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The Next Round: Dabo Swinney Rips College Football as Lane Kiffin & LSU’s NFL Player Controversy Grows | Hour 1 · The Next Round

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  Speaker 1: College football in a second, but the Tennessee Titans, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, when you think Titans, do you think Jets–
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  Speaker 1: and Cardinals and Raiders. Brown gave us this Scotty Scheffler stat.
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  Speaker 1: What was it the other day? Scotty Scheffler, more wins.
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  Speaker 4: More wins than Arkansas. And there were several schools, but
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  Speaker 4: Arkansas was the one that jumped out since 2022. You
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  Speaker 4: got them all?
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  Speaker 2: I got the list. Since 2022.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he won again, by the way, so we just added.
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  Speaker 1: Scotty Scheffler has more wins since 2022 than Auburn, than Arkansas,
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  Speaker 1: Mississippi State, Virginia Tech, primetime Colorado. Northwestern, Michigan State, Boston College, Stanford, Purdue,
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  Speaker 1: and Oklahoma State. And in the NFL since 2022, Scheffler
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  Speaker 1: has more wins than the Cardinals, the Raiders, the Panthers,
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  Speaker 1: the Jets, the Giants, and the Tennessee Titans.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 4: When you consider, especially the NFL wins, Kit, 17 chances
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  Speaker 4: a year and I mean Sheffler technically gets that many
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  Speaker 4: chances a year but nobody would not even Tiger Woods
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  Speaker 4: wins to.
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  Speaker 2: That so what is Sheffler's total wins I think it's.
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  Speaker 4: 23 now if I remember right yeah yeah I think
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  Speaker 4: it's 23 in that in that window wow which is insane.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah since 2022 so some brands there in college and
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  Speaker 1: I mean a couple of those that you expect in
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  Speaker 1: the in the NFL the Cardinals and the Jets but
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  Speaker 1: A little surprising that the Titans fall into that, but
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  Speaker 1: that's how it's been lately.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if.
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  Speaker 3: I had a prop out there and I could play
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  Speaker 3: Scheffler against a lot of those teams, I think I
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  Speaker 3: would take those teams this year.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like if they did a standalone like Scheffler, whatever that
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  Speaker 3: number of wins is.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I mean, how many times do you think I'd
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  Speaker 2: win this year?
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  Speaker 4: So back in January, if I could have taken Scheffler
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  Speaker 4: wins versus Arkansas wins, you'd have gone Scheffler.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think I would have gone to Arkansas. You
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  Speaker 2: would have gone to Arkansas, really? I would have lost
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  Speaker 2: that one. I'm talking about this year.
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  Speaker 1: How much did Scheffler get this 2026 golfing year?
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  Speaker 2: How many did he get? I think five. I was
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  Speaker 2: going to say five. Just guessing. So Arkansas six, you
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  Speaker 2: think maybe?
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't do Arkansas.
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  Speaker 3: I would have to be selective. No, I thought you
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  Speaker 3: were talking about last January. I told you I would
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  Speaker 3: have been wrong on that.
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  Speaker 2: Scheffler. You would take Auburn right now, would you not?
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  Speaker 2: I would take Auburn to beat five. Surely I would
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  Speaker 2: take Auburn to beat five. No, he only had three
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  Speaker 2: wins this year.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So damn, when did he get all his wins? Well,
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  Speaker 2: one Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: Or Sunday, I should say. He's got 13 top fives.
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  Speaker 4: So he's in the mix. 20 starts, 13 top fives.
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  Speaker 1: we have a little developing news from Pete Nacos on 3Sports.
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  Speaker 2: Tell it to me, Brooks.
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  Speaker 7: So he is reporting that, quote, several SEC teams are
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  Speaker 7: looking at adding former NFL players, not just LSU, who
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  Speaker 7: has taken the brunt of kind of being the national
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  Speaker 7: scapegoat on this topic, and that SEC teams have to
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  Speaker 7: finalize their rosters early at least 24 hours before their
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  Speaker 7: game starts. Some play Thursday, some play Saturday. I guess
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  Speaker 7: for the ones Thursday, they're SOL because the court ruling
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  Speaker 7: is Thursday to decide all this. The SEC says they're
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  Speaker 7: going to abide by whatever the court rules. So I
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  Speaker 7: guess everybody in the conference is playing this out. It
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting. I'll let you guys react to it. I
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  Speaker 2: would say this.
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  Speaker 1: On Thursday is the Sankey and the SEC in court.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that's the Louisiana court, right, where the restraining
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  Speaker 1: order is?
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  Speaker 2: I think that's right, yeah. Yeah. If that does not.
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  Speaker 1: Go the SEC's way, I'm told expect a federal lawsuit
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  Speaker 1: like the Big 12 did on Friday to try to
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  Speaker 1: shut it down before we get to the games. All
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  Speaker 1: the SEC presidents are saying that they are going to
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  Speaker 1: abide by the rules of that the SEC and they
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  Speaker 1: expect every league member to do that. It doesn't surprise
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  Speaker 1: me that other people are exploring the NFL players. Keep
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  Speaker 1: in mind the rule is that you've signed an NFL contract.
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  Speaker 1: The big lineman for Texas that is back, can't think
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  Speaker 1: of his name right now, but he's an offensive lineman starter.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's their center or not, but
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  Speaker 1: like Sark's been heavy on Kiffin, But he's let this
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  Speaker 1: guy come back. He went and went to two tryouts
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  Speaker 1: for NFL teams and didn't make it. So he never
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  Speaker 1: signed with anybody. But he's back on Texas's team. So
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  Speaker 1: there's a fine line of being in an NFL camp.
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  Speaker 2: Insanity with the timing, though.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like, you know, Brooks just said you got to have
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  Speaker 2: the 24 hour window. But I mean, we're. What are we,
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  Speaker 2: 72 hours away from games?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, teams like Missouri, their roster's due in
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  Speaker 4: a matter of hours. You know, like Missouri that is
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  Speaker 4: playing Thursday night. Close of business today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, close of business today.
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  Speaker 4: They've got to have their roster in, and.
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  Speaker 2: We're still discussing this.
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  Speaker 4: Oklahoma tomorrow before we even know the court result. I
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  Speaker 4: have not seen Alex Golish comment directly on this. Perhaps
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  Speaker 4: he has, and I've just missed it. I do know
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  Speaker 4: Kalen DeBoer was asked directly about it and didn't. out-and-out
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  Speaker 4: say it, but didn't out-and-out distance himself from it either.
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  Speaker 4: He made it sound like, you know... There's some players
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  Speaker 4: out there, I think is the way he said it.
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  Speaker 4: There's a couple of players out there.
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  Speaker 2: I think C.J.
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  Speaker 1: Dupree is a guy that Alabama could still use. Though
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  Speaker 1: I like Big 40, I can't think of his name
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  Speaker 1: now when I'm watching the practice stuff. Looks like he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a pretty good little tight end for Alabama.
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  Speaker 2: But I... Cameron Lott, too. He got cut. Detroit cut
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  Speaker 2: him this week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's some guys who... Remember, you have to
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  Speaker 1: fall into that five and five category.
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  Speaker 2: You have to be in the 2022 class. You can't
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  Speaker 2: be bringing back.
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  Speaker 1: Who's the kid that just got cut, Trayvon Diggs. You
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  Speaker 1: can't be bringing back Diggs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I still don't understand how you still– I mean,
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  Speaker 3: this past weekend we had two seven-year guys on that
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  Speaker 3: offensive line for Virginia.
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  Speaker 4: You say you can't do it until Trayvon Diggs goes
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  Speaker 4: to a judge. He gets a judge to say, well,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, this doesn't add up.
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  Speaker 1: Trust me, this is all going to work out before
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  Speaker 1: we play on Saturday. It may be some murkiness on
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  Speaker 1: the Thursday night games for Missouri and maybe Friday for Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 1: But before we get to Saturday's games, all this NFL
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  Speaker 1: stuff will be shut down.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I say this without knowing how the legal situation
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  Speaker 4: would view this, okay? How the legal authorities, the judges
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  Speaker 4: would view this. But just yesterday, the college football playoff
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  Speaker 4: committee met, not the committee, but the board, whatever, the directors,
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  Speaker 4: not the people that select the teams, but the people
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  Speaker 4: that run the playoff. All the commissioners plus Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 4: And the discussion was there that the college football playoff
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  Speaker 4: could just out and out say, we're not taking a
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  Speaker 4: team that's got anybody that came from the NFL. We
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  Speaker 4: disqualify you. That would shut this down immediately if it
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  Speaker 4: stood up in court. They didn't make a decision, but again,
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  Speaker 4: you're not impeding anybody's rights. if you're okay, you can
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  Speaker 4: play at LSU, but LSU just can't play in our playoff.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. I don't think that would stand up in court.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it would stand up in court.
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  Speaker 1: You're not violating my human rights or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: If it does, this is over. Like Lane Kiffin might
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  Speaker 4: consider NFL players, but if the college football playoff committee
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  Speaker 4: came out and said, you can play all you want,
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  Speaker 4: but you're not going to be in our playoff.
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  Speaker 2: Ultimately, Lane Kiffin would never do it.
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  Speaker 1: Ultimately, all the presidents are going to, Played by the
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  Speaker 1: SEC rules.
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  Speaker 3: I thought we already had that. I just can't believe
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  Speaker 3: we're still talking about this. You know, it's just amazing.
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  Speaker 3: You would think that the other teams would definitely back off.
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  Speaker 3: Why would you even, like– I just don't understand this.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Lane Kiffin, it's one thing for him to
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  Speaker 3: die on that hill, but it looks so bad.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Then other guys now are circling around and thinking about doing.
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  Speaker 1: This clemson lsu one of the biggest games in the
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  Speaker 1: country this weekend dabbo sweeney uh i mean dabbo's been
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  Speaker 1: around long enough you know you don't want to give
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  Speaker 1: any bulletin board stuff when you're the underdog and you
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  Speaker 1: may be going in sneaking up on lsu in their
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  Speaker 1: home stadium and the debut there of uh Lane Kiffin
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  Speaker 1: is the coach in LSU. So don't say anything that
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  Speaker 1: could motivate the other side.
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  Speaker 8: No, it doesn't frustrate me. I don't give a– I
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  Speaker 8: think it's– I mean, honestly, rarely am I at a
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  Speaker 8: loss for words, but Chapel Womack, kind of a loss
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  Speaker 8: of words. I would just say it's kind of embarrassing.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, it's just embarrassing that that's where we are.
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  Speaker 8: And I don't blame the kids. and people trying to
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  Speaker 8: take advantage of the system. I just think it's embarrassing
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  Speaker 8: where we are with college football. And we've been there
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  Speaker 8: for a while. So, it didn't, I just, I just
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  Speaker 8: keep my energy and my focus on and my energy
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  Speaker 8: on the things that I control and the things that
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  Speaker 8: matter and that's these kids here and our team. But,
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  Speaker 8: you know, all that outside stuff, I mean, we just
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  Speaker 8: kind of, we just kind of, no pun intended, we
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  Speaker 8: just stay in our lane, you know, here at Clemson.
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  Speaker 2: Try to.
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  Speaker 8: Every now and then somebody will ram into us, but,
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  Speaker 8: but we try to just kind of handle our business here.
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  Speaker 2: But it's embarrassing. I mean, it really is.
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  Speaker 8: You know, we have no rules. There's no governance.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a joke. There's zero rules.
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  Speaker 8: And when you enforce rules, somebody just goes and finds
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  Speaker 8: a judge to say, no, you can't enforce that rule. So,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, never did I think I'd be living in
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  Speaker 8: an era like this, but that's where we are.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He went on to say, I mean, He went on
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  Speaker 1: to say, hey, back in June, I was a guest
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  Speaker 1: and I was watching practices with the Cleveland Browns. Am
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  Speaker 1: I going to get charged with tampering? Because I was
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  Speaker 1: at the Browns camp and watching the NFL players in person.
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  Speaker 1: And that one guy is leaving Ole Miss, going to LSU.
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  Speaker 1: Am I up for possibly being tampered? getting in the
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  Speaker 1: tampering situation. He was joking about being in an NFL camp.
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  Speaker 3: So when he says embarrassing, you know, I thought early
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  Speaker 3: he was talking about Lane Kiffin specifically, and then it
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  Speaker 3: was more about college football, just the state of college football,
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  Speaker 3: but it seems like he kind of circled back around.
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  Speaker 2: Lane was clearly on his mind. As Brooks said, LSU
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  Speaker 2: is the face of this. Oh, there's no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Even though other people are maybe exploring or keeping the
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  Speaker 1: door open just in case the ruling goes that way,
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  Speaker 1: I mean— LSU does have a couple of guys practicing.
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  Speaker 4: Which is weird because I go back to our Matt
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  Speaker 4: Moscona interview yesterday, and Matt was like, yeah, but really
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  Speaker 4: none of them are going to contribute.
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  Speaker 2: Well, one's a backup. They're not going to start.
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  Speaker 4: They're not going to start. They're barely going to contribute.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know why you would go to this trouble
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  Speaker 4: for non-contributors. That's what I'm looking.
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  Speaker 1: Forward to, to see if it's a distraction for LSU
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  Speaker 1: or has it just been a great cover.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, think about this.
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  Speaker 1: All this conversation has been about this roster and all this.
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  Speaker 1: It's taking a little pressure off of– the actual players
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  Speaker 1: who will play in the game for LSU before a
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  Speaker 1: big opening game. I mean, that's a, I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: could have a lot of hype around this game. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Marty Smith earlier today, I just saw this.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Marty Smith tweeted.
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  Speaker 1: This out and, and I've been to a lot of
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  Speaker 1: big games, including Saban's return, but Marty says LSU football
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  Speaker 1: officials confirmed to ESPN that Saturday season opening home game
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  Speaker 1: against Clemson is the most media celebrity credential game in
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  Speaker 1: tiger stadium history. Lane Kiffin's debut is going to be
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  Speaker 1: a wild scene in Death Valley. So that means it's
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  Speaker 1: a crazier, more credentialed scene than Nick Saban returning in 2008.
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  Speaker 2: I don't feel that kind of buzz. I really don't either.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe the biggest game could end up being the biggest
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  Speaker 3: game of week one, but it just doesn't feel like
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  Speaker 3: it's that kind of buzz. But back to my buddy C.
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  Speaker 3: Stu that doesn't leave the couch is talking about going
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  Speaker 3: to Baton Rouge this morning.
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  Speaker 2: So this is all just excitement over Lane Kiffin? It's
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  Speaker 2: got to be. Well, I mean, part of it, too,
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  Speaker 2: is like... It's a name-brand game.
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  Speaker 4: It's the only one on Saturday. It's the only name-brand
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  Speaker 4: game on Saturday.
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  Speaker 5: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: It's the biggest game, yeah. I mean, there's no other
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  Speaker 2: name-brand game on Saturday.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: There isn't. You know, you've got.
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  Speaker 4: Some name-ish brand games on Sunday and Monday, but there's
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  Speaker 4: one name-brand game on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So, I mean, that's going to draw in... That is
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  Speaker 4: going to draw in the media part of that. The
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  Speaker 4: celebrity part of that is what is interesting to me because...
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  Speaker 4: What's the celebrity angle here? I know when we had
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  Speaker 4: Game of the Century in Tuscaloosa. When we had Game
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  Speaker 4: of the Century in Tuscaloosa or when 2019 LSU came in,
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  Speaker 4: was that the one? LeBron was at one of them.
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  Speaker 4: Was it Game of the Century I think LeBron was at?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you got that. It was two top fives
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  Speaker 3: going at it. It was late in the season.
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  Speaker 4: And in 2019, President Trump was there, right? When Alabama
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  Speaker 4: and LSU played in 2019. This is an unranked Clemson team.
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  Speaker 4: They're not even in the top 25.
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  Speaker 1: Keep in mind, when you're talking about celebrities, you also got–
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  Speaker 1: The NFL isn't playing this weekend, so you have a
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  Speaker 1: little downtime for some NFL stars. You could have Jamar there.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: You could have Jefferson there.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels won't be there. Jaden Daniels will not be there.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying. There could be a
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: lot of these LSU greats. Joe Burrow could be there.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you guys want his celebrity. If I
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: was offered a flight over there Saturday, I wouldn't go.
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't want nothing out, especially since Marty said that.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: The last thing I want to do is be in
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: that mess. I'm just surprised it's that big of a deal.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's the Lane Kiffin effect, I guess, and
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: the excitement.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: For Lane Kiffin is crazy.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: And one of the brands in college football, at a
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: venue under the lights to start off the season. A
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: lot of pluses about this game. Sam Levitt's the quarterback
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: for LSU. Made his fame at Arizona State, leading the
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Devils to the playoffs, but now he's the hand-picked quarterback
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: to lead Lane Kiffin's first team. He got asked this
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: week about the biggest misconception about Lane Kiffin.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Sam, I'm not sure if you've been on Twitter or recently.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: Hopefully not.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: What's the biggest misperception about Coach Kiffin, do you think,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: from the outside looking in?
• 15:48
  Speaker 9: That's a good question. I guess everyone knows he's really
• 15:53
  Speaker 9: forward thinking, but I think the coolest thing about him
• 15:55
  Speaker 9: and just everybody else upstairs is just the camaraderie from
• 15:59
  Speaker 9: the coaching staff perspective.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: They really do feel like a family.
• 16:02
  Speaker 9: They enjoy spending time with each other, running around on
• 16:05
  Speaker 9: the field, competing and everything, playing pickleball. Um, so it's
• 16:08
  Speaker 9: been really cool to see just how, you know, they
• 16:10
  Speaker 9: operate upstairs. Everyone gets along really well. Um, and then
• 16:14
  Speaker 9: that trickles down to the entire organization, you know, everything
• 16:17
  Speaker 9: starts from the top and goes down and, you know,
• 16:20
  Speaker 9: the whole team's been vibing in, um, playing as a
• 16:23
  Speaker 9: collective group and unit. Um, and that only happens because
• 16:26
  Speaker 9: of the way that everything is up is upstairs, you know,
• 16:29
  Speaker 9: and it goes into the, all the position rooms. And
• 16:31
  Speaker 9: when we're sitting in here for unit and team meetings, uh,
• 16:34
  Speaker 9: just the way that coaches are able to call on
• 16:35
  Speaker 9: other coaches and, um, They understand exactly what they're going
• 16:39
  Speaker 9: to get out of each other. So he just does
• 16:41
  Speaker 9: a great job, you know, creating that from the top.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Now, you picture Saban in his days of being buttoned
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: up top to the bottom. Is that the perception you
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: ever get of Lane Kiffin, that everything is buttoned up
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: inside his program top to the bottom?
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Perception-wise, no. No, perception-wise, no, but in reality, probably so.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, most of these guys that are Saban, you know, protégés,
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, they try to run it exactly like Saban
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: ran it. Now some can do it and others can't.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Kirby's done it. Kirk Cignetti's done it.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Part of the Saban documentary that is leaked is him
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: discussing Kiffin's departure. And in the course that I don't think,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: I can't remember if Saban said it or the narrator
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: said it, that part of the reason Saban decided to
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: move on after the Washington game, before the Clemson game,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: was that he was late for several meetings, which that
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: is not buttoned up.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: That is not buttoned up.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: The opposite of being buttoned up is being fired between
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: semifinal games in the playoffs.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: And we all heard stories about him calling plays they
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: hadn't practiced in weeks.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: I talked to somebody that was on the staff that
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: was like, the team was perplexed and furious because he's
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: calling plays that were not in the game plan. They
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: had not run since like week six. And Lane's calling
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: them during the game. And Jalen Hurts is looking at
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: the sideline like, what are we doing?
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, he wasn't even running his own Tinder account
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: back in the day. I legitimately heard that. I think
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: things have changed for Lane internally as a coach, though.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: And that's why I don't know why he deals with
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: all this other bullshit.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Well, my point being, it could just be camouflage to
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: take a little heat off of his team. The show
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: that is Lane Kiffin, Maybe he's found that, maybe last
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: year at Ole Miss, he found that perfect mix of,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I can do all this that is sort of like
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: a force field that keeps it off of my team
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: and the attraction is all on me.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Well, I saw somewhere the most overrated team of college
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: football this year is LSU. Now, the five of us,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: we did our 12-team playoffs and nobody had LSU in it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Not one of them.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, LSU didn't go until later in the draft last night,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: like 30 or something.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, there were a lot of teams that went
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: in front of LSU, so I don't know.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: It's kind of weird to think there is a big expectation.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: I think the expectation is more in the future for
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: LSU over the next two or three years. But I'm
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: telling you, if Lane gets an opportunity, especially after those
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: comments from Dabo. If he can run it up, I
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: went back to when Lane was first game at Tennessee
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: against Western Kentucky, where he had players out, true freshmen,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: and scoring touchdowns late just to.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Run it up and give these guys opportunities. If he
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: gets an opportunity Saturday night to put on extra touchdowns,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: he'll do it.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Dot the I of a brand, even though they're not
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: in the top 25 in Clemson. One quick note about
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: another game that probably, well, I know it's not getting
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the same fanfare. as Clemson and LSU, but this is
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: another competitive game. Baylor and Auburn in Atlanta is a
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: really good contest. Here's Dave Aranda, Baylor's head coach, on
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the advantage of having DJ Lagway in this game because
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Lagway has seat time as an SEC quarterback, and so
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: he goes and plays an Auburn team that has the
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: skill set and the pedigree that he's used to playing against.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Here's Dave Aranda. Is there an.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: Advantage for D.J. having played in the SEC, going up
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: against an SEC team?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: It's an advantage that he's played a lot of football.
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: I think he's been in some big arenas, and he's
• 20:08
  Speaker 10: been in some bright lights. And so I don't think
• 20:12
  Speaker 10: nothing's going to phase him that way. I think he's
• 20:15
  Speaker 10: got really good confidence. I know that he likes the
• 20:17
  Speaker 10: plan that Spav has for him. And so to get
• 20:20
  Speaker 10: a real energized and confident DJ is a plus for us.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll go back to saying that you guys, some
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: of you were not with us on the next round,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the first time we ever heard Dave Aranda as a
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: head coach.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: He is the.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: NPR, NPR PBS coach in college football. Instantly you go
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: to him and it's like he's he's soft spoken and
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: he's like he's doing a podcast in a library.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: He whispers.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: And, you know, we'll have our man Matt Mosley on
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: later and he does a really good Dave Aranda impression.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Scott, can I ask Scott a question? Scott, are you
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: happy the Auburn Baylor two game series is about to
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: be over?
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: I am not sad that I will no longer be
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: listening to Dave Aranda pressers.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: This is great that Lagway's got SEC experience, but the
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: fact of the matter is he's 0-6 on the road,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: and he threw 14 interceptions last year. So what kind
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: of Lagway are you going to get? I would be
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: shocked if Lagway is as productive as his quarterback Sawyer
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Robertson was last year.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: If Lagway is, then Baylor could be one of the
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: surprises of the Big 12. Now that defense has got
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: to get right.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Speaking of surprises, in our next segment, I've given the
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: guys four categories to fill out. A player that will
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: burst on the scene in week one, the biggest surprise
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: in week one, player or team, biggest disappointment, and a
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: surprise storyline coming out of week one. All that's ahead
• 21:44
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• 21:46
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• 21:49
  Speaker 2: My life's like a Hank Williams Jr. song.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I'm very proud of my daddy's name. But would it
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: have been easier if my last name was Kroenke?
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Stan Kroenke, who owns LT's Rams, yesterday bought the majority
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: of the Los Angeles Angels. And you say to yourself,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: why would he waste so much money? The Angels are
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: a horrible organization. Well, keep in mind that Kroenke's Rams,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Arsenal in the Premier League, the Nuggets, the Avalanche, and
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: even an MLS team, the Rapid or whatever he owns,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: whoever that is, have won championships in recent years since
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: he bought them. So he's got an NBA, an NHL,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: an NFL, Super Bowl, MLS, and a Premier League championship.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: He owns all those teams, and now he's adding the
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Angels to that portfolio. His history would tell you the
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Angels are about to turn around and be a pretty
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: good baseball franchise.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the most....
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Irrelevant franchises in professional sports right now. And Artie Moreno
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: did such a bad job as the owner for the Angels.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: And now you get it. Say what you want about Kroenke.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: The guy is a great owner. He spends a ton
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: of money. I mean, look, the proof is right there.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I remember St.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Louis fans were so upset the way that they basically
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: tanked the entire product, got them out, took them back
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: to Los Angeles. I was excited because I've got no
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: affiliation with St.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Louis anymore.
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: St.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Louis fans hate him, but you can't deny what he
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: did with the Rams.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: How much money does this guy have?
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I think $ 23. 6 billion is what he has invested in
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: pro teams.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: That's all his pro team investment. Which I know that's
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: cash and checks.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I get it. You know, once you get to a multi-billionaire,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I don't even know how you can't.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Even stop and count it. I watched the opening of
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the Premier League. Arsenal, who won the Premier League last year,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: And they were discussing, okay, who's going to challenge Arsenal?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: And they were like, I don't know if anybody is.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe Chelsea is what they said. So basically they talk
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: about them like we talked about the Dodgers.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: It's about to be a Premier League dynasty. Talk about
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: the Rams. It had been forever since Arsenal had won
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: a Premier League.
• 24:01
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, when's the last time we talked about an
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: NFL team like people are talking about the Rams?
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I hate it. No, I know you do.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: But I literally saw on that third TV, one of
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: the ESPN talking head shows the other day, is this
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: the greatest NFL defense of all time? And all I
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: can think about is Lance looking at that going, gosh.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, my gosh. I mean, at least let's get
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: to November.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: You know, if they're holding opponents to, you know, 11
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: points a game and we're in November and they've got
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: one loss, then you can start to discuss it. I've
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: never understood this in, like, people that talk about NFL schedules,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: which we do.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Like, you don't know who's going to be good one
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: year to the next. All NFL schedules are tough.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Eric McLean joins the show coming up at 945. Before
• 24:35
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• 25:55
  Speaker 4: we all have the same categories, different answer. Week one
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: storylines for me. Bama fans, do you remember the name
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Richard Young?
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: I do.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Had a big recruit that came to Alabama, never could
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: get carries. running back for Colorado as they come play
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. If Colorado wins, it likely will be on
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the back of Richard Young. Watch for him to burst
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: out this weekend, or bust out, however we want to
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: say that. Surprise that will surprise you this weekend. UCLA-Cal
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: is an entertaining game. I think one and a half
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: is the point spread on that one at Hard Rock Betts.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Nico and UCLA with a big road win at Cal.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Look for Nico to look like the quarterback he was
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: that led Tennessee to the playoffs.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Boy, a lot of expectation for Bob Chesney.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: He is.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, people are almost doing, not to the Indiana level,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: but hey, look what he did at JMU. Got him
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: to a playoff last year, bringing JMU players over. So
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Nico's going to have more talent around him. That win
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: total six and a half for UCLA. That seems a
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: little ambitious, but we'll see.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Biggest disappointment this weekend. I think it'll be Michigan for
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: game one. People will be questioning Michigan because, Unfortunately, they've
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: got a sneaky good team. They're playing in Western Michigan.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: It's not going to be the pushover people think it's.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Going to be. No, I mean, they are your MAAC
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: favorites right now.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Look, you're catching 27.5 points in this spot for the Broncos.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: And what Lance Taylor wants to do, not this one,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: the other one, the guy that will be ultimately, I believe,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: a star. I think you guys are big fans of
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Lance Taylor, too, the way he's building a program. But
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: he wants his boys in that state to be able
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: to play with Michigan. And this is a moment for them. And,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: you know, I could see this go that way where we're,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: you know, in the third quarter and it's a one-possession
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: game and Michigan ends up winning the game by double digits.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: But Michigan, you know, year one with Kyle Winningham, although
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: there's a big upgrade at coach, how.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Much talent do they have right there?
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And I think it'll be like, oh, man, look how
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Michigan and Western Michigan play a tougher game than they
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: were expecting. So people will be talking about that coming
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: out of the weekend. And then Kentucky's offense in Lexington
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: will be a storyline coming out. Look how much better
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Will Stein has Kentucky's offense.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: C.J.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Baxter running back there, former Texas running back, running back
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: at Kentucky. I know that's opposite of the upset alert
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: from our buddy Forrester there, but Kentucky's offense looking good
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: against Youngtown State. Those are some of my storylines for
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: week one.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: What about you, Lance?
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: Hi.
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: Hi.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Because one of my worst bowl predictions last year was
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Makai Hughes leading the nation and rushing for Oregon.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: So we're going back to that well.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: After two seasons with Willie Fritz at Houston, this guy
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: had over 2,700 rushing yards, had 22 touchdowns, averaged 5.3
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: yards per carry. Now he is back reunited with his
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: former head coach at Houston. I think Makai Hughes is
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: going to have a massive game this weekend against Oregon State.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Fritz knows how to use him. He does.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: And, you know, he only got 17 carries last year
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: for the Oregon Ducks. Was in the doghouse of Dan
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Lanning all year long. So watch for Makai Hughes to
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: have a major, major bust out. My surprise, Oklahoma State. Look,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: this team is 1-20 in their last 21 games. They
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: have been awful. The last game Mike Gundy coached was
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: a 16-9 loss last year to Tulsa. This is a
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: revenge game, although Eric Morse wasn't on that sideline. They
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: want to come out running the football with Caleb Hawkins. Obviously,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Mestermaker is going to have a big game through the air,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: but you've got eight starters coming from the number one
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: offense in North Texas last year.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Immediately, Oklahoma will be better offensively.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: My biggest disappointment is going to be Memphis coming back home.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: Oh, no.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Not in the 9-0-1. I think Memphis is going to
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: lose this game. I really do. They're going to lose
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: this game to Butch Jones? I think Arkansas State will
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: win this game outright.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Scott is going to be devastated. That's his guy, Charles. Scott,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: can you imagine your guy getting outcoached by Butch Jones?
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Quote me, belt to ass this weekend.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, this is going to go hand-in-hand because after Memphis, well,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: before Memphis loses, my storyline of the weekend is going
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: to be how dominant Oregon's defense is. We know Dante
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Moore is going to be a great quarterback. We really
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: don't know who he's throwing the football to on a
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: consistent basis. But that defense with eight returning starters under
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Dan Lanning, I think they go out. I wouldn't be
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: shocked if they shut Boise State out.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: How about that? Oh, wow. I think that will be
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: the storyline.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: And once that happens, then I think Memphis fans are
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: going to look, damn, Boise just got shut out by Oregon.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: We're going to open this season 3-0. After we take
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: care of Arkansas State, we've already beaten UNLV. We're going
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: to go out to Boise. We're going to win that game.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: We're going undefeated this year. We're your group six rep. Oh,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: not so fast.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Not so fast, my friend. Ducks, D. Melt to.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Ass we'll see on the tigers i like charles huff
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: i'm not pulling against the guy i'm just saying this
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: is a bad spot for memphis based on last weekend
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: and what's going on next.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Weekend god's lived in memphis almost as long as charles
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: huff has that's right the 901 baby that's our home
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: can you imagine.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: A man say man i'm bringing this up on.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: The show yesterday like you know our bracket payoffs I mean,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: they're okay sometimes.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: We've kind of run out of ideas.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: There's some great ideas out there, and I saw over
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: the weekend a dude lost his fantasy league, and he
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: had to go get $ 1, 001 bills.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Put them in a clear backpack, and he had to
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: walk the streets of Memphis for two hours.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Handing them out? No. Risking his ass. You had to
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: have $ 1, 000 at the end, too. That tells you about
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: the 904.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I saw on my algorithm this morning the– Instead of
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: drawing for a fantasy football draft order, they had everybody
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: in the league run a 40-yard dash, and if you
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: were the fastest, you got the first.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Pick down to the last pick. Oh, so they did
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: an order of finish? Yeah. God, you know there's that
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: one fat guy that's like, son of a bitch. I'll
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: just pick last. I don't want to run.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: The most athletic guy was like, he was like, I
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: really want the swing where I picked last and the first,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: first and the second. So he ran it in 11 seconds.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: He tanked it. 11 seconds. He tanked it. I'll tell you,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the best was... He was drinking a beer. He was
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: doing it.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: One loser had to go to a sperm bank, donate sperm,
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: and he had to circle, you can contact me at 18.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: That's the one I was about to bring up. That's incredible.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I have no idea if it's real or not, but
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: that's terrible. Yeah, that is awful. You're dealing with people's
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: lives at that point. You're just counting the years.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: But it does remind me of the office where Michael
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: and Jan.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Gets artificial insemination. And Kevin's like, was it the sperm
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: bank behind the jellies? Because I donate there. And then
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: you cut to Jan's face and she's like.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: That's so good. That show was so fun.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Was it the sperm bank behind the jellies?
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Because I donate there. That's my bank. Okay, Brownie, what
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: do you have?
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: My player is going to be Cam Colvin. That is
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: going to be one of the stories coming out of
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: week one. You know what I love about your youngest daughter?
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: What?
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: That she would call you out for the playoff. She's like, Dad,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: stop trying to be too cool. Yeah, she's like that.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: So Cam Coleman's going to be the bust out. Yeah,
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Cam Coleman, stock up, Cam Coleman.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Buy all the stock you get right now. That's expected, right?
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Well, but I think they're going to make a statement.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: I think it is going to be all Cam. I mean,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Texas is... Texas State's a huge underdog. I think Sark
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: would love to have a Heisman winner, too.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, and I think he would love to have
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: two in the running.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: The crazy for Cam Coleman, I saw him being interviewed
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: this week, And he was being asked, what can slow
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you down this year? And he continues to say the
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: traffic in Austin.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: It's horrible. He goes, it gets worse every day.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: You got to come through school traffic here. My surprise
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: is going to be Faison Brandon.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Again, I'm not saying he's going to have a great year,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: but I think in this first start against a badly
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: overmatched opponent that Tennessee is playing, Furman, I think Josh
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Heupel is going to try to build some confidence in
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: this kid and get this offense flowing in. So I
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: think If you can't unleash him against Furman, who are
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: you going to unleash him against, right?
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: Hey, just to stick with a running gag on the
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: show here.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: What did I misspell?
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: Faison, he spells it with a Z.
• 33:58
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: How about that? Faison.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: You spelled it like the actor Donald Faison.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Okay. Boy, they get on your ass for your spelling.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: They should. I'm a terrible speller.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Faison with a Z, Brandon. My disappointment is going to
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: be Ole Miss offense. Now, are they going to lose
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: the game to Louisville? I am not saying that, but
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: I think Louisville is a quality opponent, and I just
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: don't think it's going to look as crisp as it did.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: The key is going to be can they stop that
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: two-headed monster running attack from Louisville and what Jim– Brom
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: can put together.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: As a game plan.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, Isaac Brown led the FBS in yards per
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: carry 8.8 last year.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: So they do have explosive running backs.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: But I think it's going to be on the offensive
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: side where you're like, maybe they miss Lane a little bit.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Maybe they miss Charlie Weiss Jr.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: A little bit.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: And then my storyline, unfortunately, and I don't want this storyline,
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: but I think it's going to be there how few
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: close games are going to get week one. I think
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: at the end, a lot of people are going to
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: be like, week one just did not give us many
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: close games i.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Hope i'm wrong well i'm gonna ask lance the great
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: storylines from everybody there lance i want to ask you
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: because this is one of those weekends if i was
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: going to go to hard rock bets and and place
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: the wagers how do you how do you handle because
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: i've got a stat for you here kirby smart has
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: never in his whole time at georgia he has never
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: covered A 40-plus.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Point point spread. I saw that.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: In his time at Georgia. He's never done that. And
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: I think it's like 15-1-1. Like he said, 17 chances,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: only one of them has pushed. Or it's 0-15-1, I
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: should say. 16 chances, only one of them has pushed.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: It's a big number.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm looking at Georgia this weekend, and they're
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: 46-and-a-half point favorites at home to Tennessee State. Do you
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: just stay away from those games?
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Well, that's one of those. How do you play that?
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, they're putting this on the board, but
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be limited on numbers you
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: can play in that because– That is not a legit
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: FBS opponent. But there are other games out there. I mean,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: you look at the first game to kick off the day.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Indiana is 40 right now over North Texas.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: So I had from a. From a guy who looks
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: at point spreads and stuff, if I was going to
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: go to hard rock bets, how do you handle that?
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: I look at what coaches typically do, and you look
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: at Indiana last year. 16-0, eight wins by 35-plus. I
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: think he's going to try to build confidence with Josh Huber,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: these new running backs. Turbo Richard coming in from Boston College.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I think Kirk Cignetti is going to do Cignetti things, unfortunately,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: for Neil Brown. Now on the other sideline for North Texas,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to run it up. I mean,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I lay the 40. It depends on the circumstance.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: So it's almost coach's reputation, and with a new quarterback,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: they may want more seed time so the starters play
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: a little longer?
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the thing that you don't know on the
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: other side is, like, with everything that Neil Brown's had
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: to throw together in year one, with everybody leaving that
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: North Texas mean green and going to Oklahoma State, like,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: how did they come together on the other side? You know,
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: they could be better than advertised.
• 36:46
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: So a lot of people in the NIL era and
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: transfer portal, they like to take the points, especially a
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: big number like that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: South Carolina, 36 and a half against Kent State.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Iowa's a 31-and-a-half point favorite. I mean, there are a
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: lot of big numbers out there. Miami, 24-and-a-half on the
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: road at Stanford.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: You know, what Stanford team are you going to get?
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: The first half, Stanford team, I mean, it was Hawaii,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: but they looked good.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that team could play under the number of 24-and-a-half.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: But the second half, Stanford team disappeared until they got
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: that fumble.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Miami looks like they could score at will on the
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Stanford team.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Hey, it's game day tomorrow. We've got games tomorrow night
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: in college football. as we kick off week one, football
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and then one day off,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: and then the NFL starts on Wednesday with games on Wednesday, Thursday,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: and then we're back into the college for week two.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: It's off and rolling. We are, too.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: We talk to the ACC Network and Clemson star Eric
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: McLean when we come back on the next round, presented
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• 37:45
  Speaker 1: McLean joins us in a second. By the way, bad
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: news in basketball when we get to that part of
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: the year. Michigan lost a five-star freshman superstar Brandon McCoy
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: this week. Blows out an ACL he's done for the year.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: So a big blow for defending national champs Michigan with
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: a new coaching staff. So should be fun to watch
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: them try to do it after Dusty May, but that
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: injury is not going to help as they do that.
• 38:11
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• 39:05
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• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Man, did you see Tennessee yesterday? They unveiled their jersey patch.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: First Horizon Bank. $ 12 million a year, a 10-year $ 120
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: million deal from First Horizon Bank. And that just blows
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: the Big 12 monster energy for the whole league out of.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: The water, man. Well, I tell you, I don't run
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: a bank, but I just wonder how many new accounts
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: have to open.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: For $ 12 million a year to make sense.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's a lot.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Or if Cody Campbell shifts some dollars over, right? But
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: he's in Tennessee, so you'd want to.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Your version of Jim Haslam. You want Haslam and Pilot?
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, what if Haslam went to First Horizon and said,
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: I'll move all my banking here if you'll do the patch?
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: They would do the patch. They would do the patch
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: in a heartbeat.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: More likely it was, hey, all of our money is
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: already here. You need to do the patch or I'm
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: going to move all my money out somewhere else.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: It's not an obnoxiously large patch. I'll say that.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: It blends in with the uniform as well.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: All right, let's talk a little Clemson and ACC. Eric McLean,
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: you see him on the ACC Network every single week
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: with a lot of our friends there. Taylor Tannenbaum, Coach Rick,
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: all the people there.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Jimbo. Jimbo! Jimbo's there now. What is up, Eric? Welcome in.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: How are you today?
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: I'm living the dream. We are here. It is the
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: real game week. And we're ready to freaking get kicked off, brother.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Listen, are you a proud American, man? I'm going to
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: ask you, are you a proud American?
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: These colors don't run, baby. I love it.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Let's start with your alma mater, the place you fought
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: and bled and sweated with Clemson, and they are on
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: the road at LSU. We've talked about it a lot
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: in the offseason. I like Clemson in this spot because
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: all the focus is on LSU, all the stories on LSU.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Marty Smith reporting today, highest credential volume with media and
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: celebrities that they've ever had at Tiger Stadium. And who's
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: laying in the weeds right there but little old Clemson.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: Little Clemson. That's where they are. Yeah, and it's going
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: to be a fun matchup, man. Listen, I wish it
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: was a ranked-on-ranked game. Wish it had a little bit
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: more juice from that aspect. But it's as big as
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: it gets. Game day's there. All the little fun shows
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: that ESPN has added in the last couple of months
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: are going to be there. As you just mentioned, the credentials.
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: It's going to be nuts. Thanks for telling me that.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: I didn't know what I'd be walking into today. Once
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: I eventually get there, but just seeing this matchup, right.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: Kind of old school versus new school way of thinking,
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: you know, Lane Kiffin comes in and all the drama
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: that comes with that bringing about 20, 30 new guys.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: And then you've got Dabo who's just steady Eddie and
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: does things, you know, his way and the way that
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: he thinks is best for Clemson. And they did go
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: to the portal, which is nice, but primarily it's homegrown
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: high school guys. And in a way of thinking there's
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: matchups galore, everywhere you look of NFL talent, of superstar talent.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: I know Coach Sweeney said there's a lot of nobodies
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: on this team, but he's just playing that game. There
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: are stars all over this Clemson depth chart.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Dabo is obviously a polarizing guy, but two national championships,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: nine ACC championships. We had an intern last year that
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: was a Clemson grad, and she was like, I'm ready
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: for Dabo to be done.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: And you know there is I.
• 42:18
  Speaker 11: Know what's her name fire her ass fire her ass
• 42:22
  Speaker 11: she was an intern we can't fire interns it's free
• 42:24
  Speaker 11: labor but coming off of seven and six like what
• 42:27
  Speaker 11: is the expectation you mentioned unranked I mean it's just
• 42:30
  Speaker 11: amazing to see where Dabo has had this program and
• 42:33
  Speaker 11: they're unranked going into the season.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: But a realistic expectation for Clemson when you look at
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: the schedule it's it's it's a very doable schedule.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah no no no question um you know I think
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: it's uh you know, unranked by, you know, a bunch
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: of media people that can't wait to get Dabo out. Like,
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: that's the funny thing. I mean, they were ranked in
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: the coaches poll. They're ranked in FPI. They're ranked in
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: everything else that uses metrics and logic, not just opinions
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: of how they want to get somebody gone. But, you know,
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: the expectation is still to compete for championships. I mean,
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: that just doesn't change. These guys were just winning an
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: ACC championship just in the college football playoff two years ago.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: And there's no getting around. There's no question. That was
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: one of the most disappointing seasons ever. four Clemson and
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: four Coach Dabo Sweeney with all the talent that they had,
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: nine guys drafted, a handful of first-rounders. It's unacceptable. You
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: cannot do that. You have to be able to do better,
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: and I'm sure there's a ton of reasons why that
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: kind of happened here, but the most important part is
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: you learn from it and you move on from it,
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: and now you get it kind of going here. I
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: mentioned the talent that's on this team. I would take
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: this wide receiver core against anybody in the country. I
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: look at Will Held, the best defensive end in the conference.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: Sammy Brown, I think, the best linebacker in the country.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: And then Ashton Hampton, probably going to end up being
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: a first-round draft pick. There are stars throughout this team,
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: and there is no excuse that these guys shouldn't win
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: nine-plus games.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: After spanking Alabama in 2018, and you changed quarterbacks after
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Trevor leaves and all of that, has the quarterback play
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: lived up to what you had before when you were
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: a national championship contender? And where does Vazina... fit in
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: with all of that? How good of a quarterback can
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: he be this year?
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think it's fairly obvious that it hasn't.
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, you see DJU and the things that he did.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: Funny enough, he actually won a ton. I mean, that
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: guy only lost, I think, four or five games at Clemson.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: It just happened to be very impactful games that meant
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: a lot. But when you see what he was able
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: to do, not quite get the offense to where it
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: needed to be, you saw the lack of success that
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: he had obviously at Florida State as well, one of
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: their worst seasons, actually their worst season ever. And then
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Cade and the ups and downs of Cade, you know,
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: gets in, wins an ACC championship as a true freshman,
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: has a abysmal turnover year as a sophomore, junior year,
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: gets right back, wins an ACC championship, plays a heck
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: of a game against Texas at Texas in a college
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: football playoff game, and then just kind of falls flat
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: and regresses a little bit. as they go into their
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: senior year and the expectation that was placed upon him.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: So I don't think there's any question from the first
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: overall pick, Trevor Lawrence, one of the greatest prospects ever.
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: It has been a little bit downhill from there. And
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: Vazina is certainly not in that category of greatest of
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: all time, but he's got a chip on his shoulder.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: He's an older guy that believes in this program. And
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: I think what's going to be really interesting to see, guys,
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: is how much does Culture and camaraderie matter because all
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: that I have heard coming out of this camp, coming
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: out of that locker room, is that he has galvanized
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: this team. He has brought them together that maybe the
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: previous quarterback wasn't able to do. What does that equate to?
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: Does that equate to a bunch of wins? Does that
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: equate to a bunch of stats and points? We will see.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: But I know that that trust is certainly there from
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: this team and from his fellow teammates.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Eric McLean with us on the show. You can follow
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: him on social media at Eric McLean. You'll see him
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: on the ACC Network all season long. Let's talk about
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: the rest.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Of the ACC.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: They're in Miami as obviously a team everyone is talking about,
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: not just as an ACC contender, but as a national
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: championship contender. You know, this is just reality. And then
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: these are just talking heads talking. But we've mentioned on
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: this show several times that if there weren't that last
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: minute swap and Miami got in the playoffs last year,
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: Mario Cristobal might be on some of these hot seat discussions.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: It's crazy how that flip for him, just that one
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: postseason run, in a lot of ways, flipped a lot
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: of people's entire image about that program right now and
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: about Mario Cristobal.
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: Well, I think it was fascinating that we were having
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: those conversations. I thought Miami should have. comfortably been in,
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: especially when you see some other teams ahead of them
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: that not only they played and beat, but some other
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: teams that got manhandled in this playoff as well and
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: had an early exit. So when you look at this team,
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: how they're constructed, man, I mean, it's as good as
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: it gets. It's a well-oiled machine that is not slowing
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: down from NIL, from transfer portal, from high school recruiting.
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: It is just star after star, talented guy after talented guy.
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, they have like five or six, five stars
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: committed in this next incoming class. I mean, that's insane
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: when you look at the production that Miami is going
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: to continue to bring in. They built it from the
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: inside out, you know, had three first rounders on the
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: line of scrimmage a year ago, look to have two
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: or three first rounders on this team as well in
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: this next upcoming draft here. So I'm pretty high on
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: Miami as well. I think they are good enough to
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: win a national championship. I actually think they're the best
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: team in the country. And that's going to be on
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: display Friday night. I don't think there's any easing into
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: the season. I don't think there's any, well, we got
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: to get our quarterback to figure this out. I think
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: Miami hits the ground running in a big way at
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: Stanford Friday night.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: So Tony Elliott, 11 wins in his first three seasons,
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: 11 wins last year.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I've been on them all summer, though, Eric.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I have said this Virginia team is going to be
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: dangerous because of what they've got up front.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: And you look– you play the position.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: You look at how much experience is on that offensive
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: line and how they push NC State around.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: First, your take on Virginia, how good can they be?
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Can they be that team that possibly plays Miami or
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Clemson for an ACC championship? And on the other side,
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: as bad as C.J. Bailey was– They've got one of
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: these manageable schedules. Do you see them bouncing back, NC State?
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: So just on Virginia, yeah, man, I'm with you. I
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: think they're going to be good. And it was one
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: of those things we just kind of needed to see
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: Perbula and what he was going to bring to the team.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: You kind of thought, but coming back from an injury
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: and a guy's moved around a bunch, you just didn't know, okay,
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: is he going to be able to execute and be
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: his best version of himself. Check the box in the
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: first game. Yes, we saw that. If he can do
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: that every game or something close to it, Virginia is
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: going to be very good. The quarterback run is the
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: greatest equalizer, right? It gets you going. It gets you
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: off balance, throws a number game at you that you're
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: not used to, has that extra blocking, has that extra blocker,
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: and it changes angles for the defense that you're not
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: typically used to because where the ball is being ran from.
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: So You add in an offensive line with two seventh-year guys,
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: two sixth-year guys, and a fifth-year guy. yeah, those boys
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: are a little bit more mature than most people in
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: college football. They've started a lot of games, 135 games
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: combined from those five guys, and they're good. I mean,
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: they're really good players. I tell you the piece that
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: is maybe still the jury's a little bit out. I
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: need to see more before I make some big massive
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: proclamation is this secondary might be elite. NC State could
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: not get open. NC State was running all kinds of concepts,
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: and there were no answers because of what that secondary provided,
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: because how sticky and anticipating throws the defense was on
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: making plays. Again, I need to see more before I
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: sit here and say that's one of the best secondaries
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: in the ACC, but a very good start and a
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: very stingy start for this Virginia team and Virginia defense.
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: So sure, absolutely think that they can go as far
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: as they want to in this conference and in this
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: potential playoff run that they hope to have. Now on
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: the NC State side, I like the way you phrased it,
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: very favorable schedule. Very much so something that, okay, we
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: had a wake-up call, didn't look like what we want
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: it to look like. How do we get it back?
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: How do we get it going? Our quarterback had his
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: worst game that he's ever had in this uniform. Was
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: that because guys couldn't get open? Was that a little
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: bit reading press clippings and Cam Newton saying I'm a
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: top five quarterback and Eric McLean giving me all these flowers? Maybe.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: We'll see. But if you can get back and go
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: to work, do your thing, I still like this team.
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: I still love C.J. Bailey and think that he's a
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: heck of a player. I was concerned with the defense, though.
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: We'll see if Virginia is just that good and this
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: defense had a bad day. or if that's going to
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: be more of the same, unfortunately, for the NC State defense.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I know Taylor Tannenbaum would kick me in the knee
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: for the way I'm going to phrase this, but in
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: the South, the perception always is the ACC is a
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: little bit of a little brother to the SEC, right?
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: But last year, what Miami did in the playoffs to
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: the SEC, and now you've got an opportunity with Louisville
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss this weekend. How important are those ACC-SEC matchups
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: to the conference perception right now in college football?
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and listen, it is what it is, right?
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: You've got to win it on the field, and then
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: those narratives over time can start to change. There's a
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: reason that it is that way. The ACC had the
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: leg up a year ago over the SEC. We'll see
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: if that continues in regards to when these teams play.
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: But you're right. That's one of the things that I
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: think has held this conference back for the last couple
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: of years from taking that next step and obviously having
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: more teams in the prominent rankings is, You see only
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: three ACC teams ranked in the preseason AP poll there.
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: You have to win them. It's vital for Colorado and
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: Georgia Tech, for Clemson LSU, for, as you mentioned, Louisville
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: and Ole Miss. Go win them and you start to
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: change things. You start to change that narrative. Certainly Miami
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: was able to do that a year ago for this conference.
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: 5-0 against the SEC. Had a very difficult playoff run
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: and just marched straight to their home field for a
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: national championship appearance. more of that is certainly what this
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: conference needs.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: Eric, I will say this as you go. Scott Forrester,
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: our director of video and content and many, many, many,
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: many other things, says you have the cleanest Zoom setup.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: Did you say, Scott, it's the cleanest you've ever seen?
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying?
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: It is definitely among the best looking Zoom shots we've
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: ever had.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: There you go. Well done by you. Thank you.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: It's it's just it's awesome we.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: We do about man we've done about a thousand of
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  Speaker 4: these so you rank very very high in a large group.
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: That means a lot let me give you some inside
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  Speaker 5: we built this room out so that that means a lot.
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  Speaker 4: That's great that is really cool yeah great well done
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  Speaker 4: well done it looks good all right go follow eric
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  Speaker 4: on twitter if you like his twitter background or his
• 53:06
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• 53:08
  Speaker 4: mclean at eric mclean See him on the ACC Network
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: and on Sirius XM Radio. Eric, thank you very much
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: for the time, man. We appreciate it.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: USA.
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: Appreciate you guys so much.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Great to see you. USA. USA. USA. See you, Eric.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Eric McLean with us on the show. Like him. Love
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: that setup, too. Scott's right. It's a good background.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Hey, when we come back, you know, we joke with
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: our friends from ESPN all the time about all these
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: talk shows in the morning, first take and get up
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: and all that. It's cowboys, cowboys, cowboys, cowboys. They have
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: gotten into a rut about Alabama and DeBoer, Alabama and DeBoer.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that when we come back and how
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: there's probably a misconception about DeBoer's stability in Tuscaloosa. We'll
• 53:52
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• 53:54
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