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Coastal California UFO Contact Cluster: Five True Cases · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, my name is Preston Dennett and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. I call
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Speaker 1: this episode Coastal California UFO Contact Cluster, Five True Cases.
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Speaker 1: Each UFO encounter provides another piece of the puzzle to
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Speaker 1: solving the UFO mystery and helps us understand the ET
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Speaker 1: presence on our planet. And in this episode, I'd like
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Speaker 1: to present to you five cases which I think contain
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Speaker 1: some very unusual and in some cases unique elements, which
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Speaker 1: provide some interesting insights into UFOs and extraterrestrials. And what
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Speaker 1: I find particularly interesting about these cases is that they
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Speaker 1: all took place within a very small radius of each
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Speaker 1: other and very nearly the same location. I chose these
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Speaker 1: five out of well over 150 encounters, so I hope
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Speaker 1: you'll find it interesting And let's just get started. And
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Speaker 1: the first case I'd like to talk about, I call
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Speaker 1: walkie-talkie UFOs, Paul Allion's encounters. Paul Allion is an attorney
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Speaker 1: based in Southern California. And as a young boy, he
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Speaker 1: had a very interesting encounter outside his home in Palos Verdes.
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Speaker 1: This was in December of 1968. He went outside one
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Speaker 1: evening and saw a strange string of lights hovering over
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Speaker 1: the ocean not too far from his home. And I'll
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Speaker 1: just let Paul describe in his own words what happened.
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Speaker 1: As Paul says, At first, I thought it was a
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Speaker 1: helicopter with a perfectly straight string of Christmas lights on
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Speaker 1: the bottom because the lights were green, red, and white.
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Speaker 1: But it wasn't moving like any flying object I had seen.
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Speaker 1: It just hovered. And while it was hovering, it very
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Speaker 1: slowly started to tilt from a perfectly horizontal position to
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Speaker 1: an angle, but very slowly, and while continuing to hover
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Speaker 1: in one place. I really, to this day, can't tell
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Speaker 1: you what it was. It's nothing I've ever seen before
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Speaker 1: or since. So as he was watching it, the tilt
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Speaker 1: was so severe that it was clear to him that
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Speaker 1: this was not a normal aircraft. Paul rushed inside his
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Speaker 1: home and grabbed his new walkie-talkies that he had received
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Speaker 1: as a Christmas gift. And he thought to himself, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to try to talk to this thing, thinking like
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Speaker 1: a kid. And to his shock, he actually intercepted what
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Speaker 1: he believes is a ship-to-shore transmission and could actually hear
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Speaker 1: them talking about this sighting. He could see a ship
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Speaker 1: floating out in the water very close to these lights,
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Speaker 1: and it appeared that he was picking up the transmission
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Speaker 1: from this ship. And he heard a voice, a male voice,
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Speaker 1: clearly say, I don't know what the hell that is.
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Speaker 1: It's about 200 yards off my bow, and it's starting
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Speaker 1: to tilt. And it was clear to Paul that whoever
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Speaker 1: was talking was clearly as excited and amazed as he was.
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Speaker 1: So he's freaking out. He rushed inside to get his dad,
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Speaker 1: and by the time they got back outside, this object
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Speaker 1: was gone. The very next day, Paul received vindication when
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Speaker 1: the evening news came on and started talking about, quote,
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Speaker 1: strange lights over the water. Evidently, the station was flooded
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Speaker 1: with calls, and the news actually sort of debunked the
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Speaker 1: sighting and blamed it on two college kids setting off
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Speaker 1: weather balloons. Even at that age, Paul knew that this
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Speaker 1: was a ridiculous explanation. It didn't even come close to
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Speaker 1: matching what he saw. And as he says, to me,
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Speaker 1: that confirmed what I saw as being a legitimate anomaly.
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Speaker 1: So years later, Paul did appear on UFO History Channel's
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Speaker 1: UFO Hunters show, to describe his sighting, and he searched
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Speaker 1: for confirmation going back into newspaper reports, but was not
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Speaker 1: able to find any confirmation. However, as he says, Anyway,
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Speaker 1: there is my one and only encounter with a UFO,
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Speaker 1: but I can assure you it was very real. So
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Speaker 1: this is an interesting sighting in a number of ways.
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Speaker 1: It's one of many in this one area. Also, it
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Speaker 1: was apparently very widely viewed, not only by whoever was
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Speaker 1: on this ship, but by many people presumably along the shore,
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Speaker 1: because the news allegedly received a bunch of calls, and
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Speaker 1: yet they provided a debunking explanation. I think this just
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Speaker 1: goes to show that there is, in fact, a UFO cover-up,
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Speaker 1: There's still ridicule at that time, certainly, surrounding this subject,
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Speaker 1: and it wasn't being taken seriously or treated objectively. At
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Speaker 1: any rate, it's a pretty interesting sighting, and that's why
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Speaker 1: I wanted to share it with you. And the next
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Speaker 1: case I'd like to talk about I call The UFO
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Speaker 1: Followed Us, George Gray's Encounter. George Gray is a pseudonym.
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Speaker 1: He does not want his name used. He's an employee
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Speaker 1: in the movie business, and in fact worked on the
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Speaker 1: movies Star Trek, The Motion Picture, and other Star Trek movies.
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Speaker 1: His encounter occurred in Santa Monica, and it was the
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Speaker 1: week after Easter in 1975. George was driving alone in
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Speaker 1: his car along the Santa Monica Freeway, the 10 freeway
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Speaker 1: heading west. Behind him, in convoy, his sister was driving
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Speaker 1: along with her boyfriend George had recently moved into the
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Speaker 1: area and was transporting his stuff and looking out over
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Speaker 1: the ocean while still driving on the freeway he saw
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Speaker 1: a very unusual object and I will just let George
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Speaker 1: describe in his own words what he saw and what
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Speaker 1: happened as George says I thought at first it was
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Speaker 1: a helicopter because helicopters have spotlights you know it was
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Speaker 1: over the ocean But all of a sudden, I noticed
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Speaker 1: that the light just zoomed towards Palos Verdes at a
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Speaker 1: tremendous rate of speed and then zoomed right back. That
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Speaker 1: blew me away. I thought, wait a minute. This is
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Speaker 1: just moving too fast. And then I noticed when it stopped,
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Speaker 1: it sent down a beam of light. I know helicopters
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Speaker 1: have spotlights, but this was an incredibly different type of light.
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Speaker 1: It was like a cylinder of light actually being lowered down,
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Speaker 1: like a cylinder. I have never seen light do that before.
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Speaker 1: Most light will scatter. This stayed completely uniform, like a
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Speaker 1: cylinder would be lowered down. And the light was a brilliant,
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Speaker 1: bluish-green light. I could see the beach where the wet
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Speaker 1: sand was because it illuminated it. And within this cylinder
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Speaker 1: of light, it would send even smaller cylinders of light
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Speaker 1: within it. And those were even brilliant, like a yellow,
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Speaker 1: lime green, and an orange cylinder, also within this other cylinder.
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Speaker 1: I was seeing this, and I said, whoa. I knew
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Speaker 1: right then and there I was witnessing a UFO. As
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Speaker 1: it turns out, George is very familiar with aircraft. His
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Speaker 1: father worked on the Apollo moon missions. George himself was
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Speaker 1: a huge astronomy buff and an aircraft enthusiast, and he
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Speaker 1: knew what he was seeing was unusual. not only because
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Speaker 1: of the way it darted across the sky, but this
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Speaker 1: unusual beam of light that it was sending down. So
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Speaker 1: he began sending thoughts of love to this object, trying
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Speaker 1: to sort of make telepathic contact with it. He also
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Speaker 1: slowed down, honked his horn, and pointed out this object
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Speaker 1: to his sister and her boyfriend. At this point, they
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Speaker 1: were very close to the beach, and they went through
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Speaker 1: the McClure Tunnel, which leads from Santa Monica to the
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Speaker 1: Pacific Coast Highway. And as he drove through the McClure
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Speaker 1: Tunnel and reached the beach, he could see the UFO
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Speaker 1: was still there, and he and his sister quickly pulled
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Speaker 1: over and got out of their car. And as George says,
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Speaker 1: and I quote, we pulled over and the UFO followed us.
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Speaker 1: I jumped out of the van and I started walking
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Speaker 1: towards it. The UFO was over where the beach was,
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Speaker 1: where the wet sand was, hovering maybe 100 to 200
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Speaker 1: feet in the air. It was silver. It was your
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Speaker 1: basic UFO, like two saucer shapes. It was a light
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Speaker 1: at first because it was still dark, but when we
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Speaker 1: finally got there, the sun had started to come up.
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Speaker 1: It was definitely completely metallic with a silver dome on
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Speaker 1: top and a silver dome on the bottom of it,
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Speaker 1: like two plates put together. It had little lights around it.
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Speaker 1: It was really something to see. Maybe 100 feet across?
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Speaker 1: It was a relatively big craft, and it was completely metallic.
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Speaker 1: Definitely a silver metallic object and shiny. And once the
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Speaker 1: sun was breaking through, you could really see it was
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Speaker 1: beautifully buffed, almost like a liquid mirror, like mercury metallic.
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Speaker 1: It was highly buffed. So as he's watching it send
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Speaker 1: down this beam of light onto the beach, it actually
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Speaker 1: scared away a flock of seagulls. George was very much
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Speaker 1: drawn to it and was continuing to make telepathic contact
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Speaker 1: with it. And in fact, he felt that he was
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Speaker 1: successful and that it knew he was there and watching it.
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Speaker 1: As he says, and I quote, I really believe that
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Speaker 1: it came back when I started to use communication, telepathy,
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Speaker 1: because it came back, and when I pulled over, it
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Speaker 1: was there. It hovered there, and it acknowledged that we
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Speaker 1: were there. But then it just took off straight up.
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Speaker 1: We could see it. It didn't just disappear. It went, shoo,
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Speaker 1: and it was gone. It just took off. So what's
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Speaker 1: interesting to me about this case is the whole telepathic
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Speaker 1: contact aspect of it. This is something I hear quite often,
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Speaker 1: and Telepathy occurs not only when people have an on-board experience,
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Speaker 1: but with sightings as well. And another really interesting aspect
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Speaker 1: about this is how George describes this beam of light
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Speaker 1: coming down out of the craft, moving slowly, like a cylinder.
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Speaker 1: It didn't obey the inverse square law of light, which
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Speaker 1: causes light scattering. Instead, this was a very narrow beam,
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Speaker 1: and it moved slowly down. So this was a very
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Speaker 1: opaque beam of light, coherent light, thick that you could
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Speaker 1: not see through it with these multicolored aspects to it.
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Speaker 1: Clearly not normal light. So why was it sending down
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Speaker 1: this beam of light? Was this a little display for George?
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Speaker 1: I think very possibly it was. And it was its
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Speaker 1: way of saying hello. I'm purely speculating here. but it's
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Speaker 1: a very interesting case nevertheless. And the next case I'd
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Speaker 1: like to present to you, I call We Had No
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Speaker 1: Idea What It Was, Donald and Bonnie's Encounter. This occurred
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Speaker 1: in the summer of 1980 in the same general area
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Speaker 1: in Santa Monica, just a few miles from the beach.
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Speaker 1: Bonnie and Donald have two children, And they were drawn
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Speaker 1: outside when they saw this very strange object hovering quite
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Speaker 1: high in the sky. And in fact, they were not
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Speaker 1: the only ones who saw it. Their neighbors saw it
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Speaker 1: as well. So there was a group of about six
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Speaker 1: people watching this object. And I'll just let Bonnie describe
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Speaker 1: what they were looking at. As Bonnie says, We all
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Speaker 1: came outside and looked at it. My husband saw it.
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Speaker 1: and my other two kids saw it, and it was
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Speaker 1: absolutely quiet, and it was just hovering. It wasn't a
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Speaker 1: helicopter or anything, because there was no noise. It was
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Speaker 1: a red light, and it was the shape of a
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Speaker 1: half pie pan, like a half circle, and it was red.
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Speaker 1: It was out there long enough that the next door
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Speaker 1: neighbors came out and looked at it too. We got
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Speaker 1: the binoculars out. We had no idea what it was.
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Speaker 1: We just kept saying, What on earth could it possibly
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Speaker 1: be if there's no noise and it's just hovering? We
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Speaker 1: don't know how far away it was. I know that
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Speaker 1: it's never been up there before or since. It did
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Speaker 1: kind of move around a little bit from side to side,
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Speaker 1: but mainly it just hovered. Bonnie's husband Donald also confirmed
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Speaker 1: these details, also looked at this object through the binoculars,
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Speaker 1: and as Donald says, We just don't know what it was,
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Speaker 1: which I guess is what a UFO is. But we
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Speaker 1: went outside and looked up in the sky. I don't
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Speaker 1: remember who saw it first, but it appeared to be stationary,
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Speaker 1: and we watched it for the longest time. Got out
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Speaker 1: the binoculars. I can't tell you how high it was.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't a plane. It stayed in the same place,
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Speaker 1: and it was a lot brighter than anything else around.
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Speaker 1: After about 15 minutes, this object departed. Bonnie and Donald
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Speaker 1: are not sure if it just winked out and disappeared
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Speaker 1: or if it zoomed off really fast. As Bonnie says,
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Speaker 1: it was just gone. It just went away. And while
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Speaker 1: this is a simple sighting, it does have some very
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Speaker 1: interesting aspects to it. It had a very weird shape. Also,
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Speaker 1: the way Bonnie and Donald described it, being stationary in
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Speaker 1: the sky, it wasn't completely stationary. It wobbled a little bit,
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Speaker 1: moving back and forth. This is a detail that does
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Speaker 1: turn up in many UFO accounts and I think shows
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Speaker 1: how these objects are powered or maneuvering using the magnetic
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Speaker 1: fields of our planet, which are not completely stable. So UFOs,
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Speaker 1: as a general rule, will sort of wobble and waver
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Speaker 1: a little bit. Another very interesting aspect of this case
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Speaker 1: is that they were able to use binoculars to get
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Speaker 1: a close-up view of it and still were not able
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Speaker 1: to identify it. And they never saw anything before or since.
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Speaker 1: And the fact that this thing moved away so fast
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Speaker 1: is another clue that this remains unidentified. not to mention
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Speaker 1: also the fact that it made no noise. And there
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Speaker 1: is a very interesting and I think significant end note
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Speaker 1: to this case. It was two days later that Bonnie's parents,
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Speaker 1: who lived in the neighboring suburb of Mar Vista, just
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Speaker 1: a short distance away, saw what appears to be the
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Speaker 1: same exact craft. And as Bonnie says, my parents live
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Speaker 1: five miles away from me. They saw the same thing.
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Speaker 1: And their neighbors went out and looked at it, and
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Speaker 1: nobody knew what it was. It was unidentified. It was
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Speaker 1: described just like our red thing, like red lights. So
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Speaker 1: is this coincidence? Is this pure synchronicity? Very hard to say,
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Speaker 1: but honestly, I don't think so. I mean, what are
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Speaker 1: the chances that her parents would have the same exact
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Speaker 1: sighting two days later? and also have their neighbors come out.
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Speaker 1: It's a very interesting coincidence at the least and I
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Speaker 1: really wonder if this UFO was showing itself on purpose
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Speaker 1: and sort of again announcing its presence like they often do.
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Speaker 1: It's an interesting case and this next case that I'd
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Speaker 1: like to present also has some of these same similar
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Speaker 1: and very interesting details. I call this next case We
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Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. Toshi Inoue's encounter. This occurred
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Speaker 1: in the summer of 1980 in the same place, although
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Speaker 1: slightly off the coast this time. Toshi Inoue is a
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Speaker 1: pilot and flight instructor. This occurred in the summer of 1980,
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Speaker 1: and Toshi was flying with a student over Santa Monica Bay.
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Speaker 1: He was basically teaching the student how to fly and
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Speaker 1: showing him instrumentation and all of this. They were flying
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Speaker 1: at about 2,000 feet of elevation, very close to sunset,
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Speaker 1: and Toshi was just showing the student all the instrumentation
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Speaker 1: and had just called the control tower and gotten clearance
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Speaker 1: to land at Santa Monica Airport when he The attention
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Speaker 1: of him and his student was drawn to a huge,
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Speaker 1: glowing red cigar-shaped object not very far from their plane.
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Speaker 1: It was clearly unexplained, and as Toshi says, this one
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Speaker 1: was cigar-shaped. It was red, glowing red in the shape
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Speaker 1: of a cigar, about two to three times bigger than
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Speaker 1: a bus. It looked like a light, but it looked
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Speaker 1: like a shiny, shiny light. It showed the shape of it.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't a bright light. I couldn't see any detail
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Speaker 1: of it, just a reddish cigar shape. It was a
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Speaker 1: cigar-shaped light. Toshi, as a pilot, is a trained observer
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Speaker 1: and very familiar with aircraft, but he still couldn't identify it,
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Speaker 1: and it really quite startled him. As Toshi says, We
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Speaker 1: were at about the shoreline of Santa Monica to Pacific Palisades. Usually,
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Speaker 1: the tower advises us of other traffic, but they didn't, right?
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Speaker 1: We were looking at it about 20 or 30 seconds.
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Speaker 1: It was standing still in the air, glowing red. We
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Speaker 1: were kind of stunned. We didn't know what to do.
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Speaker 1: So I grabbed the other microphone, and I was going
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Speaker 1: to ask if there was any other traffic nearby. I
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Speaker 1: was going to ask the tower, but we didn't, and
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Speaker 1: I'm glad. I didn't ask because it was kind of
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Speaker 1: like asking if there was a number object that looks
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Speaker 1: like a flying saucer so Toshi was very reluctant to
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Speaker 1: report this UFO because of the ridicule factor because of
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Speaker 1: the possible reaction of skepticism and while he was trying
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Speaker 1: to decide whether or not to report this thing, this
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Speaker 1: object quickly darted away. And as Toshi says, he was
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Speaker 1: looking at it, the student, I was looking at it,
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it disappeared. It disappeared
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Speaker 1: while we were looking at it, which means that the
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Speaker 1: object moved away with a very, very fast speed. And
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Speaker 1: that was the end of Toshi's encounter. But again, there
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Speaker 1: is a twist to the ending of all this, a
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Speaker 1: very interesting end note. As Toshi says, and I quote,
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Speaker 1: This student was in a car driving over the Santa
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Speaker 1: Monica Mountains with his friends. This was about two weeks later.
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Speaker 1: He said that they were chased by the object. According
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Speaker 1: to him, the object looked like it was following their car.
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Speaker 1: According to him, it was the same one. The object
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Speaker 1: looked like the same shape we saw in the airplane.
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Speaker 1: So there you go, another very unusual aspect to this case.
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Speaker 1: Pilot encounters are themselves quite rare, so that alone I
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Speaker 1: think makes this case significant. Toshi's reluctance to report a
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Speaker 1: UFO to the tower is a clear indication of how
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Speaker 1: effective the UFO cover-up has been, And I think it
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Speaker 1: shows that probably the vast majority of pilot encounters goes unreported.
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Speaker 1: But what I find most interesting about this is first
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Speaker 1: they had their sighting and then two weeks later the
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Speaker 1: student had another sighting. And again, I just don't think
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Speaker 1: this is a coincidence. Because often this is a pattern
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Speaker 1: I see. A person will have an initial encounter and
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Speaker 1: shortly later they will have a much closer and more
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Speaker 1: dramatic encounter. So perhaps this indicates that there are deeper
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Speaker 1: levels of contact going on here. Very hard to say,
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Speaker 1: but it is a really sort of interesting and unusual
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Speaker 1: aspect to this particular case. And that's why I wanted
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Speaker 1: to put it on this list. And the next and
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Speaker 1: final case I'd like to talk about in this episode
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Speaker 1: I call What the hell is going on? David Russo's encounter.
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Speaker 1: David Russo is a retired attorney. His encounter took place
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Speaker 1: on the beach at Long Beach. And he actually contacted
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Speaker 1: me to report his case. And like Paul Allion, David
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Speaker 1: Russo also appeared on the History Channel's program UFO hunters
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Speaker 1: to present his encounter. So I would just like to
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Speaker 1: read to you the email that David Russo first sent
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Speaker 1: to me to report his encounter. As he writes, I
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Speaker 1: am sending you this email with great reluctance and fear
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Speaker 1: of being thought a kook. I am a retired attorney,
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Speaker 1: a UFO skeptic, and a pretty scientific-minded man. I am 51,
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Speaker 1: father of two, and a grandfather to one with another
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Speaker 1: on the way. I live two blocks from the ocean
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Speaker 1: on Long Beach, along a part of the city that
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Speaker 1: looks directly at Catalina Island. David Russo's encounter occurred on
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Speaker 1: August 4, 2006 at 11.30 p.m. when he went to
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Speaker 1: the beach to just take a look at the stars
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Speaker 1: in the ocean late one evening. This is something he
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Speaker 1: had done many times, but on this particular evening, he
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Speaker 1: had an encounter which would leave him forever and profoundly changed.
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Speaker 1: And again, I would just like to quote David Russo
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Speaker 1: and let him describe his encounter in his own words.
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Speaker 1: As David says, An object coming from the west around
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Speaker 1: the San Pedro area caught my attention. It was white,
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Speaker 1: and moving somewhat faster than a plane would have. It
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Speaker 1: continued southwest toward the many oil islands off the coast
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Speaker 1: of Long Beach. It changed colors from a white to
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Speaker 1: a very cool and neat blue color as it slowed
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Speaker 1: and started hovering over the water. It's hard to guess
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Speaker 1: how far away it was, especially at night and over
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Speaker 1: the ocean, but it was probably a mile or so offshore.
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Speaker 1: I feared it was indeed a small plane or a
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Speaker 1: helicopter crashing into the ocean. Instead, at a height I
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Speaker 1: estimate between 15 to 25 feet, the object stopped. It
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Speaker 1: just stopped on a dime. Then I realized this was
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Speaker 1: something different. The object then turned a blue color and
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Speaker 1: hovered in place for what seemed like 20 to 30 seconds.
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Speaker 1: No spotlight came on. though it did illuminate the area
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Speaker 1: underneath it with its blue glow. At this point, David
25:29
Speaker 1: could see that this was a distinctly triangular-shaped object, totally silent,
25:36
Speaker 1: and pretty close offshore, less than a mile at this point.
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Speaker 1: And as he says, it was quite bright blue as
25:43
Speaker 1: it rotated. I could tell it was rotating because the
25:47
Speaker 1: blue light would be interrupted three times at equal intervals.
25:52
Speaker 1: There might have been a blue light on the underside,
25:55
Speaker 1: but I could not tell with any certainty. After what
25:59
Speaker 1: seemed like 15 seconds or so, it rose higher, changed
26:05
Speaker 1: to a reddish-orange color, and zipped off toward Catalina Island
26:10
Speaker 1: direction very quickly, and then disappeared as it continued to
26:15
Speaker 1: rise and move away. I have never seen anything move
26:20
Speaker 1: that fast. It was amazingly fast. So after it moved
26:27
Speaker 1: off and disappeared, David Russo was really shaken. I mean,
26:31
Speaker 1: this sighting affected him profoundly. He could not stop thinking
26:37
Speaker 1: about it. As he says, With time, this incident has
26:43
Speaker 1: caused me a mixture of anxiety, depression, and an odd elation.
26:50
Speaker 1: I really want to know what this was, but I
26:52
Speaker 1: know I never will. I have taken to going to
26:55
Speaker 1: the shore at night with binoculars in my digital camera.
27:00
Speaker 1: It has become an embarrassing obsession. He heard no sound,
27:07
Speaker 1: so he knows this wasn't anything normal. He ended up
27:12
Speaker 1: spending quite a bit of money on equipment in the
27:16
Speaker 1: hopes of observing this type of thing again. As of yet,
27:21
Speaker 1: this hasn't happened, but it really affected him in a very,
27:25
Speaker 1: very deep way. And that was a real red flag
27:28
Speaker 1: for me. As he wrote to me in his testimony,
27:33
Speaker 1: he says, I hope this helps you. It feels good
27:37
Speaker 1: to get this off my chest. What the hell is
27:40
Speaker 1: going on? Why doesn't the press investigate this stuff with
27:44
Speaker 1: any energy? I have kept this bottled up for many months.
27:48
Speaker 1: And the whole thing gives me both a creepy and
27:51
Speaker 1: exciting feeling. So as I mentioned, David Russo did agree
27:58
Speaker 1: to share his encounter on the History Channel's program, UFO Hunters,
28:04
Speaker 1: along with Paul Allion and another witness. He still feels
28:08
Speaker 1: profoundly changed by his encounter. And as I interviewed him,
28:14
Speaker 1: I was... not really surprised to hear that this wasn't
28:17
Speaker 1: his first encounter. And in fact, he had had an
28:21
Speaker 1: encounter as a young boy while in the Boy Scouts
28:26
Speaker 1: out camping. He had a very close encounter. And as
28:30
Speaker 1: I talked to him about this current encounter, I was
28:33
Speaker 1: struck by a couple of things. One was his very
28:37
Speaker 1: strong emotional reaction to this encounter, his feeling not only
28:43
Speaker 1: of elation, but of depression and obsession. This is a
28:48
Speaker 1: red flag. It often points to deeper levels of contact.
28:54
Speaker 1: So I started to question him about this. How far
28:56
Speaker 1: away was this object? Because when an object comes close,
28:59
Speaker 1: that's also another red flag. And while this object wasn't
29:03
Speaker 1: super close, it was within that radius that I look
29:07
Speaker 1: for to indicate possible deeper levels of contact. And then
29:11
Speaker 1: I asked him about time. How long were you looking
29:14
Speaker 1: at this object? Did you check the time? And he
29:18
Speaker 1: started to get a little anxious at this point because
29:22
Speaker 1: he said, honestly, I couldn't tell you. It seemed like
29:24
Speaker 1: time stopped. I was entranced. I don't know how long
29:29
Speaker 1: this lasted. He had some confusion about time. And that
29:34
Speaker 1: is another huge red flag, which I told him that
29:37
Speaker 1: there could very well be deeper levels of consciousness here.
29:41
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying he was taken on board. We
29:44
Speaker 1: have no direct indication of that, but given the fact
29:47
Speaker 1: that he had an early childhood encounter, which often happens
29:52
Speaker 1: with contactees, given that this object showed up right where
29:56
Speaker 1: he was looking right when he arrived and came quite
29:59
Speaker 1: close to him, given his very strong emotional reaction to it,
30:04
Speaker 1: his feeling of elation, obsession, depression especially, I think it
30:11
Speaker 1: could very well be that there was some level of
30:14
Speaker 1: contact here. So I don't know. It's hard to say.
30:18
Speaker 1: Only David would know for sure. And at this point,
30:21
Speaker 1: he hasn't pursued it. But as he says, and I quote,
30:26
Speaker 1: I would rather have not seen it, Now, there's this
30:30
Speaker 1: little piece back here that is always wondering and always thinking,
30:35
Speaker 1: what the heck did I see? And will I ever know?
30:42
Speaker 1: So there you go. Those are the five encounters I
30:45
Speaker 1: wanted to present to you today, which I find so
30:48
Speaker 1: interesting because they all have occurred in virtually the same area.
30:52
Speaker 1: And each of them provides little clues as to the
30:55
Speaker 1: nature of this phenomenon. how sometimes an object will show
30:59
Speaker 1: up once and then shortly later show up again. It
31:02
Speaker 1: shows how unusual the lights are, this beam of light
31:06
Speaker 1: that George Gray saw shows how UFOs have mastered the
31:11
Speaker 1: use of the electromagnetic spectrum to a way that we haven't.
31:15
Speaker 1: Or how these witnesses describe how these lights can stop
31:18
Speaker 1: on a dime, dart off so fast you can't follow it,
31:23
Speaker 1: sort of waver slightly while hovering. All of these are
31:27
Speaker 1: little clues that show how profoundly advanced this technology is.
31:36
Speaker 1: I did present these cases in a couple of my books,
31:38
Speaker 1: including UFOs over Topanga Canyon, and more recently in my
31:44
Speaker 1: book Undersea UFO Base, an in-depth investigation into USO activity
31:51
Speaker 1: in the Santa Catalina Channel. And as I mentioned at
31:55
Speaker 1: the beginning of this episode, Each case, no matter how
31:59
Speaker 1: simple it is, is unique and provides another piece of
32:03
Speaker 1: puzzle and provides really important insights into the nature of
32:07
Speaker 1: the UFO phenomena. And these cases, I think, have quite
32:11
Speaker 1: a bit to say about UFOs. And that's why I
32:15
Speaker 1: wanted to present this episode for you today. I hope
32:19
Speaker 1: you've enjoyed it. I really want to thank you once
32:22
Speaker 1: again for watching. I truly appreciate it. And until next time,
32:27
Speaker 1: Keep searching for answers. Keep looking for the truth. And
32:31
Speaker 1: most importantly, and I'm serious about this, keep having fun. Bye.