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Jonathan Taylor Out, Cooper Kupp Will Play Sunday, Chiefs vs. Titans Discussion · NFL Now

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Speaker 1: offense that is very underrated. But there's some significant news
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Speaker 1: to get to. It's our latest headlines, and there's no
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Speaker 1: one better to give us the details than Ian Rappaport,
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Speaker 1: who joins us right now. Ian, give me the low
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Speaker 1: down here on Jonathan Taylor I feel like we just
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Speaker 1: missed the news in the last hour. I was able
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Speaker 1: to get it in shortly after you were on. You
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Speaker 1: were waiting for it, you were installed, you were stretching.
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Speaker 1: But you have some details. Jonathan Taylor officially declared out
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Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis Colts, and I would say a frustrating situation,
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Speaker 1: no doubt, but maybe not as surprise. Has not practiced
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Speaker 1: at all this week. And the other part of it
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Speaker 1: is this is an ankle injury that's been bothering him
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Speaker 1: really for the last couple of weeks. From my understanding
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Speaker 1: talking to someone earlier in the week, this was something
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Speaker 1: that was going to linger that Jonathan Tylor would have
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Speaker 1: to deal with every week, not a lot of practice time,
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Speaker 1: a lot of manage, a lot of rehab and all
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Speaker 1: that if he was going to continue to play. Not
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Speaker 1: playing this week, it makes you wonder if the culture
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Speaker 1: pulling back and saying, you know what, let's just let
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Speaker 1: this thing heal and when you get back in the
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Speaker 1: field you will be your old self. That is certainly
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Speaker 1: a possibility, but we know he is not going to
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Speaker 1: play this week. Uh. Meanwhile, Chuba Hubbard for the Carolina Panthers,
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Speaker 1: another running backers got a ton of ton of carriages.
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Speaker 1: He also has been ruled out, which if you look
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Speaker 1: at their team, if you look at the way they
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Speaker 1: are constructed, maybe not in the worst case. Dante Foreman
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Speaker 1: has also been just a workhorse and really a revelation
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Speaker 1: kind of like he was last year. So when the
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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers love so, I would expect Yante Foreman to
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Speaker 1: get a ton of carries this week for a team
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Speaker 1: that really does like to run the ball in From
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Speaker 1: a Tennessee perspective, I think Titans fans would love to
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Speaker 1: see Derrick Henrin get another two yards on the game.
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Speaker 1: They'd also love to see their quarterback Ryan Tannehill healthy.
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Speaker 1: Where's his status living? No, we do not yet have
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Speaker 1: a firm designation on Ryan tannel Whether he will or
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Speaker 1: not play uh this week, wouldn't be surprised if you
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Speaker 1: listen is questionable. We will see what that is going forward.
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Speaker 1: What we do know is after missing practice yesterday, he
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Speaker 1: was spotted by local reporters at Aractice with a helmet
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Speaker 1: in uniform. He came in after the stretching period, but
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Speaker 1: at least he was out there, so whatever setback he
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Speaker 1: had with his ankle injury yesterday that prevented him for practicing.
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Speaker 1: At least it has improved enough to a point where
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Speaker 1: he can get on the field. We'll know more tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: perhaps to be participates in the walk through that will
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Speaker 1: be telling. But what we know is that Ryan dan
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Speaker 1: Hill was in fact at a portion of practice for
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Speaker 1: the Titans in Jets bills. Some news around Corey Davis
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Speaker 1: and his status. What is it Corey Davis dealing with
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Speaker 1: an m c L sprain. Also not going to play
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Speaker 1: this week. The hope is they get back after the
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Speaker 1: by so probably just missing two games, say relatively minor
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Speaker 1: m c L sprain, which means you're probably gonna see
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Speaker 1: some of Denzel Mims out there in the field for
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Speaker 1: the Jets. Coach Robert Salaz that his attitude has approved
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Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks. Hasn't played much at
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Speaker 1: all this season. When he has played, has really been
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Speaker 1: a bright spot, so perhaps you will see more. Also,
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Speaker 1: sounds like you're likely to see more of Cooper Cup
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Speaker 1: this coming week. Heard his ankle late late late in
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Speaker 1: that game last week, did practice the first day of
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Speaker 1: the week, was out there yesterday talking to reporters after
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Speaker 1: the game said basically, his ancho feels good. It sounds
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Speaker 1: like he's optimistic. So I would imagine you will see
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Speaker 1: Cooper cub out there for the Rams, and I know
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Speaker 1: if there's any other news that trickles in, you will
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Speaker 1: be back on with us live here on NFL Now
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Speaker 1: with the details. Always appreciative man, Thank you. All right,
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Speaker 1: as promised, we focus in on a little TNF Eagles
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Speaker 1: Texans last night. Jalen Hurts a little bit of a
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Speaker 1: home coming for him to screw upbout twenty five miles
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Speaker 1: from Houston, and he was dealing a J. Brown. Four catches,
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Speaker 1: fifty nine yards and a touchdown. You know, it's kind
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Speaker 1: of crazy because like that's not not a good game
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Speaker 1: for him, considering what he's been able to do so
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Speaker 1: far this season, is still pretty good enough, though. Dallas
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Speaker 1: Goddard h he catches a hundred yards and that touchdown.
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Speaker 1: How about this from the Philadelphia perspective eight for the
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Speaker 1: first time in franchise history. C J. Gardner Johnson five
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Speaker 1: interceptions in forty three career games with New Orleans. Remember
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Speaker 1: Philly picked him up in August. He's got five picks
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Speaker 1: already this season, and what does that get you on
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Speaker 1: one on one with our James Palmer c J and
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Speaker 1: week two, I remember going to your locker and talking
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Speaker 1: to you and you said, I feel like I've been
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Speaker 1: playing here for a long time. I fit in with
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Speaker 1: this secondary. Is this the best secondary in football right now?
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Speaker 1: For serve with chains, slave meet Epps, Monte uh Con
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Speaker 1: while it's coming in. We got a nice little group
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Speaker 1: back then we put together. When we come in and
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Speaker 1: play together, we work out. We work hard every week.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Just deep films. So that's
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Speaker 1: all it is, you know, I Q is how do
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Speaker 1: you go out there and play fast? To anybody? I
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Speaker 1: know you're playing a new position and you're joined right
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Speaker 1: before the start of the season and you're leading the
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Speaker 1: NFL and picks. How comfortable are you and what you're
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Speaker 1: doing in philled up? I just want to thank Howie.
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Speaker 1: I want to thank Colase d. Will you know the
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Speaker 1: coach uh Sara Janni. They believe in me making a
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Speaker 1: big old change and one for this in the one
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Speaker 1: went for playing up front now playing the back, buttrolling
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Speaker 1: the deep ends. So it's like, really get all big us.
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Speaker 1: The coach will be coach Wilson. You know he uh
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Speaker 1: been on me because I came here in in the
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Speaker 1: morning's early extra phil study watching games, so I get
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Speaker 1: my que a little bit higher. And it's just the
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Speaker 1: way it places. What they happened. Your quarterback said he
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Speaker 1: wanted this to be a business trip, but pree game.
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Speaker 1: We saw him going down there, pumping up the fans,
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Speaker 1: getting a chance to play back in Houston. Did you
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Speaker 1: get a sense now the game's over, this meant something
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Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, that definitely needs on to him. But
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Speaker 1: we're gonna righty behind him. So if he put this
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Speaker 1: in motion behind we will too. So I'm happy he
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Speaker 1: got he guy he got got to win as a quarterback,
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Speaker 1: you know, come home for his home fans and go
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Speaker 1: on first time in the Eagles history. You're eight, No,
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Speaker 1: just started season. How does that feel? Gotta love it, baby,
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Speaker 1: that's fly enjoy it. Thank you Eagles fans. That whole
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Speaker 1: city flying high right now. Considering how some of those
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Speaker 1: sports franchises are handling business, Jim Trotter not to mention
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Speaker 1: my good buddy Steve White here with us, all right.
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Speaker 1: The interceptions one thing they gotta pick in every seven
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Speaker 1: of the eight games. So far this season. What stands
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Speaker 1: out for from your perspective of what you saw last night. Well, look,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to kind of take a counter vision here
7:01
Speaker 1: because we're gonna be talking about Eagles a lot more
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Speaker 1: than we're talking about the Houston texas As. That was
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Speaker 1: their one prime time game, and you know, we know
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Speaker 1: the Texas. Their record is what it is and there
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Speaker 1: and they're still in part of a rebuild, maybe a
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Speaker 1: year away from being a year away. When you see
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Speaker 1: Damian Pierce and some of the flashes that you saw
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Speaker 1: at a quarterback, Davis Mills and some of the other players,
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Speaker 1: a foundation could possibly be here. Jim. Now, again, they've
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Speaker 1: got to start winning some ball games to put it
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Speaker 1: all together. You can have flashes here and there, but
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Speaker 1: you see what offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton is trying to do.
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Speaker 1: The identity he's trying to establish that offensive line was
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Speaker 1: getting a hat on some bodies for the Eagles up front.
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Speaker 1: So again, one of the rare time is gonna be
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Speaker 1: able to talk about the Texans because they did have
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Speaker 1: this primetime game. But it does seem like there is
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Speaker 1: a little glimmer of hope here, which is why I'm
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Speaker 1: just shining a little bit of love on the Red
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Speaker 1: helmets right here and Damian Pierce, and that grew Jimmy
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Speaker 1: want to love up Philly as if they needed more, Uh,
7:56
Speaker 1: I love up Philly. Here Steve took care of the Texans.
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Speaker 1: My takeaway from that game was really about two things.
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Speaker 1: One the ovation and play of Jalen Hurts and to
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Speaker 1: the GM Howie Rosmith should be seriously considered for Executive
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Speaker 1: of the Year. When you look at the players who
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Speaker 1: made key plays in that game, you talk about H. J. Brown,
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Speaker 1: That's a guy they traded for. You talk about C. J.
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Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson, that's a guy they traded for. You go
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Speaker 1: out before the deadline and you get Robert Quinn. You
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Speaker 1: use the draft to bring in a guy like Jordan
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Speaker 1: Davis who when he is on the field, that run
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Speaker 1: defense is significantly better by about two yards per carry.
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Speaker 1: And then let's talk about the move that he doesn't make,
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Speaker 1: and that's in the off season, not going out and
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Speaker 1: trying to find another quarterback to replace Jalen Hurts to
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Speaker 1: committing to Jalen Hurts. So when I put all that together,
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Speaker 1: what I see a team is I see a team
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Speaker 1: that has been uh structured tremendously in terms of finding
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Speaker 1: playmakers through trades, through free agency and the draft, and
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Speaker 1: a lot of that has to fall obviously on the
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Speaker 1: front office. Jim, I think it's a really good point,
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Speaker 1: especially the one about Jalen Hurts. There were some questions
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Speaker 1: about whether this guy was gonna Yeah, the long term
9:04
Speaker 1: salute san for this squad, one of those first round
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Speaker 1: picks on the quarterback coming up at twenty three and
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Speaker 1: guess what they get to had a couple of talented
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Speaker 1: players because it looks like they have their guy. Jim,
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Speaker 1: I know more from you coming up in just a bit,
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Speaker 1: but we actually have some news just coming into the
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Speaker 1: NFL Network news room. It is new right now, you know,
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Speaker 1: Heed and wrapping. What was telling us, Hey, the status
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Speaker 1: of Ryan Tannehill still up in the air. Well, it
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Speaker 1: turns out he was limited in practice, so he's actually
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Speaker 1: a game time decision against the Chiefs. Remember he missed
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Speaker 1: the Titans win against the Texans in Week eight dealing
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Speaker 1: with that ankle injuries, some illness. We saw Malik Willis
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Speaker 1: get his first start. Still the possibility we see Willis
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Speaker 1: out on the football field, but at least Ryan Tannehill
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Speaker 1: trending ever so slightly to playing against the Chiefs once again,
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Speaker 1: a game time decision against Kansas City. All right, still
9:51
Speaker 1: to come here on NFL now. Aaron Rodgers and Pack
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Speaker 1: head into the Steel City Sunday, hoping to avoid their
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Speaker 1: fifth straight loss. It hurt me right well, Detroit's dB
9:59
Speaker 1: exactly what Aaron Rodgers needs to get back on track.
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Speaker 1: We got an insider with an analytical look coming up
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Speaker 1: nedictate life. Still, let right back here on NFL now.
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Speaker 1: It is just coming into the NFL Network news for room,
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Speaker 1: and just a couple of moments ago, Sean McVeigh making
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Speaker 1: it official. Wide receiver Cooper Cup will indeed play against
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Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. He was dealing with that ankle injury tweaked
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Speaker 1: it against the forty Niners, but as Ian Rapp Report
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Speaker 1: also told us in this hour it was trending in
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Speaker 1: this direction, but sham McVeigh at this point making it
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Speaker 1: official for a little bit more on this matchup, as
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Speaker 1: well as some other big games from pf F. It's
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Speaker 1: Sam Monson who's with us. He is their lead NFL analyst.
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Speaker 1: Not to mention the co host of the p F
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Speaker 1: NFL podcast. All right, take me through this matchup, specifically
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Speaker 1: Sam from a quarterback perspective, because Matthew Stafford, Tom Brady,
10:53
Speaker 1: we've analyzed their games, We've we've pointed to some of
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Speaker 1: the deficiencies that we've seen in terms of scoring and
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Speaker 1: these offenses not getting going. What are you seeing? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: both guys obviously strong going, but I think one it's
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Speaker 1: much easier to draw a direct line as to the
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Speaker 1: main problem. It's it's Matthew Stafford and the Rams. I
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Speaker 1: think you could kind of predict this coming a little
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Speaker 1: bit before the season, but even I am flabbergasted by
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Speaker 1: how bad this offensive line has been. The last time
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Speaker 1: the Rams offensive line was anywhere near this bad was
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Speaker 1: and they went nine and seven and missed the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: They rank dead last in PFS pass blocking efficiency this year.
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Speaker 1: They've given up nineties seven total pressures. Matthew Stafford's great
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Speaker 1: at suffering. The production is suffering last week is averaged
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Speaker 1: at the target was less than five yards down field
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Speaker 1: because they're just desperately trying to protect that offensive line,
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Speaker 1: and it means that they can't run the Sean McVeigh offense.
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Speaker 1: They can't run the offense that usually makes them so
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Speaker 1: productive and so good on that side of the ball, Uh, Sam,
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Speaker 1: you know here, and I would imagine it's the same
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Speaker 1: for you at PFF. You know, before the week, you
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Speaker 1: get like a stack of research notes and I can't
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Speaker 1: help but notice that there's a lot of negative production
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Speaker 1: facts around Aaron Rodgers. But on the flip side, I
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Speaker 1: look at the rankings for Detroit and it's like dead last,
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Speaker 1: dead last, and all these major statistical categories on the
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Speaker 1: defensive side, Is this the breakout game that we've been
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Speaker 1: waiting for for Rogers in Green Bay? Yeah, it really
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Speaker 1: could be. Nothing's going well for that Green Bay offense
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Speaker 1: right now. And that's again it's like the Rams. There's
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Speaker 1: a very obvious reason why they don't ad receivers that
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Speaker 1: can separate, that can get open, that can make plays,
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Speaker 1: and so everything isn't working as well. But there's various
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Speaker 1: little bits of statistical telltale signs that say that the
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Speaker 1: exquisite m VP caliber Aaron Rodgers is still in there.
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Speaker 1: He's the number one graded quarterback in the NFL a
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Speaker 1: PFF in the red zone, he's the number one graded
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Speaker 1: quarterback throwing at the tight windows, which is all he
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Speaker 1: has to work with because those receivers don't get open.
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Speaker 1: But the Lions defense, it ranks thirty second in ep
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Speaker 1: E for play. They give up wide open spaces to receivers.
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Speaker 1: So I think this is a great spot for Rogers
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Speaker 1: to look a little bit more like the m v P.
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Speaker 1: Rogers of old. Doesn't necessarily mean it's all fixed of
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Speaker 1: going forward, Sam Monday Night, Lamar Jackson, we got him,
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Speaker 1: we got Andy Dalton, and the Saints Ian Rappaport just
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Speaker 1: gave us the news a little while ago about Bateman
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Speaker 1: not being healthy. He's gonna obviously miss the rest of
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Speaker 1: the season, so that's one major threat that Lamar doesn't
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Speaker 1: have in the mix. But statistically speaking, is there something
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Speaker 1: that stands out about this matchup? Well, the fact that
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Speaker 1: in PF grades, Andy Dalton actually has a higher PFF
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Speaker 1: grade right now that Lamar Jackson does, which doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: that Andy Dalton is a better quarterback. We know that
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Speaker 1: that isn't true. It's obviously not true, but it speaks
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Speaker 1: to the kind of consistency that he's had starting for
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Speaker 1: the Saints this year and why he's still in that job.
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Speaker 1: He's been ticking off these consistently pretty good performances hasn't
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Speaker 1: made a ton of mistakes. You know. You look at
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Speaker 1: the game where he had a bunch of turnovers. They
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Speaker 1: weren't really on him, they were unlucky plays. But he's
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Speaker 1: been able to deliver the ball where it needs to go.
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Speaker 1: Rookies like Chris lave been fantastic, and even without Michael Thomas,
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Speaker 1: that receiving corps is still pretty good with guys like
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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara and a Lava, you know, leading all rookies
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Speaker 1: in yards and catches and first downs and all these
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Speaker 1: kinds of things. So Andy Dalton gives that offense a
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Speaker 1: pretty high floor and that's why his great is as
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Speaker 1: good as it is. Yeah. You know, over the weekend,
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Speaker 1: I was working with Maurice Jones threw and m j
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Speaker 1: D said, look, if this team continues to get healthier,
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Speaker 1: they are a major threatn now in the division, but
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Speaker 1: also in the NFC. An interesting stat there would not
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Speaker 1: have guessed hit. And something tells me though, Sam Lamar
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Speaker 1: still going to get paid at some point on that deal. Sam,
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Speaker 1: great stuff. Man, Hey time, thanks for having me. Wait
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Speaker 1: are you ready to go? Dominad around Maholmes magic? How
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Speaker 1: about that? Ed Live by Patrick Mahomes ward on them.
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Speaker 1: Holmes is cutting him up today with his offense and
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Speaker 1: branch Derrick Henry side running difference between this league and
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Speaker 1: Arcade and got Derrick Henry it does. It is nice
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Speaker 1: when you actually have the Henry in the backfield. But boy,
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Speaker 1: we got some stars in this one. The health status
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Speaker 1: for Ryan Tannehill, as Ian Rapidport told us a little
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Speaker 1: bit earlier in the show, still up in the air,
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Speaker 1: but it looks like Malik Willis we'll be out there.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily pretty and his first NFL start against
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Speaker 1: Houston last week, a tall task to keep up pace
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Speaker 1: with the league's number one offense. And that Patrick Mahomes guy,
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Speaker 1: he's pretty good for a little bit more. Jeffrey Sndia
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Speaker 1: is with us. It's gonna be covering this matchup. Man,
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Speaker 1: it's good to see. I feel like I haven't talked
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Speaker 1: to you in a little bit. Here. Give me the
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Speaker 1: skinny because this is I don't know people realize this,
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Speaker 1: but three. That was the score last time around, and
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes team not victorious. So how do you use
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Speaker 1: that game a year ago to motivate you for the
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Speaker 1: lash up that we're going to see this week not
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Speaker 1: just seven three Mike, but they've lost five of the
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Speaker 1: last six games to the Tennessee Titans, excluding the an
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Speaker 1: FC championship game for a few years ago. And Patrick
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Speaker 1: Mahomes talked about this specific loss last year, saying that
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Speaker 1: he watched the film and it's really humbling to see
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Speaker 1: that kind of performance. Not only did the Chiefs play poorly,
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Speaker 1: but Titans really just played a great game against them,
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Speaker 1: took them apart in the first half, ran the ball down,
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Speaker 1: their throw, hit the play action passes, and my home said,
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Speaker 1: this is the kind of game you know coming in
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Speaker 1: that people may not respect the Titans on social media
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Speaker 1: or within traditional media. This is a very good team.
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Speaker 1: They've won five straight games, and they always give the
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Speaker 1: Chiefs a tough time. Okay, what about from a schematic standpoint,
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Speaker 1: this Chief's defense. How concerned are they right now in
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Speaker 1: terms of that play action pass even if it's Malik Willis,
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Speaker 1: that's going to be the guy as this team's signal color. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they're very much aware of the fact that even if
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Speaker 1: Ryan Daniel Camp play in this game and as Malik Willis,
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Speaker 1: that that play action is going to be a part
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Speaker 1: of this offense. You know last week they only threw
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Speaker 1: the ball ten times against the Texans and ran three
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Speaker 1: hundred plus yards. But defensive coordinator Stings Bagnolos said, the
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Speaker 1: tough part where you have Derrick Henry in your backfield
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Speaker 1: is trying to find a way to deal with him
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Speaker 1: and cover up the fact that you've got single coverage
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Speaker 1: somewhere in your defensive backfield. He's told his secondary, his linebackers,
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Speaker 1: you have to be ready because you have to own
17:22
Speaker 1: your role in this game. They will take shots when
17:24
Speaker 1: they have opportunities because they will run the football consistently
17:27
Speaker 1: and effectively, and they will look for those opportunities against
17:30
Speaker 1: this defense. Jeff dare I say, I'm jealous of you, man.
17:33
Speaker 1: You get to see Mahomes and magician and Derrick Henry
17:36
Speaker 1: the human tank enjoyed this matchup. Man. Hopefully we'll get
17:40
Speaker 1: a chance to talk next week. How about this Josh
17:42
Speaker 1: Allen four and oh against the Jets. Since dude has
17:46
Speaker 1: been an absolute monster, Zach will send a little bit
17:48
Speaker 1: on the struggle bus right now. Lois passer rating among
17:51
Speaker 1: thirty five quarterbacks with at least ten starts dating back
17:54
Speaker 1: to last season. Those three picks against New England a
17:56
Speaker 1: little frustrating. Here here's his head coach, Robert Salo. We
18:01
Speaker 1: always feel like the ultimate measuring stick is ourselves. Um.
18:04
Speaker 1: Every week you play in the NFL, there's so much
18:06
Speaker 1: parody that every game is a measuring stick and it's
18:09
Speaker 1: not necessarily a measuring stick against your opponent's a measuring
18:11
Speaker 1: stick against yourself. And what can you do better than
18:14
Speaker 1: you did the day before? If you will and um,
18:17
Speaker 1: so you have to have the mindset you can't make
18:19
Speaker 1: one team bigger than the other, otherwise you're going to
18:21
Speaker 1: create inconsistency in the way you play. And so for us,
18:25
Speaker 1: the challenges go out there and you're really measuring yourself
18:28
Speaker 1: against you and if you are better than you were
18:32
Speaker 1: the day before, then you feel like it's just gonna
18:34
Speaker 1: it'll be good enough. And so with regards to measuring stick,
18:37
Speaker 1: it's it's always about us. But Zach, you watched the
18:40
Speaker 1: progress he's made from year one, year two, and um
18:44
Speaker 1: and the weapons he has around them as well, and
18:46
Speaker 1: how he gets the ball to those guys and UM,
18:49
Speaker 1: so they're they've whether it's Sauce Gardner or Garrett in
18:53
Speaker 1: this case, or they've get a lot of young talent
18:56
Speaker 1: on that football team. We got. I get Coach mcdermo
18:59
Speaker 1: one of those nice little fancy ring like ring. If
19:01
Speaker 1: you back mark, Mark, you look great. And part of
19:04
Speaker 1: it is the lighting um and maybe a little bit
19:07
Speaker 1: of makeup as well. Mark. I want to circle back
19:09
Speaker 1: to the Jets three picks. Zach Wilson after that game said,
19:13
Speaker 1: hey man, I made some bone headed throws against New England.
19:15
Speaker 1: We get that. It's not going to get easier though
19:17
Speaker 1: against the Bills not at all. And coach McDermot is
19:21
Speaker 1: being nice there saying Zack Wilson has made progress. But
19:24
Speaker 1: when you watch Zack Wilson, he looks like he has
19:26
Speaker 1: not made progress. It looks like he's going back to
19:28
Speaker 1: the first starting Zach Wilson of his rookie year. And
19:32
Speaker 1: look what I evaluated Zack Wilson coming out of college.
19:34
Speaker 1: Do you love the little moxie he had, the playmaking
19:37
Speaker 1: that he had off schedule plays that he could do.
19:39
Speaker 1: But now when you watch him, it's like every play
19:42
Speaker 1: he tries to do that, and every play he tries
19:44
Speaker 1: to play hero ball and that just doesn't work in
19:46
Speaker 1: the NFL. And we saw the mistakes that he had
19:49
Speaker 1: last week with the three bad interceptions despite him throwing
19:52
Speaker 1: for a career high three five guards. And those are
19:55
Speaker 1: the problems with Zach Wilson. He gets too scattered, he
19:58
Speaker 1: doesn't see the field well, he gets jumpy in the pocket.
20:02
Speaker 1: So that's the the issue. Now he knows he has
20:04
Speaker 1: to prove on that and he talks about it every week.
20:08
Speaker 1: But this is what separates great quarterbacks from average quarterbacks
20:11
Speaker 1: the bad quarterbacks is that you can't do anything about it.
20:14
Speaker 1: Sometimes those bad quarterbacks, when the pressure hits them, they
20:17
Speaker 1: can't function. And hopefully that Wilson, for the deaths take
20:20
Speaker 1: will get out of that. But we talk about get
20:22
Speaker 1: right games, Steve. This is not the Bills defense and
20:25
Speaker 1: try to get right against for Zach Wilson. Yeah, look,
20:27
Speaker 1: I mean you talk about what separates the good quarterbacks
20:29
Speaker 1: and the great quarterbacks. The Bill's defensive front has made
20:32
Speaker 1: pretty much every quarterback not look good this season that
20:35
Speaker 1: they faced. And to me, they're the dictators of this game, right,
20:37
Speaker 1: They're gonna dictate how this game goes. If if Greg
20:40
Speaker 1: Russo and Von Miller just two great sack specialists on
20:43
Speaker 1: the edges and tandem with that rotation of just physically
20:47
Speaker 1: dominant tackles they have can slow down the run game,
20:50
Speaker 1: create pressure from all angles. It is gonna be the
20:53
Speaker 1: worst nightmare for Zack Wilson. Add on to the fact
20:56
Speaker 1: that the Bills get those leads and they can turn
20:58
Speaker 1: their guys loose. Right, those guys up front aren't playing
21:01
Speaker 1: reads for the run. They're getting upfield tackles for loss,
21:04
Speaker 1: sacks on quarterback. That is the great formula for what's
21:08
Speaker 1: worked for the Bills this year, and that's why Zach
21:10
Speaker 1: Wilson having a face this front it is tough because
21:13
Speaker 1: again that front four for Buffalo is as good as
21:15
Speaker 1: you get in the NFL, and they will dictate exactly
21:19
Speaker 1: the flow of this game. This just defense is really good.
21:22
Speaker 1: If they lose this game, though, I wonder what those
21:24
Speaker 1: conversations in the locker room are gonna be like, because
21:26
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's two losses in a row.
21:28
Speaker 1: If Zack doesn't play well again, I don't know what
21:30
Speaker 1: If the Jets starts stretching over two losses in a
21:33
Speaker 1: row after what they've been through, then that's progress. That's
21:36
Speaker 1: actolutely a good thing. But this is progress now. Sitting
21:39
Speaker 1: at five and three as a playoff. Is these losses
21:42
Speaker 1: start mounting up, maybe we're not talking about them as
21:45
Speaker 1: a postseason squad. Mark, no makeup aside, you're still good
21:48
Speaker 1: looking to do. I didn't mean to throw that out
21:50
Speaker 1: there that you need at the makeup. We'll hear from
21:52
Speaker 1: you in just a bit here, all right, Marcus Mariota
21:54
Speaker 1: the Falcon sitting pretty atop the NFC South and heard
21:57
Speaker 1: me right. It's a big matchup that we gotually covered.
22:01
Speaker 1: Jim to Mark break it all down while you're coming
22:03
Speaker 1: up next, Chargers and Falcons the focus justin Herbert three
22:12
Speaker 1: street games with a sub one D passer rating. Probably
22:15
Speaker 1: a good time to take on the league's worst past defense,
22:18
Speaker 1: the Falcons, who are in first place in the division
22:21
Speaker 1: giving up over three hundred yards in the air proceeds.
22:24
Speaker 1: Heard me right, first in the division, Jim trying to
22:27
Speaker 1: Mark Ross back with us right now, Jim, you'll be
22:29
Speaker 1: covering this particular matchup. Is there a guy in a
22:33
Speaker 1: Falcons uniform that's grabbing your attention? Yeah, and and he's
22:37
Speaker 1: not a household name here. It's wide receiver Jamir Bird. Now,
22:40
Speaker 1: why do I say he's not a household name? He's
22:42
Speaker 1: a seventh year veteran. He's with his fifth team, and
22:46
Speaker 1: in the first three weeks he was inactive. In the
22:48
Speaker 1: next three games he did not have a catch. But
22:50
Speaker 1: over the last two weeks he has really come on
22:53
Speaker 1: for the Falcons. He had a seven five yard touchdown
22:56
Speaker 1: reception against the Bengals. In last week he had sixty
22:59
Speaker 1: seven yards receiving, including a forty seven yard catch and
23:02
Speaker 1: run touchdown. So he's coming for them at a time
23:05
Speaker 1: obviously where they need playmaking. There's a lot of excitement
23:08
Speaker 1: about Cordarrel Patterson returning to practice this week, but what
23:12
Speaker 1: Bird gives them is a guy who can take the
23:14
Speaker 1: top off the defense and make plays. Now, he's never
23:17
Speaker 1: had more than two touchdown receptions in a season, so
23:19
Speaker 1: he's looking to extend that. And this is the first
23:22
Speaker 1: time he's ever had touchdowns and back to back games.
23:25
Speaker 1: So whatever he does from here from a career standpoint,
23:28
Speaker 1: would seem to be icing. But he is a guy
23:30
Speaker 1: that I will be keeping an eye on on Sunday, Jim,
23:32
Speaker 1: we showed those touchdowns while while you were speaking. If
23:35
Speaker 1: you get the high end angle, my lord man catching
23:38
Speaker 1: those angles and the speedster that's you'd had another gear
23:40
Speaker 1: on the football field. It was a ton of fun
23:42
Speaker 1: to watch over the weekend in a great game against Carolina.
23:46
Speaker 1: Mark from a Chargers perspective, this is kind of weird
23:49
Speaker 1: for me to say. There's some inconsistencies on the offensive side,
23:52
Speaker 1: which I didn't think we would have anticipated coming in.
23:54
Speaker 1: I think there's probably some reasons for it. But why
23:56
Speaker 1: are you not overly concerned? Not overly concerned, but you
24:00
Speaker 1: mentioned the inconsistencies and Justin Herbert at times looked like
24:03
Speaker 1: he's taking a step back. Well, he's been playing without
24:06
Speaker 1: all of his key playmakers for a lot of the season,
24:09
Speaker 1: stretches of the season, the fourth and fifth wide receivers
24:12
Speaker 1: with Keenan Allen injuries, that Mike Williams injuries where Shawn
24:15
Speaker 1: Slater went out earlier in the season as well. So, yeah,
24:19
Speaker 1: that's going to lead to a lot of inconsistencies with
24:21
Speaker 1: the offense and the lack of development for Justin Herbert,
24:24
Speaker 1: because yes, you like to have all your playmakers involved.
24:28
Speaker 1: We saw the difference with Joe Burrow last week with
24:30
Speaker 1: just having Jamaar Chase out for one game and how
24:33
Speaker 1: different their offense look now. Put that on Justin Herbert
24:36
Speaker 1: and all the pieces that he has out and really
24:38
Speaker 1: their offenses him relying on Austin Ekeler and Austin Ekeler
24:42
Speaker 1: could this weekend, if he catches over ten passes, become
24:45
Speaker 1: the first running back in NFL history to have three
24:47
Speaker 1: straight games with ten plus catches. So maybe not this game,
24:51
Speaker 1: but the Atlanta is a perfect opponent to get it
24:54
Speaker 1: against twenty nine and scoring with their defenses. But for
24:57
Speaker 1: the long haul of the season, if they get all
24:59
Speaker 1: these guys back, you should see much improved Chargers offense.
25:03
Speaker 1: Sorry to say that, Jim, I'm with you. I'm fine.
25:08
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people who said I thought they
25:10
Speaker 1: would win the division. So if they get them back
25:13
Speaker 1: and they play well, it makes me look good either way. Jim,
25:16
Speaker 1: you're right, and cover your basis, cover to all the
25:18
Speaker 1: all the different angles that are there. And Mark, by
25:20
Speaker 1: the way, Austin Ekeler fantasy owners smiling ear to hear.
25:23
Speaker 1: They're like, Yo, give me the rock, baby, here here
25:25
Speaker 1: we go. Let's get some points and win on Sundays. Hey, Mark, uh,
25:30
Speaker 1: we're here from you and just a little bit here Jim,
25:32
Speaker 1: you as well. Always great insight from both of you guys.
25:34
Speaker 1: I bring up that fantasy aspect of things, because I
25:36
Speaker 1: know you didn't draft him to throw the football in
25:38
Speaker 1: your fantasy leagues, will focus on Brown's wide receiver. Marie
25:41
Speaker 1: Cooper's production as a wide receiver on a three and
25:45
Speaker 1: five squad coming off six catches, I'll buck thirty one
25:48
Speaker 1: and that win against Cincinnati, Cooper actually in the top
25:50
Speaker 1: ten in receiving yards, which is definitely a good sign
25:54
Speaker 1: for fantasy owners. But if you need a little help
25:56
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26:03
Speaker 1: hit in Week nine of the Fantasy Football All Season,
26:05
Speaker 1: six teams on a by which means you're gonna be
26:07
Speaker 1: short some players, especially at wide receivers. So we've got
26:10
Speaker 1: four guys who might be able to plug into your
26:12
Speaker 1: lineups this week. Florio, who is a streaming option at
26:15
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Terris Marshall Jr. I think is a really
26:18
Speaker 1: strong option this week from the Panthers. He's played at
26:20
Speaker 1: least of the snaps in two straight games. He had
26:24
Speaker 1: nine targets last week, three of which came in the
26:26
Speaker 1: end zone. He's looking like their best red zone weapon
26:29
Speaker 1: in the passing game which helps for touchdowns, and he
26:31
Speaker 1: has a pretty good matchup against the bang up, banged
26:33
Speaker 1: up secondary and the Bengals. This week, I'm looking at
26:36
Speaker 1: Rashid Shahid. We saw the news about Michael Thomas being
26:39
Speaker 1: placed on the I R or placed on the I
26:41
Speaker 1: R either way, and when I'm looking to see who
26:44
Speaker 1: is going to be the subject of more passes, well,
26:46
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be that different because we haven't seen
26:48
Speaker 1: really Michael Thomas play. So this is a great option.
26:51
Speaker 1: Lots of upside. Of course, we have to wait till
26:53
Speaker 1: Monday for this, but such as life, we'll take of
26:55
Speaker 1: Monday Night guy as well, and I'll say Devin Duverney.
26:58
Speaker 1: Of course, with Rashad Bateman put on the I R
27:00
Speaker 1: as well this season, that means more production for Devin Duverney,
27:04
Speaker 1: and of course we've seen him have some quality games
27:06
Speaker 1: so far this season. Now, I caution you because this
27:09
Speaker 1: Ravens offense is going to be focused on going through
27:12
Speaker 1: the tight ends. Greg Roman's offenses always do that, but
27:16
Speaker 1: for this week, in a situation where you're probably trying
27:19
Speaker 1: to stream a wide receiver as so many teams on
27:21
Speaker 1: a buy Devin DuVernay would be one of my recommendations. Well,
27:24
Speaker 1: you're probably looking for wide receivers, so are the Chargers.
27:26
Speaker 1: Mike Williams is out and Alan trending the wrong direction.
27:29
Speaker 1: So I like Josh Palmer as an option for Justin Herbert,
27:33
Speaker 1: and that Charger passing offense is gonna get more opportunity.
27:36
Speaker 1: And he's going against the Atlanta Falcons, who have given
27:38
Speaker 1: up a ton of yards and a lot of touchdowns
27:40
Speaker 1: to wide receivers this season. Josh Palmer is a nice,
27:42
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27:52
Speaker 1: Packers lines. Let's get you set. Green Bay trying to
27:55
Speaker 1: figure things out. Three and five this season, scoring just
27:57
Speaker 1: eighteen points per game, that's good for six in the league.
28:01
Speaker 1: They get a Lions team and all kinds of trouble,
28:03
Speaker 1: one win, dead lasting defense, just trading one of its
28:05
Speaker 1: best offensive players and t J Atkinson. Here's the head coach,
28:08
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell on facing a pretty good quarterback in Aaron Rodgers. Well,
28:13
Speaker 1: for us, it's gonna be important like any other week,
28:16
Speaker 1: especially with a guy who knows how to work the
28:18
Speaker 1: pocket can break contain. We have to discipline in our
28:22
Speaker 1: rush pocket integrity, rush integrity. We have to push the pocket.
28:26
Speaker 1: You can't get greedy and start thinking inside that you're
28:29
Speaker 1: gonna get one man. Just do your job, push the
28:32
Speaker 1: pocket outside. We cannot rush by him. We have to
28:35
Speaker 1: close it in on and and uh, you know, make
28:38
Speaker 1: him will make a more difficult throw. Meanwhile, the Jackson Raiders,
28:43
Speaker 1: each with two wins apiece hard to figure out both
28:46
Speaker 1: of these teams. Raiders just shut out for the first
28:48
Speaker 1: time since Jags. They've lost five straight watching Trevor Lawrence
28:52
Speaker 1: just give the ball away nine times since week number four.
28:55
Speaker 1: His coach Doug Peterson facing the media today, Lone Adams,
29:02
Speaker 1: Darren Waller, Josh Shaking. It's sort of like a three
29:04
Speaker 1: hitden Monster. How much stress going to put our defense?
29:07
Speaker 1: All three of them are great players, Um, a lot
29:10
Speaker 1: of production in the league, and uh, you know, then
29:12
Speaker 1: throwing Derek Carr you know, Um, yeah, it can stress
29:15
Speaker 1: the defense, you know, because you've gotta think about, you know,
29:19
Speaker 1: resources on defense going where you're gonna put them, you know,
29:21
Speaker 1: and who are you gonna try to take away. So, um,
29:25
Speaker 1: it's a challenge defensively, and um, you know it's something
29:29
Speaker 1: that I know our guys are are ready for. Mac
29:33
Speaker 1: Jones me. While second worst TV tow interception ratio in
29:37
Speaker 1: the league. It's been a mixed bag for the Patriots,
29:39
Speaker 1: but Bill Belichick's defense gets a crack at Sam Ellinger,
29:42
Speaker 1: who's making his second career start after losing his debut
29:45
Speaker 1: against the Commander's last week. Frank Craik, We're excited about
29:52
Speaker 1: the opportunity, and we know Belichick's the best ever, especially
29:55
Speaker 1: going up against young quarterbacks. Um, you know it's got
29:58
Speaker 1: to take It's a team effort, right, So um, they
30:02
Speaker 1: play very well defensively, they have a good scheme, they're
30:04
Speaker 1: very Gay week oriented. They're gonna, you know, they're gonna
30:07
Speaker 1: have a certain way that they're going to do things,
30:10
Speaker 1: and um, you know, we we gotta be we we're
30:13
Speaker 1: going with the plan. But always against the Belichick team,
30:16
Speaker 1: you've got to be ready to adapt as you're going.
30:18
Speaker 1: Game Belichick pretty good. Alright, Time for some fast facts,
30:23
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Speaker 1: six career passing yards. In fact, Brady only needs a
30:34
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty four passing yards to become the first
30:36
Speaker 1: player in NFL history with one hundred thousand career passing yards.
30:41
Speaker 1: I don't need to be Cynthia Freeland to know that's
30:43
Speaker 1: highly likely going to happen, if not this weekend, very
30:47
Speaker 1: very soon. Meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers has not recorded three hundred
30:50
Speaker 1: yards passing in a single game this season, and in
30:54
Speaker 1: no game has he thrown for more than three touchdowns.
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Speaker 1: It's the first time in his career that he hasn't
30:58
Speaker 1: hit either mark in the first eight games. In fact,
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Speaker 1: passing this season. I know you're surprised. I'm not alone.
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight combined receiving yards each rank in
31:16
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