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SIXTY IS NOT THE NEW FIFTY: REAL TALK ON AGING · Uncluttered and Unfiltered: The Podcast For Women Over 50

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Welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast urging
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you to let it go and don't look back, with nationally acclaimed
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professional organizer Christine Stone and self-proclaimed Hot
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Damn Mess radio and TV personality Eden Kendall.
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Welcome everyone to Uncluttered and Unfiltered with a podcast
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for women over 50. And as the little man
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introducing us said, Christine is a professional organizer.
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I am just kind of a hot damn mess.
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And you know what? I'm getting less messy as the
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days go on and I as I am Christine adjacent.
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But the part of the matter, the reason I bring that up is you
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may have found us and thought every episode is about
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organization or getting your life uncluttered.
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And it's not the case if we were just a couple of women that
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happened to be over 50. We are very, very different from
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each other. And Christine does share
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regularly organizational tips. And if that's what you came here
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seeking don't deserve us entirely when I tell you that
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that's not this episode. Just go back through our
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library. You'll find dozens and dozens of
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episodes that will get you on the right path.
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And we have one coming up soon and we have one coming soon.
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But that's a little bit about us.
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If you're just finding us welcome.
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We love that you're here. We are launching into a back to
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school time and we know that for the most part, a lot of you guys
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are either no longer putting your kiddos through like middle
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school, elementary, high school. Maybe you've got some away in
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college, maybe you do have someone leaving the nest.
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But a good lot of you are already empty nesters.
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And so I think this is really relatable, Christine, what you
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just experienced at Target. Oh, I experience it every year
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at Target. Every year I have such a little
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sadness when I see him putting out all the school supplies.
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I text my kids pictures and say I wish I could pack lunches
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again and buy backpacks and pencil bags and stuff to
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decorate your locker. I just was so into that.
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I loved back to school and I I just every year no matter how
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old I get, I just say gosh. Cuz I think when you're in that
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phase, you're always like, get in the cart, get, you know,
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you're always like in target, rushing around.
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Yeah, it's stressful. It's like, hurry up.
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No, we're leaving. I'm hungry.
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You know what I mean? So when you're alone in there
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and you see it, you're like, God, I should have taken a
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breath. I should have just let them get
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the pencil box they want, you know what I mean?
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Well, but there was always something so random on that list
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that was difficult to find too. They wanted folders with two
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pockets, but no, no little thing for the fasteners.
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It was just always so stinking specific.
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I always loved when you would get that one teacher that was
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just like, I don't know, get any spiral notebook.
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But sometimes they wanted to have multiple subjects in it.
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Sometimes they didn't want, you know, And then there was the
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composition books. And, you know, it was just, oh.
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Gosh, the composition books. Do you ever use a composition
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book? No, and I don't even know do
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they even have them anymore. I mean I see them with that
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scribble scrabbly look on the. Front.
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That's true. I, you know, I just remember the
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first time that my kids started school and I saw all the things
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with the wipes and the, and the paper towels and the, this and
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the, that. And you know, when early days,
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when it's, it's expensive and you feel for all of the teachers
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that are buying all of these things for themselves.
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So if you're a teacher, we appreciate you.
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If you. And and that is going through
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school supply season right now. Enjoy every minute.
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As stressful as you think it is, there will be a day where you
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will miss it or there will be a day where you're actually
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spending money on textbooks. And then you'll see what
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expensive really is. So there's there's a lot of fun
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ahead of you. Exactly.
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And you know. What's funny?
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Yeah. And I don't feel that way when
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you see the college stuff, you know what I mean?
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I, I really, I for me it's the younger, like the lower school,
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the middle school, you know, high when you're doing stuff
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like that. I the, the college, I just think
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I cried through the whole thing because I didn't even.
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I don't know. I think it's different college
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versus when your kids are younger.
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It definitely is. I have a friend right now who is
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getting ready to send her twins off.
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She's an empty minister and she's doing twins, getting twins
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sent off. And you know, it's hard enough
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with when they go one at a time, but when they leave in pairs
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like Noah's Ark, you. Know that'd be really, really
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hard. I know that'd be tough.
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Yeah, another, another thing and we want our main thing we want
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to talk about here is something that you and I have bandied back
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and forth with forever now. And it's the difference in our
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ages, which is only a couple of years, but you have been
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insistent that it is a big, huge difference.
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So we're going to get to that. But one other little thing I
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wanted to bring up about getting older.
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And I also wanted to use this as an opportunity to mention my
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friend Rita, who passed away this week, who was a big
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listener of our podcast. Even though she was in her late
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70s and turned this year, she always asked me about it.
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She wanted me to send her the links because she certainly
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wasn't going to try to figure out how to listen without the
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links. She especially loved whenever
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there would be a video on YouTube that she could actually
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like, watch. It was all about seeing faces.
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But here's what was so I mean, I'm not trying to take away from
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how incredibly sad it was. It was very sudden illness that
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came on. And she has a lovely family that
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is grieving just like all of her friends are.
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But isn't it such an an unusual thing to now be able to say,
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like my friend, Usually if I know somebody in their 80s, it's
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my mom's friend or my aunt or my grandmother.
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This is literally someone I consider a a friend, you know?
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And that's what's so strange that we're getting into this age
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where these are people that are in our social circles.
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It's not even, you know, an older relative.
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It's someone you just consider a friend.
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Yeah, that's strange. It's strange.
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And you hear so many people even younger than yourself when you
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when someone who's in their early 50s or late 40s and they
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pay and you're like, Oh my God. I mean, it's, I just think at
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this stage of life right now, it's either your parents or if
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your friends or your friend's parents, it's always somebody
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now who, you know, you hear had had cancer or a heart attack or,
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you know, just, it's just terrible, terrible and.
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It's awful, but it but it used to be not so long ago where and
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and this also my neighbor across the street.
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She also is, I want to think late 80s, late 70s, early 80s
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she passed away suddenly. We weren't close, but I you just
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start, it's just strange when it's not half a generation.
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Well, it is, but I mean just it's not separated by
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relationships of generations. You know, it's not, you know,
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your old, your old teacher or somebody that just immediately
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categorized as in a different plane of their life, not someone
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you see at the gym regularly, which is what what it is with
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Rita so. Or when you or when someone
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passes away and they post it on social media, like someone you
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knew, say in high school, you're like, you see the picture and
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you're like, how could that person be that old?
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Because in my mind, they'll always be what I remember them
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as, you know what I mean? So I'll be like, that's
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impossible. I'm too young to have a friend
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that is that old. You know in your mind you forget
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how old you are and that 60. 3 has that memorial page
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everywhere. It's like a group and we've
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talked about that before and that's just bonkers because for
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years it was just like the very random either freak accident or.
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You know. Dancer.
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And now it's just like they don't even say the 'cause it's
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just like so and so past and it's just.
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There's, I just think especially when they say like 73, I'll be
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like, wait a minute, I'm 60, going to be 63.
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That's 10 years. That's not that.
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That's not that far away. Yeah.
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I so you know what I mean? Yes.
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Agreed. So like.
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Whoa. But any, any how the kind of
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does bring us to our topic today, which is the age
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difference is from when you're 50 to 55, when you're 50 to 59,
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when you're 59 to 63, when you're you know those little
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gaps and just how much they matter or don't matter depending
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on who you are, but you have. Been taken from the.
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Beginning that it matters. It it matters only because if
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you ladies out there are in your early 50s, middle 50s and you
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think you're old. Let me.
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Say right now you're young. Enjoy it.
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You're, you feel good still, you look good still, you have energy
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still. I mean, I could go on and on and
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on. And you don't appreciate it when
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you're at that age. Like when I was 50, I had a big,
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you know, you want to have a big party.
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I had a big 50th birthday party. You don't do that for, I mean,
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you do for other big milestones, but it's something to celebrate.
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You're excited still when you start creeping up 555859 and
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then bam, you're in your 60s. It takes longer to recover from
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things, so if you injure yourself, it's not like you just
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bounce back. It takes more time.
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You notice every flaw about you because it's staring you so much
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more in the face than it did when you were 50 years old or
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55. I just feel emotionally and
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physically there is such a big difference and I don't think
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people talk about it enough because if they did, women in
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their 50s would think they were or the cats meow.
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I mean they would be like the. Cats meow.
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Nice. Yes, nice.
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I'm throwing. That old school saying you're.
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Just gonna do it. You're just gonna put that there
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Exactly. I, I have to say, just I last
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year, you remember I went to Sydney, Australia and I ran the
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Sydney marathon. Big yes, I fell, remember, I
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fell for. I'm holding them up to the
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camera right now. I have not recovered.
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That was September. They're still always red and
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bruised, always a little bit painful.
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I'm I take my glucosamine, I rub arnica on them every day.
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They're just not getting any better.
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And my doctor was not surprised to hear that because he's like
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elbows. Now that we're we're talking
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skin, OK, elbow skin, knee, skin, arm, the skin on your
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arms, like the sun damage starts showing more the wrinkles on
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your neck. And some people aren't bothered
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by it. And I say, God love you.
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I am so impressed with that. But if it does bother you, it
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starts to really bother you. Where you.
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Know what I mean when I was 50 years old or 52 I never ever saw
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or noticed some of the things that I have going on now they
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were probably there but now they're really there so I just I
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mean when you'll say to me something when you were 58 or 59
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now I'd be like just wait wait till you're 62 the.
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Person that invents something for your neck short of surgery
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or that tape, the person that has something for real, like
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they say we're going to put this cream or these needles or
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whatever, and it really works. I mean like really works on your
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neck. They're going to be the richest,
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most successful inventor, entrepreneur out there because
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there are all these little things that kind of make a
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difference, they say. Or when they say, oh, it will
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slow down the aging process. Well, how do I really know that?
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You'll never really know if it did.
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But you know, short of that, like tape.
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And I honestly think that it did hit hard, like towards the end
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of my 50s, Like I'm 59 now. So I can say that, but how I
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also think that because I'm not giving up the ghost on my face,
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I'm still doing some Botox here and there.
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It makes a really big difference.
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The neck to the face is like oh, see for.
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Me the hands the hands the. Hands for sure the.
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Hands and the knees, the knees and the hands.
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I will say that till I just it drives me crazy because no
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matter what you do everywhere else, you still have the hands
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and the knees. Those are two things that.
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Dolly Parton still wears. That's why she wears her gloves.
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Well, exactly. I mean, you know, I mean they.
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Need they need man hands anyway, so I'm kind of I have.
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Vain man hands too. So, I mean, you know, I at some
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point though, in your 60s, you start to say, oh, well, I mean,
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either you don't have the energy to care anymore or you're like
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saying to yourself, this could be a long hard road or it could
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be an easier Rd. Which one do you want to go on?
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And you can laugh your way down that road and.
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That's the way. That's what you choose.
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OK. So a couple of weeks ago we
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didn't have an episode so I went in and to our ladies only page
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on Facebook, which we have one. If you did not know this
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already, you go to uncluttered and unfiltered ladies only and
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we have to let you in. And I said we're sorry we don't
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have a new episode to share that today.
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But I did find this article and wondered what you would do as a
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woman over 50. Now, the article was designed to
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be for women over 30, but it says older women over 30.
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Older women are revealing the things they stopped pretending
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to enjoy. So the question was, as a woman
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over 50, what's something you have stopped pretending to
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enjoy? And Kate said, feeling like I
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have to have freshly washed, perfectly styled hair on a
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regular basis. I would feel that way too if I
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wasn't on TV. Christine, that is her thing,
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her hair. So you're going?
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Yeah. That's not one of my things, but
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I would, you know what? I would be honestly so happy if
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that wasn't something that I had to deal with everyday.
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But you. Are social media presence for
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those who don't know, neatly designed is Christine's business
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and she has a thriving organizer TikTok and Instagram and
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presence all over social media all over.
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So, you know, you never know when you're going to be shooting
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video. You always have your hair ready
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to, you know, at least. I tried, but it's just, you know
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what, it's just another thing that if I could, if I could give
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up having to be a slave to it, I would if I could.
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Helene says that ever since the pandemic, she stopped wearing
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underwire bras. I mean, there are great options
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now. Used to be, if you wanted
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support, you really didn't have a choice.
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But learning to, you know, not worry about that during the
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pandemic and then making it a point to find something better
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afterwards is, I think what you. Agree with that.
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I agree. I think there's so many good
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bras that aren't padded and you know, I agree with her.
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And then Becky said just flat out not caring what anyone
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thinks, she stopped worrying about that.
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So I kind of love that. And that's kind of like the the
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thing. So that's that's certainly good
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food for thought. Like what, what did we used to
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pretend to enjoy? For me, it was definitely being
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out later than say, even 830 or 9.
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Like I definitely have no excitement over going anywhere.
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That's going to be late at night.
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And we've talked about this a lot.
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Oh. Yeah, I, I have.
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No, I would never even pretend to enjoy going out unless it's
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something I really, really, really wanted to do.
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I don't have that. I really don't feel like I have
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the energy to pretend that I'm having fun anymore.
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You know what I mean? Right.
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And I. Have I have that situation often
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too, like when it where it comes to FOMO if you're missing out, I
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just don't even pretend that if I don't think I'm going to like
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it, I just don't even pretend. I'm just like, not for me.
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Right. And I think when you are
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younger, you do have to put that, that mask on to go out and
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pretend you're having a great time and you, you're so happy
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you're there and, you know, make small talk and with people, you
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could really, you know, careless on what they're saying or, you
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know, but as you get older, it's just really, really, really hard
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to do that. It's, it's really hard.
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And also my nails. I gave up doing fake nails.
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And I don't know how long, honestly, everybody that will
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last, but it's been 8 months, so it's been a while.
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Yeah. And I can tell you one thing
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now, look, they don't look, I mean, they're healthy, but they
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don't look great. But it is one thing that I hated
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to do, but I was doing it like I hated sitting there getting my
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nails done. I thought, there's a million
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other things I should I could be doing, but I would do it just
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because, oh, OK, I was doing those dip nails in the gel and
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all that. And then I was like, I'm done.
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I don't have the patience to sit for an hour and and put it in my
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schedule, whatever. And I don't miss it right now.
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I really don't. I think it's something that's
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kind of freeing just to have your normal regular nails.
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You certainly have a valid reason for not wanting nails
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that are too too much because you are very hands on in your
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line of work. You're very.
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Exactly. I stopped going.
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I never really started going regularly, but I'd start every
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now and again and say I this is the new Eden because there is
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something that makes you feel very polished when you have your
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nails done. Absolutely.
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When I started my job back on TV, for those who don't know, I
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had left the TV station for a few years where I work and I am
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back on TV daily and I said I'm that's it, I'm going to have my
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nails done. I wasn't planning to do like,
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you know, any kind of acrylics or anything like that, but I was
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going to regularly get gel because it stays nice every two
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weeks you go and they do. And I lasted, I just couldn't,
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just couldn't do it. Can't stand the there is a lot
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of small talk that goes into when you go to get your nails
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done. And that's something I mean, and
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I feel rude just doing the whole like, let me just put my airbud,
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you know, airbuds in and I just yeah, I just, I'm sitting there.
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I can think of a million things I correct.
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A million other things you'd rather be doing than sitting
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there. And also, my nails have never
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been healthier. I mean it.
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When I first took those off, oh, my God, it was bad.
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Yeah. They're so thin.
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Mine were so thin. Let me ask you.
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This. Circling back to our
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conversation about 59 versus being in your early 60s
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dentistry, let's talk about going to the dentist.
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Are you finding that you're having any more issues like than
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you used to with your teeth? I think I'm.
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Clinching mine not. With my teeth, it's my TMJ.
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It's yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I have terrible TMJ.
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Terrible, terrible. Nothing works.
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I even tried Botox for it. Didn't.
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I did too and they always ask me are you wearing your mouth
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guard? And I'm like, no, because do you
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wear yours? I wear mine and it doesn't help.
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Because I take it out every night, so I always forget.
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Like, they're like, well, it's a little better than nothing.
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I'm like, not really, Yeah. So I wear it, but I think the
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clenching has gotten like crazy out of hand to the point where I
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do get headaches too. And I can feel like the muscles
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in my face hard as a rock. But I just, I don't know, some
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things I really, as you get older, you weigh what's more
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important. Some things really bother you
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and then other things you're like, OK, it is what it is.
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I mean, I, it does. I kind of almost get used to it.
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I'll use a heat pack on my neck because I feel like it.
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I feel like your jaw goes to your neck or your neck goes to
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your jaw, whichever way it's all connected.
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So, you know, but yeah, I, I think dentistry, I think like I
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said, aging like sun damage on your skin.
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Like I saw one woman on TikTok and she was like, not even, I
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would say she was probably early 70s and she went on there with
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probably some of the worst sun damage I've ever seen in my
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life. And she was on there saying,
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look at me, everybody, this is from baking in the sun.
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Like, look at me like, don't go out in the sun.
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Wear your sunscreen. I mean, I thought that was
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great. I mean, I just think that if
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there's one thing I always say where sunscreens try to stay out
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of the sun, because I really, really, really, really do think
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it makes a huge difference. You're a runner, so.
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Yes, but I always wear a hat. I literally or, and I also do
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that thing I told you where I wear sunblock everywhere.
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I add a little tanning lotion to it.
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So I, I always have this tan. People think it's because I run,
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but it's, I wear sunblock when I run.
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But the my son's girlfriend is a tennis pro and I said to her,
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they were going to the beach the other day.
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And I said to both of them, I'm like wear sunscreen.
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And she's very, very tan genetically, but also she's just
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got this golden beautiful tan. And she said we won't.
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And I thought. You wish you.
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Did you? Will wish you did.
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I've said that time balloon in the face to my kids.
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I give up. I I'm like, don't come crying to
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me about any sun damage wrinkles.
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I don't want to hear it because, you know, they would just want
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to be tan. So, yeah, so.
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Speaking of my son, my nest is no longer empty.
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He's back temporarily. While he was living out of town,
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he got a job back here in town and so he is back under the
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roof. I don't see him as much as, you
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know, when he used to live here because he does have a
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girlfriend thing, a life. I mean, he has a life and he
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hasn't asked me what's for dinner at all, not one time.
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So that's how long it's been a week, One minute.
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Hey, give it some time. He's only stayed two nights so.
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Yeah, give it some time, but. He's back, and he stays only
26:03
long enough to get the dog riled up and he's out.
26:07
Yeah, I love when they do that. Let's come in, make the dog bark
26:10
a billion times, and then I'm leaving.
26:12
Goodbye. Yeah, bye.
26:14
Exactly. Let me use some hot water.
26:16
Leave the door open. Oh gosh, I still.
26:19
Remember that story when you went to your daughters apartment
26:22
and she was like fussing at you for leaving a sliding glass door
26:25
open because she now pays the electric bill?
26:27
Right, right. Exactly.
26:30
I mean, I know I said to my husband I would really one time
26:35
love to go to their house and just leave wet towels on the
26:40
floor, you know, stuff all over the kitchen counter.
26:45
Eat a bag of chips and leave the chip like.
26:47
Run the. Dryer on full load with Run the
26:50
dryer on a full load with one washcloth in it.
26:52
Right, right, right. Leave all the lights on.
26:54
You know what I mean? Like or.
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Take out everything in their dryer while it's damp and just
26:59
leave it on. Yes, and just leave it.
27:01
Just leave it. Yeah.
27:03
It would make my day to see their face.
27:06
Oh, really? This is what it was like growing
27:08
up with you. So.
27:09
That's oh, that must be what I meant.
27:12
I told you not to do it. Couple of things I would.
27:16
I want to let everyone know a question we're going to be
27:19
asking you in our ladies only group here shortly.
27:22
But before we do that, couple of things I also wanted to
27:24
recommend if you're looking for things to scroll, if you haven't
27:27
yet followed Leanne Morgan, the comedian on social media, of
27:32
course you want to do that. And if you haven't watched her,
27:34
her special, I think it's Netflix.
27:36
I'm every woman. Yeah, I think it's Netflix.
27:39
It's just so relatable. I mean, some of the minutia she
27:43
brings up about being a woman in her 50s is incredibly spot on.
27:50
So I have to recommend that. And also there's a tick tocker
27:55
Instagrammer called Just being Melanie and she has formed the
27:59
We Don't Care Club and she'll say, welcome to this meeting of
28:03
the We Don't Care club. And then she'll launch into a
28:05
list of things that we don't care.
28:07
We just don't care, you know, oh, you have to cancel your our
28:11
plans. We don't care.
28:12
We don't want to go anyway, so it's just all the things we no
28:15
longer care about, very similar to the things that we mentioned
28:18
a little while ago. Right, right.
28:20
And then? We want to have you thinking
28:23
about this. If you're a woman over 50 when
28:25
you were like, say, in your 40s, or it could be recently, did you
28:29
ever do something to just blow up your life?
28:33
And we talked about calling that the paramenopausal meltdown.
28:38
Will you explain why you have this burning question?
28:41
The things you've been reading, the things we've been talking
28:43
about? Well, not so much as reading,
28:47
but seeing other women who are in perimenopause.
28:51
Of course, I'm way past that point, but hindsight is 2020.
28:56
OK. And the reason why I say that is
29:00
now that I can look back. Oh my God, I think the like 40
29:07
to 50 was the hardest, hardest emotional time in my entire
29:14
life. And I didn't see it.
29:16
I didn't see it because I was going through it, but I think it
29:20
was all related to perimenopause.
29:24
And back then, even though I'm only 62, they really didn't talk
29:31
about it. And all they would say to you is
29:33
until you haven't had a period for a year, there's nothing we
29:36
can do for you. So bye.
29:38
And you'd be like, that's it. I mean, that's all you're giving
29:41
me. So you just had to suffer and
29:45
suffer and the mood swings and the sadness and then the
29:50
happiness and then the anger and which now to get that riled up.
30:00
I'm not saying I'm not, I don't get those flashes of mood and
30:03
all of that. But when you're in your 40s and
30:06
10 years ago, 15 years ago now, people did not talk about peri
30:10
menopause. I mean, now people are likely to
30:13
know the phrase, but it's a billion times more prevalently
30:18
talked about now than it was then.
30:19
I mean, I just thought I was going crazy.
30:23
And I feel like now they'll, they'll recommend supplements or
30:27
medications to help with, you know, whatever you're suffering
30:33
with. You know what I mean?
30:34
Back in the days when I was in my 40s, they, they didn't offer
30:39
anything. So my point is, I think things
30:44
you do when you're going through perimenopause, if you, if you
30:49
could stop and pause sometimes menopause and really look at
30:57
what's going on because it's always generally not always
31:02
related to hormones when you're in your 40s because you have,
31:05
it's the lack thereof or the way dipping and then it dips back up
31:10
and then dipping back down. It's just a roller coaster.
31:14
And I just think that things you did in your 40s when you're in
31:20
your 60s or even late 50s or even middle 50s, you're like,
31:24
God, I was crazy or what? Who was she?
31:28
You know what I mean? Maybe don't make life altering
31:33
decisions easily in your perimenopausal phase because
31:42
even that Oprah special there was some crazy stat where this
31:47
huge percentage of divorces were attributed to perimenopause and
31:52
well. That's why I can't wait to talk
31:54
about this when we talk about it and the question.
31:57
Is, and we're asking this over on our ladies only on cluttered
32:01
and unfiltered Facebook group so that it can be kind of within
32:07
our circle. Our question is, have you ever
32:10
either had a perimenopausal meltdown of some sort where you
32:15
blew up your life or have you come close to it and looking
32:19
back, you're just really grateful that you stuck through
32:23
whatever it was? Now, that's not to say you have
32:25
to stick out every terrible situation just because acts
32:28
hormones believe you us. There's nobody telling you to do
32:33
that. What we are saying is be willing
32:36
to take a brief hiatus from pushing eject, whether it's
32:42
work, relationships, just giving somebody that talking to, you
32:46
know, they really need, you know, maybe maybe you don't.
32:49
Maybe it's not time to give somebody the what for that could
32:55
really use a good talking to. Yeah, means just so we'll put
32:59
that on our on our ladies only page.
33:02
What else? What else do we want to talk
33:04
about while I've got you here, Chris?
33:07
Well, in an upcoming episode we are going to tackle organization
33:12
because everyone loves those episodes.
33:15
So if anyone has anything in particular, an area in the home
33:21
they want to go through or talk about or just purging in
33:25
general, which I love to talk about because I see how life
33:31
changing it is to simplify and let go of things.
33:36
Whatever you guys want to talk about when it comes to
33:38
organization, I'm here and I can't wait to do an upcoming
33:42
episode on it. Absolutely.
33:44
And by all means, go down that rabbit hole of our index.
33:48
Go to unclutteredinandfilter.com or or just wherever you're
33:51
listening. You can go back and you'll find
33:53
episodes dealing with cleaning out the closet, multiple
33:56
episodes of that. You'll find things from spring
33:59
cleaning, Swedish death cleaning, which is something
34:03
that relates to making sure that your kids aren't getting rid of
34:06
the stuff that you should have done for them.
34:08
There's, there's another new book out.
34:10
I don't know if you saw that newest book about nobody wants
34:14
your shit. It's called then you know, it's
34:17
just one episode after another. If you go back, we did offices,
34:21
we've done storage units, we've done garages.
34:24
We've done so many different areas.
34:26
So you can certainly go down a nice long rabbit hole.
34:29
You guys that are just finding us for the first time.
34:31
You have almost three years of episodes you can go through.
34:34
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34:36
We were so young. We weren't just so you were
34:39
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34:45
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34:48
But remember, 510 years from now, we're going to look back
34:50
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34:53
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