Latest / DISGRACELAND / Tupac Shakur and The Notorious B.I.G.: The Media Did It
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Disgraceland as a production of double Elvis.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Tubac Shakur was a bad man, insanely talented and charismatic,
- 0:18Speaker 2: but nonetheless an objectively bad man. Before his twenty fourth birthday,
- 0:24Speaker 2: Tubac Skor had been arrested for beating another rapper with
- 0:27Speaker 2: a bat, for shooting a pair of off duty cops,
- 0:30Speaker 2: and had settled out of court for the shooting death
- 0:33Speaker 2: of a six year old boy. In the mid nineties,
- 0:36Speaker 2: he'd found himself embroiled in a highly publicized rape case
- 0:40Speaker 2: that had him looking down the barrel of a long
- 0:41Speaker 2: prison sentence, and still his talent and charisma could not
- 0:46Speaker 2: be suppressed. But as he began turning out iconic appearances
- 0:50Speaker 2: in major films, his legal troubles started breaking his bank.
- 0:54Speaker 2: He was broke, and so he continued to do what
- 0:57Speaker 2: he did best, make great music. That music you heard
- 1:01Speaker 2: at the top of the show that wasn't great music.
- 1:04Speaker 2: That was a preset loop for my melotron called Bosston
- 1:07Speaker 2: Nova Moving Strings MK.
- 1:09Speaker 3: Two.
- 1:11Speaker 2: I'm playing that loop because I can't afford the rights
- 1:13Speaker 2: to I'll Make Love to You by Boys to Men,
- 1:17Speaker 2: And why would I play that slab of motown Philly cheese?
- 1:20Speaker 3: Could I afford it?
- 1:21Speaker 2: Because that was the number one song in America On
- 1:25Speaker 2: November thirtieth, nineteen ninety four, and that was the day
- 1:28Speaker 2: that Tupac Shakur was shot five times in the lobby
- 1:32Speaker 2: of Quad Studios, the day that launched the charismatic young
- 1:35Speaker 2: artist into a devastating relationship with the media, a relationship
- 1:39Speaker 2: that would prove deadly for both him and his friend
- 1:42Speaker 2: and fellow star with the notorious Big On this episode
- 1:47Speaker 2: Boston Nova, Moving Strings, Motown, Philly Cheese, Tupac Shakur, media manipulation,
- 1:53Speaker 2: and Biggie Smalls, I'm Jake Brennan and this is Disgraceland.
- 2:21Speaker 2: For a promise of seven grand in sweatpant money, Tupac
- 2:24Speaker 2: Shakor agreed to guest vocal on a forthcoming bad boy
- 2:27Speaker 2: record single by Little Sean. The recording session at Manhattan's
- 2:31Speaker 2: Squad Studios on November thirtieth, nineteen ninety four would be
- 2:35Speaker 2: the end to a very long day. Earlier, Tubac hat
- 2:39Speaker 2: appeared in court to face charges of sexual assault, and
- 2:42Speaker 2: the pending verdict was not looking good as he headed
- 2:46Speaker 2: into the studio to make some quick dough with his manager,
- 2:48Speaker 2: Freddy Moore. Brother in law Zan Turner, and friend Randy Watkins.
- 2:53Speaker 2: The smell of blood and vulnerability was.
- 2:55Speaker 3: In the air.
- 2:57Speaker 2: Tupac's street smarts had him feeling une going into the session.
- 3:02Speaker 3: It had been arranged by a street.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Dude who had been blowing up Pawk's pager all evening
- 3:06Speaker 2: making sure he'd make it.
- 3:07Speaker 3: To the studio.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Tupac was stoned and paranoid as he shuffled past the
- 3:12Speaker 2: Times Square working girls towards the studio. His paranoia eased
- 3:16Speaker 2: momentarily when Little Caesar yelled from the window and told
- 3:20Speaker 2: Pak he was on his way down. He had ceased
- 3:22Speaker 2: went way back, but then he spotted a roughneck outside
- 3:26Speaker 2: the building. Thirty ish male wearing army fatigues to Tupac,
- 3:33Speaker 2: a clear indication that this dude was from Brooklyn and
- 3:36Speaker 2: his vibe.
- 3:36Speaker 3: Was not good.
- 3:38Speaker 2: His hat was pulled down real low, and he refused
- 3:40Speaker 2: to acknowledge Tupac or as to associates as they entered
- 3:43Speaker 2: the building.
- 3:44Speaker 3: This is not normal.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Tupac was one of the biggest stars in the country.
- 3:48Speaker 2: There wasn't a black man in America who didn't acknowledge
- 3:50Speaker 2: Pak with respect, jealousy, or both, and this just didn't
- 3:54Speaker 2: feel right. And then as Tupac and his boys entered
- 3:57Speaker 2: the building, the roughneck slipped in the door behind them
- 4:00Speaker 2: and he wasn't alone. Then the dude behind the desk
- 4:03Speaker 2: and the lobby they just entered got up, and now
- 4:07Speaker 2: there were three menacing dudes.
- 4:08Speaker 3: In the building with Tupac and his boys, and they
- 4:11Speaker 3: were packing.
- 4:12Speaker 2: They came up behind pack, guns drawn, yelling for everyone
- 4:15Speaker 2: to lie on the ground, and then they told Tupac
- 4:17Speaker 2: to hand over his jewelry, and he refused and bullets flew.
- 4:21Speaker 2: Tubac was shot five times, one in the hand, two
- 4:26Speaker 2: in the head, one in the thigh, exited through the
- 4:30Speaker 2: scrotum ouch. The attackers ran Tupac's jewels, all forty grand worth,
- 4:36Speaker 2: and disappeared into Times Square. Tupac dragged himself into the
- 4:40Speaker 2: elevator and somehow made it up to the Bad Boy
- 4:42Speaker 2: recording session. The elevator doors opened into a crowded studio and,
- 4:46Speaker 2: according to Pak, slumped and bloody in the elevator silence.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Everybody in the recording session, including the notorious Big and
- 4:56Speaker 2: Sean Puff Daddy Combs, they all just stared at Tupac
- 5:00Speaker 2: and nobody moved to help him. Even though his arrival
- 5:02Speaker 2: had been much anticipated and they were all confused by
- 5:06Speaker 2: his being there. It was at this point the Tupac thought,
- 5:09Speaker 2: and maybe they were surprised to see him alive. Whatever
- 5:13Speaker 2: the reason, there'd be time for speculating later. For now,
- 5:16Speaker 2: there were more pressing matters like the bullet wounds in
- 5:19Speaker 2: Tupac's head and scrolled him. Time to act fast. First
- 5:23Speaker 2: order of business, roll a joint. Next, call your girls,
- 5:28Speaker 2: your mama, and your girlfriend in that order, then call
- 5:32Speaker 2: nine one one. But when the cops arrived, Tupac was
- 5:36Speaker 2: greeted by Officer Craig McKernan, the arresting officer in his
- 5:39Speaker 2: sexual assault case. And when the cops saw Tupac's bullet
- 5:43Speaker 2: riddled groin, he greeted him with a smart ass, how's
- 5:45Speaker 2: it hanging, Tupac? The media reaction the next day was varied.
- 5:51Speaker 2: The tabloids reacted true to form. The New York Daily
- 5:54Speaker 2: News gave a nuanced take, scrawling rapper Tupac shot in
- 5:58Speaker 2: the head across its cover. A little known at the
- 6:01Speaker 2: time business writer named Malcolm Gladwell grabbed the byline at
- 6:05Speaker 2: The Washington Post in the middle of laboring through his
- 6:08Speaker 2: ten thousand hours of experience, and inside his article there
- 6:11Speaker 2: was a particular quote of interest from Tupac's attorney. It
- 6:15Speaker 2: reads like a quote from fictional Seinfeld attorney and Johnny
- 6:19Speaker 2: Cochran parody Jackie Chiles. My instincts tell me that this
- 6:23Speaker 2: looks like a setup, smells like a setup, and feels
- 6:26Speaker 2: like a setup. The seeds of a beef were being sown,
- 6:30Speaker 2: and the media was just beginning to smell a story,
- 6:34Speaker 2: but the bombshell expose was yet to come. After the shooting,
- 6:39Speaker 2: Tupac checked himself out of the hospital to appear in
- 6:42Speaker 2: court for sentencing, sitting in a wheelchair. He accepted his
- 6:46Speaker 2: four year prison sentence four months later. From behind bars
- 6:50Speaker 2: in Riker's Island prison, he gave Vibe magazine writer Kevin
- 6:54Speaker 2: Powell his account of the Quad Studio shooting, and it
- 6:57Speaker 2: was filled with innuendo, celebrity and drama. And about the
- 7:02Speaker 2: scene after being shot, he said, when we got upstairs,
- 7:05Speaker 2: I looked around and it scared the shit out of
- 7:08Speaker 2: me because Puffy was there, Biggie's there.
- 7:10Speaker 3: There was about forty dudes there.
- 7:12Speaker 2: All of them had jewels on, more jewels than me,
- 7:15Speaker 2: and this made me know it wasn't a robbery attempt.
- 7:18Speaker 2: The money was upstairs. Everybody was like real standoffish. Puffy
- 7:23Speaker 2: was standing back. I knew Puffy and about the street
- 7:26Speaker 2: dude who set up the session. Tupac recounted, he had
- 7:30Speaker 2: this look on his face like he was surprised to
- 7:32Speaker 2: see me. If he expected me, why was he surprised
- 7:35Speaker 2: to see me. I just beat the buzzer and said
- 7:38Speaker 2: I was coming upstairs. I was like, you're gonna have
- 7:41Speaker 2: to explain to me when I come out of the hospital,
- 7:43Speaker 2: why you set me up.
- 7:45Speaker 3: The media now had their story shit was on.
- 8:05Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety five, The Source was, as they say,
- 8:09Speaker 2: the shit to a young hip hop artist. Being on
- 8:12Speaker 2: the cover of The Source was bigger than being on
- 8:14Speaker 2: the cover of Rolling Stone. But another hip hop magazine
- 8:18Speaker 2: was making a name for itself. Famed record producer Quincy
- 8:22Speaker 2: Jones launched Vibe magazine as a direct challenge to the
- 8:25Speaker 2: Source's dominance. His vision was to devote each cover to
- 8:30Speaker 2: the black stars who had the power to transcend black culture,
- 8:34Speaker 2: to use the power of hip hop to go beyond
- 8:36Speaker 2: hip hop. Fuck Rolling Stone and the hell with having
- 8:39Speaker 2: your culture appropriated by the mainstream for Vibe, this is
- 8:43Speaker 2: about defining the mainstream and vibes. Riker's interview with Tupac
- 8:48Speaker 2: set the parameters for what would become the year's biggest
- 8:51Speaker 2: mainstream drama. The nineteen ninety five Source Awards may have
- 8:55Speaker 2: become infamous as the event that publicly served up the
- 8:58Speaker 2: famous East Coast West Coast beef, but Tupac's interview with
- 9:02Speaker 2: Vibe from earlier that year set the table, and when
- 9:06Speaker 2: the award show rolled around in August, Tupac was still
- 9:09Speaker 2: in jail, but his thinly veiled accusations from that interview
- 9:12Speaker 2: hung heavy in the air.
- 9:15Speaker 3: Madison Square Garden was.
- 9:17Speaker 2: Packed with a who's who of hip hop LA's death
- 9:20Speaker 2: row records. At the time, the biggest moneymakers in rap
- 9:24Speaker 2: rolled deep with the genius doctor Dre, his chart topping
- 9:28Speaker 2: protege Snoop Doggie Dog, and their super intimidating label Boss
- 9:32Speaker 2: should Night. The rumors about Knight were legend he freed
- 9:37Speaker 2: Dre from his previous recording contract with negotiating skills that
- 9:41Speaker 2: were more Crenshaw on El Segundo than Wharton in HBS,
- 9:45Speaker 2: and supposedly part of Knight's fortune was made from hanging
- 9:49Speaker 2: Vanilla Ice out of a ten story office building until
- 9:52Speaker 2: he agreed to sign over his royalties from his hit
- 9:55Speaker 2: song Ice Ice Baby, Truth or Legend. Everyone agreed that
- 10:00Speaker 2: Suge Knight was not to be messed with, not even
- 10:03Speaker 2: on the East Coast, and Brooklyn was in the house,
- 10:07Speaker 2: repped by the notorious Big riding high on the success
- 10:11Speaker 2: of his debut Ready to Die, released a few months
- 10:14Speaker 2: prior on Bad Boy Records, Harlem Mogul on the make.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Sean Combe's aka Puff Daddy was the brains behind Bad Boy,
- 10:23Speaker 2: which was selling tons of records and threatening death Row's
- 10:26Speaker 2: supremacy to market the label and himself. Puffy was in
- 10:31Speaker 2: constant promo mode, touring with artists, hyping them on stage,
- 10:36Speaker 2: appearing in their videos, and just generally using his own
- 10:39Speaker 2: charisma to sell his musicians and this record label. Dude
- 10:43Speaker 2: in the Spotlight thing was working out of the Spotlight
- 10:47Speaker 2: that night. Death Row was well wrapped with fifty West
- 10:50Speaker 2: Coast dudes, family friends, artists, label execs, bodyguards, some in red,
- 10:57Speaker 2: some in blue, and also in the crowd rappers from
- 11:02Speaker 2: Queen's Staten Island and Harlem, every part of New York
- 11:06Speaker 2: City and beyond Jersey even the Dirty South people in
- 11:11Speaker 2: the room later said the rivalry between the Borrows and
- 11:13Speaker 2: different factions was palpable. Everyone knew there was going to
- 11:17Speaker 2: be some bullshit and the volatility in the air that
- 11:19Speaker 2: he could feel it anticipation, excitement, tension. And then Suge
- 11:28Speaker 2: Knight took the stage wearing blood red to accept the
- 11:32Speaker 2: award for Best Soundtrack for the film Above the Rim.
- 11:36Speaker 2: First he thanked death Row, and then he had a
- 11:38Speaker 2: message for Tupac.
- 11:40Speaker 3: I'd like to tell Tupac to keep his guards up.
- 11:43Speaker 2: We riding with him, and then sug up Tupac's riker's ante.
- 11:48Speaker 2: He dissed Puffy Hard, a comment that was meant not
- 11:51Speaker 2: to accuse, but to demean, to antagonize any.
- 11:55Speaker 3: Artists that want to be an artist.
- 11:57Speaker 2: I want to stay a star and don't have the
- 11:59Speaker 2: warorry about executive producers trying to be all in the videos,
- 12:04Speaker 2: all on record dancing come to death Row. The reaction
- 12:11Speaker 2: was loud, booze and sheers, but mainly booze. Snoop raised
- 12:16Speaker 2: up out of his seat, turned back to the booing
- 12:18Speaker 2: crowd and began shouting in supporter shug. All of a sudden,
- 12:22Speaker 2: things went from tense to dangerous, real gangster shit. Sug
- 12:27Speaker 2: was talking about Puppy, a West Coast dude disrespecting an
- 12:31Speaker 2: East Coast dude in his hometown, and.
- 12:34Speaker 3: In effect, the discs instantly bonded the New Yorkers in
- 12:37Speaker 3: the room. Fucked the West Coast, fuck should Knight, fuck
- 12:42Speaker 3: death Row.
- 12:49Speaker 2: Sug and his entourage made it out of New York
- 12:51Speaker 2: without further incident, but the beef they made back at
- 12:54Speaker 2: the gardens cemented the source as the hip hop journal
- 12:57Speaker 2: of record and gave the media at the kerosene it
- 13:01Speaker 2: needed for the low burning flame Tupac ignited in his
- 13:04Speaker 2: Vibe interview a few months earlier, East Coast West Coast
- 13:08Speaker 2: was now a thing. The battle lines were drawn and
- 13:12Speaker 2: the media embedded themselves among the MC's in the front lines.
- 13:15Speaker 2: And soon shots literally will be fired.
- 13:21Speaker 3: We'll be right back after this word word word.
- 13:26Speaker 2: In retrospect, ViBe's interview with Tupac looked prescient. After all,
- 13:32Speaker 2: what was with biggie single who Shot You? If the
- 13:35Speaker 2: title of the song who Shot You didn't say at all?
- 13:39Speaker 2: Then its released a mere month after the bullet ripped
- 13:41Speaker 2: through Tupac's thigh and exited his scrotum cemented in Pock's
- 13:45Speaker 2: mind that Big and Puff were behind the quad shooting,
- 13:50Speaker 2: and the media was more than happy to report on
- 13:52Speaker 2: the speculation. Tupac told Vibe that even if that song
- 13:56Speaker 2: ain't about me, you should be like, I'm not putting
- 13:59Speaker 2: it out because he might think it's about me. Big
- 14:02Speaker 2: and Puffy, in their own interview with Vibe, asserted that
- 14:04Speaker 2: the song was written months earlier, originally as a track
- 14:08Speaker 2: for Mary J. Blige, but being too violent, it ended
- 14:11Speaker 2: up on the B side of Big Papa. Vibe magazine
- 14:15Speaker 2: was now arbitrating the juvenile beef within its pages, not
- 14:19Speaker 2: exactly what Q had in mind, but there were too
- 14:22Speaker 2: many people who wanted to read about it and too
- 14:24Speaker 2: many magazines to sell. Then, sug Knight posted one point
- 14:29Speaker 2: four million dollars bail to spring Tupac from Rikers, and
- 14:32Speaker 2: in exchange, Tupac signed over his recording rights to death
- 14:36Speaker 2: Row Records.
- 14:37Speaker 3: The beef went to eleven.
- 14:39Speaker 2: Coverage of Tupac's released from prison and newly minted death
- 14:43Speaker 2: Row affiliation extended beyond the hip hop press. The New
- 14:47Speaker 2: York Daily News ran the charmingly innocent headline jailed rapper
- 14:51Speaker 2: goes free as pals make one point four million dollars
- 14:54Speaker 2: in bail. The La Times embedded themselves in the studio
- 14:58Speaker 2: with Tupac days after release and coaxed out some hysterical
- 15:02Speaker 2: nuggets about his jail life. He watched Jay Leno, listened
- 15:06Speaker 2: to Russian Limbaugh, corresponded with Tony Danza. But these puff
- 15:11Speaker 2: pieces wouldn't last out on bail. Fresh out of Jail
- 15:16Speaker 2: and California Dreaming, Tupac wax poetic on the set of
- 15:20Speaker 2: the video shoot for the Doctor dre produced California Love.
- 15:25Speaker 2: The single took a sample from Joe Cocker's Woman to Woman,
- 15:29Speaker 2: Beyond the Thunderdome and Back, but the hair on this
- 15:32Speaker 2: dog was Tupac's blistering vocals send up of West Coast dominance.
- 15:37Speaker 2: Hip hop fans loved it a killer single, but another
- 15:41Speaker 2: single Tupac's Hit Him Up, would shot a personal light
- 15:45Speaker 2: on Pak's new West Coast lifestyle. It was a scathing
- 15:49Speaker 2: response to who shot You. In the lyrics, pawc ovisceraates
- 15:53Speaker 2: Biggie claiming to have slept with BIG's wife, Faith Evans
- 15:57Speaker 2: and threatens retaliation for the quad shooting. To paraphrase the
- 16:02Speaker 2: Texas poet. The beef was bad, and nationwide after Hit
- 16:08Speaker 2: them Up, rappers began to outwardly align themselves with their coasts.
- 16:12Speaker 2: Tupac took every opportunity imaginable to align himself for this
- 16:16Speaker 2: new West Coast brethren and to take shots at the
- 16:19Speaker 2: East Coast. The media covered it with bated breath, and
- 16:23Speaker 2: each new story seemed to beget another diss mainly from Tupac,
- 16:28Speaker 2: and the newspapers and magazines continued to fly off the racks.
- 16:32Speaker 2: In morning radio jocks added another level of insanity as
- 16:36Speaker 2: they talked about the drama on air, and record sales
- 16:39Speaker 2: soared a win win, right wrong. Biggie and Puff never
- 16:46Speaker 2: took the beef as seriously as Tupac and Sugar did.
- 16:50Speaker 2: They went out of their way to try and squash it,
- 16:52Speaker 2: and in September nineteen ninety six, Vibe cover story salaciously
- 16:57Speaker 2: and some would say regrettably, titled East Versus West Biggie
- 17:01Speaker 2: and Puffy break their Silence. They both earnestly defended themselves
- 17:05Speaker 2: against accusations that they had anything to do with the
- 17:08Speaker 2: quad shooting, but it was too late. Hit him up
- 17:12Speaker 2: across the line. East Coast Dudes, were turned up. In
- 17:16Speaker 2: the same article, vibelated on Thick stating from the Atlantic
- 17:21Speaker 2: to the Pacific, hip hop heads are proclaiming their California
- 17:25Speaker 2: love or exclaiming that the East is in the house
- 17:28Speaker 2: with the loyalty of newly initiated gang members. The story
- 17:32Speaker 2: then went on to quote doctor Dre with very little context,
- 17:36Speaker 2: as having said, pretty soon dudes from the East Coast
- 17:39Speaker 2: ain't going to be able to come out here and
- 17:40Speaker 2: be safe, and vice versa. Something had to give, and
- 17:45Speaker 2: something did. On September seventh, nineteen ninety six, in Las Vegas, Nevada,
- 17:51Speaker 2: after Mike Tyson knocked out Bruce Selden under a minute twenty,
- 17:55Speaker 2: Tupac sat in the passenger seat of Shugs BMW at
- 17:58Speaker 2: the corner of East Flemis Go Road in Cova Lane.
- 18:02Speaker 2: His Shug was at the wheel. Two girls in the
- 18:05Speaker 2: car next to them grabbed Tupac's attention. Then from out
- 18:08Speaker 2: of nowhere, a late model Cadillac rolled up along the
- 18:12Speaker 2: passenger side of the BMW inside four men two blocks.
- 18:18Speaker 2: Then countless bullets fired, one in Tupac's arm, one and
- 18:23Speaker 2: Tupacs die, two in his chest, the one in his
- 18:26Speaker 2: right lung the kill shot. Tupac Shakord died in a
- 18:33Speaker 2: hospital bed six days later. The reaction in the press
- 18:37Speaker 2: was both mournful and tasteless, with his family and fans
- 18:41Speaker 2: still grieving, The Philadelphia Daily News ran Tupac's picture on
- 18:45Speaker 2: the cover under a headline that just said it's a wrap.
- 19:05Speaker 2: According to Faith Evans, Biggie cried when he heard Tupac died.
- 19:09Speaker 2: In interviews after Tupac's passing, Biggie seems more shocked than saddened,
- 19:15Speaker 2: an important distinction, but you almost can't blame him. The
- 19:19Speaker 2: whole country was shocked and quote unquote gangster rap in
- 19:23Speaker 2: the death of one of its biggest stars was being
- 19:26Speaker 2: covered like a national epidemic, with a strange mix of
- 19:30Speaker 2: caution and cultural voyeurism. Before his death, the New York
- 19:35Speaker 2: Times Sunday magazine featured Tupac on its cover alongside Suge
- 19:39Speaker 2: Knight and Snoop, next to the headline, do you know
- 19:42Speaker 2: whose music your children are listening to? In defense of
- 19:47Speaker 2: the media, Tupac, Shook, and even Biggie to an extent,
- 19:51Speaker 2: all played their respective parts in the saga. The media
- 19:55Speaker 2: was just there to do what the media does. Tell
- 19:58Speaker 2: the story and se newspapers, magazines, and advertisements. The difference
- 20:04Speaker 2: here being that this story was too good to temper.
- 20:08Speaker 2: It was too easy to get taken in by, too
- 20:11Speaker 2: easy to slide a headline over the line from responsible
- 20:14Speaker 2: journalism to scandal. Rag and Tupac especially seemed to relish
- 20:19Speaker 2: in living up to the thug life caricature of himself
- 20:22Speaker 2: that the media couldn't get enough of. Cameras followed him everywhere,
- 20:26Speaker 2: and he left a trail of ink behind him wherever
- 20:28Speaker 2: he went. After he died, things felt unsettled, like there
- 20:34Speaker 2: was another shoe to drop, and like any good movie,
- 20:37Speaker 2: just when you think the madness is over, something happens
- 20:41Speaker 2: in the final five minutes to prove to you that
- 20:43Speaker 2: you're getting your money's worth.
- 20:45Speaker 3: And this something was.
- 20:46Speaker 2: Unfortunately, the death of the arguably more talented of the
- 20:50Speaker 2: two feuding rap stars than Notorious Big. On March ninth,
- 20:55Speaker 2: nineteen ninety seven, Biggie Small's was gunned down outside of
- 20:59Speaker 2: a Vibe magazine party while on a West Coast promo
- 21:02Speaker 2: tour for his upcoming album, aptly named Life After Death.
- 21:07Speaker 2: You can't make this shit up. Despite the enormous amount
- 21:10Speaker 2: of press the murders received, neither would ever be solved.
- 21:14Speaker 2: I have my own opinion of who is to blame
- 21:16Speaker 2: for the murders, and I believe that most anyone who
- 21:19Speaker 2: was involved with either artist knows who killed them. But
- 21:22Speaker 2: this episode isn't a who done it? It's a holy
- 21:26Speaker 2: shit look at the way these guys willingly played the
- 21:28Speaker 2: roles the media wanted them to play to deadly results episode.
- 21:33Speaker 2: Tupac and Biggie had to have known where this is
- 21:35Speaker 2: all going. How could they not have felt the hate
- 21:38Speaker 2: rising on each coast. They read their own press, and
- 21:41Speaker 2: they knew the media would swallow every bit of beef
- 21:43Speaker 2: and spit it back out all over the front pages,
- 21:46Speaker 2: the TV screens, and the airwaves. We know celebrities are
- 21:50Speaker 2: a different breed. We know that rock stars and hip
- 21:52Speaker 2: hop stars do some of the most insane shit, and
- 21:55Speaker 2: they often surround themselves with lunatics and criminals. They live
- 21:59Speaker 2: in a state of suspended adolescence. So yes, Tupac and
- 22:03Speaker 2: Biggie continuously upping the animosity toward each other while living
- 22:08Speaker 2: and working among stone cold gangsters is one of the
- 22:11Speaker 2: dumbest moves any two stars have ever made. But if
- 22:16Speaker 2: you weigh out the amount of shit talked by Tupac
- 22:18Speaker 2: and Bigie, it doesn't measure up to the amount of
- 22:21Speaker 2: shit talk the media covered and covered and covered. They
- 22:25Speaker 2: couldn't get enough. The story had everything celebrity, crime, violence, infidelity,
- 22:31Speaker 2: and finally murder, and the media amplified the hype one
- 22:36Speaker 2: thousand percent. This story is really about the media being
- 22:40Speaker 2: incapable of resisting a too good to be true drama.
- 22:43Speaker 2: I had Tupac or Biggie been a little older, a
- 22:46Speaker 2: little wiser, maybe a little less hungry for the spotlight,
- 22:50Speaker 2: or a little less under the influence of their sales
- 22:53Speaker 2: driven record.
- 22:53Speaker 3: Company handlers, maybe.
- 22:56Speaker 2: Maybe they would have been able to put a lid
- 22:57Speaker 2: on the media's efforts to drive the narrative and in
- 23:00Speaker 2: effect de escalate the tension and ultimately save their own lives.
- 23:07Speaker 2: But that didn't happen, and now both are sadly gone.
- 23:12Speaker 2: I'm Jake Brennan and this is Disgraceland. Disgraceland was created
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