because if he gave up every game where he messed the pass up,
- 21:18then he probably had three assists because he does
- 21:21misplaced passes like every single game.
- 21:23But his numbers are so good because he just keeps going.
- 21:27And fair play to Bruno said. He has also said that he's
- 21:30getting more assists because we're actually taking chances as
- 21:32well. And that finish from Cunya was
- 21:34pretty special, you know, the first time.
- 21:37And Emily, you won't know this, but Jazz is pretty famous for
- 21:39his dancing and he has promised us to replicate the actually
- 21:43can't. Remember what I said I'd do?
- 21:46It's so typical, isn't it? But yeah, you can.
- 21:49Check the recordings, get AI to check and find out what I
- 21:52actually said. I'm going to go back and I'm
- 21:54holding you to that by the by the end of the season.
- 21:57But yeah, genuinely, I kind of went into half time thinking
- 22:00that. Obviously I'm like, I absolutely
- 22:02take that because I thought we weren't great.
- 22:04But I think what I took a little bit of heart from this because I
- 22:07watched Chelsea City and I thought you started that really
- 22:10well. And then obviously, you know,
- 22:11City kind of turned up a bit more in the second-half, but how
- 22:15are you feeling at halftime, Henry?
- 22:18Pretty disconsolate and I imagine everyone else was as
- 22:20well, to be fair in Yeah, as Charles said, I felt like we, I
- 22:24felt that we kind of bossed the first half really.
- 22:27And then yeah, to go in one nil down.
- 22:29I knew a real kind of sucker punch late in the half as well.
- 22:32So not even an opportunity really to sort of try and get
- 22:34level things up before half time.
- 22:36So yeah, yeah, pretty frustrated at that point, but obviously
- 22:40hoping that we can can turn it around in the second-half.
- 22:44Yeah, but actually going into it, we had to start a lot
- 22:46better, I thought. And there was some really nice
- 22:49link up between Bruno and Junior.
- 22:51Just loved kind of seeing that. I just think finally Bruno's got
- 22:54a bit of a kindred spirit in Cuno, where he's just on the
- 22:56same wavelength and they just love to kind of manipulate the
- 22:59ball together. So that was good to see.
- 23:01But to be honest, the biggest moment really the start of the
- 23:04first half was the Delap header that smashed off the bathroom
- 23:07from a net or cross. So yeah, close on that, Henry.
- 23:11Yeah, yeah. Great header, great header.
- 23:13Like a real leap that as well to get up above everyone else.
- 23:16And yeah, so again, so frustrating.
- 23:18You know, after the first half with the Enzo one and the
- 23:22Esteban one, and then hit the bar again and it's just, yeah,
- 23:25it's just it felt at that point it felt like it's just not going
- 23:27to be our day. So yeah, yeah, really
- 23:30frustrating. Yeah, Lemons was nowhere as
- 23:31well, was he? He was like, if that was on
- 23:34target, that was that was a goal, Yes.
- 23:36And there was no yeah, he was nowhere.
- 23:37So yeah, it was a good. Deal.
- 23:41We wrote our look a bit jazz and then for Finer had two moments.
- 23:43He nearly's got an on goal off off a Bruno pass.
- 23:47To be fair, we'll probably get to Sanchez at some point.
- 23:50Henry don't really rate him at all but it was a good save down
- 23:53to his left just to tip it around the post.
- 23:55But then he almost scored. To be fair, when I restore it
- 23:58from a handball at the other end and I thought it was another
- 24:01identical Dilap header but he basically handballed it onto
- 24:05Mazarovi's head. Yeah, well, I don't know that I
- 24:08couldn't, I couldn't work out from the replay whether it was
- 24:10Mazarovi that sort of hit his hand or whether it was for
- 24:12finest. But either way, yeah, I don't, I
- 24:14don't think it would have counted either way, to be
- 24:16honest. But yeah, I mean that the, the,
- 24:20the thing about Sanchez is he's actually a really good shot
- 24:23stopper and I think that's probably why we've stuck with
- 24:25him for as long as we have. He is a good shot stopper, but
- 24:28it's everything else that he does, You know, his distribution
- 24:30is pretty poor. It's decision making is
- 24:32terrible. And yeah, it's just.
- 24:36And then, yeah, it's just a bit of a light, but particularly on
- 24:38set pieces, you know, corners and things like that, he's
- 24:40always just flapping around. So yeah, he's he's one that's
- 24:44got to go. We've got to replace him in the
- 24:45summer. I.
- 24:46Didn't think he actually had a bad, yeah, you have a bad game
- 24:50this day. Like obviously he wasn't at
- 24:51fault for the goal. I didn't think he really made,
- 24:54Yeah, he didn't have any clangers where he dropped
- 24:56crosses or anything like that. But I've seen, obviously I've
- 24:59seen lots of games when he has Adam there obviously earlier in
- 25:03the season, but he wasn't so bad yesterday, was he?
- 25:07No, he wasn't. But I think that's probably a
- 25:10reflection of kind of how the game went in that you guys in
- 25:13the first half, particularly you, you basically had one like
- 25:16real clear cut chance, didn't you?
- 25:17And you scored. So I felt like he didn't
- 25:19actually have that much to do as particularly in the first half.
- 25:25So that I think that's probably why he was relatively quiet.
- 25:29And but it was, yeah, it was our front men that just couldn't
- 25:33finish, which let us down. Chance.
- 25:36From our perspective, then there wasn't much more like in the
- 25:40games. A couple of the points we'll
- 25:41cover off, but I kind of thought that we needed a bit more energy
- 25:46earlier on and carried kind of waited too long for me to kind
- 25:49of make a change. What do you think?
- 25:51Yeah, I thought I on the whole, I thought the second-half is
- 25:54better from our perspective, not I still don't think we were the
- 25:57better team, but I think we limited the chances better.
- 26:00It was especially because obviously you're pushing on this
- 26:04more, but I thought we were better in possession, kind of
- 26:07linking up better create a couple of chances.
- 26:11Nothing. Again, nothing clear cut, but I
- 26:13think the second-half is definitely better.
- 26:14Bruno and Toby were linking it well.
- 26:16But I agree with the Subs again, I think that's one of my main
- 26:20criticism of characters. Some of the things happened too
- 26:22late. And I was saying I think we was
- 26:24in the preview. Like man in in a midfield job
- 26:27can do a lot even if he's not paying the 10 because of his
- 26:30energy and his work rate. He's a great player to bring on.
- 26:33I think he could have come on early because I actually thought
- 26:35it plays sort of whatever it was. 14 minute cameo thought he
- 26:38was really good, like getting stuck in, linking up well.
- 26:42And so yeah, I agree. Like just maybe freshen up a bit
- 26:47sooner. But.
- 26:51We won the game, so it can't be too critical of Carrick for it.
- 26:56But yeah, it's one of these things in my back, in my head,
- 26:58I'm just like, why does he wait so long?
- 27:01And we were under the cost, obviously, as you'd expect,
- 27:04getting close to the 90th minute, like maybe a bit of
- 27:07energy could have eased some of that pressure.
- 27:10Yeah, because there was some chances, you know, Henry and
- 27:13Casey though with a long range effort, just why the hit is so
- 27:16well. And when I first started, I
- 27:18thought I was going close and I think Lemons was getting nowhere
- 27:21near it. And so I was worried about that
- 27:22one. But other than that, any other
- 27:25things that kind of came out to you in terms of points or
- 27:28chances? Because I don't remember much
- 27:30more to be honest. Yeah, I said one was a great
- 27:33strike. He he's definitely got that in
- 27:35his locker. We've seen that before.
- 27:36But yeah, it was Speaking of substitutions, I've I found
- 27:42Brent's decision to to take Gusto off was a really strange
- 27:49one. I think that while substitutions
- 27:51generally were quite strange. Yeah, it's.
- 27:53Hard to say. All of them, right?
- 27:54Two defenders on 2. Defenders on Yeah, yeah.
- 27:57So that was really bizarre in itself.
- 27:59And I actually felt that Gusto was having quite a bit of
- 28:02success down the right, and he was putting in some, like him
- 28:04and NATO were both putting in some nice balls.
- 28:06So into the box. So yeah, really weird decision.
- 28:10And it was interesting. I watched it as the sort of
- 28:12players were coming on, on and off as well.
- 28:14And Gusto sort of raised his eyebrows as he left, as if to be
- 28:17like, I've no idea why I've been dragged there.
- 28:19And he obviously felt like he was having a pretty good game as
- 28:21well. So yeah, that was a bit strange.
- 28:23And I noticed when we brought Lavier on as well, Recenia sort
- 28:27of trying to say something. And this goes back to my point
- 28:29earlier about the kind of I don't think that people dressing
- 28:32room really bought into. I'm sure I saw that Lavia kind
- 28:35of looked at him as he was talking in his ear and was like,
- 28:37it looks as if to be like, shut up, mate, what are you going on
- 28:40about? And then just ran on.
- 28:43So yeah, just these little, little signs that just kind of
- 28:46show that things aren't things aren't too rosy in the dressing
- 28:50room. But yeah, with with Subs.
- 28:53Yeah, when he brought on Caliber and I can't believe the guy's
- 28:56name because. A champion that's.
- 28:58It yeah and they're like 2 defensive players.
- 29:00I'm like you're 1 nil down. It's not like you're 4 nil down.
- 29:04You're trying to damage control like you're at home.
- 29:06You have to win this game to give yourself a real chance and
- 29:09he's checking on 2 defenders. It's a very nice hammering used
- 29:13to do he used to do he's set sort of Subs and no matter what
- 29:17the game state is he just I'm going to bring on 2 defenders.
- 29:20It's like, it's odd. It's like, are you watching the
- 29:24game? Are you seeing what's needed?
- 29:25We need a goal. OK, yeah, bring guard, bring a
- 29:28couple defenders out. That'll work.
- 29:30Yeah, I think the only thing that you can probably say in its
- 29:32defence is that obviously we are quite depleted in terms of, you
- 29:37know, Pedro's out. I'm.
- 29:38Not even asked. About got Esteban going into
- 29:40it's not. The biggest scout on the planet?
- 29:42There's about 4 million. Of you, yeah.
- 29:45The people that are actually going to come out and do
- 29:46something that's different, yeah.
- 29:51But yeah, I think probably clutching at straws time I
- 29:53defend the senior there to go. Yeah, yeah, The only other
- 29:57points I've really got as well for the rest of the match was do
- 29:59you reckon Dello's letting Ghana out of his pocket yet?
- 30:02I love some of their moments. In terms of Mazra, we absolutely
- 30:05snapped him as well in a tackle and one for us, really Henry?
- 30:08But you can't help but be delighted to see Ghana actually
- 30:11get our treatment because like I said, when he came out of his
- 30:13fart, this is guy written on that you're going to score and
- 30:16you know, do you want an in daft celebration something?
- 30:18But it felt like every single player right?
- 30:20To me, it kind of summed up who he is as a character because I
- 30:23don't think there was any love lost for him at all.
- 30:25Like across the pitch, because everyone seems to be like down
- 30:28actors got the ball. We're having him.
- 30:30And yeah, Delo did a right job. And then he just.
- 30:33Yeah, basically like tackled him then sort of threw it through
- 30:37him to the floor, but in a aggressive but fairway and like
- 30:41you'd see. And it always, it was like, I
- 30:42think Gun actually looked back at him and Daley just kind of
- 30:45like stared for him. It was just like, I'm just
- 30:46cracking on like. So I enjoyed that.
- 30:48And then yeah, I think Bruno kind of shrugged him off.
- 30:52Sure did the same thing at some point as well.
- 30:54Like I think sure even put one on his Instagram and Bruno's
- 30:56comment tip. So yeah, I like that.
- 30:59So again, it shows like if you leave a club in the right way,
- 31:03that wouldn't happen. You might still do it a big
- 31:05challenge. But the the social media
- 31:07comments shows he was probably a bit toxic within the squad last
- 31:13season. And I would be surprised if it's
- 31:15similar in this Chelsea squad. Like no one seems to obviously
- 31:19the fans don't like him and he's not done much.
- 31:22He's deleting social media. It's just like he's just.
- 31:27Yeah, it's just wrong, Guinea. Yeah.
- 31:29Yeah. And that, yeah, it's just like a
- 31:31virus in the changing room, I think, to be honest.
- 31:34But yeah, yeah, wouldn't surprise, wouldn't surprise me
- 31:36if we again, we tried to offload him.
- 31:38And based on that performance alone, I'd be quite happy if
- 31:41that happened. He was.
- 31:41Yeah. He was dreadful.
- 31:42He just, but I, I get, I can only assume it's like a
- 31:47confidence thing because he does, he does run it like it
- 31:50runs down the wing. But then every single time
- 31:52without fail, it would just check back inside and just knock
- 31:55it back inside. And you know what the fans are
- 31:57looking looking for. And it froze from to run past
- 32:00people, you know, like Esteval was on the other side.
- 32:02But yeah, he just doesn't have an edge locker and it doesn't
- 32:05seem so. Yeah, no refunds mate, No
- 32:08refunds. Yeah, well, sort of thing on
- 32:12sort of thing on Paddy Power that it was like, it's pretty
- 32:14impressive to be booed by both sets of fans in the same
- 32:18stadium. I was like, yeah, that's fair.
- 32:21Yeah, he's a bit of a right. I'm going to say it.
- 32:24I mean, Henry, I play football with you and you put yourself
- 32:26about and I reckon even you'd fancy a bit of a snap on getting
- 32:29actually just that type of player in a. 100%, yeah, yeah.
- 32:33And I can completely understand that United Boys would I would
- 32:36want to chop him as well. Yeah, definitely.
- 32:38Brilliant, brilliant. One more question I have for
- 32:42you, Henry. Something I spotted might just
- 32:44be missing it, but Enzo, did he kind of take himself off as he
- 32:49is he fully gone? Because he seemed to go down and
- 32:52he just was like immediately, that's me.
- 32:53I thought he got up all right. Yeah, yeah, it was from.
- 32:58Yeah. I thought it was not like a bad
- 33:00one, yeah. Yeah, All right.
- 33:03Maybe miss me just just trying to stir the pot a little bit,
- 33:06but I didn't like that. You know better, right, DNS.
- 33:08But I wanted to, you know, women's be hanging off before
- 33:10he's low enough to be honest. Fake news from you, Spenny.
- 33:13I don't, I don't, I don't. Might be spreading newsroom
- 33:16classic. I'm just trying to, you know,
- 33:18I'm prodding a little bit, but I'm very agreeable.
- 33:21I like it, I like it, but now big win for us.
- 33:24Obviously not a classic game, not what any of us predicted,
- 33:28but happy to get it in terms of player rating to start with you,
- 33:32Henry, kind of good and bad. Anyone kind of stood out to you
- 33:34that we've not really mentioned or anyone you want to emphasize?
- 33:38Well, I think that did pretty well.
- 33:40He put himself about he was physical or taught, he ran, you
- 33:44know, a lot, which is what you're looking for from your 9
- 33:47as well. But yeah, so his hold up play
- 33:50was pretty good. So yeah, I thought, I thought he
- 33:52did, he did well because yeah, pretty much.
- 33:56I thought as soon as we use Pedro, I thought I would we're
- 33:58we're done here. I thought midfield, Enzo,
- 34:02Casseda, I thought they did really well and I, I actually
- 34:05felt that we kind of got the got the better of you guys really in
- 34:08the second-half. There was a period where there's
- 34:10some really nice play between, Yeah, May knew Kunya and Bruno.
- 34:14They seem to be thinking up really well, to be fair for you
- 34:16lot, and particularly in kind of transition, you're moving it
- 34:19really quickly, which I assume must come come back to Carrick
- 34:23working with those boys, you know, having played in the
- 34:25middle of the park himself. But but yeah, that was that was
- 34:29good. Hatto.
- 34:30Last couple of weeks, Hatto has been really good for us as well.
- 34:34He's because when he first came, I think he really struggled to
- 34:37sort of get to grips with the physicality of it maybe.
- 34:39But you know, he seems to have come to his own a bit.
- 34:42He he's pretty good and and he's he's running forward with the
- 34:46ball, dribbling. He's got, he looks like he's got
- 34:47pretty good feet. So yeah, he was another one.
- 34:50No, it was I was. I was pretty impressed with.
- 34:53Nice you having that Chaz Chelsea boss in the midfield.
- 34:57Not really I. Thought like.
- 35:02I think, I think we kind of obviously our game plan.
- 35:07I don't think we're ever going to go there and expect to
- 35:09dominate possession and have more of the ball than you, but I
- 35:12think we were more effective with the ball when we had to be
- 35:17quickly. Nothing at the first half, no, I
- 35:18don't think he dominated, but I think we got to grips him a bit
- 35:21more. I think Tommy got more
- 35:22confidence in the ball and Bruno kind of obviously off the back
- 35:25of the assist, I think got his confidence back into himself and
- 35:29started spraying the balls around.
- 35:31And I think the second-half he had a few chances, but I know
- 35:35it's like 21 shots, but there's only like 3 on Tigers.
- 35:39Yeah, very few on. Target, I think, yeah, I think
- 35:43so. I think we're limiting you to
- 35:45mainly shots from distance. So I think that's probably
- 35:48because of the good work from kind of Cass and then Kobe to do
- 35:52that. But in terms of like possession
- 35:54and definitely first half, yeah, I think I thought I've never,
- 35:58I've not watched a huge amount of Chelsea, but I actually was
- 36:03pretty impressive. Enzo, I think he actually is a
- 36:05really good player. So I can pretty do pretty well
- 36:09in Madrid. And I'm with you.
- 36:16I'm Rihanna de laugh as well. Like, obviously he turned us
- 36:18down. And so you're always having a
- 36:20little look at him. And I thought he put himself
- 36:22about when he was a bit of a nuisance.
- 36:23I thought he played really well. I'm gonna ask you both a
- 36:25question. Obviously Chelsea fan, United
- 36:28fan, you can choose now to have the Lap or Cesco Henry.
- 36:33Who you having? Oh.
- 36:36That's a toughie. Probably neither of them to be
- 36:39honest, no. I didn't expect that.
- 36:42I think, I think, well, I think our problem at the moment is
- 36:47that, you know, I think in a few years time the lap will be, the
- 36:50lap will be good. But we we bought him sort of way
- 36:53too early and you can't expect him to be, you know, leading the
- 36:56charge to try and win Premier League or anything like that.
- 36:58So from what I've seen as Cesco, I haven't been like, I know you
- 37:01boys love him to bits, but I haven't been like massively
- 37:06impressed with him. But I think he's probably a bit
- 37:08more, he's probably a bit more composed on the ball.
- 37:11He's probably got a little bit more finesse to his game than
- 37:13like Dilap at the moment. He's still pretty raw.
- 37:15So probably Cesco all. Right, all right, just silly
- 37:19question. So his question, yeah, obviously
- 37:25I do like I do like the lap. I actually thought he was he was
- 37:28good. I think probably obviously I
- 37:30know he's injured for a lot of the start of the season.
- 37:32So I reckon, you know, you just started playing fairly recently,
- 37:37at least consistently. So you think maybe yeah, you'd
- 37:40get more match out messing and start getting some some some
- 37:44more goals. But yeah, he's like older
- 37:45players was really good. But yeah, I think Cesco.
- 37:48But yesterday he still he was quite quiet again.
- 37:52We didn't have a huge amount of the ball, but I think some of
- 37:56the runs he makes I was making yesterday, like in some of the
- 38:00chances didn't get quite converted.
- 38:01I'm always like watching him. I think he's always making those
- 38:03right runs and like some of the counter attacks, he's absolutely
- 38:05rapid. He just doesn't always get.
- 38:07He didn't get the ball enough in my opinion.
- 38:09Bit like we were last year for Hoyland, but we just upgraded
- 38:13the person we don't pass to very.
- 38:17Fair and Chad, before we get into man of the match, any other
- 38:19place and out to you. Obviously I haven't, I thought
- 38:25discuss the pressure. The pressure is pressure he was
- 38:28under to basically be like the only center back in a big game,
- 38:33which meant a lot. And obviously Chelsea away to
- 38:35hard, hard game no matter what the situation.
- 38:38And I thought obviously he had that kind of early foul that
- 38:44wasn't a foul, but he just got stuck in.
- 38:48He was physical, like aggressive, like just did some
- 38:53impressive slide tackles, which were a bit scary at some points.
- 38:56But I just thought he was really good like winning Jules.
- 39:01I actually think like he looked better than like him and Yoru at
- 39:06the moment. Like his attributes are suited
- 39:09better currently for what you need at that age, I guess, if
- 39:12that makes sense. I think you're probably be the
- 39:14better center back long term, but Aiden's more there kind of
- 39:19more physical already and it's always really impressed with
- 39:21him. I think Maserati did a decent
- 39:24job next to him as well. He kind of had a what he got his
- 39:27pocket picked by Enzo at once, but I thought he did a good job
- 39:33with him basically next to him. Like considering you've got a 19
- 39:37year old center back and Maserati's a right back, I
- 39:40thought they those two did really well in that.
- 39:44And then stand out, obviously not my match, but I thought Kobe
- 39:48was, especially second-half, I thought he was doing more of
- 39:50what we want. Like he showed him, showed how
- 39:53much we missed him versus Leeds. And because he just kind of kept
- 39:56things ticking over, kept possession.
- 39:59And then he's so kind of press resistant.
- 40:01He just kind of eases a bit of pressure off sometimes and just
- 40:04with a little turn or drop the shoulder.
- 40:06And he did that a few times. And at the end of the first
- 40:09half, he there's a couple of passage of play where it was we
- 40:11use more hose higher at the pitch and.
- 40:14He wasn't down to him that the kind of the attack grow down.
- 40:16He was making good passes and it kind of just when when arrived,
- 40:21like I was really impressed with with Kobe as well.
- 40:25I agree with most of them. I'll also give a little shout
- 40:27out to Dallow. I think I mentioned obviously
- 40:29the job he did on yeah and kind of job.
- 40:31I thought, you know, we're a bit hit and miss with him at me
- 40:34sometimes and says our performs, but I thought he had a good one
- 40:36yesterday. But all right, can a Chelsea fan
- 40:40and to Man United fans agree on one of the match?
- 40:43Henry Man of the Match. Not in the match.
- 40:51Why do you think? Why do you think?
- 40:55Yeah, I mean, given that you guys got the win, it's probably
- 40:58got to be Fernandez, innit? Which one?
- 41:02Bruno. I'm just checking.
- 41:04I'm just don't. Make me say it.
- 41:07I'm just checking any complaints.
- 41:11Not like he just keeps doing it over and over again.
- 41:14And yes, they obviously got the assist, but it was more about
- 41:17like he was just everywhere. Like defensive work was great.
- 41:20His passing energy kept trying things.
- 41:24Good link at play. I think he just, he just keeps
- 41:26delivering. He's just kind of in a groove
- 41:27now, right? Like an assist is expected and
- 41:31his overall game, I didn't think anyone was great from Alva
- 41:34Switzer in the first half, but he really stepped up in our
- 41:38second-half and he's. Almost playing with a real
- 41:43arrogant style if you know, he's almost like you're kind of not
- 41:49going to compare the two, but like you sort of Zidane's or
- 41:52whatever, you know, just when you get the foot on the ball and
- 41:54it's just and they just look like they're just ahead of one
- 41:57step ahead of everyone else. You know, just kind of in that
- 41:59in that flow state. That's what it feels like at the
- 42:01moment. Yeah, she also find compares
- 42:04Bruno Fernandez to Zinedine Zidane.
- 42:06You know, superb, superb. No, I yeah, I thought Kobe
- 42:12really loved his performance yesterday.
- 42:15Heaven think he's super raw, but loved.
- 42:17You know, he's not 19. The stuff I was doing at 19,
- 42:20there's no one near that. But yeah, just Bruno.
- 42:25We just honestly tell me, take it for granted.
- 42:27We said it before, broken record.
- 42:30Everyone talks about your morning.
- 42:31Just stop focusing on that moan as much as he wants, like
- 42:34because this man is oh, my God, to have him.
- 42:38He's unbelievable. And like you said, Henry, to be
- 42:41fair, like he is playing with that at the minute, but I think
- 42:43he just, I'm just, yeah, I'm just going to influence games
- 42:46every week. And yeah, I can't, I can't say
- 42:49any more about him, to be honest.
- 42:52Yeah, I think the moaning thing is obviously it's different when
- 42:55you're winning it basically. And you guys have turned the
- 42:57corner now it seems. And you know, and so and he's
- 43:00just dragging everyone along with him.
- 43:01And yeah, so I certainly think that that definitely helps
- 43:05because again, I was quite critical of him before when he
- 43:08was, you know, because it did feel like he was sort of moaning
- 43:10at people. But I guess when you when you
- 43:12are sort of that good or, you know, that you're that good, you
- 43:16you expect those same standards from everyone else around you,
- 43:18you know, and when people aren't doing that, it's, it's probably
- 43:21going to be pretty frustrating. So yeah.
- 43:25All right, Bruno Fernandez unanimous.
- 43:27I like it. I like it.
- 43:28But anyway, let's give you a little second just to reflect on
- 43:31Chelsea, where you're at, what you're thinking going forward
- 43:34do. You think you get Champions
- 43:37League Europe, European football?
- 43:42Well, we're falling behind now and we've got Brighton on
- 43:45Tuesday, I think it is, which won't be an easy game.
- 43:48I know that they had a bit of A to do with Spurs, didn't they?
- 43:50But yeah, it's top five in it. They get it this year.
- 43:57Yeah, it. Could even be top six if if
- 44:01Villa win the Europa League and finish the top five then I think
- 44:07it goes to the 6th as well. So you are.
- 44:12Yeah. They think literally it's Fulham
- 44:16of three points behind in 12th, which is this how congested that
- 44:19spot is. And yeah, you've got superior
- 44:21goal difference. But honestly with some of that,
- 44:25some of them teams as well, like Brentford are winning,
- 44:27Bournemouth are winning. Like you say, bright and a
- 44:29tricky it's it looks mad. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
- 44:34And you know, form wise, we're, you know, we're, we're in a bad,
- 44:38a bad rut now as well. You know, that's four home games
- 44:41lost on the bounce without scoring, you know, So yeah, it
- 44:44doesn't look good. So, yeah, I mean, based on form,
- 44:48I think we might struggle, but yeah.
- 44:50And it might and it might be a case of hoping that Villa when
- 44:53you're open, then we can qualify that way.
- 44:55But yeah, it doesn't, doesn't look good.
- 44:58And particularly with all the off field stuff and everything
- 44:59as well, it's yeah, it's it's pretty dire our and
- 45:03unfortunately, but yeah, I imagine they're going to be
- 45:06quite some big changes over the summer, but we'll see.
- 45:09I. Think so, Yeah.
- 45:11There's no chance, Brent. Brent's no chance.
- 45:13Brent's staying. He's gone, surely?
- 45:15Yeah, he's he's got to be Yeah. And but I mean, because there is
- 45:19now at that point where it's like, we'll do you suck him
- 45:21before the end of the season and try and get a bit of a bounce to
- 45:23try and yeah, come his league spot.
- 45:25But you know, they're, they're going to make themselves look
- 45:28for really bloody stupid if they do that.
- 45:30Happen. He's there man, right?
- 45:31Team as your manager and all that sort of stuff so.
- 45:34Yeah, yeah. It's a mess.
- 45:37Palmer's quotes are interesting. Obviously he's not the most
- 45:39articulate fellow in the world, but you were kind of saying he's
- 45:41committed and he really believes in the club and the direction
- 45:44and obviously his future. But then he kind of dropped at
- 45:47the end to say but if we don't get the Champions League, things
- 45:50can change and just left that. So it's.
- 45:53I still. Want.
- 45:57To be fair, I could see him at you guys.
- 45:59Normal fucker, you know, that he would sort of fit in a bit like
- 46:03one matter did. And obviously he came from
- 46:04Chelsea as well, you know, that similar sort of style and a
- 46:07player as well that just kind of glides around.
- 46:10I mean, obviously I hope he doesn't.
- 46:11I want him to stay. I want him to stay for us.
- 46:13But yeah, recently and he's another one that's been in and
- 46:17out and injury and stuff, but recently I have felt like
- 46:19sometimes he's gone a bit, he's gone missing a little bit in
- 46:22games. And I felt like he was a bit
- 46:23like that yesterday. Seemed to start quite brightly.
- 46:25And I think that's why we stopped.
- 46:27We started well in the game, but then, yeah, and it sort of went
- 46:30missing and didn't really impact the game too much after that.
- 46:32So yeah, if he's committed then and he's going to give it 100%
- 46:36then yeah, great. But if he's halfway out the door
- 46:39and floating with man, you know it then.
- 46:42See you later mate. Mate, the man is the man is so
- 46:45northern. It just doesn't suit him being
- 46:47down there. It's like I don't know what it
- 46:51is, you know, like when foreigners kind of need to kind
- 46:53of go and get some sun because then Ronaldo doing like his
- 46:55sunbeds and stuff like that. Palmer needs some kind of
- 46:58equivalent in the North. I don't know what it is.
- 46:59I don't know what that would be, but you just need it needs a bit
- 47:02of time there to be fair, so. I don't know what's.
- 47:05Going to happen with him, but yeah, if you actually get
- 47:07dragged into that pack down to 12, it could be interesting
- 47:11because you've got so many players on silly wages and stuff
- 47:14as well. So it'll be a be interesting to
- 47:16see. But let's give you a break.
- 47:17Let's not talk about the game anymore.
- 47:19Let's get into some some other games across the game week.
- 47:22So we're recording this actually just after a big one.
- 47:25I hate to say it, but it is a big one.
- 47:27City V Arsenal, City win 21, Cherokee Highland and their
- 47:32consolation from habits in the end.
- 47:34What do you think boys? Henry is winning the league now.
- 47:38City, I think and hope and and no, no neutral fan wants Arsenal
- 47:44to win it, let's be honest. So.
- 47:47So yeah, no, I think again, a lot of it's to do with momentum
- 47:50and that they're sort of peaking at the right time.
- 47:52They've really kind of stepped it up, got some form back,
- 47:54haven't they in recent times. So whereas Arsenal since
- 47:57Christmas, they've kind of got into their shell a bit and it
- 47:59feels like they've there's an anxiety there and it's sort of
- 48:04seeping through the team and they've.
- 48:05Yeah, just even today it felt like they, it felt like they
- 48:08were quite happy to sit back and sort of take a draw.
- 48:12You know, when it went one, one it was, they weren't pressing
- 48:15for the second. It was like, well, we're all
- 48:16right with the draw, so let's just do that.
- 48:19And then obviously when City got the, when City got the second,
- 48:21it was like, we're going to have to do something now.
- 48:24And that was the only really time, a real time that they sort
- 48:26of showed any impetus really. So, yeah, weird, weird 1.
- 48:31And that's a big loss psychologically, I think, for
- 48:33Arsenal as well. You don't.
- 48:35You just reminded me of as well, Henry talking about this.
- 48:37Obviously you're going to be biased towards wanting him to to
- 48:39win it. But Henry let me into a little
- 48:41secret chest, which you're not going to like.
- 48:43Who's your who's your other team?
- 48:45You told me about Once Upon a time in a pub.
- 48:48I'm calling it out. I'm calling it out.
- 48:49I'm calling it out. It's not my other team, but I if
- 48:54I was going to support a team up in the up in the Northwest, it's
- 48:58going to be blue, I'm afraid, mate.
- 48:59So. Yes.
- 49:03Everton, Everton. I can't believe.
- 49:13Like. I can't believe Arsenal didn't
- 49:17win because I said to set a fire in the training ground.
- 49:20So I'm just I'm just shocked like how how they not not be
- 49:25City at City's place when they had a fire in the training
- 49:28ground. Like absolute madness.
- 49:31I bought it was a shoe in. All that practice with pens as
- 49:35well, you know, it just hasn't paid off on this occasion, but
- 49:38who would have thought it? It's going to harm them.
- 49:41Isn't it really bad with Charles here?
- 49:43You still think that's not going to limp over the line, but you
- 49:46still think that after today. I don't.
- 49:48I still think there's a twist there somewhere, like I'm not
- 49:51sure City or win every game. But I don't know, like I was
- 49:55thinking I thought maybe I still might nick a draw and then there
- 49:59was limp over the line. But now I'm like, oh, I don't
- 50:02know, maybe see, so I'm just going to you're going to run
- 50:05away with it. Like kind of enjoying the the
- 50:10complete bottle from Arsenal. It's pretty, pretty funny.
- 50:16So yeah, I think even if they do win it now, say actually do
- 50:22some. I managed to kind of get over
- 50:24the line. Like I wonder how the fans will
- 50:26be now. It was obviously they were like
- 50:28the best team ever like 3 months ago and like getting with the
- 50:31quadruple and they've lost like four in a row, whatever is now.
- 50:35So I know he's I wonder how the fans will be.
- 50:38They still be obnoxious as we expected them to be.
- 50:41Or not. No doubt, no doubt they will and
- 50:46I've been saying it for a while, but I still just thinks that
- 50:48you're going to do it. And I don't honestly think
- 50:50Arsenal just let him too close. Then they've just been beaten by
- 50:53say, you know, they've got the tails up massively.
- 50:55Like you say, anything can happen in the remaining
- 50:57fixtures, but I just think it's it's over.
- 51:01I can't even see Arsenal winning all of their games, you know,
- 51:04remaining. So I take no pleasure in it and
- 51:06I've taken no pleasure in it since I said this City, you're
- 51:08going to win it. But the perfect scenario,
- 51:11Arsenal. But I'll let we get to chat
- 51:12about loads on the pods. City win it and then it's very
- 51:15stripped anyway. So that's what we want, don't we
- 51:16just Yeah. Exactly.
- 51:19Real. I will keep watching that one
- 51:22and keep enjoying that one as long as Arsenal keep bottling it
- 51:25and city of crooks. But let's talk about some some
- 51:28other fixtures. I'm going to mention this one
- 51:30because Henry, you were there. Leeds three.
- 51:31Wolves nil. I was yeah, yeah, good, well,
- 51:35good first half from Leeds as well.
- 51:37They look, they look really quite bright.
- 51:39First half, yeah, went in two nil up and then second-half, it
- 51:45was a pretty dire game, yeah, pretty attritional.
- 51:50But yeah, Wolves as well. Wolves were really bad even even
- 51:55their own fans at one point started singing we're going
- 51:58down. So they've obviously accepted
- 52:02their fate and yeah, that they were really sloppy at times,
- 52:06Wolves, to be honest. So yeah, feel for their fans a
- 52:09little bit really. But but yeah, Lee's, Lee's
- 52:12looking pretty bright, which it's not good.
- 52:15The head of the old FA Cup clash for Chelsea, but particularly
- 52:19when they've already taken 4 points offers this season as
- 52:22well in the league. So, but yeah, they play some,
- 52:27played some pretty good stuff first half Leeds did.
- 52:29You worried about that semi? Knox not not worried, but well,
- 52:35I'm worried generally because, yeah, as I said it, we just
- 52:37can't score goals at the moment. But so that's always going to be
- 52:41a worry. But I mean, from the game
- 52:43against you boys, I do. There's some positives to take
- 52:46away. And I do think we were quite
- 52:48bright and, you know, on the front foot and we did create
- 52:51chances. Yeah.
- 52:53We just need just got to finish up, just got to finish up.
- 52:56Exactly an hour. The prawn sandwiches.
- 52:58At least you're in the apostates, right?
- 53:00I was yeah, corporate managed to bag a corporate a corporate
- 53:03ticket. Yeah, was in the box, but it was
- 53:05like in the stand. But yeah, that's a nice and I
- 53:09felt feed beforehand. Yeah, few few Guinness as well.
- 53:12So yeah, happy days. Enjoyed it.
- 53:14Very nice, very nice. Let's have another laugh.
- 53:17Spares so I didn't see this one but I'll get any updates and I
- 53:20started obviously that they were they were two one off and
- 53:23apparently some quite wild celebrations as you can imagine
- 53:26and then brightened with a pretty much last minute
- 53:29equalizer that is absolutely killer as president just but.
- 53:32They were doing wild, wild celebrations, but it was like
- 53:36the 78th minute. So like, maybe obviously it's
- 53:39it's a bigger release to to go to one up, but like you haven't
- 53:43scored the 95th minute winner. You scored it like this away.
- 53:48Everyone's a 78 minutes. And that sounds a bit like
- 53:49that's a bit risky. Like they're still like 12
- 53:53minutes left and Brighton were playing all right.
- 53:55So yeah, a bit of a eager celebration.
- 53:59And then obviously when Brighton did equalize, they they were
- 54:03obviously gutted like tears and all sorts.
- 54:06He like, well, don't celebrate like you've won the game when
- 54:10there's still like 10 minutes left.
- 54:11Like, celebrate that one, you win 21.
- 54:15And like, it's almost like I drained some energy from them as
- 54:17well. And then, yeah, for Brian to get
- 54:20the draw. It's funny as hell.
- 54:26Are Arsenal and Spurs Spursy? Is this collectively they've got
- 54:31similar traits and they just a different end of the table?
- 54:34Must be a North London thing. Maybe.
- 54:38Oh yeah, that's mad. And he's looking really bad for
- 54:40spares now when you look at the table, you know, obviously
- 54:43Forest got that win. They're away now, 4 points clear
- 54:46up West Ham, West Ham one point above spares.
- 54:49So they. Play tomorrow's game in hand.
- 54:52Yeah, exactly. So it's between West Ham and
- 54:54Spares now, but it's looking at Bleak and the number one.
- 54:58We've called for a little while but I just can't see.
- 55:00I think they're going down. I really think they're.
- 55:02Going yeah, so. Another fix lower fix.
- 55:05Let's touch on just because I want to ask a question.
- 55:06Newcastle losing at home to the bomb that's obviously been
- 55:09Alabama brand decent farm and Ariel is in demand.
- 55:12But Jack. And that's goodbye, Eddie Howe.
- 55:15I think he's going this way before.
- 55:20I think he moans a lot about the money, right?
- 55:22I mean about not being able to spend the money because they've
- 55:24got unlimited amounts of money, but they still spent a lot of
- 55:27money in the summer. They just spent it badly.
- 55:30And now what? They're 14th in the table.
- 55:34So I think he'll I think he'll go.
- 55:38I imagine their owners will be quite ruthless.
- 55:40He's done well because I think, I don't think they ever wanted
- 55:43him as the long term manager, but he just kept doing too well,
- 55:46like Champions League qualifications, things like
- 55:48that. And now he's got this kind of
- 55:52big slump. I think he'll go.
- 55:53And who do I think he'll go there?
- 55:55I probably would have said to Zerby before he's going to
- 55:56Spurs, but it's not that. But you know, you could see that
- 56:01be Glasner or somewhere outgoing Areola maybe.
- 56:06They're still steps up for both. You guys will step up for both
- 56:10of those, those managers. So maybe 1?
- 56:14Henry. Yeah, I think it's a weird one
- 56:17with with them because the, and I think some, because I agree
- 56:22with Charles that they've clearly bought badly the
- 56:25business that they've done in the last window or the last
- 56:28summer window was what letting ESAT go was obviously massive.
- 56:32And yeah, and the players that they've brought in haven't,
- 56:36haven't really, you know, hit their straps.
- 56:39But I guess some of that, I guess from house position, I
- 56:43don't know how Newcastle is run, but it's whether that's whether
- 56:47that's like a sporting director type decision and or whether it
- 56:49was Eddie Howe. If that's Eddie Howe, then yeah,
- 56:52I think that could be a nail in the coffin that, you know, those
- 56:54sorts of decisions. But yeah, they're a weird ones,
- 56:59Newcastle, because it's kind of like they don't, they don't
- 57:02really speak openly about their kind of ambitions as such.
- 57:06And they were quite happy we won a trophy last year and that
- 57:08seemed to sort of be enough quite like being in the
- 57:11Champions League. But, and so I don't know, it's a
- 57:15it's a strange one. I think I think they should
- 57:18stick with Eddie Howe. I think he's a good manager.
- 57:20But also I think that they are, it could be a really interesting
- 57:24summer for them and their fans as well, because I think there's
- 57:26going to be a few people sniffing around some of their
- 57:28main players. And so you could actually see
- 57:30them fall away really, if they lost Bruno, Good Marias, for
- 57:33example, if they lost Denali. And you know, based on their
- 57:36recent transfers, I'm not sure how they, I'm not sure how
- 57:39they'd fare after that. David Brent out, Eddie Howe in.
- 57:45Oh, David Brent out anybody else in?
- 57:50Yeah, no, he yeah, I don't know. I don't know whether Howe would
- 57:55be right either. I feel like, and this is what I
- 57:58was saying before we brought Rosini in, is that because we've
- 58:02got such a young dressing room, we needed, we needed an
- 58:04experienced manager, somebody that can talk from experience
- 58:07about big games and how to manage big games and and so on.
- 58:11And, you know, so when we just Chuck with senior in there, it's
- 58:14like it felt like almost blind. You didn't blind in a way.
- 58:16So it was kind of yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't mind him,
- 58:21but you know, I won't get excited about him coming in
- 58:23either. Probably, but definitely a
- 58:26manager roundabout coming up, isn't he?
- 58:28In the summer there's lots of changes, but this is the fellow
- 58:31Reds podcast, so let's end with a bit of United news as well.
- 58:34Under 18, she has win the FA Cup new semi final, JJ Gabriel, the
- 58:39Max Diamond times 10 with a great finish.
- 58:41Yeah. And then?
- 58:43Yeah, yeah. Naughty that.
- 58:46I mean, he did miss a few chances for the game as well,
- 58:49but that composure in the last minute just to kind of take.
- 58:51An 18, nineteenth minute, whatever it was.
- 58:54Yeah, yeah. Class Lovely, lovely.
- 58:56What results? 1550 in the final, yeah.
- 59:00I might have to go to that I think.
- 59:02Is it? Where is it?
- 59:03Is it old? Trafford, I don't know where it
- 59:06is actually might be good to good to support the boys.
- 59:10But yeah, and nice to see some some players there.
- 59:13Henry of you, have you caught the JJ Gabriel hype yet?
- 59:16Because it's coming. Not haven't it, to be fair,
- 59:19Obie, though I've heard, I've heard the thing about Obie.
- 59:22JJ Gabriel is like 15 and he's just scored.
- 59:28It was like his 20. He's either his 23rd or 29th
- 59:31goal in the under eighteens this season.
- 59:33He's a top roster in the whole league and he's like 3 years
- 59:35younger than everyone. Wow, yeah, he's ridiculous.
- 59:38You got, you got Rooney. 'S kid in the in the Academy
- 59:42there as well, haven't you? Yeah, yeah, he's 16, same team.
- 59:47Yeah, same team. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 59:49But he got injured. He's out first of the season.
- 59:52Because he's been, I think he's been ripping it up as well.
- 59:54And he had to be fair. So yeah.
- 59:56Yeah, we've got a good little you sell coming through actually
- 59:59just. Great, Yeah, great seeing a
- 1:00:02great win for the for the under 18.
- 1:00:04So that's what we get the job done against City in the final.
- 1:00:07But yeah, let's leave it there. Sorry Henry about massive win
- 1:00:11for United. Really, really happy that not
- 1:00:14the greatest game, but really important just to kind of extend
- 1:00:18that gap to that important 5th place.
- 1:00:20But we'll say great to have you on.
- 1:00:23Thanks for joining us as well. Have you found it?
- 1:00:25No, thanks. Tents.
- 1:00:26Yeah, No, I appreciate it. It's been great.
- 1:00:27Yeah. Really enjoyed it.
- 1:00:28So yeah, next time, next time we got fixed.
- 1:00:30You're coming up. You've been Nod.
- 1:00:32Our official Chelsea correspondent.
- 1:00:33Have we been nice enough? Brilliant.
- 1:00:40Brilliant. Well, yeah.
- 1:00:41And thanks, as always for watching and listening,
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