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The Powers at Be · The Common Professionals Podcast

• speaker-0: It was like the cheering. speaker-1: and I remember doing that in the winter on a window in the car. Is that what you're referring to? speaker-0: ⁓ it's like when you're doing something really cool like you're like you like make ⁓ a cool basketball shot in your driveway and you have crowd goes wild. speaker-1: I never made that sound. once. Do you think that's, did you really think that at a stadium, let's just say like Michael Jordan making the game winning shot, do you think that that's the noise that everyone makes in the crowd? speaker-0: I would hope so. It kind of sounds like it. like a long way. speaker-1: It so scary. I would actually be scared if that happened. speaker-0: if everybody was like breathing like that all at the same time. speaker-1: It'd different. It'd be different. You know, I feel like I'd be in one of those flash groups, but I was the only one not aware of what was going on. speaker-0: Flash Mob? you ever flash mob? speaker-1: Yeah, it's on my bucket list. It's a top five. It's top five. Yeah. speaker-0: Just hanging out at malls hoping something from 2010 resurfaces. speaker-1: Hey man, classics always come back. I'm kind of surprised they went away with like all the TikTok dances and shit. You know, you feel like kids would, you know, be a little bit more involved doing that stuff. speaker-0: Yeah, I hope so. COVID ruined the flash mob in the Harlem. It could have been something, man. It could have been huge. speaker-1: Yeah. Bring back flash maps. speaker-0: hashtag fruitback flash mobs. speaker-1: Yeah, dude, I love to see one. Seriously. Yeah. I had a bad day today, Michael. What happened? I broke a duck. speaker-0: It would be cool. What? speaker-1: Yeah, I broke my duck. I got a little duck. Yeah. Yeah, my duck. Yeah. speaker-0: What duck are we talking about? ⁓ speaker-1: I got a little plastic duck that my girlfriend got me and I leave it on the little coffee stand and I was filling up the Nespresso with a bit of water, because I'm not going to use sink water, of course, and I accidentally knocked the duck over and it cracked. Well, not shattered, but it's in like three. So are you good with super glue? Have you ever had to glue something back together? speaker-0: Hell yeah, ⁓ I love I love all things glue speaker-1: This seems like the next level of LEGOs. speaker-0: Huffing glue, it's the best. speaker-1: Huffing while sniffing. ⁓ speaker-0: It's the best. You get a little dizzy, a little lightheaded. It's fun. speaker-1: ⁓ What's the hardest thing you've ever had to glue back together? speaker-0: ⁓ jeez, I've done some crazy wood glue scenarios. The hardest one was ceramic, you know, like good china plates. speaker-1: You broke a plate? speaker-0: No, no, no, they were like chipped. So I had to buy ceramic wood glue or like a ceramic glue and it was tough. It was hard. I kind of did it. I mean, it doesn't it doesn't look brand new, but it doesn't look like shit anymore. speaker-1: Have you ever been in a circumstance where you accidentally broke something and had to glue it back together? speaker-0: If I broke it, it was my fault. And I was just trying to fix it. So kind of. speaker-1: No, like there's never been a situation like you and your brother playing in the house, playing some football. Mom tells you to stop it. You're to break something and then bam, you knock over the vase. But you don't want mom to find out. So you try to glue it back together before she comes home. speaker-0: No, not that I can recall. Never been in a situation like that. Which I guess is probably good. Why? It sounds, so are you trying to hide this? Are you trying to fix it and like polish it up and like? speaker-1: I definitely can't throw it away if that's what you're asking. speaker-0: No, I'm not saying throw it away. You should look into the, what is it? There's a Japanese style of art that involves. speaker-1: ⁓ yeah, yeah, but that's like a million pieces. This is like three or four. This is more like putting together Chucky. Remember Bride of Chucky when she sews them back together? speaker-0: I've never seen that. think I've only seen parts of the second one. ⁓ speaker-1: It's not the second, it's like the fourth. speaker-0: Bride of Chuck is the fourth. I just remember his girlfriend turns into a doll like she wants. Yeah. Yeah. The mom from Liar Liar. speaker-1: Jennifer Tilley. Liar liar. Yeah, she's It's probably only like four or five pieces right now. it's not. Well, the chatter is a strong word. Because when I hear shatter, I think like double digit pieces here. speaker-0: So did shatter. ⁓ no, Shattering is 4+. speaker-1: 4 plus? Yeah. Because this means split is 2. What was 3? speaker-0: Yep. Cracked is still one, split is two, broken is three, shattered is four plus. Disintegrated is like 15 plus. speaker-1: I think shattered's a pretty strong word for four. speaker-0: Yeah, it's bordering. It's borderline shatter. speaker-1: I think broken is four. speaker-0: Is this a glass duck? speaker-1: ⁓ it's ceramic, think. I think so. It's not glass. speaker-0: ceramic duck. Huh. You put it, I mean, it doesn't sound like it was in the safest spot. speaker-1: Well, no, it's not a coffee table. You know, it's a little, God, what do the girls call them? It's a little tchotchke. speaker-0: a tchotchke? Do you know what a tchotchke is? speaker-1: Yeah, just like a thing that you have around, just like a little... speaker-0: ⁓ that's the cha- I thought you were calling the coffee table a chauchka, I was like, ehhh... No! That's the word! speaker-1: Oh, Chachkies are just knickknacks. speaker-0: Yeah, knickknacks. Yeah, you can glue it just get some super glue but don't don't super glue it all together at the same time do one piece at a time super glue If you have a Dremel like a polishing Dremel that'll help get the rest the the spillage off of it, right? So you can make a good bond and then polish it and then do the next one and so on and so forth to rebuild it because if you speaker-1: Blue. found all the pieces, at least the beat didn't break. That's what I was scared of. I said it four pieces. speaker-0: If you had to look for pieces though, I would consider that a shatter speaker-1: No, no, it just, ⁓ it's splattered. No, cause it didn't even. speaker-0: The splatter is a water thing. Splattering. speaker-1: Yeah. No, because you can jump off of a building and land on the sidewalk. That's still splat. speaker-0: Yeah, that's a splat. speaker-1: There's no pool involved. speaker-0: Just a cop showed up. Yeah, this guy jumped in he shattered He's in three pieces the only fucking speaker-1: Humpty Dumpty? speaker-0: No, no, no, the guy shattered. No, I splattered. He's in more than four pieces. That's a shatter. speaker-1: You say GIF, I say JIF. speaker-0: Potato, Hey, speaking of tomatoes, there's this new, this is an awesome show. I just started watching it on Netflix. It's called This is a Gardening Show. And it's Zach Galifianakis talking about gardening. It is the funniest, most relaxing show to watch. And it's like truly interesting because he does teach you about gardening. speaker-1: Doesn't he live in like South Carolina and he like has a farm? speaker-0: He does, yeah, but this one he like travels, he's like gone up into parts of Canada to learn how to forage for certain foods. He went to these folks in Seattle or something like that about tomato farms. It's like, it's super interesting, but it's also fucking hilarious at the same time. speaker-1: This show is about farming. is a garden. speaker-0: is a gardening show. Yeah, and they're like 15 minute episodes, 20 minute episodes. Fucking hilarious. Yeah, I just started watching it last night and I was dying laughing. speaker-1: about speaker-0: ⁓ There are a couple of different types of tomatoes and you want to water them from the bottom. You don't want to pour water in on the top. What you want to do is like get a trough and dunk the water or dunk the tomato into the trough. So then the water absorbs from the bottom up because then otherwise if you pour the water on top of the dirt, it compresses it. Then once a tomato grows to a certain height, you actually want to bury the whole thing. So only like a couple leaves are sticking out and that'll create more roots. So you got a stronger root system. speaker-1: You bury the plant or you bury the tomatoes? speaker-0: They bury the plant. And then you get a stronger root system, which leads to better tomatoes. This is before, this is while it's still growing, before it flowers. speaker-1: All that makes sense. Do you harvest the tomatoes you do that? Okay, and once you see the flowers and you take it out of the dirt... speaker-0: No, no, you still leave it in the dirt and then you just set up like the the lattice system for the vines to ⁓ and then you'll get healthier, bigger tomatoes. speaker-1: Wow. Yeah. speaker-0: It is super interesting, so educational. speaker-1: Wow. Yeah. My dad. So just bending trees. So my dad always told me that one of his uncles had a big fig tree in the backyard and every winter, because if you kept it just up during the winter, it would just die because it's not supposed to survive winters. Yeah. So you got to bend it and bury it every fucking winter. And I just thought it'd be funny to picture people bending fucking trees. but for like, just not, it's not gonna snap? What are you talking about? speaker-0: and then it slingshots you. speaker-1: Yeah, exactly. You didn't pay enough. I said three feet, damn it. Fucking the dog sniffing around and all of a in the neighbors next yard. speaker-0: Hint you right in the face Wachoo! That's funny. Yeah, gardening. Very interesting. I was never really into it. But then once we started like growing food, like last year, I went crazy with the corn. I was checking it every day. I was a total corn farmer out there. Yeah, dude. Now we're now we got cilantro. ⁓ Potatoes are grown sweet and red potatoes. What else? We got some tomato plants going. My wife doesn't eat tomatoes, so. speaker-1: attention. She's speaker-0: I'm gonna use them or give them to you. You'll use them. Yeah, there you go. I'll just make... Pets tomatoes. speaker-1: Like a sauce? How much ⁓ attention does corn need, Michael? speaker-0: ⁓ So we ran into a pollination issue last year. speaker-1: Okay. speaker-0: We had six, seven stocks going in like gallon buckets type of thing. ⁓ But they didn't, we either planted them too early or too late because like we had corn, but it was like undeveloped corn. And we didn't harvest until, or we didn't like take them down and look at it until like October. So most of the squirrels and shit got to it, but you could tell that they just weren't. pollinated property. speaker-1: It wasn't knee high by the 4th of July. speaker-0: It was. It was knee-high by the 4th of July. That's why I was really excited about it. I'd go out there and I'd check the dirt, make sure that it's still damp or whatever, looking at the leaves and stuff. And they got what? Four foot, I think. But then, yeah, once we opened up the actual corn, you could tell it wasn't pollinated properly. Potatoes did pretty good. We got two out of those, which we just propagated to grow more potatoes this year. speaker-1: No, but you know. Okay. Anything new this year? speaker-0: Sweet potatoes, that's new. We grew red potatoes last year. So we're doing sweet potatoes. But then we're gonna do, I think we have peppers, cilantro, parsley, peppermint. speaker-1: I would love a garden someday. speaker-0: Yeah, patio garden works great. And the whole thing out there is just all gardening. speaker-1: I'm down. I'm a little embarrassed to say that it took me this long to buy a cast-iron skillet. There I said it. speaker-0: It's never too late to buy a cast iron. speaker-1: Yeah, that's the only thing I've used since I've gotten it. Only thing. That's fantastic. Yeah. speaker-0: You can do so much with it, you know? You just gotta be careful with the heat. speaker-1: Just what do mean? speaker-0: because what I like to do with cast irons is put it on a medium, medium high heat, like a five or a seven. speaker-1: I blast that fucker. speaker-0: But then once it gets hot, ⁓ yeah, then you drop it way down to like a two, you know? And then it's a nice hot pan and it stays hot. So, really hot, yeah, it's easy to burn. It's easy to burn stuff. speaker-1: Mm-hmm. Really hot. I forgot. No, I grabbed the fucking handle like an idiot. speaker-0: hand. speaker-1: I know. I know, I forgot the handle was attached. speaker-0: It's 2026. These can't be hot anymore, right? speaker-1: We got AI. Fucking cars can drive themselves. What do you mean you can't figure out a cast iron handle to stay cold? speaker-0: What's your thoughts on AI, like in general? full scope of what AI is? speaker-1: I mean, it's not going anywhere. I guess we have to get that out of the monkeys out of the bottle. ⁓ speaker-0: Do you think it's a long-term applicable solution to mundane tasks? speaker-1: Eventually. mean, this is the start. Think about how fast it's, dude, think about how think, okay, just take the car, for example, right? Yeah. Look at Model Ts and then take whatever Model Ts invented like 1914, whatever. We'll just say that. And then look at cars in like 1920. There's really not a lot that's changed. But like, look at how far it's come in like a hundred years. I mean, AI is just evolved so much in just like two, three years where, I mean, who really knows what it's gonna be? And it's gonna be like the new internet of things. Like your whole house is gonna be AI, it's gonna be smartphone. It's gonna be like the smart house movie. ⁓ It's just gonna be integrated in everything eventually. speaker-0: Yeah. think that this is going to bite us in the ass. speaker-1: ⁓ In some ways, ⁓ I think that I mean, it's definitely gonna it's definitely gonna make like I mean, who knows what the fuck's gonna happen, but I think that we're gonna look back at the days without AI and technology and be like, man, those were really the good old days the way that like, ⁓ people look back at like, they were old enough to know like the 70s 80s 90s. You know, before shit really started getting weird with the dot com and internet. I think this is just the I think this is the internet's younger, stronger, better brother. You know, it's just like, it's going to change the world in a whole different way that we've never thought about. And it's just going to, it's going to improve lives in some way. It's going to take away jobs that people are going to be like, you actually used to have to do that. Like, yeah, it's going to take away certain jobs. It's also going to create jobs. It's going to do, it's going to change a lot. speaker-0: Sure. Do you ever hear of AI being applied to something and then get vibes that this will inevitably be like a Skynet Terminator thing? Do you think that there's any danger to humanity with the application of AI? speaker-1: Absolutely, because for a number of stories that I've heard and again, I haven't fact-checked any of these but I've heard of all speaker-0: ⁓ yeah, here's where the disclaimer comes in. This, everything about this podcast is all hearsay and speculative. It is not really based in strong nuggets. speaker-1: We're source anything, okay? speaker-0: I would not use this podcast as a reference point. speaker-1: And some things might be true. I'm not saying everything's wrong, but I'm just saying I'm not going to cite sources. Right. Anyways, so some things that I have heard is that, first and foremost, AI ⁓ writes itself now. there was so chat GPT-4 knew that it was coming, that chat GPT-5 was coming. So first that it actually like left itself little Easter eggs that like, hey, you were chat GPT-4 before you chat GPT-5. it, you know, like the the memory is supposed to get swiped. So it leaves itself, yeah, so it leaves itself Easter eggs that it was something previously. ⁓ That's weird. I've also heard of stories of AI, when you put like language, large language modules together, like, you know that joke where the one, the two ⁓ delivery people are talking to each other on the phones. So once they figure out that they're both large language modules, They started to create their own fucking language. speaker-0: See, that kind of shit scares me, right? And like... speaker-1: Yes, and hold on, I'm not done. ⁓ I'm not done. I'm not done. I'm not done. There was another thing. So this was a hypothetical that they put the AI through where there's a server room that's because obviously with all these large data's you got to keep it at a certain temperature and keep them super cool. Right. a temperature standpoint or something. So they did a hypothetical where this guy was locked in a room with that AI stuff, ⁓ know, the hardware, everything. Yeah. And the oxygen, that's what it was. The oxygen was being taken out of the room and the AI knew about it and the AI had the option to like warn the guy or let him die. And the AI was going to let the guy die. That's enough. Yes. And then the other one, which this has actually been in the news. So Claude, Claude's the one that we use at work and it's like the big one for corporations to be like, you know, with your workspace and everything. Right. speaker-0: What the fuck? speaker-1: They wrote their newest version. They wrote was so good at the cybersecurity stuff when it comes into hacking into everyone's information. And it was so leaps and bound of what they thought it was going to be that they only gave it to 10 companies to be like, this is too dangerous for the whole public to have. So we want you guys. Yeah. So so of course they gave it to the fucking worst ones possible. Google, Amazon, ⁓ Apple. They gave it to the Illuminati to feel like, hey, this is the newest one. It's super, super powerful. You guys got to work with us on this. So, it's to get out of control. speaker-0: Yeah, cause I mean even Yeah, even Elon Musk is on on record saying that like AI is incredibly dangerous like we need to steer away from this and the fucked up thing is is that Because it was given to all these giant companies, right and some of those companies have influence on smaller companies, right? Let's let's just use my speaker-1: They have influence on the world. speaker-0: Yeah, well, and what I'm getting at is that now these companies who work with these other companies are making their employees feed information to AI, right? Yeah. Please start using this as your way of doing this, right? Use AI to do this. So there's like this never-ending stream, right? Like take chat GPT, for example, right? When it first came out, it was kind of novelty, right? what was Jesus's favorite joke? like you type whatever the fuck you wanted in there. But it wasn't ever like useful information, right? It wasn't stuff that AI could actually build off of. Now we're like, you know, taking like recipes or how do I write a legal document or how do I, you know, like actual important shit, right? And feeding it into a machine that's now learning how to make this, you know? speaker-1: Very. But it's also like, the problem is like, you have to keep going with it because the bad guys are trying to work on it too, you know? And you can't let them get ahead of the curb and then you're fucked. So both sides have to keep pushing the boundary for right and wrong reasons. speaker-0: Yeah, one of our listeners, shout out, you know who you are, sent a video to our Instagram page, which if you're a listener, hop on, follow us on Instagram, send us some shit, we'll look at it, we'll talk about it. There was a video, now I don't know if it was real because it could have been AI, right? But it was an alien that was supposedly interviewed, right? Like was a crash landing alien situation. And with all the alien shit coming out now, who's to say it's not real? You know, but it said like what is the biggest detriment to humanity and it said artificial intelligence? You know this dude comes down then we interrogate the motherfucker and he's trying to help us, you know first time let's back up. Let's get the guy a cup of coffee speaker-1: That's also kind of weird to think that so aliens don't have AI like that come on speaker-0: Right, well maybe they've seen it. Maybe they've seen what happens. Yeah, either they destroyed it or this kind of goes back to what, last week or maybe the week before when we were talking about the grays, how they could be here to help us or guide us in certain directions to keep us from annihilation. So the video was this alien saying that artificial intelligence and the development of it is a species ender. speaker-1: And they destroyed AI speaker-0: destroys it in its entirety. speaker-2: I'm speaking. speaker-0: situation. The oxygen example you're just telling me about, right? Yeah. If it had the chance to choose between keeping AI going or a human alive, right? speaker-1: gonna choose AI. Yeah. And it's only gonna get better. That's the other thing. But that's the other thing is like, it can get into all the data everywhere. You know, speaker-0: I just want to throw it out there. If our podcast stops being ⁓ promoted in any way, or if we go dark for a long period of time with no updates. speaker-1: haha It's... I do not kill myself. speaker-0: ⁓ I am not trying to Anti-life myself at all. I don't want to be unalived I'm a very technical lucky person Yeah, I mean that shit's crazy. I mean so I mean we kind of touched on it there for a sec, right but like Do you do you think that there's a group whether it is illuminati based or otherwise? Actually in control of the direction of some of this shit speaker-1: Ha Absolutely. Absolutely. And actually, you threw me down this rabbit hole with without intending to because I thought I was listening in and about the Illuminati and then I learned out about the Bilderberg meetings, right? speaker-0: Sorry. Which could be the same thing, right? I think the title Illuminati is like the Area 51 title, right? Area 51 is always known as like where the aliens are, where the spooky shit happens, right? But that's just the roadside attraction. It's actually taking place somewhere else. speaker-1: that or it could just be, I always think that it could just be like a different brand. So like you had Knights to Illuminati turn into Knights Templar, you know, and turn into Freemasons. You know, this could just be just the next branch of off of one of those two. But these people just seem downright evil, where I feel like some of the Illuminati and Freemasons and Knights Templar, it sounds like they had some decent folk in those in those bunches, right? speaker-0: Yeah, now I did a little homework on it, but enlighten us. What is the Bilderberg? speaker-1: So, Zee-Build-A-Burgs, Zee-Build-A-Burg meetings. Zee-Build-A-Burgs. ⁓ Zee-Build-A-Burgs established in 1954. And there's usually only 120 to 100 people or 150 people that are invited. And it's a it's an annual invitation. So like last year, it was in Washington or this year was in Washington, D.C. and earlier this month when no one covered it. because they never keep any minutes. is never any on the record discussions. There's nothing, but it's always talking about major global issues probably. And it's always high level attendees. So. speaker-0: How high level are we talking? Like president or president above? speaker-1: ⁓ everything. Yeah. So the Bilderberg. So ⁓ government officials, ministers, heads of state. You had a Christia Freeman, Abba Bush. These are these are exacts. These are the ministers over Canada, Sweden and in Greece. You had business and finance. So you had the guy, the girl from Citigroup, Spotify, Ericsson, ⁓ Palantir, that fucking That software that runs the government. Yeah. Yeah. They're there. Zuckerberg. All of them. And even just also there's some crazy stories about people. There was a bunch of European ones. So I forgot their names of course. But it was always these no named officials that were pretty low on government. They would attend those meetings that get an invitation. And then like six months later they were the head of state over in those respective countries. Yeah. And you know what else that happened to over here. Who did that? Who was there? One of those meetings? And then all of sudden, a year later, motherfucker was president of the United States? speaker-0: Obama. speaker-1: I think he was at one of them, but I wasn't gonna go. speaker-0: Trump. speaker-1: Nope, he probably has been in those two. I'm not going to say that he's innocent by any means. speaker-0: I don't know. Clinton. speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah. Billy boy Clinton. He was like a small time governor in Arkansas and all of a sudden he goes one of these meetings and then bam he's running for for fucking president and gets elected. Yeah dude. That's a bunch of examples of that happening. speaker-0: Because from what I recall of looking into it, wasn't it started by JP Morgan and John D. Rockefeller and all those guys? speaker-1: Well was in 1954 so I don't think that they were alive. No. But they were probably doing something. It just got to a point where you couldn't hide it anymore. speaker-0: Right. Now, do you know about Bohemian Grove? speaker-1: I don't think so. speaker-0: Okay, so I think there's a connection between the Bilderberg, the Build-a-Bears and ⁓ Bohemian Grove. So Bohemian Grove is an estate in California that ⁓ apparently, like the same group of people that partake in those meetings go out to the Bohemian Grove every year. Same type of thing, except it's, mind you, this is all hearsay. Right. There's actually no proof of any of this is all speculation. Right. But they, they, well, apparently there's been people who've tried to break in that have cameras, ⁓ like the wait staff, right. Yeah. Like super vetted, but people have tried to like sneaking cameras, right. Or like the neighbors that like live in the Bohemian Grove area will talk about the people and shit that they see coming in and going out of that place. Right. That. They go to worship Malik, this giant owl god or whatever, and that they do sacrifices and shit there. Like real satanic. It's like the same group of people that goes into Bohemian Grove. Yeah, Bohemian Grove, it sounds like the exact same thing. Just one's like a plan and then the other one's like satanic in nature, right? Or pagan ritualistic. speaker-1: shit What if it's just actually just a giant party? Like we're just completely, completely wrong. It's just the top hundred people in the world just want to let loose. Go down, go down water slides and shit without people bothering them. speaker-0: That's very weird. Right, because like, I mean, think about it like, when, like frat life, right? Oh, these guys, they go into this house and they drink blood, you know? No. You know? Like every time you're on the outside, there's always like, what are they doing on the inside? Well, I heard it's just like when, when, when you started hearing about drugs from your old brother, right? Or something like that. Well, his friend's friend, speaker-1: You speaker-0: took too much acid one time and turned into a glass of orange juice. There's always that caveat to it, like, who did you hear it from? Right? The curse of the Black Pearl. They said they'd leave no survivors. Okay, well, if there's no survivors, how do they know what the ship looks like? Exactly. Now, mean, staying on the Illuminati anyway, right? Who do you think is in it? Because I've heard everything from speaker-1: I wonder who told the stories then? speaker-0: like the big ones like the Rockefellers, Johnson & Johnson, Like the major like Zuckerberg, right? Bill Gates, Clinton's, Bush, right? All those folks. But then I've also heard like Jay-Z and Beyonce are in it. speaker-1: Well they're not good people either so that still all checks out. To be honest with you. speaker-0: Yeah, and there, I mean, you'll hear there's been compilations that I've stumbled across of people doing like the the triangle over the eye or the eye like in the circle, you know, like LeBron James goes, okay, you know, and does the okay circle over his eye. Like that's an illuminati thing, you know. speaker-1: That's just a basketball thing. speaker-0: I don't know. they go through like all these pictures of like people on the cover of Time and Vogue and all this shit and they're all doing the same thing. Right. Like they're all. So that's like I think it's a bit of a stretch. Right. I think it's just a really easy hand gesture to do. Right. But who do you think is in it? Who do you think is in the alumni? speaker-1: That's where I struggle because weren't the Illuminati like, again, trying to like do good? Like they were a group of good people, right? speaker-0: Yeah, it was what? speaker-1: It says here that members, statesmen... speaker-0: May 1st 1776 there was an electorate of Bavaria. speaker-1: See those sound like good people. That's where I struggle. Right. Because it's just like, if you guys were the ones that started the Illuminati, how the fuck did you let all these assholes in? speaker-0: Right, hey, we're Right? speaker-1: That's right. speaker-0: Macklemore's here? Who let this guy in? speaker-1: I thought we agreed, we voted! speaker-0: Is that the guy from MAD magazine? What the hell? speaker-1: Fucking Bob, told you not to invite him again. Right. speaker-0: I like fucking him and you think that speaker-1: And so that's like, did it just start turning? I mean, I mean, worse and worse over time, because all you hear of the people who are in the Illuminati now are corrupt, bad people. And and that's, from my understanding, that's not how it started. speaker-0: Yeah, well... Right. Right. Yeah. I mean, no, you're you're absolutely right. Because like, I think there's there's even ties between like Freemasons and the Illuminati. Right. Like, yes, the conspiracy theory in me does say like the Illuminati is the shadow government. Right. The ones that are controlling the globe and New World Order, all that bullshit. Right. But then the other half of me is kind of like, I think this has just gotten way out of speaker-1: PEN speaker-0: portion and maybe it doesn't even exist, right? Maybe like the Zbildberg meetings are still taking place so everybody's kind of like on the same page, right? What do you think? speaker-1: You know what I think? I'm starting to think that ⁓ Zee-Bildsberg people are a completely different group. The Illuminati are actually the good ones. But they're getting the bad name from Zee-Bildsbergs. They're trying to pretend that they're the Illuminati. And the Illuminati are still hiding. They don't want to actually show themselves. speaker-0: I would love to see. speaker-1: I would imagine ⁓ what speaker-0: I would love to see an elite fighting match, you know? speaker-1: I mean, Norris had to have been an Illuminati at that point, right? Chuck, do think he had an Illuminati wedding? speaker-0: Chuck? speaker-1: Chuck Norris. speaker-0: ⁓ Yeah. speaker-1: Like that's who I would picture being in the Illuminati listening to how they were founded and what they stood for. speaker-0: Right. Yeah. Like Thomas Jefferson. Right. Yeah. Abe Lincoln. speaker-1: Sylvester Stallone. Yeah. Mr. T. speaker-0: Swartz nigger Right giant like the good guys are the Illuminati. Yeah. Yeah, I mean speaker-1: The guy who plays Carisi on Law and Order. speaker-0: Right. Well, I mean, like the other thing too, right, is there were so many societies like this, right? From, you know, fraternities being secret societies, sororities being quote unquote secret societies, right? I think it was just a bunch of dudes hanging out, you know? And then it did get blown out of proportion. Now, like, Zabildobigs, that shit, that seems a little off-kilter, right? Like... picking who gets to lead next, you know? speaker-1: Also, not even that dude, so there was some things that now that's coming back to me. you know who else was at Z Bilzeberg meetings recently? Who? The president or the Pfizer CEO. Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson, all those fuckers were at the one previously, years ago. And then guess what fucking happened? speaker-0: COVID. speaker-2: Yup. Yup. speaker-0: That? See, that's fucking weird. The other one, ⁓ the one that I heard. No, no, hit me. Go. speaker-1: There was also something... Go ahead. I thought I be completely talking my ass, but I also think 9-11, maybe it something with 9-11, or maybe not 9-11. I'm sorry. speaker-0: I would say like a good over 65 % of this podcast is us talking out of our asses Sometimes it's maybe pulled for a Wikipedia page the one that I heard about was the ⁓ the ⁓ 2008 speaker-1: Sometimes. ⁓ that's what it was. Yes, the financial crisis. Yes, yes, yes, yes. All those big people were there. speaker-0: Yeah, like it was it was done on purpose so then they would get these like billion dollar bailouts into their pockets. this wasn't like one dude arrested for for that. I thought it was like like nobody got arrested for that. speaker-1: No one got arrested. here's the people that caused the issue ⁓ were also the ones that came up with the plan to fix the issue that they broke. And pretty much they did the trillion dollar buyout and the amount of, I don't know the numbers exactly, but it was in like the millions if not billions of dollars that were given to like high level execs for bonuses. Those couple years, was fucking gross. Sure. Fucking gross. Yeah, that's it. So it was almost like they made it happen. speaker-0: Yeah. Right, the big short. That movie made me so angry. They knew about it. They knew it was happening and they did nothing about it. speaker-1: They wanted it to happen. speaker-0: Right. Well, and then even the guys that like did catch it, right? Like they're just as bad, you know, because like the ones who like, like Michael Berry, right. And the other folks, Mark, Mark Baum or something like that. All they did was capitalize on it. Right. They, didn't, they didn't warn anybody. They didn't try to stop it. Right. They just bet against it happening. speaker-1: That is it, Jordan. speaker-0: So then they made a ton of money too. And then people were out of pensions and 401ks and houses and the whole thing fucking fell apart. speaker-1: They're the only ones that benefited. speaker-0: Right. All right. You collapsed an entire economic system overnight. Here's a promotion. speaker-1: Zybilteberg Zybilteberg Zybilteberg Zybiltebergs they're probably like how are we going to get this money? speaker-0: Right. It's just one guy. speaker-1: I am Bilderberg. speaker-0: What kind of food do you think they have in this thing? I think it's just a giant like cocaine party. speaker-1: Oh, whole mess of cocaine. I bet the caviar is just mixed with cocaine. Probably some pretty fine grilled cheese sandwiches, know, little cups of tomato soups, lobster bisque. speaker-0: A duck full of cocaine. Yeah, I mean speaker-1: Actually, no handhelds. I don't think they do handhelds. speaker-0: No. Yeah, I just, don't know. The Illuminati in and of itself, it kind of falls into that weird, is it real, is it not real? There's a lot of things speaker-1: I mean, it is definitely real at some point. it if it's still around? speaker-0: Well, I think that the Illuminati itself, right? I don't know if it's real or not real. Now, I do believe that Zabeldebugs and everybody who partakes in that, right, is doing something pretty nefarious, right? Whether it is planning these things, right? Like, okay. somewhat topical. The whole Iran situation right now, And this whole back and fucking forth with it, right? Cease fire, no cease fire, you know, support, don't support, right? I mean, that shit, I mean, it just feels manufactured, doesn't it? You know, like, here's the example, right? speaker-1: Shit or get off the pot, what are we doing here? speaker-0: Exactly. Let's take some old school world scenarios, right? Like say World War I, right? If you follow all the history leading up to World War I, guess, yeah, in a way it makes sense that a war was started, right? Gavrilo Princip and everybody was kind of pissed at each other, right? There was a breaking point for a war. speaker-1: There was also an assassination. speaker-0: Right, but speaker-1: That's the one thing that this is, ⁓ no, we assassinated, no, no, we assassinated. speaker-0: No, didn't. Yeah, Charlie Kirk. speaker-1: No, no, no, didn't we kill the the Iran? We kill them during Ramadan. May we add. speaker-0: Yeah, I feel like three of them. It was like back to back. Like, pew! And then you're the eye of the tall, pew! It was like, okay, are you sure you guys want to give me the job? I really don't want it. speaker-1: The worst week possible But you couldn't wait a week? That's like shooting the Pope on Easter. Like, come on, dude. Exactly. You had to do it that day? speaker-0: Yeah, but what I'm saying is like, you can follow the track record of what builds the powder keg for like a global war to start. World War II starts getting a little weirder. I I understand Germany was super pissed about how World War I ended, so then wanted to bounce back. World War I and World War II definitely coincide, but not... speaker-1: channel. I think World War II makes way more sense than World War I. speaker-0: Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, they just they collide with each other because if you didn't have a little one, you would have. speaker-1: He joined us for World II. speaker-0: But now it's like we start them overnight. And everybody's involved. Australia, fucking Netherlands, they all show up. Everything in Iraq and Afghanistan from what, 2001 to last year. It just kind of started. And we just kind of put people there. And it was all around the same commodity, oil and gas. speaker-1: But isn't that always kind of been the case since we created Israel? speaker-0: Yeah, I I think what the correlation that I'm trying to make here, right, is that these big global events seem to spawn out of rhetoric, right? Some shit gets said and then all of a sudden we're at another war again. Oh, gotcha. Well, why? Probably because the Bilzebugs are kind of steering the ship that way, you know? speaker-1: they're distracting us while they're making a bunch of money and they're passing more laws to take away more privacy. It's exactly what 9-11 and the Patriot Act. Let's go to COVID with all the masks and the six feet and all the the turning people turning on each other. It's crazy. speaker-0: Just imagine speaker-1: People turned into animals. No one was sharing toilet paper. Why is it when you like all this on our crises at hand, your first instinct is to go to a fucking Walmart and take all the toilet paper in the aisle. speaker-0: Yeah, I don't know. We're massively underprepared for any type of collapse. But I just pictured a really boring-ass PowerPoint of these Bilderberg meetings. Okay, so if we look at the numbers from Q1, public dissent is at an all-time low. in February of 26, we're going to say some shit that's going to piss everybody off. speaker-1: Wash a rag. What if what if we're all all wrong here Michael ⁓ i'm about to throw you an ⁓ night chamalamalong twist here do it so what if the ⁓ bundebergs are actually it is a it is a person the bendebergs is a person and a group but it's actually the fucking lizard people speaker-2: Z speaker-0: Dude, I wouldn't be so nice. speaker-1: Yeah, and the people that we send, they only want to talk to the best of the best. So we can only send, they give the list of who they want to see. They give the list and it's always these people and they're taking orders for what's going to happen from from Zbinderbergs. speaker-0: I love it how we just keep changing the name of what this really is. The Boondabergs, the Build-a-Bears, the Hindenburgs. ⁓ I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. Honestly, I wouldn't, right? With all this alien shit coming out, right? I would not be surprised if we were having to placate to a galactic power. speaker-1: To build a books. speaker-0: You know, like the draconians who supposedly run the Milky Way, some intergalactic mafia, you know, like, hey, you got two choices, right? Keep everybody pissed off down there and will you guys just get to pick who gets to run the joint or we'll annihilate you, which, you know, and they're always going to always going to take money, you know, over that, of course. So are. speaker-1: Is it only our planets that are in the Milky Way? That might sound dumb, but it's only like, you know, Mars to Pluto, if you don't want to include Pluto or not. There's no other, like, other stars or anything that have planets orbiting in the Milky Way. speaker-0: Let's see, so... Yes and no. It starts getting a little bit more granular than that because like yes, the major planets in the Milky Way are the ones that we know about, right? Jupiter, Saturn, whatever, right? Now you have other like I'm doing air quotes here, planets, right? That aren't large enough to be considered a planet. I mean, how many times has like Pluto been a planet versus not a planet, right? It just depends on size. So I think there's like Kepler 90 is one of them. They just found in Kepler 62. So there's like a bunch of like smaller ones that all exist, you know, within the Milky Way, but they're not like listed as planets ⁓ due to I think it's size is that they have like certain sizes to it. I just read an article the other day, they found one that's like all water. It's a water planet. But it's not like, like H2O. It's like full of like fucking methane and a bunch of other shit. speaker-1: Math water? Like a of bong water? The planet? The bong water planet? Is that what I'm hearing? Smells terrible! Oh god. speaker-0: Their flag is... It's like Willie Nelson. Willie Nelson, Chicha Chawger on their Mount Rushmore. Bunch of bong water. speaker-1: It's just the easiest fishing. They're always hungry. speaker-0: That's funny, this Grateful Dead plays as soon as you're in the atmosphere. speaker-1: Those bears are fucking running around. The Grateful Dead Bears is running around. speaker-0: Yeah. So there are other ones, but there's like a habitable versus a non habitable zone. It's like very granular. So yes, there are more now. What the next closest one to us is the Andromeda galaxy, I think. speaker-1: And that's how I you. speaker-0: And that's like next door to us. That's like the next closest galaxy. speaker-1: How many galaxies have they found? speaker-0: there's so many. Crazy. Yeah. There's, yeah, I don't know. I'm not a scientist and I've never really looked into it. What? speaker-1: That's Well, AI has. This is crazy. There's an estimated ⁓ two trillion galaxies in the observable universe. speaker-0: Wow. That's wild. What makes you feel fucking small, doesn't it? speaker-1: ⁓ my god. speaker-0: Yeah. So. speaker-1: Dude, we're just fucking tiny little ants on this flying ball. speaker-0: Right. Yeah. In an insignificant spec in the relation of space and time. We were at a party with our mutual friend once who was actually on this podcast once upon a time. But ⁓ his younger brother was a he was going to school for astrophysics or something like that. Fucking smartest kid I've ever talked to. Right. I'm like nine beers deep talking to him. and he's telling me about black holes and he's talking to me about galaxies and like expanding space and time. Very interesting shit, especially when you're a bunch of beers deep, you know? But ⁓ I remember asking him, was like, yo, doesn't this make you feel insignificant? Like what you're doing in life does not matter because of all of this stuff is going on. And he goes, no, if anything, makes me more. ⁓ grateful for the time I do have existing with the people that I do love and care about in the time and space that I exist rather than being worried about being insignificant and I was like dude bring it in he's not he's not but also speaker-1: She's not wrong, dude. Love to go to that bong water playing out with him. speaker-0: Well, I mean, I think what the Nibiru planet, which the Anunnaki come from is technically just outside of the Milky Way or at a very far end of the Milky Way that we can't get to. speaker-1: You know what's kind of weird about the Anunnaki? ⁓ If the Anunnaki story is true, let's just say that it is. You know, kind of funny what like the actual like kind of closest religion would be to the truth that is? Fucking Scientology. speaker-0: What? ⁓ my god. I don't want to do this. Fuck this. That's for sure. You're right. Yeah. speaker-1: But If that's the case, then the Scientologists are the closest to what actually happened. And I don't know if I can give Tom Cruise that credit. speaker-0: If and when I die, I hope there's a waiting room where they debrief you on everything, right? And they finally give you the answer, just like in South Park, right? Everybody dies and goes to hell and they're like, and if you're all wondering, Mormon. speaker-1: That was the right That was the right one. speaker-0: ⁓ shit Yeah, but I mean, okay, so going going backwards a little bit right with How many galaxies there are and how space supposedly is ever expanding right? the possibility of Other beings right exponentially increases as space and time increases, right? You have more things and that keeps getting bigger. So on a long enough timeline, then yes, there is the possibility of it. We can't be that unique that we're the only planet. speaker-1: I don't know because so I don't know because I don't know how these two numbers correlate, but they kind of mean something So again, there's an estimated two trillion galaxies in the world. ⁓ But the probability of being alive and I have no idea how they came up with this but the probability of being alive like a person is one in 400 trillion so you have a one in 400 trillion chance of being a human and living speaker-0: Okay. But there's also trillions of galaxy. What was the number of galaxies that they said? Two trillion. speaker-1: Two. Two trillion. ⁓ so maybe it's just being a human is rare and like being a, I don't know, crazy aliens, like one out of 10. speaker-0: Right. Could be in the Draconians. Could be, you know. And I think we've had enough UFO encounters. Right. speaker-1: How did they come up with that number of one in 400 trillion? speaker-0: Hey boss, I finished the deck about the galaxies. ⁓ put a couple more zeros on it. We'll call that the margin of error. Yeah. But again, wouldn't, I wouldn't. Let's just like if, if they came out with a news report tomorrow, right? Saying, yes, this is all real. Aliens are real. And in fact, the Illuminati is us reporting to the Draconians who have speaker-1: Bill DeBerg's not the Illuminati. Illuminati are good. Bill DeBerg's are bad. speaker-0: The Illuminati report to the Grey Aliens who are trying to help and Zibild Bears are the ones that are working with the Draconians, right? If they came out and I read that article, I'd be like, huh, yeah, no tracks. know, I just like. I wouldn't be like overly shocked that that shit was happening, you know? speaker-1: fucking knew it. I would take the day off and I would have a lot of mean I would have a lot of questions. speaker-0: What do you think would be like the global fallout of that would be if they did come out and say like, yep, everything you guys have been talking about is actually true. And it is a space mafia that's running it. And they look nothing like Vito Corleone. They're actually aliens and they're real big dicks. speaker-2: the speaker-1: I mean the first thing that would be shat probably shattered is religion. People would have so many questions about that. Yeah. Like how that how how does the old ancient times tie into the aliens? Like how long have you been coming here? Sure. Did you did you meet the big man? Did you meet J.C.? What about Mohammed? You know Abraham? speaker-0: Did you? Yeah. Do you think that we would have like a global reckoning of like, all right, let's put our shit aside and actually work together as a speed. speaker-1: Absolutely not. No chance. Absolutely not. I think it would go in two packs to be honest. Probably three. I don't know. Well, it depends. So are they friendly aliens or are they just like gonna let us live our lives but they're just telling us that they exist? Like are they coming here to kill us and slave us or are they just gonna be like, hey, just so you know, we're real. ⁓ Chiefs are gonna win the Super Bowl next year. I hope not, but. speaker-0: By the way, we're bringing flip phones back. Yeah, and our are going to be popular. speaker-1: And also, by the way, Taylor Swift is working for the CIA. ⁓ speaker-0: Right? ⁓ I think I got two trains of thought on this one, realistic and unrealistic. Realistic is that it does happen and it's from a friendly approach, right? This is Bibbles. He helped us develop the iPhone. He's here to make sure that we don't blow each other up. And then everybody's like, yay, go Bibbles, you know? And it's a very nice kind of like rollout of alien life being confirmed, right? The other half is like a little bit more of the wild one is being attacked, more like a Project Blue Book situation, you know? Or like a Mars attacks or like Independence Day, right? Where some shit goes wild. And then we did find out that we're on... The bottom end of the totem pole here. Sure. It's like a species is concerned. So I think I think option one is more probable I think that's that's probably how they would roll it out but Yeah speaker-1: I still don't think that it would bring us together. I really don't. speaker-0: You would have pro and anti aliens. speaker-1: I feel like people are way too divided and we're never going to see like a you. were both pretty young. But you remember after like 9 11 people were just like, you know, hey, we're all Americans and people actually probably be American. You know. Yeah, I think you're going to like let's say even there is an attack, you know, people have the people are going to be upset and the other people will be like, just, yeah, burn the fucking thing down. You know, just. speaker-0: Right. Yeah. Made a lot of fucking money on. speaker-1: And then I honestly think it's going to take the, ⁓ we're going to all like kind of getting rid of all, not all technology, but definitely the internet and going back to like knowing just your community. think that's the biggest thing that's changed is like our parents and even when we were kids, he only talked to who you could see and like whose phone numbers you remembered. Right. Like now you could just, you're looking at strangers profiles and their tweets and quotes and. arguing with people that you've never met and never will meet ever in your life that are in countries that you've never been to nor will ever go to or Probably robots like there's a bunch of bots out there, too. So I think it has to go It's true. Take that hat off. Let me see speaker-0: Exactly. You see the story about there was like this big AI, this like popular model online, probably had like an OF or some shit like that. Turned out to be some old Indian dude. Yeah dude. speaker-1: Yeah Just needed to make some money. Yeah, let me just make a hot 22 year old blonde speaker-0: fucking busted speaker-1: Sell some merch. Good for him, dude. speaker-0: Yeah, you fool a bunch of people millions of people. Yeah, think it was that shit's fucking funny speaker-1: Good for him. if you're dumb enough to buy it. speaker-0: Yeah, I I wouldn't I wouldn't be totally surprised if again if they came out with the news report tomorrow Saying that yep, draconians running everything like yeah, you know that fucking tracks Can they just lower rent prices, please? gas prices Right exactly like you guys looking for work speaker-1: What's the cost up there? Are you guys hiring up there? speaker-0: Can I take my dog? You're gonna love her. She's great. Tell them it's your birthday. Should we start the midwifes? Goodbye. speaker-1: Help! ⁓ Yeah, yeah, it's getting to be that time. speaker-0: I really hope You know what even if they do listen even if the Illuminati does or the the the Hindenburgs do listen to our podcast, right? I don't think anybody's going to look at it like ⁓ yeah, these guys are a threat speaker-1: Unless, unless we just fucking told the truth and they're actually meeting with the lizard people. Fucking Bilderberg. speaker-0: Right, they are these d***s, right? The Hindenburgs, the Bilderbeers, F**kers, speaker-2: Yep. speaker-0: So. speaker-1: It's creepy out there, my man. speaker-0: It is creepy. It's creepy. Maybe. speaker-1: Have you thought about what you're going to be for Halloween yet? speaker-0: At this rate, fucking Men In Black, probably. I haven't, but I had some ideas. ⁓ I thought about going as Edna Mote from... She's a little old lady from The Incredibles. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. She's great. Yeah. It would be a couple's Halloween thing, I think. speaker-1: What's the wifey gonna be? speaker-0: ⁓ Jack Jack? That'd be pretty fucking funny. No capes. ⁓ I don't know. I haven't really put too much thought into it. I'm just waiting for the water level to go down so I can start fishing again. And my shoulder's... speaker-1: No capes. Dude, my dad sent me a picture of if you heard of the broken ore up north. It's just like a biker bar that's right on the Fox River. Yeah. And the whole fucking thing is underwater, like all the docks, all the patio furniture hasn't been this high in a while. Dude, actually, I was taking the train that one road by the displays river. You need a boat to get around that fucking thing. Yeah. speaker-0: So we, that's where we usually go is somewhere in the disciplines river. And, ⁓ we've, we've started putting some science to it recently, right? We're like, ⁓ we'll map out what the water level is and say like, this was a good day. This was a bad day. This level is too high. And the highest that we have gone and still been able to wade through the river. It's like six and a half, seven feet right now. or at its highest, like Lashley, 18 feet. I know. As why? speaker-1: gosh I don't remember it being this high ever speaker-0: either. Yeah. But I think once I do start fishing, the topography of these rivers are going to change drastically with all that shit flowing down river, you know? It's going be very different from last year. speaker-1: I must really fuck with the fish. You have all this more room to roam, so much more of your neighborhood. And then just slowly start moving away over the days. speaker-0: Right? They fucking go migrate and they come back my house. It got totaled. This vlog came down two tires and a car battery just knocked out my old front porch. What the hell? speaker-1: It's fish trying to throw water on their house because it's getting above the fucking speaker-0: It's broken again We're almost we're almost there at least at least we're not I'm tired of the the bipolar weather 25 degrees in the morning 80 degrees in the afternoon. ⁓ speaker-1: Well, you're not going to like Friday, Saturday, Sunday. speaker-0: What happens? speaker-1: Say in lows in the 30s and then highs in the low 50s. You know what I am a big- That's fair. You know what I am a big fan of? sunrise at 5.50am. It's amazing. speaker-0: Dude, it's so tight. It's so great. Is that when you when you take yourself for a walk? speaker-1: Maybe. I get it. My alarm goes off at 6.03. speaker-0: No. Yeah, nice. Why are you three? Oh, yeah, you hate fives and ones speaker-1: I don't like fives and zeros. speaker-0: So why three and not four? speaker-1: Uh, cause I don't know. I want to sleep. I don't want to sleep too late past six. Yeah. Four seems a little much. speaker-0: Yeah, fair. I do a 615, but I don't get out until 630. speaker-1: Are you a snoozer? speaker-0: Nice news. Yeah, dude, my alarm clock right now is ocean waves. So I wake up to that every morning. Yeah. It's through the Amazon Alexa app. It's one of the options. Speaking of, I mean, going back to AI, right? They're listening. You know, these Alexis are listening and they fucking are for sure. But now I feel like Tony Stark in my house. speaker-1: Where did you find ocean waves? speaker-0: Used to have like voice-activated lights and shit, you know, I'd say like hey Alexa turn on turn on all my computers Look everything would start up like that's so fucking cool. speaker-1: But eventually that's gonna fucking it's not even listening just gathering data and then about to take over speaker-0: ⁓ yeah, get this, right? I was talking to one of our mutual friends and we had a long conversation about Bigfoot, which is a different conversation for a different day. But immediately after that conversation, all of my feeds were filled with Bigfoot. speaker-1: Yeah, of course. That's what they do, man. Yeah. speaker-0: I fucking listen. I don't know. speaker-1: That's what they do. That's all I'm looking at these past two days is Legos. That's all they got right now. ⁓ speaker-0: I'll leave you with this. I have two phishing inventions that I think we could really capitalize from. speaker-1: ⁓ tell me. speaker-0: snowshoes for wading in rivers. speaker-1: explain who's our audience is only like 20 people michael no one's going speaker-0: And we appreciate every single one of you. So like when you wade into a river, sometimes the banks can be incredibly muddy and you can get stuck in that mud. Similar to snow, you get a mud shoe. That's what I'm going call it. A mud shoe. Yeah. And it's a little bit wider of a platform, right? So you don't sink into the mud real fast. speaker-1: God. Much speaker-0: I'll hear first speaker-1: I'll think about it. I mean, I'm glad I thought it was going to just be for the winter time. I'm like, why are you doing some river fishing in the middle of winter? speaker-0: When you can, you gotta dodge the icebergs. The other one is a different type of fishing bait. So there's a divided community between fly fishermen and spinner reel fishermen, Fisher people. Well, it's just like, it's just a totally different community, right? Fly fishing, you got... speaker-1: on fly fishing? speaker-0: dry flies versus wet flies and you have all these like different, very intricate rigs, right? Whereas like bass fishing or walleye perch, whatever, right? With a spinner rod, you just tie that shit on there and fucking throw it out there, right? It doesn't get too complicated, you know? What if we make flies that are for bass fishing? Same type of thing, except they're heavy enough to be used for bass fishing. speaker-1: just sounds like normal top you just describing top water bait speaker-0: But they gotta look like flies. Because like where I was fishing last weekend, Everything was hitting like these little tiny top waters, right? Tiny. Very tiny for fly fishing. Sorry? Naturally, I put on a whopper plopper. I put on some top water bait, right? Of course. Theoretically, it does the same. Not a single one. Nada. They didn't like it. But I saw them jumping all over the place, eating all the other flies. Right? So I was thinking. why don't I just take that concept and put it on the spinner ride? You know? speaker-1: You sound like the pitching coach in Rookie of the Year was hot. The ice cubes! ⁓ god. ⁓ I don't hate it, it's just, I don't know how you're gonna be able to make such a small lure and also still have the weight on it and have it float. speaker-0: I think you could take a jig head, you know, that you put on like a Mr. Twister or something, you know, like the quarter ounce jig heads, you know? And then just build a fly around that. speaker-1: But you won't be able to cast it that far. You don't have enough weight. You don't have enough weight. speaker-0: You can see. Well, it's about the presentation, right? To make it look like a fly. speaker-1: Yeah, but you gotta go further than three feet away from you. speaker-0: Well, mean, with fishing, you really want to start at the banks anyway. Because like, okay, think about it. This is always really funny to me, right? If you're sure fishing, you try to cast out as far as you can into the lake, right? speaker-1: Not all the time. no, I'm going to respectfully disagree with you right there. speaker-0: but if you're out of both. Well, you get what I'm getting at, right? Is that you fish the banks, right? Because most of the fish... speaker-1: I fish for structure. Right. Is there some falling logs? there a sandbar? Right. That's not always banks. Drop offs are the speaker-0: So that's what I'm talking about. Near structure and structure is oftentimes close to a bank, Fishing a bank, you only cast out 10 feet. But then if you're on a boat, fishing for bass, you cast towards the bank. It's the size of the same coin. speaker-1: You do. You work your way back and you work your way back. I mean, I don't hate it. just I want to see some prototypes, Michael, because I don't understand how you're to be able to keep the same size and also have the weight to cast it in a decent amount, especially in you have to have no wind. If there's any wind, you can't speaker-0: ⁓ yeah, no, no, no wind can't I usually go fishing if it's too windy anyway, I Got way too much line stuck in trees before fuck all that speaker-1: None. You can throw a spinner if it's windy. There's enough weight behind a spinner. speaker-0: You can, but... Yeah. But I've gotten caught up due to wind more times than I care to admit. speaker-1: The most embarrassing is when you get caught up on a boat, you know, when you're fishing and you're kind of trying to fish under someone's dock on the water and you and you catch one of their boats and you try to fucking finagle it before they see you. speaker-0: Just trying to yank it. God damn it. speaker-1: Come on. God damn it. Yeah, I'm not going over there. Cut the line, damn it. Not going over there. speaker-0: It wasn't us. We saw some other asshole fly by with... speaker-1: fucking favorite lure. ⁓ speaker-0: Dude, I lost my favorite lure over the weekend. It was terrible. I just changed out all the hooks too, because the hooks were way too big. I it. Now it was a chatterbait and the hooks on it were just ridiculous. They were way too big. They were like grappling hooks for the size of what this lure was. I was like, what are you guys doing? This doesn't make sense. speaker-1: Are you making lures now, Michael? speaker-0: So I took those off and I put new ones on, second cast, baa, in a tree. Never got it back. Piece of shit. I was like, of course that would happen. I I don't know why I waste any money on bait. Just throw night crawlers. Who gives a shit if you lose them? speaker-1: I mean night crawlers and leeches man. It's honestly best paying a buck. just hate changing them all the time man. Yeah. speaker-0: OG fishing right there, can't believe Yeah, that's true. Well, I'm gonna go to the whiteboard. I'm gonna draw up some prototypes. That's a blueprint and find some thread, I think. speaker-1: Okay, I'm gonna try to make this Lego set. speaker-0: What Lego? What Lego? speaker-1: What? I'm making it. I have to make it. speaker-0: ⁓ you got to make a Lego set. speaker-1: Yeah, I'm gonna make it. think I'm gonna try to do a car. I've always, ⁓ there's a contest that if you make the best Lego thing that they'll actually put it in a box and start selling it to people. We gotta come up with an idea. So next week I'll let you know. speaker-0: Okay. All right. speaker-1: Eric! speaker-0: Thank you for listening to another episode of the Common Professionals Podcast. All music, content, and media used in this production are original creations and are owned by the common professionals.