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#614 - Jane Handcock Talks Linking With Snoop, Joining Death Row Records, Bay Area Upbringing & New Album! · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 2: Yo Man, Bootlet Cap Podcast special guests in here. Jane
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  Speaker 2: Hancock is in the building. Welcome Oakland, Big Oakland.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was born in Oakland, raised in.
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  Speaker 2: Richmond, shot to Richmond. Who else is from Richmond? Is
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  Speaker 2: that our pilows from Sue? I am Sue? Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: mean HBK Gang, one of the most underrated crews in
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  Speaker 2: West Coast rap history, put Richmond on the math for
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  Speaker 2: real for sure. Were you like like like going to
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  Speaker 2: their shows, like they used to have, like the like
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  Speaker 2: the like the Halloween Show.
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  Speaker 3: I know, you know what's crazy when they were really
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  Speaker 3: getting it lit. In high school, I went to Oakland
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  Speaker 3: School for the Arts, so I was like being my
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  Speaker 3: little artsy fartsy So so yeah, you're like, I missed.
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  Speaker 2: She's just too heify for me, Like them little young
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  Speaker 2: boys is going crazy. Their shows were crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I missed all the fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I used to look on like my Space or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like MySpace is wild.
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  Speaker 3: But my mom would be like you don't have no
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  Speaker 3: friends over there. You're not going by yourself.
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  Speaker 2: You ever miss MySpace?
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 2: My Space was the best at all of them.
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  Speaker 3: I loved myf I wish they would bring that back.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't too toxic yet. You could, you know, do
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  Speaker 2: the HTML low key. Everyone learned coding.
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  Speaker 3: So we all knew how to code.
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  Speaker 2: And I used to looking put your profile together. Shit,
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  Speaker 2: the girls that have all kind of like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: bedazzled shit going on.
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  Speaker 3: And literally the little glitter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, then the top eight and then you know. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like the most important thing for me was always
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  Speaker 2: having a like dope song from when people came to
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  Speaker 2: my profile.
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  Speaker 3: And you was really dope if you had the playlist.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the playlist, Yeah, I'd be like, yo, which one
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  Speaker 2: should be the first one when people come to my
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  Speaker 2: I want them to know I know my shit. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: MySpace was a movie.
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  Speaker 3: Love the MySpace.
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  Speaker 2: So what was it like growing up in Richmond? Because
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  Speaker 2: Richmond is one of those like various cities, it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: get a lot of I guess love if you will. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I always here about San Francisco.
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  Speaker 3: H It was cool. I mean, I was definitely I
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  Speaker 3: mean Richmond for the most part. There are nice, you
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  Speaker 3: know parts in Richmond, but it was most it was
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  Speaker 3: the hood. And my mom kept me really deep in
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  Speaker 3: the church and like arts programs, so I was like
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  Speaker 3: out of We were just laughing the other day she
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  Speaker 3: was like, you were so nerdy because I would literally
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  Speaker 3: like sign up for the little book report clubs and
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  Speaker 3: stuff like that just to get new books. So that
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  Speaker 3: was me.
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  Speaker 2: So you was like doing all the extracurricular at school,
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  Speaker 2: Like what kind of club do you got up?
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  Speaker 3: Literally like the Richmond Powell Police program stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: What is that? Just volunteering volunteering for the police.
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  Speaker 3: Well it was like they put it like I think
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  Speaker 3: they were over it. But we would volunteer in different
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  Speaker 3: little community centers. I want to I've had the homeless.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember? I don't know. I'm thirty eight. So
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  Speaker 2: we had DARE.
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  Speaker 3: I do remember. I wanted the Dare Essay program.
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  Speaker 2: I was about to say I won the national.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't win the national, but I wanted it. Like
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  Speaker 3: in my.
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  Speaker 2: School, I had to like go on stage and read
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  Speaker 2: it saying, oh that's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Did not follow not none of that.
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  Speaker 2: And I still have. Like I was going through my
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  Speaker 2: mom's storage and she still has like all the I had,
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't know what the fuck they gave me,
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  Speaker 2: but there's all kind I'm like, I had.
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  Speaker 3: A little certificate all of that. I had to read
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  Speaker 3: my little essay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. And then I ended up growing
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  Speaker 2: up and smoking a bunch of hella shrooms. Yeah you're
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  Speaker 2: a shoemeater.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah nice.
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  Speaker 2: How often are you just like a micro doser?
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  Speaker 3: I'm a microdoser. There was maybe one time I did
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  Speaker 3: not microdos.
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  Speaker 2: Things got interesting, Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, my best friend had to just kind of talk me.
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  Speaker 2: You had a bad trip or a good trip?
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know. I don't really know what to
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  Speaker 3: call that. It was just intense.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever like taking a nice amount before going
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  Speaker 2: to like a live show where you know it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be trippy?
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  Speaker 3: Yes? I had to actually sing snoop at a show
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  Speaker 3: and conquered at the conquer Pavilion.
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  Speaker 2: You you before you performed? You ate shrooms? Oh Jesus,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and I didn't. I for some reason, I
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  Speaker 3: was just like, this isn't gonna not gonna be strong.
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  Speaker 3: Whooped me? For real?
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  Speaker 2: So how did that affect your performance or were you
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden super.
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  Speaker 3: Diald in I was dialting. When I had to get
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  Speaker 3: on stage, I was just like, okay, I gotta pull
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  Speaker 3: it together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I was nervous the whole time before that because I
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  Speaker 3: was just like, I can't get on stage like this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, Like I'll go to like I went
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  Speaker 2: to a new team in Paula is going to a
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  Speaker 2: team of polo concert a few weeks ago, and I
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  Speaker 2: ate so much.
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  Speaker 3: It's fun.
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  Speaker 2: It's the best. But but you forget you're in public.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you do because you're just sitting in your chair
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  Speaker 2: and you're so like just you're in your own head,
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  Speaker 2: your own thoughts, and then you were.
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  Speaker 3: Like, oh shit, like let me come back, let me go.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody like walked by and like was like I was like,
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  Speaker 2: oh fuck, I'm in I'm at the forum right now.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just fucking melting.
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  Speaker 3: I love that. I love when you can be your own.
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  Speaker 2: World with it for sure, for sure. So how long
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  Speaker 2: have you been did you start singing in like church
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  Speaker 2: and stuff?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a church baby. I start singing at
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  Speaker 3: like three. Yeah. I just wanted to sing a solo
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  Speaker 3: because I just had a lot of energy as a child.
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  Speaker 2: So what kind of molded your like, Kurt, because you're stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you have like a type of R
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  Speaker 2: and B that like, we don't hear a lot of
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five anymore. Two R and B. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, what kind of motivated you
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  Speaker 2: to kind of be like a traditional real like I
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  Speaker 2: feel like R and B singers a damn near like
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  Speaker 2: they got eight o eights and this damn near like
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  Speaker 2: hip hop R and B fusion, Now you know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a little bit of that too. I
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  Speaker 3: think for me, I just I want to take people
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  Speaker 3: on a run and on a ride. Obviously, I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to get back to like my roots. I know that
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  Speaker 3: with the first my debut album, I'll say because I
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  Speaker 3: put out a lot of projects, but this is my
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  Speaker 3: first studio album that I you know, just dropped, and
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  Speaker 3: I wanted it to just give me the feeling of
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  Speaker 3: what I listened to growing up, Like when I was little,
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  Speaker 3: my mom would listened to like a lot of Faith Evans,
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  Speaker 3: Kelly Price, Brownstone, Tony Braxton. And I've just been in
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  Speaker 3: that stage in my life. I think I'm at like
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  Speaker 3: the age where I kind of am starting to get
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  Speaker 3: their feelings and their thoughts and all of that. So
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  Speaker 3: it's just like okay, like I get it, this is
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  Speaker 3: where I'm at. So I wanted to show that side
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  Speaker 3: of my womanhood.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I feel like when we get older, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's like music like seventies rock shit that I used
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  Speaker 2: to hate when my parents would playing, and now I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I kind of fuck with the Eagles. Yeah, like I
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  Speaker 2: could put the if I am like high as funk.
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  Speaker 2: I want to hear some like trippy fucking seventies no.
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  Speaker 3: Facts facts I'm like listening to like Denise Williams and
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  Speaker 3: the Whispers and the stuff like because you get the lyrics,
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  Speaker 3: Oh do you get You're like, oh got it.
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  Speaker 2: So I've been in a green room with Snoop where
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  Speaker 2: he's controlling the music and it is very much like
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  Speaker 2: jumping into a time machine. It's a vibe. Yeah, what
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  Speaker 2: was it about what you were doing that kind of
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  Speaker 2: caught his attention.
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  Speaker 3: He heard a song I did call like My Weed,
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  Speaker 3: and it was very soulful, but it was hip hop
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  Speaker 3: too because I raped. So that's what I'm saying, Like
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  Speaker 3: I'm that yeah, yeah, but I'm not bars.
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  Speaker 2: You got bars.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe okay, depending on the day. That's why I say, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know what, some weed bars Yep.
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  Speaker 3: I never called myself a rapper, but I rap for sure. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and he heard he heard that soulful kind of vibe
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  Speaker 3: of like my weed where I was singing.
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  Speaker 2: And rapping in So does he reach out? Who reaches out?
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  Speaker 3: He reached out? He reached out and Instagram No, he so.
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  Speaker 3: Raphael Sadik actually ranked this Yeah, and it was like
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  Speaker 3: through a group text and he was just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm coming to see you. He came to see me, like,
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  Speaker 3: okay this week record.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, he came to the Bay.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I was out here.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you're out here?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I was out here.
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  Speaker 2: Have you do you stay out here?
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  Speaker 3: I stay out here now yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like a lot of people kind of
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  Speaker 2: come to LA because this is where you kind of
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  Speaker 2: got to chase the.
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  Speaker 3: Dream, right yeah, you know yeah yeah, and.
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  Speaker 2: Then it worked out for you, right.
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  Speaker 3: It works out. I think honestly, I wouldn't if my work,
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  Speaker 3: like literally my job is here, so if it wasn't,
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be here.
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  Speaker 2: I feel the same way. Yeah, the way they be
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  Speaker 2: in my pockets with these taxes. I'm like, man, listen,
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  Speaker 2: if I didn't have to be here, I would definitely
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  Speaker 2: be somewhere in Nevada, Florida, Houston. But just LA is
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  Speaker 2: where it's just like what we do. It's like you
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  Speaker 2: kind of got that. Yeah, it's like like everyone comes
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  Speaker 2: So when you first meet Snoop, is it like because
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  Speaker 2: I feel like Snoops. You know, there's so many people
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  Speaker 2: who like we grow up idolizing and like you'll meet
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  Speaker 2: them when you'll come in come tech with him, and like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they always say never meet your idols, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but when you meet Snoop, I feel like he just
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  Speaker 2: doesn't disappoint. Like he's Snoop Dog. He's what you see
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  Speaker 2: is what you He's like the most humble, like nicest
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  Speaker 2: cool dude.
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  Speaker 3: He's literally like what you see is what you get.
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  Speaker 3: He's exactly what I thought he would be for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how like, uh, did you guys bond on any
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  Speaker 2: of your musical tastes when you guys were talking, you
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  Speaker 2: know what?
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  Speaker 3: Kind of But it's so funny because he'd be liking
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  Speaker 3: to think he know where I'm from for real. So
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  Speaker 3: we started bonding on like he like, yeah, I used
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  Speaker 3: to be over wom I know where that's at. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, you know okay, So yeah, we really
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  Speaker 3: bonded over the bay talking about the bay.
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  Speaker 2: That's fire. Who's on your Bay Area? Mount Rushmore.
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  Speaker 3: Hip hop for R and B.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one because there's some let's go
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  Speaker 2: R and.
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  Speaker 3: B Okay, okay, Tony Tony Tony uh in Vogue okay,
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  Speaker 3: Keisha Cole of course, damn Guapola. I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 3: like between her and Letosy because let us see to
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  Speaker 3: me like that was my like person I looked at
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  Speaker 3: for sure, but guapola doo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the bass got so much mm hmm. Yeah, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Did you like when you end up getting because for
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  Speaker 2: people who don't know, you have a really big song
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  Speaker 2: at radio right now with with Anderson? Is that the
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  Speaker 2: type of record that you're you already have it's got
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  Speaker 2: on open you send it to him or you guys
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  Speaker 2: getting together? Like what is.
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  Speaker 3: The getting together? For sure?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that's the best way. I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: feels that way I wanted.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted that, you know. It was crazy because the
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  Speaker 3: album was done and they were just like, you need
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  Speaker 3: one more record and snoop he was like you need
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  Speaker 3: that record. Buzz was like you need that record. Management
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  Speaker 3: was like you.
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  Speaker 2: Need but it's missing that record.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah that up tempo just yeah, so you know that
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  Speaker 3: threw out, Uh you know Anderson ap and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, but I want to get in with him.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't want to do none of that. I want to
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  Speaker 3: get in with him. And yeah we got in. I
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  Speaker 3: told him the exact vibe I wanted because I thought
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  Speaker 3: about it the whole like I had days to think
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  Speaker 3: about what I wanted to do. And I told him,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, we need something like this, and he
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  Speaker 3: immediately was like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we did it and I did it. He's
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  Speaker 2: a a genius. He is was an alien.
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  Speaker 3: He is so sweet, so cool.
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  Speaker 2: I remember the first time I saw him, well, now,
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  Speaker 2: the first time I saw him life he was opening
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  Speaker 2: up for a Earl sweatshirt in like twenty fourteen or fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: But then and I saw him like headlined by himself.
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  Speaker 2: He was just doing the drum and ship while rapping
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  Speaker 2: the whole show, and I was like, this motherfucker is
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  Speaker 2: in shape.
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  Speaker 3: He's different like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's different. It's crazy. Is the song can't let go
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  Speaker 2: about someone? Certain? Like? Is that about a person that exists?
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  Speaker 2: Do they know it's about them when they hear it?
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure?
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  Speaker 2: So it is about someone?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my whole album. That's where I get messy. You
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  Speaker 3: ever want to know what's going on with me? So?
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  Speaker 2: Is the album inspired by multiple people? Okay, anybody hits
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: you like, yo, what what the fuck?
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: I got blocked by one because of the album. Yeah,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: I'm being messy.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: What was it about?
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: What? What? What? What? What was it? Because you know,
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: obviously you know, this happens a lot people. I mean,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: you have to draw from real life experiences and music,
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: but you never hear about like what happens with the
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: inspirations in real life, hear the music.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: He blocked me for sure. I don't think he mad
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: I see that you and it's me not you. It's
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: a couple of us. Okay, it's a couple of us.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: But you know, I think he just didn't want to
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: keep seeing me on his you know, on algorithm. Yeah,
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: so I mean he probably still has to somewhat because
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe, but I know he blocked me for sure.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: But that's okay.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: This love what's your What was there a song that
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: you were most like you kind of dove in the
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: most personally on this project that.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: You feel like, yeah if I wanted? Yeah, yes, the
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: answer is.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Guest, what's the name of it? Let's listen to it.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: How do I spell that?
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: And I are a j.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. We're gonna break it down, and we got
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: a video or visualizer, which is nice. We got a
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: couple looking at each other fining cards or cards. You
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: look miserable, Brad and say school.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Than you want, looking pitiful, sitting down.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: What you want to breaking house as much she used.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: To, Oh, judge you all it down than you all
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: the things safe freship only know you went.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Bullship take you somethings time.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Still cat sinking back, letting them down.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: You got such a dope voice.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Thank you?
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: So who inspired this song? Is it the guy who
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: blocked you? Oh? This is the guy who blocks you?
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Was like the six or four part pretty specific?
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: No, that was actually the fake part because he didn't
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: drive that, but yeah, he uh, just to make it
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: very like clear. I'm over it now for sure.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: But was the recording this mute? Because I feel like
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: that's gotta be a healing thing.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: It was. I sent it to him before. I didn't
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: just like startle.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Him just ahead something.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I gave him one and he was just like you
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: know what he always does that really kind of speechless.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: He's just like, wow, okay, that's how you felt. Wow,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: But I'm over it.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: You become a star and he's probably like fucked up?
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe are you pretty like a heavily evolt because I
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: feel like all the aesthetics whether it's the visuals, whether
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: it's the artwork. Everything is very very high level, very
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: very consistent. Are you very much like involved in all that?
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love art, I love visuals. Eventually I could
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: definitely see myself going off into film, and I, you know,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I just like, I don't know, maybe growing up how
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I grew up, we always were just like heavily into that.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Always knew people who like did some type of like videography,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: and we always wanted to put a video to our music.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Whether it went somewhere or not, we always wanted to
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: just put visual you know, perspective to it.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
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  Speaker 3: On you know what I have. We've been busy. He
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: been busy chance here, Yeah, he'd been moving around. But
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: that's a good friend of mine.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very talent. Have you been this house yet? M
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: h yeah, we've been to this cribbing a couple of times. Yeah,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: very surreal.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I'll call them my cousins because you know, I haven't
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: been there in a minute, but I'm like that.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: A few years ago, we got a hotel uh huh
• 21:45
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• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Hampton in right across the street from seven eleven.
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  Speaker 3: In America Canyon yet, oh man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's it was cool because but.
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• 22:01
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• 22:06
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  Speaker 2: We've had a couple of I have had two very
• 22:11
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• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I work with Empire for a little bit. We was
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: in Vallejo, probably more than we should have been. It
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: was a good time. But I was like when I
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: went to A Russell's house, I was like, bro, you
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: live here? Yeah, hell hella, fools are here?
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Dog, Like, are you nervous? You know what's crazy? We
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: used to be cause where that is, where the pargola is,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: is where my family. It's like three minutes away from
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: my family. So we used to walk and just talk
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: honestly about these days and about.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: The future, like what what what?
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Actually, Yeah, he used to give me a lot of advice.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: We used to just talk, you know, and now we
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: just you know, both kind of moving around.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he's kind of changing a lot of like, uh,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: you know, the idea of the possibilities of like being
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: an independent artist and absolutely ways to monetize your brand
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: that are untraditional. Absolutely what you want for a concert ticket,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: no one's ever done that way.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: He's killing it. He's killing and he said, he everything
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: he said, you know, he's doing.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: What is the biggest thing you've learned from being around
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Snoop so far.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Mmmm, I think I'll watch him and his leadership and
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: I also watch him, uh with being a leader the
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: human behind that, and I pay attention to that, you know.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: It's yeah, he's he's he's the legendary Snoop Dogg. But
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I'm blessed to witness sometimes the way he thinks and
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: in being a leader on the mic and with the
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: industry and just being a leader as a man. Right,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: So I think I pay attention to that because I
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: want to be that.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like when you see Snoop, even if
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: you're from Afar, you know, it's like I always hear
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: people be like, I'm busy, I ain't got time. I'm like,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys see like like Snoop
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Dogg isn't.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: And I tell people that you ain't because he's busy
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: and he hits me all he hit then he hit
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: is like five in the morning, five this morning.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's actually impressive. Were you because you were
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: on on the last album his album, which was a
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: very selept on project. I actually like that album more
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: than I liked the Dre album. Is it a crime? What?
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: What are you nervous getting in with Snoop.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I used to be. Now it's like more fun.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: He gets me into like a fun space, like okay, cool.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: You guys get high as like Giraffe Puss and the stew.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: We used to, we used to. I gotta slow down
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: on that.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Yah.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: I'm a singer.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, how like because you're you small? Right,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: so like is it does it affect your voice? Ever?
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: You know it's crazy. I used to smoke, so you're not.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: This is a world from your announcement. I used to smoke,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: but yeah, quit. Yeah. I do weed pills and weed tea.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Your weed pills is crazy.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: They look like a little aloy you do, I don't
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: really do. Yeah. Yeah. Edibles are dangerous, yeah, but but
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I'm very I use it like medication.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I feel like a weed pill is more like
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: you know exactly what you're eating and how much if
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: someone gives you a chocolate piece.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: I can't do that no more. It's like stone like
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: that for real. I don't been stoned for days.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: That's one thing I will never do is edibles because
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I've had the worst experience. I've I've over eight shrooms
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: and been all right over eating edibles, you'll be cooked.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: No for real, and it's like and it can be
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: like lok.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think people understand like when you eat it,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: there's something about it that makes it psychoactive. Yeah, so
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I've like had hallucinations. I've seen ship and I'd be like, dog,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: what the fuck?
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: No, for real? I cool it off the edibles, but
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: the weed pills I could do. End the tea.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: So you do weed tea? Nice? Yeah, that's great. So
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I think breaking news Jane is no longer smoking.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Yes, but I tried to hide it because people still
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: be giving me.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Weak When you first hanged Snoop, do you feel like
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: it's almost like, you know, if you were like if
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: you walked to the park and Michael Jordan was shooting
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: hoops and he was like, hey, you want to shoot
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: a ball with me? And I'd be like, of course.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy. He never he didn't smoke with
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: me in the beginning.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying, like, if Snoop's like.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: And that's what happened, of course, Yeah, I smoke with
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Snoop for sure.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: It'd be like if Willie Nelson handed you a joint,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: you'd be like, fuck, yeah, let's go. I just want
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: to be able to say I smoked with you.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah, him and Warrang G. I definitely was like
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I'm smoking with him.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Like what gee, I want to I just want to.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I want to go to Warrang G's house for like
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Fourth of July and eat his barbecue.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, his barbecue was so good. It was so funny.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: This was like soer And this was like ten years ago.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: I was out here shout out Adrian marcel I was.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: With Hey, the area fucking guy. Man, he's very talented.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we were working with Warrang G. And he
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, man, I want you all to pull
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: up on me and my tailgate. So we think and
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be like this crazy like tailgate like some
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Oakland colisem shit, and we pull up. It was like
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: out of elementary school.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: But he's barbecuing.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: It was so cute though. We were like this is lig.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm hanging out it is almost better.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: It was like, okay, this is it's cool.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like not many people in this world
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: are like cooler than stupid. When you hang out with orange,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: be like, butro, You're just a cool motherfucker bro effortlessly, like.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: You could tell why they like, you could see why
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: it was all cool.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: How long were you working on this album?
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Like a good year and a half.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Where was there any music that didn't make the cut
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: that didn't fit the theme of the project? Mm hmm yeah,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Like what was like the pool of songs you were like,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: how many songs were you kind of pulling from?
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: I didn't want it to be super long. Raphael he
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: was the one that was just like, hey, don't don't
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: have no long drawn out project. Get to the point.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: So I was like, Okay, people have short attention span
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: these days. Yeah, and you want every song to really
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: like no skips.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: We was like, you know, get to the point. I'm
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: the gull right.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: So is he also like a mentory yours? That's gotta
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: be awesome?
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I worked with him first. I worked with him for
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: like over ten years.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because Adrian was working with him, I remember, m hm,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I feel like and I.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Wrote I wrote every song with him.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: A lot of people forget like Adrian had like a
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: cool little mixtape run before he had that.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, what was that song? He had?
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Two Am? I was to say three AM, but he
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: had like some he had like a mix like a mixtape.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Era that was like some of my Like when I
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: look back on my career, I think.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: About around that time Eric Beer had his mixtapes. Yep,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: it was good.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: It was a good it was a good time.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: There was a good R and B mixtape wave coming
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: out of the West Coast that was pre cook like
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: cooking like it was a great time. Yeah. What about BJ,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: the Chicago kid, I think he is one of the
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: most underrated, underappreciated talents him. Yeah, he's incredible.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: We always talk about how we're going to do a project.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: We're going to do.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: One day a joint album.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're going to do one one day. I
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: think we again. We just I'll be moving around. He'd
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: be moving around and then life. But he was one
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: of the first artists when I moved here. He was
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: one of the first artists that just pulled up on me,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: like via Instagram, like, Yo, you're dope. I want to
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: pull up like let's work and we we did you.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: That's hard. Shout out to him, man. Yea, besides BJ,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: if you could pick anybody to do a joint.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Album with, Damn, I have to go tyl of the Creator.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, yeah, he's incredible. Did you I don't
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: know if you did you happen to go to Camp flog.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: No no not this year?
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: No so good? Yeah you know what. I came out
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: of Camp flog Naw realizing that Tyler the Creator is
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: one of the greatest performers on the planet, but the
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: greatest performer in music right now is Doci.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: She's killing it.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: When I watched Doci's performance, was a problem.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: I would love to do music with third.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I was captivated.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: She's dope.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I was. I was so like, I couldn't I was
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: tripped and I was on shrooms by the way, both
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: but for everyone's performance as a campflog now I was.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I was on shroops. But Ship had me. I was
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: just like, I don't think anybody can fuck.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: With her different.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I had after the shot just be like, hey, yo,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: that ship up there. She was that, she was different,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: She's different. It was crazy. Yeah, but Tyler is one.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I mean I think I think we always talk about
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the Big three, you know. Yeah, I'm like, Yo, Tyler's
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: in that there for me. I mean, this guy's got
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: his own festival.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and just musically like I'm still an artist to
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: my core. So yes, he's amazing. He is talented.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I think it's like it's like when you see Chromacopeia
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: and Don't Tap the Glass come out in the same
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: twelve month period. It's like that's such a range of yeah,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: high level music, but it's like artistically very different.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: He can't be fucked with for sure.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: He can't be with. Yeah, shout out to Tyler. Who
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: do you think should win Best Hip Hop Album at
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: the Grammys? We have Clips, gn X, Chroma Copia, Glowyali's album,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: and j I D got like Ugly, God loves Ugly.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Chromo Cropia because that's what got the
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: most play in my earphones. But all of those projects
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: are amazing, But I'm gonna go with Tyler. Yeah, like
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: he's I'm a fan.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I got a feeling. I don't know if anyone's beating
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Kendrick ever after the gn X year, but I'm I'm like, honestly,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: as long as it's clips, Tyler or Kendrick, I'm okay
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  Speaker 2: with it.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's gonna be And g I.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: D is incredible to ja. What's your favorite song on
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Chroma coopia. Man, I'll give you mind first take. I
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: like to take your mask off song each one. I
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: like to take a mask on each one of those verses.
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  Speaker 2: Like there's like a verse about like a mom who
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: like settled in a marriage and have kids, and I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 2: that's fucking crazy. Like the fact he was able.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: To that's probably one of mine. Yeah, I think that
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: whole project to me is one like and and you know,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I love like all of the rollouts and the big
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: shebangs with people's stuff. But when you can have an
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: album that is playable from start to finish and I
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: don't got to touch my shit, it's you know, I
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: love those type of things.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: But you know, are you already working on new music
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: or like how often are you in I'm definitely working
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: on Are you always cooking?
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah for the most part. Yeah.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Are you doing a tour stuff coming up?
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Tell me about the tour.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Stuff next year, I'm gonna do some tour stuff.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Are you gonna be going out with someone you're gonna
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: be headlining or what? Figuring it out?
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I'm figuring it out, but for sure, I'm talking about
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: my own headline tour. But I would love to go
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: on with somebody as well.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what is the coolest thing about being signed to
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: death Row Records in twenty twenty five? Because I feel
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: like Snoop's quietly putting together this awesome roster of an
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: amazing R and B. You know what I mean That
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: there's like very when we think of death Row back
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: in the day, we wouldn't think of like, yeah, some
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: of these I think the biggest artists on death Row
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: or R and B. You know.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's just dope to be a part of, uh,
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: something that was just such a staple right in music
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: period and to be able to like keep that going
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: and hold that responsibility to really keep it going. I'm
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: excited for what I do next.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: It might be this, it might not.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: You might be acting directing, Yeah, I might be tour
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: on the way.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: New album is out, go support it. Song is going crazy?
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Thank you with Anderson videos out. I'm sure you got
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: more videos coming.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, absolutely. I have a lot of visualizers out
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: for that. I have a song a visualizer for each
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: song on the album.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Just because you have a visualized does that mean you
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: want to do a full video?
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: I did some full videos. I did one for Stingy,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: I did one for Can't Let Go. Yeah, we'll see
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: what we do next.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Uh it's me, not you. Got you blocked by someone,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: but it's out now go support it. Thank you for
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: pulling up, thank you for having me there. It is
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: boom m