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The Bolt Report | 25 June · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: He's the good Report. Good evening, Welcome to the Vould Report.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Steep Price, sitting in for Andrew Bolt all this week.
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  Speaker 1: Great coverage there from Peter Kredlin and Greg Sheridan. On
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  Speaker 1: what happened during Peter's show was a live media conference
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  Speaker 1: out of the Hague with President Donald Trump, and boy
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  Speaker 1: didn't he get stuck into some of the critics. We'll
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  Speaker 1: bring some of that to you in a moment. I
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  Speaker 1: will also look at the cease fire that seems to
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  Speaker 1: still be holding, but so it was at this time yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll keep an eye on all of that. We'll
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  Speaker 1: take you back to Israel shortly also coming up tonight,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll have more to say on this later. But finally,
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  Speaker 1: after nearly eight weeks two months after Australians went to
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  Speaker 1: an election, the new political year is finally starting to
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  Speaker 1: grind into a restart. The new Liberal leader, Susan Lee.
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  Speaker 1: They addressed the Canberra Press Club today. We'll have a
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  Speaker 1: review of that. Treacher of Jim Chalmers welcomed the new
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  Speaker 1: inflation numbers. They were good. We might get more interest
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  Speaker 1: rate cuts and the PM rather than strutting the world
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  Speaker 1: stage world Anthony Alberniez. He was in Tasmania today. That's
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  Speaker 1: a long way away from the Hague. Small steps all
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  Speaker 1: of it, and a minor blip given what's happened globally,
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  Speaker 1: but a start. We'll also catch up with Sky's Rowandine now.
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  Speaker 1: He was recently trapped in Balley by an ash cloud
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  Speaker 1: from a volcano, and I suspect he's not a big
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  Speaker 1: Susan lay fan. Bolt regular Michael Costa. I want to
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  Speaker 1: get his view on the stumbling relationship between Australia and
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  Speaker 1: its major ally the US, and on those inflation figures,
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  Speaker 1: what will they mean for a potential further interest rate cut.
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  Speaker 1: But first, what's unfolded in the last hour has been
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  Speaker 1: quite extraordinary. Donald Trump is at the NATO meeting. He's
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  Speaker 1: spoken at the NATO summit. He sat down in a
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  Speaker 1: joint media conference mainly with questions from the US journalists.
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  Speaker 1: Happened just moments ago, unfollow live here on Sky. Here's
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  Speaker 1: what the President had to say about the latest on
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  Speaker 1: the conflict in the Middle East.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was just a tremendous victory for everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Including a round Look, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, they've got a country and they've gone oil and
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  Speaker 2: they're very smart people and they can come back. Israel
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  Speaker 2: got hit very hard, especially the last couple of days.
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  Speaker 3: Issue was hit really hard.
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  Speaker 2: Those ballistic missiles. Boy, they took out a lot of buildings.
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  Speaker 1: And they've been great.
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  Speaker 2: Bben at Yaho should be very proud of himself, and
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  Speaker 2: they've really been great. But they're not going to be
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  Speaker 2: building bumps for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: This was quite the performance from Donald Trump and it
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  Speaker 1: was amazing to watch it live because he was revealing
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  Speaker 1: some of the information that most of us were waiting
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  Speaker 1: to hear, and it came straight out of his mouth
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  Speaker 1: and we were getting it direct from him. From Marco Rubio,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Hescot, they were all there and it was incredible.
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  Speaker 1: When we got into the detail, Donald Trump was asked
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  Speaker 1: about Iran and then nuclear program and what might be
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  Speaker 1: its future.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they just went through hell. I think they've
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  Speaker 2: had it. The last thing they want to do is enrich.
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  Speaker 2: They've been trying to do it. By the way, it's
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  Speaker 2: hard to do and Rich. We're actually getting along with them
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  Speaker 2: very well right now.
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  Speaker 1: But had we not succeeded with.
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  Speaker 3: That hit, that hit ended the war.
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  Speaker 1: That hit ended the war, A lot of the media
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  Speaker 1: there obviously are anti Trump. They want to see this
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  Speaker 1: operation fail. CNN, The New York Times, MSNBC, they've all
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  Speaker 1: leaped on this idea that somehow the bombing ray didn't
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  Speaker 1: work as it should, and they kept asking questions about that.
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  Speaker 1: They asked, what would happen if the Iranians attempted to rebuild?
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump was having none of it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to have to worry about that.
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  Speaker 2: It's gone for years years. It's very tough to rebuild
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  Speaker 2: because the whole thing is collapsed. In other words, inside
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  Speaker 2: it's all collapsed. Nobody can get in to see it
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  Speaker 2: because it's collapsed. You can't go in to see a
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  Speaker 2: room that has, you know, ten million tons of rock
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  Speaker 2: at it.
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  Speaker 1: And in true Trump fashion, obviously he does not like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the mainstream media in the United States.
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  Speaker 1: You can't blame him the way they have potshots at
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  Speaker 1: him all the time. I mean, this is a leader
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  Speaker 1: who at the weekend attacked Iran. Iran didn't know the
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  Speaker 1: attack was coming. You had missiles being fired out of
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  Speaker 1: submarines offshore, you had that extraordinary bunker bombing attack on
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  Speaker 1: the nuclear facilities. You would think most people in the
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  Speaker 1: United States would be happy that around probably now won't
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  Speaker 1: be able to get themselves a nuclear weapon. So, in
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  Speaker 1: true Trump fashion, what's he doing? He took some potshots
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  Speaker 1: at the media.
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  Speaker 2: You had some great reporters, but you have scum. CNN
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  Speaker 2: has scum, MSDS he has scum.
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  Speaker 3: The New York Times has scum.
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  Speaker 2: They're bad people, they're sick. And what they've done is
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  Speaker 2: they're trying to make this unbelievable victory into something.
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  Speaker 1: Lest I reckon that'd play very well at home. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: not just his supporters, but a lot of Americans don't
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  Speaker 1: like the media when they start to downplay efforts of
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  Speaker 1: the American military. I mean, he talked about the brave pilots.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, some of those people from some of those
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  Speaker 1: cable networks are a disgrace. Donald Trump went further. He
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  Speaker 1: obviously believes this was a massive success, this attack on
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  Speaker 1: the nuclear facility. He even used the words which surprised me,
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  Speaker 1: Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to use.
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  Speaker 2: An example of Hiroshima. I don't want to use an
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  Speaker 2: example of Nagasaki, but that was essentially the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: If that ended that war, this ended that.
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  Speaker 1: With the war.
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  Speaker 2: If we didn't take that out, they would have been
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  Speaker 2: they'd be fighting right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was an amazing performance and he held sway
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  Speaker 1: there for probably about forty five minutes, all of it
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  Speaker 1: covered live here on Sky, to be reported widely. We'll
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  Speaker 1: have assessment of what he said later in the program,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sure that Sharry Markson will follow that up
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  Speaker 1: on the program after US. Now let's get into the program.
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  Speaker 1: Some US media have reported that US intelligence were suggesting
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  Speaker 1: that last weekend strike, as we pointed out, on the
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  Speaker 1: nuclear sites, only set their program back a few months.
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump says that's rubbish. He says that's not true.
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  Speaker 1: He says it's like scorched earth at those two places
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  Speaker 1: hit by the bunker buster bombs. And the critics say
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  Speaker 1: it didn't destroy the core of the US government's attack
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  Speaker 1: on the nuclear sites, Well, no one knows that yet,
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  Speaker 1: no one's been able to get there. The damage is
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  Speaker 1: quite remarkable around nuclear plans. Look, they Donald Trump thinks
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  Speaker 1: could be set back up to decades, decades and decades.
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  Speaker 1: White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt Well, she fired back
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  Speaker 1: about all this on Twitter, saying these reports were all
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  Speaker 1: fake news and claiming this alleged assessment is a flat
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  Speaker 1: out wrong and was classified as top secret, but was
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  Speaker 1: still leaked to CNN and by in her words, an
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  Speaker 1: anonymous low level loser in the intelligence community. I'm joined
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  Speaker 1: now by Israeli American Hillel Fuld, who joins us from
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  Speaker 1: Tel Aviv. I don't know how much he saw a
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  Speaker 1: President Trump the Hellel, but it was quite the performance.
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  Speaker 1: And he is claiming that the mission on Saturday was
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  Speaker 1: a raging success, and that is Iran is now decades
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  Speaker 1: away from being able to develop any sort of a
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  Speaker 1: nuclear weapon. That's going to be good news for the world,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, I mean the ridiculous talk by CNN and
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  Speaker 4: other mainstream media that it was only back a few
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  Speaker 4: months is ridiculous. First of all, they have no nuclear
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  Speaker 4: facilities to develop the bomb. They have no nuclear scientists
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  Speaker 4: to build the bomb, let alone the iridium. So of
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  Speaker 4: course they'll do anything to remain relevant. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 4: not as extremely as President Trump calling them names, but
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  Speaker 4: they are irrelevant and their traffic reflects that.
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  Speaker 3: So they'll do.
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  Speaker 4: Anything to make Trump look bad, to make the only
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  Speaker 4: Jewish state look bad, and for them, they know it
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  Speaker 4: sells it gets clicks and that's all they're didn't.
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  Speaker 1: We say the why the maindstream US media, who are
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  Speaker 1: mainly Trump heighters, are reporting this. How was the Israeli
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  Speaker 1: media reporting what the likely outcome of the mission was
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  Speaker 1: on those facilities.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, we had clear objectives to this war that there's
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  Speaker 4: no questions here. You know, in terms of subjectivity, we
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  Speaker 4: had objectives, you know that we defined and we had
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  Speaker 4: achieved all of them. So you know, the talk about
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  Speaker 4: Israel didn't win.
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  Speaker 3: Is silly and ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: But this is the nature of our enemies, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Young Kip or Ward. They didn't can see that they
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  Speaker 4: lost either. None of the wars that we won did
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  Speaker 4: our enemies admit that they lost. So it concerns the
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  Speaker 4: Israeli people less.
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  Speaker 1: We know what we did.
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  Speaker 4: We know that we removed Iran as an existential threat
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  Speaker 4: to the state of Israel. Their ballistic missiles are destroyed,
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  Speaker 4: their nuclear plant is destroyed, They're gone, the regimes hanging
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  Speaker 4: on by a thread. The rest of it is just propaganda.
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  Speaker 4: The fact of the matter is we accomplished our mission.
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  Speaker 1: This time last night in Australia, the cease fire was
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  Speaker 1: looking like it might fall over there was a tacks
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  Speaker 1: and counter attacks from Israel and Iran. Iran put that
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  Speaker 1: ballistic missile into Bersheba, and Israel quite rightly, then responded
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump on Air Force One on the why tonight,
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  Speaker 1: I said, look, I've rung Benjaminett and Yahoo. I've told
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  Speaker 1: him that we've got to back off. Let's make this
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  Speaker 1: ceasefire work, and Net and Yah who actually, according to Trump,
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  Speaker 1: called back some fighter jets and said, let's just hold.
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  Speaker 1: Are you confident this ceasefire can hold?
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  Speaker 4: You have to remember who we're dealing with here. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: they already broke the ceasefire multiple times last night. They
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  Speaker 4: fired two drones into Israel. So we're dealing with an enemy,
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  Speaker 4: you know, an Iranian evil regime that will never admit defeat.
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  Speaker 4: They just don't understand the concept of surrender. And again,
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  Speaker 4: it's much like the rest of the radical Islamic world.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I don't know what drives them. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: we know their philosophy. Their ideology is to kill as
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  Speaker 4: many Jews as possible. To tell you that they're stupid
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  Speaker 4: enough to restart this word knowing the destruction that is
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  Speaker 4: brought upon them, It's hard for me to believe they
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  Speaker 4: would do that.
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  Speaker 3: Israel destroyed.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they're commanding.
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  Speaker 3: Officers at the highest levels.
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  Speaker 4: We just announced that we killed twenty nine brigade commanders officers,
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  Speaker 4: which is astounding. What Israel did in this war is
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  Speaker 4: going to go down in history books and will be
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  Speaker 4: quoted by military strategists for decades into the future. It
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  Speaker 4: is an astounding victory and it's important to mention. You know,
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  Speaker 4: we fought the last war, the Sixth Day War in June,
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  Speaker 4: and now we fought the Twelve Day War in June,
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  Speaker 4: and both of these wars were astounding success and victory
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  Speaker 4: for the State of Israel, and that's something the Israeli
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  Speaker 4: people are very proud of. Again, the propaganda machine in Iran,
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  Speaker 4: it's gotten to the point that it's comical, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: I ignore it. It's not easy to ignore it because
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  Speaker 4: they lie to their people. But there's no way that
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  Speaker 4: anybody could look at the outcome of this war and
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  Speaker 4: say that Israel did not accomplish a definitive victory.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that were an extraordinary, extraordinary Saints at the weekend
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  Speaker 1: when the US went in. You're a Jewel US Israeli citizen,
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  Speaker 1: how does the average Israeli citizens feel about what was
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  Speaker 1: achieved by Israel in the first instance. And we mentioned
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  Speaker 1: last night that Israel went in there with fighter jets
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  Speaker 1: and softened up the ground for the Americans to make
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  Speaker 1: that ultimate mission attack. I mean, how do you feel
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  Speaker 1: that your fellow israelis a feeling about what's been achieved
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  Speaker 1: so far?
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  Speaker 4: Interestingly, we have unity. We haven't had this level of
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  Speaker 4: unity in a long time because no one debats or
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  Speaker 4: denies the incredible success that Natagnell who had in this war.
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  Speaker 4: And so again a month ago half this country was,
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  Speaker 4: you know, against Nataille. Now everyone's down.
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  Speaker 1: To them, even the opposition.
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  Speaker 4: So I guess if they ran to think for that
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  Speaker 4: because we are unified once again.
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  Speaker 1: We've just seen light pittures there of the NATO group
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  Speaker 1: posing for the cameras pretty much, so that would appear
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  Speaker 1: to be the end of that camera of that gathering.
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  Speaker 1: So what does a ceasefire going forward look like? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how does it work? Well? I mean, as you said,
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  Speaker 1: and I was talking last night to Shordan Spicer, who
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  Speaker 1: was of course Trump's press secretary first time round. He
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  Speaker 1: said he wouldn't trust to run as far as he
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  Speaker 1: could throw them I mean, how does a ceasefire get
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  Speaker 1: sold to the people of Israel. Give him what you've
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  Speaker 1: been through.
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  Speaker 3: It's not easy.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, many people want to see the regime fall completely.
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  Speaker 4: But I think if we're going to compare it to something,
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  Speaker 4: maybe it's comparable to what happened with riz ballin Lebanon.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the Iranian Supreme Leader asked them to join
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  Speaker 4: this last round, and of course they denied that, and
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  Speaker 4: they rejected his offer because they understand what Israel did
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  Speaker 4: to them. And so right now we have a ceasefire
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  Speaker 4: with Rizbaalan. Anytime they try to break that ceasefire, they're
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  Speaker 4: immediately attacked and punished for that. So I think that's
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  Speaker 4: the way we're going to see this ceasefire play out.
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  Speaker 4: I think that Iran.
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  Speaker 3: Will probably play with fire.
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  Speaker 4: They already have again, they've shot two drones and one
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  Speaker 4: ballistic missile AFT or this is fire came into effect.
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  Speaker 4: They're testing us, and soon our patients will wear out.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, Trump is asking us to hold back, and
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  Speaker 4: that's what we're doing. But if they keep playing with fire,
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  Speaker 4: they know what's going to happen, and they won't do
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  Speaker 4: it because they understand the destruction that was brought upon
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  Speaker 4: their country.
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  Speaker 1: Hell, just before you go, the Albaneze government, as we know,
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  Speaker 1: canceled your VISI you a judo make a speech here
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  Speaker 1: in Australia. They said it was due to concerns that
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  Speaker 1: you'd make inflammatory statements, saying you'd be a risk to
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  Speaker 1: the health, safety or good order of the country. I
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  Speaker 1: know some American contexts of yours tried to step in
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  Speaker 1: and stop that. Mike Huckabee, how are you feeling after
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  Speaker 1: that cancelation of the visa? What's your feelings to die
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  Speaker 1: about that?
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  Speaker 4: You can't make this stuff up. I'm just a random
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  Speaker 4: guy writing my thoughts on the Internet. I obviously very
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  Speaker 4: careful not to post things that are inflammatory or god forbid,
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  Speaker 4: Islamophobic or racist in any way, and this is just
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  Speaker 4: a poor excuse to ban someone with strong pro Israel opinions.
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  Speaker 4: The tweets that they quoted in their document that they
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  Speaker 4: send me when they woke my visa were absolutely ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: They literally removed words from my tweets. For example, they
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  Speaker 4: quoted me saying that Islam is a global cancer. When
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  Speaker 4: you go look at the actual post that I wrote,
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  Speaker 4: I wrote radical Islam is a global cancer. But so
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  Speaker 4: conveniently they deleted that word.
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  Speaker 3: They quoted a tweet.
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  Speaker 4: Of mind saying that there was no massacre in the
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  Speaker 4: humanitarian zone, something that we now know is true and
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  Speaker 4: was confirmed, and all of the reporters who reported that
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  Speaker 4: quote unquote massacre redacted and retreated their retracted their statement.
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  Speaker 4: So the whole thing is one kind of bogus show
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  Speaker 4: to try to remove my voice. Of course they were
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  Speaker 4: unsuccessful at that, given that I gave the talk, and
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  Speaker 4: the amount of money that we raised far surpassed what
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  Speaker 4: we would have raised had I come there, and.
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  Speaker 3: Of course this war broke out, so I'd be stuck there.
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  Speaker 4: So all in all, I think everyone won, and the
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  Speaker 4: big loser here is the Australian government.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, fol thank you very much for joining us in
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  Speaker 1: Tel Aviv. Let's go back to local politics now. And
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  Speaker 1: some figures out today in flights, and they used even
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  Speaker 1: further process, rousing two point one per saying I think
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  Speaker 1: I year to May the slowest pace since twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: Now I am a bit puzzled by this, because I
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  Speaker 1: mean we see inflation going down. Jim Chalmers was today
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  Speaker 1: celebrating this. Have a listen.
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  Speaker 5: This is the lowest that inflation has been four years.
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  Speaker 5: It's the lowest headline inflation since the beginning of twenty
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  Speaker 5: twenty one, it's the lowest underlying inflation since the end
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  Speaker 5: of twenty twenty one, and also means for the first
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  Speaker 5: time since these monthly records have been kept that we
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  Speaker 5: have seen six consecutive months now of inflation within the
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  Speaker 5: Reserve Bank's target range.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's the numbers to break it down and what
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  Speaker 1: it really means, eunsw Economics Professor Ggi Foster joins me. Now, Professor, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: good news. Maybe for people with a mortgage inflation rate
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  Speaker 1: two point one percent, why then, I hope you can
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  Speaker 1: answer this question. Does it feel everything's going up?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Steve, that's a very common complaint, and part of
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  Speaker 6: it is because, first of all, prices are rising two
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  Speaker 6: point one percent doesn't mean they're not rising. It means
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  Speaker 6: they are rising by two point one percent over the
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  Speaker 6: year in estimate. Secondly, of course, anytime you try to
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  Speaker 6: measure the consumer price index, which is what inflation is
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  Speaker 6: based on, you have a very perilous task in front
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  Speaker 6: of you. There are all sorts of ways in which
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  Speaker 6: those numbers are quite dicey. There's shrinkflation where you have
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  Speaker 6: a smaller amount of chocolate. Let's say that you buy
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  Speaker 6: for the same price, and so it seems like it's
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  Speaker 6: kind of the same, but it's not. You're not getting
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  Speaker 6: quite as much that can then not necessarily be captured
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  Speaker 6: in the way the CPI is measured. And there are
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  Speaker 6: lots of other measurement issues. You have a basket of
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  Speaker 6: goods that is measured for price, maybe that's not the
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  Speaker 6: basket that a particular household is buying. There are also
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  Speaker 6: differences in the rate of growth in prices for different
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: types of.
• 16:52
  Speaker 7: Goods, so fruits and vegetables.
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: Fruits actually went down in price this month, but other
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: things may be going up, and so depending on what
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: you buy, you are feeling the hit more. And of course, finally,
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: not everybody owns a house or an apartment or any property,
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: so those who do will be hoping that their banks
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: will pass this on. But there's only about thirty percent
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: or so of Australians and the people who are renting
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: are going to have to rely on their landlords to
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: give them a break, and I kind of doubt that
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: that's likely. Usually you don't get rent decreases in the world,
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: you only get rent increases. Hopefully at least we won't
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: get that.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. I mean,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: this figure is very fragile, and it includes dropping fuel prices. Well,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: we know what's going on in the Middle East and
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the threat there to oil supply, so we could get
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: a massive increase or spike in fuel prices coming up
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: in the next few weeks, if not months. And it
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: also said that, as you mentioned, rents went down, well, anecdotally,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: rents everywhere through the roof because of demand, aren't they.
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of demand. There's a
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: lot of particularly in the big cities, as you know,
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: huge amounts of housing shortage. And really it's not necessarily
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: like if we could just distribute the people in those
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: cities to the places that are available, then we wouldn't
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: have a shortage. But we have a lack of capacity utilization,
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: we have poor policy, we have poor kind of interaction
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: with property developers around the needs that the society has.
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: So there's a lot of stuff that's going on there
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: in the market that's perpetuating this problem. In addition to
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: you know, other things you might mention like students, immigration
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: and whatnot that are putting pressure on rents and totally.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: I mean I've never been in a place where I've
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: had a rent decrease, so you know, I think that's
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: not as likely as, for example, the banks passing on
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: a mortgage repayment decrease to their customers. I mean, this
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: issue of sort of you know, what is it really
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: feeling like to people is so big that actually we
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: are organizing if people are in Sydney would like to
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: come a big dialogue on the cost of living, the
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: cost of living problem, because everybody seems to be still
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: talking about it despite these figures. That's coming up on
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: the evening of Monday, seventh of July. On the fuel point,
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, one of the things that the Australian government
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: has in its back pocket is that we have a
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: fuel excise tax being applied at the federal level right
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: and that tax is about fifty cents on the leader
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: at the moment. So I think probably what's likely is
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: if we did see a really massive market increase of
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: that price, then the government would just wheel back out
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: there kind of oh, look, we're going to reduce the
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: fuel exercise tax and make everybody's lives easier kind of line,
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: and that will be very popular. You can see how
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: hard Chalmers is hitting this, this monthly inflation figure because
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: he just loves it, right, I mean, this is just
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: an absolute political gold for him. And there's still more
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: gold in the ace in the hole if in fact
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: we do get hit with higher fuel prices because of
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: what's happening in the Middle East or any other disruptions
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: to trade.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great stuff, Gigi, thank you very much for that.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: You're explained it very well. Good luck with that round
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: table about cost of living, because I sure you'll get
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: some pretty grim stories. Yeah. Coming up, As I said
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the top of the program. Opposition leader Susan Lee was
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the headline act at the Canbra Press Club today in
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: an address that was in part a look at her
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: past jobs, oppressive but small on future detail and usual
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: working groups and reviews into what went wrong in May.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: At least, she admitted the Libs were smashed. I'll find
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: out what Rowan Dean makes of all of that. Up next,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: welcome back Steve Price and for Andrew Bob. There are
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: live pictures coming out of that NATO conference. If need be,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: will take you back there. Shortly I mentioned that Susan Lee,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: the Opposition leader, dave a big speech at the Camera
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Press Club today. I'm not sure why people bother to
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: go and do that. To be honest, the Liberal election loss,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: she admitted it was that they were smashed. Well, we
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: accept that, but Susan, you were the deputy leader and
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: you presumably set in it on some of the tactics meetings. Anyway,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I know you want a fresh start, but as I said,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: talk about the issues people want talked about most. And
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: let me tell you, men and women and the numbers
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: of each in your party are not what average Australians
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: are talking about out there in public. Now Here was
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Susan Lee again highlighting the barriers that women still face.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Your message the Liberal Party needs to change, bring in
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: more diversity, more voices, and create an environment where women
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: are given a real chance to lead.
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: People say the word quote is what I think to
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: myself is come on, it's time to get serious about
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: women in the Liberal Party. You can describe it how
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: you want, in terms of mandatory, voluntary, state divisions whatever.
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: I want to work proactively, passionately with our state divisions to.
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: Achieve more women in the Liberal Party.
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: What we have now is completely unacceptable.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I can see Rowan Deane's eye roll from here, he
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: joins me. Now, I mean seriously, when you went down
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: to the pub in Bali drinking bin tangs with your
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Bali singladon last week, was people standing around saying we
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: need more women in the Liberal Party, we need more
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: diverse voices.
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: Exactly, Steve, thanks for having me on your show.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: When I was at school in canber at Forrest Primary,
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: that board up on the wall which had all the
• 22:15
  Speaker 9: words that you weren't. Our teacher insisted we were never
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: allowed to use certain words, and there was about half
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: a dozen of them, but one of them was nice. Nice,
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: and we were told under no circumstances ever used that
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: word to describe something, because if it is nice, then
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: you can't think of a better word than it. Literally
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: is vacuous, It is nothing. Susan Lee came across as nice,
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: very nice speech, very nice thing, she said. She sounds
• 22:39
  Speaker 9: like a nice person. She was a pilot and we
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: got all of that stuff. But the problem is what
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: Australians need, forget the Liberal Party. What Australians desperately need
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: is a not nice leader of the Liberal Party. What
• 22:53
  Speaker 9: Australians need is a warrior, someone who will fight to
• 22:57
  Speaker 9: tear down the worst government this has seen since Whitlam
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: and possibly before Wlam.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: We need a warrior. Can be a woman.
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: There are some great women warriors, fantastic. Just Center Price
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: is a great warrior. We need a warrior to tear
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: down this appalling government that we have. We are sitting
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: at one of the most critical moments in world history.
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: You've just talked about it before, It's been on the show.
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: Donald Trump at NATO, we are sitting at a point
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: equivalent to the Berlin Wall coming down.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: We are sitting at a.
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: Point in history virtually equivalent to the Japanese Empire surrendering
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: at the end of World War Two, where we may
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: finally see peace in the Middle East, something none of
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: us have ever experienced in our lifetimes. And that is
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: all down to one man, Donald Trump. Australia used to
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: be like that with America. We were America's deputy sheriff.
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: We were, even though Left hated that term and Kevin
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: Rudd certainly did, but we were like.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: That with America.
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: We share the same values, we share the same goals,
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: we share the same.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Strengths and power.
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: Sit there and look at Donald Trump and compare that
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: to this insignificant little character who won't even front up
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: to a meeting, who can't even get a phone call
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: with Donald Trump. That's what we have. We have one
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: of the worst governments we've ever had. We are being
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: crippled by net zero. And all Susan Lee could come
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: out with and say was that we should be cutting emissions. Now,
• 24:19
  Speaker 9: let me tell you, Steve guaranteed the next change of
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: government will come about with a party that opposes net zero.
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: Because net zero is destroying this country. It's destroying our prosperity.
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: It's destroying our economy, it's destroying investment, it's destroying the
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: future that our kids deserve, it's destroying jobs, all on
• 24:37
  Speaker 9: a fantasye some silly fantasy about being a renewable superpower
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: because of green hydrogen, which.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Doesn't even exist.
• 24:43
  Speaker 9: We need a warrior to attack the net zero house
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: of cards and bring this government down and do it fast.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: That's what we need.
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: Chris, and I didn't hear one word that gave me
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: any confidence that the Liberal Party are going to do that.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: You look, I dropped the editor at the top of
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the program because we went live with the Trump remarks
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: at NATO where he ripped into the US media. He
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: called CNN scum, and you know, he just says what
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: he believes and thinks, and he follows through. I watched
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Susan Lee today and I was waiting for some solid
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: comment about you know, we will turn our back on
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: that zero and we're not going to bankrupt the country
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and force everyone to have transmission lines plowed through their farms.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: You heard none of that. I didn't hear a mention
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: of the word immigration at all anywhere, and even cost
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: of living didn't really seem to bother her too much.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I also wonder, I meant if Peter
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Dutton was probably right not to go to the Press
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: club in Canberra. I mean, if you want to actually
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: get out there and feel what the nation's feeling, the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: pain the nation's feeling, go on Paul Murray in one
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: of his town shows, or go out and organize your
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: own town halls. Don't go down to the Canberra bubble
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and talk about you know what it was like going
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to high school.
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: There so many problems facing this nation.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: It's probably not a it's a rather dispiriting.
• 26:04
  Speaker 9: Idea that yesterday or the day before, we had the
• 26:06
  Speaker 9: e Safety Commissioner Julian Mangrant in there at the National
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: Press Club.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: This was woke central.
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: It was hard to distinguish actually between Susan Lee and
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: Julian Mungrant for any opposition to the current woke zeitgeist.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: The one thing Susan Lee didn't do.
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: I mean, I sat there and listened to all this
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: hand ringing stuff about oh, we're so terrible the Liberal Party.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: We lost and we lost this seat, and we lost
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: that seat, and we lost so many votes.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Woe is me? Where was me?
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Didn't want to hear that. What I wanted to hear
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: was that one single answer.
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: Why in September and October of last year, only six
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: or seven months ago, was the Liberal Party riding well above,
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: well ahead of Labor in the polls, standing ready to
• 26:49
  Speaker 9: win the election. Why between the Voice which the Liberal
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: Party won in a sixty one thirty nine majority, unheard of,
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: Everyone said it would go the other way. How did
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: they lose the momentum from that to losing the election?
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: And Susan Lee was a key part of the decision
• 27:08
  Speaker 9: making processes, every decision taken between you know, August September,
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: October of last year, this time last year, even when
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: they were riding high.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: In the opinion polls, looking.
• 27:18
  Speaker 9: At a landslide victory, potentially but certainly a victory.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: What were the decisions she took.
• 27:26
  Speaker 9: And with Peter Dutton and the team that led to
• 27:28
  Speaker 9: that disastrous hand ringing, you know, losing everything around them,
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: losing everything.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: What were the decisions they took?
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: And I'll tell you one of them was when they're
• 27:36
  Speaker 9: refused to get behind Donald Trump, when they refused to
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: pull out of the Paris Agreement, when Peter Dunnon didn't
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: jump on the plane the day after Donald Trump was
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: elected and said we're right with you mate. We're here
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: where your famous allies, where your great mates will do
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: whatever it needs to make this world a better place.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: That's what we.
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: Didn't see, all the decisions, Steve, that were taken that
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: Susan Lee was a party. She doesn't need a group
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: to sit around, She doesn't need PowerPoint presentations and research
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: focus groups to tell them what went wrong. I can
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: tell them what went wrong.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: You can tell them wrong.
• 28:07
  Speaker 9: Becau's people in every pub in Australia can tell them
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: exactly what went wrong, and the reason it went wrong
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: is because they did not stick to hardcore values, liberal
• 28:15
  Speaker 9: conservative values that the people of Australia wanted and demanded
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: and need.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Now, Rahlan absolutely, and it's going to be a very
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: long three years. Welcome back from Barley mate, we'll catch
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: you on the weekend. Now. The Men's government, speaking of
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: politicians and politics, they handed down their third budget. They
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: say they're going to focus on housing in public transport upgrades,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: boosting skills through TAFE, no new cost of living relief
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: for struggling families, though the Treasurer of Daniel Murky says
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the budget's about securing the state's future and even as
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: New South Wales has split to spend more than it
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: earns until at least twenty twenty seven, watching it with
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: an eagle eye form a treasure of New South Wales
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Michael Costa, did we hear anything about savings measures in
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: that budget at all.
• 29:04
  Speaker 10: There's some moderate savings measures in the budget, Steve, but
• 29:07
  Speaker 10: they're not going to really make much difference compared to
• 29:11
  Speaker 10: some of the big growth items. Look, I'm going to
• 29:13
  Speaker 10: say this budget was probably Menses and Murkey's best budget.
• 29:18
  Speaker 10: I think the first two unfortunately, were caught by their
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: promises on wages, which you know are reflected in this budget.
• 29:25
  Speaker 10: You're seeing wages, public sector wages growing by two billion
• 29:28
  Speaker 10: dollars next year. And you know the trick with all
• 29:31
  Speaker 10: of this, of course, is because you know, public servants
• 29:35
  Speaker 10: are the key expenditure item in the budget. If you
• 29:37
  Speaker 10: increase their wages, it looks like you're spending more in
• 29:40
  Speaker 10: every area you are, but you're not necessarily getting productivity
• 29:43
  Speaker 10: or better results in those expenditure areas. Look, it's quite
• 29:49
  Speaker 10: depressing to see, you know, a budget deficit of five
• 29:53
  Speaker 10: point seven billion and a projection of more deficits next year.
• 29:57
  Speaker 10: I'm very skeptical about the surplus is too talking about.
• 30:01
  Speaker 10: I think the big challenges that he does have is
• 30:03
  Speaker 10: that our debt position here is getting up to two
• 30:06
  Speaker 10: hundred billion dollars gross dead and you can see that
• 30:09
  Speaker 10: in the interest payments. The interest payments are going to
• 30:11
  Speaker 10: go from roughly seven billion to nearly ten billion over
• 30:15
  Speaker 10: the forward estimates, and that shows you the difficult position
• 30:19
  Speaker 10: they're in. They made some silly decisions very early in
• 30:21
  Speaker 10: the piece by granting public sector wages way in excess
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: of inflation and without productivity. They reversed the policy that
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: I had and Michael Illion had and the previous Conservative
• 30:33
  Speaker 10: government legislated for and I think they're bearing the consequences
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: of that. But having said that, there isn't any major
• 30:41
  Speaker 10: new expenditure in there. I know you may comment about
• 30:44
  Speaker 10: cost of living. The big item there is really the
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: energy and that's subsidized by the federal government.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: That debt you talk of is small change compared to
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: where I'm based in Melbourne. Mate, We'd love to have
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: a debt as small as that.
• 30:58
  Speaker 10: Yeah, well, well what about Queensland. I mean, they gave
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: a budget on the same day and they're projecting exactly
• 31:04
  Speaker 10: the same debt over the forward estimate, so two hundred billion.
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: But there are deficit is nearly eight billion, compared to
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: New South Wales's five billion. I'm surprised of that government.
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: They really had an opportunity to cut they didn't, So
• 31:19
  Speaker 10: that budget's in worse position than any And yes, certainly
• 31:22
  Speaker 10: the Victorian budget's got real problems.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about one of your favorite politicians, Jim Chalmers.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: He says nothing is off the table at this upcoming
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: economic reform summit, including potential changes to the GST, but
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: he's made it very clear the proposal must be in
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the national interest.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: Here he is that's not unusual for the states and
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: territories to put their hand up for a bigger revenue
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: base or for more commonwealth support, more commonwealth funding. That's
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: been a pretty frequent occurrence over recent years, in recent
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: decades since the GST was introduced.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: How's Jim traveling?
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: Well, you know, I think he's economically clueless, and that
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: unrealized capital gains tax, which is still on the table
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: as you should have been, jettus, and if he was
• 32:13
  Speaker 10: seriously talking about tax reform, clearly shows that. Look, the
• 32:17
  Speaker 10: problem with what he's saying is that he's never going
• 32:19
  Speaker 10: to get any of the states to increase to agree
• 32:23
  Speaker 10: to increase the GST, is never going to get any
• 32:25
  Speaker 10: of the states to increase the share formula. And the
• 32:30
  Speaker 10: reason or change the share formula, I should say, you know,
• 32:33
  Speaker 10: states like Western Australia that have sweet artdeals and other
• 32:36
  Speaker 10: states like South Australia and Tasmania are never going to
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: agree to the major states getting of that affair of
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: the GST. So I just don't see any reform in
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: terms of tax reform. I mean, look, he's tied in
• 32:50
  Speaker 10: on the income tax, he's already made his decisions for
• 32:52
  Speaker 10: the next four ward year. I think it's going to
• 32:54
  Speaker 10: be a big talk fest. Give Jim an opportunity to
• 32:57
  Speaker 10: grandstand again, but no substance.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a small group of people, and it's
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: hand picked, and the unions will be in there pushing
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: their case very hard. And you know what comes out
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: of it, I don't think is going to be what
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: you'd call rich reform. Michael Costam my friend. Always great
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: to catch up with you. Thanks very much, mate, I'll
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: speak to you next week on the program. Still to come.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump's NATO visit has Europe, as we know, on
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: edge defense spending talks ramp up, but his silence on
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: backing allies sparks some pretty fresh fears. We'll talk to
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: our panel about that. And we've got some real beauties
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: for you. Welcome back. Crazy Victorian government is interfering even
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: more on who can use gas. They've smashed the catering
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and restaurant industry. I'll talk to the Catering Association about
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: that shortly. As we saw at the top of the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: program and during Peter's program with a live media conference.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: President Donald Trump is at NATO. He's turned up there
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: and he's asked NATO members to spend a hell of
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: a lot more on defense. I think he's mentioned the
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: five percent mark, thirty one leaders there. They were at
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: a dinner hosted by the Dutch King at the beginning.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: And to keep Donald Trump on side, but his silence
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: on backing mutual defense, Europe's pretty much on edge. They
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: don't know where this is going to go. You can't
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: predict Donald Trump. If there's more pictures will take you
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: back there shortly. Join me now the Bolt panel for
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: this evening Skye News host Caroline De Russo and PR
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Council Managing Director Christy McSweeney. Welcome to you both. Let's
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: start with the lonely guy up the back photo like
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: hiding the naughty kid in the school. Pick. Have a
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: look at this snap of the NATO attendees, the actual
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: members of NATO and people who want to be in NATO.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Zelenski's there, look up there back right, circled Australia's Deputy
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Prime Minister and Defense Minister Richeal, Richard Miles, Caroline, no
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: wonder Anthony ALBANIZI didn't want to go. Imagine how you'd
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: feel when the organizers say, okay, mate, you're back, grow
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  Speaker 1: on the right, on the end, get up there.
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  Speaker 11: Well, I think there's probably a few reasons why we're
• 35:08
  Speaker 11: in the back corner unfortunately, and there's obviously been those
• 35:12
  Speaker 11: discussions with Australia in relation to lifting our defense spending
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  Speaker 11: and at NATO that's a really serious conversation and Steve,
• 35:20
  Speaker 11: you'll recall when these conversations happened in the first Trump term.
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  Speaker 11: So that's why everyone's very nervous, because they've been around
• 35:28
  Speaker 11: this mountain before, and the US is obviously wondering why
• 35:33
  Speaker 11: on earth we're paying for everyone else's security if they're
• 35:37
  Speaker 11: not willing to pay for their own. So I expect
• 35:40
  Speaker 11: there will be some very interesting conversations. And as you said,
• 35:44
  Speaker 11: as you opened, sometimes I think that his lack of
• 35:47
  Speaker 11: predictability can be some of the best leaverage that he has. Obviously,
• 35:52
  Speaker 11: there's a whole bunch of conversations going on there at
• 35:56
  Speaker 11: the moment. I know that there was just news very
• 35:59
  Speaker 11: recent or just before we jumped on air, in relation
• 36:03
  Speaker 11: to the strikes in Iran. There's been conversations in relation
• 36:07
  Speaker 11: to the Ukraine. So plenty going on over there, but
• 36:11
  Speaker 11: you know Australia has not been probably as forward or
• 36:15
  Speaker 11: as direct as it probably could have been. So in
• 36:19
  Speaker 11: the Nordy corner for the.
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  Speaker 1: Moment, Christy, that picture was priceless. We might try and
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: get it back up, but you look at the smile
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: on President Trump's face. I mean, given all he's been
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: through this week, sitting in the operations room on Sunday,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: the attack on Iran and everything he's been through, he's
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: there with a massive smile on his face, knowing probably
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: that he's going to say to all these jokers, right,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: if you want me to stay in NOTO, you're going
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: to have to up your spending and I'd like you
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: to make it five percent. And Christy, can I say
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: this in these politically correct times, what about Queen Maxima
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: of the Netherlands front and center in that yellow outfit?
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: How good was that? Well?
• 37:04
  Speaker 12: I think it's always amazing to have female representative representation
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  Speaker 12: front and center of international geopolitical meetings, diplomats, world leaders
• 37:15
  Speaker 12: or queens. So I think it's fantastic to see. And
• 37:19
  Speaker 12: I'm going to take your lovely comments stuff within the
• 37:22
  Speaker 12: good will in which they were intended. But it is
• 37:27
  Speaker 12: actually significantly symbolic that the Queen is there in.
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  Speaker 7: The front row.
• 37:33
  Speaker 12: And that Richard Bouts is there right up the back.
• 37:36
  Speaker 12: It's sort of Australia just happy to be there, just
• 37:39
  Speaker 12: happy to gate crash the party because we haven't figured
• 37:42
  Speaker 12: out what our narrative.
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: Is on defense spending.
• 37:46
  Speaker 12: And can I say I heard Andrew Hasty, the Shadow
• 37:49
  Speaker 12: Defense Minister, speaking on the weekend saying, look, we have
• 37:56
  Speaker 12: significant interoperability in defense with the United States. We're about
• 38:01
  Speaker 12: to have the submarine rotation come into Western Australia in.
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: Just a couple of years. We've got the.
• 38:07
  Speaker 12: US marine rotation there there for three or four months
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  Speaker 12: of the year in Darwin. We're a key player to
• 38:14
  Speaker 12: the US in the Indo Pacific against the.
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: March of China.
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  Speaker 12: It's about time we had a mature conversation and that
• 38:22
  Speaker 12: includes working with the United States about Australia's role and
• 38:25
  Speaker 12: what our defense spending capability may be. And perhaps because
• 38:30
  Speaker 12: we haven't done that might be while Richard Miles has
• 38:33
  Speaker 12: just snuck in on the guest list there in the
• 38:36
  Speaker 12: back corn.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's hoping to quote bump into Donald Trump
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: in one of the halls as they wander around in
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the hard I don't think US security is going to
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: let anyone bump into Donald Trump. You'll either have a
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: meeting or you won't, Caroline Anthony Abernez. He just climbed
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: away in today on the President Trump publicly dropping the
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: F bomb after both Israel and Iran violated that cease fire.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to what the President had to say,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: then pick it apart.
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  Speaker 2: We basically have two countries that have been fighting so
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: long and so hard that they don't know what they're doing.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I reckon that's probably up to his popularity rating by
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: about ten percent. It was honest, it was raw, it
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: was what he was feeling, and so he said it.
• 39:27
  Speaker 11: And there's been lots of studies Steve that the people
• 39:30
  Speaker 11: who swear more generally tend to be more honest and
• 39:33
  Speaker 11: more authentic. So, you know, maybe it's a little bit
• 39:36
  Speaker 11: of that, but I think Donald Trump is you know,
• 39:39
  Speaker 11: obviously there's been a significant level of US involvement there,
• 39:44
  Speaker 11: but there is a level of frustration across the board
• 39:47
  Speaker 11: with this tip for tat that has been going on,
• 39:50
  Speaker 11: and this is not a new conflict. The fact that
• 39:52
  Speaker 11: Iran has been a very difficult player in the Middle
• 39:56
  Speaker 11: East is not something that has just happened in the
• 39:58
  Speaker 11: last week. This has been going on for decades. So
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  Speaker 11: I think there's a lot of people that feels the
• 40:06
  Speaker 11: frustration there because people want to get on with business,
• 40:10
  Speaker 11: people want global certainty, people want to know, you know,
• 40:14
  Speaker 11: have some idea of what's going on without the oil
• 40:17
  Speaker 11: price spiking or being able to fly you know, from
• 40:19
  Speaker 11: Australia to Europe.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: So there is a.
• 40:21
  Speaker 11: Level of frustration there and I think that that there
• 40:25
  Speaker 11: is something that people will appreciate. The Prime Minister referred
• 40:28
  Speaker 11: to it as being abrupt, but you know, I mean
• 40:31
  Speaker 11: the Prime Minister has been either missing in action in
• 40:34
  Speaker 11: relation to this issue or has dithered around, you know,
• 40:39
  Speaker 11: not really wanting to answer questions, being all pout face
• 40:43
  Speaker 11: about it. Eddie's press conference either yesterday or the day before.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: So you know what I think.
• 40:48
  Speaker 11: I think Donald Trump's comments are refreshing and you know,
• 40:52
  Speaker 11: probably like a little bit more directness and a little
• 40:54
  Speaker 11: less ambiguity out of our PM.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I did a bit of a deep dive both of
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: you did on world leaders or prime ministers or presidents
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: who have got caught swearing. I should have pulled out
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: old Kevin Rudd when he went far all over some
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Chinese translator who didn't know how to speak properly in
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: front of him. But I found this old vision which
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I thought was fantastic. Back to the White House. The
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: bloke holding the phone is JFK, and he was taught
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: caught on tape. Apparently he could swear like a trooper. JFK.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Have a look at this, and.
• 41:27
  Speaker 13: Force is prided himself more agree with that, Shelley, did
• 41:31
  Speaker 13: you see the poss mining Actually with his picture next
• 41:34
  Speaker 13: to the bed stilly, I wouldn't have him running a crowd.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Christie, he was one of a kind.
• 41:47
  Speaker 12: He certainly was for so many reasons.
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: Steve things that.
• 41:53
  Speaker 12: You wouldn't get away with in this modern error in politics.
• 41:58
  Speaker 12: You know, all add up to the history of JFK.
• 42:03
  Speaker 12: But yes, the integration of American politics in Hollywood is
• 42:07
  Speaker 12: still going strong, though, so can I say as well.
• 42:11
  Speaker 12: Donald Trump's press conference outlined to Mete why people vote
• 42:16
  Speaker 12: for Donald Trump given that the world is so precarious geopolitically. Now,
• 42:23
  Speaker 12: there are people who might be swinging voters who might
• 42:26
  Speaker 12: be not engaged in politics. In the US, they call
• 42:29
  Speaker 12: them low information voters. They're not getting information about policy,
• 42:34
  Speaker 12: they're not informed.
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: They're just looking at social.
• 42:37
  Speaker 12: Media and looking at their clips and they see that
• 42:39
  Speaker 12: press conference and they think, yeah, that guy, he's real,
• 42:44
  Speaker 12: he's honest, he's raw. But can I say, as a
• 42:47
  Speaker 12: press secretary of twenty five years experience working at international
• 42:52
  Speaker 12: global events such as the G twenty and in Canberra,
• 42:55
  Speaker 12: and you know, working with various other international visitors that
• 42:58
  Speaker 12: come to Australia or the UK foreign offers were just
• 43:03
  Speaker 12: about closed out in crisis.
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: If those words or the.
• 43:08
  Speaker 12: Press conference like that was fronted by Australian or the
• 43:12
  Speaker 12: UK Prime minister, even Ottawa, they would probably closed down
• 43:15
  Speaker 12: in Canada too. But America just proving again, you know,
• 43:19
  Speaker 12: it really plays international politics differently, particularly this president, but
• 43:24
  Speaker 12: a lot of people respect those comments that he made today.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: It was great to watch and we carried it live
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: here on Sky Caroline Russo and Christy McSweeney, thank you
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: very much for joining us. Now coming up after the break,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I mentioned gas and the Victorian government, well, Melbourne's hospitality
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: industry they're gutted tonight and they're even considering unprecedented tools
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: down action over this decision to ban gas from new restaurants, bars,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: cafes and all other hospitality venues. I mean, seriously, they
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: are so bad. Welcome back to price in for Andrew
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Bolt this week. Well, the Victorian government's out of it again.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: They tried banning gas on new built homes, but they've
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: had to backtrack on that. But they've decided from January
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the first, twenty twenty seven that all new commercial buildings
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: except for factories and farms, must be fully electric. Now
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: that dates important because the elections at the end of
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. That means all restaurants, bars, cafes will
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: not be able to use gas cook tops, even though
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the government had earlier said gas would still have a future.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Joining me. Now, where's lamb at SEO of the Australian
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Restaurant and Cafe Association. Where's how angry is the industry? Oh?
• 44:39
  Speaker 14: Look, we're taken by surprise. The industry thought that we
• 44:42
  Speaker 14: would be exempted and that we would be able to
• 44:45
  Speaker 14: continue using gas unovated as the state transitions into a
• 44:50
  Speaker 14: more sustainable energy sources. We know that the hospitality industry
• 44:55
  Speaker 14: can't just flick a switch and on the thirty first
• 44:58
  Speaker 14: of December to the first of jam and go from
• 45:01
  Speaker 14: elect from gas to electric. It just won't work. We
• 45:04
  Speaker 14: know that the government is potential gohead.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead, but we know that this is
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: legislation by stealth.
• 45:14
  Speaker 14: We expect that the government's going to try to sneak
• 45:17
  Speaker 14: in with DA's needing approval and so not just new buildings,
• 45:21
  Speaker 14: but also let's say, renovations of restaurants and cafes and
• 45:25
  Speaker 14: take away businesses around the state, of which there's twenty
• 45:28
  Speaker 14: four thousand.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: And the thing is Melbourne tries to sell itself on
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: the fact that you know, you come here for events,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: but on top of that, you've got the best restaurants
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: in Australia, cafes, the best coffee. It's all about food
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: and drink. And yet the government seems to be determined
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: to run so many people out of business. I mean,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: it's just pathetic.
• 45:51
  Speaker 14: Oh look, I was watching your previous segment and I
• 45:53
  Speaker 14: wish I could use the F word in relation to
• 45:57
  Speaker 14: this potential legislation. We are the part to hit industry
• 46:01
  Speaker 14: post COVID in this cost of living crisis. Ultimately, one
• 46:06
  Speaker 14: in ten hospitality businesses have closed their doors in the
• 46:09
  Speaker 14: past twelve months. And with the three and a half
• 46:12
  Speaker 14: percent wage increases coming and the half of percent super
• 46:16
  Speaker 14: four percent hitting hospitality businesses, it's no wonder that our
• 46:21
  Speaker 14: industry is the hardest hit. We had told the Farework
• 46:25
  Speaker 14: Commission that we want ads a two percent increase and look,
• 46:29
  Speaker 14: inflation came in at two point one percent today, so
• 46:32
  Speaker 14: we think we're getting it right. We want the Victorian
• 46:34
  Speaker 14: government to change this legislation and we're willing to do
• 46:38
  Speaker 14: something about it.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Does that something about it? Would it potentially lead to
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: some industry wide protest, as in you might shut down
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: for a dt.
• 46:50
  Speaker 14: Well, look, we are speaking to restaurants and cafe and
• 46:54
  Speaker 14: takeaway businesses around Victoria and potentially we could see a
• 46:58
  Speaker 14: day before before this gas band goes into effect, where
• 47:02
  Speaker 14: hospitality businesses unite in solidarity and close for a day
• 47:06
  Speaker 14: just so the government can see that we do stand
• 47:10
  Speaker 14: up together when poor legislation is passed.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: And the fact that there is so many great little
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: cafes and businesses that have gone out of business because
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: of COVID, I mean, this is exactly what you don't need.
• 47:28
  Speaker 14: Look, ultimately, small cafes and restaurants around the state won't
• 47:32
  Speaker 14: be able to just flick a switch and convert from
• 47:37
  Speaker 14: gas to electric if required to because they're renovating or
• 47:41
  Speaker 14: because they happen to be in a new building. Ultimately,
• 47:44
  Speaker 14: we think this is for legislation and we need to
• 47:50
  Speaker 14: stop the electrification of the hospitality industry while we transition
• 47:55
  Speaker 14: from gas to electric. It's going to take time. It's
• 47:57
  Speaker 14: not something that we can do in just a eighteen
• 48:00
  Speaker 14: short months.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Absolutely essential that you make your voices heard, and you're
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: always welcome to do it here. Where's Lambert? Thank you
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: very much for that. Chari Markson's coming up next on
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: the program Tomorrow, I'll have General Jack Keane talking about
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: that operation in Iran. As I said, Shari's next