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#131 - Matt Ferrell - The Journey of a Comedian: Insights & Stories · The Chris and Mike Show

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  Get to your pants. We are not.
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  Live on YouTube and Twitch though, just so you know.
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  Yeah, yeah, we are. Live on YouTube and Twitch.
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  Why you do this right there, boys and girls.
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  Welcome to the Chris and Mike Show.
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  I'm Christy's Mike, and this is Matt Farrell.
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  He's a funny guy. We're going to have a fun show
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  today because because he's a funny guy.
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  Where you at, Matt? Where?
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  Where you where you coming from live?
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  I'm in. I'm in Oklahoma.
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  Oklahoma, dude, we had a guy last week on from from West
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  Virginia. So we're, we're, we're, we're
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  killing the, the Midwest, the East Coast.
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  Lately, man. Joseph was from Oklahoma, too.
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  Oh, that's right, Joseph. Yeah, Joseph.
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  Musician we had on here. He's from Oklahoma, somewhere in
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  there. Oh, the message, I don't
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  remember. I don't know who was sending me
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  the message yesterday or the emails.
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  I said it was going to be be ready at like 2:50.
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  I was like, right, cool. So I was ready two hours ago
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  'cause you didn't specify or. I don't know if you did or if I
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  and maybe. I just e-mail it's, yeah, it's
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  in the e-mail Pacific Standard Time.
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  That's all good, man. Yeah.
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  I was, I was like 250. I was ready to go and I already
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  went 255. Roll around, Yeah.
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  OK. Got you right.
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  Yeah. Where are you at?
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  Well, you. Know I'm in Arizona, Mike's in
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  Illinois. Oh, OK.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Central Illinois.
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  Yeah, I'm, I'm southwest Oklahoma.
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  Yeah. So you and I are in the same
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  time zone, Central Standard. Yeah, Hell yeah.
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  Well, thanks for coming on Matt. I love comedian, so I'm glad he
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  found a comedian. This is a first.
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  We haven't had a comedian on the podcast, so you're our first.
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  And that's awesome, man, because stand up comedy is next to
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  music. Stand up comedy is my favorite
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  other art form. I I just love it.
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  I I this is something I've heard from several other people.
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  It's every musician wishes they could do stand up comedy and
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  every stand up comic wishes they could play music.
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  I think there's a lot of truth in that statement, I really do.
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  Yeah, I've. Got a lot of fun, go ahead.
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  I was just, I've got a buddy who was he, he played in in bands
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  and stuff for years. And then he decided he wanted to
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  try stand up and he said, man, just being on stage without that
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  guitar between him and the audience, he felt like he was
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  naked. He goes.
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  It was, it's wild how just having that little bit of
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  something between you makes a big difference.
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  So and I've never had any musical talent at all.
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  So I've never had any experience with having something between me
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  and them. I've just been relying on
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  personality and Dick jokes. That's where I think Chris would
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  crush it because he doesn't play an instrument.
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  He was a front man, right? So he's used to going out there
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  with nothing, you know, it's just him against the world.
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  So I I think he would crush it as a stand.
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  Up I I thought about stand up coming over the years and I've
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  I've run some shit by Nick and and you know, she doesn't think
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  people get my sense of humor so. I think they would because I
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  laugh at all your jokes man, but maybe I just have a warped sense
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  of humor as well. Fuck, I don't know.
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  Well, not everybody has to get your sense of humor.
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  Just one room full of people at a time.
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  That's it. This is.
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  This is true. This is true.
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  You know, that's that's absolutely true, man.
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  How would you describe your style of comedy?
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  I'm, I'm very, very relatable. Everything I do is based on my
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  life. I tell stories about myself.
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  I've, you know, been married for a long time.
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  I've had, you know, been a dad. Now I'm a, I'm a grandpa.
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  I've been a grandpa for about a year and a half now.
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  Congratulations. That's awesome.
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  Thank. You when I was a dude.
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  It's so good. They're so much better than the
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  kids we made, right? Right, right, the.
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  Cool thing about a grandkids when when they shit themselves
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  you can hand them to somebody else.
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  You don't have to worry about that.
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  It's the coolest thing. You get all the benefits and
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  none of the work. That's right, man.
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  Now, now I'm going to do a little a little coaching on the
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  show. I want you to sit up more
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  because I don't want all that gap between your head.
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  You know what I'm talking about, Matt.
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  Like you're, you're you're. Yeah.
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  Yeah. There you go.
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  Because when we do. Post we don't.
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  Want you being this Damn, We don't want you being this tiny
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  guy. There you go.
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  That's much better. Yeah, half.
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  Half of your screen was Yeah, half of your screen was empty.
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  And that's that's that's a good thing.
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  Now, who's who's Cody? Cody was on your arm.
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  Is that kid your son or grandson?
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  Yeah, yeah. That's, that's one of my sons.
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  That's my other son. OK, OK.
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  That's I got Holden and Cody and I got my daughter's name on my
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  chest and I don't have anything from a grandson yet.
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  I went tiny man. That's my, that's my son's name.
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  That's my daughter's name. I didn't know you had those.
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  Yeah, yeah. And then on the back of my
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  wrist, I have my first grandson's name and birthday.
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  Well. That's awesome dude, I didn't
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  know you had any of those. Yeah, they went 30.
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  One episodes, is that all the tattoos you got?
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  It's just those, just those. Ones.
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  No, no, I got, I have about 14 total.
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  But you can't. You can't see them unless I'm
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  Naked. Well, we appreciate not looking
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  at those. Thank you.
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  You're welcome. Why some are true?
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  Story and I appreciate your sentiment as well, Matt.
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  Yeah. Yeah, some of you, if I had my
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  shirt off, you could see some of them.
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  But I purposely, when I was getting tattooed as a youth, I
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  was like, I don't want to have sleep now.
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  If the band would have taken off, I probably would have had
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  sleeve art going on by now. I get toyed with the idea if if
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  we ever went anywhere, I would tattoo my head.
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  So, you know, I'm glad that never happened because I don't
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  think I'd like it if I had my head tattooed now, no.
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  Yeah. But but.
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  When I was, yeah, when I was young, I was.
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  I never wanted anything below my wrists or above my collarbone.
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  So that way, if I got to go to Grandma's house and visit, I can
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  put a long sleeve shirt on and she don't have to look at none
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  of it. But then Grandma passed away, so
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  this shit's about to go crazy. I'm just kidding.
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  I'm just kidding. This is as far as it's going.
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  I'm not getting anything above my neck.
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  Yeah, I love you, Grandma. You see some people now that
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  their grandparents and their their skins all weathered and
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  shit and they have the tattoos that all faded and just kind of
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  like blotchy shit. That's.
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  What we're all headed for. And I and I want to, I want to,
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  I want to tell my, I want to tell my, my, my, my kids because
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  they both are in the tattoos. Like this is what the future
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  lies if you keep getting shit that everybody can see, Like my
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  son, my full leg, Go ahead, go ahead.
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  No, you're, I wasn't trying to cut you off, no.
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  You're good. Definitely tired.
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  I have AI, have a bit about AI used to do it.
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  I don't do it anymore. It's a old bit, but I did it
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  about getting tattoos and you know, thinking about the future
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  was the most important thing. So like, don't get whatever
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  cartoon cartoon character is popular right now, because if
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  you get SpongeBob SquarePants on your leg when you turn 60, it's
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  just going to look like a cancer spot.
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  You know, if you got the Tasman, if you got the Tasmanian devil,
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  the Tasmanian devil when you turn 60 is going to look like a
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  poop emoji. So, so, so true story on this
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  shoulder. Yeah, true story on this on this
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  arm. I have a Tasmanian devil.
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  Then I and I did it because a buddy of mine, like we were, no,
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  we were like, hey, I'll get a tat.
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  If you get a tat. Then he shows up a tattoo part
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  and he's like, dude, where are you at?
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  I'm like, oh shit, seriously. So I go up there and I didn't
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  know what to get. And so I got Taz.
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  Now it's covered. I covered it with an eagle so
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  you can't see Taz at all, you just see the the big eagle.
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  But true story. He's not friends with, you're
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  not friends with that guy anymore.
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  No 'cause when he pulled his bandage off he had no tattoo.
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  No. Oh, what a prick.
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  And then and. Then, but well, but then he had.
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  Then he sat down to get one. He's got that jabber jaw shark.
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  Remember Jabber Jaw? Oh, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  He's. Got a shark with a list?
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  Yeah, I covered mine now I did a promo, you know.
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  I did a promo for some shows earlier in the year.
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  My a buddy of mine is a tattoo artist.
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  That's how I'd get a bunch of my stuff by Andrew Patterson, who's
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  he's also a comedian. But we went in and I and I he
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  scuffed up my head real good with paper towels to make it red
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  and irritated. And then he put a stencil on it
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  and, and tattooed the word comedy across my forehead and it
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  looked very real. And then we posted the video of
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  it and we put it out there. And then I used that picture on
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  all of my Flyers and everything. So people thought that I'd
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  really gone and gotten comedy tattooed on my forehead.
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  And I used it for a bunch of promo and people would show up
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  to shows just to see if the tattoo was real.
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  So I'm not that dumb, but it was a good idea.
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  I. Love it.
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  I have been having Internet problems all day, so 5.
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  Whatever sells tickets. Oh, I.
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  I just thought my story wasn't that funny.
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  No, I, I, I legit, we've been having, I was watching Chris.
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  Freeze up, I was listening to your story at the same time.
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  All day long, like what the hell?
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  Like it's, it's like dragging ass.
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  I don't. Know they don't have Internet
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  out there in Arizona yet. Man, so I don't know what's
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  going on with the satellites. This is weird, man.
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  Sometimes it's smooth butter and sometimes it's all choppy.
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  So yeah. Yeah, I don't.
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  Yeah. But don't worry, you're every
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  time you freeze it's with a very normal looking face.
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  Every time you freeze, your mouth's half open.
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  It's so fucking frustrating man. Technology's great when it
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  works, and when it doesn't, it just you want to scream.
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  Yeah, I don't know what the problem.
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  Is we get frustrated when a call doesn't go go through or when
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  something like this happens. But yeah, then we got to stop
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  and think every once in a while. It's still pretty goddamn
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  amazing that we can have a conversation and look at each
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  other. Dude, we had a live podcast from
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  a band who was in the studio in Cape Town, South Africa, and we
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  were talking like you and I are talking right now.
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  It was. Wow.
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  Yeah, that's why that was in Australia.
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  Yeah, Australia. And he had like maybe A5
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  millisecond delay that was. Really.
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  Yeah, yeah. See now.
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  That's actually frozen. For me, yeah.
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  See, now I'm not frozen, but you guys are frozen.
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  Yeah, you're frozen. It's.
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  I'm at 33%, man. I don't know what the Hell's
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  going on today, but it's been like this all day.
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  No matter which one I was on, it's just been dragging ass.
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  I don't know what the deal is. Yeah.
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  That's great. Everybody looks good to me.
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  I mean, I mean you guys, you guys look as good as you can
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  look. I guess I don't.
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  I mean. Yeah, yeah, it's definitely his
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  if he's only at 33%. Yep, Yep.
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  And that's frozen. Yeah, so you just caught up to
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  us. Yeah, yeah, Mike, just you just
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  adjusted yourself in your chair, Mike.
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  OK, now you're in real time because I just did that, Yeah.
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  We're in real time now. Welcome back to the show.
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  We're back. Welcome.
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  Back This is by This is the Rock'n'roll Comedy Hour.
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  Matt Farrell. This message brought to you by
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  the Real Estate guy called 602-1618 Eight.
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  Yep, when you're. Ready to sell a.
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  Bike. Let's let's talk comedy, man.
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  Who's your top five favorite comedians?
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  Great question. Thank you.
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  Top five, I'll give you of all time, of all time, I'm going to
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  go. Richard Pryor.
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  Yes, George Carlin. Yes.
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  OK, Don, Don Rickles. No shit.
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  Robin Williams. Good.
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  Robin Williams, Yeah. No, that's four.
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  That's my top. Four and then Matt.
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  Farrell I took my yeah, well, I'd, I'd, I hope one of these
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  days I can be with those guys. But I'd say #5 is pretty
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  unpopular. The greatest comedy stand up
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  special of all time is Bill Cosby as himself.
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  That's the greatest one hour special ever put out.
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  I like. I mean that was.
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  I can't tell you. Yeah, I like Norm.
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  Norm MacDonald had a bit, he goes.
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  I'm just not a real big fan of his later work.
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  No. No.
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  I, I I I. The funniest bit from himself
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  that I still remember to this day is the God damn Jesus
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  Christ. Yes, yeah.
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  He couldn't figure out what his name was.
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  Right. Yeah, yeah.
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  I was 10 years old before. I knew what my name was.
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  God damn it, Get over Jesus Christ, don't do that.
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  Yeah, yeah. I don't remember the exact thing
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  that by far was because, number one, it's the only time he's
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  sworn the bit. And Bill Cosby is such a very
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  wholesome individual. And it isn't crazy that he chose
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  to use blasphemy as his one way to swear.
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  Right, well that. Was a precursor to the dark.
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  Side, obviously. So let me ask you this.
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  Little did we know. Here's the way I look at it,
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  Matt. You got to separate the person
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  from their acts, right? So as a comedian, he's one of
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  the greatest stand up comedians of all time.
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  You, you can't condone what he did later like Norm MacDonald
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  said. For sure.
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  I'm the same way with Ted Nugent.
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  I don't agree with his politics but I love him as a guitar
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  player, Right? Yeah, right, Yeah, I mean, and
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  there's there's obviously, I mean, there's lots of people
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  like that in the world. And the the argument is we've
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  all we've all done things that we're not proud of.
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  I mean, hopefully most of us haven't raped, but but but yeah,
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  I, I agree with you. You can still appreciate
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  someone's art and not approve of the way they did other things in
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  their life. So for, I mean, and that's the
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  reason that I was put in. I mean, he's still, he's still
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  one of the greatest to ever do it.
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  So it's, I mean, you can't take that away.
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  I agree. But yeah, those those are my top
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  five now that of course, I mean, besides Bill Cosby, all the rest
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  of them are dead. But I think the greatest guys
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  going right now are guys like Shane Gillis, and Saint Gillis
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  is an absolute killer. Agreed.
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  Bill Burr is always. Yeah, yeah, it's awesome.
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  Bill Burr is always going to be one of my favorites.
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  Bert Kreischer's. Bert Kreischer's probably the
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  hardest working comedian in comedy.
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  Tom Segura, you know, amazing. Tom Segura's.
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  Great. Yeah.
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  So I was just having this conversation with some guys the
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  other day is, you know the, the reason, Rich, everybody looks up
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  to Richard Pryor. He changed the game.
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  He's the one who brought big theaters into play.
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  He's the one that made big theaters a thing.
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  But now, and there used to be 5 or 6 guys that could do that.
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  Now there's dozens of comics that are playing arenas.
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  They they're not even doing theaters.
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  They're doing like full on arenas and they're selling those
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  out, you know, two or three times in a weekend.
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  Yeah, yeah. Kevin Hart, Bert Kreischer.
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  I mean, I don't know why, but Joe Rogan, I I really like Joe
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  Rogan. I'm just not that big of a fan
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  of his stand up, you know. But yeah, the the comedy is
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  comedy is rock'n'roll now. Absolutely, yeah.
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  Yeah, so. I was surprised you didn't have
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  Eddie Murphy in there. Eddie Murphy is great.
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  He's just not one of my top five.
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  OK, that's. I think he.
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  Quit the game too early. Like he did the game but he
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  quit. But he quit.
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  If you know anything about his story, he quit the game because
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  the label was trying then he was too talented and and the label
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  that he was with, he put out an album, like an R beat album, and
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  it was like off the hook and and everybody like like censored him
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  because you're like, what? You can't do that.
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  You can't be a multi faceted artist.
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  You just have to be in this box. So I I think that controlling
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  shit was a big reason why he stepped away and just kind of
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  like, you know, big middle finger at the world, like, you
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  know, but but he was he he could have had a music career.
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  He could have had a much more dominating movie career.
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  Obviously Saturday Night Live changed his life and he just,
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  and this is all hearsay. It's whatever we read and and
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  watched over the years. But that was for all we know, he
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  made. A fuck ton of money and just
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  decided to retire too. Yeah, well, he's.
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  Still, he's well, yeah. I mean, that's.
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  Definitely part of it's not heavy.
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  Yeah, he's just not heavily involved, like.
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  Eddie Murphy, which and back in the day, every, every comedian's
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  goal was either to get a sitcom or get into the movies.
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  That was, you did comedy, you did stand up so that you can
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  either get a sitcom or be in the movies.
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  And Eddie Murphy did that. Yeah.
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  And and Eddie Murphy did that and he just kind of backed off a
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  stand up. And I mean, I've a great
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  interview with him as Jerry Seinfeld does that.
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  Comedians in Cars getting coffee on Netflix and the the one the
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  episode that he has Eddie Murphy on there.
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  I mean, Eddie's just pretty blunt about it.
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  He's like, yeah, I just wasn't writing anymore.
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  This is just. Like what?
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  I didn't. I didn't need to work that hard.
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  So yeah, I like the fight. Yeah, I mean Eddie.
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  Murphy, Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy.
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  Delirious is definitely one of the one of the greats, you know?
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  Oh, no question, RAW. Yeah.
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  Yeah, Eddie Murphy RAW was definitely the purple suit, and
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  then he had the red suit. Yeah, I haven't watched too much
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  Charlie. Murphy.
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  Eddie Murphy's brother. Really I.
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  Think he's way funnier than Eddie.
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  Oh yeah. That's a Chris Rock's brother is
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  a fantastic comedian, too. That's what I've.
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  Heard. I've never heard him, but I've
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  heard that he's a great comedian.
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  And he does. He does stuff here lately.
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  He'll get hecklers at his show and he'll go, hey, listen, I'm
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  not my brother, I'll hit you back.
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  Yeah, sorry. Was pretty, you know, pretty,
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  pretty funny outtake on it. So but I like everybody.
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  I think everybody knew as soon as Will Smith slapped Chris
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  Rock, that was going to change things for comedy too, because
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  it did it made people think that they could stand up and and do
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  shit, which I've never experienced anything like that.
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  I've never had anybody charge the stage.
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  I've had drunks walk up to the stage to shake my hand in the
• 18:36
  middle of a set and like, hey man, that's good.
• 18:40
  Can we hang out after, you know, whatever.
• 18:42
  I've had other comedians where I've had to break up fights
• 18:45
  because they have pissed people off to the point where someone's
• 18:47
  charged the stage. But I've never, I've never had
• 18:51
  anything. But like I said, what's your
• 18:53
  most? Awkward Heckler moment.
• 18:55
  Oh, that good? Question, man.
• 18:58
  Most awkward Heckler I had a a woman one time was drunk during
• 19:05
  my set and I don't I don't remember what joke I was telling
• 19:10
  because it had no, it had nothing to do with it, but she
• 19:12
  confessed to to cheating on her husband in the middle of my
• 19:15
  joke. No, Yeah, and it's you don't
• 19:20
  like like what the fuck am I supposed to say now?
• 19:23
  Congratulations. Like I don't like.
• 19:26
  I didn't know what to say. That's that one was that one was
• 19:31
  pretty damn awkward. But most of most of my weird
• 19:33
  heckles come from drunks who just say random shit anyway.
• 19:37
  Sure. But yeah, I think that was the
• 19:39
  most awkward is because everybody in the bar or it
• 19:42
  wasn't even a bar, it was AI think it was like we're doing a
• 19:45
  brewery show or something and everybody in there, she was
• 19:49
  crystal clear. Everybody could hear what she
• 19:51
  said, perfectly clear. So it was like record scratch,
• 19:55
  silence. Everybody turns around and looks
• 19:57
  at her and she couldn't figure out what she had done wrong.
• 20:00
  So it was like, well shit, where do we go from here now?
• 20:04
  Was was your husband there? No.
• 20:09
  No, but her. She was there with her
• 20:11
  sister-in-law. She was there with her husband's
• 20:13
  sister. Oh wow, I don't think they rode.
• 20:16
  Home together. Oh, that's crazy.
• 20:19
  Dude. Yeah, it was girls night out and
• 20:22
  she confessed. One too many tequila sunrises.
• 20:28
  Yeah, yeah. But I've had, I've had other,
• 20:34
  I've had others. Like I said, I've had a friend
• 20:37
  of mine, Wayne Morris, who's a comedian from Texas, very funny
• 20:41
  guy. He was watching and there was a
• 20:46
  table full of people that had been talking through all the
• 20:48
  other comics sets, and he was kind of keeping an eye on them.
• 20:51
  And he's like, all right, when I go up there, I'm going to shut
• 20:53
  this down. And I was like, all right, well,
• 20:57
  you know, there's good ways to do it and bad ways to do it.
• 20:59
  I said, we'll handle it, right. And he goes, OK, and he walked
• 21:02
  on stage and he did not handle it right.
• 21:07
  Wound up being funny. But it's, you know, language and
• 21:12
  and the way we use words and what words mean.
• 21:15
  When we were growing up, we called each other names that you
• 21:17
  can't even say in public anymore, you know, because they
• 21:20
  they offend people. So basically what?
• 21:22
  And that's what I don't know how sensitive we are here on Twitch
• 21:26
  and YouTube. I didn't want to say anything
• 21:27
  that was OK. Good.
• 21:29
  Because what he said is, hey, if you faggots will leave, I'll pay
• 21:32
  your bar tab. And that's a big guy.
• 21:38
  Yeah. So a big guy at the table turned
• 21:39
  around and said, what'd you say? So he repeated it.
• 21:42
  And really, like, he was just saying like, hey, you assholes
• 21:45
  leave, I'll pay your bar tab, but you're ruining the show.
• 21:48
  But he used the F word and it's a big guy, got up and charged
• 21:52
  the stage and I had to break that fight up.
• 21:54
  But come to find out, the reason they were all so chatty at that
• 21:57
  table is his nephew. They had come there to this
• 22:01
  place to sit down and visit so that his nephew could come out.
• 22:06
  Oh well, like nobody. Else yeah, nobody else knew that
• 22:10
  like Wayne, and certainly didn't know that that had happened, but
• 22:14
  you know. That's the trigger of the guy
• 22:15
  coming to the stage and picking a fight because you dropped the
• 22:18
  other. Absolutely, yeah.
• 22:19
  Wait a minute. That's, you know, yeah.
• 22:23
  And after it was all said and done and everybody was outside
• 22:26
  on the sidewalk, they're like, oh, OK, yeah, that was just bad
• 22:29
  timing. We get it now.
• 22:30
  But the fight had already happened at that point.
• 22:32
  So. So he's like, yeah, I guess
• 22:37
  we'll just sit on the sidewalk and drink beer together now.
• 22:39
  Guys high fiving the gay guy for, hey, congratulations on
• 22:43
  coming out, man, with more power to you.
• 22:44
  We don't give a shit, right? And we didn't.
• 22:48
  Mean anything derogatory by our statement.
• 22:51
  Yeah, yeah. When?
• 22:52
  I when, I when. I when when I grew up and Mike
• 22:54
  you can relate to this. We grew up you you had we played
• 22:57
  a game out in the front yard called with smear the queer, the
• 22:59
  queer right. You got absolutely all the
• 23:02
  neighborhood kids, one kids got the football and you're supposed
• 23:05
  to get from one end of the yard to the other.
• 23:06
  Now let. Me ask you a question?
• 23:08
  Yeah. OK.
• 23:09
  Did you know what that meant at the time?
• 23:12
  No. Nor did I.
• 23:14
  Nor did I fucking care. Neither just.
• 23:16
  Wanted to play. The game with my friends, right?
• 23:18
  I was happy to be included. Yeah, I.
• 23:21
  Think, I think back then like I thought, I thought that I mean,
• 23:23
  queer was just a funny thing to call somebody, but we didn't
• 23:26
  know what it meant. It was just a.
• 23:28
  Funny thing to say that we had no idea what it meant.
• 23:31
  There was no label to it. It was.
• 23:32
  It was and I. Remember I remember my mom
• 23:35
  saying I wish y'all would call this game something else but she
• 23:38
  still never explained why. She just said, oh, I wish you
• 23:41
  guys wouldn't say that word, you know, come up with something.
• 23:45
  I am 43. OK, so we.
• 23:48
  Got no not. That's not true.
• 23:50
  That's not true. I just lied.
• 23:51
  I'm 44. I'm not real.
• 23:55
  Good with numbers, Chris. Got you by 1012.
• 23:58
  Yeah. Oh yeah.
• 23:59
  I'm 55. I'm 55, OK?
• 24:02
  Yeah, there you go, 50. 255, yeah.
• 24:05
  So yeah, we said all and you guys are way.
• 24:07
  Better with technology than me, but well.
• 24:13
  We. Figured it out together.
• 24:14
  I'm going to say right for sure. Yeah, we have our moments.
• 24:18
  We learned this. The.
• 24:19
  Start of this show that would have frustrated this 130
• 24:23
  episodes ago, we would've just shut the damn thing off so all
• 24:25
  right Matt, we'll call you back again, you know, but he gives
• 24:28
  me. Way too much credit.
• 24:29
  All I had was the idea and I figured out how to do this
• 24:32
  Riverside thing and the rest of it has been a lot of hours of
• 24:36
  both of us putting in the time. He does all the booking and just
• 24:40
  trial. And error.
• 24:42
  Yeah, I know you found us quite a while ago.
• 24:44
  You've seen the progression and what we've done from when you
• 24:46
  started watching us to now. And I mean, that's all him doing
• 24:49
  his work and me doing mine. So kudos to both of us.
• 24:53
  Eclipse 200,000 views on YouTube.
• 24:57
  All organic, by the way. We're not paying for views, not
• 25:01
  paying for subscribers. We're very proud of that, yes.
• 25:05
  So many people will go out. There and pay for the views and
• 25:07
  pay for the subscribers and then their numbers are skewed and
• 25:09
  then their views are skewed it's like no no, no, no, no we're
• 25:12
  straight up we're going to baby step this shit because then it's
• 25:15
  all real and it's all organic that's why when.
• 25:17
  I brag about having 2100 subscribers and some moron will
• 25:21
  say that ain't shit, man. It's like, yeah, it is to me
• 25:24
  because every one of those people signed on because they
• 25:27
  like to show it. Chris.
• 25:29
  None of us, we didn't pay money to go out and get bots and shit.
• 25:32
  You know, those are all people that wanted to listen to what
• 25:34
  we're doing and that's awesome. Thanks for watching and signing
• 25:37
  on. And every week we get more
• 25:40
  YouTube followers and we appreciate it and.
• 25:43
  Growing, growing on social media is it's grueling.
• 25:49
  It is a it's a long drawn out grind.
• 25:53
  That's like sometimes you'll see something and it works and
• 25:56
  you're like, why? I don't understand why that
• 25:57
  worked. Can I, can I replicate and do
• 26:00
  that again and it doesn't work? No, you cannot.
• 26:03
  Yeah. And my biggest, my biggest
• 26:05
  example of that is on TikTok. I had a friend who talked me
• 26:07
  into doing TikTok. I wasn't even going to mess with
• 26:09
  it because I don't think it'd be perfect for the type of stuff
• 26:12
  you do. So I started doing it and I was
• 26:14
  putting thought and effort into making these videos and trying
• 26:17
  to be funny and all this stuff. And it was that I would go up by
• 26:20
  four or five viewers at a time. And then my son used to work at
• 26:25
  a Dr. thru smoke shop and I, I drove through.
• 26:29
  Not a word is said in the whole video.
• 26:31
  I I pull up, I've got the camera rolling as soon as he opens the
• 26:34
  drive through window. I flipped him off and then I
• 26:37
  drove away and it got 1.8 million views and I'm like,
• 26:42
  what? All.
• 26:44
  This. All this other shit I've been
• 26:45
  putting effort into get I'm getting like 40 views.
• 26:49
  I flipped my son off, no word said 1.8 million and and then it
• 26:53
  and then it blew up pretty quick and I got to 10,000 followers on
• 26:56
  TikTok pretty fast from that. So that was wild, yeah.
• 27:01
  Yeah, hi, Michael. It's OK, man.
• 27:02
  Michael joined us. He's late.
• 27:03
  So I did. I'm not.
• 27:05
  I'm not big on TikTok either. So I did.
• 27:07
  I thought about shit, right. And then we need to.
• 27:09
  We put a chain out there for. Ourselves and we had an event a
• 27:14
  friend of mine runs a race company like like 5 KS, 10 KS,
• 27:17
  right. So it was around Christmas time.
• 27:22
  I was there to portray you one of the Christmas.
• 27:26
  I don't want to drop the bomb because you don't know if
• 27:28
  there's five year olds watching us, but I was I was there to
• 27:30
  portray one of the the the icons for Christmas.
• 27:33
  Follow me. So once that was done and I was
• 27:36
  just kind of hanging out this these two, two or three guys on
• 27:40
  bicycles like a cyclist, right? They come, they come barreling
• 27:44
  through the crowd. I'm not barreling like, oh,
• 27:45
  knocking people over, but we have this crowd of like a
• 27:49
  hundred 150 people lining up for this race and these cyclists
• 27:52
  just decided it's it's their space that they can just drive
• 27:55
  through. So they basically just drive
• 27:57
  through the crowd of people being total assholes about it.
• 28:00
  So I had I was filming it just I was filming something else and
• 28:04
  this this happened. So I just turned my camera that
• 28:06
  way and then just watch the guy go through the crowd and the
• 28:09
  reaction. Shit, I threw that up on TikTok
• 28:11
  for the hell of it. And like for me it was it was
• 28:14
  crazy because I was like you, you know, hundred 150 maybe if
• 28:17
  that, and this thing got like 260,000 views and comments go
• 28:21
  war. And I'm like for what?
• 28:24
  It was just this asshole going through this crowd and now then
• 28:28
  off with a bunch of kids and stuff like talking smack because
• 28:31
  there's a family run event. It's called run your race
• 28:33
  Arizona. They put on events every month,
• 28:35
  you know, fun run mile, fun runs, 5 case, 10 case, things
• 28:38
  like that. But that thing just is for I
• 28:41
  didn't go million, but it it went viral enough for my world
• 28:45
  that I was like, well, that's crazy because, you know, it just
• 28:48
  was a human element that I think people buy into.
• 28:52
  So maybe the fliing off, you know, it's just it's a human
• 28:56
  thing. It's it's you know, it's like,
• 28:58
  you know what shit, seeing a seeing a taking a picture of a
• 29:01
  bear in the woods and then realizing that you're going to
• 29:03
  get destroyed by that bear. And they find your your phone
• 29:05
  later and they have a picture of you taking a picture of the bear
• 29:08
  and that bear killed you. It's the human interest fact,
• 29:10
  right? I just had this conversation.
• 29:13
  At work today, the top podcast other than NPR are all
• 29:19
  unfiltered, uncensored podcasts. So what does that tell you?
• 29:22
  Well, and that. And see, that's the thing.
• 29:24
  So when I was on radio, when I was on I Heart I, you can't.
• 29:27
  They give you a list of words like you can't.
• 29:30
  Nobody listens to that. Shit, anymore I know.
• 29:32
  But that's what I'm saying. When I was on it, like I had a
• 29:35
  list, I couldn't say these things and that's why.
• 29:37
  We all gave up on that man once. Matt just said it a little while
• 29:41
  ago. All this shit works good enough,
• 29:43
  right? Especially for once you put the
• 29:44
  episode out there. Now the Internet works.
• 29:46
  Florida State Video audio. People are going to consume what
• 29:51
  they want to consume and be proven over and over again that
• 29:55
  they want real content, right? They want to hear real people.
• 29:59
  That's what made Rogue the biggest podcast on the planet.
• 30:01
  He had real people on there and they talked like normal people.
• 30:05
  They swore when it was necessary and unnecessary.
• 30:11
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unnecessary, just like we're
• 30:13
  doing. They just had fun, right?
• 30:14
  We're just having a conversation here.
• 30:16
  We're not interviewing Matt as a comedian.
• 30:17
  We're interviewing. No, we're talking to Matt as a
• 30:20
  person. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:21
  Just having the conversation. I, I do think that that's, and,
• 30:25
  and, and I mean the, the, the conversation just being real
• 30:29
  and, and just being conversation style interview where you were
• 30:32
  just talking back and forth. I think that people will find
• 30:35
  interest in that. It's the same as reality TV.
• 30:37
  They just want to see what's going on in other people's
• 30:39
  lives. And then the other part of it is
• 30:42
  as long as you're, as long as your content is consistent, like
• 30:46
  if you guys are doing a once a week podcast, you can't skip a
• 30:49
  week. If you skip a week, you, you
• 30:51
  lost viewers, you know, so that's kind of a wild thing too.
• 30:55
  So consistency and just being quality content, but and, and,
• 30:59
  and the quality is the part that baffles all of us because we
• 31:03
  think, oh, I've got to put hard work and effort into it to make
• 31:06
  it quality. No, that's not the quality that
• 31:09
  they're looking for. The quality that they're looking
• 31:11
  for is up to them. You know, the, the type of
• 31:14
  comedy I do. Yeah, right.
• 31:16
  The content, the quality and the content of, of comedy that I do
• 31:19
  is not for everybody. Just like what you know the
• 31:24
  Andrew Dice Clay did wasn't it wasn't for everybody.
• 31:28
  But the group that finds you and does like it, you got them and
• 31:33
  they'll be there. The.
• 31:35
  The example I always use in the music world, Matt, is Slayer.
• 31:39
  Slayer had the most hardcore fans ever, but it was the most
• 31:44
  intense music, right? So you're going to find that
• 31:48
  select group of people that like what you do.
• 31:52
  And the cool thing about that is they're going to be Rabbit,
• 31:54
  Pantera, Metallica, Slayer, Those fans, will they eat, sleep
• 32:00
  and breathe those bands? Same thing with that.
• 32:05
  If you're a Bill Burr fan, you're a Bill Burr fan, you're
• 32:08
  going to go consume whatever he puts out there.
• 32:10
  Bert Kreischer, right? All the guys you named, I watch
• 32:12
  all their stuff too because they put out quality content.
• 32:16
  I just saw Chris made a post on a podcast page.
• 32:20
  Somebody asked a question about how do I get more viewers or
• 32:23
  subscribers and he said 3 words, Content, content, content,
• 32:27
  right. And then consistency.
• 32:29
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and that's all we've done
• 32:32
  since March. We learned in March by by just
• 32:35
  me deciding, oh, we should try this.
• 32:37
  And in March we started, I started putting up three reels
• 32:40
  every day. So every day there's three
• 32:42
  things that drop. If it's a show day, there's
• 32:43
  only, there's two shorts in the show.
• 32:46
  So Sunday and Wednesday it's two shorts in a show.
• 32:49
  But every other day of the week there's three, there's three
• 32:51
  reels or three shorts that drop between, you know, 30 and 55
• 32:54
  seconds. But it's constant.
• 32:56
  And then Mike does the Instagram stuff and it's constant.
• 32:58
  It's consistent. We'll do the same shit all the
• 33:00
  time with different with different things because like
• 33:04
  we're 3 or 4 weeks, we're 3 or 4 shows ahead.
• 33:07
  So your shorts that once we get everything done, I'll e-mail you
• 33:09
  your shorts. You'll have them in a couple
• 33:11
  weeks. You can use them for whatever
• 33:12
  you want, but then I stagger them out different times of the
• 33:15
  day, different days of the week. So you're not just all Matt
• 33:18
  Farrell seven days in a row. It's you may be a 6:00 AM, you
• 33:22
  may be a noon, you may be a 4:00 PM.
• 33:25
  It'll randomly go throughout, you know, wherever I'm at that
• 33:28
  time right now. I think I'm in September.
• 33:31
  Some weird. Yeah.
• 33:33
  You. Know, but but that's the thing,
• 33:35
  it's just it's constant content, it's constant engagement.
• 33:37
  There's constantly something going on every single day on
• 33:41
  this. And it's, it's cool because I've
• 33:42
  compared it to my my business page, which I've had since 2003
• 33:46
  on YouTube. And the contrast is, is
• 33:48
  unbelievable because my, my business one, I'm just over half
• 33:52
  million views, but from from March to September, we're over
• 33:57
  what 200,000 views we went from like. 38,000 and at the end of
• 34:03
  February to we just passed 201,000 today and that's just
• 34:08
  shows. You.
• 34:10
  What you said. Earlier, Matt, consistency and
• 34:12
  content, he's been consistent every day since March.
• 34:16
  We're in September and our subscribers are the ones that
• 34:20
  really impressed me. We went from like 63 subscribers
• 34:25
  in May to 2089 sitting here today, so.
• 34:31
  And 22 countries now. Yeah, which is cool.
• 34:33
  We should be 23 that is. Cool acoustic element.
• 34:37
  They haven't watched the show. Yeah, South.
• 34:39
  Africa, Yeah, Once that show drops in South Africa, we'll get
• 34:42
  pick up South Africa as another country.
• 34:44
  That'll be 20. Three, yeah, Which is?
• 34:46
  Cool, that will be cool that. Is cool.
• 34:48
  That is cool. Yeah.
• 34:49
  That's I don't know how much as far as like growing your social
• 34:52
  media and stuff effects what you guys do or what you're trying to
• 34:57
  do. But like for comedians, it's it
• 35:01
  used to be like I would have to go and do a show someplace and
• 35:05
  then if I wanted to get into another club, the owner of this
• 35:09
  club would kind of have to vouch for me in order to be like, hey,
• 35:12
  he's funny. He can do this much time, He's
• 35:14
  easy to work with. Whatever.
• 35:16
  Now music works they. Don't even ask.
• 35:18
  To see it like we used to, or we used to have to send out EP K's.
• 35:22
  You know, we'd send out a sample of our work with our bio and all
• 35:25
  that stuff, and then they would review it, they'd watch our
• 35:27
  video, and then I'd get back to us.
• 35:29
  Now they don't even ask for that.
• 35:30
  As soon as you reach out to the club and go, you know, the show
• 35:33
  interest that you want to be booked there, they'll say like,
• 35:35
  what's your Instagram handle? I need to see how many followers
• 35:37
  you have. That's all it's about.
• 35:39
  Everything's about followers. How many, how many followers you
• 35:42
  got on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, What it's all about
• 35:48
  with like high? Profile guest Chris just
• 35:51
  encountered that within the last week or two where, you know,
• 35:53
  people are like, oh, you don't have enough this or that or
• 35:56
  whatever. So I don't want to be on your
• 35:57
  show. And we're just like, whatever,
• 35:58
  cool, man. Yeah.
• 36:00
  You know, come. Yeah.
• 36:02
  And I don't, I, what I don't get is because here's what I'm
• 36:08
  banking on. Like if I if I'm doing something
• 36:10
  is like we're going to have this interview, we're going to have
• 36:14
  fun, we're going to visit, we're going to cut up whatever five
• 36:17
  years from now y'all blow up and this goes huge.
• 36:21
  Everybody's going to go back and watch all your old stuff too,
• 36:24
  right? Or vice versa.
• 36:25
  Like if you blow up. Yeah, they're they're going to
• 36:28
  want to find everything that Matt Farrell did from before you
• 36:32
  were famous until because I do, you know, like I went back and
• 36:35
  looked for Burrs old stuff and Kreischer's old stuff.
• 36:38
  And, you know, in the music world, you want every bootleg
• 36:41
  you can find or whatever band you like.
• 36:43
  You know, that's just human nature is I want to consume
• 36:47
  everything because I like these people.
• 36:48
  I agree with what you just said. So for some people it maybe I
• 36:52
  wish I would of, but I don't even really think like that.
• 36:55
  It's like if you want to come back when you think we're big
• 36:57
  enough, that's great. Matt thought we were big enough
• 36:59
  right now and we're happy to have you here.
• 37:01
  So I'm. Going to be.
• 37:02
  Honest with you, I didn't even look to see how many followers
• 37:04
  y'all had. I really didn't like I saw one
• 37:07
  of y'all had made a post, it said, hey, we're looking for,
• 37:09
  we're looking for new people to come on our podcast who would be
• 37:11
  interested. I was like, fuck yeah, I'll do
• 37:13
  it. Like, I mean, what's it?
• 37:14
  First of all, I'm getting to meet.
• 37:15
  I'm getting to meet two new guys.
• 37:17
  We get to visit, we get to hang out, crack some jokes.
• 37:20
  What else was I going to be doing right now exactly?
• 37:23
  Yeah. Why not?
• 37:24
  It doesn't make sense to me, most people.
• 37:27
  Have your attitude, man. We have not had a problem
• 37:29
  finding guests. I am not crying about that.
• 37:31
  I never will. Because if we don't have a
• 37:33
  guest, Chris and I, we've been in a band together for years.
• 37:36
  We've known each other for 30 years.
• 37:38
  We could talk for from now until eternity.
• 37:40
  You know it. But it's really cool.
• 37:42
  That all of the sudden people saw the worth of being on here
• 37:48
  because number one, you can promote yourself all you want.
• 37:51
  We're not going to stop you from saying, hey, I'm playing here,
• 37:54
  I'm doing this, I'm doing that. That's what we're here for.
• 37:56
  Because if we didn't want that, we would just do the show
• 37:59
  ourselves, right? And we don't.
• 38:01
  Have a problem with you going off screen and doing cocaine
• 38:03
  like you just did so you know it's all?
• 38:08
  Yeah, you know those days are over.
• 38:10
  Fuck, there's a blow, dude. Fuck, there's a blow.
• 38:12
  Come on. He's got he's got the jaw.
• 38:14
  He's got the yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a smoke
• 38:18
  in. Oklahoma, it's like water.
• 38:20
  You got to have Copenhagen. Yeah.
• 38:23
  Copenhagen, Yeah, there you. Go, I said I need to.
• 38:26
  I wish these. I wish these.
• 38:28
  Pricks would sponsor me. As much as I'm spending on that
• 38:31
  shit, I might as well start doing cocaine, it's cheaper.
• 38:33
  What? What?
• 38:34
  What does that cost now because when I stopped it was 4 bucks a
• 38:37
  can. Even even at like the Indian
• 38:41
  smoke shops, it's almost $10 a can now.
• 38:44
  Oh my. God shit.
• 38:47
  Yeah, not that's, that's not as expensive as they impact
• 38:50
  Marlboros, though. Hell, cigarettes are, which
• 38:54
  I've, I mean, I've never been a smoker, so I didn't ever deal
• 38:56
  with that. Yeah, that's.
• 38:59
  Insane. Yeah, and it's made.
• 39:00
  In America, so there's no tariffs on it.
• 39:01
  I don't know why it should cost so much.
• 39:05
  Because they can't. Taxes, yeah.
• 39:08
  Yeah, because they can't. Because they can't.
• 39:11
  Yeah, that's a oh, that's that's another thing.
• 39:14
  That's another thing I don't do. OK, you don't.
• 39:18
  You don't swallow. You don't swallow.
• 39:21
  That's the personal question, Chris.
• 39:24
  I don't think it. I don't think it's.
• 39:25
  We don't know each other that well yet, man.
• 39:28
  Kind of coming at me with some hardball questions right out of
• 39:30
  the gate, man, We got that's the shit.
• 39:34
  No, dinner hadn't even been discussed.
• 39:35
  No, I ain't swallowing without dinner with the hell shit man.
• 39:41
  And I'm. And I'm always laughing to the
• 39:43
  party. He he didn't even consider my
• 39:44
  feelings at all. Yeah, yeah, I have.
• 40:01
  If this was. If this was an interview, that
• 40:03
  shit never would have come out of my mouth, man, because that's
• 40:05
  just for all organic fucking conversation, man.
• 40:08
  That's fucking great. Yeah.
• 40:11
  That's the best. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:15
  Because I, I chewed for years, man.
• 40:16
  Years and years and years. I stopped.
• 40:17
  I ran on, I ran out of chew on 4th of July weekend and I was at
• 40:21
  home kicking back in the recliner and I grabbed my can.
• 40:24
  It was empty. I'm like, I don't want to go to
• 40:26
  the store. There you go.
• 40:29
  Haven't chewed since. Yeah.
• 40:31
  I'm hoping that that happens with me.
• 40:34
  I quit drinking well before I stopped chewing, Mike.
• 40:37
  I I still, I still, I still chew.
• 40:39
  I couldn't when I stopped drinking.
• 40:41
  I have over 20 years sober, Matt.
• 40:42
  When I stopped drinking, there was no way in hell I was
• 40:44
  stopping chewing. Congratulations.
• 40:46
  At the same time. That thank you.
• 40:47
  That would have been insane. But I did stop.
• 40:50
  I don't remember how long. How long after I stopped
• 40:54
  drinking. That I don't because I don't
• 40:55
  remember. It was such a it was such a
• 40:57
  random thing like Nikki was in Oregon with Jake visiting at a
• 41:02
  friend and legit I, I showed houses all weekend and came
• 41:05
  home. It was like 4:00 in the
• 41:07
  afternoon. I, I and I just, I sat down, was
• 41:10
  chilling out watching, I think I was watching baseball and I
• 41:12
  grabbed, I grabbed my can. I'm like, oh fuck, I'm out of
• 41:14
  chew. I looked at my watch.
• 41:16
  I'm like, I don't want to go to the store.
• 41:18
  And legit, I just, I, I just stopped right then and there
• 41:22
  because I didn't want to go to the store.
• 41:25
  Hell yeah. And and that's I've always, I've
• 41:28
  always heard and I've always told people is like, you're not
• 41:32
  going to quit until you're ready.
• 41:33
  No, when you're ready, you can do it, you know, but you can't
• 41:37
  quit for nobody. It's the same with drinking too.
• 41:38
  You know, you can't do it for nobody else.
• 41:41
  If if it's if it's not for you, it's not going to work.
• 41:44
  No, agreed. And I I that's one thing.
• 41:47
  That we I tried out for because. We're both.
• 41:50
  Recovered addicts. So there's nobody that can tell
• 41:54
  you that you're going to change, that's ever going to affect
• 41:57
  anybody? Nope.
• 41:58
  Yeah, no. It has to be for you.
• 42:01
  I dried out for for several years.
• 42:03
  I've kind of gotten pretty bad off.
• 42:05
  And so I which my problem was never, I could not drink.
• 42:09
  I just couldn't stop if I started.
• 42:12
  So it was easy to not drink. Yeah.
• 42:15
  So I, I, I quit drinking for a little over three years and I
• 42:19
  didn't drink anything at all. And then we were, we were on a
• 42:23
  road trip somewhere. It's just my wife and I and we'd
• 42:25
  gone to a restaurant right next door to our hotel and she's a
• 42:29
  hey, like, no, no, Jay, if you'd like to have a drink with your
• 42:33
  meal, We got we're walking to our room.
• 42:34
  It's no big deal. And I was like, all right, I
• 42:37
  think. And I kind of ease back into it,
• 42:38
  but I'm still very cautious. Like I, I might have a beer or
• 42:44
  two here and there, but I don't drink whiskey or any kind of
• 42:47
  liquor or nothing at all anymore.
• 42:49
  I'm a, I'm a couple beers here and there kind of guy now.
• 42:53
  That's kind of where I'm. At Matt I I was lucky that
• 42:56
  alcohol that my body chemistry just doesn't work with it.
• 43:01
  So unfortunately it did with drugs.
• 43:05
  You. Know everybody's.
• 43:07
  Body chemistry is different, so. For whatever reason, that worked
• 43:11
  perfect I could. I could handle the whiskey, but
• 43:14
  I couldn't handle the cocaine. But I still tried it, you know?
• 43:18
  Yeah. Yeah, that's a I've cocaine was
• 43:24
  always something that I'll say of all the of all of that, that
• 43:27
  I ever did. I never paid for it.
• 43:29
  I was always just around and other people would have it and
• 43:33
  it wasn't, it wasn't very far into that before I was, I just
• 43:36
  stopped and I was like, I could see how this becomes a problem.
• 43:39
  I think I'm going to start turning it down and and I did
• 43:42
  and I was at but, but I think that's the only thing I've ever
• 43:45
  shown that kind of self restraint with.
• 43:48
  Certainly there's been other things in other things in life
• 43:51
  that have gotten a hold of me that I had to work really hard
• 43:53
  to get rid of. But that one, I was just at a
• 43:56
  party one time. I was at, man, this is, I see
• 43:59
  how this becomes a problem because this is fun.
• 44:01
  I think I'm going to stop doing this.
• 44:03
  I'm just going to start turning it down.
• 44:05
  Here's the way that I was able to do that.
• 44:08
  Don't ever do cocaine because you'll love it.
• 44:10
  I say the same speech every time.
• 44:13
  Yeah, you'll love it. And now by my kids, my kids
• 44:18
  growing up, of course, all my kids are grown.
• 44:19
  My youngest is 18 now. And my, my, my plea to all of
• 44:23
  them has always been no pills, no powder, no pills, no powder,
• 44:27
  you know, go smoke some weed. Go smoke some weed.
• 44:29
  Do it. Be safe.
• 44:31
  You want to You want to drink? Drink with.
• 44:33
  Friends drinking, drinking, controlled situations.
• 44:36
  Don't drive. Do it the way you're supposed to
• 44:38
  do it. But no pills, no powder.
• 44:40
  And now it's terrifying but you have no idea what's in shit.
• 44:44
  They cut it with everything. Well now the guys fentanyl is
• 44:47
  just out of control. Now they have.
• 44:50
  A new fentanyl which is like 100 times or 1000 times more
• 44:54
  powerful than the fentanyl that was before.
• 44:56
  I just saw it on a documentary I watched two nights ago.
• 45:00
  Which I don't understand. Crazy the drug dealers mindset
• 45:03
  of that, right? You're, you're a drug dealer.
• 45:05
  Your entire world is wrapped around people buying your
• 45:07
  product, getting high and coming back to you, right?
• 45:11
  So you need to return. Business.
• 45:12
  Let's look at. Cigarettes, right, right.
• 45:14
  Cigarettes. Brilliant, right?
• 45:16
  Cigarettes did exactly what it's the epitome of of creating an
• 45:20
  addict and making sure they kept coming back for more for years,
• 45:25
  decades, decades, right? Because they just kept adding a
• 45:28
  little bit more, just a little bit more.
• 45:30
  Oh, here's a different flavor. Here's a different filter.
• 45:32
  Kills 5. 100,000 people a year right?
• 45:37
  Tell me again how much they care about your safety exactly.
• 45:41
  So. Drug.
• 45:43
  Dealers need to take a page from the tobacco companies.
• 45:46
  Well, I think today's. Drug.
• 45:48
  Dealers are smart. As you talk, excuse me, I think
• 45:51
  today's drug dealers are stupid. As you talk to a guy like Pablo
• 45:55
  Escobar apparently knew what he was doing because he understood
• 45:58
  getting people hooked and them coming back, right?
• 46:01
  Exactly. If.
• 46:03
  That was the. Size.
• 46:04
  Of a pin inside some cocaine of fentanyl will kill your user
• 46:11
  then how much more cocaine can he buy from you that's my.
• 46:14
  Point I don't I don't understand the mindset of the drug dealer
• 46:20
  in today's world like like that's not a good business
• 46:22
  model. No, you know that's a.
• 46:25
  Have you ever seen it? You ever seen the movie American
• 46:27
  Gangster? Yes.
• 46:29
  Yes. With.
• 46:30
  Denzel Washington about Frank Lucas Perfect business model.
• 46:35
  He, he, he gave them the most, the most pure product at the
• 46:38
  best price and they were hooked and they never went away.
• 46:41
  They his business would never go away.
• 46:44
  Well, here's an analogy. Perfect business model.
• 46:46
  Here's an. Analogy if Matt Farrell went to
• 46:49
  his next gig and he shot everybody in the crowd, which
• 46:54
  he's not going to have any return business, right?
• 46:56
  They they might have laughed for that night, but they're not
• 46:58
  coming back well. And that man, I think your.
• 47:01
  Analogy. Your analogy just went to
• 47:03
  fucking level 10. There.
• 47:04
  I was just holy shit. Well, I feel much more
• 47:09
  comfortable if we use this analogy about somebody else.
• 47:13
  Don't. Don't claim Matt Farrell's out
• 47:15
  here shooting people shit, man. How about, how about, how about,
• 47:18
  how about this concept? Matt Farrell goes on stage in
• 47:20
  front of 500 people and tells them all they're a bunch of
• 47:22
  fucking assholes and walks off. They're never going to come back
• 47:25
  to see you again. You're going to go actually,
• 47:27
  maybe not though, because you'll go that'll go viral on TikTok
• 47:31
  because it'll be like Matt Farrell comedian just tells the
• 47:34
  entire audience to fuck off and leaves the stage.
• 47:37
  So then there's no no publicity, bad publicity, right?
• 47:40
  So there's no good ones are going to.
• 47:42
  Come right and. They're going to find out what's
• 47:44
  wrong with Matt Farrell. Then Matt Farrell goes off this
• 47:46
  little tangent over here and these these and then people love
• 47:49
  a train wreck. So they're going to watch this
• 47:50
  is this is gold Matt, you should write this down.
• 47:52
  So you're going to go on a train wreck event and then it's pretty
• 47:55
  simple I'm. Following without writing it.
• 47:58
  And then you're going to bring it, you're going to bring
• 47:59
  yourself back up and you're going to be redemption.
• 48:02
  So you're going to have this wave of of chaos and emotional
• 48:06
  writing and people are going to embrace you and love you because
• 48:09
  you came back from the pits of hell from telling the people to
• 48:12
  fuck off. Then you're going to have
• 48:13
  Netflix episodes and you can let Mike and I open for you.
• 48:16
  We'll do an acoustic set, man, I feel.
• 48:19
  I feel like this is a long game. You're talking about playing a
• 48:21
  long game here. We got to build.
• 48:25
  We got to build up. We got to build up, then we got
• 48:27
  to crash, then we got to disappear for a year and then
• 48:31
  make a redemption, right? Yeah.
• 48:33
  I mean, I like the I like, I like the idea.
• 48:35
  I just don't know if I have the patience like a.
• 48:38
  Phoenix right from there. Fair enough.
• 48:40
  Fair enough. I could see.
• 48:41
  I could see that. How long you been doing comedy?
• 48:45
  A little over 10 years, a little over 10 years ago, or maybe a
• 48:50
  little over 11 years now. I guess is the first time I ever
• 48:53
  did comedy. But then my kids, my kids were
• 48:57
  still in school and they were very active in sports and
• 49:00
  activities. So I just kind of did it
• 49:02
  whenever I could. So I wasn't really pursuing it.
• 49:05
  And then the last, the last three years, this is all I do.
• 49:11
  So the whole time I don't have those.
• 49:13
  Yeah, yeah, you wake up. You wake up funny, you go to bed
• 49:16
  funny. Now do you try which means
• 49:19
  which? Means, which means that we're
• 49:21
  broke, right? Well, so, so when, when, when,
• 49:27
  when, when, when I write songs, right, when I, cuz I do the
• 49:30
  lyrics and come up with the melodies and stuff, I give it to
• 49:32
  Mike, he does the music. So when I write a song, it can
• 49:34
  just be a happenstance. Like I'd be sitting here looking
• 49:37
  at a cup. Oh shit.
• 49:37
  And then all of a sudden the muse pops in my head and, and
• 49:40
  here's a song I write in two seconds, you know, 2 minutes,
• 49:42
  whatever exactly. Is it the same?
• 49:44
  Is it the same kind of vibe with you as a comedian with bits?
• 49:46
  You just see something that's funny and you write it down and
• 49:48
  all of a sudden you have this bit. 100% I've got notebooks.
• 49:53
  Notebooks just full of stuff. If if I was smart I would start
• 49:57
  using my phone to actually keep notes on, but I don't.
• 50:01
  There's some notes in there but I still never think about it.
• 50:04
  So I still walk around with a big yellow pad and an ink pen
• 50:06
  and it's always like I at least got one out in the car.
• 50:10
  I take a backpack with me almost everywhere I go because if I
• 50:12
  think of something, I have to write it down.
• 50:14
  And a lot of times I'll just write down the idea and then two
• 50:17
  or three days later I'll come back and I'll look at it and
• 50:19
  I'll go, the fuck was I talking about?
• 50:21
  I mean, that doesn't even sound funny.
• 50:22
  So I just got to draw a line through it.
• 50:24
  So I got to, I got to be a little bit more detailed.
• 50:26
  Otherwise I'll forget what I thought was funny about it.
• 50:28
  But yeah, I wind up with a matter of fact where I live is
• 50:34
  it's an hour and a half one way to the closest open mic.
• 50:38
  I said I don't live, I don't live close to, I don't live
• 50:41
  close to any of the big cities. There's not really any place for
• 50:43
  me to go practice. So if I work on new stuff plus
• 50:46
  we go to open mics at like the clubs, they give you 4 minutes,
• 50:50
  which in 4 minutes is really hard to.
• 50:52
  Yeah, I mean, if you a really generous club might give you 7
• 50:57
  minutes, but yeah, it's that's hard to work out new material in
• 51:00
  that time. So what I did is 8 miles from my
• 51:03
  house. Wow.
• 51:06
  Yeah. So 8 miles from my house,
• 51:08
  there's a there's a little Bar and Grill that's about 8 miles
• 51:11
  from where I live. And the guy had reached out to
• 51:13
  me goes, hey, would you be interested in a comedy show
• 51:15
  here? I said, I'll tell you what I'll
• 51:16
  do. I'll come and do a show.
• 51:17
  They're free every month. And really, I just created my
• 51:21
  own open mic. So I invite other comics that I
• 51:24
  know to come. And it's just a place for me to
• 51:27
  work out new material. And last month I went in there
• 51:31
  with a a notebook just full of all brand new stuff.
• 51:36
  And I did probably 50 minutes on stage of all material that I've
• 51:41
  never even said out loud before, just working stuff out.
• 51:44
  So but yeah, that is it. Yeah, it's the exact same way.
• 51:49
  The what? I saw something on your page.
• 51:51
  The Okie Okie, no the. Yeah, the Okie stateroom.
• 51:55
  That's a brand new venue that just opened.
• 51:59
  A young lady named Kenzie bought that place and and she renovated
• 52:03
  it. It's a old, you know, like you
• 52:05
  drive through small towns, they've got the old theaters.
• 52:08
  Sure. She it's one of it's one of
• 52:10
  those and she bought it and completely renovated it and that
• 52:14
  it's mostly for music. We're the we're the first and
• 52:17
  only comedy show that she'd had so far.
• 52:20
  We packed that place out and it was a hell of us.
• 52:23
  It was such a good time, such a good time.
• 52:25
  That's awesome, man. Yeah.
• 52:28
  So where's the? Where's the bar you go to once a
• 52:30
  month that's 8 miles from your house?
• 52:32
  It's in Apache, OK, which is a town of about 3000.
• 52:37
  Like it's a very small town. I don't even.
• 52:40
  Hell, it might not even be that big, but so after a while it
• 52:44
  gets to where everybody there knows you.
• 52:46
  So if you tell a joke and they don't like it, they'll tell you.
• 52:49
  They'll just be honest with you. It's like telling jokes to your
• 52:52
  friends and you know, or, or a black room, an all black room,
• 52:57
  which I tell people this all the time.
• 52:58
  They're like, Hey, what's something every comedian should
• 53:00
  do? Every comedian should go perform
• 53:02
  in an all black room because black people do not sugar coat
• 53:07
  shit you. Know what I'm?
• 53:09
  Saying like they'll like if you're in a black room.
• 53:12
  If you tell a joke and they don't like it, they don't wait
• 53:14
  until after the show to tell you.
• 53:16
  They tell you while you're on stage, they'll tell you to leave
• 53:19
  if they don't like it, right? Yeah.
• 53:21
  It's so it's and it's the, it's the best.
• 53:24
  It's the best thing in the world.
• 53:25
  So now, like as musicians, y'all can sit in a studio or a
• 53:30
  practice room or something and y'all can practice the song over
• 53:33
  and over and over and over until you feel like you got it down.
• 53:36
  And then you go and put it in front of an audience.
• 53:38
  Whereas with comedy, you write it down.
• 53:41
  I can't practice it until it's in.
• 53:43
  It has to be in front of an audience is where it's practice.
• 53:46
  So I I live and die by the audience's reaction.
• 53:50
  That's a legitimate. Point now.
• 53:53
  I, I feel pretty confident in my judgment, you know, as in like,
• 53:57
  hey, I think this is really going to work.
• 53:59
  If I put this joke before that joke and it can lead into
• 54:02
  something else, I can kind of write that whole thing and, and
• 54:05
  make it work together. But sometimes it don't.
• 54:09
  Sometimes you go up there and the room's just quiet and you're
• 54:11
  like, OK, let me just mark that one off the fucking list because
• 54:15
  that shit was not funny, apparently.
• 54:17
  You know, You know, sometimes you just got to figure it out
• 54:19
  the hard way. Well, you need.
• 54:21
  The audience to work out your timing too, right?
• 54:25
  Yeah, yeah. And different audiences are
• 54:28
  different. Sure, you know if you're.
• 54:32
  Doing If you're doing a a bar show, your comedy has to be
• 54:36
  faster because if you if you put pauses or hesitations in between
• 54:40
  your jokes, you know it doesn't take long for a drunk to get
• 54:43
  distracted, right? Right.
• 54:46
  So if I, if I tell a joke and I, yeah, and I put a pause in the
• 54:50
  middle of my joke, then that drunk is like, oh, did you hear?
• 54:54
  I just reminds me of a joke I heard one time.
• 54:56
  They'll turn and start talking to their friend.
• 54:58
  Now you got to get them back. So in, in bar shows, your comedy
• 55:01
  has to be faster. In, in bigger venue shows or
• 55:04
  theater shows, you can slow down, take your time, you can
• 55:07
  stretch, you can allow for the laugh to build.
• 55:10
  So it is different. The timing is different
• 55:13
  depending on your audience and the venue.
• 55:15
  But timing is, I mean, that's what I've got a joke about that
• 55:18
  right now. So is, you know, I don't know if
• 55:21
  you know this, but it's a it's while you're while you're having
• 55:24
  sex with your wife is a bad time to run a new joke by her.
• 55:28
  It's just bad timing. And I don't know if you know
• 55:30
  this, but comedy is all about timing, you know.
• 55:34
  So that's a new joke that I just run a couple weeks ago, you
• 55:38
  know, but sometimes in the Middlesex I'll think it's
• 55:40
  something funny and I try to run it by her and she just doesn't
• 55:42
  appreciate my humor. You know, I wouldn't.
• 55:45
  I wouldn't. Imagine so.
• 55:47
  Yeah, no. Is everything my wife's side of
• 55:50
  that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 55:54
  she is my wife's. Because like my wife made a
• 55:56
  point. His wife doesn't get his.
• 55:58
  Humor. No, she, I mean she she doesn't,
• 56:01
  she gets my humor, but she doesn't think the general
• 56:04
  population would get my humor is what it is.
• 56:07
  Like she so there, yeah. There are definitely things that
• 56:12
  I've come up with, like I run jokes by my wife all the time
• 56:15
  and she and there's things that she's like, I don't think you
• 56:17
  should say that. I don't think you should say
• 56:19
  that in front of people. And I've got to tell her, well,
• 56:21
  hey, I need you to trust me because I I know that this joke
• 56:24
  will work, but she looks at it as oh, don't say that.
• 56:27
  That could be offensive. I don't want you.
• 56:29
  She doesn't want she's worried about me getting hurt by it,
• 56:31
  about people being mad at me or, you know, or or, you know,
• 56:34
  unfollowing me laughing and and I'm like, not laughing.
• 56:37
  Yeah, or not laughing, but that hurts the worst.
• 56:40
  There's would you not? Agree, Matt, that comedy, more
• 56:43
  than anything, has to push the boundaries of societal norm.
• 56:49
  Yeah, that's the point. The point of comedy is we're
• 56:53
  we're saying things that other people can't or probably
• 56:57
  shouldn't say in a in a work setting or at their family
• 57:01
  dinner table, I think even. More importantly than that, it's
• 57:06
  you have to be very careful to get people to understand that
• 57:09
  you are also literally saying things you do not mean right
• 57:14
  just to get a reaction from people.
• 57:18
  You might not. Believe that. 100%.
• 57:21
  Right. Yeah.
• 57:23
  And that they're they're a. 100% true.
• 57:26
  Yeah, some. Some versions of comedy are
• 57:28
  definitely that. It's people saying Anthony
• 57:32
  Jeselnik is a a hilarious comedian.
• 57:34
  It's very dark and he, he might have a joke about, you know,
• 57:39
  well, you know, I didn't want to do it, but she, she couldn't run
• 57:43
  away, so I had to fuck her. You know, obviously he didn't do
• 57:46
  that to somebody who was physically unable to get away.
• 57:49
  But he just says it is dark off the wall.
• 57:51
  Like, like, you know, shock jock type type humor.
• 57:56
  And that's why it's not humor. You're right.
• 57:59
  And that's not the style of comedy that I do.
• 58:02
  Yeah, right. That's, that's not, that's not
• 58:06
  the style of comedy that I do, but it is important.
• 58:10
  Like I also like, I won't do anything political.
• 58:13
  I don't do anything about politics.
• 58:16
  And I always tell people, first of all, yeah, so I've had, I've
• 58:20
  had people ask me to do like I talk shit about Biden or talk
• 58:25
  shit about Trump or talk shit about.
• 58:27
  And I'm like, I, I just don't do political comedy.
• 58:29
  They're like, why not? I'm like, well, first of all,
• 58:30
  I'm not smart enough. I'm not, I'm not educated enough
• 58:33
  to joke about those things. People who do political comedy
• 58:37
  well are very intelligent people.
• 58:40
  You know, Lewis Black is extremely smart.
• 58:43
  Yes. And the other reason I don't do
• 58:46
  it is, and this is an example I gave a guy in Amarillo, TX who
• 58:49
  was ready to fight. I said, here's the thing.
• 58:52
  I said I could sit up here and talk about how big of a whore
• 58:54
  your mom is and how everybody in this bars had a turn, and you
• 58:58
  would think that that's hilarious.
• 59:00
  But if I talk shit about the guy you voted for, you'll want to go
• 59:03
  out in the parking lot and fight.
• 59:05
  Now this is a guy who doesn't know you, he's never met you and
• 59:07
  doesn't give a shit about you, but you feel so strongly about
• 59:10
  your politics that you'll fight for it.
• 59:13
  And it doesn't make sense to me, so I just don't do it.
• 59:15
  I always find that. Adorable man that just, yeah.
• 59:18
  Those kind. Of people are adorable to me,
• 59:20
  it's like. You haven't really.
• 59:22
  Thought this through and that's where we have to part ways, you
• 59:26
  know the only the. Only way politician comedy,
• 59:29
  political comedy works is, is is impressions.
• 59:33
  If you're up there doing impressions of Clinton and, and,
• 59:36
  and, you know, I can imagine if you had what is it?
• 59:39
  What, what Frank Callendo doing fucking Biden, Obama, Trump and
• 59:44
  Clinton in one bit going voice to voice to voice to voice.
• 59:48
  Doesn't matter. What the hell is hilarious,
• 59:50
  right? That shit would be funny as
• 59:51
  hell. So that to me is the only way
• 59:53
  that the political aspect of comedy can can work is when
• 59:57
  you're doing impressions. Because then it doesn't matter
• 59:59
  what you're saying. You're just like, holy shit.
• 1:00:01
  It just sounds just like Clinton, you know, or I mean,
• 1:00:03
  right, Right. You know but but.
• 1:00:05
  You're right, then you. Got you, got the, you got the
• 1:00:10
  guys like Lewis Black who are He's not talking shit about the
• 1:00:13
  Republican Party or about the Democratic Party.
• 1:00:16
  He's talking shit about politics.
• 1:00:18
  He's he's a just two. He goes.
• 1:00:20
  It's right wing and left wing. I'm not sure you understand.
• 1:00:23
  Every bird's got 2 fucking wings.
• 1:00:25
  It's the same bird and he ain't worth the shit.
• 1:00:27
  What did George? Carlin, tell us it's a big club
• 1:00:30
  and you ain't in it. That's right, that's one of the
• 1:00:33
  best jokes ever. And it wasn't a joke, it was
• 1:00:36
  here's where you're getting fucked, but there's nothing you
• 1:00:39
  can do about it because it's a big club and you ain't in it.
• 1:00:42
  Right, yes, I mean, and those guys and, and I don't even know
• 1:00:47
  if how harsh George Garland was about the government.
• 1:00:51
  I don't I don't even know if his comedy would fly nowadays
• 1:00:54
  because people are so polarized by by politics and and the
• 1:00:58
  things that are going on the world right now.
• 1:00:59
  It's it's just so polarized. I don't know if it would even
• 1:01:02
  work now because people are so they're they're so personally
• 1:01:06
  invested in something that's not invested in them.
• 1:01:10
  And that doesn't make sense to me.
• 1:01:11
  It doesn't make. Sense so now back to the another
• 1:01:14
  for all common. I got your.
• 1:01:17
  Comedy shit. OK, so this is the name drop
• 1:01:22
  type moment here is there, what's the, what's the, what's
• 1:01:25
  the, I don't know, the biggest comedian you ever like opened
• 1:01:30
  for or, or were on stage with, you know, something to that
• 1:01:33
  effect that that was like, wow, that's yeah.
• 1:01:36
  It's like one of those moments where you're like, holy shit, I
• 1:01:38
  just did a show with this guy. Yeah, I just recently did.
• 1:01:43
  AI just recently opened for Jon Reep, which was kind of a a last
• 1:01:48
  minute He he made a post and he's like, hey, anybody want to
• 1:01:52
  come open for me in at this town, at this theater?
• 1:01:55
  And I was on my way back from a show the day before and it was I
• 1:01:59
  kind of it was 40. It had been 45 minutes.
• 1:02:01
  I'm away. So I just sent him a message.
• 1:02:03
  I was like, yeah, I can do it. He said come on.
• 1:02:05
  So I went and I got to open for him.
• 1:02:07
  But then probably probably the biggest name that I've worked
• 1:02:11
  with and and a guy that I want to give props to is David
• 1:02:16
  Koechner. Do you even, do you even know
• 1:02:19
  who David Koechner is? I don't.
• 1:02:21
  I don't know, doesn't ring a bell you.
• 1:02:23
  For sure know who he is, you just didn't know that was his
• 1:02:25
  name. You ever seen Anchorman?
• 1:02:29
  OK, the weird guy with the funny mouth, the.
• 1:02:32
  Yeah, yeah. What I mean, OK, Yeah, yes.
• 1:02:36
  I was thinking that when you said that.
• 1:02:38
  I was thinking that when you said that.
• 1:02:39
  But the way his name is spelled out, it doesn't.
• 1:02:41
  You don't think it would sound like it looks like coach?
• 1:02:43
  It looks like Coach, yeah. Yes, yes.
• 1:02:46
  But when they're doing afternoon delight, he was the one that.
• 1:02:50
  OK, Yeah. That's cool.
• 1:02:51
  So so I, I went and there was a, there was a club in Arkansas
• 1:02:56
  that had become an open for him. And this is where I want to give
• 1:02:59
  him his props because he didn't have to do this.
• 1:03:02
  I, I went there and I when he got there, I introduced myself.
• 1:03:05
  He goes, do you work here? And I said, no, I'm opening for
• 1:03:07
  you. And he goes, Nope, he goes in my
• 1:03:09
  rider. I don't have an opener.
• 1:03:10
  I've got the guy that travels with me.
• 1:03:12
  He's my feature. We don't use openers.
• 1:03:15
  And I was like, OK, I said that's that.
• 1:03:17
  You know, if it's in your rider, the club messed up, that's fine.
• 1:03:20
  But if you're not going to use me, I'm going to go ahead and go
• 1:03:23
  because it was a long drive for me.
• 1:03:25
  And he he goes, he goes, how, how long do you have to drive?
• 1:03:27
  Because it's I was supposed to be opening for him for five
• 1:03:29
  shows. It was a one show on Thursday,
• 1:03:34
  2:00 on Friday, 2 on Saturday. And I said, what was about a
• 1:03:39
  four hour drive for me. He goes, well, hold on just a
• 1:03:40
  minute. And he goes and he talks to his
• 1:03:42
  feature guy named Rob Mayer, another very funny comic.
• 1:03:45
  And he comes back and he goes how much time they say he could
• 1:03:48
  do. I said, well, they told me I was
• 1:03:49
  going to be doing 10 at the beginning of every show.
• 1:03:51
  He said, I can't give you 10, but I'll give you 7 and you can
• 1:03:54
  do it for tonight, The One Show tonight.
• 1:03:56
  That way the club still has to pay you.
• 1:03:58
  And I was like, hey, man, I appreciate that.
• 1:04:01
  You know, that way I still get paid.
• 1:04:03
  So I did, I got, I went up, I did 7 minutes.
• 1:04:05
  At the end of that 7 minutes, I brought up his feature and then
• 1:04:08
  I went back to the green room and he was in there and he said,
• 1:04:11
  holy shit, you're actually funny.
• 1:04:13
  If you want to stay all weekend, you can.
• 1:04:16
  So then he let me stay and I got to do, I got to do all five
• 1:04:18
  shows with him. Like he like we went to lunch
• 1:04:21
  and. Breakfast.
• 1:04:21
  Every day together like he didn't have to do that and super
• 1:04:25
  cool. Like before I left, he handed
• 1:04:28
  me, he said, let me have your phone real quick.
• 1:04:30
  So I I gave him my phone. He turned it on.
• 1:04:32
  He made a voice memo or a like a a video memo called all my kids
• 1:04:38
  by name. Like he like just in
• 1:04:40
  conversation. He had remembered all my kids
• 1:04:42
  names and he said, hey, you know, holding Cody and Corinne,
• 1:04:46
  I just want to tell you, I worked with your dad this
• 1:04:47
  weekend. He's a great guy.
• 1:04:49
  Maybe one day I'll get to meet y'all handing my I mean, just a
• 1:04:51
  great dude. Great dude.
• 1:04:53
  That's awesome. Yeah.
• 1:04:54
  So David Kettner, that's yeah, he was a really awesome dude,
• 1:04:58
  right? On those are one of the.
• 1:05:01
  Two biggest that I've worked with.
• 1:05:02
  OK. So where do?
• 1:05:05
  People find all social media platforms or or Matt Farrell
• 1:05:11
  comedy except for Instagram and it's Matt J Farrell, OK?
• 1:05:17
  I got to make sure that I'm friends with you on there, that
• 1:05:20
  I might have overlooked you. So I'll do that when we get off
• 1:05:22
  here. Yeah, I know.
• 1:05:23
  We're. Friends on my I think I just.
• 1:05:24
  Go. Yeah, I think last night.
• 1:05:28
  Last night or the day? Before, Yeah, we, we, I saw
• 1:05:31
  that. Are you that you, are you are
• 1:05:33
  you friend? Do you follow the The Chris and
• 1:05:35
  Mike Show on Facebook? He does.
• 1:05:37
  OK. Oh.
• 1:05:37
  Yeah, 'cause I tagged you. Hello, I tagged you in the
• 1:05:40
  picture. He actually put a review.
• 1:05:41
  On there quite some time ago, like back in June or something
• 1:05:44
  if I remember right. Cool.
• 1:05:47
  It was it. Was a while back and then like
• 1:05:48
  when y'all, when y'all message back and you're like, all right,
• 1:05:50
  what do you think about September?
• 1:05:51
  And I was like, holy shit, these guys are booked way out.
• 1:05:53
  That's awesome. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:55
  We're booking November now, man, Yeah.
• 1:05:58
  That just happened all the sudden through his campaign.
• 1:06:01
  It did. It was.
• 1:06:02
  It was I did, we did a, we did a stupid.
• 1:06:04
  It wasn't even a bit man. It was we were talking, we had
• 1:06:07
  somebody that that couldn't make the show.
• 1:06:09
  So Mike and I were just having a normal little conversation and
• 1:06:12
  and like legit, it was just a happenstance.
• 1:06:15
  I was talking about about how we could get guests on the show and
• 1:06:18
  he's and I was like, you know, maybe we should get a zombie in
• 1:06:20
  the show. And Mike's like, I don't know if
• 1:06:21
  a zombie would really really, you know, be a really good
• 1:06:24
  fitter. Some stupid bit that wasn't even
• 1:06:27
  a bit. It was just him and I.
• 1:06:28
  It just. Worked for 30 seconds or 35
• 1:06:32
  seconds, whatever. He turned it into a clip and.
• 1:06:35
  Then and then I threw that clip, I threw that clip out there just
• 1:06:38
  to promote the show. And just from that clip, it's
• 1:06:40
  like I ever saw all of a sudden fucking people were like out of
• 1:06:43
  the woodwork. I want to come on your show.
• 1:06:44
  I want to come on your show. I'm like, well, who are you?
• 1:06:46
  And you know, and then it just kind of grew from there.
• 1:06:49
  But it was. That's the kind of cool thing,
• 1:06:51
  kind of like your million video for flipping off your son.
• 1:06:54
  You don't know what's going to work, and it just works
• 1:06:57
  sometimes. Well look at the fuck.
• 1:06:58
  Ton video. That one got sent.
• 1:06:59
  Oh fuck ton. Videos or something?
• 1:07:01
  That was great. We we looked up what a metric
• 1:07:04
  fuck ton was and then he read the definition on the air and I
• 1:07:09
  was dying. He I was like, you got to stop,
• 1:07:11
  man. I can't breathe.
• 1:07:12
  You know, that was part of the funny part of the clip was just.
• 1:07:15
  Not just the. Definition.
• 1:07:17
  But me laughing behind it, I just couldn't breathe.
• 1:07:19
  It was so fucking funny, the fact that.
• 1:07:21
  It's that's a hilarious. Word that can be.
• 1:07:23
  Defined is the thing that was funny to me.
• 1:07:26
  Yeah, he. Found a legitimate definition
• 1:07:28
  from it wasn't Webster's. It was like American Heritage
• 1:07:31
  Dictionary or something. Yeah.
• 1:07:33
  He's like this is. A legitimate metric fuck ton is
• 1:07:36
  in this dictionary, yeah. It was.
• 1:07:38
  That's hilarious. Talking about.
• 1:07:40
  We were talking about fuck, all the different words with fuck,
• 1:07:42
  and then somehow it just evolved into a fuck ton.
• 1:07:44
  And then I'm like, wait a minute.
• 1:07:45
  So I Google machined it and like holy shit here you go.
• 1:07:51
  All that, all that stuff, all that stuff.
• 1:07:53
  They worked so hard so that we could be well informed.
• 1:07:57
  And you're using it to look up the word fuck ton.
• 1:07:59
  Of course we are. We're we're still. 13 year old
• 1:08:04
  boys inside our brain. Yeah, yeah, random words and
• 1:08:08
  boobs. That's the only thing I use the
• 1:08:10
  Internet for is just looking shit up.
• 1:08:13
  Listen, we're still the most important thing on the most
• 1:08:17
  money making thing on the Internet that tells you
• 1:08:19
  everything you need to. I know.
• 1:08:21
  Dude, if there was any way I could get into that business I
• 1:08:23
  would, but I stand zero chance in the porn business that makes.
• 1:08:27
  Probably. Well, two of us for sure.
• 1:08:29
  What if you? Did an only fans page.
• 1:08:31
  While you're having sex with your wife, you're you're laying
• 1:08:33
  out your comedy bit. Right.
• 1:08:36
  You know, I don't think she would go for it.
• 1:08:37
  So I would have to recruit somebody else.
• 1:08:39
  OK, OK. OK.
• 1:08:40
  And I don't know if she'd. Go for that either I just.
• 1:08:43
  I wanted to try to keep in the family, just tell her I like
• 1:08:46
  the. Fresh ideas, though.
• 1:08:47
  I like the fresh ideas. Yeah, yeah, I.
• 1:08:50
  I tried to just coming up with shit.
• 1:08:51
  Fresh ideas. Man, you know, I tried.
• 1:08:54
  Yeah. I mean just.
• 1:08:54
  Keep him rolling, he's a good. This is the.
• 1:08:56
  This is. The real think tank.
• 1:08:59
  Yeah, exactly. This kind of for sure.
• 1:09:02
  Absolutely this. Is where good ideas come from.
• 1:09:05
  Yeah, what? What kind of shows you got
• 1:09:07
  coming up? Where can people see you live?
• 1:09:11
  Man, all over. I've got the show coming up at
• 1:09:13
  Crackpots in Ohio in two weeks. I've got I've taken off the next
• 1:09:18
  week and 1/2. So then I've got Crackpots in
• 1:09:21
  Ohio and then after that I'll be in Chicago at the The Den
• 1:09:25
  Theater and then Joplin, Joplin, MO.
• 1:09:29
  And I can't remember the name of the venue, which kind of feel
• 1:09:33
  bad for not remember the name of the venue, but yeah, all over
• 1:09:35
  the place. So definitely, I mean, if
• 1:09:37
  they'll go check out my my social media, give me a like and
• 1:09:40
  a follow 'cause like I said, that's we live and buy by we
• 1:09:42
  live and die by numbers. We need followers do.
• 1:09:46
  You have a YouTube channel too I.
• 1:09:49
  Do and I don't do as much with it as I should, OK, But I do I
• 1:09:53
  do have a lot of videos, OK. That's been our.
• 1:09:56
  Savior Matt. Yeah, so if you.
• 1:09:58
  Start, if you start YouTube some reels, yeah, if you start doing
• 1:10:02
  some shorts like 3045 seconds and just kind of get in the
• 1:10:06
  habit of of popping those up on a daily basis, I think you'll
• 1:10:09
  see a nice growth because we have and it was just really by
• 1:10:12
  pure stupidity, I think, right. Now I was going to start.
• 1:10:15
  Doing something and boom. YouTube and TikTok are the two
• 1:10:19
  biggest things that you're going to find success at because all
• 1:10:23
  the kids are on TikTok and everyone's on YouTube.
• 1:10:26
  I told Chris the other day when we were talking on the phone,
• 1:10:30
  when I asked people do they have a Spotify or do they have an
• 1:10:33
  Apple podcast? It's like 1 out of 10 will say
• 1:10:37
  yes. But if you ask somebody if they
• 1:10:39
  have a YouTube channel, 10 out of 10 people say it doesn't
• 1:10:42
  matter if they're 75 years old or seven.
• 1:10:44
  They all have a YouTube channel right?
• 1:10:46
  So keep that in. Mind.
• 1:10:48
  Yeah. I need to do, I need to do more
• 1:10:50
  with, I need to do more with all of them.
• 1:10:52
  I'm the least productive with the social media stuff.
• 1:10:56
  I try to post stuff all the time.
• 1:10:58
  I'm just not good at keeping up with it.
• 1:11:01
  But I and I, I know how important it is, so I should get
• 1:11:03
  better at it. I just, I just wanted to, you
• 1:11:06
  know, ride around and tell jokes to people.
• 1:11:07
  So I'm just not good at the social media part.
• 1:11:10
  Well, I'll tell. You the same thing that Chris
• 1:11:11
  and I tell everybody if you ever come through central Illinois,
• 1:11:14
  I'm not sure when you're in Chicago, I might be able to make
• 1:11:16
  that happen. But if you're ever like Peoria
• 1:11:20
  or Joliet or out near Chris in Phoenix, definitely hit us up,
• 1:11:24
  man. We'll come see you for sure.
• 1:11:25
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:11:27
  Maybe I was just talking, I was just visiting with a girl who
• 1:11:29
  produces shows out in Phoenix. Her name's Kayla Howard and I,
• 1:11:33
  so I, I reached out to her about maybe getting out there to do
• 1:11:36
  some shows. And I've got a friend of mine
• 1:11:38
  who's a, a real good comic that's from Phoenix.
• 1:11:40
  He lives in Austin now named John Cardin.
• 1:11:43
  So he's supposed to be hooking up with some stuff.
• 1:11:45
  And then the, the Chicago and you know, the, the Illinois way.
• 1:11:48
  I'm working on getting some more stuff out that way too.
• 1:11:50
  So for sure I'll, if I'm ever going to be out on you guys next
• 1:11:53
  to the woods, I'll, I'll arrange you.
• 1:11:54
  Hit us up, man. Absolutely man, absolutely be
• 1:11:56
  awesome. I appreciate you guys letting me
• 1:11:59
  come on anytime. Man, so.
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  So he's Matt Farrell. You.
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  Can find him all the all the social media platforms, go check
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  him out, go like subscribe to all his channels and pages,
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  because again, he's he made the importance that they get their
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  gigs on followers and subscribers, which is just
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  crazy. I mean, you could be the
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  stupidest fucking comedian in the world, but you have a
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  million followers, you're getting a job.
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  I'd I'd, you know, rather be. There's a bunch.
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  Of them working right, there's a bunch of them.
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  It ain't worth that shit that's getting booked more than me.
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  More power to them. So go get your money guys,
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  right? Go get your money.
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  So we we always close our shows with this.
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  You're feeling bad, you're being depressed, You know, don't,
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  don't be stupid and take your life away.
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  Somebody's going to miss you. Somebody Loves You.
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  Don't leave the hole in somebody else's heart.
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  You know, call somebody, go outside and run, go workout, go
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  scream in a pillow journal, do something, go to sleep,
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  meditate, wake up tomorrow. It will be a better day, we
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  promise you, because you're still going to be in this world
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  with us and those people that love you where we respect that.
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  He's Mike. I'm Chris.
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  That's Matt Farrell. You can find him again.
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  mattfarrell.com. Do you have that as a website?
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  Yeah, I do. OK, so mattfarrell.com and then
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  all the social media stuff, Facebook, YouTube's, all that
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  kind of jazz. So check him out, go see him
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  live. Funny guy, nice human, good
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  conversation. We'll have you back on the show
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  here at some point in time because we like to have people
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  come back. So maybe after the first year
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  we'll get you back back dialed in and then we can talk about
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  the Netflix special that we're all going to do, right?
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  Yes. We should.
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  We're working on it. We're working on it.
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  Yeah, we should. Yeah, we should be ready to.
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  Go with you, Matt. Yeah, don't don't go away yet
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  just because we're stopping the show For those of you on Twitch
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  and YouTube, thank you very much.
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  We'll see you next week. Peace.
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  Got to make sure everybody. Don't want to fly and disturb to
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  you? Look the chamber, go insane,
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  fight. Oh, you will go.
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  Feel the same behind your eyes. Feel yourself and meet yourself.
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  Take a moment, look until you. See.
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  It but the bail. That's you, but you must win.
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  Who is this baby? Come down here, we haven't found
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  solids in the sand from fighting.
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  Wait for the dead. We're just going around here.
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  But in the wind you ain't no creature.
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  We're playing Smile. And you took your grin on the
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  almighty day. You've got a dream.
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  Who in your life to keep our soul in every man.
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  Take the trail behind your eyes. Feel the soul.
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  Everyone shame now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  yeah.