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Infinity Song: Live From Tribeca Festival · Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

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  Speaker 1: Pushkin. It's my firm belief that our culture doesn't put
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  Speaker 1: enough stock in family bands. I mean, just think about
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  Speaker 1: the groups that include siblings, Sliing the Family Stone, the
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  Speaker 1: Beach Boys, the Beeg's, hiam Oasis, ac DC, the Jacksons.
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  Speaker 1: It makes sense that Ken would develop uniquely powerful musical chemistry.
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  Speaker 1: After all, a love of music usually does start in
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  Speaker 1: the home, and the same is true of our guests today, Momo,
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  Speaker 1: Abraham Angel and Israel Boyd of the group Infinity Saw.
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  Speaker 1: The four siblings were raised in musical households between Detroit
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  Speaker 1: and New York, honing their sound wherever they could, in
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  Speaker 1: churches and parks, subway stations, even around the kitchen table.
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  Speaker 1: That devotion to performing carried them to bigger stages, guided
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  Speaker 1: by their father and manager, John Boyd, and eventually jay
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  Speaker 1: Z's rock Nation and their fervent love of me music
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  Speaker 1: fuels their unmistakable blend of R and B and folk,
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  Speaker 1: a mix they proudly described as modern day soft rock.
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  Speaker 1: I spoke to the Boyd's siblings at the Tribeca Festival
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  Speaker 1: in New York for a live Broken Record event. We
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  Speaker 1: discussed the role of music and their family, how their
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  Speaker 1: Dad came through in the clutch during a make or
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  Speaker 1: Break meeting with jay Z and graciously they performed a
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  Speaker 1: couple of songs from their album Metamorphosis Complete. This is
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  Speaker 1: broken record, real musicians, real conversations. Infinity Song opened our
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  Speaker 1: conversation with the performance of their song Lotus. It's so
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  Speaker 1: great to be here with you guys, and to be
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  Speaker 1: here with Infinity Song at Tribeca Festival of all places.
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  Speaker 1: It's a storied festival, and I think we're here tonight
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  Speaker 1: with talent that will be held in that regard. This
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  Speaker 1: is a new group and they are already have such
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  Speaker 1: incredible music as you'll see tonight their live show and
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  Speaker 1: this is stripped down is phenomenal. So without further Ado Israel,
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  Speaker 1: Angel Abraham and Momo Infinity Song.
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  Speaker 2: Everything short off th yards say the world.
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  Speaker 3: Listen to you, cans me. You're a love honest flower.
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  Speaker 3: You may be.
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  Speaker 4: Everything nassy and last long.
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  Speaker 5: Again and ye now I know the wonderful love.
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  Speaker 3: And please don't make me want to again.
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  Speaker 5: The appliance is less. Just send me for for because
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  Speaker 5: now it's take the love to say.
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  Speaker 6: Since you don't get for love, settle for.
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  Speaker 5: We could let you because I still go.
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  Speaker 3: Your alone, Flory.
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  Speaker 5: May weed.
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  Speaker 6: Everything last see and last still long.
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  Speaker 5: And now how know ware the food.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe please don't make me laugh again, MANSI.
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  Speaker 5: Place, just let me fall for because I would take
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  Speaker 5: a lot to sais.
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  Speaker 4: Toever I lose myself to love. Then last year, I's fine.
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  Speaker 4: And if you're love, it's just a lie.
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  Speaker 7: If it's telling me lies.
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  Speaker 3: But not let live to me just a crag me
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  Speaker 3: dona not tell him as now I know, beautiful baby, Please.
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  Speaker 1: Don't make me wise.
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  Speaker 3: Man spends some awful because you would say the love
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  Speaker 3: seems since my aness, I would say the scious less.
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  Speaker 3: Just let me all, because I would say.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you so much, thank you, thank youes and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 8: Once again we are infinity song. My name is Abraham,
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  Speaker 8: my name is Momo.
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  Speaker 9: Hey, I'm angel and I'm in Drew and we've got
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  Speaker 9: one more song for you before we get into the evening.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, let's go.
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  Speaker 5: Now here you go again.
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  Speaker 11: You say you want your freeedom, Well, well, my gi me,
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  Speaker 11: it's trying to ride.
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  Speaker 5: You should play away your feeling.
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  Speaker 12: But listen carefully to that sounds a long meess, like.
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  Speaker 7: A harpy jassy man.
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  Speaker 5: Still song never not all want to tell you now
• 9:12
  Speaker 5: as you all know, pray enough place they say A
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  Speaker 5: little man, welcome man when watches you thing you know? No,
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  Speaker 5: I'll go again see the crystal leave.
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  Speaker 6: I came up vi first want.
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  Speaker 13: It's only me who wants you Apparon your dream.
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  Speaker 5: Have you an your dreams?
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  Speaker 6: You like to sell loneliness like.
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  Speaker 14: The Holy Giving in the stool and star remembering, watch
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  Speaker 14: and watch Lounlogynagy.
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  Speaker 5: Wonders mistress when last.
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  Speaker 7: And say, well, man go mad in.
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  Speaker 4: Clean you.
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  Speaker 5: Watch, Let you know, let you know.
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  Speaker 15: Lest too much.
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  Speaker 5: Names mus be racy, let's to much you.
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  Speaker 15: Want?
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  Speaker 5: You don't want? You listen at mess too.
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  Speaker 3: Small Spot sweet team to Scott Spot.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta say, through this job, I've been privileged to
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  Speaker 1: be around a lot of performers. Baby Face comes to
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  Speaker 1: mind seeing him perform up close and personal. Neil Young, Right,
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  Speaker 1: but this is my first time getting a chance to
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  Speaker 1: see you guys, and just getting to see the love
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  Speaker 1: of music that you guys have and the passion you
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  Speaker 1: guys have for performing. It warms my heart because it's
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  Speaker 1: something that I see a lot in an older generation.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't always see the love of performance, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't see I don't always see that passion flowing
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  Speaker 1: through people. When you guys perform, it's evident that there
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  Speaker 1: was probably nothing else you guys could have done, but
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  Speaker 1: be musicians. Do you feel like there's anything else you
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  Speaker 1: guys can I mean, this seems like what you were
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  Speaker 1: born to do.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I guess that's a loaded question in the sense. Well,
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  Speaker 9: first of all, thank you for having us. We've had
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  Speaker 9: many conversations since being here, but this is for you guys,
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  Speaker 9: So thank you justin for having us. We are so
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  Speaker 9: appreciative have the privilege of this conversation. So our parents
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  Speaker 9: raised us, I think, to be able to do anything.
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  Speaker 9: That was a mindset in our family. But so they
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  Speaker 9: raised us to pursue excellence and to pursue being well
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  Speaker 9: rounded people with integrity and character.
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  Speaker 10: But music was the.
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  Speaker 9: Tool that was used to develop that in us. So
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  Speaker 9: I probably couldn't be anything but a singer only by choice.
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  Speaker 9: I could be more, but it's it just wouldn't work
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  Speaker 9: for me. But that everybody has their own answer.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, I would say performance is definitely like one of
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  Speaker 16: the loves of our lives.
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  Speaker 17: We've been performing for so long. It's really funny.
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  Speaker 16: Some people who have seen us perform more than once
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  Speaker 16: know that usually on dreams we actually come back in.
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  Speaker 1: Did I ruin it? Did I come up too soon?
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  Speaker 17: We should have warned you.
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  Speaker 5: I should have come earlier in.
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  Speaker 1: The week and got to the blue note.
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  Speaker 5: I messed up.
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  Speaker 17: So we do like we fake end it, you know,
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  Speaker 17: built the tension, and then we come back.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, let me go walk off this day. I failed already.
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  Speaker 1: I have failed everyone here. I have failed you, guys, myself.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she just wanted to say that, Yeah, that's what.
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  Speaker 16: Okay, you know, if you still want us to come
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  Speaker 16: back and we can.
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  Speaker 1: Bring it back, bring it back, bring it back.
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  Speaker 17: So serious, I want it to come back in.
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  Speaker 10: Don't go no, no, no, you gotta no. This is
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  Speaker 10: a part of the conversation.
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  Speaker 5: Let's you know, you know, cities, the.
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  Speaker 7: Watching, the watch, the watching, the.
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  Speaker 3: Us cher, the house, the lot, hot y log house,
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  Speaker 3: the fine fine.
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  Speaker 5: Fine, spe.
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  Speaker 4: Berg, spurge, urgie, scrge.
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  Speaker 13: Thunder bad, when it's raining, play.
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  Speaker 12: Well, let's say weapon they will come and then well go.
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  Speaker 5: Sh shoes clean.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, okay, so now we have been anything else.
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  Speaker 1: Let's back to the qu not all the hold though
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  Speaker 1: that was worth the public shaming.
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  Speaker 17: All right, that was wonderful, just public informant.
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  Speaker 1: It was a wonderful PSA. I am so glad you
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  Speaker 1: brought that to my attention. Yes, but back to the court.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, there's no way you guys were
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  Speaker 1: born to do this. Did you hear that? Unbelievable but
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  Speaker 1: loaded question, leading question? You guys probably have your own thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 18: I mean obviously there's like you can get into a
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  Speaker 18: lot of philosophy and all that, but I would say, yeah,
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  Speaker 18: we were you know, we were born to do this.
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  Speaker 1: This cover of Dreams is beautiful, you know, and it's
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  Speaker 1: not something that would have been not even that long ago.
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  Speaker 1: It would have been shocking to see, you know, four
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  Speaker 1: black siblings just killing Dreams by Fleetwood Mac. You know,
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  Speaker 1: like because that's in the territory of classic rock, and.
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  Speaker 10: You know, there's so much that could be said.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, it really isn't novelty to us on that
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  Speaker 9: On that side, it's it's real and it's organic to us.
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  Speaker 9: It's music that we enjoy and most importantly, it's music
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  Speaker 9: that we can all come together around. A song is
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  Speaker 9: a song, and a song sure, different cultures contribute songs
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  Speaker 9: to the world, and your different cultures contribute perspectives to
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  Speaker 9: the world, but once it leaves and it's released to
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  Speaker 9: the world, it belongs to the world, quite frankly, and
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  Speaker 9: so you know, unless you're gonna block the dissemination of the.
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  Speaker 10: Creative, Like I like that song, I want to sing it.
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  Speaker 9: That's that's what it is super cool about music, and
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  Speaker 9: we're starting to see it, you know, boundaries and different
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  Speaker 9: cultural and ethnic backgrounds, the way hip hop really got
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  Speaker 9: like the biggest consumers of say hip hop suddenly or
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  Speaker 9: not or not who created hip hop or not.
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  Speaker 10: It's just changed the way that.
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  Speaker 1: It's ship Like blue happened to blues music and everything,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just like.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, suddenly it's for the world, yes, and it's kind
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  Speaker 9: of nice. Yeah, it's a really beautiful way of putting
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  Speaker 9: it that music and music is for the world. And
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  Speaker 9: that was the for so many years, the issue with
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  Speaker 9: putting music in a in a genre and essentially in
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  Speaker 9: a box and done by a marketing team to market
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  Speaker 9: to certain audit you know, and it's like it.
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  Speaker 1: Does it don't even matter, It doesn't matter what Everyone
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  Speaker 1: likes the same stuff. Everyone likes the same stuff, who
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  Speaker 1: doesn't like Dolly part who doesn't like Beyonce, who doesn't
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  Speaker 1: like Whitney.
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  Speaker 17: You know, it's like, come on, yeah, okay, yes I will.
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  Speaker 17: Music is for the world. Music is great, but.
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  Speaker 16: There's still very much an ongoing conversation about genre and
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  Speaker 16: about who's allowed to sing this genre or that genre.
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  Speaker 16: I think specifically, I think Cowboy Carter is a great
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  Speaker 16: example of you know, a woman who grew up in
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  Speaker 16: Texas who really identifies with country roots and has so much,
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  Speaker 16: so much, so much, so much to say in this sphere,
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  Speaker 16: but then wasn't necessarily embraced, you know, because she hasn't
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  Speaker 16: been doing that like full out for years.
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  Speaker 17: And you know, that's.
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  Speaker 3: To be clear.
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  Speaker 9: I think genre is valuable, and I think building a
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  Speaker 9: culture is valuable. So I don't really have too crazy
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  Speaker 9: of a problem with gatekeeping a culture, because if you
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  Speaker 9: build a culture and it becomes potent and important to
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  Speaker 9: the world, I think you can be protective of it.
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  Speaker 9: I think the challenge is, and my thinking is, let's
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  Speaker 9: not be controversial this conversation. I think the challenge is
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  Speaker 9: that it's not equal, meaning the guardianship of genres is
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  Speaker 9: not equal, of course, and the beneficiaries of genres are
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  Speaker 9: not I don't want to go to right, you're right.
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  Speaker 16: But one thing I will say is that specifically, you know,
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  Speaker 16: America is a very.
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  Speaker 17: Particular place.
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  Speaker 1: You are so politic, let's wrap it up, okay, But.
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  Speaker 16: But a lot of the genres, the roots of them,
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  Speaker 16: you know, these genres did not just pop up out
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  Speaker 16: of nowhere in the last fifty years, you know. And
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  Speaker 16: then I think where the problem lies is when people
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  Speaker 16: forget or they're not educated, and they and and by
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  Speaker 16: the way, it's not only like if we're talking strictly
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  Speaker 16: white and black. It's not only white people who will
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  Speaker 16: look at us or you know, someone black and say like, oh,
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  Speaker 16: you shouldn't.
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  Speaker 17: Be doing country, you shouldn't been doing rock.
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  Speaker 16: A lot of times we'll say that to ourselves, not us,
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  Speaker 16: but you know, black people will say that to ourselves
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  Speaker 16: because there just is like a lack of education on
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  Speaker 16: just how the foundation of these genres came to be,
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  Speaker 16: you know. And so I think overall, we just don't
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  Speaker 16: know the history of things, which is why Cowboy Carter
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  Speaker 16: is so cool because now we're getting into the nitty gritty.
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  Speaker 16: Now we're saying, now we're seeing like with the backlash.
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  Speaker 16: It forces all of us to study, to read, to
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  Speaker 16: learn to look past the past like twenty five fifty
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  Speaker 16: years and look really look into like the origins of
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  Speaker 16: these things, right, and then so it then opens up
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  Speaker 16: the conversation for all of us to feel at home
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  Speaker 16: here instead of it being like one person, one group
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  Speaker 16: of people, it's like, no, the evolution of this genre.
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  Speaker 17: Was actually very integrated.
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  Speaker 16: It's a lot of people coming together and just trying
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  Speaker 16: to make something good, you know. And so when you
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  Speaker 16: kind of are forced to look back into the history
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  Speaker 16: of things, I think that's when change is made and
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  Speaker 16: you know, we can move forward because because if we're
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  Speaker 16: if we're listening to like, okay, granted I'm twenty six,
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  Speaker 16: but if we're listening to twenty year olds, they're only
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  Speaker 16: gonna know what's you know, what's been put in front
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  Speaker 16: of their face over the past like ten fifteen years,
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  Speaker 16: if they haven't actively gone and looked and studied. So
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  Speaker 16: we've got to really and the people who are leading
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  Speaker 16: the conversations a lot of times on the internet are
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  Speaker 16: twenty year olds.
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  Speaker 17: So yes, you know, so it's just very very very
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  Speaker 17: you know, it's very layered.
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  Speaker 1: Naturally, that's why a group like you guys is so important.
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  Speaker 1: It's so beautiful, you know. And I grew up playing guitar,
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  Speaker 1: and it was like it was like, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a rock band. You know, people be like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: what the I'm like, well, yeah, I like I like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I saw Hendrix. I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: want to be I groom my hair out. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I want to be Hendrix. You know, I didn't turn
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  Speaker 1: out to be Hendrix. You're closer to him than me.
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  Speaker 1: It's real. But you know, it's like there's there really
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be limitations put on us again not to get
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  Speaker 1: we can move out of the controversial as.
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  Speaker 10: It shouldn't be that controversial.
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  Speaker 9: But I think it's a it's a it's like a
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  Speaker 9: minefield because one of these sidebars you could really say
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  Speaker 9: something crazy.
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  Speaker 10: That's what I asked.
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  Speaker 1: Have you guys met Beyonce?
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, we have. We didn't sign an NDA, so yeah,
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  Speaker 17: we can talk about it a few times, just casually, casually.
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  Speaker 10: There's no such things. No, there's no such thing as
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  Speaker 10: meeting Beyonce casually.
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  Speaker 16: I just mean it wasn't under the like you know,
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  Speaker 16: under like a work environment. So we didn't have to
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  Speaker 16: sign anything.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, well, I mean yeah, for context, you guys
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  Speaker 1: are signed to rock Nation, which is jay Z's label,
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  Speaker 1: which is why I asked if you guys have met
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  Speaker 1: Beyonce is the affiliation? Did you guys play her any music?
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  Speaker 1: Had she heard it?
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  Speaker 10: Or we didn't play her music?
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  Speaker 18: But I believe that we have heard that she has
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  Speaker 18: heard our music. But yeah, it was just an honor
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  Speaker 18: always to meet such an icon and a legend. Always
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  Speaker 18: been very gracious to us as well, and so yeah,
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  Speaker 18: we love her, big fans of her on and off
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  Speaker 18: the stage.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, she's really nice.
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  Speaker 19: And she always points at our eyebrows because we like
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  Speaker 19: Israel has a very strong example of this, but in
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  Speaker 19: our I don't know, in our fan our geens, we
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  Speaker 19: have like an eyebrow flick or something, and I think
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  Speaker 19: she has the same thing. And like in her childhood
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  Speaker 19: pictures you can see she has one eyebrow that goes
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  Speaker 19: really up, so she'll like.
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  Speaker 20: The eyebrows rounds them now always it might be a stretch,
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  Speaker 20: but well, the few times we've met her, she has
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  Speaker 20: been very excited to see that we have that in common.
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  Speaker 17: She's like my cousins.
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  Speaker 10: Please thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would die to have some cons family life.
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  Speaker 1: a broken record co host Leah Rhodse to build a
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  Speaker 1: fall playlist with some of our favorites. Leah, thanks for
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  Speaker 1: joining me.
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  Speaker 21: Thank you, justin I'm so excited to build this playlist.
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  Speaker 1: First song I thought to add to this was Villain
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  Speaker 1: by Anastasia, an artist who just had on broken record.
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  Speaker 1: Her new album Tether is incredible and for me, when
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  Speaker 1: I think about a fall song, I don't think there's
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  Speaker 1: much daylight between what a fall song is and the
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  Speaker 1: song that you might play if you wake up before
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  Speaker 1: everyone else in your house five forty five am, six am,
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  Speaker 1: and put on a pot of coffee Starbucks roast of course,
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  Speaker 1: and then you sit at your kitchen table and just
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  Speaker 1: watch that misclear, watch that sun come up fully, and
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  Speaker 1: you're sitting there in your house in the morning in peace,
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  Speaker 1: like whatever that feeling is that happens when you do that,
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  Speaker 1: like that's what this song feels like to me, so
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  Speaker 1: that that would be my first pick to start us
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  Speaker 1: off here.
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  Speaker 22: Yes, I feel that so deeply, and I feel like
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  Speaker 22: Anastasia especially you mentioned fall songs having rich vocals, and
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  Speaker 22: she has just like such deeply rich vocals.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Leo, what would what would you add?
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  Speaker 22: My first pick would be Simon and Garfunkel's America. Oh
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  Speaker 22: my gosh, there's something about this song. It's just like
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  Speaker 22: so grand and sweeping and you know, thinking about possibility
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  Speaker 22: and potential, and I feel like for some reason it
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  Speaker 22: suits fall.
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  Speaker 1: It fits that it fits that in line. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: know of a question I found myself asking when when
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  Speaker 1: fall hits, like where does the time go?
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  Speaker 22: You know?
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  Speaker 1: And so I felt like a really natural pick for
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  Speaker 1: a playlist like this was Fairport Convention, Who Knows Where
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  Speaker 1: the Time goes, which is also just beautiful, beautiful song.
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  Speaker 1: It's a fall morning for me.
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  Speaker 22: Yeah, sometimes, especially fall mornings, especially if you have a
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  Speaker 22: PSL in hand, you get a little hop to your step,
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  Speaker 22: you might leave the house go on a nice brisk,
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  Speaker 22: crisp walk. A song that I would put on for
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  Speaker 22: that moment would be Tom Petty's Time to Move.
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  Speaker 1: On that's a walking in rhythm right there, that's pick
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  Speaker 1: me up walk in rhythm.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 22: There's something about the tone of Tom Petty's voice too,
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  Speaker 22: that somehow plays into the Fall theme.
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  Speaker 21: It's hard to explain, but I hear it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it feels very familiar, and it feels very warm,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if Tom has such a warm voice and
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  Speaker 1: the songwriting is just you know, unbelievable. Of course, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna add Junior Varsity Cross the Street to this list
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  Speaker 1: because even though this song is much more a beat
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  Speaker 1: than the other songs I've picked so far, it has
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like maybe it's that that almost
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  Speaker 1: cheerleader chant one of the singers does on this song,
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  Speaker 1: but it reminds me of like a back to school moment.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah.
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  Speaker 22: I think it's good to include some of the upbeat
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  Speaker 22: songs too, because for Fall, it's really easy to get
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  Speaker 22: stuck in like a like the cozy, nostalgic, almost kind
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  Speaker 22: of down tempo songs, but there is a feeling of like,
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  Speaker 22: all right, we gotta get going, we're back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's the back to school There is an upbeat.
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  Speaker 1: Fall isn't all slow and languid.
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  Speaker 22: Like it can be it can be fast, it can
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  Speaker 22: also be very moody and kind of vibe. So my
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  Speaker 22: next pick is Ermano Scutierre's Low Sun.
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  Speaker 5: Mom My Boys.
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  Speaker 21: I love these guys so beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the way these guys play, they play with such
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  Speaker 1: feeling and that just gets transmitted right through the record,
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  Speaker 1: Like I love it.
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  Speaker 21: And this is a more contemplative song.
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  Speaker 22: So if you're in the fall mood where you just
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  Speaker 22: sort of want to sit and you want to just
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  Speaker 22: sort of think about where you're going, what you want
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  Speaker 22: to do, this is an incredible song.
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  Speaker 17: For that too.
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  Speaker 1: And it's an instrumental, So you know what I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna pick an instrumental. This is
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  Speaker 1: from the album We three from the drummer Roy Haynes,
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  Speaker 1: pianist Phineas Newborn Junior, and bass player Paul Chambers. Three
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  Speaker 1: classic classic incredible jazz musicians. I'll pick the song Reflection
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  Speaker 1: from the Week three album. There's just like a crispness
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  Speaker 1: to this song and there's like a Christnas to Roy
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  Speaker 1: Haynes playing. I mean, he used to call him snap
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  Speaker 1: Crackle because it's just that the way he would just
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  Speaker 1: hit that snare and hit the ride and the high hat.
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  Speaker 1: So that song feels like Chris fall Day to me.
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  Speaker 1: Plus you know, gotta have some jazz representation on the playlist.
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  Speaker 21: Yeah, okay, So my next pick it's a little bit.
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  Speaker 21: It's a little bit different. Crosby still's a Nash Sweet
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  Speaker 21: Judy blue Eyes, whoa one.
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  Speaker 1: Of the great songs of all. I love that song.
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  Speaker 21: Come on, oh this song again. I don't know what
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  Speaker 21: it is.
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  Speaker 22: It's hard to describe, but something about like the reflection
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  Speaker 22: talking about I am lonely.
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  Speaker 21: It's so beautiful and it has those acoustic tones.
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  Speaker 22: It has all the things that you were talking about,
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  Speaker 22: has the beautiful harmonies, has the vintage feel.
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  Speaker 21: It's a perfect song.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so you know what, I'm gonna round out
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  Speaker 1: my portion of the list. I'll less you have last
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  Speaker 1: pick LEO, but I'll round out my portion of this
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  Speaker 1: list with this great young Newish Australian artist, Grace Cummins,
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  Speaker 1: with the song you gave unbelievable the vocals, incredible, songwriting
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  Speaker 1: is amazing. You know, it doesn't have the patina on
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  Speaker 1: it that like a Sweet Jerty blue Eyes does, But
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  Speaker 1: in my view, it's it's equally undeniable.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 22: Her voice is just so magnetic, it just pulls you in.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Lea, I'll let you round this out. I'll
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  Speaker 1: let you take us home. Okay.
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  Speaker 22: My final pick, I'm going to stick with the Laurel
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  Speaker 22: Canyon scene. I'm gonna go with Joni Mitchell from Blue
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  Speaker 22: A Case of You.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Man, Blue this song, but Blue in general.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, that's the consummate Fall album.
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  Speaker 10: Oh.
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  Speaker 21: Just the songwriting is just unmatched, so gorgeous.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we've book ended this playlist with two great singer songwriters,
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  Speaker 1: Anastasia Joni Mitchell. Incredible voices on the two of them.
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  Speaker 21: Yeah, for sure, I'm going to be listening to this
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  Speaker 21: all throughout Fall.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be listening to them too. If you haven't heard
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  Speaker 1: some of these songs, to add them to your cue.
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  Speaker 1: We'll drop the full play list in this episode show
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  Speaker 1: notes so you can sip on your PSL and enjoy
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  Speaker 1: a soundtrack for the season.
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  Speaker 1: or iced your Rock Nation is such a cool group.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many great and cool artists on it. I
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  Speaker 1: just interviewed Bootsy Collins like last week and they just
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  Speaker 1: picked up like Bootsy Collins and you're like, what, like,
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  Speaker 1: what in the world, Like, it's such a wonderful collection
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  Speaker 1: of artists. What's it like being heralded by someone like
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  Speaker 1: jay Z? You know, because it's like it's an honor,
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  Speaker 1: but it also could be like heavy, I'd imagine, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like one thing.
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  Speaker 10: That it has not been is heavy.
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  Speaker 9: I do have to say that because when we signed,
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  Speaker 9: we signed roughly almost we signed nine years ago as
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  Speaker 9: a family. It was a joint venture between our famili's
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  Speaker 9: company and rock Nation and there was really a connection
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  Speaker 9: between him and our dad that set the relationship off
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  Speaker 9: to a really, really good start, and there was an
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  Speaker 9: understanding there. I can't really speak to it crazy, but
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  Speaker 9: because I think it was like a relationship man to man,
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  Speaker 9: and sure we were there, but there was a trust
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  Speaker 9: there that so it's been very free for us as
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  Speaker 9: a group. So we switched genres. We were doing more
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  Speaker 9: R and B leaning and then we walked into the
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  Speaker 9: label one day and said, we're doing soft rock.
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  Speaker 14: Now.
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  Speaker 10: Can you imagine the freedom that you have to have
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  Speaker 10: to be able to do that.
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  Speaker 9: And early on in the relationship, one of the meetings,
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  Speaker 9: jay Z he gave us permission and empowered us to
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  Speaker 9: run our own race. He said the words, don't try
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  Speaker 9: to catch up to us, wait for us to catch
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  Speaker 9: up to you, and so that that was very empowering
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  Speaker 9: and to set the tone for the relationship. I'm not
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  Speaker 9: going to say that we've never, you know, disagreed on
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  Speaker 9: anything within the label, because that just wouldn't be honest.
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  Speaker 1: Controversially, Brahm, No, no, No.
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  Speaker 9: What I'm saying is it's been a great relationship. It's
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  Speaker 9: worked out really really well. So you have to put
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  Speaker 9: I mean, that's cool. It's a record label, meaning you
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  Speaker 9: have to kind of set the tone in some way,
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  Speaker 9: and you were given permission by you know, this is incredible,
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  Speaker 9: and that's what I That's why I said, of course
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  Speaker 9: we've disagreed, and he said that in the meeting. He's like,
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  Speaker 9: we will disagree on some things, but he said, do
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  Speaker 9: not try to catch up. I want to frame it
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  Speaker 9: in a way that just because you're given permission does
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  Speaker 9: not mean that you don't have challenges. That's more my
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  Speaker 9: thinking in the framing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the change from R and B soft rock, How
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  Speaker 1: does that happen? That transpire within the group? Liked what
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  Speaker 1: made you guys gravitate towards that kind of music.
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  Speaker 19: It's something that kind of happened organically. It's really hard
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  Speaker 19: to when you're trying to figure out how to position
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  Speaker 19: yourself or market yourself. I think you can get really
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  Speaker 19: in your head about what's the right move for me.
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  Speaker 19: It just so happened that I was in a space
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  Speaker 19: where I wanted to keep doing things in life that
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  Speaker 19: felt good. We were posting covers online of songs and
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  Speaker 19: dreams by Fleetwood. Mac was one of these covers that
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  Speaker 19: we posted went viral. Was just a huge you know,
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  Speaker 19: our arrangement of it was so singular, and so when
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  Speaker 19: we put it online, like everybody loved it and we
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  Speaker 19: moved on. We did other covers a few months goes by,
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  Speaker 19: and there was something about the way that we performed
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  Speaker 19: that song and arranged that song. I just remember us
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  Speaker 19: before ever posting it, like coming up with that like
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  Speaker 19: end tag in the back room of our house where
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  Speaker 19: we rehearse, Like I just remember us wanting to sing
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  Speaker 19: it over and over and over again, and being completely honest,
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  Speaker 19: when you're working with your siblings, that doesn't happen every day.
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  Speaker 19: It's more so like you want to stop singing as
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  Speaker 19: soon as possible and move on so fast forward, like okay,
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  Speaker 19: thinking about the future of the band, Like if I
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  Speaker 19: wanted this to feel like something every day, it would
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  Speaker 19: be that moment.
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  Speaker 17: So that's how I.
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  Speaker 19: Kind of framed it in my mind, and I was
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  Speaker 19: thinking about it, I was like, maybe we need to
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  Speaker 19: sing more of that kind of style of music, and
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  Speaker 19: I just presented the idea to everyone else after thinking
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  Speaker 19: about it for a long time. I was like, actually,
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  Speaker 19: as a collective, I think soft rock really does represent
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  Speaker 19: us because it's a genre where we can each collectively
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  Speaker 19: like play to our strengths all at the same time.
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  Speaker 19: It's not one person's you know, in their sweet spot
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  Speaker 19: and the other people are like struggling or whatever. It's
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  Speaker 19: like equally across the board, able to highlight us as
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  Speaker 19: both a group and individuals at the same time. So
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  Speaker 19: everyone kind of was like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 16: I would also say when we did sign to rock Nation,
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  Speaker 16: we didn't really we didn't necessarily sign with a genre
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  Speaker 16: picked out. You know, we like kind of I don't
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  Speaker 16: want to say we auditioned for jay Z, but we
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  Speaker 16: did perform on the top floor for him in the office,
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  Speaker 16: and it looked something like this with a guitar and
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  Speaker 16: us just singing like we did with the guitar. No, no,
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  Speaker 16: Victory was playing the guitar, and then we were all singing.
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  Speaker 16: So it wasn't like we came in with five songs
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  Speaker 16: ready to be played that are in the studio and
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  Speaker 16: they're leaning towards a genre. Like there was no genre
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  Speaker 16: picked out for us, but he more so saw the
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  Speaker 16: vision of us, and he saw similarities.
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  Speaker 17: Between our story and his story.
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  Speaker 16: And you know, he sold his CDs out the back
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  Speaker 16: of his truck and we would sell CDs when we
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  Speaker 16: were growing up, Like our dad would have us in
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  Speaker 16: the studio just working on old songs like hymns and
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  Speaker 16: gospel songs, but also songs that he had written or
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  Speaker 16: we'd written together, and we would sell those like we
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  Speaker 16: would sell them to people on the street, like, hey
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  Speaker 16: want to buy our music, and so like that kind
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  Speaker 16: of foundational drive, I think more is what he signed
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  Speaker 16: us for. So when we did start getting in the
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  Speaker 16: studio and making music commercially. I think it was more
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  Speaker 16: of a maybe a self imposed pressure to do what
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  Speaker 16: felt like it could be commercially viable. Like he never
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  Speaker 16: told us like you gotta do R and B, but
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  Speaker 16: you know, trying to find your legs and trying to
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  Speaker 16: find out.
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  Speaker 17: Like, Okay, it's just a part of the process.
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  Speaker 16: You go through different genres, you go through different things
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  Speaker 16: until you kind of return home, or you kind of
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  Speaker 16: return back to what you've always done, which is melding
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  Speaker 16: our voices together in sweet harmonic ways and writing very
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  Speaker 16: honest and truthful lyrics and finding a place, like Angel said,
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  Speaker 16: finding a place for us all to shine. So we
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  Speaker 16: were never told to be R and B or pop.
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  Speaker 16: It was just kind of part of the process until
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  Speaker 16: we landed to something that felt so natural.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 9: Wait very quickly, there's one aspect of this story that
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  Speaker 9: I feel like I need to tell because people don't
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  Speaker 9: know it. So this might be the first time I'm
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  Speaker 9: telling this story. So key fact, our dad he somehow
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  Speaker 9: got I don't remember how it happened, but he got
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  Speaker 9: in contact with jay Z and he sent him an email.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know how it happened, but we ended up
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  Speaker 9: in the office. Then our dad had a pitch a pit.
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  Speaker 9: He was going to pitch the family to Jay Z.
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  Speaker 9: He brought a deck, a whole deck. Spent I don't
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  Speaker 9: know how many days building this deck, and so we
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  Speaker 9: get in the room. It's just it's it's our family.
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  Speaker 9: It's Jay and it's Tai Chai. And now someone else
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  Speaker 9: was there, and it's our family. And he starts going
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  Speaker 9: through the deck line by line by line by line
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  Speaker 9: by line, and it probably the presentation probably took twenty
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  Speaker 9: minutes or something.
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  Speaker 10: And he was nervous for sure. I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: I would have to ask him how he felt, but
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  Speaker 9: he I anticipate he was nervous by the time he
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  Speaker 9: got done through the deck.
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  Speaker 10: The next thing we were being offered was a record deal.
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  Speaker 10: Like it was instant.
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  Speaker 9: It's hard to put into as we're talking about this
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  Speaker 9: relationship and the nine years and the work and all
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  Speaker 9: of that stuff and our story and our history. It's
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  Speaker 9: pretty crazy and pretty admirable, and it's just a byproduct
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  Speaker 9: of what we keep in mind as we continue forward,
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  Speaker 9: Like I'll never forget that deck.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you should teach a masterclass all
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  Speaker 1: the way. We don't bring that deck out.
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  Speaker 9: That's oh, I just made the connection. Okay, Yeah, Father's
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  Speaker 9: Day is on Sunday. Heavy Father's Day, great occasion on
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  Speaker 9: our fall.
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  Speaker 1: Mister boy After one last break, we're back with the
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  Speaker 1: rest of my conversation with Infinity Song from the Tribeca Festival.
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  Speaker 1: You said, Abraham that you're when you guys were raised
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, hometown band was an asking top
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  Speaker 1: New York. Yes, New York by way of Detroit. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to make that clear because Detroit is
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  Speaker 1: one of the great American cities produce some of the
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  Speaker 1: great American votevocalists, and you guys in some way are
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  Speaker 1: in that tradition and some others as well. But it's
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  Speaker 1: just but you were raised in Detroit and you partially
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  Speaker 1: and you said that your dad used music as an
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  Speaker 1: instrument to teach you guys all kinds of things.
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  Speaker 23: And yeah, he's here, by the way, it's right there,
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  Speaker 23: mister Boyd, And he used it growing up.
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  Speaker 9: But it's also something that he still uses to kind
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  Speaker 9: of mentor us and teach us. He's our manager as well,
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  Speaker 9: so we it's been a tool since childhood and it's
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  Speaker 9: something that is still a tool of learning for us
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  Speaker 9: as a family. So Detroit gave us our talent. New
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  Speaker 9: York gave us our dreams, and that's often the story.
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  Speaker 9: Usually it's hard to break through in the Midwest. The
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  Speaker 9: South has figured it out that the Midwest is not.
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  Speaker 9: So that's our story as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just want to make clear. So
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  Speaker 1: four siblings are here, but how many total were in
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  Speaker 1: the house growing up?
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  Speaker 17: There are nine of us and in total.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a job alled don dad. As a
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  Speaker 1: dad myself, I'm not can only hope to.
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  Speaker 10: Wait, how many do you have?
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  Speaker 4: Two?
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  Speaker 1: And one on the way?
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  Speaker 10: So when when is the new one?
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  Speaker 1: September?
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  Speaker 9: Ooh yeah yeah, yeah, I'm a bar full summer.
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  Speaker 1: This is so many ways, but yeah, I could only
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  Speaker 1: I mean, without pushing music on my kids, I hope
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  Speaker 1: I try to keep the house musical. And similarly, I
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  Speaker 1: hope I'm trying to use music as a way to
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  Speaker 1: teach my kids, not mean that that there'll be musicians,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: but just to teach them that you mentioned integrity. You
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: can learn so much about integrity and character through music
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: and through having a love of music, because it really
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: connects you to humanity and the people around you. Were
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: you guys in a musical house? What was the how
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: or how was it musical? It was clearly musical, But
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: how was it musical?
• 49:15
  Speaker 17: It was musical in the small ways and the big ways.
• 49:19
  Speaker 16: So like waking my dad waking us up by blasting
• 49:24
  Speaker 16: music through the speaker, you know, singing, we're.
• 49:28
  Speaker 17: Just singing really loudly.
• 49:31
  Speaker 16: Or every day gathering around the table and he's beating
• 49:36
  Speaker 16: on the table, using the table as a drum, and
• 49:38
  Speaker 16: he has us improvising on the spot. I remember being
• 49:42
  Speaker 16: so young when my older siblings would jump in and
• 49:47
  Speaker 16: be able to make up words and make.
• 49:48
  Speaker 17: Up melodies, and I was like, will I ever be
• 49:52
  Speaker 17: able to improvise like that?
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 49:55
  Speaker 16: So it was just the household of adapting, learning on
• 50:00
  Speaker 16: the spot, being able to be creative and think outside
• 50:06
  Speaker 16: of the box a little bit. I think that's when
• 50:09
  Speaker 16: you're young, you don't really understand all the lessons that
• 50:12
  Speaker 16: you're being taught, you know. And a lot of people
• 50:15
  Speaker 16: use so many mediums to teach their kids. Their sports families,
• 50:19
  Speaker 16: they are like film family. There are so many different
• 50:22
  Speaker 16: ways to teach your kids these fundamental life lessons. But
• 50:26
  Speaker 16: I think music being our dads, our parents' way was
• 50:31
  Speaker 16: so powerful because that's what you need. You need a
• 50:34
  Speaker 16: spirit of creativity. You need to be able to think
• 50:37
  Speaker 16: on your feet. You need to be able to deliver
• 50:41
  Speaker 16: a riveting performance in other ways in other areas of life,
• 50:45
  Speaker 16: and you know, win people over and speak people's language from.
• 50:49
  Speaker 17: Heart to heart and unite people.
• 50:52
  Speaker 16: You know, there's so many lessons that music teaches us
• 50:55
  Speaker 16: that you only start to realize when you get a
• 50:58
  Speaker 16: little bit older.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I imagine the church as well had to do that
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: for you guys.
• 51:02
  Speaker 19: Right.
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: So for us growing up, we were exposed to a
• 51:08
  Speaker 9: lot of music, but we were not exposed.
• 51:10
  Speaker 10: To all music growing up.
• 51:13
  Speaker 9: So what that means is we grew up really steeped
• 51:19
  Speaker 9: in gospel music, classical music, and jazz, and then fourth
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: it was soul, but it wasn't like all soul.
• 51:29
  Speaker 10: It was like Marvin Gay and the Earth Wind and
• 51:35
  Speaker 10: Fire and like ron Isley. It was a limited list.
• 51:39
  Speaker 9: It wasn't it wasn't it wasn't everybody, and so I
• 51:44
  Speaker 9: think it was by design. Those were really foundational genres
• 51:50
  Speaker 9: that taught us. Music are to being a choir director,
• 51:53
  Speaker 9: having multiple choirs. Back in Detroit, choral music was was
• 51:59
  Speaker 9: key to our foundation. So we really didn't get into
• 52:05
  Speaker 9: pop music until teenage years. Which it's funny because now
• 52:10
  Speaker 9: we do prop me. I don't know, well, how.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Does that happen? How how do you guys go from
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: you know, if the order of operations musically in the
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: home was gospel, classical, jazz, and a smattering of top
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: shelf soul, then how do you guys go from that's
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: your diet to when you guys are performing becoming more
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: of a pop group?
• 52:34
  Speaker 18: I would say Also a big part of it is
• 52:36
  Speaker 18: that we all grew up obviously informed by the same
• 52:42
  Speaker 18: you know route, but we all took different things. We're
• 52:45
  Speaker 18: all different branches of the same tree. So you know,
• 52:49
  Speaker 18: Momo or Abram or Angel or whoever might gravitate more
• 52:53
  Speaker 18: towards one thing, and then I might gravitate gravitate more
• 52:56
  Speaker 18: towards another thing, and I think over time that just
• 53:00
  Speaker 18: that shaped us. You're hearing kind of an amalgamation, you know,
• 53:04
  Speaker 18: Like I remember growing up on gospel and classical in jazz,
• 53:09
  Speaker 18: but I didn't actually like I didn't understand music for
• 53:12
  Speaker 18: myself or even really listen to music. Until I was
• 53:16
  Speaker 18: sixteen or seventeen. So there was like when I was
• 53:19
  Speaker 18: a child and I would hear gospel or classical and
• 53:22
  Speaker 18: jazz in the house and I loved especially like an
• 53:25
  Speaker 18: artist my dad would play, Pat Metheeni was a really
• 53:28
  Speaker 18: big fan of him. I was around thirteen, maybe fourteen.
• 53:32
  Speaker 18: We were doing an interview and somebody asked, what's who
• 53:35
  Speaker 18: are your favorite artists? And I had no idea because
• 53:39
  Speaker 18: I didn't I understood music.
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: I just didn't.
• 53:42
  Speaker 18: I had not discovered it for myself. So I was
• 53:44
  Speaker 18: like Michael Jackson and I don't know, I liked these genres.
• 53:49
  Speaker 18: And then as I got older personally, it was it
• 53:53
  Speaker 18: wasn't so much discovering what I like more so it
• 53:56
  Speaker 18: was like putting faces to the things I already knew
• 54:01
  Speaker 18: I liked since I was a child. So I remember,
• 54:03
  Speaker 18: I don't know if we're supposed to say his name anymore,
• 54:06
  Speaker 18: but Kanye. I remember the first time, first time I
• 54:09
  Speaker 18: listened to him, I was like, oh, this puts this
• 54:11
  Speaker 18: puts a I think the first song I heard was
• 54:13
  Speaker 18: Blood on the Leaves, and I was like, this sounds
• 54:16
  Speaker 18: like you know, it was almost rock, you know, the
• 54:19
  Speaker 18: way he the spirit with which he, you know, wrote
• 54:22
  Speaker 18: that music. And but that's just one example. Then you
• 54:26
  Speaker 18: have just you know, over time, just musicians that I
• 54:31
  Speaker 18: personally gravitated towards that just uncovered what I like and
• 54:35
  Speaker 18: all that. I think that's kind of the thing for
• 54:38
  Speaker 18: all of us. The way, the way we developed as
• 54:40
  Speaker 18: a unit was that we all obviously have the same foundation,
• 54:44
  Speaker 18: but we all are very unique and Infinity Song does
• 54:49
  Speaker 18: not sound like any one of us. It sounds like
• 54:52
  Speaker 18: the collection of us truly. So that's how we get
• 54:55
  Speaker 18: to this. It's like, well, what do you like and
• 54:58
  Speaker 18: what do you like?
• 54:58
  Speaker 10: What do you like? And then it comes to this
• 55:01
  Speaker 10: kind of home.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Is that part of the writing process too, Like someone
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: brings an idea and then each person teases out what
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: their part is, or do you does someone come with
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: a fully formed idea like I believe you wrote pink
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Sky right.
• 55:17
  Speaker 10: So yeah, usually it's someone.
• 55:19
  Speaker 18: Sometimes we write together, but actually we usually write separately.
• 55:23
  Speaker 18: But I think that even in our separate writings, I
• 55:26
  Speaker 18: think we all take into account the ear and the
• 55:29
  Speaker 18: temperament of the other performers, because you know, we're not
• 55:33
  Speaker 18: performing ourselves. So when I write, or when Angel writes
• 55:35
  Speaker 18: or whoever writes. I we just write for the group,
• 55:39
  Speaker 18: not for ourselves, because that's a whole whole different thing,
• 55:42
  Speaker 18: different temperament, different everything.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys had it at one point another
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: sister in the group, Victory, and she did some of
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: the writing too, So I imagine, and do you guys
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: still work with her or are you guys writing with
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: her on any level?
• 55:58
  Speaker 10: We look forward to I think that.
• 56:01
  Speaker 9: I mean, that's our sister, So there's always an opportunity
• 56:05
  Speaker 9: to collaborate, always an opportunity to work together right together.
• 56:10
  Speaker 9: When she went solo, I think there was a real
• 56:14
  Speaker 9: desire for her to build her own sound, and also
• 56:18
  Speaker 9: we had to do a lot of work because Victory
• 56:21
  Speaker 9: is a founding member of Infinity Song and our sound
• 56:25
  Speaker 9: was very much rooted in her musical paradigm when she
• 56:30
  Speaker 9: was in the band, and so we actually had to
• 56:33
  Speaker 9: relearn how we do music when she went solo. And
• 56:37
  Speaker 9: that was a blessing, but it was also extremely challenging
• 56:42
  Speaker 9: in terms of just the anatomy of what do we
• 56:46
  Speaker 9: sound like now? Going from twenty losing twenty percent of
• 56:51
  Speaker 9: the band and then also like fifty percent of the
• 56:54
  Speaker 9: creative DNA that was that was that was very challenging.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: But until you can learn to, of course, reconfigure the
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: creative process and supplement the fifty and become your own
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: and find you right like I imagine you guys now
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: as a four some are finding your path creatively, like
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Metamorphous is complete. It's such a wonderful project. And American
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Love Song is a new song that came out. It's incredible,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: really well written, beautiful song. So yeah, it seems like
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: you guys are are without victory finding it'd be like
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: earth Wind and Fire finding the way without you know,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Maurice or something. You guys are figuring it out.
• 57:33
  Speaker 17: Oh absolutely, I think so.
• 57:35
  Speaker 16: Metamorphosis complete was like completely written by US four, completely
• 57:40
  Speaker 16: written and produced by US four, and at this point
• 57:44
  Speaker 16: it is exactly like, Yeah, it was.
• 57:50
  Speaker 10: A hard year, to be clear.
• 57:52
  Speaker 9: It was one year where we were trying to figure
• 57:54
  Speaker 9: it out and then thank god, we came out with
• 57:58
  Speaker 9: better music than we've ever created together.
• 58:00
  Speaker 10: So it's it's quite remarkable.
• 58:02
  Speaker 17: Yeah, I would agree for.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: You, momo. How what was your sort of trajectory through
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: discovering guitar and finding your voice?
• 58:13
  Speaker 16: So obviously the foundation that we've already you know, disclosed
• 58:18
  Speaker 16: like growing up in the household that I did, learning
• 58:22
  Speaker 16: so much from my dad. But then, as Israel pointed out,
• 58:27
  Speaker 16: like once you, once each of us reached a certain
• 58:29
  Speaker 16: age in like adolescence, you kind of have an awakening
• 58:35
  Speaker 16: like Okay, what do I really want to do? How
• 58:38
  Speaker 16: do I really want to sound? And I remember being
• 58:42
  Speaker 16: about eleven or twelve or something, and the biggest woman
• 58:50
  Speaker 16: singer influence that I had was Victory actually, funnily enough,
• 58:54
  Speaker 16: and I remember thinking, she has the best voice I've
• 58:57
  Speaker 16: ever heard. I want to sound just like her. And
• 59:00
  Speaker 16: you know, I would just watch her warming up, watch
• 59:03
  Speaker 16: her performing, and I would be like, Okay, if I
• 59:06
  Speaker 16: can sound like her, I will be very happy. And
• 59:09
  Speaker 16: that was my only goal. How do I sound like her?
• 59:12
  Speaker 16: Like when people cite their influences and like they say like, oh,
• 59:16
  Speaker 16: I learned this from Lauren Hill, And I learned that
• 59:18
  Speaker 16: from She's one of my initial influences.
• 59:22
  Speaker 17: You know, No, Victory, Okay.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Also Lauren, you said Lauren and that sort of thing
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: about unplugged.
• 59:28
  Speaker 16: In the guitar and no, absolutely I was gonna get
• 59:31
  Speaker 16: to her next because absolutely huge. The Unplugged album actually
• 59:36
  Speaker 16: changed my life. Also, Donnie Hathaway, just excellent in every way.
• 59:42
  Speaker 16: Nina Simone as well, just excellent at what she does,
• 59:45
  Speaker 16: but so unique. Same for Ella Fitzgerald.
• 59:48
  Speaker 17: Like I love vocalists that.
• 59:52
  Speaker 16: They aren't necessarily doing every riff and run under the sun,
• 59:57
  Speaker 16: but they have a very distinct voice. Donnie Hathaway, his
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 16: voice can come on and you know just who that is,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 16: there's no question, and he can stop time, he can
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 16: stop the room. Same for Nina Simone, lingud comes on,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 16: everybody silent, you know, So like that type of grounded
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 16: vocal ability is rare but so powerful. Really inspired me
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 16: when I was like sixteen seventeen and just finding my
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 16: legs and then from there discovering more like current artists
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 16: and being like.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 17: Wait, okay, I kind of like pop, okay, kind of
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 17: like rock that's cool.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 16: Too, and then just taking what I like from each
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 16: of these, each of these artists, each of these genres,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 16: and doing my best to, like you know, as any
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 16: artist does, doing your best to use it all to
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 16: make one one thing for yourself, one lane for yourself.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you guys do your song metamorphosis.
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  Speaker 24: I don't say my oveniance to I'm already sacond guessing.
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  Speaker 3: I can't take a man. The chance is I just
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  Speaker 3: stick to ward the person I guess answer the first impressions.
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  Speaker 15: I gat.
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  Speaker 5: Give me a God, but I do to something ever
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  Speaker 5: to be so much not now, I'm stuck.
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  Speaker 3: On out of mis Sometimes I don't like myself and
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  Speaker 3: I be someone else, someone people makes that dreams not
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  Speaker 3: true and drinks from the way she us, someone that
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  Speaker 3: thy going and never seen to fall list.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes I an't like myself and I be so much
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  Speaker 5: use to get it out of God.
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  Speaker 5: You don't confidence in joint.
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  Speaker 1: I was real scared. I was real scared to come
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: out this stuff. That was great, y'all. I want to
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  Speaker 1: thank Infinity song Abraham Momo Angel Israel shredding the guitar
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  Speaker 1: I was beautiful. I want to think Trybecca for having
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  Speaker 1: broken the record here. It's wonderful live tape. And and
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  Speaker 1: thank you guys for coming out and watching us up here.
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  Speaker 1: It was great to have you guys, and hope to
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  Speaker 1: do this again. Let us do it.
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  Speaker 17: Thank you.
• 1:07:21
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