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#352 - Grayson "The Professor" Boucher · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What's up this this Grayson Bouche better knows the professor.
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  Speaker 1: Check me out on the Bootleg kV podcast Let's go
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  Speaker 2: Special guests here, Street Hoop, Legend, TikTok Legend Now, YouTube
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  Speaker 2: Legend now Cofresser. Hey, let's go. Man. Glad to be
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  Speaker 2: here to see man. Yeah, it's crazy because I remember
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  Speaker 2: watching you back in the day, man, like, uh, you
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  Speaker 2: know when I was a kid, I loved and One's mixtapes.
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  Speaker 2: I remember, uh, you know, obviously rest in peace to escalade,
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  Speaker 2: uh big bro, skip to my lou who ended up
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  Speaker 2: in the league, Raypah, Austin Hot Sauce. Yeah, there was
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  Speaker 2: all these guys that were like celebrities bros. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: then like the and One shit influenced so much shit
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  Speaker 2: in culture because like without and One, there's no NBA Street,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: The baggy shorts. Yeah, the baggy shorts. Just like there
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  Speaker 1: was just so much that, like.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I feel like, uh, and then an One
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  Speaker 2: ended up in Walmart, you know what I'm saying, which
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  Speaker 2: kind of made it uncool. But yeah one, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: new ownership.
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  Speaker 1: I think it changed hands five times or something since
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  Speaker 1: I was there. Yeah, so it's in the hands of
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  Speaker 1: ownership now that you know. Has it been Walmart? I
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  Speaker 1: guess they probably they're winning a lot of fun, They're
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  Speaker 1: making a.
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  Speaker 2: Ton of money.
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  Speaker 1: You're seeing what Shaq did, right, So I think it's
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  Speaker 1: Shack and and One is like the two head sports
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  Speaker 1: brands of Walmart. So I'm sure they kill it from
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  Speaker 1: a financial standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you were eighteen when you started
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  Speaker 2: doing A day and one stuff, right, Yeah, in O
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  Speaker 2: three oh three. So how did you initially because obviously
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  Speaker 2: you're very good at basketball, So at what point in
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  Speaker 2: time did you say, well, I don't know if I
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  Speaker 2: can make it to the league, but this is something,
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  Speaker 2: This is like an ulterior or not an ulterior, but
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  Speaker 2: alternative route I can go to be a professional hooper.
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  Speaker 1: Uh So, So initially when I came out there, I
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  Speaker 1: was really like a fan. It just kind of happened
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  Speaker 1: on accent, but always trying to make the NBA, right,
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  Speaker 1: But I was actually a benchwarmer at a community college,
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  Speaker 1: so it wasn't it wasn't gonna happen. It wasn't looking
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  Speaker 1: great for me at that moment. But after my freshman
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  Speaker 1: year year in college, I improved by like three hundred percent,
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  Speaker 1: Like it's crazy. I finally hit the weights. I'm playing
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  Speaker 1: every day with guys who were going D two and
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  Speaker 1: D one. I already spent all my time hooping, but
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  Speaker 1: now I'm doing three days, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Like literally make five hundred jumpers before class. Go to
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  Speaker 1: class two thirties, open gym, hit the weights, come work
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  Speaker 1: on your game again in the evening, either at a
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  Speaker 1: different n stop or right there's a NonStop. So I
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  Speaker 1: dedicated even more time to the grind and improved. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't realize how fast you could improve. By the end
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  Speaker 1: of that spring after my freshman year, I was like
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  Speaker 1: the best player in the gym, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: with my with my teammates and stuff like that. But
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  Speaker 1: then and one came, and the year before I went
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  Speaker 1: to and one, the first the first nationwide tour.
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  Speaker 2: They had it already poppular.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they had Season one on ESPN already. I'm a fan.
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually wearing and one head to toe before him
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  Speaker 1: even on there, like culturing it.
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  Speaker 2: Trying the moves everywhere I go.
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  Speaker 1: So I go up there as a fan just to
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  Speaker 1: watch but I knew they had to open run because
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  Speaker 1: I had played the year before and I got to
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  Speaker 1: play one game against the players. I think I was
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  Speaker 1: going against like sick witted at the time, headache and
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  Speaker 1: those guys were up there. So hopped in the open run,
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  Speaker 1: got some moves off, some people were going crazy, got
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  Speaker 1: voted in to play against Team and one. And mind you,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even thinking the route of street Ball. I
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  Speaker 1: actually don't even think I belonged there, to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: because it was such like a hood in the city.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you know what I'm saying, Like you're just like
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  Speaker 2: scrining little white eighteen year old kid. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was just talking to half Man, Half Man, Half
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  Speaker 1: Amazing the other day and he was telling me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about the street Ball versus the NBA debate,
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  Speaker 1: but remember he was in the limo. He's like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: we need to see that commercial member the Hood All
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  Speaker 1: Stars versus the NBA All Stars.
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  Speaker 2: I had a pair of those Vince Carters. I think
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  Speaker 2: they were called the half Man Half Amazing. The Vince
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  Speaker 2: Carters were like the and ones that were like one
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  Speaker 2: one half color, one way and the Taichi.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, those they gave they gave Vince Carter that name
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  Speaker 1: from him, though from I didn't other word half man
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  Speaker 1: half amazing. Yeah, I think Kenny Smith took bit. He
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  Speaker 1: knew half Man made the street baller.
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  Speaker 2: But gave it to Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember he was a little upset about that.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, we were talking about that the debate. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, I didn't think I was a Hood all
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think I could be in the mix with
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  Speaker 1: the Hood All Stars. So like I'm doing it from
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  Speaker 1: a fan standpoint. You know, I played next thing. I know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going back and forth with Hot Sauce in the
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  Speaker 1: main and one game, and then they asked me to
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  Speaker 1: go on tour. So mine kind of happening on accident.
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  Speaker 1: But I did try to pursue the NBA up until
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and seven. Played in the CBA, which was
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  Speaker 1: like the G League. Yeah, and then the original G League,
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  Speaker 1: the original G League.
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  Speaker 2: That's how high I got.
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  Speaker 1: But then, like man, the politics of the game though,
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  Speaker 1: I lost some good when I.
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  Speaker 2: Got in the game when they I think they got
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  Speaker 2: to me there for ticket sales. Yeah, because you were
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  Speaker 2: a name bro like you ended up kind of being
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  Speaker 2: like the like kind of the face and won for
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  Speaker 2: a minute, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I got there. I think it was like
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  Speaker 1: a ticket sale thing. But then like I got a
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  Speaker 1: little time, especially when the starting point guard it was
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  Speaker 1: actually step On Marbury's brother, he got injured for like
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  Speaker 1: three games. So started for three games. One of them
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  Speaker 1: I had over twenty points, like seven assists.
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  Speaker 2: Ye.
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  Speaker 1: The other two I had like fifteen and five or
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  Speaker 1: something like that. We lost one in one two. But
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  Speaker 1: when that dude got healthy, man, they put it right
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  Speaker 1: back in the lineup, even though we weren't winning a
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  Speaker 1: game before that. So it was like the politics of
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  Speaker 1: the game, you know, people looked at street ball actually
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  Speaker 1: in that time, it was like it actually wasn't real basketball,
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  Speaker 1: so it didn't fit.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think it like worked against you because people
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  Speaker 2: perceived you as a street baller and not an actual
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  Speaker 2: like you know, professional Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when it came to the conventional game, it was
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  Speaker 1: a bad thing. Skipped to my lou even you know,
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  Speaker 1: who played in the NBA for over ten years.
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  Speaker 2: It took him a while to get in though.
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  Speaker 1: Well he had to let go of his street ball reputation.
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  Speaker 1: I remember my year getting on the tour two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and three was the last time he even played any games.
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  Speaker 2: He just stopped playing on the tour. And he had
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  Speaker 2: a solid career too, and he had some good years
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  Speaker 2: with Orlando and Houston. Like, yeah, he was good.
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  Speaker 1: But it's cool because it's actually funny how it works
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  Speaker 1: because back then it was a bad thing to the
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  Speaker 1: NBA high ups. Now the All Star the Hall of
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  Speaker 1: famers of today grew up. Why want so Like when
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  Speaker 1: I meet you know, like Paul George or Kyrie, they're like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're to watch you back inspired by you, But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I love it. It's incredible, grew up off you.
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  Speaker 2: That shit's so crazy. It's it's wild too because like
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  Speaker 2: think about like NBA Street, they took so many of
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  Speaker 2: your guys's moves and put them into that game. Did
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  Speaker 2: they ever like tap in with y'all like or like,
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  Speaker 2: because they really took y'all's moves and like literally it
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  Speaker 2: was just, I mean, a legendary video game. But I
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  Speaker 2: can only imagine. It's almost like with the Fortnite dances.
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  Speaker 2: Some of these dancers. You can turn off Fortnite, the
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  Speaker 2: dancers are in the game and they getting credit, Like,
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  Speaker 2: did y'all get any credit for any of the NBA
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  Speaker 2: Street shit.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, people would mix it up, you know, like they'd
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  Speaker 1: ask us, they think it's our game. So we had
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  Speaker 1: two games too, so.
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  Speaker 2: We remember Street Hoops. They weren't great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what happened was I remember the games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think with Street Hoops they probably saw that and
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  Speaker 1: we're like, oh, we could do this better. Put the
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  Speaker 1: NBA stamp on its probably goal. But then we came
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  Speaker 1: we didn't add one Street Ball. I actually thought that
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  Speaker 1: was decent. With Activision, that was.
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  Speaker 2: A more I don't know if I played that one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that one was a souped up version, but
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  Speaker 1: it was right around the buy out from Anywise, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think got the marketing boost, and I don't they
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  Speaker 1: were going to do a part two, but it got
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  Speaker 1: bought out. Yeah, So I think honestly, they just saw
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  Speaker 1: the wave of it and the NBA smart for them
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  Speaker 1: to capitalize on the street side of things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy because the tour was like I got
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  Speaker 2: to go to one of the tour stops and it
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  Speaker 2: was in an arena. It was packed the fuck out.
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  Speaker 2: You guys had like it was it was like what
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  Speaker 2: was like touring because it's almost like being on the road, right,
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  Speaker 2: like if you're in the league. But it's a little
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  Speaker 2: different because you guys are kind of like the new
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  Speaker 2: h Harlem Globehouders in a sense, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's an entertainment. There's basketball, but there's also like
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  Speaker 2: we have to entertain all these people. Would you guys
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  Speaker 2: like let each other get your shit off?
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  Speaker 1: No, it was always a real thing, and it was
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  Speaker 1: always like real defense being played playing strangers, so we
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  Speaker 1: didn't know them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was tea man one versus whoever was.
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  Speaker 1: Best of that city in the city, right, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so they'd be but it was it was actually like
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  Speaker 1: a very high level competition game. You know, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of like myths of what level the N one
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  Speaker 1: players were, but like it's a pro level. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this is above college. This is like a pro thing.
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  Speaker 1: So we would play dudes who played overseas, We play
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  Speaker 1: like street ball legends in that city, and it was real,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Like that was the beauty of it though,
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  Speaker 1: was like there was even times where it didn't go
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  Speaker 1: our way, but most of the time eighty ninety percent
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  Speaker 1: of the time we'd go crazy. And honestly, that original
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  Speaker 1: group was like special for the talent level was crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy, man, for you, you've had such a great
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  Speaker 2: like resurgence because I feel like, you know, I was
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  Speaker 2: just an NBA con and my sons. I took my
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  Speaker 2: kids there and they're both they both played basketball and
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  Speaker 2: they're both like wrapped up. And I didn't know there
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  Speaker 2: was like this YouTube world of basketball like YouTubers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was the first YouTube hooper on.
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  Speaker 2: Accident, yeah, said, I didn't know. And we met some
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  Speaker 2: other community.
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  Speaker 1: What's this white kid named jess just t Jazz t
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  Speaker 1: Jazz Tristan Jacks.
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  Speaker 2: That guy, like my kids freaked out because he's walking by,
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  Speaker 2: and I just I don't know who the fuck this
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  Speaker 2: guy is, right, So I'm just like, hey, buddy, apparently
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  Speaker 2: my kids know who you are. You might if they
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  Speaker 2: get a pick. He's like sure, sweet kid, Yes, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't realize this dude's lit like yeah lit yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Like I had no idea because I'm on YouTube. I
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  Speaker 2: look up a channel. I'm like Jesus Christ, Like it's
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  Speaker 2: crazy that basketball related content is so big now and
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  Speaker 2: what you do is so like perfect for today's landscape.
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  Speaker 2: Like for you, like you've you've kind of been the
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  Speaker 2: only guy I've seen from the era of an one
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  Speaker 2: that I watched that is successfully transitioned into being extremely
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  Speaker 2: successful in today's climate. Like for you, like, was it
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  Speaker 2: on accident? Was it on purpose? Like explain to me,
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  Speaker 2: like kind of like the run you've been.
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  Speaker 1: On a little bit of both, you know, like and
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  Speaker 1: one ended in Uh oh wait, well you got to
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  Speaker 1: think I'm only twenty four or twenty five years old,
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  Speaker 1: So like I feel, like I said, playing career right.
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  Speaker 1: But I found out YouTube when it came out like
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  Speaker 1: four you know, like we would even go overseas and
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  Speaker 1: people would approach me and be like, you know, show
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  Speaker 1: love or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Now out of habit.
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  Speaker 1: I'd say, hey, thanks for checking out the show me
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  Speaker 1: our ESPN show, and they'd be like, oh no, I
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  Speaker 1: saw your stuff on YouTube. So I started looking into
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  Speaker 1: it about four.
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  Speaker 2: H five because your clips are up there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So they would rip our clips from the show
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  Speaker 1: channels make a compilation millions every single one had millions
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  Speaker 1: of views. So I got a homie who was an
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  Speaker 1: editor who's from like, you know, my home city, and
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  Speaker 1: I paid them a little bit st from I'm from Kaiser, Organs,
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  Speaker 1: very small.
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  Speaker 2: Town organ man yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, well I live here twenty years but from
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  Speaker 1: Oregon originally. But anyway, I tried to flood YouTube to
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  Speaker 1: get bookings. You know, you used to be able to
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  Speaker 1: get a DM on YouTube, So I started trying to
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  Speaker 1: flood it like that. But then when and when ended
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  Speaker 1: in eight started my own channel because YouTube adsence just
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  Speaker 1: came out, I think eight or nine. So I started
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  Speaker 1: my own channel. Oh nine, you're up, you're early. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I was like knowing that I could get international
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  Speaker 1: bookings because while one went down in the US in
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  Speaker 1: popularity once I got bought out and not on ESPN overseas,
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  Speaker 1: it was like and social media and that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: before social media couldn't really keep up with the narrative
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  Speaker 1: of a different country, so they're thinking it's still like
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  Speaker 1: topped off. So I would play like and one, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Brazil and one Africa, and yeah, I was doing these
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  Speaker 1: one off games. So I built YouTube to get live
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  Speaker 1: show bookings.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: But then twenty thirteen I went viral and I got
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  Speaker 1: a million subs in like one day.
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  Speaker 2: What the fuck? What video was it?
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  Speaker 1: It was a Spider Man basketball I dressed up as
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  Speaker 1: Spider Man suit and I played people one on one
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  Speaker 1: at the park, and I think and it did it
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  Speaker 1: for like twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 2: But I made every shot.
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  Speaker 1: Every trick worked, So it just was perfect edited that
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  Speaker 1: joints us a three minute video. But you know, back
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  Speaker 1: then it was so it was a six million a week,
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  Speaker 1: but back then that was like fifty million a week,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, it was a lot harder. And then
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  Speaker 2: the views counted for like a lot more and the
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  Speaker 2: ad sense was much better back then. Yeah, yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: was way different.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, so just for for that six million a week,
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  Speaker 1: I could hit it by every mediality that you know, CNN, NBC, MTV, ESPN,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so.
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  Speaker 2: For you like like that was kind of did you
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  Speaker 2: realize at that point in time that there was the
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  Speaker 2: real money was being a content creator?
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  Speaker 1: It started to be clear, It started to be clear. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was just thinking such like a hooper though,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like back in the and one day when
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  Speaker 1: it ended and all that, I was just thinking, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, am I still pursuing the NBA? Where am
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  Speaker 1: I going to hoop?
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  Speaker 2: Now? Going overseas on kids going to Gili?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, not knowing as I'm uploading, I'm doing my job.
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  Speaker 1: We're good, you know, but it took a viral spike
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  Speaker 1: to turn it into a business like real fast.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You're like, oh, this is
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  Speaker 2: this is it? This is it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought about it even back in the day
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  Speaker 1: when I first heard about YouTube, because I knew it
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  Speaker 1: was in a few other countries because internationally they'd recognize
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  Speaker 1: us from it. And I remember saying to myself, I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is like TV. This is like I said, free distribution.
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  Speaker 1: But then when it came to fruition as a business,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, literally, it's TV, like like way higher
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  Speaker 1: than you know, we never thought it.
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  Speaker 2: Would be like today, right, it's like the go to.
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  Speaker 2: But what about TikTok? When did TikTok really take off
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  Speaker 2: for you? Because you got a shit ton of followers.
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  Speaker 1: Were trying to go crazy on TikTok. Yeah, it's great.
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  Speaker 1: Could you can you make money on TikTok? I know that,
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  Speaker 1: like you can. You can get it like when it's monetized.
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  Speaker 1: I've had people tell me once you monetize your TikTok,
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  Speaker 1: they start fucking with your algorithm. No, okay, here's the truth.
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  Speaker 1: You don't really make. It's like YouTube shorts, you don't really.
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  Speaker 2: You don't make much because the YouTube shorts you'll be
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  Speaker 2: like I got I got an interview clip that has
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  Speaker 2: like three million views and I think I made twenty
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  Speaker 2: nine dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah something like that. Yeah, I've done thirty million. It
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  Speaker 1: made like not a couple.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: Of like yeah, right, it's like what do we do it? Yeah?
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, my TikTok I got three and a half
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: billion views and I made eight thousand dollars. So it
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: pays a little more on YouTube shorts.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but it's a commercial for your YouTube channel
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: kind of right, yeah, and my thing commercial for your brand. Yeah.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: And when when I started take off on YouTube and
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: pressing to social media, I started realizing the value like early,
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: you should be on every platform everything.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: Anything that drops. I signed up for the Dame like
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: just in case, you know.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and when it's new, pressing and go hard because
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: you know they're pushing everything. Like so with YouTube, I
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: would think I was actually a year late to you
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: to TikTok. Yeah, to be honest, but once I got
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: on my first video, I didn't put no effort in.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: It got like five and a half million views. It
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: was on Halloween. I was dressed as a Joker. My
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: cousin was Batman. So the Joker movie song was trending.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we just did I did a little dribble
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: as the Joker, like nothing, not.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: Even anything crazy. Yeah, but it just went crazy. But
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: like five and a half million views. I was like, oh,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: there might be something here. Yes, I should use it.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy because you watch like I just
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: watched The White Men Can't Jump video, a movie with
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Jack Harlow, which was actually a lot better than I
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: thought it was gonna be. Do you ever have you
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: ever had a point in time where you were hustling
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: people at the park?
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, I live White Man Can't Jump today?
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Like still, I know you do it on this on
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: like TikTok. Will you like show up like dressed as
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: like a McDonald's employee or something. But I mean, like
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: when the cameras aren't rolling, like maybe you're in a
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: different city or you're like you know what, Oh, I
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: see what you're saying. Now, have you ever like pulled
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: up to the park and been like I'm gonna just
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: it's almost like being.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: A pool shark, right, Well, somebody there is gonna know
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: me now now they will. Yeah, but you've never done
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: that in like ever old just period, just hustled somebody
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: out of somebody at the park because they just assume
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: you're like the geeky white dude, And well I grew
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: up doing it. I mean I feel like I grew
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: up doing that literally and then up until I don't know,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: I think as of like twenty fifteen.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Though you're too famous.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I only play if we're rolling for you the vlog,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: if we're rolling for social media, Like I won't even
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: do open runs or nothing only because of injury risk
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: though you know thirty nine right now hurt, Yeah, yeah,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: you get hurt, then you can't do your grind. It
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: actually doesn't make any sense the older I get. It's
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: just like the league, right, you pay too much outside
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: these when I tell everybody, like it's really easy to
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: watch the Big Three and be like he still got it, Like, yeah,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: he still got it for a half court game once
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: a week, But I don't know if he's still got it.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: For eighty two games.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: It's a lot different, right, People have a lot of
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: spin past the normal like hooping age, which you're right
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: that eighty two games brutal, Like I just saw Jay
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Rich get up at Big Three and like almost hit
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: his head on the fucking rim again.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, but can he sustain being healthy for a whole season?
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: You know it's hard.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: But like, for like, it's hard for me to stay
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: healthy doing YouTube.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's crazy, you know what I mean?
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: But it's been good and honestly, like that's the cool parts.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: My lane is kind of unexplored because once you're about
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: thirty five playing in the league, right, it's too many
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: miles for your body. It's gonna be hard for you
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: to sustain unless you're like a Vince Carter or Lebron,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: you know, world class athlete. But for me, like I'm
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: you Donis Haslim who you know, it's kind of like,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: oh he kept going, he's kind of like a coach.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, but I mean, heyde was insane athlete, right.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Sane athlete? Yes, and one of the guys you did
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: not want to throw hands within the league.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, true, sorry.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Like him and Zebo growing up, Like, I don't know
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: if you would ever want to fight either one of
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: those guys.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, But you know, for me, I feel like
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just as quick as I wasn't oh five, Like.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: It's crazy because you could have went like you probably
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: could have win a few different directions, right, you might
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: have could have went the Chris Brickley direction and like
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: trained guys, and he's done a good job of like
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: doing content and also like obviously training players. But kill it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I think like the YouTube wave is I mean, it's
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: it's it's it man.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love I love entertaining, like entertainment production, even acting.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I've acted for twenty years. I never had like heavy
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: prominent role.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: What the movies have you been?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Was re saying that hustle, you know, Adam Sandler's had
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: like cameo.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: What's what's the guy's name? Fucking the dude that looks
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: like you? Kind of Oh, you're talking about the lead?
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Herr go what's his name? Something? Go be her Gomez. Yeah,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: some shot. It's no, it's not even that I'm blinking.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I'm blinking.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: It's goss. It's something gomes. It starts with an H.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know, mess goo google it held up, it's
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: it's I know he has honcho' it's honcho or wan
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Sho is his name?
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Hearing a Gomez? Yeah, I know his last name. I
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: don't know his first name.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: There is Wan Sho, Wan Show or Han Sho. You know,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: he's a cool cat man. I feel like he's my bro.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I should know. Any Edwards is a great actor too.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: But they both did their Yeah, they super did their thing,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: and that that was really dope. Other other films I've
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: been in, like like a When I say acting, you're
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: doing like fifty to one hundred commercials for any brand,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: every bring.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: You can think of.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: But then also, uh, I first moved to la O six.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I actually had a lead role in the movie. It's
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: called Bald Don't Lie And it never got released.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Damn. That's gotta be tough. Did you get paid for it?
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I got paid for it, yeah, but not much. You
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: know indie film, right, But you're like, damn, I just
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: want it for me.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Can I get it on it? Do you have it
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: on DVD or something? Yeah?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I do have it, but we're trying to release it today.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: We're trying to get it released now. I met up
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: with those producers for the first time in like fifteen years.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why not put it on two B or something?
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: That was our thought for the resume.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, dude, that we made the movie, like yeah,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: like it's gonna lose it, like unless it's like horrible
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: and you're gonna get canceled because you shot at a No.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Six and you know no, I mean, we're not gonna
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: win no Awards. But it's not horrible. That good basketball,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but they're making some good basketball movies recently. Yeah,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: a lot more too, because you used to only get
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: a basket when we were every few years.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I just watched this one on Disney Plus when my
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: kids about an Asian dude trying to dunk. It's called
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Chang Chain Can't dunk.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Or God it was actually not I didn't even hear
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: about this on Disney Plus.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: It's about this Asian kid who goes viral on YouTube
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: trying to uh document the process of him trying to
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: dunk because he has a bet with another kid at
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: his high school that he can dunk, huh. And then
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: he ends up faking him dunking for the YouTube vie.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: But then he gets all out for and to apologize.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: It's actually really good. It's a Disney original. Check it out.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Oh it's Disney Wow. I'm telling you, you guys, you
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: and this other fucking guy we just talked about. You
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: guys are making this basketball shit like popping a whole
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: different way.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Bro, trying to man, trying to go for it. I'm
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: actually trying to hoop till twenty thirty four. Fifty years old, dad.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: That I mean you probably go till sixty because they
• 20:13
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• 20:16
  Speaker 2: a YouTube title, sixty year old break some guys ankle
• 20:20
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• 20:20
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  Speaker 2: the interview for you, Like, how do you like, like,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: are you pretty health conscientious? Are you like obviously you're
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: not running you know, full court runs outside of being
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: on film. But are you like making sure that you're
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: taking the precautions to not you know, be injured. Oh yeah,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I'm training a lot.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I try super active, So train twice a week
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: with like functional movement training, a lot of core stuff.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: It's like the same kind of training.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: That you still look like you're fucking eighteen. By the way,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: humble man, they say black that hey, they say black.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Don't crack, gingers, don't crack.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: My goodness, We're trying, man, trying, Thank you, bro. But no, Yeah,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: functional movement training. I live in marine. I run the
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: water like three times a week, and then I hoop
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: on top of that. So if we're going hooping, the
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: functional movement training plus running, it's very active on a
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: weekly basis. So even if don't hoop that much, still
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: gotta stay moving, you gotta. That's one key to longevity.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Is just like even if you run and you don't
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: get a good cardio sweating, at least you moved movement.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: You just got to stay due. He can't take long breaks.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Yeah. I was gonna say, back in
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: the day Peak in one, was there ever any sort
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: of like because you guys were super hot man and
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I always wondered how like guys in the actual league
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: felt about Yeah, was ever any like obviously, yeah, I'm
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: sure there was like love, but was there any like
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: haters in the NBA that just like like, was ere
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: any like fucking and one NBA beefs going on that? Yeah?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I think yeah, there was a little bit. You know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: it's funny. I'm shooting a video tomorrow talking about this
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: exact subject right here, Like no, Lie, I was on
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: kg's podcast a couple of weeks ago, yep, and we
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: had a little snippet came out on Instagram about it,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and it like I didn't Yeah, it went crazy.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: What was Kg's hand?
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: He was basically saying, some of my teammates they were
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: eating dinner somewhere at the restaurant New York, and the
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: topic came up of them, you know, getting at the
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: NBA players and KG he was like, man, he's like
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I was about that. I wanted to see what's good,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Obviously they're in the league
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: at that time.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Like some like unfilmed Super Game where like Kevin Kevin
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Garnett and like fucking Stephan Mowberry show up to like
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: a park in Haarleam at three am and Battle.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: At Howard though.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: No, you know what's crazy though, when when have Amazing
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: was gassing that up? Though back in the day, Like,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: think about it, we were on TV more than the NBA, right.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: The ESPN.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Sure think if they actually did, if that game actually
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: was for real, like that would have like we might
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: have had to have a foot think about we sold
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: out the garden just an and one game, right, so
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: what would have and one versus NBA All Star game?
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Crazy and just a theory game, especially in like three
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: or four. Oh my, we might need a football stadium
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: me and have Man, we're just talking about that.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy to think, Like, you know, I'm just
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: glad to see because you know, when I was a kid, man,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: basketball was so and it's big now. But it's just
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: dope to see like today's generation have whatever version of
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: like and One was to me to them, you know
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: That's what I'll try to keep it going because you probably.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I have such a wide range of fans. Oh super
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: because you have like guys that are like me who
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: is old and watch you as as when I was
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: a kid, and then you got like my fucking nine
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: year old knows exactly who you are. I showed him.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: He said, oh, you're gonna interview him. He's at basketball
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: camp right now. Otherwise he'd probably be here. But oh,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: you know, it's crazy you have like such a like
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: it's probably hard for you to go too many places
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: without getting stopped. Yeah, oh no, Yeah, for sure.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: It's a blessing though, Like if I look at my analytics,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: it's like twenty percent eighteen and under, twenty percent eighteen
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: to thirty five, twenty percent, thirty.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Five and up.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I even got people fifty five and up. There's a
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: ten percent you know. So yeah, it's a blessing to
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: have a wide demographic of doing it just for a
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: long time for you.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Uh, obviously, see you want to ball to your fifty
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: But what are other things you're trying to like do
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: to kind of just expand like the empire. Yeah, obviously
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: you got merch, you got stuff you're selling, but like
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: give me kind of the breakdown on Noble Hooper dot com,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Global Hooper dot com.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh, when you talk about expansion, I'm actually
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: trying to produce a movie of my life story or
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I play myself. So I've been working on that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: For a couple of years.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Get that film soon, because you're the strike don't help,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Strikes fucking everything that's not helping.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: But except for TV, yeah maybe I think you can still.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Get a TV movie off and the tag won't be mad.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I'm inside. Yeah, I don't know. So if you're in SAG,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you should not. You're on strike. You are on strike.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I heard there like it's like gang shit, like you
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: cannot cross the strike.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: It's real, it's real, it's real. So so now we
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: respecting all that, but you know, trying to put more
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: of a foot into the acting world. I don't think
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: i'd ever stop my YouTube channel just because, like you've
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: seen even a list stars a influencers also, and I've
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: seen even like big YouTubers go mainstream or do something
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: mainstream and then have to come back to YouTube and.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: It happens actually a lot.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Then the Alborim's all messed up. It's not like it
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: was before. So I don't I don't ever want to
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: let um off the gas. Personally, I just think controlling
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: your own narrative is a beautiful thing. You're your own
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: boss over there. If people don't want to give you
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: work elsewhere, you still.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Got that, and it's it is TV. Like the number
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: one used that on my TV is YouTube. Yeah, I
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: mean it's number one streaming app in the world. Like
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I'm I don't care about Like, I don't watch Netflix
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: most unless like some show drops, like I just watched Quarterbacks, okay,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: but I'm always on YouTube. My kids are on YouTube.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, me too. If I'm not if I'm
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: not watching Netflix, it's YouTube.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so you're essentially you're like you want to
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: just kind of dip your toe into like producing like
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: original content or being a part of like movies on
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: a bigger scale. Yeah, as well as still keeping your
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: foot on.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: The mainly acting a little bit of producing. Yeah, for sure.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: But also for me, it's funny as long as I've gone,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you know, start my YouTube channel.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Oh nine.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: The weakness of my brand has actually always been infrastructure.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't upload enough, and now as we get further
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: into it, people upload way way more.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Essentially, how often are you are you dropping content?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Now we're gonna go four to six times a month.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: But I've always I've always been like kind of like
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: mister beasts where you take a lot of time for
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: video treated like a TV show where everything's perfect, good, sound, amazing,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: consopt and you're aiming to break the Internet. But we
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: sometimes I want to get one or two of a month, right.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: And while that, while that was good, don't get me wrong,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: is good, Like I think there's a more, a better
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: from a business standpoint. What's your most viewed YouTube video?
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Eighty three mil views?
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: But what what what were you doing? Oh?
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I went to Laguna Beach and I played a trash talker.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: It was actually the first, my first trash talker video
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I came up with that that turn in the trash talk.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: The dude was just talking crazy. I was.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I had been up there for like three hours of
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: playing at the Laguna Courts, you know, the Laguna Beach,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: and this dude came up and he was just he's
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: trying to discredit everything I did.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: And then he was trying to do exactly who you were.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think he did. So he didn't know I
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: don't think so. Maybe maybe, but I don't think so.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: So then he was like giving the dude a hard
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: time to guard me. Maybe he knew them, but he
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: kept he kept saying after every bucket, I would get like, man,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you gotta do this, doude this, and he's like, all
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: you got to do is watch his hips, and so
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: he's like, man, I got next, and I was like,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I said something like, well, maybe we should get a
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: ones in.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, let's get the ones in.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: So I was like all right, cool. So he finished
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: that game and I was like all right, man, trying
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: to do it, and then we matched up one on one.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: He was a little bit heavy set though, so midway
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: through the game, a little winded, I did a move,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: went between his legs, snash it. I didn't even touch him.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: He's smack. He like smack hit the pavement.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Right then, like two plays later, I did somewhere up
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: faked between my legs between his legs, snatch it. He
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: broke his shoulder. He like he like reached, he threw
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: his shoulder out of the socket. So the game didn't
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: That's why I got eight three mil views. The game
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: didn't even end.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: We couldn't have.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Wrote a better script.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Holy shit. Yeah.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: So so when we edit it, we go to the edit,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: we told the story of how the game happened, because
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: that was one of my critiques. We don't play good
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: enough competition, right, It's like I play anybody in the
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Street Street Bowl. So we told the story of why
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: that game went down. But then we realized, oh, like,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you gotta do this every video, we gotta tell us.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: The story to the thumb was a zoom into the
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: ankle breaker. So it kind of that laid the it
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: that paved the way for how I need to do videos.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: And even the title I had money in the title, Yeah,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: to play the game for a hundred bucks or whatever
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: it's trash talker.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, eighty three million. Yeah, I think that was twenty sixteen,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: and that's fully monetized. Oh for sure, twenty sixteen.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: That's sure, Yeah, that's yeah, a lifetime analytics on there. Nice.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Is it safe to say you've surpassed her and one
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: pay as a YouTuber by like ten or thirty times
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: by now?
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say somewhere around twenty ten.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, not to get in your pockets, but back
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: in the day, like what was what was the pay decent?
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Like like, if you guys are hitting the road, it
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: was decent.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mind. I think my first contract ever
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: with an one eighteen years old, was like seventy K.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Sixty seventy k not bad for an eighteen year old
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: kid professionally playing hoops back then before inflation hit the
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: fucking not bad.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't bad. But then as we win, it
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: went big.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: So we did, you know, multi multi year six figure deals,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Like by the time I left, I think I signed
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: a two fifty k a year. Yeah, two fifty k
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: or something my last year. But then we would make
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: money outside of an one two, so.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: You could go do that. Then you can go do oh,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do an appearance. I'm gonna go playing a
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: game in China or Africa.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think my last year, I think one
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: of the years made eight hundred K or something like that,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: and so that was cool.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: But just hooping, just hooping.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I think maybe millions of dollars the whole run, the
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: whole run, of course. But after saying like for a
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: single year, for a single year, I was like, Also,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I thought I was rich. I thought my money would
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: never run out.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Was everyone's pay scales different? Do you know? Or like?
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Because obviously there's bigger names, smaller names, like because I
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: think when I think, when I think of you, I
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: think a hot sauce, I think, I think escalade, I
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: think of half and half amazing. I think of who else.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: And you're probably different. You watched it, you know the
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: casuals they say, like me, hot sauce, and then it's
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: either like Skip or escalating.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah maybe Ao, Yeah, Ao was dope. Yeah yeah, damn
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: that's crazy, Yeah damn Yeah.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: But no, it's based on marketability and skill. So like
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: what you bring to the table on the court played
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: a role, but then obviously your marketability. So I'm sure
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: like hot Sauls had the biggest deal allside. Skip was
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: already in the NBA, but like you know, I'm sure
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: hot Sauce had the biggest hot sauce.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Ao. Main When you saw raph Austin naked to the league,
• 33:10
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  Speaker 2: coot like oh, let's get back to the interview. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: or a lot of people like that. Because he kind
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  Speaker 2: of kicked the door down for the possibility to like
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  Speaker 2: be a like a legendary street baller.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: So his was different though, so he actually played all
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: he went the regular ride, just played street balls in
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: the summer, so we're like full time street ball, Like
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I let go of school for it.
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  Speaker 2: So his thing was he was still going to school,
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  Speaker 2: he was still doing everything. Summertime.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: It was he played community college Fresno State, got drafted
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Little D League, then came back up, then signed a
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: big deal, a few big deals. But yeah, uh for
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: the other guys, I mean, anything's possible, but I think
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys just didn't get that opportunity or
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: like there may be was some shortcoming, whether it was
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: on the corridor off course, everybody's story is a little
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: bit different, but dudes were good enough to be that's
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the myth man. They did that documentary. They did a
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: doc on an One last year on ES. There's two docs.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: There's one on Netflix, the one on ESPN had NBA
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: players kind of like bashing I don't even know why
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: this was in the dock if it's the an One doc,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: but they were like bashing the level of play of
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and one players, and uh, it wasn't a good narrative,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Like it wasn't true.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Why do the documentary if you're gonna bash this.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I didn't understand it. I don't know,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: but luckily most people saw the Netflix.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's crazy too because I think like back then,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: like there had to have been like for you guys
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: like to hit it, Like what was was y'all did
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: y'all have like and one groupies was there like chicks?
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Like who was like fucking because you know what? Yeah,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: that was the thing. It was hip hop. It was
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: a rock star hip hop basketball tour. Yes, what you
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: guys had rappers on tour too? Right? Or was it
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: different city?
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Everybody did the halftimes like like, okay, remember we're just
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: saying Cassidy was up here. He was going but it
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: was like dipset the locks.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I think when I saw it, it was, uh, David
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Banner and Roscoe. David Banner killed it.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Bro Oh my god, Jacks in Mississippi is home.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: It was wild. Listen. I always say this because I've
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I've always watched guys do halftime shows and they'd be like,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: it's a little different. People are getting up to go
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: to like get their drinks from like listen, oh, this
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: is lit. I saw David Banner do a halftime show
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: and he was alone standing in the middle of the
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: court and he.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Shut that shit the fuck shut it down. I ain't
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: got up on the rim once. He's like, shat on
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the rim. It was crazy, but uh no, those halftimes
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: went off. E forty actually killed her. Like when we
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: did the Bay with the Bay Area, I'd play Oakland.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I remember E forty came on there and they and
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: uh oh what was it? There was these other dudes though,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: some local group.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: It was like them.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they hit the court and everybody run the court
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: and they had to stop it because it got It
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: was like fire Hypierra Man, Yeah, exactly, a Hyph Fierer.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: That was crazy. But every halftime for a one was
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: like super Turnto.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: What about. What do you think about Big Three?
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Oh? I think it's dope.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't think like some people might call
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: that like street I don't really view it as like
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: street ball necessarily, but I think that, like, you guys
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: have more spin after the league. You know what I'm saying,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: You might be good in a half court till you're fifty,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: like you're saying so. So I think it's another it's
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: another outlet to check out. I feel like it was funny.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Ice Cube was saying he felt like the gatekeepers are
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: kind of like stopping it from and I feel like
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: that too, because he doing all the mainstream media. I
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: think that it would benefit from having some headline players
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: though that that uh maybe could turn up from a
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: D from a highlight standpoint.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: That's what I think I was gonna say.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Like when Iverson and Jay Will and the end of
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: the year for year one, yeah, that was ready to
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: go berserk.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then yeah, because that made me want to watch,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: I was like, wait, white chocolate and Ai, which is tough. Yeah,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: me too.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: But the hard thing was like, so Jay Will, he
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: was ready played, we got injured, right, So because he
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: never came back after that, did he ever play at all?
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe a game or two he blew out his knee,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: and then I knew a you know, I played Iverson's
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: as game he ever played, like I played with him
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: in China. It was a three game tours on my
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: YouTube channel. Really yeah, it was fire, but because that
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: was my guy. Was that twenty twelve?
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Wow? So his kind of fair relator in China? You
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: were you were there?
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty twelve and well the last time he actually
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: took to the court and played a full game. But
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: so I knew, but he barely wanted to do that,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: and then after that he never played again. So I
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: knew in the Big Three somebody he's hooping. I was like,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: are you sure would like to play like that? Because
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like you play on
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Iverson's level, or like those nbals are even like me
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: talking to KG, right, they ain't trying to The stakes
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: are too low. It feels weird, like going to play
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: in a game at a half full arena, or like if
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I asked KG, would you collab on my yout he
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: gonna be like, na, why he's already cemented that. Dude's
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Now. It's crazy. Have you ever hooped or messed around
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: with uh, with Jason Williams at all? With Jay Will
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: because he's obviously kind of like the you know when
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: you were a kid watching him and Vince and it
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: was like that era, like a street ball in the leap.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, crazy Iverson jay Will, Like you said, Vince,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: that was crazy. Yeah, we're trying to make it happen.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: We're actually trying to make it happen. So I did
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: a collab video with him and came to our studio downtown.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I have like a half court with the LED setup.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: We just talked hoops. He showed me his elbow pass.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I show an elbow pass.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I showed him a move I do, just
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: got his thoughts on it. And then.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: We've been trying to re so I got I actually
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: had a little injury, but we've been trying to revisit
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: doing a hoop video and he said he was down.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: So like, if you guys went to the park or something,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: totally will break the internet.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Just go break the internet real quick. Yes, it'd be crazy. Yeah,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: so we trying. We're trying. Did they ever approach you
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: to try to play in like the Big Three? Maybe
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: by the way, they'd be smart too.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: They asked me to enter the draft, but I noticed
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: that Skip was in the draft. He didn't get picked,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: So like I was gonna introd, well he didn't get picked.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Skip was in the draft and didn't.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the guys who got I mean, listen,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: no disrespect to a lot of those guys. But I remember,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: just I'm talking, we're talking about selling tickets, putting seats
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: and asses here.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe Skip it want to play.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't know the details, right, but I just like
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I remember seeing some of the guys and I'm just like, yeah,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I mean Rashan McCants was like a fringe, like make
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: it on a roster kind of guy. And I know
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: he's like one of the main Big three guys, but
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know what's coming out to sever
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: you know Amari for a little bit. You know, they tough.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: You need to highlight guys. You need somebody to Yeah,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: you need the TikTok guys. Hey, what's the real It's
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: gonna go crazy to promote the Big Three.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're not good enough. You know, I'm saying,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: you gotta play at that higher level.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: I don't keep it.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: He's trying to keep it big boy, you know, just
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: below the NBA competition level. I didn't want to do
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: it because, like my thing was, like they're giving other
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: dudes deals.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: What do you mean to enter the draft?
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: That's just from marketing so you can I'm in it.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm the most popular guy following wise.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Here literally outside of Jawill and Iverson.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: That would have been one hundred percent.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So like I wasn't gonna do it unless someoney
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: would sign me. But then also let me play how
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I play travel Chip in the the three, I feel
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: like they could benefit a lout from some entertainment I know,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: even like Bone Collector and White Chocolate went and went
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: through the combine, didn't get picked up. So they're keeping
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: it tight. They're keeping it like real.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get what he's trying to do. He's trying
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: to essentially set up a situation where you can extend
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: your career. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: He's trying to say, this's a Big Boy League, you know,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: top level competition. Still it's just like just below the NBA.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: When you're done, you go here.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, which I.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Respect, but yeah, I didn't want to do it. Just
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: to me, it didn't feel right, like I'm not gonna,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: you know, go to a team and be on the
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: bench the whole game or like because you know, when
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: you get into those like the personas are like how
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: the coach and the big three would look at it
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and how serious them dudes wanted championship.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: If I try to go Victorial legs and kick that out,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be mad, you know what I mean. It's
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: like we got to take him out.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, grit too, But I get some moves, I'll be
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: trying to do moves.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I'd be trying to turn it out. I mean, but
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: they're trying to get the crowd.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: What team would would be cool with that?
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: For sure? Maybe it's maybe, but as ice Cube cool?
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Who knows? I saw you did a video with Paul George, Like,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: how are your relationships with some of the guys in
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: the NBA nowadays? Like obviously you're a celebrity, celebrity, like
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: you know, outside of just being the OG and one guy.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, We're cool.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of guys are busy, right, so,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: like I don't necessarily hang with NBA players, but I
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: feel like I've met almost everybody you know, and every.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: It's just shows a lot of love.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: I show a lot of respect to those guys for
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: doing at the highest level. But Paul George is awesome.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I never met him before that day we shot that video.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: That shit's crazy. So did you did you did you
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: end up going to did you go to NBA con
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: at all? I was out there for Summer League.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't go to NBA can I should have.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Summer League's fucking fire. Had a great time. I love it,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: had a good time. I went to I went to
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: like Summer League. One of the one of the days.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: It was the day after women Yanna had his his Uh,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: it was like a slower day because my sons were
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: playing okay, and I just didn't do We were there
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: all day and like, man, everybody's just walking around, like everybody. Yeah,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: the players will get done playing and then walk around
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: the arena like.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I know you, I notice that, Like we left the
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: arena and then like dudes, who just played that game
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: right next to us?
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: And We're like, what the It's crazy. They didn't have
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: a VIP tunnel over here. Nah. And then they have
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: the two games going on like simultaneously because they kind
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: of have the two connected arenas. It's it's mine. I
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: told my my boy. I was like, next year, we're
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: gonna do like a week of this ship.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: That's what we did. I did about four days.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go out there. It's gonna be like our
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: All Star weekend. Because I'm a funk with All Star
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: week It's too much drama, you know what I'm saying.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I'm good, let me go to fucking it's crazy. Summer League.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. We go hang out, be a basketball geek.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: It's turning into the summertime.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: NBA though, it is.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: It's like a way for the NBA and everybody around
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: the NBA to exist. Yeah, for summer for a little bit.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: For two weeks. It's crazy, it is. It is two weeks.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: But it's really about that first like week.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we missed the wave, like my home here, he
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: was here, he was there, like when Winby was playing crazy.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: We came three days after and caught like the last weekend.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, it was still lit, but
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't like the first weekend.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: It's crazy because because a lot of those main draft picks,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: you know, they play a game or two and then
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: they get sat. You know, it's like and then they
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: got guys like what's what's the guy's named? Jabari Smith
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: on the Rockets was hooping?
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, oh huh.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Shout out to my sons. Yeah.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still good basketball regardless.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: When you go short. Well, look, man, obviously you got
• 46:27
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• 46:29
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• 46:32
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• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Professor live YouTube and Facebook, the Professor on everything else.
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  Speaker 2: List. We just launched a Snapchat show like two months
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: ago and like first.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Month boom it going off Snapchat to be confusing though.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: There's like the shows and there's the story, no idea, Yeah,
• 47:00
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• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have I don't have keep, I don't
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  Speaker 2: have Snapchat on my phone. Okay, yeah, I haven't had
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  Speaker 2: it on my phone for I don't even know how
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  Speaker 2: long they're gonna chop this up and then you know, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: let's go there it is man, the Professor. I appreciate you, buddy, Hey,
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