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"It Feels Like the 1st Time" (Cowboys Preview RD2) EP47 · DMV Mess Hall

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Hi folks, this is Rick doc Walker.
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The d.o.c., this is John kind and you're listening to the mess
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hall with rally captain and tail gate 10.
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What's going on rally? How you been man?
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Hey, I'm always good. Even when I'm not good, I'm
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good. And with that being said, let's
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get it. I hear you there, man.
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I hear you there. I am curious.
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So what, when are you not good? Man.
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At, that's one of the beauties of doing this show with you.
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If I'm in a bad mood. I know you're always in a good
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one. For the most part, even when we
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get our ass kicked, you've always got something to smile
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about. Out or maybe that's just the
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Persona you give off on here. But what I've seen you in person
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and we're getting whooped or something's going on, I still
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always see a smile on your face. So I'm curious what's going on.
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It's called life too, it's like that.
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You see, I'm not this new generation, I drew up getting my
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butt kicked. So I know what it means to win.
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And I definitely know what it means to lose.
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And when you lose, it's not a reflection of you, you just got
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to keep it moving. Is ultimately, I always tell
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people. Yes, I don't like for our team
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to lose, but at the same time, I have so much more to be happy
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about than just an L for adults game.
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That did it? They're getting paid handsomely?
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Not me, they are. Oh yeah.
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No, it costs us money. They are making money off of
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our. Oh yeah, penis and misery for
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the most part. And now I think I told the story
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I want to our past shows about how I sat in my seat crying
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after we lost to the Kansas City Chiefs when they got their first
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win and I want to say a season and a half.
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And that point I realized I can't let this I mean this was
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maybe 15 years ago like I can't let this game affect me and
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there was a picture of me on the Washington Post sports section
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just sitting in the stands with my head in my hands in the
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entire Stadium. Empty.
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Like you know what, it doesn't FaZe these players and they're
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the ones that are actually playing the game.
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I can't let it bother me as much as it had in the past.
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Does it still hurt? Oh.
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Hell yeah. Do I still get pissed?
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You hell, yeah, I know you do too but I can't let it ruin my
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day. My Outlook or affects my outside
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life. Yep.
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It just goes back to All of the since since 2014.
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When I really started to go to gay, I mean home and away games
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and I thought I made an effort and, you know, one of those
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Seasons. We were like three and thirteen.
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And one of the things that people always said to me is,
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dude, why do you want to continue to spend your money on
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a losing product and I said, wait a minute.
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Whose money is it. It's my money and I enjoy
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traveling. The game.
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Once again is just a small aspect of my travels, so I don't
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let it bother me. You know, of course, I want us
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to win every game but we realistically, we can't.
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So been growing up, I didn't win every game.
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So I know how to go ahead and take a back seat and put my
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feelings. He's behind and just smile man.
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I mean because if I smile that's going to make somebody else
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smile and I saw you smile and say yeah contagious for I'm
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smiling because we got something look forward to this weekend and
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I'm not talking about Cowboys versus commanders.
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Yeah, I'm talking about hanging out with my boyfriend smooth.
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And it's got a Kitchen and Bar I'm rocking their hoodie right
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now. For our friends at Woodbridge
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Collectibles, they've got a signing with Fred.
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Been hyping this thing up for the past couple of months and
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it's finally here it was kind of in limbo because the game wasn't
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declared date-wise yet. It was either gonna be Saturday
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or Sunday. Well, when we lost and when
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Dallas finally had someone to play for, they decided to move
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the game to Sunday at 4:25 the Eagles, and the Giants are
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playing the exact same time that way.
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No one can kind of Tanked the game to try and help the other
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guy out or vice versa but the good news is That means that
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Smoot is going to be at Guy Fieri's Kitchen and Bar.
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DC downtown and Chinatown where they're connected the Verizon
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Center signing autographs, taking pictures.
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And I'm sure having a couple of cocktails with our listeners and
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anyone else that feels like showing up and that's the
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beautiful thing about fresh smooth.
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I mean he always gives back and look at the other.
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Good thing is, you know, all of his autograph said he's going to
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be signing or 25 bucks, you know, they are Have a flexible
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will have their items like a jersey.
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They'll be signed for like $70 a buy 10 photos, $35 they'll have
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a sorted, many helmets and they're going for 65 upward to
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$150. So, if you're not busy Saturday,
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Saturday, January the 7th from 12 to had Guy Fieri's Kitchen.
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And Bar, you might want to stop by and say hello to Fred.
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Have a cocktail. And hamburger or something like
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that burger and fries. And Have a good time with
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everyone. Yeah.
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And for those who don't know, there's the sports book
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underneath and connected to die for you.
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So you could go there, watch the 1:00 NFL games, watch the
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earlier games, put a couple of bets down, hang out and then
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maybe pay for your season tickets next year, you know, or
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maybe pay for some of those SP events dotnet trips, while man
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rally next season. So, go on out there, go support.
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Fred. More importantly, goes for
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Trowbridge Collectibles, but they've got something else.
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One on two man, you got a details on that well so yeah.
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So for all of my 10, a man fans. And for those who don't know who
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you should note and a man is Santana, Moss Santana Moss is
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actually going to be in Pembroke, bingo hall, and that's
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in Lansdowne Center in Virginia Beach and he's going to be there
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Saturday, February 25th. And the time it hasn't been
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determined just yet, but just put this on On your calendar,
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February 25th at the Pembroke, bingo hall sports card comic
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books and they're going to have a collecting show, collectible
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show. So and that's going to be in
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Virginia Beach. So for all of our listeners down
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to Virginia Beach, or if you are planning a getaway down in
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Virginia Beach, stop by Saturday February 25th.
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At the Pembroke. Bingo hall to see Santana Moss
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and Santana Moss. The beautiful thing about him is
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he will be able to tell you a story while signing something in
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anything that he signs is going to be $30.
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Can't believe. We're also going to have a
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Howard Johnson, a baseball player and Dwight Gooden there.
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So I mean to be able to get Dwight Gooden there, too.
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I mean we got all types of fans and people from all different
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types of sports listening. If you got any Baseball fans out
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there, it's going to be a big show.
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It's not just new a Collectibles there, going to be a part of it,
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go out there, check it out. The guys, had a great showing
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where Clinton Portis down there. Last time in babic.
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I mean, we're going to Collectibles, is doing some
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bearings and we're happy to be affiliated with them.
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We're thankful for them as a sponsor and we're not doing
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anything postseason wise. Granted it's February 25th, but
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I might think about taking a trip to the beach just to get
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the hell away from this DC, whether I'm definitely thinking
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about it. It, but we know who rolls.
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Oh, oh, you get a break. We definitely do.
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And you know who might be getting a break this weekend?
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We got a lot of commanders on this injury report so for those
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wondering it's Wednesday January 4th, it's for 12 in the
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afternoon, man. Looking at this list, this is
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who wasn't a practice today. It actually might be easier for
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me to tell you who was at practice, but this is who wasn't
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at practice. Brian Robinson, not there.
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Antonio Gibson. Not there.
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John Allen, not there Benjamin st.
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Juste, not there, Kim curl. Not there Jamin, Davis.
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Not there. Andrew Norwell not.
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There said he Charles Cornelius. Lucas and James Smith Williams.
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So if you're counting, we've got our rb1 and rb2 out.
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Does that mean they won't play this week?
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No but for me if they're banged up or even questionable why risk
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it you know you got Jerry Patterson Jonathan Williams with
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those guys get reps. John Allen hasn't hyper-extended
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knee, he was all with the sports junkies, There's Tuesday
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Morning, talked about how he was okay but this game means nothing
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this weekend. I don't want John to risk
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further injury. Hurry Benjamin st.
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Jude's has not been healthy and weeks.
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What does bringing him back vs? Dallas gets you other than maybe
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some pride, the new one on here. That's kind of shocking to me is
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Jamin, Davis. So what are we gonna do at
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linebacker? Because we got no call Holcomb
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and we put John Bostick on IR. So it's it's David mayo and
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maybe rally Captain. Suiting up at Midfield playing
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linebacker. I don't know, man.
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Not a pop. I don't do this.
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This know, Andrew Norwell. So the offense, a lot of might
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actually do better this week without restarting guard, but
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Cornelius, Lucas is out. So we regardless, we got a lot
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of guys banged up this week in a matchup that technically means
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nothing. It's Dallas week, so would
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always mean something but realistically.
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What do we get out of this game? Huh.
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My man, my man. That's all I can say.
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You know, that's all I can say. And here's the thing, Dallas
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still is playing for something. I'll be at the.
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Commander's may not be paying playing for anything.
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Dallas is playing for something, so they are going to bring their
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a game and you know what I was against the kids started.
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Ting, but I got bashed. I got hit over the head so you
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know what? I'm like Ron Rivera go ahead and
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start the kid. You didn't want.
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Nobody wanted to start the kid. Even Logan Paulson said don't
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start the kid but be Mitch beat him over the head.
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JP Philly beat him over the head, I heard Angela Hall beam
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over them over the head, everybody beat him over the head
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so you know what have at it guys?
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All I'm going to say those are don't know what rallies talking
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about Sam. How All is officially starting
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on Sunday. Now, let's backtrack here.
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A little bit. Last episode rally, and I got
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into a debate on. Should Howell start or heinicke?
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Start, those of you haven't listened, go back and listen, I
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don't know what the hell are you, doing you killing us right
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now, if I just go back and listen, fast forward rally
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wanted heinicke to start and then howl to come in.
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I wanted how to start the entire time.
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Well, today at 9:03 a.m. Jeremy Fowler from ESPN.
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Sent out a tweet, said, the commanders are expected to turn
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back to Taylor heinicke as a starter for Sunday's, season
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finale verse the Cowboys. But rookie quarterback, Sam
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Howell is also slated to play marking the NFL debut for the
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fifth round, pick per Source, barring change of plans, this
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will be the setup. So all of DC went crazy because
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it was up in the air. No one really knew yet, we knew
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what should happen in our own minds, but no one knew With the
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official thing was and Ron Rivera likes to leak to the
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National media. What he wants to do, he doesn't
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want to reward. The local beat reporters for
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whatever reason. So he'll tell Adam schefter
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something. But not tell John Connor, I'm
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who's been covering this team day in and day out, you know,
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hours upon hours which makes no sense to me and part of why I've
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got an issue with Rivera. Well, Jeremy you were wrong and
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Ron Rivera, came out, and change his mind.
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And this is actually what coach said today during his press
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conference this afternoon Well, our plans that we're going to
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start with Sam. You know, I spoke with the the
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coaches talked to some of the team leaders and, you know, and
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talked with some others about it.
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And it'll be feel that this is an opportunity for us to give
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Sam a chance to show us what he's capable of.
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I think that, you know, the opportunity is going to be a
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good one for him to go out and play football and just kind of
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show us. I mean, you know, we're not
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going to judge everything on Sam based on just one game, we are
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going to get an opportunity to see him and see how Prepares and
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gives himself the opportunity to play.
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So question for you, do you think he changed his mind
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because of all the social media backlash?
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Or do you think he changed his mind because it's just his
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prerogative? He changed his mind because he
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got brow, bidden Eagle. He changed his mind because
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everyone and their mom, except for the captain and Logan
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Paulson said, don't started. But so everyone basically gave
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their opinion and I heard some good reasons why they should
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start him. And I and I my thing is this,
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I'm not gonna go against it, you know, if it's once again, it
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goes back to not being that invested anymore.
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So, Before I was trying to spare the kids feelings.
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So basically what we had in preseason was you said it.
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We had thirst ringers playing against thirst.
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Ringers will now, but it looks like we're going to have thirst
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ringers playing against her stringers.
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So that's what yeah, that's exactly why we're going to have
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third string is playing against first ring is now, can they
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still win this ballgame? Yes, they can't.
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Because you know why they can win this ballgame because Dallas
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plays down to their competition. They always do.
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And you never know, Sam could squeak out a win, Icarus it,
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highly unlikely got around, it's highly unlikely but he could
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squeak out a win. So somebody said trial by fire
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and I said okay that works in movies but not in real life.
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So everyone you're going to have your wish and all I hope is that
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the kids succeeds in shows. You what everyone's been saying
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that he needs to show so according to Ron, Ron, this is
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who changed his mind. Uh-huh.
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Their Dimension, you kind of slept on.
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It other thing, I knew he was there.
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Someone in particular that changed your mind or made a
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point to you. That was like, oh, that, that
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resonated with you. There were several people, I
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talked to that, that gave me some some, some ideas, and some
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thoughts. And and I really, you know, I
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just wanted to make sure I was I was weighing all the options and
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opportunities and reasons why I'm here Zach.
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There's enough reasons why to stardom and enough?
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Is why not to? And and it's just a matter of at
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the end of the day, he's going to get an opportunity to play.
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Why not? Just start from the beginning
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more so than anything else and you and I talked about this
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before. But for those of our listeners
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that didn't go back, it's like my reasoning to start.
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How was this game means. Nothing you need to get
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experience. Somehow get experience in a game
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that cannot hurt you in the standings.
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Us or anything long-term? He eventually needs to
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understand the speed of the game, the speed of the game in
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an actual game. You cannot replicate that in
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OTAs minicamp practice or training camp.
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So you can only get that in a game.
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Going against your defense, gets you.
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Nothing running scout. Team gets you nothing other than
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mental reps and basically you're working on footwork and things
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like that. So start him because this game
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It means nothing. You had other fans out there
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that said, you know, well let heinicke play and then we'll
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just go to hell which is what you said my rationale to not do
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that is odds are we are going to be down at that point in time
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when you put Howland, And then you're going to give the Cowboys
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a chance to not care what you play call meaning you're going
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to have to pass the ball. So there's no sense of allusion
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to the play calling and granted, it's Scott Turner.
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So there isn't any way, but there is no threat of the run.
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If Hal comes in and we're down by two scores you know that
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you're gonna be in a passing situation.
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So a defense won't stay true to a play-action fake.
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They won't stay true to a or a bootleg and a rollout or this
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and that they're just going to pin their ears back and come
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after the kit. I want to actually see how they
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do know granted with a patchwork offensive line and with other
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receivers and tight ends that won't be starters down the road.
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But right now and I'm not a fan for tanking by any means you win
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every game but right now you have a chance that is somewhat
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Priceless to see what not just Hal but what other young men Can
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potentially do given the opportunity.
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And this is what Rivera said when he was asked that question
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about, who else? Who's looking forward to seeing.
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Yeah, we're going to look to play some of our younger guys
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and get some opportunities, you know, and see who they are.
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And we'll go from there young guys that we want it, we want to
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get some more opportunities to put them out on the field.
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Chris Paul is a young man that we want.
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We want to take a really good. Look at want to continue.
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Look at those young tied in. Ends.
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You know we know who the receiving group is you know
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defensively we got some young defensive linemen.
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We want to take a look at will get a chance to see them
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continue and some of the young DVDs.
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It sucks. Don't get me wrong.
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This is this sucks, man. It's Dallas week.
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We're honoring, Sonny Jurgensen. And this is a preseason game.
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Basically that we are going to go witness on Sunday where our
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stadium is going to be 80% Cowboys fans.
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Yep only I can say today it is hey brother you rub that Crystal
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Ball but had that lamp and a genie came out he gave you your
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wish bro. But here's my question I asked
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you Sure. And this goes to our listeners
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as well. Now, how well would you say
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seven months to eight months? Would you retain what you learn
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today but you say, you would retain it pretty much.
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You would remember. If I'm going through a bunch of
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different reps constantly. Yeah, I'd say I would pretty
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much retain what I've gone through.
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Now it also depends on what we're talking about.
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Are we talking about, you know, rocket science or we talking
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about algebra? Hey you know me man.
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Just your general if a girl told you her name.
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Would you remember it? Almost seven to eight months
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from now. Probably not because I'm
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horrible with names, but not I hear you.
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I get your analogy, okay? All right, brother.
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All right, do you think that this one game is going to carry
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Sam over until the new year? And he's going to say oh you
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know what? I do, remember seven months ago,
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eight months ago when I played Dallas that this happened, I
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don't think that it's going to transfer over it.
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Very rarely does from from season to season.
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Now, don't agree with you with that aspect.
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It's not about That transferring over.
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It is about getting experience. So I'm going to, I'm going to
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change this up a little bit, right?
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All right, so you're a young rally, right?
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And, you know, when we talk about what year we talking,
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we're talking about a young rally that hasn't been with
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another person before, right? This is, you know, this is
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Virgin rally coming out. Oh, all right, so we're going
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there. Okay, you remember Your first
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time, right? And you remember the speed and
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how it went and everything else. The first time, it's about
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experience. And the moving on from there,
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Sam needs to get that experience and that first time out of the
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way. So then the next time he can
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improve and then improve and improve more from that and you
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get better and better at it. I would agree with you if there
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was hypothetically a month, low three-week low, I would agree
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with you on that, but dude, Eight months from now, it's not
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8 months, old man, seven, it's not game games.
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No, Caesar start OTAs many camps.
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These guys do not have a speed boat.
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Any can't is not gaining speed, not as much.
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We're talking with game speed, and that's what I'm talking
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about. Now, once again, hey, the young
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man is going to start. And I wish him the best.
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I'm going to say a couple prayers for them once a week.
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Once we get off of the podcast and before the game I must say
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some prayers from but I do not believe in my humble opinion
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rally Captain only because I can only speak for myself.
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I don't see how he's going to. Yes, he is going to say.
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We can maybe talk to his grandkids.
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One day guys I started against the Dallas Cowboys in 2023,
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okay? But as far as going back to And
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I say, hypothetically September, 14, September 11th.
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Whenever the first game of the season is, I don't think this
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game is going to mean a hill of beans to him means, bro, I don't
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agree. It's you have to get experience
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somehow. You have to get those reps,
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somehow, it has a start. And this is actually what Rivera
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said on, you know, why wasn't it an automatic decision Ron?
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What have you seen from Sam this season to get to this point?
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What was your Recovery without sharing too much.
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What was your conversation with Sam?
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Like, well, I will say this, you know, my initial was, like I
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said earlier, to Ben's question was, I thought about going with,
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with Taylor and actually talk to him about that and then after
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having an opportunity, to rethink a talk, with some other
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folks, about it, talk to some of the team leaders and other
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players and coaches for that matter.
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It really came down to finding out, Out about the young man.
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So when I sat down with him, we talked about it, it was excited
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and I said look you know, just you know you're ready and he
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was. Yes, I'm ready.
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I'm ready to roll. Well, if you go back and look
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when when Carson was first injured and had surgery, you
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know, he became the primary backup.
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So Watching Sam every day and getting a chance to watch How We
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performed against the defense and those little detail things.
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I talked about that, I felt he had to work on coming out of
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training camp. You could see that he was, he
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was doing those things, he was, he was working, he was getting a
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feel for that and a lot of times, you know, when you're,
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when you're doing scout team, you know, that's a good
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indicator. As to How guys can can can
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develop and grow and it was very interesting because a couple of
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guys that I talked with today, one of the things that they did
24:26
say was they felt he was ready for his opportunity and this
24:28
would be a good chance to watch him.
24:30
So I think this is that was a big part of the reason too as
24:33
well as it just how people felt based on the things that we saw
24:37
during that stretch that, you know, those five and a half six
24:41
weeks, that that he was the primary backup.
24:43
You got a chance to see him compete every day against the
24:45
number ones. so my bad wrong clip but that's what Ron saw in
24:51
Howell to allow other people to change his mind to allow other
24:56
players to change his mind and John Allen actually said on the
24:59
sports junkies that it would make sense to see somehow in
25:03
this game didn't say start because he's not going to offend
25:05
heinicke or whence or anyone else but in order to make sense
25:09
so Rivera From my standpoint, I have been against Ron Rivera for
25:14
the past two seasons because I don't think a coach Centric
25:19
approach is the way to long-term success for this franchise, or
25:23
any franchise. And for those that don't know,
25:26
the hierarchy goes, Ron Rivera and then his GM's and everyone
25:30
else reporting to him. So Ron Rivera has the long-term
25:34
vision of this franchise and the short-term vision of this
25:36
franchise in mind. Nine out of ten, franchises have
25:40
a GM that have the long-term vision and then you have a coat
25:43
for pouring to that GM. Your GM is setting you up for
25:47
the future. Your coach is setting you up for
25:50
immediate success. Well, the fact that Rivera had
25:53
to go to his players and people outside the organization to help
25:58
him make, this decision shows that he is incapable of being
26:04
the head guy in this organization.
26:06
But regardless, he's here, he's what we have.
26:09
He's not going anywhere this year 2024.
26:12
I'm throwing a party when Rivera gets fired, which sounds
26:16
absolutely horrible, but I will be happy when he is gone because
26:20
that means we can finally move out of limbo as a fan base.
26:24
Hopefully now a lot of people that asking did Dan Snyder get
26:28
involved in this or Tanya and this is what Rivera said, did
26:33
ownership get involved in this or was it strictly coaches?
26:37
This is this is, this is this was done.
26:39
Bye. Everybody in that office in that
26:42
facility. And a couple of special people
26:45
that I rely on for their input. I'm not one of those special
26:52
people for anyone that just heard that is wondering, trust
26:54
me. They hate my ass over there.
26:56
So he definitely didn't listen, honey.
26:58
I thought you may have cooked them something and he said, you
27:00
know what, sure just had brought it to me.
27:02
I'll I'll mix, and I'll be seeing his daughter, but now
27:06
ever you keep mentioning Logan and one thing About Logan.
27:09
I respect Logan. We played his Clips here.
27:11
I listened to the take command podcast.
27:14
I used to have a TV segment over Redskins Park.
27:17
You cannot say what you really want to say about this team when
27:22
you are over there and you're working over there.
27:25
So you obviously listen to be Mitch and family today and for
27:28
those of our listeners that don't know their own 1067 a fan.
27:31
We're talking about Brian Mitchell and JP Finley.
27:34
You heard DeAngelo Hall. Come on and talk about that he
27:38
wanted howl to play. At least I'm assuming you did.
27:41
Yes. So you heard D Hall?
27:43
Come on now. It's funny that for those that
27:45
don't know, D, Hall used to be the play-by-play guy inside the
27:49
booth with Bram and Julie on the team's radio broadcast, you get
27:54
neutered doing that. You cannot say really what
27:58
you're thinking because part of your paycheck is coming from
28:00
that organization. So I'm sorry out of all do.
28:04
Spec to Logan. When he is talking about wanting
28:07
heinicke to start over how, and for these different reasons,
28:11
they have an agenda that is given to them by people in the
28:15
organization and will be with you on that big.
28:19
When I am looking to buy a car or a TV or whatever it may be,
28:26
I'm not looking at the website from that manufacturer to see
28:30
their reviews, I'm going to third parties Sites or looking
28:36
at different stuff. So, try and understand is this a
28:38
good product? I'll listen to, you know, Brian
28:41
Mitchell, all listen to DeAngelo Hall, all listen to John Connor.
28:45
I'm and other people when we're talking about the commanders and
28:47
then I will come up to my own decision.
28:49
Based upon that feedback when I'm trying to get information on
28:52
the team and Julie's a friend. I'm sorry, I don't go to their
28:56
programming. It's not where I get information
29:00
for anything on this team because it is biased.
29:04
Unbelievably biased, talk about skin tangibles from Larry
29:07
Michael for 20 plus years. It might be not be called Skin
29:12
tangibles, but it's the same thing, it's still biased.
29:16
I remember the skin tangible soda water.
29:19
So, do I and I miss Marianne here shows, but you know what?
29:22
Yeah, I hear you, man. And one of the whole reasons.
29:26
Why I D Angelo had to leave. He decided to leave because he
29:28
could not report what he says was it was true reporting for
29:32
the for the team because like you said, There's a confident
29:34
interest basically. I mean so I get it and no I'm
29:40
not getting paid from the team. So I feel I can't say what I
29:44
want to say and and I felt that, you know, hey the kid shouldn't
29:51
start, you should bring them in not necessarily after the game
29:54
is blown away because whether okay, so something that you said
29:59
that I'm thinking about, you said, why bring a man, when all
30:03
they're going to do, Pin your ears back or the game is pretty
30:06
much at a point where all they can do is pin their ears back
30:08
and go after him. Well, now that they know that a
30:11
Rooks in they're really going to pin their ears back and go after
30:15
them. So nothing is going to change.
30:18
Its going to be the same thing. So not necessarily because you
30:22
you have the threat of the Run game.
30:24
If the score is zero zero or if it's still a one game score, if
30:28
the score, if you're down by 14 points, you lose a third of a
30:32
run game. You have the Threat of
30:34
potentially Jonathan Williams or Jerry Patterson on a draw.
30:38
You want to come after me, then this will truly tell us and
30:41
granted Scott Turner's bad at his job.
30:44
But this will truly tell us how bad Scott Turner is because if
30:47
he cannot adjust his game plan and dumb it down and simplify
30:50
it, you know, a Dallas is going to do Dallas is playing for
30:53
something Robin. One of our listeners actually
30:56
said, well, maybe Dallas will be playing their starters.
30:58
I hate to break it to people that don't follow what's going
31:01
on in football, but Dallas is Has 12 and for the Eagles are 13
31:06
and 3. They games played at the exact
31:09
same time because if the Eagles lose to the Giants, and if the
31:13
Cowboys beat the Commander's, then Dallas will be five, and
31:16
one of the vision, giving them the tiebreaker over the eagles,
31:20
giving them the NFC east and a home.
31:23
Playoff game, Dallas has everything to play for.
31:26
So they are not going to be easy on us.
31:29
They're not going to cut us a break.
31:31
So those fans that were hoping and wandering, sorry that ain't
31:35
going to happen. So this game means everything to
31:38
them and that's why they're being played at the exact same
31:40
time and will truly get to see. Now Scott Turner can call a
31:45
draw, he can call a screen, he can do some different things
31:49
inside there to slow down that Dallas Rush.
31:51
Maybe an end-around, something to keep those defensive ends
31:54
honest. Now we didn't do it week,
31:57
whatever time we played him earlier on the season.
31:59
So are we going to do it now? Now I don't know, the good news
32:02
is the Cowboys, don't have tape on Sam.
32:04
How they have his college tape, which does not translate.
32:08
So that is one thing we have in our favor, where they've already
32:11
played heinicke, a handful of times and they know what to do
32:15
to stop him. So that is a positive and
32:19
potentially you know how helping us win this game but for you it
32:25
wasn't a slam dunk to start Sam. How for the same thing for Ron
32:28
Rivera, this is actually what he said about it.
32:30
Why? Obviously.
32:32
Was some talk about Taylor and then next what, what, what does
32:35
it come down to and what was some of the, I guess, maybe
32:38
concerns with just automatically going to say?
32:40
Well, I think first initially is obviously, it's, it would be his
32:44
first start and it would become a little bit of a circus, you
32:47
know, having to deal with all the things that come with being
32:50
a starter. But also, you know, you look at
32:54
the the opponent and who you're playing and what they're playing
32:58
for, you know, going with Taylor would have given us an
33:01
opportunity to see what What they're doing, how they're doing
33:03
it and would have given Sam a chance to take a look at it.
33:06
You know, if we had gone with Taylor but you know at the end
33:09
of the day you know some point, if Sam ever gets the opportunity
33:12
to be a starter, this would be the chance.
33:14
Why not get it over with now and go from there.
33:16
But the most important thing is that we're really intrigued in
33:19
terms of watching and seeing what salmon can do as a as a
33:22
quarterback in this league. So you encourage we're on the
33:27
same. Wavelength, you guys were
33:28
thinking the same thing, you know, go to heinicke.
33:30
Go to heinicke. And it does not surprise me if
33:34
that's why they changed his mind.
33:36
And Eric Bickel from the sports junkies actually tweeted this
33:40
out earlier. Let me see if I can find it and
33:44
it kind of cracked me up when he did this.
33:46
And those who don't know, Sports junkies or the local Sports,
33:49
Talk station had been on for over 20 plus years.
33:53
And this was after John kind said that this will be
33:58
interesting to see who takes first quarterback reps of
34:01
practice while the heinicke. Hal combo was a definitive lien,
34:04
could still decide to just go with how lots to consider EB.
34:09
Put a smiling Emoji. Laughing so predictable, Ron
34:13
floats Taylor starting, then here's the backlash and now is
34:17
backtracking Ron should run for office.
34:20
He'd fit right? In embarrassing.
34:24
Baby Rivera would have an easier job getting speaker of the house
34:28
and Kevin McCarthy but that's a different podcast.
34:32
I gotta tell you man you know, as some point time You stick to
34:38
your guns and that's why I said that, I do believe that his
34:46
tenure here is up. Rivera.
34:49
Yeah, not not this year but next year because I don't know.
34:53
A new uh new owner will come in and I'm sure changed things when
34:57
that if and when that happens but you can't flip flop dude.
35:02
You just can't agree ants and so that flip-flop just shows
35:07
uncertainty and if I'm a player, how can I realistically get
35:12
behind that, you know, and I listened to what the some of the
35:17
players said. Well, Talking about San
35:19
Francisco and how he brought went sin because he thought he
35:22
was gonna provide a spark and the body language did not concur
35:29
with the the verbal. So II just saw that all day
35:33
long, but here we are and he changed it and I am hoping that
35:41
Sam how gets 200 yards rushing on scram just like Daniel Jones,
35:45
eats us up. I think that that's going to
35:47
play Evie into this game. It's gonna have to be the game
35:51
plan for Howell to use his legs because we're thin and offensive
35:55
line. We're going to have Chris Paul
35:56
coming in potentially playing, and he hasn't played all season.
36:01
So, comedian The Comedian. Chris Paul is actually Chris
36:04
Paul. The comedian's actually good
36:05
friend of mine. I miss him big time, man.
36:07
Let me too. So he used to do the Redskins
36:10
songs. I'm W PG C for those who don't
36:12
know, but he's he could probably block a couple people cheering
36:16
man. I mean this is a Dude, you have
36:20
to dude? Yeah, yeah, I think Stiles.
36:22
Not as offensive as Hefty but yeah, I hear what you're saying
36:25
so it's just no offense quiz to me if you're listening.
36:30
Well, this is actually what Hal said, was his biggest challenge,
36:33
this Sunday, practice Reps versus regular season wraps,
36:37
obviously, completely different. Would, what do you think is
36:39
going to be your biggest challenge on Sunday?
36:42
Yeah, I mean, I think just trying to get the game speed.
36:44
Nothing gained speed, always a little different and I haven't
36:47
played a game. And It says the preseason but
36:49
I've been I've been staying locked in mentally to the games
36:52
and trying to play the game from the sideline each and every game
36:56
you know. It can be hard at times but I
36:57
feel like I've done a good job at all year long so I feel like
37:00
I'll be all right, you men. So it's those mental reps that
37:06
they're like to talk about when you got a guy that's sitting on
37:09
the sidelines that you know, gets a shot to come in.
37:12
And we saw what Carson did with those mental reps when he got in
37:16
for that Browns game. After getting them all those
37:19
weeks don't make me laugh. Do I mean if I was a reporter
37:24
out of aspirin and we talked about this on on, on the
37:26
previous pot, out of aspirin, are you guys practicing your
37:30
silent count? With all the Cowboy fans that
37:33
are going to be in FedEx Field. Are you Peggy practice your
37:35
style account with Sam? I mean he's got a lot of take in
37:38
but have is that one of the things you practice because I'm
37:40
telling you, it's gonna be loud. Oh yeah, it's it's going to be
37:43
loud. It's going to be ugly.
37:45
It's going to rain on till is it there?
37:48
They moved us to 4:00 and they're talking for 60% chance
37:53
of rain. Now, in the afternoon.
37:55
So my boys sent me a screenshot. Like I, well, it's going to rain
37:59
in the afternoon thinking. A perfect.
38:01
We got a nine, a m-- tailgate. Damn the move the game, the for
38:05
the tailgates at noon, we're probably going to get some rain
38:08
on us, so we'll see what happens there, but it's not going to be
38:13
fun, man. But at least we have, I guess
38:16
from my standpoint, at least I've got something to look
38:18
forward to in seeing, what, how can do potentially, and by no
38:24
means and Rivera said himself. He is not going to be judged on
38:27
this one game, but seeing what? Only quarterback.
38:32
You have under contract can do next.
38:35
Season is a positive heinicke is not under contract.
38:40
And RG3 actually, said this on the sports junkies on Monday
38:44
during his interview. They should not bring heinicke
38:47
back. They should let heinicke.
38:48
Go reason being if you bring in another veteran quarterback, the
38:55
second he throws an interception and I'm paraphrasing but the
38:58
second ethos, an interception or the second, he does something
39:00
wrong. Wrong everyone.
39:02
On those stands is going to start yelling for hynek, so he
39:06
will not get a fair shot if hi, Nicky is the backup because you
39:10
have fans like subah and others out there that think that
39:14
heinicke is the future. I'm sorry.
39:17
I hate to break it to you. Anyone that has actually played
39:20
football and has watched this game and understand what's going
39:23
on knows it. Hi, Nicky is not a starter in
39:25
the NFL. He is a 500 quarterback and a
39:27
serviceable backup. So they're saying let If you
39:31
walk and I agree, you should let heinicke walk.
39:35
Before the season started, I stated that highly key should
39:40
not be on this team next year. And Sam Howell will take his job
39:44
as backup quarterback because highly gives you free agent.
39:47
Why Pay heinicke What Howell can do?
39:49
And the comparisons is Howell is heinicke with an alarm.
39:55
Okay, how will come on. I agree.
39:58
I definitely agree with you, man.
40:00
You, you won't hear any Any disagreements from me on that
40:03
end of the spectrum. And I'm once again, and I'm
40:06
going to speak this into an awesome.
40:07
I hope the kid does well Sunday in the rain.
40:11
I hope he does. And I'm looking, I'm actually
40:14
now, I'm looking forward to it. So I've jumped on the tailgate
40:19
Ted bandwagon and now I'm ready to see what the young man can do
40:26
whole Harley. And I'm not, I'm not being
40:28
funny. I'm not being facetious, I'm
40:30
seriously. Now, Want to see what you can do
40:31
because the talk is their cars, going to come in and be the
40:35
veteran quarterback, you know, that's, that's they're talking.
40:37
I don't know how true that is, but no one knows.
40:41
Yeah, well I'm saying no one knows, but everyone's saying
40:44
that that the most likely landing spot for their cars
40:47
commanders. So we're going to take it one
40:50
step at a time, get past this Sunday, see how the kid does.
40:54
And then we'll talk about that at a later time.
40:57
But I mean, I'm interested to see how he really does.
41:00
I want to see Him. I want, I want to see him, be
41:04
able to adapt to the speed of the game, and be able to get it
41:10
done with his legs, and he's fresh.
41:12
He's young, he's spry. So he's got, he's got that that
41:16
scared, you know, that that fight or flight.
41:19
He's got that inside of him, so more, so than I think, heinicke,
41:22
or wince ever would have had so. So he's gonna be on his toes.
41:26
Matter of fact, you know what, I'm calling him.
41:28
I'm calling him Willie. Beamen, he's he's he's really,
41:31
he's Willie Beamen for week 18 for the Commanders.
41:35
Hey, when we had a successful career, granted it was a movie
41:39
but you know, he had a successful career, he threw his
41:41
arm out but going back to Derek Carr real quick.
41:45
For those that don't know. He's under contract until 2025
41:49
for the Raiders and you're not doing one saying that.
41:52
A lot of people are that have heard that a lot of people have
41:54
heard people talk about it. He's got a 35 million dollar cap
41:59
number next year, the Commander's would have to trade
42:03
to get him. We already gave Gave up two
42:05
draft picks to get Carson rounds, mmm.
42:08
At a certain point, you only have so many draft picks, so
42:11
that's what scares me. And this is actually what Rivera
42:14
said about qb1 next season. And now that you've been in the
42:20
coach Centric Philosophy for three seasons, just what are
42:24
your thoughts on how it's gone? And if anything has caught you
42:28
off guard or something, you've particularly enjoyed about that
42:31
structure for the franchisor? Well, I think the biggest thing
42:33
that you know, that that's been the toughest thing right now is
42:36
really being able to to solidify the qb1 spot.
42:41
I mean, that's that's something that we're continue working
42:44
working. I Believe been said that this
42:47
off season, he'll be helping us to For the qb1.
42:51
And that's the thing that we got to do.
42:53
I mean, that's, that's, I was asked that question, you know,
42:56
about 89 weeks ago. What's the difference?
42:58
Well, that's the ones position that we've got to solidify your
43:02
going forward more so than anything else.
43:06
So, you have heinicke, who is an unrestricted free agent at the
43:10
end of this year and you're talking about, still needing to
43:12
solidify qb1. So to me, that means heinicke
43:17
ain't qb1. But what scares me is that means
43:21
that Ron Rivera and this inept staff is going to be looking for
43:25
qb1 next season. And is it Sam how I don't think
43:28
so. I don't think Sam, how is a long
43:31
term for this team. He was a fifth-round pick the
43:35
odds. I'm just Going on odds, the odds
43:37
of a fifth round pick that's after Sunday will have only
43:41
played one game in the NFL being your long-term starter.
43:45
They're not good. But does he have the potential?
43:48
Yes, he has potential. But you're going to have to
43:51
bring other quarterbacks in to compete with him because you
43:54
only have one quarterback on the roster.
43:56
So if we win on Sunday we get the 20th pick in the NFL draft
44:01
if we win. If we lose we get the 10th pick
44:05
in the NFL draft. So, can you get a better
44:08
quarterback at 10? Yes, obviously horse.
44:12
But is there going to be a good quarterback of 10?
44:14
I don't know. And that's for a different
44:16
podcast down the road when we talk about the draft and have
44:19
some other people on that, follow that stuff.
44:22
But there are going to be at least two other quarterbacks on
44:26
this roster going through next season because you just need the
44:29
competition. How just can't throw every ball
44:31
to ever receiver and he doesn't even have a rapport with Terror
44:35
McLaren. And the other guys.
44:36
So this is actually what he talked about working with Terry
44:40
and Curtis and Jahan. What's your report like with
44:43
Terry and Curtis some, some of those receivers that you might
44:45
not have had so many reps with over here?
44:47
Yeah, me not today, really in. Practice is my first time you
44:51
get an opportunity to throw those guys and they're both
44:54
they're all three of them are really good players.
44:56
I got the hood Jehan some when we first got here as rookies,
45:00
but Tarin Curtis written out that much.
45:02
So it's fun to get out there with those guys and throw those
45:04
guys couple balls today and what be working hard all week to make
45:06
sure we have to have our time, right?
45:08
And everything. I'm trying not to laugh but for
45:13
those of you out there that were thinking, about putting a couple
45:15
of bets in on, Terra McLaren for any yardage or anything like
45:19
that. I would hold off on that because
45:22
I don't think Terry's going to get a lot this week.
45:26
But more importantly, this is actually what Rivera said about
45:30
Terry and some of the guys actually playing for the game.
45:34
Well Terry and kind of the receivers play, a full workload
45:37
like to support our work for the most part you know they'll come
45:40
in they'll play. And as the game unfolds we'll go
45:43
from there. So I think that means Terry's
45:47
going to start will tarry finish the first quarter.
45:50
I don't think so, unless he keeps us in the Ballgame 00, you
45:57
know, it's still, I still don't see it.
45:59
And what I do see is you can prop in.
46:02
This is not a gambling podcast, by any means.
46:05
I mean, I've hit maybe four or five bets for 17 weeks, so don't
46:09
listen to me. But Sam Howell did play with d
46:14
Ami, Brown. At UNC so yummy, brown has been
46:20
kind of a bust so far. They do have a connection.
46:23
You can probably get D. Ami, Brown on a couple of prop
46:27
bets for cheap out there to actually get him to pay out a
46:29
decent amount. I'll see if I can pull up fan
46:31
duel right now, and see what it says.
46:33
So that might be a play for those of you out there that like
46:36
to gamble, or if you're going to go to the Fred smooth signing at
46:40
Guy Fieri's over there by Caesar Sportsbook, maybe think about
46:43
putting a bed in on Diaw. Me Brown for a couple of yards
46:48
but you said This is Not By Any Means A gambling podcast.
46:51
So don't listen to me because goodness knows I've lost some
46:56
money so I'm going to just stay, stay mom, mum's the word on this
47:01
one. Did.
47:02
I'm leaving that alone? Brother, I don't worry.
47:04
I just want you to know in case you were thinking about putting
47:07
a bed in Ontario or some of the other guys.
47:10
This is an evaluation game and I don't think that you're going to
47:15
see Terry out there. Long.
47:16
I don't think you're going to see Curtis Samuel out there for
47:18
long or Jehan out there because why risk those guys getting
47:23
injured in week 18 in a meaningless game and then they
47:27
don't even have a lot of time to heal or get better.
47:31
So what do we have to look forward to?
47:33
We got to look forward to potentially a Young quarterback
47:37
starting and making the most out of his actual appearance.
47:42
This is actually the fifth consecutive season that we have
47:45
started. added three different quarterbacks mmm-hmm And it's
47:52
all looking at. Yeah go ahead.
47:54
I was just going to tax all I can do is just SMH.
47:56
Hmm and that's the problem is we're going to be in this
48:00
predicament looking for different quarterbacks until we
48:04
find that one and it's like winning the lottery.
48:07
The Mega Millions. I bought four dollars worth of
48:10
tickets. I'm just guessing I didn't win
48:12
because I saw that, no one want. I might have got four bucks.
48:15
I haven't looked at the ticket yet but then you're a winner.
48:19
Yeah, I don't think it works that way.
48:21
The winner if you want four bucks a year winner, man.
48:24
Yeah, I said I might have I haven't actually looked at.
48:26
Yeah, but, you know, it's just this was a tweet from a Denton
48:30
day that and does some stuff on 1067.
48:33
So if Tara McLaren catches a pass from Sal hats am Howell
48:36
Saturday or Sunday? That will be the 10th
48:39
quarterback to throw him a pass in, not even for four years.
48:44
I mean, that's just how crazy our quarterback situation has
48:47
been here in Washington. And we're in qbb purgatory, for
48:53
whatever reason. And I know you saw that.
48:56
Well, I'm assuming you listened to the clip from Married with
49:00
Children that be Mitch and JP point on their show, or did you
49:04
not hear that? I didn't hear it.
49:07
All right. So, let me see if I can pull
49:09
this up on here and it's actually kind of funny because
49:14
The Simpsons usually kind of predict what's going on?
49:16
Well, this was a clip from Married with Children.
49:19
And those that don't know, that was a TV show.
49:23
That was on years and years and years ago on Fox.
49:26
That was kind of, I guess, raunchy if you will re see
49:32
raunchy. Yeah, so this was Al Bundy and I
49:36
apologize for anyone that gets offended by this, Here we are
49:47
boys, City of Brotherly Love, that's Philadelphia.
49:54
Well, what's Washington the team without a quarterback that was
50:02
from 1994 and it's 2023, right? In saying the same thing is
50:08
still going on. That is man and Grant Paltz and
50:12
put out a list of all the quarterbacks we have.
50:14
I've had since the year 2000 and I don't want to extend the
50:19
podcast longer than an hour and a half.
50:21
Well, let's just say look at the YouTube because you can see the
50:24
list of names. If I keep scrolling on here and
50:27
it goes all the way back to Brad Johnson.
50:29
So yeah. Yeah.
50:32
All I can hope is just like you that the young man does.
50:36
Well and doesn't get hurt or embarrass himself with a butt
50:43
fumble or something like that. Well, you better have some Red
50:47
Bull, give him some wings or all he does.
50:50
Is he checking? So he might have some wings
50:52
before the game and that might help him out.
50:55
Yeah, I'm hoping he throws up like Willie Beamen and he can,
50:59
he can make things happen. I'm I like I said, man, I'm
51:02
looking forward to this. I really am.
51:04
I wasn't at first but then again I guess I look forward to any
51:08
commanders game. So kind of want the season to be
51:11
over on our last show and wanted to get this thing over with I
51:15
bet still stands brother. Oh no that's still stands but
51:19
but but I can separate it you know I mean I can think on my
51:22
left brain and the right brain. So my left brain says get that's
51:26
get out of here and pack her bags, little Puerto Rico, but my
51:29
right brain says, okay, Sam. Shh me what you got, show me
51:34
what you got and he's going to show us in three days and a
51:39
wake-up. So, do you think he has anything
51:41
to prove this week? Oh, I definitely think he has
51:44
something to prove because here's the thing.
51:47
If he wins the game, he can pop his collar and say, you guys
51:51
should have given me a shot a long time ago, but you slept on
51:54
me, which will put egg on the organization's face and Ron
51:57
Rivera. But it's already there.
51:59
I mean he's got a lot of little specks put more egg then how
52:04
about that? The other thing is he's going
52:09
out. He Everything is beta 4 o'clock
52:13
game is almost like a prime-time game.
52:15
It really is for people who don't have DirecTV and the and
52:20
the sports channel, you know, you the Red Zone.
52:24
But you want to see is well, what this kid can do, people
52:27
wanted to see what Purdy could do and they saw it.
52:30
We I think we first witness pretty in a prime-time game, or
52:33
it was, it was maybe the second game was a prime-time game.
52:36
We saw him. And all eyes are on him.
52:39
Well now all eyes will be on Sam and he's at home.
52:46
He's playing in a semi his crowd.
52:49
So, you know, I would have any tickets he bought for his North
52:53
Carolina crew or wherever he's from the to Casting him.
52:55
Start, I just found out. I bet he is though.
53:00
So we need to, we need to check in and and see what he's going
53:04
to do for his fans to come support him.
53:07
Him. Yeah, I asked them on the
53:11
interview if he bought me tickets yet.
53:12
He said, he hasn't seen his phone and he hadn't.
53:15
He did not know until later on that.
53:17
He was actually starting. So he actually hasn't bought any
53:20
tickets yet, but he's gonna have to, and good news.
53:23
Is the tickets still aren't unreasonable?
53:26
You're looking on StubHub. You've got lower level tickets
53:28
in 129 for $136. I'm kind of shocked that better
53:33
that sheep, so I think Sam can afford that.
53:37
He's Fifth round pick. So he doesn't really have a ton
53:39
of cash but Club level and you got to Club level seats for $143
53:45
right now, each but $143 for Club level for the Cowboys game.
53:50
Damn, we're going to get flooded man of these tickets or this
53:52
cheap, but something, you know that is kind of curious.
53:56
This is actually what Sam said on what he has to prove.
53:59
Generally, what do you what do you hope to prove in your in
54:01
your one game here but with the seasoning?
54:03
Yeah I mean I really try not to worry about what I have to prove
54:05
to people you know at the end A I want to prove to my teammates
54:09
that I can I can I can do this job and I just want to prove to
54:13
them that I'm capable of playing in the NFL and really more than
54:16
anything. I just want to prove to myself
54:18
you know I know how hard I've worked my whole entire life to
54:21
get this opportunity. So I was going to go out there
54:23
and make the most of it. That's all we can ask for this.
54:27
Young man has been playing this game since he was a kid, you
54:30
know? And you get your dream to
54:32
actually start an NFL game. I had a guy that I played High
54:36
School football with that actually was drafted in the NFL
54:41
and then that actually got to play on the then Redskins.
54:45
Never took a snap never did anything, but he still has that
54:48
Jersey and he grew up in this area and went to high school
54:50
right around here. So it will always have that and
54:53
for Sam to actually have this chance you know, to start
54:56
Because a lot of people project Sam how to be a first round
55:00
pick, he dropped to the fifth. Now this was a first round
55:04
before that last season and started but based upon his arm
55:08
and this is Madame but he actually has the strongest arm
55:12
in the NFL at the beginning of the Season.
55:14
According to that it's just he's a short guy, same thing with
55:19
heinicke, he sure except he's got an arm and this is kind of
55:23
unfair because we asked our listeners.
55:26
Earlier, when that tweet went out, that Rivera had decided to
55:31
go with heinicke. Do you agree?
55:33
We got a couple text messages. So one that we got is from Mike
55:39
from Hampton Virginia. Mike, make sure to check out
55:42
Santana Moss in February down there.
55:44
I know Hamptons not too far from babic, but like I said, I like
55:49
what we're doing at quarterback this week and let me tell you
55:51
why. The thing would be to just start
55:54
how and see what he's got, but after the season, we have to
55:57
figure out quarterback and not just qb1.
55:59
We have to figure out the entire to be depth chart.
56:02
Maybe they want to see how th response to being benched in a
56:04
big game. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think
56:06
this is a job interview for Taylor for next season.
56:09
I like a franchise quarterback, but I love to keep th on the
56:12
roster and I believe the coaches would too.
56:14
But, let's see how he responds to verse before making that
56:17
call. I don't understand the job
56:23
interview, he's played a season and a half, he's playing more
56:30
than an entire football season. We know what Heidi can do that.
56:33
It was his job interview and hopefully that interview was
56:37
good enough for a different team.
56:40
Now, I told you how I felt. I don't want to see heinicke on
56:43
this roster next year. What about you?
56:47
Well. There's a part of me that feels
56:52
that Sam is going to be qb1 and Taylor's going to be key to the
56:56
backup. That is what I feel.
57:01
Now granted don't go by what the captain feels.
57:04
But that could be a possibility and he is interviewing basically
57:11
Sunday. So if he kills it, They're going
57:15
to put that quarterback talk to bed and it'll be Sam and Taylor
57:20
since we know that Carson ain't coming back, the good news.
57:24
Would that the positive about that if that scenario does come
57:27
to fruition, that means we don't have to spend a Draft pick on a
57:31
quarterback. But more importantly this
57:34
coaching staff that is most likely going to be gone.
57:37
In 2024 will not have wasted a Draft pick on a quarterback
57:41
because coaches that come in want to pick their own.
57:45
There's no Parcells. I want to pick the groceries.
57:49
So, if you have a coach that comes in that did not draft this
57:52
guy, then, they might not give him a fair shot.
57:56
Now, the other flip side of that coin.
57:59
Brian, Doyle did not want Daniel Jones.
58:02
This was the first year in that system with that new Giants head
58:06
coach and they've got the six seed in the playoffs.
58:09
So it is doable to actually do bad.
58:13
One year, get a new coach. Ouch and then bounce back and go
58:16
to the playoffs. The Giants are doing that right
58:18
now. The Lions, you know, are doing a
58:20
damn good job, it's just right here in our own little hell.
58:27
We don't have the proper Personnel, guys, making that
58:30
decision. So I hope you're right man, I
58:32
hope that that is the case. So we get a chance to invest
58:35
because we need a new offensive line.
58:37
We need linebackers, we need, you know, some more depth in the
58:42
secondary. There's a lot of things at this
58:44
team. And this was actually a text
58:48
that we got from another one of our listeners and let's see, I
58:51
think this is from Robin. She said, here, start heinicke.
58:56
Let him receive a well-deserved starting bonus.
59:00
That let Wentz finish out the game when, and yeah, she said,
59:05
whence finish out the game and I don't agree.
59:10
I, you know, it doesn't make a ton of sense to me about that.
59:15
That because number one, John Connor.
59:16
I'm stated if Carson Wentz gets hurt, he gets four million
59:21
dollars on his number next year. So when's is going to be an
59:24
active heinicke, is the start of this week.
59:27
So sorry. Hide-a-keys the back up this
59:29
week whence, should I even make it to FedEx Field is the last
59:33
thing we need is him to trip and a railing fall on them.
59:36
And there's an injury settlement that's going to count against
59:37
the cap. Yeah, we we need all the money
59:40
that we can get because we're going to see a revamped o-line.
59:45
Have a huge feeling about that. A huge, huge, huge, huge great
59:50
feeling about a new Old Lion coming in.
59:53
I hope you're right man. Because there's a couple players
59:56
on that offensive line that you know, are somewhat questionable.
59:59
And this is once again for a podcast down the road.
1:00:02
But, you know, Charles Leno has not impressed me to end the
1:00:06
season at all, and he's got a 12 million dollar cap number next
1:00:11
year, but I think they can cut them for 8 million and Save.
1:00:15
Vermillion on that cap. So there's a lot of different
1:00:18
moves that they can make without having to risk.
1:00:21
Potentially, you know, giving some of these older guys, some
1:00:25
of that cash and maybe Chris Paul coming in can do it, maybe,
1:00:30
you know, Cornelius, Luke is having played some of these
1:00:33
weeks can show you Sam, cosme, moving in a guard.
1:00:37
So, there's a lot of questions that we're going to have to help
1:00:40
answer and also asked next season, when we're talking about
1:00:44
the Anders, but who has to have that would Collectibles
1:00:50
signature player moment this week for us to win this game?
1:00:57
Well, it's going to be easy for me to the rookie.
1:01:02
I'm putting away. I'm putting the weight on his
1:01:05
shoulders. No, if ands buts about it, he
1:01:10
touches the ball every play besides the center.
1:01:14
So it's on him. He wanted it everybody wanted it
1:01:18
make it happen. How about everybody?
1:01:21
There were I think a couple of people on our poll that wanted
1:01:25
I'd like you to start. Let me pull up the final numbers
1:01:27
on that pole, but the majority of the people the majority of
1:01:31
people wanted him. So we he's here he's we got it.
1:01:35
So let's do it it makes It do what it do and play your best.
1:01:40
So make your reads to the best of your ability.
1:01:44
You know read-option whatever you want to call it.
1:01:48
I hope that he does well because he because you know what it will
1:01:52
also shut me up to it because I was one I was one of the ones
1:01:56
and out the captain will eat some Crow.
1:01:58
All right, I don't have a problem eating crow.
1:02:00
If he does. Well, I'll come back on the next
1:02:02
show and say everybody. All right my hands down to you.
1:02:06
You guys got it and I'm actually hoping that that happens.
1:02:09
I really am now. There's nothing now.
1:02:11
There's another part of me that you Brought up a good point.
1:02:16
I draft status. I remember when we went to Miami
1:02:20
a couple years back, Miami, did they played just good enough to
1:02:25
let us win and their draft went your stock went to pull you down
1:02:31
and ours went up. So I'm hoping that we played
1:02:35
just enough and I hate to say this, don't take this the wrong
1:02:37
way, but I'm talking about draft picks here.
1:02:39
I hope we play just enough to lose his game so that we can
1:02:43
Build in the through the draft at number 10, I agree with you.
1:02:47
I don't think it's going to. I don't think that's up to the
1:02:51
Commander's. I think that's up to the Cowboys
1:02:54
realistically. I don't think that anything we
1:02:58
do is going to get us a win this week.
1:03:02
Based upon the names that I said, the beginning of the
1:03:04
podcast who are out. No, Brian Robinson is a
1:03:09
gigantic. Blow through this offense of
1:03:12
identity. The way we won those games.
1:03:15
Be Rob had 15 or more carries and we are 51 and one.
1:03:20
So not having him is massive not having John Allen in that metal
1:03:25
to rush for as one, not having cam curl and Benjamin saying
1:03:28
juice and we'll talk about this on a future episode.
1:03:31
Where did it go wrong? What happened for us to lose,
1:03:36
you know, three games in a row in Taiwan when we were seven and
1:03:39
five. Hmm.
1:03:41
And you know, that's something for our listeners to think.
1:03:43
But meltdown. I'm I've been trying to think of
1:03:48
a signature player this week that has to give that
1:03:51
performance for us to actually walk out of FedEx field with a
1:03:57
win. It's got to be Sam.
1:04:01
There's no one else that can do it and I hope that he does well.
1:04:07
But more importantly, I hope that he shows and proves to all
1:04:13
the other teams in the NFL. You passed me up and let me drop
1:04:17
the fifth in the actual round wise.
1:04:21
You passed me up that kind of Gilbert Arenas chip on his
1:04:24
shoulder for those that are, you know, Wizards fans here.
1:04:27
So he's got some things. To potentially prove to others
1:04:30
out there. And let's see if he's got the
1:04:33
Moxie that people like to say about heinicke.
1:04:36
Let's see if this kid can actually do it because we
1:04:38
typically preview the opponent, but this week isn't about the
1:04:42
Cowboys, we know what the Cowboys are, and we know what
1:04:45
the coming here to do, they've had 10 days off, so it's
1:04:49
somewhat unfair that they got 10 days off and they're coming here
1:04:53
in a FedEx to play us when we're all bruised and battered.
1:04:57
But hey, that's the NFL. But I am looking for the game.
1:05:03
Exactly. I am looking forward to being
1:05:05
out there with you and the rest of our burning go brothers and
1:05:08
sisters and rooting for Sonny Jurgensen to get his number
1:05:12
retired and to hang out and you know prediction wise I can't
1:05:18
pick up the win this week. There's no way I can
1:05:20
realistically do it. I think it's going to be a 11:32
1:05:25
game and I'm hoping that once against the Date the Cowboys
1:05:30
take their foot off the gas because they realized that.
1:05:33
Hey, you know, these guys aren't fighting back as much and that
1:05:37
they run the ball a ton, so we can just get that clock moving
1:05:40
and then heading to the officers.
1:05:41
And but I just can't realistically pick us to win
1:05:44
this week. Yeah, neither can I, and it
1:05:49
saddens me to say that, but This game will be one that everyone
1:05:56
is looking at their watch. And okay, let's go, let's go.
1:06:01
Come on, especially if it starts to rain, you were going to leave
1:06:05
in droves if we could not but kicks in as far as the rain
1:06:08
people Gonna Leave except for the Dallas.
1:06:10
Fans were gonna say that. 5,000 commanders fans that are going
1:06:13
to be there are going to leave the Cowboys fans.
1:06:17
It's like I'm already planning my outfit for Sunday.
1:06:20
I'm not wearing my tailgate said commanders Jersey.
1:06:22
I'm not My Terror McLaren. Am I chase young?
1:06:24
Because I'm concerned about the atmosphere that's going to be in
1:06:28
those stands. I'm concerned about those Cowboy
1:06:30
fans getting a little too rowdy and hey, I don't blame them.
1:06:34
You go on the road. And you know what, it's like to
1:06:36
win an enemy territory. I used to do the same thing and
1:06:39
I would go crazy when my team was kicking another team's ass
1:06:43
on the road and that's part of the fun of being there.
1:06:46
Now granted, this is an enemy territory for them because they
1:06:48
come here all the time and do this to us.
1:06:50
But, you know, I'm just not looking.
1:06:53
Forward to this game. I am not looking forward to the
1:06:56
season being over because that means that, you know, we've got
1:07:00
a whole offseason to have to worry about, but I am looking
1:07:02
forward to seeing what the future holds for the DMV mess
1:07:06
hall and for us down the road. Definitely.
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1:08:06
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