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Ohio State Football Insider: 5 Things We Learned Today From Ryan Day · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Wednesday, October, first time
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  Speaker 1: your host Tom, or the Minnesota game in three days,
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota Golden Gophers Saturday night in the Horseshoe seven thirty kickoff,
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  Speaker 1: WBC televising the game, joined by Tony Gerdimanheadle dot com.
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  Speaker 1: We just got a chance to talk to Ryan Day
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  Speaker 1: about the about the game, about the Gophers, about a
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  Speaker 1: former Gopher on the Buckeyes team, a whole bunch of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I think we got to start, though, with what I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of people have been talking about, which
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  Speaker 1: is the red zone and what's going on with the
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  Speaker 1: offense and is it a problem And it feels like
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  Speaker 1: there's not exactly one answer for It's not just like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you just fix this one thing and then everything's great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tom, the good news is it's a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: different problems, so negative plays, penalties, but I think what
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  Speaker 2: we most focus on is getting stopped on the fourth down.
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  Speaker 2: That needs to stop. But like overall, these are all
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  Speaker 2: fixable issues. It would be one thing is if when
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  Speaker 2: the solution is I don't know, maybe we'll try the
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  Speaker 2: running quarterback. That's a problem, and I don't think they're
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  Speaker 2: to that point yet. It's when you're committing a penalty
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  Speaker 2: and it's third and sixteen or third and eighteen. They
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  Speaker 2: got one with the Jeremiah Smith, didn't quite get one
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  Speaker 2: with Julian Sayan scrambling to get to a good field
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  Speaker 2: goal range. Bo Jackson coming up just short on one
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  Speaker 2: of his long runs on a third and seventeen or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: So it's mainly just hey, stay a little bit ahead
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  Speaker 2: of schedule. That way you're not as predictable in what
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  Speaker 2: you're trying to do down there as well. And then
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  Speaker 2: also you know, don't commit penalties and just execute.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the penalties that happened this was not
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  Speaker 1: a red zone penalty, but one of the penalties he
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  Speaker 1: did happen on Saturday was Philip Daniels. He had a
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  Speaker 1: hands to the face penalty where if the opponent's helmet
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  Speaker 1: flies off, it makes it real easy to tell that
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  Speaker 1: you committed a hands to the face penalty. And that
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  Speaker 1: is it feels like it's almost a little bit the
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  Speaker 1: price of admission for Philip Daniels because what do they
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  Speaker 1: love about him? His aggressiveness, but also maybe not too much,
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  Speaker 1: like what if it was like a seven and a
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  Speaker 1: half instead of a nine. This is a big week
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  Speaker 1: for him because he is going to be facing his
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  Speaker 1: former team because he came to a high state obviously
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  Speaker 1: the Spring from the Minnesota Golden Golfers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Tom, you mentioned the price of admission. You
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  Speaker 2: remember the ECW back in the nineties.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 2: If you would go to the game or go go
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  Speaker 2: to the match, you'd go to the event. Just understand
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  Speaker 2: that you're probably gonna have like beer thrown on you
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  Speaker 2: or you're going to get into the fray. That's not
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  Speaker 2: the Philip Daniels is going to be throwing any beer
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  Speaker 2: on you.
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  Speaker 3: Is he going to have a light tube match with
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  Speaker 3: someone this weekend?
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  Speaker 2: There may be some razor wired things of that nature.
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  Speaker 2: Watch out for the two by fours. But Ryan Day
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  Speaker 2: said it about Philip Daniels. He plays to the edge.
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  Speaker 2: You love that as a code until he goes over,
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  Speaker 2: but that you know, you just talked to him about
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  Speaker 2: that and say, hey, we love how you play. Don't
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  Speaker 2: change anything except just change this a little bit. But
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  Speaker 2: it is going to be interesting to see how his
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  Speaker 2: emotions are in check against his former team, and certainly
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna want to show out, but he does anyway, Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna really be any different against
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  Speaker 2: Minnesota than he was against Texas because he's here trying
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  Speaker 2: to prove himself to everybody, and I think he already
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  Speaker 2: believes he's proved himself to his.
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  Speaker 1: Former team well, and I think he's proved himself to
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  Speaker 1: his current team too, because he you know, he was
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  Speaker 1: someone who we went through the whole season saying, well,
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  Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be a year of development away from starting,
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  Speaker 1: and then in the middle of fall camp it was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh no, he's just going to be the guy at
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  Speaker 1: right tackle and it has there has not been a
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  Speaker 1: lot of question or drama or uncertainty around that since
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  Speaker 1: that moment. I do like to go right to the edge,
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  Speaker 1: but not too no, no, no, no, further, it's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's like going to the Grand Canyon, like, man, you
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  Speaker 1: look over the edge and he's like, wow, what an
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  Speaker 1: amazing thing. And you go a little further and it's like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: the wiley coyote thing.
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  Speaker 3: I look down. I was like, oh, this is hell.
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  Speaker 3: Hold up the yike sign.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You know one thing that has had you know, had
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  Speaker 1: them saying yikes is the red zone offense and some
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  Speaker 1: of the struggles there. But Ryan Day was asked sort of,
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  Speaker 1: you know about like looking at the defense and maybe
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  Speaker 1: sort of leaning on the defense, and is that maybe
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  Speaker 1: make some of the offensive stuff less of a yikes?
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  Speaker 1: And this was this was his like every week there's
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  Speaker 1: one where everyone just kind of laughs in the room,
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  Speaker 1: and this was this was that one.
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  Speaker 2: You go ahead and give the exact quote if you
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  Speaker 2: have it, I don't have it because it was just like, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm not happy with like I'm constantly worried about everything,
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  Speaker 2: especially the offense. Just you're not as an offensive coach.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly he's not okay with an inadequate offense. No, don't
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  Speaker 2: worry that the defense will clean it up. Like that's
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  Speaker 2: not something that he wants to have happened for him. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they want to get that better. It is nice to
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  Speaker 2: be able to get your young quarterback sit situated and
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  Speaker 2: get your young running backs situated. Because even when we
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  Speaker 2: talked about Bo Jackson, he said the same thing with
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  Speaker 2: James Peeples. When they're doing this, when they're out there playing,
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  Speaker 2: it's for the first time. They're going through things for
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  Speaker 2: the first time. Both of those guys together.
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  Speaker 3: CJ.
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  Speaker 2: Doninson has done it before, but not here, so this
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  Speaker 2: is all a learning experience. But yeah, you don't want
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  Speaker 2: to over rely on the defense because he is known
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  Speaker 2: for his offenses. And when we talk about unselfish play
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  Speaker 2: calling for Brian Harlan, it's pretty unselfish for Ryan Day too.
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  Speaker 2: I've come to Ohio State, We're gonna score forty five
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  Speaker 2: points every single every single year, every single game. That's
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  Speaker 2: what they've done. And now it's like thirty two points.
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  Speaker 2: You can have to do it because we've got a
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  Speaker 2: long season.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and one of the things that sort of plays
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  Speaker 1: into the thirty two points is the fact that things
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  Speaker 1: are different, like this is not you know, when he
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  Speaker 1: came to Ohio State, you were getting six seven drives
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  Speaker 1: and a half. Now Saturday before they kind of run
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  Speaker 1: the clock out drive at the end. They got six
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  Speaker 1: drives period in the game. Three drives in the first half,
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  Speaker 1: three drives before you kind of run it out time
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  Speaker 1: in the second half.
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  Speaker 3: That's very different. That is a you know, it's it's
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  Speaker 3: like the opposite of.
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  Speaker 1: Going to well, I guess it's the same as going
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  Speaker 1: to a baseball game, except the opposite in the fact
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  Speaker 1: that it's good because that you're not sitting there forever.
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  Speaker 1: This is you know, boy, you could God, the first
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  Speaker 1: time you went to a baseball game after the pitch
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  Speaker 1: clock started, it was like, how are.
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  Speaker 3: We already in the seventh inning? It should be like
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  Speaker 3: the middle of the fourth.
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  Speaker 1: It was kind of the same sensation against Washington, where
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  Speaker 1: it was just like, how was it already three minutes
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  Speaker 1: before halftime? It feels like the second quarter should just
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  Speaker 1: have started. But that's just sort of adjusting to that,
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  Speaker 1: adjusting to the clock rules, adjusting to the pace of play.
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  Speaker 1: Everything has really that's something they've really had to deal
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  Speaker 1: with well.
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  Speaker 2: And we talked about this on Buck I had a
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  Speaker 2: primetime last Monday night with Jack that this is they
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  Speaker 2: had three possessions in the first half. I went back
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  Speaker 2: and looked, you know, nobody can recall a time when
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  Speaker 2: they only had three. They had four in the first
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  Speaker 2: half against Minnesota in twenty twenty one, which is also
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  Speaker 2: a two hour and fifty five minute game, just like
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  Speaker 2: this one, and they had four I believe against Army
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  Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen eighteen, and other than that, like they
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  Speaker 2: averaged just under seven possessions in the first half in
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  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. They had ten or twelve games in twenty
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  Speaker 2: eighteen where they had over seven. They had seven possessions
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  Speaker 2: in the first half. Wildly different game now. And I
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  Speaker 2: remember in twenty twenty three after the season open against
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  Speaker 2: Indiana and the postgame asking Ryan Dave, Ryan, you only
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  Speaker 2: had like nine possessions. He's like, I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna do having so few possessions. The game is
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  Speaker 2: completely different now with this new first down rule, and
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  Speaker 2: now it's like they're averaging I think ten right now,
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  Speaker 2: or look just under ten and it's the norm, and
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  Speaker 2: now you just accept it. And they were three possessions
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  Speaker 2: under that counting the one where they're just running the
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  Speaker 2: clock out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 1: It has definitely been in real adjustment, I think in
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  Speaker 1: terms of looking at individual player stats, in terms of
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  Speaker 1: looking at scores, in terms of I mean rotation, rotations,
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  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. I mean he was asked about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, rotating three running backs, and you know, rotating
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  Speaker 1: three running backs when you're getting sixty five snaps on
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  Speaker 1: offense is real different than rotating and when you're getting
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  Speaker 1: fifty snaps on offense. I mean, there's just all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It changes the calculus on all that changes. It's calculus
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  Speaker 1: on some fourth down decisions probably.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all of that and boy watching that. We watched
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  Speaker 2: Penn State in Oregon, and there's a lot of fourth
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  Speaker 2: downs in that. I mean, when you're trying to maximize
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  Speaker 2: your possessions, you.
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  Speaker 3: Don't want to give it up.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to give the ball back because you
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  Speaker 2: only have so many more possessions. And that's that's an
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  Speaker 2: organ program that will run up tempo. But at Ohio State, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it makes you think, let's let's pick up this fourth
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  Speaker 2: down because we need we have so few possessions. It
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  Speaker 2: is better to end with seven, clearly, or keep them
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  Speaker 2: trapped and just end with three. And so it's it's
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  Speaker 2: interesting to watch them go through this by choice. They
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  Speaker 2: are slowing things down by choice they're huddling, the long season,
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  Speaker 2: all of that. But then you all have to keep
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  Speaker 2: players happy. And I know it's not our job to
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  Speaker 2: keep players happy. Yeah it is, Yeah, yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 2: And trying to find ways to get other players into
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  Speaker 2: that rotation has been difficult.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it is a very different world in
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  Speaker 1: terms of the power dynamics between players and coaches than
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  Speaker 1: it was a few years ago, you know, with the
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  Speaker 1: possessions being as valuable as they are. Turnovers absolutely a killer.
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Innis had to fumble on the punt. Rande was
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  Speaker 1: asked about, you know, is there maybe another person who
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  Speaker 1: might be a better fit there, and he was pretty
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  Speaker 1: definitive on that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's he seems very bullish on Brandon Innis
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  Speaker 2: talked about how he's had two good returns last two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Clearly you can't have the fumble, you can't turn the
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  Speaker 2: ball over, but has been very adamant, like I think
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  Speaker 2: coaches all all coaches love players like Brandon Nis because
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  Speaker 2: the energy and the effort that you can always count
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  Speaker 2: on that it's always going to be there, so you're
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  Speaker 2: always going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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  Speaker 2: And then when they make a mistake. It's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know that, that happens to everybody. You're still doing
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  Speaker 2: well in these other areas. And again, he's doing well
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  Speaker 2: in returns, and the way Ryan Day talks about it,
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  Speaker 2: it seems like he's expecting more. He's expecting. Don't be
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  Speaker 2: surprised if Brandon Innis is building towards breaking one all
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  Speaker 2: the way because he's had a couple of good returns.
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  Speaker 2: Like he said, so you want to keep that momentum going.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly Ryan Day does, because there's no intent on removing it.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: You still may see Jeremiah Smith and Caleb Downs here
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  Speaker 2: or there just because but that's still Brandon Innis's job.
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  Speaker 1: And we talked about how fast these games are moving,
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  Speaker 1: seasons moving pretty quickly to four regular season games down,
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  Speaker 1: which means we are one third of the way through
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  Speaker 1: the regular season. Ryan Day was asked, okay, you're a
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  Speaker 1: third of the way through the regular season. What have
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  Speaker 1: you learned about your team?
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  Speaker 2: The mature and he talked about that that the young
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  Speaker 2: guys are the guys that not even just the young guys,
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  Speaker 2: but the inexperienced guys, the guys who haven't played have
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  Speaker 2: been able to step up into situations and be veteran,
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  Speaker 2: as he likes to say, and they've been able to
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  Speaker 2: they've handled the jobs that they've been given. And so
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  Speaker 2: he's really like the maturity. And that's the one thing
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  Speaker 2: is like, you know, you never really know how good
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  Speaker 2: who are going to be all of these things. But
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  Speaker 2: what he is seeing, what he is convinced about now
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  Speaker 2: as this is a very mature team. And Tom, you
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  Speaker 2: can do a lot of things with the mature team.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: You get guys who sort of know what they're doing
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  Speaker 1: and know how to handle things, and you have the experience.
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  Speaker 1: That makes a big difference. You don't need to teach
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  Speaker 1: the basics, you don't need to hold people's hand to
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  Speaker 1: walk them through it. You can just you know, slap
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  Speaker 1: them on the back and say go get them, go,
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  Speaker 1: get them to so good them kyiger.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, as urban Meyer said to Ryan Day when he
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  Speaker 3: took the job. So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: There is a quick wrap up of what we heard
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  Speaker 1: from Ryan Day on Tuesday afternoon at the What He
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  Speaker 1: ha Is Athletics ceter Make sure you also check out
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  Speaker 1: the video Tony and I did with our rewatch of
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  Speaker 1: the Ohio State Washington game has been interesting takeaways from
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  Speaker 1: that and the Buckeye's twenty four to six win. We're
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  Speaker 1: also planning to do no Michigan game this week, so
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  Speaker 1: instead of a Michigan Monday, we're doing a Penn State
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  Speaker 1: we Wednesday or so the Penn State Oregon game rewatch.
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  Speaker 1: There gonna be some plenty plenty of interesting takeaways from
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  Speaker 1: that one as well.
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  Speaker 3: Franklin Funday, it was not a fun day.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you've gotten to the end of
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  Speaker 1: the game in the rewatch, it was not a fun
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  Speaker 1: day when all is said and done for Penn State.
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  Speaker 1: But between Oregon and Penn State two game, two teams
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  Speaker 1: that I'm guessing Ohio State will play at least once
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  Speaker 1: maybe between those two, I'm gonna guess three games at.
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  Speaker 3: Some point this season.
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  Speaker 1: So well, we'll be talking about that and also have
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  Speaker 1: a preview of the Minnesota Golden Gophers and their game
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  Speaker 1: against Rutgers. Lot's to hear, let to talk about this week,
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  Speaker 1: and of course the usual Ross Fulton Show's coming up
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  Speaker 1: as well. Wat's coming up this week at Buckey Huddle
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  Speaker 1: dot com, a at YouTube dot com slash Fucky Huddle.
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  Speaker 1: That'll do it. For today. Thank you guys all for
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  Speaker 1: joining us. Have a great day. We will talk to
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  Speaker 1: you tomorrow.