Latest / The Junto Podcast / E2: Emerging American Countercultures
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- 0:04Hello, and welcome to the Juneto podcast, where we promote the practical applications
- 0:09of critical thought and bold creativity.
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- 0:21Hello, America. I'm your host, Edgar Mills, and welcome to Episode 2,
- 0:25Emerging American Countercultures.
- 0:28So this is a topic that I enjoy.
- 0:31It's near and dear to me, and I think it's very interesting.
- 0:34The reemergence of countercultures in America.
- 0:38They've been around always on the fringes, but we're seeing a reemergence,
- 0:45and we're seeing them because of the Internet, we're seeing them more clearly,
- 0:49and with a little more understanding and acceptance even.
- 0:55The internet is magical in that all the information is out there and if you know how to,
- 1:01analyze it you can find you can find
- 1:04it and people who have diverse
- 1:07interests go and look for diverse things this
- 1:12this counterculture isn't one unified
- 1:16thing this is a very splintered it's
- 1:20not even a group it's just several groups with several
- 1:25overlapping goals really and not
- 1:30only counterculture but that's that's how movements are made right there political
- 1:34movements or artistic movements and whatnot you don't have to believe 100% of
- 1:40what someone else believes to have supporting or overlapping goals.
- 1:47But one thing's for sure is that many, many people are beginning to reject the
- 1:54mainstream norms that exist today.
- 1:59They're always being twisted, the norms. They're always being shaped by the,
- 2:04Whoever's in charge or I don't want to put rich against poor,
- 2:09but usually people attribute that the people with money try to shape what the
- 2:15norms are that people without money have to conform to.
- 2:20But the first group I want to talk about, because I know a lot of these folks,
- 2:24is the self-sustainment or the off-grid movement.
- 2:28People who are out there seeking to separate from the grid, the mainstream,
- 2:38to live self-sustainably, to grow their own food, to educate their children
- 2:46on their own, to build their own structures, and things like that.
- 2:52Some people in mainstream, I imagine, think that that's crazy.
- 2:58I don't know that it's loony.
- 3:02And now I'm only 52. In the 70s, though, people looked at survivalists like
- 3:08they were legit whack jobs.
- 3:11And this isn't survivalism or survivalists or necessarily militiamen out trying
- 3:19to create little bands of warriors in the woods.
- 3:23These are educated humans with a desire to live purely and not have their children
- 3:32or their spouses or their family tainted by mainstream consumerism.
- 3:43I pause to say capitalism because I am an unrepentant capitalist.
- 3:49But what's that word I'm looking for?
- 3:53Materialism, consumerism and materialism, and government-mandated education.
- 4:01And now I'm just a small tirade here, but ever since the existence of the Department
- 4:06of Education in America,
- 4:09our measurable education statistics have tanked as compared to other civilized
- 4:16first world countries. Why is that?
- 4:20I say because of centralized control, top-down mandates.
- 4:25And I think centralization in general is bad for most things.
- 4:31I think that lends itself to not being nuanced to solve the little problems.
- 4:39For instance, out of 360 million or 370 million people in America,
- 4:44one answer does not fit everyone.
- 4:47That's just the way it is. I don't care if it's education or monetary policy
- 4:52or land policy or anything else.
- 4:55So anyway, these off-grid folks, these self-sustaining people, what drives them?
- 5:02What motivates them? Well, environmentalists.
- 5:05Now, I'm not an activist, but I consider myself an environmentalist.
- 5:11We all think it's probably very important to keep the earth clean and to not
- 5:16molest the earth needlessly.
- 5:20Economic stability. If you simplify life to where you live on your own piece
- 5:27of land, you farm and grow and kill your own food,
- 5:33how simple is economics there?
- 5:36You educate your own children, and then you trade with your neighbors for clothes
- 5:41and items of comfort and That is very simplistic, therefore adding to economic simplicity.
- 5:51Because right now in the world today, in America today, economic instability is insane.
- 6:00Fortunately, Bitcoin exists, and we'll talk about that in a little bit.
- 6:04Some people just want autonomy, outright autonomy from the current systems.
- 6:11No one, I don't think anyone likes to be told what to do.
- 6:15The current system does just that via policy, tells us how we can live,
- 6:21how we can eat, sometimes what we can and can't listen to or read and all those things.
- 6:28So detaching from that seems kind of like a romantic idea, but is it that bad? Really?
- 6:35Now, some implied things are you are required to have a little skill.
- 6:41Farming isn't easy as far as labor goes and even intelligence goes.
- 6:47Some people can't grow a cactus in the desert or a palm tree in the tropics.
- 6:53So individuals and communities also who are going with this off-grid sort of way,
- 7:01maybe they're looking to use more renewable energy sources or just to exercise
- 7:08their traditional skills or to grow their own food that is not tainted by, I don't know.
- 7:15The big evil is Monsanto, I guess, and the FDA has all these backdoor deals
- 7:23with all these folks to allow whatever things do and don't go into food.
- 7:27Our food has certainly been tainted. I think that's one of the platforms that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
- 7:36Is pushing, is to clean up the food.
- 7:39Now, politics aside, who could be against that? Do you know? I'm not sure.
- 7:46People who argue that just to be contrarian to political opponents and aren't
- 7:54looking at the bigger picture, I think that's a shame.
- 7:58But the lifestyle of self-sustainment, they kind of emphasize anti-consumption, right?
- 8:08Minimalism, sustaining and using less of the earth, of the world.
- 8:15And they're trying to localize their economic system and simplify it.
- 8:22And there is nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that.
- 8:27I think, I think the environmentalists probably embrace this way more,
- 8:33even the lefties embrace this way more.
- 8:37But oddly enough, so do the extreme far right, the diehard hunters,
- 8:42guys who are out there and walking the mountains in Montana and getting,
- 8:48not trophy hunting, but hunting for food.
- 8:52I think those guys are some of the most diehard environmentalists.
- 8:55And the left-wingers refuse to see that,
- 8:59just as the right-wingers refuse to see the left-wing environmentalists as being
- 9:06rational, because sometimes they're not very.
- 9:09But at any rate, to try to minimize your own ecological footprint is just good stewardship.
- 9:19Just try to consume less as an individual without going around telling everyone
- 9:23else what they can and can't consume.
- 9:26So, yeah, that's a form of protest and consumerism and industrial excess and carbon pollution.
- 9:34If you're so lucky, you might get to hear Leonardo DiCaprio or Taylor Swift
- 9:39tell us about how important it is to minimize our carbon footprint as they're
- 9:47flying around in their private jets.
- 9:50I love – there's an app that I'm sure you guys have seen that tracks Taylor
- 9:55Swift's private flights leaving out of Kansas, going across Kansas and back and just –.
- 10:04And countless trips every year flying around in her private jet.
- 10:09It would take the average human, I don't know, a hundred years of driving a
- 10:16car every day to match her yearly footprint.
- 10:21Insane. Hypocrite at its finest. So the self-sustainment crew,
- 10:26a lot of the people I know who are into that, they're libertarians.
- 10:30And every year, there's a festival called the great create.
- 10:35And it's essentially a do-it-yourself convention.
- 10:39Yes, there's politics involved, but people who grow mushrooms and brew their own beer.
- 10:45And my friend Jake, I don't know if he still does it, but he had a thing called
- 10:50Vanarchy where they set up expedition vans, which was cool as hell.
- 10:54All sorts of things like that. Anyway, yeah, there's a political component,
- 10:58but it doesn't have to be a political component.
- 11:01Now, as we get into the political component, we're talking about,
- 11:04generally speaking, the minarchist libertarians, right? The minimalists.
- 11:09I consider myself an anarcho-capitalist, if you want to really,
- 11:13really get down to it. But the minarchists.
- 11:18They kind of run parallel to the off-grid movement and their thought process.
- 11:23But their thing is minimal state interference, minimal state coercion,
- 11:30minimal governmental rules and restrictions and policies that affect the individual.
- 11:36They believe that the government has a very,
- 11:41very restricted role in a society, and that is to provide security,
- 11:48to make sure contract disputes do not go to violence.
- 11:54As stated in the U.S. Constitution, to protect individual rights.
- 11:58The government does not grant rights. It exists to protect inherent rights and
- 12:06to maybe maintain infrastructure.
- 12:08Now, sure, I think government roads are awesome.
- 12:13But as you all should know, government roads are just contracted roads.
- 12:19There ain't many governments. Now, my dad, no, okay, I'm going to back up.
- 12:23My dad worked for the City of Atlanta Streets and Highways Division for 35 years,
- 12:28and he has either graded, destroyed, or repaved every road in the City of Atlanta.
- 12:37And that's a city function. But if you only knew,
- 12:42if you only had an inkling of the information that I heard from my dad over
- 12:4835 years about the waste and the inefficiency that went on in that agency, oh, my God,
- 12:57everybody would be suing the city of Atlanta. Yeah.
- 13:01So the government itself has minimal role in our lives or it should.
- 13:07And for those of you out there who don't believe that, is it possible that you're
- 13:15maybe scared of too much freedom? I don't know, man.
- 13:18But the government doesn't need to be doing the things, all the things that it's doing.
- 13:23Now, given my background, my work history, I believe in decentralized movement,
- 13:32decentralized efforts.
- 13:34I believe small groups of people, small groups of communities can make decisions.
- 13:41Better things happen for that community and each individually, right?
- 13:47Are we going to build a grandiose thing? No.
- 13:51Are we going to build a super freeway, 20 lanes wide going across Americas?
- 13:58No, that's not community oriented.
- 14:02That's a big nation state thing to do.
- 14:08Small-time communities do not need that. And if they want that,
- 14:12then guess what? They can coordinate with the next community over.
- 14:15Hey, would you guys like to build a really awesome road between our communities?
- 14:20And then they negotiate and figure out the pros and cons and either do or do not.
- 14:27So decentralized is the way to
- 14:29go. But in a decentralized economy or decentralized government or society,
- 14:38you could implement a free market system that would truly and really be a free market system.
- 14:47Now, some of you out there are going to carry on about what about monopolies, and I understand that.
- 14:51But I side with Ayn Rand that monopolies cannot thrive under a true free market
- 14:59system. What makes monopolies possible is cronyism.
- 15:03You can call it crony capitalism if you want, or you can call it late stage capitalism if you want.
- 15:10But cronyism exists, and it can only exist if there is a capitalist out there
- 15:17who has a government man making policy in his pocket.
- 15:22That's cronyism. That is not the free market. That is not capitalism. That is pure cronyism.
- 15:30So the free market minus the politician willing to write policy for money will thrive. It will thrive.
- 15:40So with a minimal government, then the free market would be what it could be imagined to be.
- 15:48And even then, in its current state, it's still better than the vast majority of systems out there.
- 15:55I didn't know until probably about 2010.
- 16:00I didn't know about Ron Paul much. I wasn't very political up until about then.
- 16:08And a friend of mine introduced me to Ron Paul.
- 16:12That guy, we missed an opportunity. I'm pretty sure he ran for president probably...
- 16:22Was it 08? I don't remember.
- 16:26We missed it. We missed an opportunity. He's, I'm not saying he's out of the game.
- 16:31He still has a podcast and he's, he's still out there doing lectures and all those things.
- 16:36But I hate, I don't think he has any interest even in being president,
- 16:40even if it were a guaranteed shot. I don't know, but he's brilliant.
- 16:46He's consistent and he has the American the individual American in his heart,
- 16:56at the best interest of the individual American.
- 17:00Now, Ron Paul famously, someone asked, hey, if you abolish the IRS,
- 17:06what do you replace it with?
- 17:08And he said, well, what do you replace cancer with once you get it out of someone? Nothing.
- 17:13Right. He's so anti-government that he believes that, and I believe that we
- 17:19should get rid of the IRS.
- 17:20The vast majority of those agencies just suck money and just violate rights.
- 17:26The metric between good and bad on these guys, the bad far, far outweighs the good.
- 17:35So, minarchist libertarian movement, minimal state coercion,
- 17:40minimal state interference, minimal state policy, individual communities decentralized
- 17:45taking steps to make their lives better and yes by virtue of making their own
- 17:53lives better they make people around them their lives better so,
- 17:58think about that in the current
- 18:01in the current bitcoin was
- 18:04not in my lexicon in 2000 i don't know eight or ten or so i heard an article
- 18:12npr radio article on bitcoin way back and i thought oh nerds that sounds like
- 18:20some nerd stuff neat you can buy pizza with with digital currency awesome.
- 18:25I'm sure me like you probably oh man if i knew then what i know now well i'm
- 18:32a bitcoin holder Of course I am, and I buy a little bit all the time.
- 18:38Now, never mind what people, if you think it's a non-traceable and non-this and non-that.
- 18:43Depends on the source of where you keep your Bitcoin and how you buy your Bitcoin.
- 18:48Ultimately, it could be. But the point of Bitcoin is that it's not manipulatable.
- 18:57It's finite. It's finite.
- 18:59The Bitcoin that gets mined, there's a finite amount that gets mined.
- 19:06And I want to say every four years, they half that amount.
- 19:12And I want to go further and say probably somewhere around the year 2074 or
- 19:18so or 2078, I can't remember, Bitcoin will stop being mined altogether.
- 19:24At that time, Bitcoin will be so frigging valuable.
- 19:32It's unreal.
- 19:34Folks, for those of you out there,
- 19:37the Luddites who reject artificial intelligence and reject the modernization
- 19:44of everything, you can reject it all you like, but it's the way. It's what's happening.
- 19:51We're not going to go back in time, no matter how much some of us want to,
- 19:55to include the off-gridders.
- 19:58They, sure, they will live that way, but there's a computer in their life.
- 20:04There's a phone in their life.
- 20:07To function in a modern society, it's the way it is. You almost have to have it.
- 20:14You would be far behind the power curve. And that's quite all right if you want
- 20:18to live that way, if you don't have other humans depending on you to stay behind that power curve.
- 20:24But mark my words, Bitcoin will be a very valuable currency. It's already valuable.
- 20:32I want to say it's already over definitely $107,000, maybe $109,000.
- 20:38I was buying Bitcoin when it was at $30,000. And I thought, man, I missed the boat.
- 20:45So anyway, Bitcoin, decentralized currency that is not, you cannot counterfeit
- 20:55it. You can't duplicate it.
- 20:59And the more and more organizations or businesses or even individuals that start to trade in Bitcoin.
- 21:10You will see that that that is
- 21:13that's gonna that's gonna emerge more
- 21:16now when you have the companies now i'm
- 21:19not an economist folks and i'm not really even a conspiracy theorist
- 21:23too much but when you got companies like blackrock out there buying up the bitcoin
- 21:28they're buying it up what are they going to do with it they're trying to figure
- 21:33out how to manipulate it i'm sure And I think probably that if they think they own all of it,
- 21:40then they will be able to either just leave it or or manipulate it somehow.
- 21:47And that probably is true to some degree.
- 21:50But there's already so much out there now that there's no way they can own all the Bitcoin.
- 21:56Anyway, that's for another discussion. I'm sidetracking here and I'm sorry about that.
- 22:01Countercultures in America, folks. Self-sustainment, off-grid movement. Thank you.
- 22:05Good people, mostly. Minarchist libertarian movement. Awesome people, mostly.
- 22:12Next, I want to talk about music. Countercultures in music.
- 22:15There's a phrase that I'd only heard once or twice. My son turned me on to it.
- 22:20It was called the alternative.
- 22:22The alternative, right? The country alternative music. The new rebels of country music.
- 22:28Now, my son and I coined, I think we coined this phrase. We called it counter
- 22:33country before I knew the term, the alternative.
- 22:38Now I happen to be a huge fan of Charlie Crockett and, and Sierra Farrell and
- 22:45some of those types who play traditional music,
- 22:51but with non-traditional subject matter, or not only non-traditional subject
- 22:57matter, maybe it's a traditional song.
- 22:59Now, Charlie Crockett covers a lot
- 23:02of music from a lot of classic country artists, but it's not even that.
- 23:06What's the counterculture part of this?
- 23:10These days, it's how they're getting their music out there.
- 23:15It's how they're making the music. Well, obviously the good old-fashioned way,
- 23:20right? On a guitar, bass, and a drum kit.
- 23:24But in the modern age...
- 23:27Young people who can't move off to Nashville and grovel at the feet of the music
- 23:34executives, you have a computer right here.
- 23:39I'm a nobody, and I'm on a computer talking into a microphone right now,
- 23:43and this is going to get out to thousands of people.
- 23:47One day, hopefully, hundreds of thousands. But my point is this. I am now a talk radio guy.
- 23:54I didn't go through any studio. I didn't go through any network.
- 23:57I didn't go through anything.
- 23:59A friend of mine said, hey, we got to do a dang podcast. Get on it.
- 24:04So these musicians who, ultra talented, by the way, Charlie Crockett is to me
- 24:09one of the most talented guys out there.
- 24:10I don't necessarily mean the way he plays guitar either. I mean,
- 24:14just his showmanship, his style.
- 24:17At any rate, I digress.
- 24:19How they're getting the music out there.
- 24:22You can, they're skipping over the mainstream.
- 24:26They're skipping the traditional steps and they're going straight from basement
- 24:31studio to worldwide via YouTube or Rumble or Spotify or whatever.
- 24:40So when someone like that becomes popular, they've become popular via grassroots
- 24:47movement because these people are still out there playing small venues.
- 24:51They're still playing these little music festivals in rural America or some
- 24:58little suburban near Atlanta, right?
- 25:01And they're putting their music on all these social media platforms that the
- 25:05Luddites hate, but it's the way you do business now.
- 25:10I consider Instagram and these things, and I don't like Instagram very much,
- 25:16by the way, because they have shadow banned me. and I've had the same number
- 25:20of followers for like the past six months.
- 25:23And I'm sure each and every one of those followers are legit and not robots.
- 25:28But beyond that, my stuff don't get out there.
- 25:32At any rate, that's a different story. That's a different algorithm, right?
- 25:35What I'm saying now is that this counterculture movement of musicians and artists,
- 25:42not just musicians, all types of artists,
- 25:46they can get their stuff on social media and
- 25:50this is the modern equivalent of the
- 25:53mad men you guys saw the mad men series back in
- 25:56you know 10 15 years ago with the
- 25:59the the 1960s ads salesmen ad marketers the social media is the marketing platform
- 26:08now there's companies that have adapted to that and they're trying to help you
- 26:12get your algorithm tuned up and they're trying to put your website out on front
- 26:16and all this and that. But.
- 26:19Instead of going and putting yourself in the hands of a couple of well-dressed
- 26:23dudes and getting them to make the right catchphrase and give you the right
- 26:28look and put your music or your product in front of the right eyes,
- 26:33you're doing that yourself just by putting your stuff on the internet.
- 26:37And it's magical, folks. It's magical. And it's to be, I don't want to say taken
- 26:42advantage of, but yeah, to be taken advantage of.
- 26:46A small businessman, like myself, I have to take advantage of the opportunities that I have.
- 26:56I can try to make opportunities for sure, but social media is one of the ways,
- 27:02and it's the majority way that most people find me.
- 27:06Yes, word of mouth is awesome. And in a localized area, the word of mouth works just fine.
- 27:11But when you have somebody coming to your course from Oklahoma or West Virginia,
- 27:19coming to Georgia to take a course, well, they got that via social media and
- 27:25possibly even the word of mouth on social media, right?
- 27:28Or the reviews that people leave and things like that.
- 27:32So yes, it is to be taken advantage of. Do some people abuse it? Yes.
- 27:37Do some people sell out still to, you know, big money,
- 27:42corporate organizations and then pimp certain products and tell tall tales in
- 27:50order to get ad revenue and such?
- 27:53Yeah, of course they do. That's always going to happen, folks.
- 27:56The tool is the tool. The tool in itself is not evil.
- 28:02Just like the gun. There was a school shooting just the other day.
- 28:06And then all the anti-gunners come out about how many people,
- 28:10how kids die mostly by guns now.
- 28:13That's the highest number of deaths is by guns.
- 28:17Well, a gun is an efficient killing tool. The gun isn't, but when it says gun
- 28:23causes death, I beg to differ.
- 28:26Guns do not cause death. And by oversimplifying that, they're doing a very large
- 28:33disservice to the root causes of all these deaths, which has to do with what?
- 28:41Anger, mental instability, over-medication, confusion of any flavor, you name it.
- 28:50So the gun just happens to be the tool. The internet just happens to be the
- 28:54tool for these artists to get their word out there, to get their product,
- 29:00to get their art out there in front of people.
- 29:03So it's good. It's good. Don't hate the internet. Don't hate technology.
- 29:10And some of the people I've heard lately really talking about these things,
- 29:16sort of anti-technology, where do you think I heard it?
- 29:19Yeah, via podcast, via YouTube.
- 29:23They're using it because they're taking advantage of it. It's a tool to be taken advantage of.
- 29:28In the 1940s, what would I do? I'd go get a soapbox and stand in the middle
- 29:34of downtown Atlanta, hold a sign up, says Osprey Shooting Solutions,
- 29:38come get your train in with me, hand out business cards.
- 29:42I mean, I guess. But these days, I got the internet.
- 29:47And so do you. Let's talk about some of the other artists.
- 29:51I've gotten a couple of blogs that I posted on the website, and I'm kind of
- 29:55using those as notes. These are things that I feel deeply about.
- 29:59I don't want to read the blogs word for word, but I want to hit some topics.
- 30:03I'm an artist at heart, folks. I think if I would not have gone on to be a professional
- 30:08soldier, I probably for sure would have continued to be a bike messenger for a while.
- 30:13I'd probably still be a bike messenger actually, but I'd be a star of an artist
- 30:17I'd be out there trying to paint and do digital art and sculpt and all those
- 30:23things I loved doing those things as a youth And I like doing them now,
- 30:30Creativity people some people never Some people never grow or nourish their
- 30:37creativity And then they sit at their office job and they go on and do things
- 30:42and they never get their stuff out there.
- 30:44And then they kind of go, it just kind of goes unseen or unheard or unexplored.
- 30:49And, and people have regrets from that. And that's, that's terrible.
- 30:54I think artists, if you take the politics out of all this, artists.
- 31:05Some of them are shitty people. I'm okay. Not all artists are good people, I guess.
- 31:10But what would life look like without
- 31:13art and when i say art i'm
- 31:16talking about the arts folks i mean what would life look like
- 31:19without music what would life look like without the murals on the walls in the
- 31:25in the city or without interesting architecture if you go to soviet you know
- 31:32russia never mind the traditional you know the kremlin because that's some pretty
- 31:37interesting architecture.
- 31:38But if you get that Cold War era architecture in West Germany or East Germany,
- 31:45man, that's some pretty miserable, pretty morose stuff going on there.
- 31:49Just blank concrete, right?
- 31:52Even minimalist architecture with a little flair is good, but what would life look like without art?
- 32:02And the goodness about the countercultures in America, the various,
- 32:07whatever strand, whatever flavor of counterculture, usually there are artists intermingled in.
- 32:14There's always artists intermingled because they're always looking to explore new things.
- 32:19And that's the curiosity is the goodness of these countercultures.
- 32:23Some people who are not just pushing a counterculture to be rebellion for rebellion's
- 32:35sake or just because you don't like the mainstream just because it's mainstream.
- 32:43Truly, truly curious people seek out other ways, right, wrong, or otherwise.
- 32:49It doesn't, that's not the point. The point is other ways of doing things.
- 32:53Because sometimes there's not a
- 32:55right or wrong way. There's just an acceptable way for you to do a thing.
- 33:00Now, in very technical things, of course, there's a right and wrong way and very technical things.
- 33:05But in art as much as anything there
- 33:08there's a lot of different ways to express a
- 33:11feeling or a thought or a
- 33:14word yeah even a word there's many ways
- 33:17to express it and and throughout the the artists because i would imagine i do
- 33:24imagine it's it's probably hard to make a living as an artist you can you can
- 33:30get your stuff on the internet you can sell your t-shirts on store on the internet and stuff like that.
- 33:35But to make a living where you can pay the rent and things like that,
- 33:39yeah, you still need to get out there and hustle.
- 33:41Your stuff has to be seen by people who consume art.
- 33:45And what my hope is, is that more people will start consuming art.
- 33:49But what these countercultures are challenging is, it's not what they're showing.
- 33:55Art talks about life. It talks about circumstances and lost love and injustice and all these things.
- 34:04But what the countercultures are truly questioning, they're calling it a question,
- 34:10is the systems of how these things are being promoted and distributed.
- 34:16How these things are, that's what the counterculture of today is changing.
- 34:21How the information is being distributed and promoted, skipping over the gatekeepers.
- 34:28That's an important part is nowadays you can skip over the gatekeepers and go
- 34:34straight to the consumer, whatever it is you have.
- 34:38Now, some things obviously are regulated by government, right?
- 34:42But even on the Internet, you can squeeze around, guys. You can wiggle and worm
- 34:47a little bit to avoid some of these, especially if you're a small business.
- 34:52But they're questioning the way things are done, not what's being done,
- 34:56the way things are being done.
- 34:59And usually a countercultural movement, if it's a solid movement,
- 35:04they do promote individuality.
- 35:06What you don't want to get into is a movement that promotes everybody being
- 35:11all the same. And that's not a counterculture.
- 35:15That's just creating a different culture of sort of drones. We don't want that either.
- 35:22Individuality, I think, has always been an American identity.
- 35:27And it used to be highly valued. And I think creativity has always been valued.
- 35:31Not just American, but I mean, the masters, Michelangelo and Rembrandt,
- 35:36to Jackson Pollock, and all the different types of artists out there,
- 35:42and the different music and things.
- 35:45I think there's always been appreciation. Even curmudgeons like myself,
- 35:49guys who sit around grumpy and angry at the world or whatever,
- 35:52I love listening to music.
- 35:54I love looking at art. It takes you to a different space. It gives you a different mindset.
- 36:01So these countercultures, even with the political stuff and even with the off-grid
- 36:07stuff, they promote individuality.
- 36:12Some promote individual wellness, individual strength. And then by virtue of
- 36:18those individuals being strong and expressive and creative, then they're being
- 36:24a value to their community.
- 36:26And their community is flourishing because of their individuality.
- 36:31And that is good. That is good.
- 36:35A lot of these countercultures, they, yeah, sometimes injustice or government
- 36:40overreach or things like that is kind of a talking point.
- 36:45But those talking points become an impetus for dialogue amongst people.
- 36:52Even if you and your wife are hardcore red, conservative, one news network,
- 37:01and you're sitting around and you're talking about these people,
- 37:04about how different and how weird and whatever, what are they after?
- 37:08What are they looking for? What are they trying to change? What's the problem?
- 37:11At least there's a dialogue there.
- 37:14And the key to a good movement, I think, a good grassroots movement,
- 37:18a good decentralized, grassroots, countercultural movement is that you're not
- 37:25just against the mainstream.
- 37:28You're not just against something.
- 37:30You're not just a rebel without a clue.
- 37:33But you're for something. For something positive. That's the new spin that I've
- 37:38learned in my older years, is that you have to be for something positive.
- 37:45And so if you can unify people through a positive connection, right,
- 37:52expressing your individual liberty and their individual liberty to be different
- 37:55as they choose and to express differently, but still appreciate and express
- 38:00that we can positively affect our community.
- 38:03By being two different, completely different individuals.
- 38:09Individuals that at least value creativity, individuality, value community,
- 38:14and just value human connection.
- 38:18We don't have to be the same for us to connect, folks.
- 38:21We don't have to be the same for us to connect. The value of creativity,
- 38:26it's beyond just entertainment. It's beyond a pretty picture or a nice song.
- 38:32The creativity can help us to reflect to critique social ills and to to just grow as people.
- 38:43So the as the countercultures re-emerge in america and they are here folks there
- 38:47and the beauty of it is they they kind of coexist you don't have to be on the
- 38:53same you don't have to go protest the same thing right you don't have to go
- 38:58throw molotov cocktails at cops to live your own protest.
- 39:03You can do what you do. And by example, and by defining your own ethos,
- 39:09just by the way you live, you can challenge the population to think in a more open way.
- 39:16Well, look at this guy. What's he got going on? He seems healthy, happy, positive.
- 39:22And then you can challenge the local populace to not be like you, but hey, give it a try.
- 39:29Try something different. Open up.
- 39:31Consider another idea. Go paint a picture.
- 39:35So don't look at counterculture as being bad, folks.
- 39:40In the 40s and 50s, we had the beatniks, right?
- 39:44The beat poets, Bukowski and Kerouac and those guys.
- 39:49And they left some good stuff behind.
- 39:53Now, there was a component of communism threaded throughout there, right?
- 40:00Communism rears its ugly head all the time. And I've said this before, and I'll say it again.
- 40:07Communism on a small scale works, and it works just fine. That's what a community
- 40:12is, people who help each other.
- 40:15You don't necessarily need to redistribute wealth, but if there's a rich guy
- 40:19in a small town, That rich guy usually donates to the local church or donates
- 40:24to the food bank, et cetera, employs people and that kind of thing.
- 40:30But the beatniks were in my, I say memory, but as a child, I was born in the 70s.
- 40:38But I read a lot about Kerouac and from the letters from the road, things like that.
- 40:43I like that stuff. But.
- 40:47I never equated it with the communism aspect. So here's what I'm challenging you to do.
- 40:53Look at these countercultures, distill the politics out of it,
- 40:59and just look at the way they're living and what they're doing.
- 41:03Now, in the libertarian principles, and I don't mean the libertarian party,
- 41:08I mean just libertarian little L principles, don't hurt other people and don't
- 41:13take their stuff. That's the mantra.
- 41:16Don't hurt other people and don't take their stuff.
- 41:20If you distill these countercultures and narrow them down to what they are doing,
- 41:26how they're doing it, are they hurting other people and are they taking their stuff?
- 41:33If the answer is no, then let them ride. I mean, don't hate on them. Why do you got to hate?
- 41:38Let it ride. Watch the off-grid guy.
- 41:42If you take pleasure in watching that guy fail, then keep your eyes on him. see what happens.
- 41:46If he fails and fails spectacularly, then there's your, I told you so go give him a hand, help him up.
- 41:53But I'm going to share.
- 41:56If any of you have never seen the documentary called Alone in the Wilderness,
- 42:00and it was a documentary of a fellow named Dick Pranke.
- 42:05Who I think he was in the financial trades, you know, in the city,
- 42:10some city, I don't know where,
- 42:12And in his 50s, for a few summers in a row, he went to Alaska all by himself and built a cabin.
- 42:20And he built it with handmade tools and just materials that he got from the woods.
- 42:25And eventually, he retired and just went up there full time,
- 42:30hence alone in the wilderness.
- 42:32He had zero technology. He made all his own tools.
- 42:36He built his own cabin with no cranes, no loaders, no forklifts, no anything.
- 42:45So to think it's not doable, and that was the 50s and 60s, folks.
- 42:49That wasn't way back in history when cavemen were digging holes in caves.
- 42:55This is modern times. This guy did it, and he did it well.
- 43:00So when you're watching these people, just learn.
- 43:04Learn from what they're doing. and admire that they have the balls to go out and give it a go.
- 43:10The music, I heard some statistic, I don't even know.
- 43:13Like at some point in your life, in like your 20s or 30s, you stop listening
- 43:17to new music because you've reached your point of stasis, right?
- 43:22Like, no, everything new sucks. Everything old is awesome.
- 43:27Listen to new music, folks. Listen to new music.
- 43:32I hate to admit but we we have sirius xm that's that's as commercial radio as i can as i can bear,
- 43:40but i listen to sirius xmu which plays pretty now they have a playlist and you
- 43:46hear the same song over and over for several months but at least you'll get
- 43:49some new stuff that you you don't always get spotify is pretty good about it
- 43:53and and you know some of the other streamers are pretty good.
- 43:56But folks, listen to some new music for crying out loud.
- 44:00When's the last time you have been in an art museum?
- 44:04When? I don't know. When's the last time you've critiqued a piece of art or
- 44:07looked at a piece of art for more than a 10-second glance?
- 44:12Get out there. Talk to the people who are doing these things.
- 44:17Talk to the people who are creating the art and the music. Now,
- 44:20some people are just, you know, your typical country guy is probably boozing
- 44:25and smoking weed and chasing women. Who knows?
- 44:29Now, don't hit me up if you're a typical country guy. All right? I love country music.
- 44:33But what I'm saying here is get to know the other people.
- 44:37What other people? The other people. Get to know the other people.
- 44:42And then check it out. Once you've gotten to know the other people,
- 44:45if you hate that person for what they are and what they stand for, then drive on.
- 44:50Never talk to them again and move on. But don't
- 44:54don't lay the failures or successes of a countercultural grassroots movement
- 45:02upon the shoulders of one a-hole that you hate because the world is full of
- 45:09individuals. And then I'll leave you with this.
- 45:11In the words of Ayn Rand, one cannot claim to be a champion of minority rights
- 45:18if one does not champion individual rights because the individual is the smallest minority.
- 45:28All right. I appreciate you guys. Thanks for listening. Follow. Share.
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- 45:42me to explore you'd like to hear on the podcast make
- 45:46suggestions about well some of you out there are welcome to come sit and be
- 45:51a guest on here now i'm not advanced so you have to come to my house but thanks
- 45:58for listening folks get out there do some new things maybe become a counter-cultural
- 46:03revolutionary who knows.
- 46:08Music.