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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 1-23-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 3: then game winner early in overtime, and as he skated
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Speaker 3: over to celebrate with his teammates, just tosses the twig up.
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Speaker 2: Over the glass.
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Speaker 2: Would love to hear the story.
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Speaker 3: AFC Championship Game, NFC Championship Game this weekend, the pole
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Speaker 3: questions are going up about who you think is actually
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Speaker 3: going to win New England, Denver, La Seattle now the
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Speaker 3: Denver one. This was already going to be the most
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Speaker 3: interesting for our home market because of all the utes
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Speaker 3: involved in that game, because they are some people's minds,
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Speaker 3: the de facto home team of Salt Lake City until
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Speaker 3: we get our own NFL team, which we probably never.
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Speaker 2: Will, but I hope we do.
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Speaker 3: At one point, they were geographically the closest NFL team
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Speaker 3: to Salt Lake City. Now it's the Raiders, although I
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Speaker 3: don't know how much closer Denver was than Oakland when
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Speaker 3: the Raiders were in Oakland. Either got to do a
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Speaker 3: little research on that, But in any case, Denver was
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Speaker 3: already going to be the team that we probably talked
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Speaker 3: about a lot. The narrative that has developed around the
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Speaker 3: situation Denver finds itself in is so fascinating to me,
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Speaker 3: because they're going to be games next year with Utah
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Speaker 3: Football where we're like, yeah, the backup quarterback is going
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Speaker 3: to have to start this one, and every one of
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Speaker 3: us is gonna be like, Okay, cool, that's fine. We've
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Speaker 3: seen what that looks like. That's Burt Ficklin. I guess
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Speaker 3: I'm making some assumptions that Devin Dan Pierre is going
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Speaker 3: to be the starter again. I believe he will be
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Speaker 3: the starter again, but I guess I'm making of some
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Speaker 3: assumptions that his growth outpaces Berd Fickland's growth. In any case,
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Speaker 3: when QB two has to take snaps or start for
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Speaker 3: the University of Utah next fall, we're all gonna feel
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Speaker 3: okay with it. We're all gonna talk about how, you know,
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Speaker 3: the offense might look a little bit different, but there's
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Speaker 3: some things that could be better with QB two in there.
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Speaker 3: That is not a conversation you typically have when we're
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Speaker 3: talking about the NFL. In the National Football League, there
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Speaker 3: are twelve teams that don't even have a QB one,
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Speaker 3: much less a QB two that can win them football games.
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Speaker 2: And nobody.
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Speaker 3: Has what we're getting from the Denver Broncos in an
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Speaker 3: AFC Championship weekend.
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Speaker 2: No less, nobody.
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Speaker 3: Has a situation in NFL football where they're like, oh,
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Speaker 3: your starter went out on a fluke play at the
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Speaker 3: very very end of the divisional round, a devastating season ending,
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, how are we gonna overcome this type moment? Nope, Instead,
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Speaker 3: people are just like, yeah, yeah, Jared Stidham s didty.
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Speaker 3: We love him. He's gonna be able to do this.
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Speaker 3: He's fine, he's great. The conversation about his abilities and
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Speaker 3: his confidence and the team's belief in him and the
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Speaker 3: coaches belief in him is one of the more fascinating
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Speaker 3: things we've seen in NFL playoff football in recent memory.
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Speaker 3: Jared Stidham is six three two and fifteen pounds. He's
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Speaker 3: coming up on his thirtieth birthday this August. He's twenty
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Speaker 3: nine years old. He has never really been a full
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Speaker 3: time bona fide I can win you a bunch of
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Speaker 3: football games starter in the NFL. He did not play
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Speaker 3: at all in the twenty twenty one season. He did
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Speaker 3: not play at all. Yeah, okay, the twenty twenty one
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Speaker 3: season was young one. He didn't play. He played three
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Speaker 3: games in twenty twenty three, three games in twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 3: three games in twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 2: He completed.
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Speaker 3: In the last three seasons of NFL football, he completed
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Speaker 3: a grand total of forty passes. And guess how many
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Speaker 3: of those were in twenty twenty five. You don't have
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Speaker 3: a guess for me. The answer is zero. Guess how
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Speaker 3: many he completed in twenty twenty four NFL passes. I
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Speaker 3: told you the three year total is forty. In twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty four, he completed zero pow In twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 3: he was forty of sixty six over three games, four
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Speaker 3: hundred and ninety six yards, seven and a half yard average,
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Speaker 3: two touchdowns, one interception along of fifty four He was
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Speaker 3: also sacked seven times in those three games. Playing for
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Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos in twenty twenty three, you see what
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Speaker 3: I did. This is me saying he got forty completions
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Speaker 3: over the last three years.
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Speaker 2: Is very similar to what everyone was.
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Speaker 3: Talking about with Cam Calhoun and the transfer portal this year,
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Speaker 3: where they gave a bunch of stats and said over
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Speaker 3: the last two seasons. All they did was give his
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Speaker 3: Utah stats and ignore the fact that he didn't compile
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Speaker 3: anything at Alabama and said, this guy's done this the
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Speaker 3: last two seasons. That's what I just did with Jared Stidham.
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Speaker 3: Forty completions on sixty six attempts two years ago, two
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Speaker 3: seasons ago, he's thrown no passes. Not did he not
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Speaker 3: only did he not complete any passes In twenty twenty
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Speaker 3: four and twenty twenty five, he.
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Speaker 2: Didn't throw any.
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Speaker 3: And the fact that there are people whose jobs it
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Speaker 3: is to tell you what's gonna happen in NFL football games,
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Speaker 3: how things are gonna happen in NFL football games, the
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Speaker 3: fact that there are more than one individual out there
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Speaker 3: going yeah, uh, I think that Jared.
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Speaker 2: Stidham is gonna be just fine.
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Speaker 3: I'm just as confident in the Broncos with Jared Stidham
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Speaker 3: as with bow Knicks. Is one of the biggest insults
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Speaker 3: I've ever seen to Bo Knicks. What are you talking about?
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Speaker 3: Jared Stidham is gonna be equal to or some even
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Speaker 3: rough approximation of bow Knicks. The man hasn't thrown a
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Speaker 3: pass in two seasons in live action twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 3: zero of zero twenty twenty five, he only played in
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Speaker 3: one game. He threw zero passes, he completed zero passes.
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Speaker 3: He ran the ball one time for negative one yards.
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Speaker 3: And look, it doesn't mean he's a bad football player.
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Speaker 3: Being on an NFL roster means that you are dang
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Speaker 3: good and being the backup for anyone in the NFL
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Speaker 3: at the quarterback position is one of the best jobs
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Speaker 3: you can get in America. For one rush in one
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Speaker 3: game for negative one yards so far. I'll give you
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Speaker 3: a dollar, James, if you can tell me how much
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Speaker 3: you think Jared Stidham is making from the Denver Broncos
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Speaker 3: this year, having completed zero passes so far and rushed
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Speaker 3: the ball one time for negative one yards in the
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five season.
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Speaker 4: You're taking Jared Sidham's dollar and giving it to me.
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Speaker 4: How much do you think.
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Speaker 3: He is being paid to be the backup up quarterback
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Speaker 3: for the Denver Broncos, knowing that his usage so far
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Speaker 3: is zero passes completed on zero attempts, one rushing attempt
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Speaker 3: for negative one yards. What do you think that means
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Speaker 3: he's being paid in Denver?
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Speaker 5: Ah?
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Speaker 4: Probably it's crazy, but probably over a million, probably like
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Speaker 4: one point two million.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but you're well off.
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Speaker 3: Jared Stidham is currently on a twelve million dollar contract
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Speaker 3: over two years. He's making six million dollars Denver Broncos.
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Speaker 4: I was thinking per year. That's well, that's way more
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Speaker 4: per year than I thought. Yeah, Denvers, Denver Broncos. Hey, guys,
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Speaker 4: here's the thing.
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Speaker 3: I I can get you one one rush for negative
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Speaker 3: one yards. I can do that for you. I promise
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Speaker 3: you if you want to pay me six million dollars.
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Speaker 2: And I get it. I'm being reductive here.
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Speaker 3: I'm probably coming off as trashing a guy who doesn't
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Speaker 3: deserve to be trashed. But it is absolutely bananas that
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Speaker 3: the conversation around this particular game is not swaying more
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Speaker 3: heavily in New England's favor They're four and a half
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Speaker 3: point favorites the Patriots. It's wildly dismissive of the contribution
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Speaker 3: that bo Nicks has had to Denver's season and to
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Speaker 3: their turnaround in general. It is too much confidence in
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Speaker 3: Sean Payton's ability to win with backup quarterbacks. It's too
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Speaker 3: much of a statement towards Yeah, we think, we think
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Speaker 3: that he's He's just a much better coach right now
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Speaker 3: than Mike Rabel. Weirdly enough, I'm probably rooting for Denver,
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Speaker 3: maybe for the first time in my life, because the
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Speaker 3: lesser of two evils here, I think, is a team
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Speaker 3: with a bunch of former uta on it. But it
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Speaker 3: makes little to no sense for me that there's not
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Speaker 3: even mild panic around the fact that your backup quarterback
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Speaker 3: has to go win you the AFC Championship game.
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Speaker 4: That's that's gotta be Sean Payton. A couple of things
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Speaker 4: with Sean Payton. One, supreme confidence in his coaching abilities
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Speaker 4: and particularly in his ability to coach quarterbacks. And he's
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Speaker 4: earned that right. Two, trying to fabricate confident confidence for
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Speaker 4: his team. Right, and his quarterback who, like you said,
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Speaker 4: has had barely any experience. But here's the other thing
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Speaker 4: about it with Jared Sidham, no experience, hasn't thrown a
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Speaker 4: pass and how long he said?
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Speaker 3: Two years?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: He's also a guy who's been so highly desired by
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Speaker 4: his former teams that he has been paid not quite
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Speaker 4: six million a year, but he's been paid way more
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Speaker 4: than any other than than most backup quarterbacks, but has
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Speaker 4: never been used like he was very well thought of
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Speaker 4: it New England with by Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels
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Speaker 4: when McDaniels was the the coordinator there before this stint,
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Speaker 4: and then he and then McDaniels thought of him, still
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Speaker 4: thought of him so highly that he wanted him to
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Speaker 4: he brought him with him to Vegas, signed him as
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Speaker 4: a free agent to be the backup quarterback to a
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Speaker 4: good backup quarterback free agent deal, and then so highly
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Speaker 4: thought of by both coaching staffs that he's been under
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Speaker 4: the Nathaniel Hackett coaching staff and now the Sean Payton
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Speaker 4: coaching staff in Denver, that they've paid him handsomely for
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Speaker 4: a backup quarterback. But he's just if he's It makes
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Speaker 4: you wonder if he's that highly thought of, how come
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Speaker 4: he's never been a starting quarterback anywhere. But it also
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Speaker 4: makes you wonder he's got to have. It makes you
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Speaker 4: think he's got to have some ability. If all of
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Speaker 4: these coaches, it's not just the Patriots guys, every coach
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Speaker 4: that's had him wants him to be, wants him on
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Speaker 4: the team, even paying even to pay him, willing to
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Speaker 4: pay him way more than you need to pay a
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Speaker 4: backup quarterback.
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Speaker 2: And look, maybe I'm I probably am wrong.
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Speaker 3: This could be a situation, all right, Looking at it
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Speaker 3: from the opposite side, this could be a situation where
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Speaker 3: the folks who are actually around him know that all
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Speaker 3: it's gonna take is an opportunity, timing the right fit,
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Speaker 3: good health, et cetera, et cetera. There's a possibility, bet
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Speaker 3: you hear teammates former teammates jumping on first take and
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Speaker 3: going on ESPN radio shows and NFL network and saying,
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Speaker 3: hey man, Because of course, the first question is can
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Speaker 3: they do this with Jared Stidham and a lot of
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Speaker 3: people players, players that know him, college teammates, stuff like that,
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Speaker 3: are just like you.
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Speaker 2: I don't realize.
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Speaker 3: He is a confident dude, doesn't carry himself like a backup,
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Speaker 3: prepares like a starter. If we're gonna link this to
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Speaker 3: Utah football, you go back to the apocrypha stories of
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Speaker 3: Cam Rising when he was running scout team and everybody
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Speaker 3: was just like dude. Because back then, back in those
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Speaker 3: days in the transfer portal, he came from Texas, he
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Speaker 3: had to sit out as a non grad transfer, and
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Speaker 3: you would talk to defensive players who'd be like, man,
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Speaker 3: he might be the best quarterback we have on the roster.
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Speaker 2: He can't play.
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Speaker 3: Right now, but he kills us in scout team, and
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Speaker 3: by the way, that means he's doing it with lesser players.
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Speaker 3: If Jared Stidham is out there taking no reps, because
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Speaker 3: backups get virtually no reps during season NFL practices the
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Speaker 3: time they're all collectively bargained now, Schwartz has told us this,
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Speaker 3: Mike Yamas told us this.
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Speaker 2: There's just not a lot of.
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Speaker 3: Time for once the season begins, anybody except for the
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Speaker 3: starter to begetting reps. So whatever Jared Stinham is doing,
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Speaker 3: he's kind of doing of his own volition, on his
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Speaker 3: own time, throwing on air, stuff like that, probably, but
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Speaker 3: there's still this confidence in his ability.
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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it is one of those cases.
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Speaker 3: Where players around the league, his teammates, people played against him,
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Speaker 3: just like just watch, just wait when he gets his
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Speaker 3: real opportunity.
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Speaker 2: But you go back to what you were just saying.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's thought of highly by these coaches, and
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Speaker 3: Sean Payton is a quarterback guru of sorts. So yeah,
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Speaker 3: I want to keep you around, and we're going to
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Speaker 3: give you the money necessary to keep you around, but
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Speaker 3: I don't want to use you at all. And that's
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Speaker 3: just how it is in the NFL. It's not college football.
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Speaker 3: You're not gonna you don't pull the starters during blowouts. Necessarily,
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Speaker 3: you don't. The quarterback is so protected anyway. Blowouts are
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Speaker 3: so uncommon in NFL football. Jared Stidham's not getting garbage
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Speaker 3: time reps in games. He's not getting reps at all
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Speaker 3: in games. He has not thrown in a game. And
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Speaker 3: if all you're doing is propagandizing and selling a bill
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Speaker 3: of goods to give everyone confidence. Well, it all comes
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Speaker 3: out in the wash when you play. But if you're
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Speaker 3: that confident in Sean Payton's abilities to overcome the loss
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Speaker 3: of a starting quarterback in a conference championship weekend, this
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Speaker 3: is playoff football. It is a very very unique week
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Speaker 3: of conversation We've been listening to surrounding these upcoming NFL
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Speaker 3: playoff games because a lot of people think Seattle and
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Speaker 3: la are very closely matched. A lot of people think
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Speaker 3: that the bow Knicks Drake may matchup that we should
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Speaker 3: have could have potentially we're expecting that's not coming to
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Speaker 3: Fruition was kind of like, okay, changing of the guard here,
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Speaker 3: who's gonna be the next whomever?
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Speaker 2: And instead you get Jared Stidham and.
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Speaker 3: Nobody's blinking about it, and I feel like I'm in
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Speaker 3: crazy town.
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Speaker 4: Well, we we're so prone as sports fans and and
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Speaker 4: unfortunately a lot of sports media commentators in particular, are
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Speaker 4: so prone to if the team has credibility, right, and
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Speaker 4: with the Broncos certainly do, especially now with with Sean
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Speaker 4: Payton and then having a number one overall seed, and
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Speaker 4: their messaging is comes off as confident. We just buy
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Speaker 4: into it, right, And unfortunately, like it wasn't that long
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Speaker 4: ago that people in the media in particular were like, Okay, fine,
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Speaker 4: you feel that way, but I think it's fair to
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Speaker 4: question this like you're doing in the opening segment, but
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Speaker 4: at a national level, not just not just local level,
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Speaker 4: not just here us being externally talking about this, not
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Speaker 4: being in the Denver market, and that helped people have
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Speaker 4: a healthy skepticism over something that we should have a
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Speaker 4: healthy skepticism of.
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Speaker 3: And I don't I don't know that.
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Speaker 4: I think those days have kind of been gone unless
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Speaker 4: it's something like as an organization that is dysfunctional, as
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Speaker 4: like the Jets of the Browns, and we was like
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Speaker 4: we just always question. But with the Broncos, they qualify
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Speaker 4: as one of those where like, hey, they're putting out
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Speaker 4: this message of confidence. So everyone's just like, Okay, fine,
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Speaker 4: I guess I guess we should be confident about Jared Sidam.
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Speaker 4: It's like, no, we probably shouldn't be. Let's just see
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Speaker 4: what happens.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I have thrown as many NFL passes in
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Speaker 3: the last two years that Jared Sidham has. You driving
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Speaker 3: in your car right now, you have the exact same
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Speaker 3: number of passing attempts.
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Speaker 2: In the last two years that Jared Sidham.
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Speaker 4: I have the exact same number of passing attempts in
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Speaker 4: organized football in my life as Jared Sidam has.
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Speaker 3: It's it's an absolutely insane thing where I mean, I'm
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Speaker 3: watching the Pat McAfee show right now, right and on
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Speaker 3: the bottom ticker that scrolls along the seat geek ticker
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Speaker 3: that they have that's just kind of like keeping you
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Speaker 3: a breath, there's a quote about how, hey, man, Jared
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Speaker 3: Sidem's really good from the pocket. How the bleep do
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Speaker 3: you know you haven't seen him.
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Speaker 4: There for two years? Exactly what I'm trying to say.
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Speaker 4: Pat McAfee is one of those national media members who
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Speaker 4: does not who just if it sounds confident, I'm going
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Speaker 4: with it.
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Speaker 2: I love it.
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Speaker 3: I mean I love it and I hate it because
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Speaker 3: if this were my team, right, if the San Francisco
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Speaker 3: forty nine ers had not completely pooped the bed against
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Speaker 3: the Seattle Seahawks and we're in a position here, but
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Speaker 3: they were in that position without Rock Purty and you
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Speaker 3: were using your backup quarterback in the conference championship weekend.
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Speaker 2: I would be like, oh, it's Mac Jones.
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Speaker 3: We saw him play a lot of football this year
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Speaker 3: and he was pretty darn good.
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Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna be fine. But that's not the case.
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Speaker 2: That's not what we're talking about.
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Speaker 3: That if that were the scenario, if Jared Stidham had
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Speaker 3: kept you on playoff pace while bo Nicks was licking
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Speaker 3: some wounds during the regular season, I.
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Speaker 2: Would be totally here for it. I'd be like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: that makes perfect sense.
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Speaker 3: Sean Payton must have like bad photos of people that
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Speaker 3: he's like, hey, Man, send this message out though we're
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Speaker 3: we're just fine, that I'm good enough to overcome this,
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Speaker 3: or I'm gonna let everyone know about that Halloween party
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Speaker 3: a few years ago, the last that Halloween party. The
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Speaker 3: last three or four days, I've just been watching everyone
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Speaker 3: just be like, yeah, Broncos and wow, they're gonna be
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Speaker 3: fine though how oh yes, I get it. The Broncos
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Speaker 3: lean more on their defense than these other teams that
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Speaker 3: are remaining, and the conference championship weekend, the Broncos have
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Speaker 3: generated a lot more turnovers than most of these teams.
22:13
Speaker 3: The Broncos, though, in the playoffs, have been pass happy,
22:20
Speaker 3: pass heavy. I don't know Man's it's crazy. Get call
22:26
Speaker 3: Garrett Bowls right now, James, and we're gonna somehow make
22:31
Speaker 3: him tell the truth about how confident he is about
22:33
Speaker 3: Jared Stidham being able to win. Like, you go through
22:36
Speaker 3: these games, and you go through these practices, and you
22:40
Speaker 3: go through an entire season relying on a person, and
22:44
Speaker 3: the quarterback position is the most important in all of
22:47
Speaker 3: teams sports.
22:48
Speaker 2: We've talked about that at nauseum.
22:50
Speaker 3: But even if it weren't the quarterback, right, even if
22:53
Speaker 3: we were talking about Garrett Bowles being out for this game,
22:56
Speaker 3: there would be more conversation about how problematic, how damage
23:00
Speaker 3: that could be for the Denver Broncos. That what we're
23:02
Speaker 3: hearing about bo Knicks being gone. What did bow Nicks
23:07
Speaker 3: do to have people think like he's a non factor?
23:12
Speaker 3: Him being absent doesn't really affect this team all that much.
23:15
Speaker 3: Your defense in Denver is awesome, it's not that awesome
23:18
Speaker 3: that you don't have to worry about whether or not
23:20
Speaker 3: your quarterback can throw passes.
23:24
Speaker 2: Anyway, I'll get off the soapbox.
23:26
Speaker 3: There another thing that's really fascinating to me about Conference
23:30
Speaker 3: championship weekend. We talked all year long about how the
23:33
Speaker 3: Rams are playing on a pace and the Rams should
23:37
Speaker 3: be in a position to do exactly this, to punch
23:40
Speaker 3: a ticket to the Super Bowl and maybe repeat, not repeat,
23:44
Speaker 3: but do it again. Do you remember, if we go
23:49
Speaker 3: back to training camp, when the conversation around Matthew Stafford
23:54
Speaker 3: was whether or not he was going to be able
23:56
Speaker 3: to play this year because he was getting epidurals in
23:58
Speaker 3: his back like a woman in labor, because he wasn't
24:02
Speaker 3: able to stand up, he couldn't put on his own pants,
24:06
Speaker 3: and now he's got his team on.
24:07
Speaker 2: The brink of another Super Bowl.
24:10
Speaker 3: Toughness is not something that I typically index four on
24:14
Speaker 3: quarterback play because the rules protect quarterbacks. There's a lot
24:19
Speaker 3: of impact at virtually every other position in the NFL
24:22
Speaker 3: except quarterbacks. But Matthew Stafford, if his back problems have
24:30
Speaker 3: even been an echo of what they were in the
24:32
Speaker 3: offseason and he's just pushing through it and probably medicating
24:36
Speaker 3: him his way through it, this is gonna be I mean,
24:39
Speaker 3: you can't call it comeback player of the Year or
24:41
Speaker 3: anything like that, but if there's an award for just
24:45
Speaker 3: resilience and finding a way through, it might belong to
24:48
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford, who is one of the favorites to be
24:51
Speaker 3: the MVP of the NFL this year, and again the
24:55
Speaker 3: storyline in August was he is immobile right now. Pretty
25:05
Speaker 3: impressive what the Rams have been able to do. I
25:10
Speaker 3: but grudgingly, we'll also be impressed with Seattle's accomplishment and
25:14
Speaker 3: getting here. But it's a little closer to home, so
25:17
Speaker 3: I can't be too if you sip in the praise.
25:19
Speaker 6: Yeah.
25:20
Speaker 4: Also, you know you put on top of it that
25:23
Speaker 4: they that they cut Britain Covey before the season started,
25:27
Speaker 4: and yet and yet they're here.
25:29
Speaker 3: They somehow managed to survive cutting Britain Covey.
25:31
Speaker 4: Goodness, Like, that's that's quite the that's quite the thing
25:35
Speaker 4: to overcome too.
25:37
Speaker 3: I no, uh, I had I had.
25:40
Speaker 4: One other, one other thing with with Jared Stidham, and
25:45
Speaker 4: then we can absolutely move on from it. But you
25:49
Speaker 4: you think of like agents pushing quarterbacks to bet on
25:53
Speaker 4: themselves and like get that starting angle for the starting
25:56
Speaker 4: quarterback job too, Right, It's weird that if he's that
26:00
Speaker 4: well thought of of, that that kind of a talent
26:03
Speaker 4: to be one of the thirty two best quarterbacks, he's
26:05
Speaker 4: just a very handsomely paid backup for us. Why isn't
26:10
Speaker 4: his representation and he himself pushed for he yet get
26:14
Speaker 4: me to a place where I'm gonna be a starter
26:15
Speaker 4: then anyway, that that's the other really interesting thing with
26:18
Speaker 4: with Jared Stidham, and be an incredible story if they're
26:21
Speaker 4: able to if they're able to beat the Patriots at
26:24
Speaker 4: home on Sunday, I think there's plenty of reason to doubt,
26:27
Speaker 4: just like you've been saying.
26:30
Speaker 3: Let's see twenty twenty five. I'm breaking down the salary here. Okay,
26:34
Speaker 3: three million dollars signing bonus, so roster bonus of five
26:43
Speaker 3: hundred grand. So they pro rated his signing bonus, which
26:46
Speaker 3: means the roster bonus and the signing bonus account for
26:49
Speaker 3: two million dollars for him to do almost nothing this year,
26:52
Speaker 3: and his base salary is just under two million dollars
26:56
Speaker 3: this year. His cap hit is about four million dollars
26:59
Speaker 3: this year. And then the second half of this contract,
27:02
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty six portion of this contract is where
27:04
Speaker 3: the big cash comes in. But this is a guy
27:08
Speaker 3: who is just been laying in the weeds apparently, and
27:12
Speaker 3: is the best kept secret in all of Pro football
27:15
Speaker 3: to where now the Denver Broncos are like, yeah, Jared
27:17
Speaker 3: Didam's good and he's gonna win this playoff game, and
27:20
Speaker 3: he may very well do that, right, it could happen.
27:25
Speaker 3: Denver's a good team. They're a pretty complete team right now.
27:27
Speaker 3: Their offensive line has been playing alright. Their defense if
27:31
Speaker 3: Nick Benito and that defensive front can generate the havoc
27:35
Speaker 3: that we know they're capable of and rush the passer
27:39
Speaker 3: effectively and create a bunch of problems for New England,
27:42
Speaker 3: and hopefully, if you're a Denver fan, hopefully the quarterback
27:45
Speaker 3: situation is not even what I should be talking about
27:48
Speaker 3: right now. But you will not find in NBA playoffs,
27:54
Speaker 3: in NHL playoffs, or in NFL playoffs in any other
27:57
Speaker 3: year an injury of this important being so cast aside,
28:03
Speaker 3: so dismissed, so ignored. Now watch, he's gonna end up
28:11
Speaker 3: having like a five hundred yard day. And I'm gonna
28:13
Speaker 3: come on a month. I have to come on a
28:14
Speaker 3: Monday and be like, well, I was an idiot for doubting.
28:20
Speaker 2: We probably won't.
28:21
Speaker 3: You might, all right, We got to take a break here.
28:24
Speaker 3: Andy Larson's gonna join us at noon. We'll talk a
28:27
Speaker 3: little jazz with him. Ben care the former UVU All
28:31
Speaker 3: American who has a movie about his life premiering to
28:34
Speaker 3: day Ben Care. It's hard for me to even describe
28:39
Speaker 3: how impressive this guy is.
28:42
Speaker 2: Look him up.
28:43
Speaker 3: If you haven't, you've used first ever All American wrestler,
28:47
Speaker 3: you've used he was what fourth at Nationals. The guy
28:52
Speaker 3: is just an absolute inspiration. He was born with something
28:56
Speaker 3: called cruise On syndrome, which is a cranio facial disorder
29:00
Speaker 3: changes the appearance to development of your facial structure and
29:03
Speaker 3: your head and the bones and things like that. And
29:06
Speaker 3: Ben and I we went. We were in high school
29:09
Speaker 3: at the same time. I saw Ben wrestling on the
29:12
Speaker 3: mats back in the high school days. And he was
29:15
Speaker 3: a three time state champion at Viumont and then he
29:18
Speaker 3: moved on to great.
29:19
Speaker 2: Success at UVU.
29:21
Speaker 3: He could have gone to like Oklahoma, he decided to
29:24
Speaker 3: go to UVU because he wanted to stay close to family.
29:27
Speaker 3: He wanted his family to be able to see his
29:29
Speaker 3: collegiate wrestling career. And he when he left UVU, he
29:33
Speaker 3: was the most accomplished, the most decorated, the most successful
29:36
Speaker 3: UVU wrestler in the program's history. Now there is a
29:40
Speaker 3: movie about his life it's called Standout the Ben Care Story.
29:44
Speaker 3: It's an Angel Studios thing. You can get tickets at
29:48
Speaker 3: Standout film dot com. You can find listings. They're at
29:51
Speaker 3: the megaplex theaters, they're at all the local theaters. A
29:55
Speaker 3: nationwide release, and I hope that we can support this
29:59
Speaker 3: because I know Ben personally. He's a really cool, really
30:01
Speaker 3: great guy. He's an inspirational guy. And the story from
30:05
Speaker 3: what I've been told, I haven't seen the movie yet,
30:06
Speaker 3: but it's apparently kind of a tear jerker but also
30:10
Speaker 3: very very triumphant. So we'll talk with Ben Care about
30:14
Speaker 3: that movie coming up at one o'clock and Bill Riley
30:17
Speaker 3: is going to join us in three minutes. ESPN seven
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Speaker 1: You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
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30:39
Speaker 3: That's Bill Riley's music, which means we're checking in with
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Speaker 3: the voice of the utes former host of the ESPN
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Speaker 3: seven hundred show in this time slot. Bill Riley joins
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Speaker 3: us most Fridays, and he's here again.
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Speaker 2: Hey Bill, how are.
30:52
Speaker 6: You Seana great?
30:54
Speaker 2: How are you I'm doing okay.
30:57
Speaker 3: We've got a big time Holy War basketball rivalry game,
31:00
Speaker 3: this time happening in Provo on the weekend.
31:04
Speaker 2: You can hear that call right here in ESPN seven hundred.
31:06
Speaker 3: Bill Riley will be on it, as is always the case,
31:10
Speaker 3: And the last time we saw these two teams square off, it.
31:13
Speaker 2: Was a hard fought battle right down to the end.
31:16
Speaker 3: No secret that from a talent standpoint, the running Uts
31:19
Speaker 3: are a little bit overmatched, but they made that one
31:21
Speaker 3: a game and there were opportunities where the outcome could
31:23
Speaker 3: have been different. As they go on the road this time,
31:27
Speaker 3: how can they try to replicate some of the successes
31:30
Speaker 3: they had but maybe get over the hump in a
31:33
Speaker 3: hostile environment.
31:35
Speaker 7: Well, they have to play as hard as they played
31:37
Speaker 7: in that game, Sean. That was the thing about that
31:39
Speaker 7: game against BYU, And it always helps when you're at
31:41
Speaker 7: home and you've got a huge home crowd behind you.
31:43
Speaker 7: It was a sellout that day and all of that stuff.
31:46
Speaker 7: But they really really brought the effort in that game
31:50
Speaker 7: and didn't dig themselves in an early hole, and they played,
31:54
Speaker 7: for the most part, really smart basketball. So that's where
31:58
Speaker 7: it's got to start, because when you go on the road.
32:01
Speaker 7: You know this, It doesn't matter if it's football or basketball,
32:03
Speaker 7: or soccer or baseball. You have to ratchet it up
32:07
Speaker 7: just a little bit more. So they're going to have
32:10
Speaker 7: to play at least as hard as they did at home.
32:12
Speaker 7: But what they're going to have to do a little
32:13
Speaker 7: bit better than they did at home is you can't
32:17
Speaker 7: allow extra possessions for a team like BYU. Richie Saunders
32:22
Speaker 7: had six offensive rebounds.
32:24
Speaker 6: In that game.
32:25
Speaker 7: You can't let anybody have six offensive rebounds, but you
32:28
Speaker 7: certainly can't allow a guard to come up with six
32:31
Speaker 7: offensive rebounds. That buys you extra possessions and buys you
32:34
Speaker 7: extra buckets. So I think that the game plan that
32:38
Speaker 7: they had was very solid. Rob Wright had a really
32:40
Speaker 7: good game, Richie Sonders had a really good game. AJ Devonsa,
32:45
Speaker 7: by his standard, had a kind of an average game,
32:49
Speaker 7: which most people would love to have an average game.
32:51
Speaker 7: But you talked ad a pretty good job on him.
32:53
Speaker 7: They made him kind of earn his points from the
32:55
Speaker 7: free throw line. But they have to bring the same
32:58
Speaker 7: type of effort, if not made even a little bit
33:00
Speaker 7: more than what they did at home to go down
33:03
Speaker 7: to Prolo tomorrow and compete with Byu.
33:06
Speaker 3: Keanu Dawes in the first matchup was not really able
33:09
Speaker 3: to get himself going from a scoring standpoint. So you
33:12
Speaker 3: just you pointed out the fact that Byu ended up
33:16
Speaker 3: with three guys that had scored twenty or more points.
33:18
Speaker 3: And obviously you can't count on that every single night.
33:22
Speaker 3: But in this game the first time out, Utah had
33:26
Speaker 3: great production offensively from Terrence Brown, great production from Don
33:30
Speaker 3: mc henry, and then not really the third option to
33:33
Speaker 3: emerge off the bench or from elsewhere in the starting
33:36
Speaker 3: lineup to kind of give them that it doesn't have
33:39
Speaker 3: to be twenty, but to give them that double digit
33:41
Speaker 3: scorer to kind of add to your main horses. Is
33:44
Speaker 3: that something that we could see, hopefully see in the
33:48
Speaker 3: trip to Marriott Center.
33:50
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean I will say this, Dawes' numbers,
33:54
Speaker 7: scoring numbers weren't big in that first game. I think
33:57
Speaker 7: he had seven points and five rebounds, took six shots,
34:02
Speaker 7: he drew a lot of the assignment on Dabansa and
34:06
Speaker 7: that that's a handful right there. But to your point, yeah,
34:10
Speaker 7: they've they've got to get a little bit more offensively
34:12
Speaker 7: out of him. You know, you'd like to get a
34:14
Speaker 7: little bit more out of a guy like Sadu Triori
34:16
Speaker 7: as well. Sadu had a really nice game at Kansas
34:19
Speaker 7: State the other night, so if you can get a
34:20
Speaker 7: little bit more out of him. But I'll tell you
34:22
Speaker 7: a guy that's important for them, and it's not so
34:25
Speaker 7: much in a scoring standpoint.
34:27
Speaker 6: It's James A. Konkquo.
34:29
Speaker 7: A Conquo played arguably his best game of the year
34:32
Speaker 7: against BYU the first time around. He only had four points,
34:35
Speaker 7: but what he had was thirteen rebounds and four offensive rebounds.
34:39
Speaker 7: And for a team that doesn't have a great deal
34:41
Speaker 7: of size playing against the BYU team that rebounds h
34:45
Speaker 7: very well with Cada and the new kid that they
34:48
Speaker 7: brought in from the G League. Then I mentioned Richie
34:50
Speaker 7: Saunders and De bonsa earlier. I think a guy like
34:53
Speaker 7: a Conquo has got to stay out of some foul trouble,
34:55
Speaker 7: but he's got to be the same type of a
34:57
Speaker 7: force that he was on the glass in the first
35:00
Speaker 7: game to give Utahn opportunity to go down to BYU
35:05
Speaker 7: and be really.
35:05
Speaker 6: Competitive and push that game late like they did at home.
35:09
Speaker 3: I was very impressed with the con Quo in that
35:12
Speaker 3: first game, Like you already said the rebounds, I talked
35:15
Speaker 3: about it way too much. But when he decided to
35:17
Speaker 3: go up on a charging right down the center lane
35:21
Speaker 3: aj De Bonsa and challenge that dunk and ended up
35:24
Speaker 3: getting the block there, it was kind of an inflection point,
35:27
Speaker 3: an emotional inflection point in the game, and it was
35:30
Speaker 3: a bit of a statement like, yeah, you guys are
35:32
Speaker 3: the talented that he might be the number one overall
35:34
Speaker 3: pick or whatever, but we're not going to give you
35:36
Speaker 3: anything free. And that felt like something that was pretty
35:40
Speaker 3: important from the Alex Jensen standpoint, like when he's trying
35:43
Speaker 3: to establish his culture and a team that reminds us
35:46
Speaker 3: of how he used to play, that was a moment
35:49
Speaker 3: that I think highlighted that well.
35:51
Speaker 7: Yeah, because if he doesn't do that, if you remember
35:54
Speaker 7: the play, debonsa left from right inside the foul line,
35:57
Speaker 7: he had that arm cocked back at about a forty
36:00
Speaker 7: five degree angle and he was going to go on
36:02
Speaker 7: a Sports Center Top ten play and try to bring
36:05
Speaker 7: the house down and a concuo. You know, even if
36:09
Speaker 7: he stops the dunk, it makes a statement like no,
36:11
Speaker 7: nothing easy here. But for him to have gone up
36:14
Speaker 7: and blocked that shot. It's like, Okay, yeah, we're here.
36:17
Speaker 7: We're going to compete with you. We know what the
36:19
Speaker 7: headline say, but this is kind of our house and
36:22
Speaker 7: we're gonna be there in James's play. I mean, he's
36:24
Speaker 7: in his sixth year of playing college basketball. Sean, he
36:27
Speaker 7: played at West Virginia for a couple of years. He
36:29
Speaker 7: played at North Carolina, he played at Akron, so he's
36:32
Speaker 7: been in the Big twelve, He's played against big time players,
36:34
Speaker 7: so you're gonna need that from him. You know, the
36:38
Speaker 7: freshman Kendall Sanders be nice to get a little bit
36:40
Speaker 7: out of him. He at nine points in that first
36:42
Speaker 7: game too, and he came in from IMG played a
36:45
Speaker 7: lot of big time opponents there. So you know, Utah
36:48
Speaker 7: doesn't have, you know, a big three like BYU's big three.
36:53
Speaker 7: They've got a good big two. Terrence Brown and Don
36:56
Speaker 7: McHenry can score the basketball with anybody in the country,
36:59
Speaker 7: but they they don't have quite the overall less So
37:02
Speaker 7: they've got to do it collectively. And if they can
37:04
Speaker 7: get the same type effort that they got in that
37:07
Speaker 7: first game, and maybe you know, don't give up a
37:09
Speaker 7: couple of possessions with offensive rebounds, I'd love their opportunity
37:13
Speaker 7: to get into that second half with you know, eight
37:15
Speaker 7: ten minutes to play and still be in that ballgame.
37:18
Speaker 7: So I think it'll be fun tomorrow, especially because they've
37:20
Speaker 7: seen them once already. It was only two weeks ago
37:23
Speaker 7: and they played well. So we'll see what happens.
37:25
Speaker 3: Since the last time we talked, Utah was able to
37:27
Speaker 3: secure their first Big twelve victory under Alex Jensen eighty
37:32
Speaker 3: two to seventy nine against TCU. Unfortunately, they didn't build
37:35
Speaker 3: on that momentum and they ended up losing a close
37:37
Speaker 3: one to Kansas State. But focusing on TCU and kind
37:41
Speaker 3: of getting that monkey off the back. Now you've got
37:43
Speaker 3: a big twelve win under your new head coach. How
37:45
Speaker 3: significant is that do you think for the team moving forward?
37:48
Speaker 7: Well, it's significant. It would have been even more so
37:51
Speaker 7: had they been able to secure that win the other night.
37:53
Speaker 7: That game of Kansas State was there for the taking
37:56
Speaker 7: for them. A couple of possessions here and there, a
37:59
Speaker 7: couple of little mental mistakes.
38:00
Speaker 6: Here and there.
38:01
Speaker 7: Maybe if you guard just a little bit better, that
38:05
Speaker 7: that game might have been yours and that would have
38:07
Speaker 7: been a back to back road wins. Would have been
38:09
Speaker 7: uh you know, back to that wins, one on the road,
38:11
Speaker 7: one at home, and then you've got a little bit
38:13
Speaker 7: more win at your back. Yet they're they're they're they're competing,
38:16
Speaker 7: they're playing hard, they're competing. But boy, if you could
38:19
Speaker 7: have grabbed that case state win to back it up
38:22
Speaker 7: after the TCU win, I think you'd feel a lot
38:24
Speaker 7: better about things. So we'll see how it plays tomorrow.
38:28
Speaker 7: You know there's incremental improvement. You're seeing it if you
38:31
Speaker 7: watch this team game in and game out the way
38:33
Speaker 7: I do. You've seen them improve from the beginning of
38:36
Speaker 7: the year till right now under what Alex is doing.
38:39
Speaker 7: But you know, you'd like you know, there's no easy
38:42
Speaker 7: games in the Big twelve. There just aren't. And and
38:46
Speaker 7: so when you have that opportunity to grab a win,
38:49
Speaker 7: you'd love to see your team be.
38:51
Speaker 6: Able to come take it, you know what I mean.
38:54
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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39:10
Speaker 2: You want to get the win down in provo.
39:12
Speaker 3: But we know that these two teams are right now,
39:16
Speaker 3: they're kind of at different levels of their progression under
39:19
Speaker 3: new head coaches Alex Jensen in his first year establishing
39:22
Speaker 3: his culture and changing this program's future around. We hope
39:26
Speaker 3: Kevin Young is a couple of years into his project
39:29
Speaker 3: and has, as far as we're aware, some of the
39:32
Speaker 3: most robust financial support that you can find in all
39:35
Speaker 3: of college basketball. So it's apples to oranges on some
39:39
Speaker 3: of that front. And you still got to find a
39:41
Speaker 3: way to win. But what is a what is an
39:44
Speaker 3: acceptable performance if not a win look like from Utah
39:47
Speaker 3: basketball on the road at BYU, Well.
39:50
Speaker 7: I think it's what I just said. I think it's
39:52
Speaker 7: competing in not you know, let's just use the Arizona
39:56
Speaker 7: game for an example. You know, they were down eighteen
39:59
Speaker 7: at the half. They didn't play terribly in the first half.
40:01
Speaker 7: Arizona played unbelievably, but they came out in the second
40:05
Speaker 7: half and played the number one team of the country.
40:07
Speaker 7: And they're the best team I've seen so far this year.
40:10
Speaker 7: Dead even to you know, to a stalemate in the
40:12
Speaker 7: second half. I'm not saying you want to get down
40:14
Speaker 7: eighteen at the Marriott Center tomorrow. But what I'm saying
40:17
Speaker 7: is competing for forty minutes, giving your best effort for
40:21
Speaker 7: forty minutes. You know, it's like anything else, whether it's
40:25
Speaker 7: your kids in school and you know they come home
40:27
Speaker 7: with a report card that's got to be in a
40:29
Speaker 7: C on it. But if they gave it their very
40:31
Speaker 7: best and that's the best they could possibly do, well,
40:34
Speaker 7: then you're happy with that. Yeah, Alex is not a
40:37
Speaker 7: moral victory guy. He says that to me all the time,
40:40
Speaker 7: and he's as frustrated with these losses because you know,
40:44
Speaker 7: he's a winner, he's a competitor.
40:46
Speaker 6: But if your team is.
40:47
Speaker 7: Giving you everything they have and they're playing and maxing
40:51
Speaker 7: out what they have and competing and going toe to
40:55
Speaker 7: toe with one of the best teams in the country,
40:57
Speaker 7: I think that's what a victory looks like. Would you
41:00
Speaker 7: like to be have the victory on the scoreboard, Absolutely,
41:03
Speaker 7: But if your team goes down and competes their tails
41:05
Speaker 7: off for forty minutes and they're in the game in
41:08
Speaker 7: the second half, giving themselves a chance to win, you know,
41:12
Speaker 7: he won't say that publicly because he's not a believer
41:14
Speaker 7: in moral victories. But to me, playing really hard, playing
41:19
Speaker 7: really smart, and playing toe to toe with the top
41:21
Speaker 7: ten team.
41:23
Speaker 6: Is a good effort on Saturday night. So we'll see
41:25
Speaker 6: what happens.
41:28
Speaker 3: Since we last spoke, we also had the Big twelve
41:30
Speaker 3: football schedule released Utah. I'm trying to be realistic and
41:35
Speaker 3: I'm trying to temper expectations, and then I see the slate.
41:38
Speaker 3: I see how this thing lays out, and I'm like, well,
41:41
Speaker 3: you got to start the season six and oh, you're
41:43
Speaker 3: probably going to be favored, and at least five of
41:45
Speaker 3: those first six games, and you got the only bye
41:48
Speaker 3: week of the season in there, and then Week eight,
41:50
Speaker 3: I think Houston has some talent, and obviously BYU Week ten,
41:55
Speaker 3: and you finish with a couple of tough matchups. But
41:58
Speaker 3: if I'm Morgan Scallion, I know coaches don't think this way.
42:01
Speaker 3: But if I'm Morgan Scallion, I see this schedule for
42:03
Speaker 3: my very first year at the HELM, I'm like, well,
42:07
Speaker 3: the conference could have treated me worse that you dodge
42:10
Speaker 3: Texas Tech, you dodge Arizona State in the regular season.
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Speaker 2: I think it lays out nicely for the US.
42:16
Speaker 3: What do you think I.
42:18
Speaker 6: Do too, Sean.
42:19
Speaker 7: Now, you've got seven home games this year, which is great,
42:23
Speaker 7: only the one by week it's early October, maybe like
42:26
Speaker 7: a little bit later. But I will say this, they
42:29
Speaker 7: have a tough stretch, that stretch at Cincinnati, Arizona, TCU,
42:35
Speaker 7: Houston and BYU. That five game stretch from what is
42:38
Speaker 7: it late October through mid November's that's not an easy stretch.
42:44
Speaker 7: But you're missing Texas Tech, You're missing Kansas State, You're
42:49
Speaker 7: missing Arizona State, you know Arkansas.
42:53
Speaker 6: This is one of those ones that looks.
42:54
Speaker 7: Really good on paper, but they were two and ten
42:57
Speaker 7: and oh to eight. They fired their head coach early
43:00
Speaker 7: in the season last year, so that's going to be
43:02
Speaker 7: a whole new coaching staff coming in.
43:04
Speaker 6: I like this schedule for Utah, I really do.
43:08
Speaker 7: And I think having Houston at home and BYU at
43:11
Speaker 7: home are big games. Going to Arizona in November.
43:16
Speaker 6: That's not going to be an easy game.
43:18
Speaker 7: Noa Felfida and Arizona's given Utah fits in recent years.
43:22
Speaker 7: But I overall think this is a really good schedule
43:25
Speaker 7: and I I could absolutely see this as a ten
43:28
Speaker 7: wins schedule and a ten win slate this year, maybe more,
43:33
Speaker 7: depending on how things come together. It's way too early
43:36
Speaker 7: because everybody's got questions right now. But I don't think
43:40
Speaker 7: that this is a wildly difficult schedule for the UTES.
43:44
Speaker 6: Now.
43:44
Speaker 7: Again, maybe I'm proven wrong. Maybe some teams pop up
43:47
Speaker 7: that we didn't see last year. I'm not sure we
43:48
Speaker 7: saw Houston being a ten win team. I'm not sure
43:51
Speaker 7: a lot of us saw Arizona being a ten win team.
43:54
Speaker 7: So we'll see what happens. But I do think that
43:56
Speaker 7: the twenty twenty six football schedule shapes up pretty good
43:59
Speaker 7: for the.
44:01
Speaker 2: B YU scheduled in Week ten.
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Speaker 3: Again, I did my rant about this, it's the best
44:07
Speaker 3: rivalry game you've got left in the Big twelve.
44:09
Speaker 2: It should be in Rivalry weekend.
44:11
Speaker 3: But then, you know, the conference makes the case that
44:14
Speaker 3: if you put it here it's more nationally showcased, then
44:16
Speaker 3: it doesn't get lost in some of the other rivalry games.
44:20
Speaker 3: Are we ever going to see the Holy War played
44:22
Speaker 3: at the final week of the season, Again, I don't.
44:25
Speaker 6: I don't know.
44:26
Speaker 7: I mean, i'd see the argument what the conference says.
44:28
Speaker 7: I mean, if you're looking around the country and seeing
44:31
Speaker 7: what other games are, maybe it does get more prominently showcased,
44:34
Speaker 7: and that maybe that's what's most important for the Big
44:36
Speaker 7: Twelve Conference.
44:37
Speaker 6: I'm like you, you.
44:39
Speaker 7: Know, I you know, the Big Ten puts their biggest
44:41
Speaker 7: rivals at the end of the year. The SEC puts
44:44
Speaker 7: some of their biggest rivals at the end of the year.
44:47
Speaker 7: It's almost like the Big Twelve kind of waves the
44:49
Speaker 7: white flag and says, nah, we don't want to compete
44:52
Speaker 7: with you guys. We're going to take and put one
44:54
Speaker 7: of our biggest rivalries, if not our biggest conference rivalry
44:57
Speaker 7: on November the seventh.
44:58
Speaker 6: But if I'm not mistaken, don't they.
45:00
Speaker 7: Play the Arizona Arizona State game at the end of
45:02
Speaker 7: the year, Yes, they do, so why no offense to
45:07
Speaker 7: the Territorial Cup. But I don't think it has the
45:10
Speaker 7: same juice that Utah BYU does. And I know those
45:13
Speaker 7: schools hate each other.
45:14
Speaker 6: I do.
45:15
Speaker 7: I know those schools hate each other. But I think
45:17
Speaker 7: if you talk to people, even around the country, most
45:19
Speaker 7: people would tell you that Utah BYU is a bigger
45:23
Speaker 7: rivalry than Arizona Arizona State is.
45:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, the rivalry games played in Week thirteen this year
45:29
Speaker 3: are Kansas State. No excuse me, Kansas State's playing Iowa State. Yeah,
45:34
Speaker 3: so Farmageddon is being played, Territorial Cup is being played
45:38
Speaker 3: in Rivalry week and the of course long standing BYU
45:43
Speaker 3: Cincinnati rivalry is being played in Week thirteen.
45:48
Speaker 2: I mean, I.
45:49
Speaker 3: Don't know if TCU Texas Tech really counts we would
45:53
Speaker 3: call it that, but that's an in state game. And
45:57
Speaker 3: beyond that, it's just those two I already mentioned. So
46:01
Speaker 3: the Big twelve is not embracing the competition of Rivalry
46:04
Speaker 3: weekend at Peers.
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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, but here's what I will say.
46:09
Speaker 7: If November seventh gives Utah and DYU the big showcase
46:13
Speaker 7: and we get one of those great prime Fox or
46:16
Speaker 7: ABC or ESPN windows, I'm okay with that. I would
46:21
Speaker 7: much rather play that there than if you said, well,
46:23
Speaker 7: we could play on November twenty eighth, but you'll be
46:25
Speaker 7: in the eight to fifteen Mountain time time slot. I
46:29
Speaker 7: would rather be on November seventh, in a prime slot
46:31
Speaker 7: where the country can see him, because I'm pretty sure
46:35
Speaker 7: that could be a top fifteen matchup by the time
46:38
Speaker 7: those two teams get together, maybe even better than that.
46:40
Speaker 3: On November seventh, just got an email about the University
46:47
Speaker 3: of Utah New baseball facility. Grand opening ceremony going to
46:50
Speaker 3: be happening next Wednesday. It looks like you're a baseball
46:54
Speaker 3: guy and you're a Utah guy. Bill, this is your
46:56
Speaker 3: world's coming together.
46:58
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'll be in seeing that ribbon cutting on
47:01
Speaker 7: next week. The America First Ballpark, Charlie Montford Field. It's
47:05
Speaker 7: it's a big deal. I walked through it a couple of.
47:07
Speaker 6: Weeks ago, Sean. It's it's beauty. First of all.
47:10
Speaker 7: It's a brand new ballpark, it's right on campus. It's
47:14
Speaker 7: the views of the mountains through Sunnyside Park are spectacular,
47:18
Speaker 7: and it's gonna be really cool. I mean, I mean
47:22
Speaker 7: Smith's Ballpark or you know, all its different iterations over
47:25
Speaker 7: the years. Downtown that was a wonderful baseball stadium.
47:29
Speaker 6: But it wasn't Utahs.
47:31
Speaker 7: You know, they were sharing it with the Bees, and
47:33
Speaker 7: it was frankly way too big for a college baseball stadium.
47:37
Speaker 7: But it was a nice home. But to have your
47:40
Speaker 7: own place on campus with the views and the students
47:44
Speaker 7: nearby and everything else, it's gonna be fantastic and I'm
47:49
Speaker 7: looking forward to I haven't seen the finished product yet.
47:51
Speaker 7: We'll see that next Wednesday. Because they're finishing everything up
47:54
Speaker 7: for the Grand Opening and then the first game in March.
47:57
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's gonna be pretty spectacular.
48:00
Speaker 2: Real quick.
48:00
Speaker 3: What's your Super Bowl matchup prediction as we head into
48:03
Speaker 3: AFC NFC Championship weekend.
48:06
Speaker 7: I had Bill's Rams about a week ago. That's clearly
48:11
Speaker 7: not gonna happen.
48:11
Speaker 6: Now.
48:12
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say Patriots Seahawks. I think we get a
48:15
Speaker 7: rematch of that game that Pete Carroll should have run
48:19
Speaker 7: the football on on the goal line. I like the
48:21
Speaker 7: Rams a lot, but boy, Seattle in Seattle, the way
48:25
Speaker 7: they're playing right now. The only thing that bothers me
48:28
Speaker 7: about that pick is I'm not sure if I completely
48:31
Speaker 7: trust Sam Darnold, and he has played terribly against the
48:34
Speaker 7: Rams this year, and it would be just like, you know,
48:38
Speaker 7: Sean Payton, the coach of a backup quarterback. But I
48:41
Speaker 7: think Rabel's got something pretty good going with the Patriots.
48:44
Speaker 7: It's hard for me to see Jared Stidham winning an
48:47
Speaker 7: AFC Championship.
48:49
Speaker 6: Game, So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Patriots and Seahawks.
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Speaker 6: Who are your picks? By the way for the Super Bowl?
49:46
Speaker 3: Well, I just was going off about how everyone's just
49:49
Speaker 3: acting like losing bo Nicks is not a big deal
49:52
Speaker 3: for the Broncos and Jared Stidham has not attempted any
49:55
Speaker 3: passes for the last two seasons, so I would like
49:58
Speaker 3: to see this utes laden Broncos roster move on. But
50:02
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be the Patriots, and I
50:04
Speaker 3: got a ride with our guy Eric Weddle and support
50:07
Speaker 3: the Rams here. I'd rather see the Rams do it
50:09
Speaker 3: than the Seahawks, although they are both divisional rivals of
50:12
Speaker 3: the San Francisco forty nine ers, so it's a tough
50:14
Speaker 3: pill to swallow on either front. But you know Matthew Stafford,
50:18
Speaker 3: and he's not getting any younger. His window might be
50:20
Speaker 3: closing sooner than later. I'd like to see him get
50:22
Speaker 3: another opportunity at it.
50:24
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm with you. You know what I think too.
50:29
Speaker 7: I just watching this year. Mike Rabel's a really good coach.
50:32
Speaker 7: I mean, he is a I mean it's amazing. He
50:35
Speaker 7: took over a team that was a dumpster fire under
50:37
Speaker 7: Drawdmeo last year and it's not like they're laden with
50:40
Speaker 7: a bunch of superstar players on that team. I just
50:44
Speaker 7: think Vrabels are really good coach.
50:46
Speaker 3: I think he is, and there should be some kind
50:49
Speaker 3: of penalty that you have to pay if you're a
50:51
Speaker 3: team that fires a coach and then his next stop
50:54
Speaker 3: he goes to a Super Bowl. The Titans have got
50:57
Speaker 3: to be feeling real stupid right now.
51:00
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, but that's kind of been the TITANSMO for
51:03
Speaker 7: a long time.
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Speaker 3: That's Bill Riley. He's the voice of the Youth's Bill
51:08
Speaker 3: always appreciate your time.
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Speaker 9: Thank you, See Shawn, all right, we.
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Speaker 3: Got to lead a board update next in the hot
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Speaker 3: lunch it's the Sean O'Connell Show on ESPN seven and ninetym.
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Speaker 1: You were listening to The Sean O'Connell Show from the
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Speaker 2: Andy Larson is going to join us to start hour
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Speaker 3: But first, a PGA Tour leaderboard update from the American
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Speaker 2: What do you have for us, James?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the first big PGA Tour event of
52:04
Speaker 4: the year. It's at Lakita Country Club in let's see, yeh,
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Speaker 4: Google didn't list it right away, so Lakenta Country Club there?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's.
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Speaker 2: In Lakenta, California.
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Speaker 3: Is Lakinta, California?
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Speaker 4: There you go, Seaw Kim is your leader, two shot
52:23
Speaker 4: lead over fellow Korean. I'm gonna I'm gonna try not
52:26
Speaker 4: to butcher this son, Jon Kim Uh. He's in second
52:32
Speaker 4: at twelve under Seawoo Kim and first at fourteen under.
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Speaker 4: Handful of guys tied for third, including Scottie Scheffler at
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Speaker 4: eleven unders. Still in the hunt here obviously early in
52:45
Speaker 4: the tournament, Ricky Fowler among a group that rounds out
52:48
Speaker 4: the top ten, Russell Henley as well Wyndham Clark, some
52:53
Speaker 4: big names there. Tied for eighth at ten under, four
52:56
Speaker 4: shots off the lead. Jason Day as well, re sent
53:00
Speaker 4: major winner. Local guys Tony Fenow is in this field,
53:06
Speaker 4: of course, and he is at four under, tied for
53:09
Speaker 4: eighty third. Four under sounds like a pretty good score,
53:12
Speaker 4: but that's a lot of guys are going low, so
53:17
Speaker 4: he's either around the cut line or just outside the
53:20
Speaker 4: cut line at this point, so he's got some work
53:21
Speaker 4: to do. He's only through seven holes, so he's got
53:23
Speaker 4: plenty of time to do.
53:24
Speaker 6: So.
53:25
Speaker 4: Another local guy is former BYU star Patrick Fishburne right
53:32
Speaker 4: there with Tony Fenw tied for eighty third at four unders.
53:35
Speaker 4: So both those local guys got some work to do.
53:38
Speaker 4: Fishburn has just started his round though, so a lot
53:41
Speaker 4: more golf ahead of him than few, but fe now
53:45
Speaker 4: still plenty of time to make up some ground there.
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Speaker 4: at Lakita Country Club, Lakita, California.
53:54
Speaker 3: I knew that right off the top post. I think
53:57
Speaker 3: southwest of Joshua Tree National Park, just a little bit
54:01
Speaker 3: northwest of the Saltan Sea, which is one of your
54:03
Speaker 3: favorite bodies of water in southern California.
54:06
Speaker 4: I know absolutely love to float yep, don't we all.
54:12
Speaker 4: I assume salt and sea means very salty. I guess
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Speaker 4: you can float like you do with the great in
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Speaker 4: the Great Salt Lake.
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Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna have to look up because I'm always
54:21
Speaker 3: curious when I see these like little landmarks. I don't
54:24
Speaker 3: know much about the Saltan Sea. I think there's a
54:26
Speaker 3: movie called Sultan. See anyway, I'll find out more about
54:30
Speaker 3: it and report back.
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Speaker 2: Okay, it's good.
54:32
Speaker 4: By the way, we were talking about RSL potential rebrand.
54:37
Speaker 4: What about the old Salt Air FC. You've seen the
54:40
Speaker 4: Twitter account love it hashtag try to sink Maybe we
54:43
Speaker 4: just maybe we just make that a real team.
54:45
Speaker 3: By the way, I don't know if everyone in the
54:47
Speaker 3: sports sphere really got on board with this. It was
54:50
Speaker 3: kind of a COVID thing, wasn't it. Where they were
54:52
Speaker 3: doing where the salt Air FC was. Really they're putting
54:55
Speaker 3: out a bunch of stuff. I don't know if they've
54:58
Speaker 3: done a whole lot. Late he came up with this
55:00
Speaker 3: really really cool logo that was the Saltaire like this
55:07
Speaker 3: kind of like Facado Saltaire on fire, which of course happened.
55:11
Speaker 3: Really really cool a slogan try to sink because of
55:15
Speaker 3: course you can't. It's very salty. And they were the
55:18
Speaker 3: Fighting Brian. I bought a sweatshirt. I have a Fighting
55:21
Speaker 3: Brian sweatshirt of salt Air FC.
55:23
Speaker 2: Of course you do. You are always on board with that.
55:26
Speaker 3: I love this stuff, man, like the sports brand. They
55:28
Speaker 3: just made up a totally real, definitely historic and relevant
55:34
Speaker 3: football club that may or may not have ever existed.
55:38
Speaker 3: It was such a great little thing, great little campaign.
55:41
Speaker 3: I don't know the people. I don't know who they
55:42
Speaker 3: are behind this thing, but I want them to do it.
55:46
Speaker 3: Many many times we shren over again, we should effort
55:49
Speaker 3: getting whoever's in charge of it, whatever group of people
55:53
Speaker 3: in charge of it, on the show and try to
55:54
Speaker 3: get them to campaign if you're going to rebrand Miller group,
55:59
Speaker 3: like take our I see so where we'll sell it
56:02
Speaker 3: to you? When they were when they were doing how
56:04
Speaker 3: cool would that be? Salta FC, SALTAREFC, Like if that
56:09
Speaker 3: was the actual MLS team for Utah, that would be
56:11
Speaker 3: so sick, that would be amazing.
56:14
Speaker 4: Spence check Its is listening somewhere and yelling into his car.
56:17
Speaker 2: Betts.
56:18
Speaker 3: I knew Spencer because Spence has like a family connection too.
56:21
Speaker 4: It's personal to him. Andy Larson, I'm gonna have to
56:24
Speaker 4: ask him about this. He told me. He told me
56:26
Speaker 4: he has a grievance related to that perfect last night
56:29
Speaker 4: when I was at the Jess Spers as well.
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Speaker 2: How are you, sir?
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Speaker 5: I'm good man.
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Speaker 6: How are you?
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Speaker 2: I'm doing great.
57:51
Speaker 3: Did the Utah Jazz find themselves the next triple double
57:55
Speaker 3: machine in use of Nurkic back to back triple doubles.
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Speaker 5: He's now fifth all time in jazz triple doubles.
58:06
Speaker 2: Amazing.
58:09
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's remarkable, right, Like I mean, props
58:12
Speaker 5: the Nurkic for going from like a guy who was
58:15
Speaker 5: salary dumped with the first round pick from the Suns
58:18
Speaker 5: last year, to being a legitimate contributor on on like
58:23
Speaker 5: what appears to be you know, like he is the
58:25
Speaker 5: offensive engine of this team. It's it's pretty bunkers and
58:31
Speaker 5: also says a lot about how few triple doubles the
58:34
Speaker 5: jazz has had, that two is good enough to get
58:37
Speaker 5: you top five on the All Time Jazz List.
58:39
Speaker 2: Yes, we had.
58:40
Speaker 3: We had Gordy Chase in studio yesterday and he gave
58:42
Speaker 3: us the list of triple doubles in Utah jazz history,
58:46
Speaker 3: the triple double leaders, and it was like, with one,
58:50
Speaker 3: you going to the top five, a bunch of guys
58:53
Speaker 3: tied with one triple doubles. Oh wow, Okay, Carl, I
58:57
Speaker 3: mean the fact that Karl Malone only had three in
58:59
Speaker 3: his entire care is genuinely shocking to me.
59:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, no one was getting like ten assists
59:07
Speaker 5: back then, right, Like that's other than John Stockton. And
59:12
Speaker 5: then you know, obviously John Stockton couldn't get ten rebounds
59:14
Speaker 5: very often.
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Speaker 9: You know.
59:16
Speaker 5: The way thing is just like in the last two
59:19
Speaker 5: decades where you know, all sorts of random guys have
59:22
Speaker 5: gotten a ton of triple doubles. The Jazz didn't have
59:26
Speaker 5: anyone to get there. I think some of that was
59:27
Speaker 5: like Quinn Snyder's offensive system for nearly a decade did
59:31
Speaker 5: not lead to a lot of assists totals. But you know,
59:35
Speaker 5: and now, it's nurk not you know, Donovan Mitchell, not
59:40
Speaker 5: Darren Williams, not you know, Gordon Hayward, not Rudy Gobert.
59:43
Speaker 5: It's not Lowry Markinen, it's Usuf Nurkics. It's not Cante George.
59:47
Speaker 5: It's use of Nurkis getting these triple doubles.
59:50
Speaker 3: Do you know so Mark Eaton right now is second
59:52
Speaker 3: on the all time list of triple doubles. He had six,
59:55
Speaker 3: pistol Pete Maravitch had seven. Do you know if Mark
59:59
Speaker 3: Eaton's trip doles were like ten block triple doubles instead
1:00:02
Speaker 3: of assist and point triple doubles, I mean.
1:00:05
Speaker 2: It feels like, yeah, they were blocks.
1:00:07
Speaker 3: Were his third stat and all those right, Yes, that's
1:00:11
Speaker 3: such an insane thing for block shots to be in
1:00:14
Speaker 3: double digits.
1:00:15
Speaker 5: But yeah, Rudy Gobert got nine blocks once but then
1:00:19
Speaker 5: never got to the triple double ten.
1:00:22
Speaker 3: That's a that's a wild thing. But we're not here
1:00:25
Speaker 3: just to talk triple doubles.
1:00:27
Speaker 1: Uh.
1:00:28
Speaker 3: Look, I think you're gonna hear this question for me
1:00:30
Speaker 3: every time you join me, because it's once a month
1:00:32
Speaker 3: or less. Is this team too good to achieve what
1:00:36
Speaker 3: they're actually trying to achieve this year?
1:00:40
Speaker 5: I mean it feels if they played everyone. Yes, I
1:00:43
Speaker 5: think they are right. Like, I think we have some
1:00:45
Speaker 5: pretty good evidence at this point that if you play
1:00:47
Speaker 5: Lowry Market and a new play Kiante George, and you
1:00:49
Speaker 5: play norkicch and See and you you surround them with
1:00:53
Speaker 5: some reasonably good young guys, which is what it appears
1:00:56
Speaker 5: to Jazz have, Like you can get.
1:00:58
Speaker 8: To thirty five and.
1:01:00
Speaker 5: Maybe even forty wins like and that is probably too
1:01:03
Speaker 5: good to get you a bottom eight spot in the
1:01:06
Speaker 5: draft order, which is what the Jazz need in order
1:01:09
Speaker 5: to keep their pick. And so I think that's why
1:01:11
Speaker 5: you have seen over the last few weeks the Jazz
1:01:15
Speaker 5: choose to sit the use of Nur Kitchens Fee and
1:01:18
Speaker 5: and you know lottery I think was legitimately ill last week.
1:01:22
Speaker 5: He looked exhausted in his return to fitness, you know,
1:01:26
Speaker 5: conditioning before the game yesterday. But you know, I think
1:01:31
Speaker 5: there is clearly you know, the Jazz are going to
1:01:34
Speaker 5: play with the injury report, the availability report a little
1:01:36
Speaker 5: bit despite what was said in the off season, and
1:01:41
Speaker 5: do what it takes to try to keep this pick
1:01:43
Speaker 5: because it is you know, it does raise the ceiling
1:01:46
Speaker 5: of the team a lot to have a pick in
1:01:49
Speaker 5: this lottery, because you know, this is fun and nice
1:01:53
Speaker 5: if you kind of put it all together with this roster,
1:01:55
Speaker 5: but no one really believes it can be championship competitive.
1:01:58
Speaker 5: It clearly does need, you know, a top level All Star,
1:02:02
Speaker 5: All NBA caliber player to be really compete, you know,
1:02:06
Speaker 5: for a championship.
1:02:07
Speaker 3: Well, we talked a lot last year about who on
1:02:10
Speaker 3: the roster now is part of a future cores that
1:02:13
Speaker 3: can actually compete for something. And you know, Keyante George
1:02:17
Speaker 3: has obviously played himself into a situation where I think
1:02:20
Speaker 3: you have to acknowledge that he should be there. And
1:02:24
Speaker 3: I don't know if it changes people's calculus on well,
1:02:26
Speaker 3: let's get even younger, and maybe that means your commitment
1:02:29
Speaker 3: to Lowry is a little bit different. Obviously, Walker Kessler's
1:02:32
Speaker 3: been hurt all year, but they think very highly of him.
1:02:35
Speaker 3: So if you're looking to the future and hopefully keeping
1:02:41
Speaker 3: that lottery pick and you're like, Okay, well we have
1:02:43
Speaker 3: this core.
1:02:44
Speaker 2: Who is that core?
1:02:45
Speaker 6: Now?
1:02:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, the core is Lowry Walker, a fan keyte and
1:02:51
Speaker 5: that's been made clear to me, you know, by the
1:02:54
Speaker 5: front office and the coaching staff, and like that is
1:02:57
Speaker 5: kind of who they're considering as their core for know, yeah,
1:03:00
Speaker 5: you're hoping for development from the likes of Price sens Bond,
1:03:03
Speaker 5: Cody Williams and Taylor Hendrix and Isaiah Collier. But those
1:03:07
Speaker 5: four guys that I named earlier are the core they are,
1:03:11
Speaker 5: and then they're looking for, Okay, who is the fifth
1:03:14
Speaker 5: piece that kind of makes sense next to them? And
1:03:16
Speaker 5: you know, you look at the strengths and weaknesses of
1:03:18
Speaker 5: the team and it's probably you need someone who can defend,
1:03:21
Speaker 5: probably defend the opponent's best player, you know, probably a guard,
1:03:27
Speaker 5: probably a wing player, you know, someone with length. And
1:03:30
Speaker 5: you know, there's hope that maybe Taylor Hendricks or Cody
1:03:33
Speaker 5: Williams can become that, but probably not and it probably
1:03:36
Speaker 5: means a new acquisition. So but yeah, like that's the
1:03:40
Speaker 5: core they have a core for in mind, and obviously
1:03:43
Speaker 5: you'd like to see more development from Ace. You want
1:03:45
Speaker 5: to see Walker get through a season healthy and so on.
1:03:47
Speaker 5: But like that does seem to make sense as a
1:03:50
Speaker 5: core that can play off one another.
1:03:52
Speaker 3: Pretty well, We're we're pretty far into the Ace Bailey
1:03:57
Speaker 3: rookie year now.
1:03:58
Speaker 2: He had a career high twenty five points.
1:04:00
Speaker 3: He posterized Victor Webbinyama, which for me means he's a
1:04:04
Speaker 3: better player than Victor Webbin Yama. That's how I'm going
1:04:06
Speaker 3: to calculate this moving forward. But in all seriousness, Ace Bailey,
1:04:11
Speaker 3: I think it's been really cool to see how he
1:04:14
Speaker 3: is fitting into this team, especially after all of the
1:04:17
Speaker 3: reporting around the start of it, and you know, he
1:04:20
Speaker 3: doesn't want to go this place and he's going to
1:04:22
Speaker 3: hold out if this team drafts him, and all that
1:04:25
Speaker 3: is just water so far under the bridge now, and
1:04:28
Speaker 3: seems like the kid genuinely enjoys what he's doing and
1:04:30
Speaker 3: works hard and his development has been fun to watch.
1:04:33
Speaker 3: Is it on pace with what this Jazz team expected
1:04:35
Speaker 3: and needed from him?
1:04:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, He's a good kid and was just I think
1:04:40
Speaker 5: hurt so much by his former manager, Omark Cooper, who.
1:04:43
Speaker 6: He fired over the summer.
1:04:44
Speaker 5: Right, So, I thought that move showed a lot of maturity,
1:04:49
Speaker 5: you know, he is it's kind of a different player
1:04:52
Speaker 5: than I think a lot a lot of fans are
1:04:53
Speaker 5: expected coming out of the draft where he has just
1:04:57
Speaker 5: kind of been a part of Utah's offensive system, but
1:04:59
Speaker 5: not you know, he's not taking too many shots, he's
1:05:02
Speaker 5: not taking a lot of like mid range pull ups.
1:05:05
Speaker 5: He's not kind of stopping the offense in order to
1:05:07
Speaker 5: get his He's a part of kind of what the
1:05:09
Speaker 5: Jazz offensive scheme is.
1:05:10
Speaker 6: Right Like, he's in.
1:05:11
Speaker 5: The corner for a lot of possessions. Sometimes he comes
1:05:14
Speaker 5: off of pick and rolls, but a lot of it's
1:05:16
Speaker 5: like cuts and putbacks and getting out in transition. And
1:05:20
Speaker 5: I think that's what we saw last night. You know,
1:05:21
Speaker 5: Will Hardy complimented the variety of baskets he scored on
1:05:25
Speaker 5: the way to twenty five, So, you know, I think
1:05:28
Speaker 5: that's really encouraging. Is you know, he's not going to
1:05:31
Speaker 5: be a system breaking kind of player. He's going to
1:05:34
Speaker 5: be someone who's additive to what you're doing. And there's
1:05:37
Speaker 5: still a long way to go. He needs to, you know,
1:05:39
Speaker 5: absolutely raise the focus on the defensive end. I think
1:05:42
Speaker 5: he tries sometimes but can get back to it pretty easily.
1:05:46
Speaker 5: But it's you know, it's as encouraging the numbers are
1:05:51
Speaker 5: not that encouraging. You know, it's not like star level
1:05:53
Speaker 5: production in his rookie season like you see from Cooper
1:05:56
Speaker 5: Flag or koon K Nipple or one of those guys.
1:05:58
Speaker 5: But it is team first play and that's that's really
1:06:03
Speaker 5: cool to see, given kind of what the concerns on
1:06:06
Speaker 5: him were coming out of the draft.
1:06:08
Speaker 3: Andy Larson, our guest here on the Shot O'Connell show,
1:06:10
Speaker 3: Utah Jazz, an NBA insider over at the Salt Lake Tribune.
1:06:15
Speaker 2: What does the NBA say think?
1:06:17
Speaker 3: What are what are the behind the scenes conversations like
1:06:21
Speaker 3: about this gray area that players and n C doable
1:06:25
Speaker 3: A teams are now operating in where you've got guys
1:06:28
Speaker 3: that have pro contracts, it doesn't work out and then
1:06:32
Speaker 3: they bounce back into the n C double A. I mean,
1:06:34
Speaker 3: we've we've talked about this a lot from the college perspective,
1:06:38
Speaker 3: but what does the NBA think of this? You've got
1:06:42
Speaker 3: a lawsuit with this Charles Bidiaco guy who is trying
1:06:46
Speaker 3: to get back to college basketball after being in the
1:06:49
Speaker 3: G League for three years and signing two way contracts
1:06:52
Speaker 3: in the NBA.
1:06:53
Speaker 2: Does the league care about this?
1:06:57
Speaker 5: I don't think the NBA cares about this because it
1:07:00
Speaker 5: is like G league guys, as guys who have fallen
1:07:04
Speaker 5: out of the NBA who are trying to go back
1:07:05
Speaker 5: to college. Right, like the new Bau kid, what's Abdullah
1:07:11
Speaker 5: I forget his last name, but you know Abdullah Met
1:07:15
Speaker 5: I believe, yeah, he's he's you know, was the guy
1:07:20
Speaker 5: who played for the Westchester next coming off the bench.
1:07:23
Speaker 5: The NBA as the league is not worried about like
1:07:25
Speaker 5: minor league bench guys. Right, James Nagy, who was drafted,
1:07:30
Speaker 5: you know, in the second round going back to college,
1:07:33
Speaker 5: I don't think is that concerning because he.
1:07:35
Speaker 6: Fell out of the league.
1:07:36
Speaker 5: So yeah, you know, I think it's mostly an issue
1:07:39
Speaker 5: that kind of college basketball has to figure out. It's
1:07:41
Speaker 5: been interesting how bad James Nagy has been in college
1:07:44
Speaker 5: quite frankly, like he's averaging two points a game and
1:07:46
Speaker 5: has not been good. But you know, will that change?
1:07:52
Speaker 5: I think kind of one interesting way that I see
1:07:55
Speaker 5: this unfolding is the bottom of the first round and
1:07:58
Speaker 5: top of the second round is to get a lot
1:08:00
Speaker 5: worse for teams, you know, as guys like you know,
1:08:05
Speaker 5: Richie Saunders, for example, debate should I make three million
1:08:09
Speaker 5: dollars a year in nil or should I go to
1:08:11
Speaker 5: the NBA and make you know, one million dollars on
1:08:14
Speaker 5: my rookie contract. It may be the best choice for
1:08:16
Speaker 5: them financially to stay in college, and that means that
1:08:20
Speaker 5: you probably get fewer nineteen year olds in the league,
1:08:24
Speaker 5: which may actually raise the product overall in the NBA.
1:08:28
Speaker 5: Right If you're getting more twenty one and twenty two
1:08:30
Speaker 5: year olds junior seniors than you used to than you know,
1:08:33
Speaker 5: we've seen over the last twenty years, that might actually
1:08:37
Speaker 5: be a good thing for the league. So, you know,
1:08:39
Speaker 5: they have not stepped in any way. I don't think
1:08:41
Speaker 5: they will unless something changes, But there's there's some pros
1:08:45
Speaker 5: and cons from a from an NBA point of view,
1:08:47
Speaker 5: for sure.
1:08:50
Speaker 3: Are any of the Jazz opponents potentially going to be
1:08:53
Speaker 3: affected by this this winter storm that is going to
1:08:58
Speaker 3: take over the eastern half of the United States? Are
1:09:01
Speaker 3: their contingency plans in place in case somebody can't? I
1:09:03
Speaker 3: haven't looked where everyone's coming from on their way to
1:09:06
Speaker 3: Salt Lake City or anything like that. But is this
1:09:08
Speaker 3: something that the Jazz have to worry about?
1:09:11
Speaker 5: You know, that's a good question. They have changed the
1:09:14
Speaker 5: start time for one game on the East Coast. Miami
1:09:18
Speaker 5: is coming into play tomorrow. I would imagine given the
1:09:22
Speaker 5: timing of that, they'll fly in today.
1:09:25
Speaker 9: I should check with.
1:09:27
Speaker 5: Miami's staff and see if everything goes well there. But
1:09:30
Speaker 5: I assume the timing works out there.
1:09:32
Speaker 2: Maybe they don't get home.
1:09:34
Speaker 6: I don't know what Miami's.
1:09:35
Speaker 5: Next game is, so that's yeah, again, I just need
1:09:38
Speaker 5: to see what works out for them. I'm guessing if
1:09:40
Speaker 5: they're coming out of the way out to you thought,
1:09:41
Speaker 5: usually the NBA schedule works that they're going to Phoenix
1:09:44
Speaker 5: or Denver or Portland or wherever next. But yeah, it
1:09:48
Speaker 5: certainly is a big deal for teams in the Eastern Conference.
1:09:52
Speaker 5: After the Jazz play the Heat, then they play the Clippers,
1:09:54
Speaker 5: obviously that's not a concern. That's actually a national TV
1:09:56
Speaker 5: game as well. Then they play the Warriors, obviously not
1:09:59
Speaker 5: a concern, and then Brooklyn not until next Friday.
1:10:02
Speaker 6: After you know, the storm probably is figured out.
1:10:04
Speaker 5: So I don't think it's going to be a Jazz issue.
1:10:08
Speaker 5: I think there could be some scheduling issues for the
1:10:10
Speaker 5: you know, kind of Southeast teams in over the next
1:10:15
Speaker 5: few days, but I don't think that will ripple effect
1:10:18
Speaker 5: out to the Jazz.
1:10:20
Speaker 3: I put a pole question out the other day in
1:10:23
Speaker 3: response to an email and a tweet and a couple
1:10:28
Speaker 3: of text messages I got about Miller Sports Entertainment, new
1:10:31
Speaker 3: owners of Utah Royals FC, and the Real Salt Lake
1:10:34
Speaker 3: brands kind of doing a survey on you know, their brand, impact,
1:10:39
Speaker 3: awareness and things like that in the community.
1:10:41
Speaker 2: I know you've seen this.
1:10:42
Speaker 3: My pole question was, would you support a rebrand or
1:10:45
Speaker 3: rename of Real Salt Lake.
1:10:48
Speaker 2: I got about five hundred votes.
1:10:49
Speaker 3: Sixty two percent of people say no, just under thirty
1:10:53
Speaker 3: eight percent say yes they would support that. Where does
1:10:56
Speaker 3: Andy Blarsan stand on this front?
1:10:59
Speaker 5: I'm I'm pretty anti changing the name. Look Ray also
1:11:03
Speaker 5: like the goofy name, just like Utah Jazz is right,
1:11:06
Speaker 5: like for sure, no doubt about it. I think we
1:11:10
Speaker 5: should like, I think we should a embrace the fact
1:11:13
Speaker 5: that this is a team that has won a championship
1:11:16
Speaker 5: and embrace the fact that this is a name that
1:11:18
Speaker 5: the fans have, you know, rallied around for twenty two years.
1:11:22
Speaker 5: I think you know, if you rebrand, there's a lot
1:11:26
Speaker 5: of really bad ways that can go, even if you
1:11:28
Speaker 5: think that you are smart and can avoid the Ryan
1:11:31
Speaker 5: Smith turning jazz into yellow stuff. It can still go
1:11:36
Speaker 5: really badly. I don't want Utah United or a Utah
1:11:41
Speaker 5: sc like, come on now, It's just I don't like
1:11:46
Speaker 5: any of the possibilities. I look, it's obviously it's a
1:11:51
Speaker 5: goofy name, but like's it's what we call the soccer team.
1:11:54
Speaker 5: This is who we are. This is you know, we
1:11:57
Speaker 5: have chance and all this kind of history and culture
1:12:00
Speaker 5: built up around what this name is. And so I
1:12:05
Speaker 5: hate this idea that the Millers are coming into RFL
1:12:09
Speaker 5: and instead of investing in the product on the pitch,
1:12:12
Speaker 5: which has been abysmal, they are trying to figure out
1:12:15
Speaker 5: if their fans want to change the team name, like
1:12:16
Speaker 5: focus on what matters. And look, I get that they're
1:12:19
Speaker 5: signing a completely average midfielder today, but it's I'm as
1:12:24
Speaker 5: an RSL fan, I their priorities are in the wrong place,
1:12:27
Speaker 5: and I'm I'm pretty annoyed about it.
1:12:30
Speaker 3: You're an actual soccer fan, right, You're a real soccer fan.
1:12:32
Speaker 9: Yeah?
1:12:33
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have RSL season tickets. I watch I watch
1:12:35
Speaker 5: a ton of soccer.
1:12:36
Speaker 3: Yes, Uh, do you have any World Cup plans? With
1:12:40
Speaker 3: the World Cup coming to North America?
1:12:43
Speaker 5: So I went to the Brazil World Cup, what is
1:12:46
Speaker 5: almost ten years ago now and more than ten years.
1:12:49
Speaker 3: Ago now, that's a that's a flex okay, fancy.
1:12:53
Speaker 5: And it was awesome. And so I spent six thousand dollars.
1:12:57
Speaker 5: I saved up like two hundred dollars a month when
1:12:59
Speaker 5: I was in college and working my my quick like
1:13:02
Speaker 5: real estate job after college, and yeah, paid six thousand
1:13:06
Speaker 5: dollars a month to go on this flight with the
1:13:08
Speaker 5: American Outlaws, the US supporters group to Brazil for all
1:13:11
Speaker 5: the US games, and it ruled. We stayed in Brazil
1:13:14
Speaker 5: for two weeks on the beach in Na Taal. We
1:13:16
Speaker 5: got flown to them in now's in the rainforest to
1:13:18
Speaker 5: see them play like it was. It was sick. It
1:13:23
Speaker 5: is like maybe more expensive to watch this World Cup.
1:13:28
Speaker 6: In the in the US.
1:13:30
Speaker 5: It is harder to get tickets. It is hard to
1:13:33
Speaker 5: flight at Kansas City.
1:13:35
Speaker 6: It is crazy.
1:13:36
Speaker 5: So I would love to go to some of these games,
1:13:38
Speaker 5: and you know, and I expect something will work out
1:13:41
Speaker 5: so that I can, but like it's it's hard logistically
1:13:45
Speaker 5: to figure out how to make this work. So I
1:13:49
Speaker 5: hope to, but I don't know what I'm doing at
1:13:51
Speaker 5: this point, Like it is because these tickets are just
1:13:54
Speaker 5: thousands of dollars to go to you know, the forty
1:13:59
Speaker 5: nine Ers stadium or what, and.
1:14:03
Speaker 3: You'll tear attendon after you go there. You'll because of
1:14:07
Speaker 3: the power substation.
1:14:10
Speaker 5: The electrical substations are are going to get us.
1:14:14
Speaker 2: All yeah, no one, no one is.
1:14:17
Speaker 3: No one's taking a look at what kind of effect
1:14:19
Speaker 3: these things have on the fans, all right, Like how
1:14:21
Speaker 3: many how many forty nine Ers fans walking up to
1:14:24
Speaker 3: their seat in row thirty six have blown out a knee?
1:14:27
Speaker 2: We need to take a look at this.
1:14:30
Speaker 5: The stats are clear that electricity is bad for us.
1:14:33
Speaker 9: Yeah. I think this is the funniest.
1:14:36
Speaker 5: This is the funniest like conspiracy theory I've seen on
1:14:39
Speaker 5: the internet in a long time, because like, yeah, man,
1:14:41
Speaker 5: we've got electricity now.
1:14:42
Speaker 3: I don't know what to say about it. Anyway, here's
1:14:45
Speaker 3: my big problem with it is now the players are
1:14:47
Speaker 3: starting to pay enough attention to it that the Niners
1:14:50
Speaker 3: are launching some investigation into it, and it's just it
1:14:54
Speaker 3: is a lose lose for the organization. And that's my
1:14:57
Speaker 3: favorite pro sports team in existence. If you find some
1:15:02
Speaker 3: ethereal link between tendon injuries and the electric field on
1:15:08
Speaker 3: somebody's guse meter. Then you get sued by everybody who
1:15:11
Speaker 3: ever played for you. And if you come back and
1:15:13
Speaker 3: you say, no, we studied it and everything's fine, then
1:15:16
Speaker 3: everyone thinks you're suppressing information and that you're lying about it.
1:15:19
Speaker 2: So it's just a lose lose for them.
1:15:24
Speaker 5: My hope is somehow this goes back to them going
1:15:27
Speaker 5: back to Candlestick Park, Like just while saying it, we
1:15:30
Speaker 5: got a sudden Levi stadium.
1:15:32
Speaker 2: Now it's all. It doesn't exist anymore. It's gone.
1:15:35
Speaker 5: You got to build a new one on the spot
1:15:37
Speaker 5: of Candlesticks.
1:15:38
Speaker 2: That's perfect. I think there's apartments there now. But that's fine,
1:15:41
Speaker 2: we'll do it.
1:15:43
Speaker 3: James said, you might have a grievance you want to
1:15:45
Speaker 3: air because it's we're an hour early, but because you
1:15:48
Speaker 3: are kind of have to give us some time.
1:15:49
Speaker 2: Is there a grievance you'd like to air?
1:15:51
Speaker 5: I thought, James, I thought my grievance would be the
1:15:54
Speaker 5: ars all name thing. Yeah, yeah, I don't know that
1:15:57
Speaker 5: I got anything else.
1:15:59
Speaker 3: Well guess what, I support renaming the team, So now
1:16:02
Speaker 3: your grievance can be with me.
1:16:04
Speaker 5: Oh that's that's a good one. Yeah, Okay, Sean O'Connell
1:16:07
Speaker 5: on my you know, on my hit list. The level
1:16:13
Speaker 5: to which you would be a bad enemy to pick
1:16:15
Speaker 5: for me is extremely You literally won a million dollars
1:16:19
Speaker 5: fighting Mma.
1:16:20
Speaker 6: I am a huge nerd.
1:16:22
Speaker 5: I would, I would, I should not.
1:16:24
Speaker 6: Pick fights with you.
1:16:25
Speaker 2: Hey, look, nerds run the world.
1:16:26
Speaker 6: Man.
1:16:26
Speaker 3: You got a lot more power than I do, and
1:16:28
Speaker 3: I'm totally on board with it. I'll try to be
1:16:31
Speaker 3: an honorary nerd on some things.
1:16:35
Speaker 5: I think that's true just by having me on the show,
1:16:37
Speaker 5: like you're you're extending me alive branch, you know, nerd
1:16:40
Speaker 5: by association.
1:16:41
Speaker 2: I'll take it. It's good enough for me.
1:16:42
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, Andy, I appreciate your time as always.
1:16:45
Speaker 2: Have a good weekend.
1:16:47
Speaker 5: Thanks Mania.
1:16:49
Speaker 2: Andy B.
1:16:49
Speaker 3: Larson affectionately referred to by me as Andy Blarson because
1:16:55
Speaker 3: you know that's what his Twitter is, Andy B.
1:16:57
Speaker 2: Larson, Andy Blarson. Go follow him.
1:16:59
Speaker 3: He does great work on the Jazz, the NBA, on
1:17:02
Speaker 3: his data column as well for the Salt Lake Tribune.
1:17:06
Speaker 4: He told me before we got him on on our
1:17:09
Speaker 4: a little quick chat on the phone. He even though
1:17:13
Speaker 4: he says he's all for keeping the name the heritage
1:17:18
Speaker 4: that they've built over twenty two years. Even though it's wonky,
1:17:22
Speaker 4: he is also on board with the idea. If you're
1:17:25
Speaker 4: going to change it, why not salt AIRFC there you
1:17:27
Speaker 4: go try to sink guys.
1:17:29
Speaker 2: By the way, how cool is it he that.
1:17:34
Speaker 3: Supporters trip that he talked about for the Brazilian World
1:17:36
Speaker 3: Cup six thousand dollars and you get to go to
1:17:40
Speaker 3: multiple games and have multiple flights inside Brazil. That's still
1:17:43
Speaker 3: a lot of money, especially for a guy in his
1:17:46
Speaker 3: age category at that time where he's saving up that
1:17:48
Speaker 3: money through college. It's a ton, but you know, you
1:17:50
Speaker 3: don't have a wife and kids and probably a mortgage
1:17:53
Speaker 3: that you got to spend that money on and imagine
1:17:56
Speaker 3: the memories. However, he also astutely pointed out that you
1:17:59
Speaker 3: cannot pull that off for the North American World Cup.
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Speaker 3: You you will lose your mind when I tell you
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Speaker 3: just had Andy Larson on. We were talking about the
1:18:56
Speaker 3: soccer stuff. Could Real Salt Lake potentially rename? He is
1:19:00
Speaker 3: not a supporter that. He is a veteran of the
1:19:03
Speaker 3: World Cup. He's been to World Cup games. The World
1:19:05
Speaker 3: Cup is coming to North America this summer. James take
1:19:11
Speaker 3: a wild guess on the secondary ticket market. What the
1:19:16
Speaker 3: price of a VIP ticket to the final is listed
1:19:22
Speaker 3: at right now? Now, I don't know how you could
1:19:24
Speaker 3: be listing these yet because they haven't efficient, Like, nobody
1:19:28
Speaker 3: actually has these yet, right, I don't think anyone actually
1:19:32
Speaker 3: owns their tickets. Yes, I think they go on sale
1:19:34
Speaker 3: in four weeks if I'm not mistaken, But in theory, yeah,
1:19:39
Speaker 3: so if your hypothetical ticket to the final, how much
1:19:45
Speaker 3: do you think that would cost VIP ticket?
1:19:48
Speaker 6: I don't know.
1:19:48
Speaker 3: Fifteen thousand dollars, James. If you want to go to
1:19:53
Speaker 3: Team USA's first match of the tournament versus Paragua on
1:20:00
Speaker 3: June twelfth, it's gonna cost you fifteen grand Oh my gosh.
1:20:04
Speaker 4: So the final let me get okay now that I
1:20:07
Speaker 4: know that, I mean, I nailed the opener.
1:20:09
Speaker 2: This is a VIP. This is a VIP ticket.
1:20:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, nailed the opener, So you didn't even ask me
1:20:14
Speaker 4: that extra credit there?
1:20:16
Speaker 3: Final? Dang, that's for the opener. A ticket to the
1:20:19
Speaker 3: five thousand is being listed as for two hundred and
1:20:23
Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars on the official FIFA marketplace. That's terrible
1:20:29
Speaker 3: that it's just ridiculous. Now, there's no way that this
1:20:34
Speaker 3: can be sustainable. There's no way that this can hold fast.
1:20:38
Speaker 3: This is people getting excited I think early. So if
1:20:41
Speaker 3: you want to go to Mexico versus South Africa, I'm
1:20:44
Speaker 3: on stub Hub right now rather than the official Again,
1:20:48
Speaker 3: I don't know how people are selling these tickets yet.
1:20:50
Speaker 2: Front row ticket for this.
1:20:51
Speaker 3: This is a June eleventh matchup in Mexico City, twenty
1:20:57
Speaker 3: three thousand dollars for a front row ticket. You want
1:21:01
Speaker 3: to sit in the very top of the stadium. I'm
1:21:03
Speaker 3: talking like way way up there. When Mexico takes on
1:21:06
Speaker 3: South Africa, it's going to cost you sixty eight hundred dollars.
1:21:12
Speaker 2: Holy cow.
1:21:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, wait, more than the CFP National Championship.
1:21:16
Speaker 2: Game, a Category three ticket.
1:21:19
Speaker 3: The get in price for this game June eleventh, Mexico
1:21:24
Speaker 3: South Africa in Mexico City thirty two hundred dollars for
1:21:27
Speaker 3: the cheapest ticket in the in the building. Let's compare
1:21:30
Speaker 3: this to this super Bowl because obviously that's been the biggest,
1:21:34
Speaker 3: the hottest ticket in North American sports. Right now, the
1:21:38
Speaker 3: United States Paraguay June twelfth at SOFI Stadium, the get
1:21:42
Speaker 3: in price is much much cheaper than a Super Bowl. Okay,
1:21:45
Speaker 3: is much cheaper than the CFP National Championship game. Just
1:21:50
Speaker 3: under fifteen hundred dollars fourteen eighty seven for a top
1:21:54
Speaker 3: row back section ticket to that that game.
1:21:58
Speaker 4: So andy when he said, is his entire trip costs
1:22:02
Speaker 4: six thousand dollars. In twenty fourteen, when he was a
1:22:05
Speaker 4: college student, went with the American Outlaws team USA US
1:22:10
Speaker 4: Men's national team supporters group to Brazil, six thousand dollars
1:22:16
Speaker 4: the ticket, one ticket for fifteen hundred to get just
1:22:20
Speaker 4: the lowest price you can get in La Inglewood, California,
1:22:24
Speaker 4: it'd be exact. You get that, that's gonna cost that's
1:22:29
Speaker 4: fifteen hundred, that's gonna that trip's gonna cost you, like
1:22:33
Speaker 4: at least that trip's ten grand.
1:22:36
Speaker 2: Trips.
1:22:36
Speaker 3: Well, just it's just you're just paying for you and
1:22:40
Speaker 3: you want to get a flight, and you want to
1:22:41
Speaker 3: get a hotel or an Airbnb or something. You could
1:22:44
Speaker 3: probably get away with going to that one game in
1:22:46
Speaker 3: a crappy seat for like thirty five hundred bucks. Yeah,
1:22:50
Speaker 3: three thousand bucks. I'm thinking of fancy folks. If you're
1:22:53
Speaker 3: talking about, well, fancy folks ain't sitting in the upper deck.
1:22:57
Speaker 3: If you're talking about wanting to be in the lower bowl.
1:23:02
Speaker 3: Lower bowl tickets are at least eight thousand dollars.
1:23:05
Speaker 4: So your per seat, James, you're going over ten grand
1:23:10
Speaker 4: for your trip. And I'm sure I'm sure Andy's seats
1:23:14
Speaker 4: were not. He didn't tell us where they were in
1:23:17
Speaker 4: the in the stadium for his World Cup trip, but
1:23:20
Speaker 4: part of the supporters group, they're probably probably good dog
1:23:23
Speaker 4: very top of the stadium, right, and yeah, that's crazy.
1:23:26
Speaker 3: Okay, what if you just want to I mean that's
1:23:28
Speaker 3: to watch Mexico in Mexico or to watch Team USA
1:23:31
Speaker 3: in the USA. What if you just want to say
1:23:34
Speaker 3: I went to a World Cup game. I did this
1:23:37
Speaker 3: with the Rugby World Cup. I just want to go
1:23:39
Speaker 3: watch a match at the Rugby World Cup. I did
1:23:41
Speaker 3: this when we were on a PFL trip in France.
1:23:44
Speaker 3: I paid forty five dollars at the door of the
1:23:46
Speaker 3: stadium to watch Uruguay play somebody in Namibia. Okay, the
1:23:52
Speaker 3: two worst teams in the tournament. I went and watched them.
1:23:55
Speaker 3: It was it was great. I loved it. It was fun.
1:23:57
Speaker 3: So just see two random teams and I get to
1:23:59
Speaker 3: say I went to Rugby World Cup. I went to
1:24:01
Speaker 3: Rugby World Cup match. Let's say you want to do
1:24:03
Speaker 3: that at Levi Stadium and watch out for the practice field.
1:24:08
Speaker 2: But Cutter versus Switzerland.
1:24:11
Speaker 3: Okay, the get in price for that game is four
1:24:15
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty one dollars a ticket.
1:24:17
Speaker 2: So if you want to.
1:24:18
Speaker 3: The cheapest World Cup ticket you can find, this is
1:24:21
Speaker 3: pool play.
1:24:22
Speaker 2: These are not elimination games.
1:24:23
Speaker 3: This is not high steak stuff, and this is Qatar
1:24:27
Speaker 3: cutter versus Switzerland, it's going to cost you for one
1:24:30
Speaker 3: ticket four hundred and thirty one dollars.
1:24:33
Speaker 2: And again that is.
1:24:36
Speaker 3: Level four at Levis Stadium, So you've got the lower bowl,
1:24:41
Speaker 3: then you've got kind of that second tier, and then
1:24:45
Speaker 3: only half of the stadium even has the third and
1:24:48
Speaker 3: fourth tier. But you're way up there. You are like
1:24:52
Speaker 3: there are planes buzzing the top of your head. If
1:24:54
Speaker 3: you're that high up in the stadium, it's going to
1:24:56
Speaker 3: cost you four hundred bucks for a no steaks. Like
1:25:00
Speaker 3: if you're from Switzerland and you come to the States, congratulations,
1:25:03
Speaker 3: you got the cheapest ticket in town.
1:25:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, now here's I would probably.
1:25:11
Speaker 4: Do that if I lived in the area that the
1:25:14
Speaker 4: game was taking place, Like go, I'll just I just
1:25:16
Speaker 4: want to go to a World Cup game if there was,
1:25:19
Speaker 4: If there were games, if you're fortunate enough to have
1:25:21
Speaker 4: games at American First Field, that'd be amazing, which'd be
1:25:25
Speaker 4: way too small field. They'd probably put it at Rice
1:25:27
Speaker 4: Cycle Stadium. If if they were to have it in
1:25:29
Speaker 4: Salt Lake City, but it would be America First Field,
1:25:32
Speaker 4: I'd be like, yeah, I don't want to spend the
1:25:34
Speaker 4: money to see Team USA play here, but I'll spend
1:25:37
Speaker 4: the money to see what's the cheapest one. I would
1:25:41
Speaker 4: I'd probably paid a few hundred bucks, As crazy as
1:25:44
Speaker 4: that number sounds, for the for the least stakes game,
1:25:47
Speaker 4: for me personally, and for probably in the whole tournament.
1:25:51
Speaker 4: I would probably I'd probably feel like I could justify
1:25:55
Speaker 4: putting a few hundred bucks down to see a World
1:25:57
Speaker 4: Cup game. I'm not flying somewhere, and then four bucks
1:26:01
Speaker 4: to see that game.
1:26:01
Speaker 3: Let's say you're a Canadian who lives in Toronto and
1:26:05
Speaker 3: you want to go watch Team Canada play in their
1:26:09
Speaker 3: pool play matches at BMO Field in Toronto, Ontario, Toronto,
1:26:14
Speaker 3: as they say.
1:26:15
Speaker 4: Is at the home of the Argonauts. Probably shout out CFL.
1:26:21
Speaker 3: It's gonna cost you forty one thousand US dollars to
1:26:25
Speaker 3: sit on the front row of that game, and then
1:26:27
Speaker 3: Canadian dollars. That's like sixty grand. I mean, the prices
1:26:32
Speaker 3: for this are just disgusting. They are absurd. Like the
1:26:37
Speaker 3: Super Bowl is bad enough, all right, I want I've
1:26:40
Speaker 3: never been to a super Bowl in my lifetime.
1:26:41
Speaker 2: I want to go to a Super Bowl.
1:26:43
Speaker 3: The last time the Niners were in Vegas at the
1:26:46
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, I was like, well, I could drive to
1:26:48
Speaker 3: Vegas for thought about it pretty much for free. I
1:26:51
Speaker 3: could stay with friends in Vegas for free, and that'll
1:26:55
Speaker 3: and the crappiest ticket in the building was fifty.
1:26:58
Speaker 2: Eight hundred dollars.
1:27:00
Speaker 3: And I looked at my wife and my children and
1:27:02
Speaker 3: I were just like, I can't justify not spending that
1:27:05
Speaker 3: money on you guys and spending it on myself. And
1:27:08
Speaker 3: I'm glad because the Niners ended up losing, so it
1:27:10
Speaker 3: would have been money not so well spent for me.
1:27:12
Speaker 4: That's a game, though, I mean, it's great, it would
1:27:15
Speaker 4: have been cool to be to be there, you though
1:27:16
Speaker 4: you would have felt bad, But it.
1:27:18
Speaker 3: Is just bananas that that soccer fans, which, by the way,
1:27:23
Speaker 3: the reason that soccer is the most popular game on
1:27:26
Speaker 3: the planet is because it is the most accessible game
1:27:29
Speaker 3: on the planet from a participation standpoint, and in most
1:27:33
Speaker 3: cases even from a fans standpoint. The reason why people
1:27:36
Speaker 3: in developing countries and first world countries and all countries
1:27:41
Speaker 3: love soccer so much is because it takes a flat
1:27:45
Speaker 3: surface and a ball and a couple of cones or
1:27:48
Speaker 3: a fat kid and a dog that you can make
1:27:50
Speaker 3: sit in one spot, and that's your goal, whatever. It's
1:27:53
Speaker 3: the easiest game to just pick up and play. And
1:27:56
Speaker 3: now the World Cup in North America is pricing out
1:28:00
Speaker 3: every normal human being, even in North America. If you
1:28:04
Speaker 3: want to come from wherever to support your team that
1:28:08
Speaker 3: qualified from South America, from Africa, from Southeast Asia, whatever,
1:28:13
Speaker 3: how can you possibly afford to go to one of
1:28:15
Speaker 3: these games? You're gonna like, it's just absurd. I know
1:28:20
Speaker 3: that FIFA doesn't care, and these games are gonna be
1:28:23
Speaker 3: sold out, and the secondary market is gonna make a
1:28:25
Speaker 3: lot of people a lot of money. And I'm usually
1:28:28
Speaker 3: not that, like, I'm all four capitalism. I'm usually not
1:28:31
Speaker 3: the guy that's like, come on, something has to be
1:28:33
Speaker 3: done here. But when the get in price for a
1:28:38
Speaker 3: game to watch your own country is in the several
1:28:41
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, it's a problem. And I know these are
1:28:45
Speaker 3: luxury things and you're not entitled to watch, but like
1:28:50
Speaker 3: you would like for sporting events to not only be
1:28:53
Speaker 3: accessible to hyper rich people anyway.
1:28:57
Speaker 4: It makes for a better atmosphere too, And like, I
1:29:01
Speaker 4: don't know exactly what it is, but the more corporate
1:29:05
Speaker 4: a crowd is the atmospheres and the more wealthy crowd
1:29:09
Speaker 4: is the atmospheres is typically a lot more mild, a
1:29:12
Speaker 4: lot more tame. But when you let the everyman get
1:29:17
Speaker 4: in there, the more you put in there, it's usually louder.
1:29:20
Speaker 4: It's usually a little more raucous. It's usually a lot
1:29:23
Speaker 4: more entertaining.
1:29:24
Speaker 3: Look no further than Sofi Stadium, regular season NFL games,
1:29:30
Speaker 3: all visiting fans, just a sterile hospital environment in all
1:29:37
Speaker 3: but the most like loyal corners of the fan base
1:29:41
Speaker 3: is there.
1:29:41
Speaker 2: It's dumb, all right.
1:29:43
Speaker 3: Also in the Daily Dump NFL News, the Buffalo Bills
1:29:46
Speaker 3: have an opening now. Their owner Terry Pagoula made that
1:29:50
Speaker 3: opening look not so appealing with his boneheaded comments earlier
1:29:54
Speaker 3: in the week. But they're interviewing a couple of people,
1:29:58
Speaker 3: including Philip Rivers, who was a month ago just uh,
1:30:04
Speaker 3: you know, high school football coach doing his thing, dad
1:30:07
Speaker 3: of ten, living as the normal a life as you
1:30:10
Speaker 3: possibly can post retirement. And then he gets called out
1:30:13
Speaker 3: of retirement and plays a few NFL games and resets
1:30:16
Speaker 3: his clock. And now the Buffalo Bills are interviewing him
1:30:20
Speaker 3: for a head coaching position, not for like a Hey Philip,
1:30:24
Speaker 3: we'd like you to work in our scouting department. Hey,
1:30:26
Speaker 3: we'd like you to help out the front office. They're
1:30:29
Speaker 3: interviewing Philip Rivers for the head coaching position.
1:30:32
Speaker 4: Not even for like, hey, what you want to can
1:30:35
Speaker 4: we interview to be a quarterbacks coach? Like this is
1:30:39
Speaker 4: the coach and all he's done is he's coached high
1:30:42
Speaker 4: school for a few years now.
1:30:45
Speaker 3: Now, Look, I think if you're a good coach, you're
1:30:46
Speaker 3: a good coach at whatever level. I think we're seeing
1:30:49
Speaker 3: that with Joey McGuire. I think we're seeing that with
1:30:52
Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti. I think we're seeing that with a lot
1:30:54
Speaker 3: of these guys. I think we will see it with
1:30:56
Speaker 3: their care as he transitions to.
1:30:58
Speaker 2: We were stack. Absolutely, that's a great, great example.
1:31:00
Speaker 3: I think he's going to do a great job in
1:31:02
Speaker 3: college football as well.
1:31:03
Speaker 2: I think that.
1:31:04
Speaker 3: Look, I think that in the NBA, it's become common
1:31:09
Speaker 3: practice now to take a guy with no coaching experience
1:31:12
Speaker 3: and just say, yeah, you're a great player, you're a
1:31:14
Speaker 3: great locker room guy, you're our head coach. Now, it
1:31:17
Speaker 3: is a wildly different game, and it is a wildly
1:31:20
Speaker 3: different locker room, and it is a wildly different system
1:31:23
Speaker 3: in the NFL. For Philip Rivers to be seriously considered
1:31:27
Speaker 3: as a head coaching candidate when he's never been a
1:31:30
Speaker 3: coach of any kind.
1:31:31
Speaker 2: In the NFL. Is I mean maybe I heard I.
1:31:38
Speaker 3: Heard on the Rich Eisens Show as I was coming in,
1:31:42
Speaker 3: like this could just be like a courtesy call, like
1:31:46
Speaker 3: somebody in the organization is close to him, really likes him, whatever,
1:31:50
Speaker 3: and you're just kicking the tires on it. But that's
1:31:54
Speaker 3: not a serious candidate here.
1:31:56
Speaker 5: I just.
1:31:58
Speaker 3: If the Bills a guy who'd never made it to
1:32:02
Speaker 3: the super Bowl to be the guy who gets you
1:32:04
Speaker 3: to the super Bowl in a job he's never had before,
1:32:08
Speaker 3: that's probably not a good hire. I feel like it's
1:32:11
Speaker 3: borderline malpractice. So see that, And that's that's a strong
1:32:15
Speaker 3: word to say. It's not it's not malpractice.
1:32:17
Speaker 4: Shout out to Sarah Todd like like, uh, the Mavericks trading,
1:32:22
Speaker 4: the Mavericks trading Luka Doncics. But it's that's not It's
1:32:27
Speaker 4: like what I said about the Colts, Mike Colts bringing
1:32:32
Speaker 4: him in his quarterback. It just doesn't strike you as
1:32:34
Speaker 4: a serious move, like you are you serious about this?
1:32:37
Speaker 4: It doesn't feel it doesn't feel that serious in the
1:32:41
Speaker 4: Bills and Terry Pagula Brandon Bean, Josh Allen needs them
1:32:46
Speaker 4: to be serious about this.
1:32:50
Speaker 3: There were rumors that I don't know how much creens
1:32:52
Speaker 3: we give to them, because rumors are just that that
1:32:55
Speaker 3: Josh Allen did not like the way that that whole
1:32:57
Speaker 3: thing went down, and the way the kiyank got thrown
1:33:00
Speaker 3: under the bus, and the way that Pegula was just
1:33:02
Speaker 3: like a little bit erratic and get Josh angry, and
1:33:06
Speaker 3: that maybe Joshi is thinking, all right, it's not gonna
1:33:10
Speaker 3: work out here in Buffalo.
1:33:11
Speaker 2: You just Josh.
1:33:12
Speaker 3: I'll call him Joshi for today. But that Josh Allen
1:33:15
Speaker 3: was like, h not impressed, guys. And if you get
1:33:19
Speaker 3: that guy to sour on your organization, you're screwed in Buffalo.
1:33:24
Speaker 3: And and look, if Josh Allen is the reason why
1:33:27
Speaker 3: Philip Rivers is getting this interview, then I can understand it.
1:33:31
Speaker 3: If for whatever reason, Josh Allen is like he was
1:33:33
Speaker 3: my favorite player growing up. I know he's a great coach.
1:33:37
Speaker 3: I want to I want him to be my guy.
1:33:40
Speaker 3: That and you're catering to Josh Allen. Don't hire him,
1:33:44
Speaker 3: but absolutely bring him into the and be like, hey,
1:33:46
Speaker 3: we we brought him in. He's not quite there yet.
1:33:49
Speaker 3: He's not ready to do this yet. Whatever, And then
1:33:52
Speaker 3: Josh feels like he's being listened to. Then I understand
1:33:54
Speaker 3: this more. Otherwise it's kind of out of nowhere. It's
1:33:57
Speaker 3: a little bit random. That's a good point I hadn't considered.
1:34:00
Speaker 3: And and if you really want to appease Josh Allen,
1:34:03
Speaker 3: you you do this interview and be like, we're gonna work.
1:34:07
Speaker 4: We're considering everything. He's in the he's he's under consideration.
1:34:10
Speaker 4: But then you quietly are like, Philip, why don't you
1:34:13
Speaker 4: be Josh's quarterback coach?
1:34:15
Speaker 2: Yeah? Why not?
1:34:16
Speaker 4: And like that not gonn to hire him as our
1:34:18
Speaker 4: head coach, but we're gonna have him on staff because
1:34:20
Speaker 4: Josh really wants to work with.
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Speaker 3: Doesn't Philip Rivers live in the South right now? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: I think he's in Texas. You're gonna take him to Buffalo,
1:34:28
Speaker 3: New York with his ten kids.
1:34:29
Speaker 4: Well, as Nick Saban says, you can only you only
1:34:33
Speaker 4: people from the South only go to the North to
1:34:34
Speaker 4: get paid. I didn't know we were in Civil War
1:34:36
Speaker 4: times still, Oh ce geez, well, some people would say,
1:34:43
Speaker 4: I guess, yeah.
1:34:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, he lives in Fair Hope, Alabama. Oh Alabama.
1:34:47
Speaker 4: Never mind, I I thought he was a maybe I'm
1:34:50
Speaker 4: just thinking he I thought he grew up in Texas. Maybe,
1:34:53
Speaker 4: But maybe I'm wrong about that too.
1:34:54
Speaker 2: I think you're wrong about that. I think he's like
1:34:56
Speaker 2: a true South guy.
1:34:58
Speaker 3: Also being interviewed by the Buffalo Bills, a man who
1:35:03
Speaker 3: took a took a job like five seconds ago, Mike
1:35:07
Speaker 3: McDaniel apparently interviewing for the head coaching position. Wait why
1:35:12
Speaker 3: not he Yesterday at like seven thirty pm he was
1:35:17
Speaker 3: announced officially as the Chargers offensive coordinator. Yeah, and he's like, ah,
1:35:21
Speaker 3: just kidding, guys, I might be taking the Bills head
1:35:23
Speaker 3: coaching job.
1:35:24
Speaker 5: Now.
1:35:24
Speaker 3: Look, obviously, if you get a head coaching opportunity in
1:35:27
Speaker 3: the NFL and you can beat Josh Allen's head coach,
1:35:31
Speaker 3: you would rather have that, even than being the offensive
1:35:33
Speaker 3: coordinator for somebody like Justin Herbert and working under Jim Harbaugh.
1:35:37
Speaker 3: But it's a it's a weird deal to be like, yes,
1:35:41
Speaker 3: I agreed to this job, I will be there and
1:35:44
Speaker 3: then oh wait I got an interview.
1:35:47
Speaker 4: Hold up, didn't know, didn't like Sean McDermott was still
1:35:51
Speaker 4: the coach when I agreed to this. He wasn't though,
1:35:55
Speaker 4: Also Mike McDaniel from the Bills perspective. Brilliant, offensive mind.
1:35:59
Speaker 4: That seems like a no brainer kind of guy you'd
1:36:02
Speaker 4: want to at least interview when you're when you got
1:36:05
Speaker 4: the quarterback that you have in Josh Allen, you want
1:36:08
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1:36:10
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1:36:13
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Speaker 3: By the way, it kind of ended up sneaking under
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Speaker 3: the radar because nothing happened, but the powers that be
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Speaker 3: in college football the deadline was today to decide whether
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Speaker 3: or not the College Football Playoff would expand for next year,
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Speaker 3: go to sixteen teams, maybe go to fourteen teams, stay
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Speaker 3: at twelve, And the decision has been made that at
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: The reason this is most relevant for our conversations is because,
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Speaker 3: as we touched on with Spence check Its yesterday during Crosstalk,
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Speaker 3: the Big Twelve is considered a one bid league by
1:41:20
Speaker 3: the powers that be. They're not going to unless you
1:41:26
Speaker 3: have a really truly special year, and this year was
1:41:29
Speaker 3: one of those. You're not gonna see anything except for
1:41:33
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve Conference champion in the College Football Playoff,
1:41:37
Speaker 3: and unfortunately, Texas Tech kind of screwed it up for
1:41:40
Speaker 3: everyone by not even scoring any points when they got
1:41:43
Speaker 3: into the College Football Playoff. So anyone who was a
1:41:47
Speaker 3: critic of the Big Twelve Conference, anyone who is a
1:41:49
Speaker 3: detractor of the Big Twelve conference, the SEC and Big Ten.
1:41:53
Speaker 3: Honks out there that are just like these guys can't
1:41:55
Speaker 3: hang with us. All you have to do is you
1:41:57
Speaker 3: have to point out Texas Tech, who was dominant all
1:41:59
Speaker 3: year long in the Big Twelve, and who beat the
1:42:04
Speaker 3: second best team in the Big Twelve in convincing fashion
1:42:07
Speaker 3: twice and beat the third best team in the Big Twelve.
1:42:10
Speaker 3: If you didn't watch the game in pretty convincing fashion,
1:42:14
Speaker 3: everyone who looks at Texas Tech's resume and then saw
1:42:18
Speaker 3: what they did in the College Football Playoff can very
1:42:21
Speaker 3: easily say, don't worry about the Big Twelve, no chance
1:42:24
Speaker 3: did they deserve anything.
1:42:26
Speaker 2: Actually, I mean, the real knock on the.
1:42:28
Speaker 3: Big Twelve right now is that James Madison scored more
1:42:31
Speaker 3: points than you did. Tulane scored more points than you
1:42:35
Speaker 3: did in.
1:42:36
Speaker 4: The College Football Playoff, by the way, James Madison did
1:42:39
Speaker 4: it in a true road game. Two.
1:42:41
Speaker 3: James Madison scored more points in the College Football Playoff
1:42:44
Speaker 3: than like Alabama and in the Texas Tech and who else.
1:42:53
Speaker 3: There were three teams, three Power conference.
1:42:55
Speaker 4: Teams, Alabama, Texas Tech, and Ohon in the semi final.
1:43:03
Speaker 3: Probably someone else, so look and expanded college football playoff formats.
1:43:08
Speaker 3: And that's right, and expanded college football playoff format is
1:43:12
Speaker 3: good for the Big Twelve conference as long as there's
1:43:16
Speaker 3: some level of guarantees. Otherwise it it's gonna have to
1:43:21
Speaker 3: be pull yourself up by your bootstraps, make it undeniable.
1:43:26
Speaker 3: Have a one loss conference runner up like this year.
1:43:31
Speaker 3: It's possible because Texas Tech, who we think is going
1:43:34
Speaker 3: to be a really good team. Again, Texas Tech does
1:43:37
Speaker 3: not have any remarkably tough regular season matchups, at least
1:43:44
Speaker 3: on paper. Right, So let's say that just like this year,
1:43:48
Speaker 3: Texas Tech's the best team in the conference and BYU
1:43:50
Speaker 3: is the second best team in the conference.
1:43:54
Speaker 2: You need for.
1:43:55
Speaker 3: BYU to head into that conference championship game is a
1:43:58
Speaker 3: one loss or undefeated team.
1:44:00
Speaker 4: I mean, I would say probably undefeated. So if and
1:44:04
Speaker 4: when they lose, they only have one loss on their resume.
1:44:06
Speaker 3: Right. I think the thing that really killed BYU this
1:44:09
Speaker 3: year is that they lost twice to the same team.
1:44:12
Speaker 3: So you could easily say, well, we know that one
1:44:15
Speaker 3: team in the Big Twelve is a playoff caliber team
1:44:19
Speaker 3: and that's Texas Tech and BYU. We now have established
1:44:24
Speaker 3: on multiple occasions, is not good enough to hang with
1:44:28
Speaker 3: the playoff caliber team like Texas Tech.
1:44:30
Speaker 2: And that's why it was easy to keep them out.
1:44:32
Speaker 3: If your second loss is to a team that you
1:44:35
Speaker 3: didn't face in the regular season, you could probably do
1:44:38
Speaker 3: some mental gymnastics to get a team in. And they
1:44:42
Speaker 3: did that for Alabama, they did it for they did
1:44:47
Speaker 3: it for the Crimson Tide.
1:44:48
Speaker 2: They're not going to do it for Big twelve teams.
1:44:50
Speaker 3: So that decision to remain at twelve teams is most
1:44:54
Speaker 3: relevant to Utah and is most relevant to BYU and
1:44:58
Speaker 3: to all the other Big twelve teams because you get
1:45:01
Speaker 3: one spot at the table, you're guaranteed your one You're
1:45:04
Speaker 3: gonna get that one spot at the table. But this year,
1:45:08
Speaker 3: you gotta win the conference championship if you want to
1:45:10
Speaker 3: be invited to the College Football Playoff. And I have
1:45:13
Speaker 3: said I don't really have a huge problem with that,
1:45:16
Speaker 3: because it's kind of weird that Miami didn't even play
1:45:21
Speaker 3: in their conference championship game and then ended up in
1:45:23
Speaker 3: the National Championship. It's strange that Ohio State didn't win
1:45:27
Speaker 3: the Big Ten last year but won the National Championship
1:45:29
Speaker 3: Like that's it's odd to me, and that path is
1:45:34
Speaker 3: less direct out of the Big twelve than anywhere else.
1:45:37
Speaker 3: I'm okay with it being that way. Next year it's
1:45:40
Speaker 3: going to be an ACC champ they won't have a
1:45:42
Speaker 3: strange year like they did this year. It'll be It'll
1:45:45
Speaker 3: not be the well Miami was actually in the standings
1:45:50
Speaker 3: because the tiebreakers weren't they like fifth place.
1:45:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the ACC.
1:45:54
Speaker 4: Standings tied for third, but but fifth or maybe even
1:45:58
Speaker 4: tied for second, but fifth place is with how the
1:46:03
Speaker 4: tie breakers shook out. Yeah, I I a side note
1:46:08
Speaker 4: on this. We gotta we gotta make the tie breakers
1:46:11
Speaker 4: a lot less complicated. I think that's the only way
1:46:13
Speaker 4: that Duke made it in last year. And they and
1:46:16
Speaker 4: you know what, to their credit, they didn't just make
1:46:18
Speaker 4: it in. They won the championship game, so so good
1:46:22
Speaker 4: good for them. But like I heard, I believe it
1:46:25
Speaker 4: was Sean jay Rajah with US a little after Conference
1:46:29
Speaker 4: Championship weekend said the American just their tiebreaker is whatever
1:46:35
Speaker 4: the two highest ranked teams by the College Football Playoff Committee,
1:46:40
Speaker 4: and that is I mean, we saw, we saw with
1:46:43
Speaker 4: the ACC they got their best team in for Miami, right,
1:46:51
Speaker 4: it would have been better for the ACC if you
1:46:55
Speaker 4: didn't have Duke as your eventual champion. Absolute and it
1:47:00
Speaker 4: would have been better if Miami had played Virginia and
1:47:03
Speaker 4: won the ACC. And that's how they got in obviously,
1:47:06
Speaker 4: although I mean if you're a hurricanespan, you're just like, well,
1:47:09
Speaker 4: we were able to get in without having to risk
1:47:11
Speaker 4: that game. So in any case, twelve teams will remain
1:47:15
Speaker 4: in the College Football Playoff.
1:47:16
Speaker 2: We'll take a quick break here, we'll come back.
1:47:19
Speaker 3: Ben Carer his movie stand Out, The Ben care Story,
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Speaker 3: real life, true story biopic about one of the finest
1:47:27
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1:47:30
Speaker 3: All American at UVU, three times state champion wrestler at
1:47:33
Speaker 3: Viumont High School. My friend Ben care is now the
1:47:37
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1:47:42
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1:47:46
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1:47:49
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Speaker 3: And I'm very excited about this next conversation because my friend,
1:48:22
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1:48:26
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1:48:28
Speaker 2: We need to wrap our arms around this.
1:48:30
Speaker 3: We need to embrace this for a lot of reasons,
1:48:32
Speaker 3: because American folk style wrestling is on the rise.
1:48:37
Speaker 5: Uh.
1:48:38
Speaker 2: And of course every athlete.
1:48:39
Speaker 3: From our community, when we can make sure that the
1:48:42
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Speaker 3: new movie about my friend, former Wumont Viking, former UVU Wolverine.
1:49:00
Speaker 2: Ben Care. Welcome to the show.
1:49:01
Speaker 9: How are you guys? I'm so excited to be here.
1:49:06
Speaker 9: Let's go before we.
1:49:08
Speaker 3: Get into your story and this movie about your life,
1:49:12
Speaker 3: we talk about the former Corner Canyon. Now we were
1:49:16
Speaker 3: state head football coach Eric Care. Are you guys related?
1:49:19
Speaker 3: Are you distant relations?
1:49:20
Speaker 9: Do you know? You know? Probably back in the days
1:49:24
Speaker 9: of the Vikings in Denmark where we're from. But since
1:49:27
Speaker 9: then we were. It's a distant relation for sure.
1:49:30
Speaker 2: All right.
1:49:31
Speaker 3: I'll just it would be too good of the story
1:49:34
Speaker 3: if one of the great coaches in high school football
1:49:37
Speaker 3: now hopefully college football in our state, and one of
1:49:39
Speaker 3: the great wrestlers in the history of our state, we're
1:49:42
Speaker 3: actually like cousins or something like that. I had my
1:49:44
Speaker 3: fingers crossed for it, and you just ruined it. But
1:49:46
Speaker 3: that's fine, Ben, because we're here to talk about this.
1:49:51
Speaker 2: Man.
1:49:51
Speaker 3: I know you've been doing a whole junket of interviews.
1:49:53
Speaker 3: I know that you've answered a lot of these questions already.
1:49:56
Speaker 3: But a movie about you, about out your life, about
1:50:00
Speaker 3: your trials, about your triumphs. When did the seed get planned?
1:50:05
Speaker 3: When did this thing start? How long is this process taken?
1:50:10
Speaker 9: Brother? It's interesting, right, I think all of us are
1:50:13
Speaker 9: living our own story, and whether that becomes a movie
1:50:17
Speaker 9: or a book or just something that people learn from.
1:50:21
Speaker 9: It started when I was young. But four years ago
1:50:24
Speaker 9: I get a call from TC Christiansen, who's done Colkville
1:50:29
Speaker 9: Miracle fighting Preacher as late as like Raising the Bar
1:50:33
Speaker 9: Alma Richard's story escaped from Germany. He teamed up with
1:50:37
Speaker 9: his son Tanner, who's done a ton of stuff, and
1:50:42
Speaker 9: it's his first time directing, and they bring on iconic
1:50:46
Speaker 9: producer as well, Jared Hess who did Napoleon Dynami notra
1:50:50
Speaker 9: Lebre and now right now he's filming the second Minecraft
1:50:55
Speaker 9: movie in New Zealand. And So when these guys came
1:50:58
Speaker 9: to me and they said, Ben, we want to do
1:51:00
Speaker 9: a movie about you, I was like, come on, now,
1:51:05
Speaker 9: I had been approached before by like the Discovery Channel
1:51:08
Speaker 9: and some other outlets. It didn't feel right, I asked them.
1:51:13
Speaker 9: I said, guys, if you were to do this movie,
1:51:15
Speaker 9: what would it portray because it's about me, right, it's
1:51:20
Speaker 9: this is a legacy play. And they said this and
1:51:23
Speaker 9: this is what This is what absolutely won me over,
1:51:26
Speaker 9: and it felt right. They said, Ben, have you seen
1:51:28
Speaker 9: the movie Wonder And I have the movie Wonders about
1:51:31
Speaker 9: the kid with the facial difference right Owen Wilson and
1:51:34
Speaker 9: Julia Robertson. That movie are phenomenal. They said, imagine that
1:51:39
Speaker 9: little boy Aggie turns into Rocky Balboa and that was it. Brother,
1:51:46
Speaker 9: the Wonder to the Rocky movement. That's what won me over,
1:51:51
Speaker 9: he said. But this is the kicker. Imagine if both
1:51:54
Speaker 9: of those were real stories and that was it. Dude,
1:51:59
Speaker 9: that's how we bring do you stand out? The Ben
1:52:01
Speaker 9: care story.
1:52:03
Speaker 3: And look, it's an incredible story. Now those of us
1:52:06
Speaker 3: I'm my first encounter. By the way, for everyone out
1:52:08
Speaker 3: there listening, my first encounter with Ben Carer was through
1:52:12
Speaker 3: high school wrestling.
1:52:13
Speaker 2: We graduated the same year of high school.
1:52:17
Speaker 3: We were at some tournament up north and you know,
1:52:21
Speaker 3: the Jordan High team that we had a couple of
1:52:24
Speaker 3: really incredible wrestlers, myself not included, but our team goes
1:52:28
Speaker 3: up to this tournament and I that's the first time
1:52:30
Speaker 3: I saw Ben Carer, this short, little fire hydrant of
1:52:35
Speaker 3: a dude that is an absolute monster wrestler. And I
1:52:39
Speaker 3: was like, huh, I wonder what that guy's story is.
1:52:41
Speaker 3: And now we get a movie of it. He became
1:52:44
Speaker 3: eventually you've used first ever wrestling All American. I imagine.
1:52:49
Speaker 3: The film does its best to portray kind of every
1:52:53
Speaker 3: step along the road. But when they came to you,
1:52:56
Speaker 3: and when they were like, all right, this is how
1:52:57
Speaker 3: we're gonna tell I mean, the story he goes all
1:53:00
Speaker 3: the way back to your early childhood, goes back to
1:53:02
Speaker 3: family and things like that.
1:53:05
Speaker 2: How how willing were the people.
1:53:08
Speaker 3: In your life were your you know, your siblings, your parents,
1:53:12
Speaker 3: your coaches, everyone to kind of be part of this
1:53:15
Speaker 3: project and to help tell this story.
1:53:19
Speaker 9: More willing than you would imagine. And that's what makes
1:53:22
Speaker 9: the story of the story. Brother. I remember the producers
1:53:25
Speaker 9: coming in and doing all these interviews and they came
1:53:28
Speaker 9: out and they're like, oh my gosh, this makes sense.
1:53:33
Speaker 9: You have phenomenal people in your corner. And that's it. Brother.
1:53:37
Speaker 9: We all call our shop, we'll shoot for something, we
1:53:40
Speaker 9: all shoot for our aspirations and goals. But it's who
1:53:44
Speaker 9: I call my shot callers, the ones that helped me
1:53:48
Speaker 9: call my shot in my corner. I have a lot
1:53:50
Speaker 9: of good ones. But here's the most important thing. Man.
1:53:54
Speaker 9: There's a huge debate in the basketball in the basketball world,
1:53:57
Speaker 9: who's better Lebron James or Michael Jordan? Who who ever knows?
1:54:00
Speaker 9: But I do know this, more humans connect with Michael
1:54:04
Speaker 9: Jordan than Lebron James. And this is why I bring
1:54:06
Speaker 9: that up, because my story starts from day one. You'll
1:54:10
Speaker 9: see that I'll be a first ever All American and
1:54:13
Speaker 9: world champion, all that stuff, But why do they connect
1:54:18
Speaker 9: with Michael Jordan? Probably over Lebron James because Lebron James
1:54:22
Speaker 9: got in the NBA right out of high school. Michael
1:54:24
Speaker 9: Jordan didn't make the high school team. When you go
1:54:27
Speaker 9: and see the film stand Out, you'll see Ben Care
1:54:30
Speaker 9: get absolutely annihilated and beat up for years. Everyone in
1:54:35
Speaker 9: the games of life. You don't go in being a
1:54:39
Speaker 9: Lebron James and not losing. Everyone in life goes in losing.
1:54:45
Speaker 9: The problem is because we have a fear of failure
1:54:48
Speaker 9: and the fear of not being enough, we stop trying
1:54:52
Speaker 9: stand out. The Ben Care story talks about the people
1:54:56
Speaker 9: who fell and get back up and do it again.
1:55:00
Speaker 9: I call it being disobedient to average. The challenges for
1:55:03
Speaker 9: all listeners out there. Disobey average. Baby. You ain't born
1:55:07
Speaker 9: to be average. You ain't born to fit in. You're
1:55:10
Speaker 9: born to stand out.
1:55:13
Speaker 2: I love that.
1:55:14
Speaker 3: Disobedient to average I printed on a T shirt. Let's
1:55:18
Speaker 3: make that a thing for all of us. Why wrestling, Ben,
1:55:23
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of sports that someone with
1:55:27
Speaker 3: your athleticism can excel in. Right that probably would have
1:55:32
Speaker 3: been easier on your ego, probably would have been easier
1:55:35
Speaker 3: on your body. You'd have to tell me, maybe easier
1:55:38
Speaker 3: on your face and your facial structure. There's a lot
1:55:40
Speaker 3: of sports that you don't have to get beat up,
1:55:43
Speaker 3: and you chose to excel in the hardest one, the
1:55:47
Speaker 3: nastiest one, the most grueling one that doesn't offer a
1:55:50
Speaker 3: whole lot of glory even when you're great at it
1:55:52
Speaker 3: like you were, So why was wrestling the perfect one
1:55:56
Speaker 3: for you?
1:55:58
Speaker 9: Bro? I did everything what my parents did real well.
1:56:01
Speaker 9: They put me in everything just to try to figure
1:56:04
Speaker 9: out where I could find confidence. That is the issue
1:56:08
Speaker 9: today kids, adults that don't have confidence. I don't care
1:56:14
Speaker 9: what you're going through. Confidence is the key. Wrestling gave
1:56:18
Speaker 9: me something that I could control. I love football, I
1:56:21
Speaker 9: love soccer, I love basketball, I love baseball. I played
1:56:24
Speaker 9: them all. But you know what's hard about those sports.
1:56:27
Speaker 9: You can't control the quarterback, you can't control the picture,
1:56:32
Speaker 9: and it affects you. I was so done with stuff
1:56:36
Speaker 9: that I couldn't control, like cruise on syndrome, which is
1:56:38
Speaker 9: what I was born with, which is a facial difference
1:56:41
Speaker 9: where I had to have a ton of reconstructive facer surgeries.
1:56:44
Speaker 9: I was so done with not controlling something. I needed
1:56:47
Speaker 9: a sport that I can control. That was wrestling. I'm
1:56:51
Speaker 9: also just like the smallest dude right. I'm right now.
1:56:54
Speaker 9: I'm forty two years old, five three, one hundred and
1:56:56
Speaker 9: forty pounds, soaking wet. I needed something that I could
1:56:59
Speaker 9: weigh in and guys my height, my size, wrestling did that,
1:57:04
Speaker 9: and so I chose to be disobedient to average. When
1:57:07
Speaker 9: I disobeyed average, it meant this. My coach told me
1:57:10
Speaker 9: to do twenty push ups. I'm like, I ain't. Average.
1:57:13
Speaker 9: Wrestling gives away one medal at the end of the tournament,
1:57:18
Speaker 9: and it doesn't go to the person who does average.
1:57:20
Speaker 9: You better believe when he told me to do twenty
1:57:22
Speaker 9: out of twenty five, I did thirty. And when I
1:57:25
Speaker 9: did that, I gained confidence. And as you gain confidence,
1:57:29
Speaker 9: you learn to win the match before you ever have
1:57:31
Speaker 9: to step on the mat.
1:57:33
Speaker 3: Ben Carre's our guests here on the Shoan O'Connell show.
1:57:36
Speaker 3: The movie about him, about his life, about his triumphs
1:57:39
Speaker 3: in the wrestling world and the trials that he had
1:57:41
Speaker 3: to overcome in order to reach that championship level is
1:57:45
Speaker 3: out today. Don't win a ticket from me, go buy
1:57:50
Speaker 3: a ticket. Support Ben, Support the producers and the directors
1:57:54
Speaker 3: in the studio that brought this inspirational story to life
1:57:57
Speaker 3: on the big screen.
1:57:59
Speaker 2: So far percent rotten tomatoes. All right, I know it's a.
1:58:02
Speaker 3: Limited release right now, but everyone that we've talked to,
1:58:06
Speaker 3: that we've heard from, that we've read about, that has
1:58:09
Speaker 3: seen this movie, it seems like the reception is probably
1:58:13
Speaker 3: what you would hope it is. What have you been
1:58:15
Speaker 3: hearing from the people that have watched it and that
1:58:18
Speaker 3: have reached out to you.
1:58:22
Speaker 9: Brother, coming into this, she didn't know what to expect, right,
1:58:26
Speaker 9: And I remember my producers, Saint Ben, we got one goal.
1:58:33
Speaker 9: That's to make a movie that people want to share
1:58:36
Speaker 9: and come back to again and again and again. And
1:58:39
Speaker 9: so at that point, our goal was to touch every kid.
1:58:42
Speaker 9: It's five years old, to every human it's ninety five
1:58:45
Speaker 9: years old that rolls in on the wheelchair. The other day,
1:58:49
Speaker 9: I was in a screening. I was about ready to
1:58:51
Speaker 9: take the microphone. The credits were rolling as you guys
1:58:53
Speaker 9: watched the film. By the way, don't leave the credits.
1:58:55
Speaker 9: The movie's not done. It's a little surprise. At the end.
1:58:58
Speaker 9: This guy gets up out of his he's about sixty
1:59:00
Speaker 9: five years old. I don't know the guy, and he
1:59:03
Speaker 9: starts walking out of the when the credits are showing,
1:59:06
Speaker 9: and I'm like, hey, it's not done yet, and he
1:59:10
Speaker 9: puts his head up. He grabs my shoulders and he's bawling.
1:59:16
Speaker 9: He said, Ben, I've never laughed so hard and cried
1:59:21
Speaker 9: so much in one movie. Thank you so much. I
1:59:25
Speaker 9: had that from a kid from Wyoming send me a
1:59:29
Speaker 9: video who saw private screening up there, and in his
1:59:33
Speaker 9: own words, as little Wyoming cowboy kid said, that's the
1:59:37
Speaker 9: best thing I've ever saw. And so, brother, I tell
1:59:44
Speaker 9: you what, I am just humbled. I'm blessed. I have
1:59:49
Speaker 9: people in my corner that have taken this story and
1:59:55
Speaker 9: we've told it so raw, so blunt, so bold that
2:00:04
Speaker 9: I don't care if you have a facial difference. I
2:00:06
Speaker 9: don't care if you have cauliflower ears like I do
2:00:09
Speaker 9: from wrestling. Everybody understands challenging times, everybody understands obstacles in life,
2:00:17
Speaker 9: and everybody wants to know how to be victorious. And
2:00:24
Speaker 9: that's what this movie is. It's the recipe of just that.
2:00:30
Speaker 3: Tell me about the young the actor who portrays young
2:00:33
Speaker 3: Ben care in this film.
2:00:38
Speaker 9: Brother, That's how you know, Like sometimes you go into
2:00:40
Speaker 9: these you're like, oh my gosh, is this like, can
2:00:43
Speaker 9: this go bigger than me? And you have you have signs,
2:00:48
Speaker 9: you have things along the way that happen that are
2:00:52
Speaker 9: that are just like moments that make you feel that
2:00:55
Speaker 9: this is way bigger than you. We were within weeks
2:00:57
Speaker 9: of filming, and we search the world, every nonprofit organization,
2:01:01
Speaker 9: facial difference organization. We could not find a younger Ben.
2:01:05
Speaker 9: If cruise on syndrome wasn't enough to be rare enough,
2:01:08
Speaker 9: we couldn't find someone that acted like me. And there
2:01:12
Speaker 9: there were no professional actors like the kid who played Augie.
2:01:15
Speaker 9: I've spoken on stage with him. He's a normal looking kid.
2:01:19
Speaker 9: They had to do crazy, crazy makeup to make him
2:01:22
Speaker 9: look like that in the movie Wonder. I get a
2:01:25
Speaker 9: call or a message on social media from the Filding
2:01:28
Speaker 9: family within weeks before we film, and I get this message, Ben,
2:01:32
Speaker 9: We've been watching you for six months. Come to our
2:01:35
Speaker 9: house for dinner. I want to introduce you to my
2:01:38
Speaker 9: child who has cruise on syndrome. Not thinking too you
2:01:41
Speaker 9: know another thought. We show up. There opens the door,
2:01:48
Speaker 9: the Filling family, Jordan Anneale, credible humans, and there is
2:01:52
Speaker 9: Colton Filding, five years old, blonde hair crews on syndrome,
2:01:58
Speaker 9: bigger energy than life, and in that moment, nervous is
2:02:04
Speaker 9: all get out. I ask his parents if they would
2:02:07
Speaker 9: be open to being a part of this movie. His mom,
2:02:11
Speaker 9: Annalie looks over to the husband Jordan, and emotionally looks
2:02:17
Speaker 9: at him and says, this all makes sense now. She
2:02:22
Speaker 9: looks back at me and she says, Ben, for months,
2:02:24
Speaker 9: we've been trying to get a surgery, whether through insurance
2:02:28
Speaker 9: or help or whatever, we haven't been able to get
2:02:30
Speaker 9: a reconstructive face of surgery booked for him, and he
2:02:33
Speaker 9: needs it. We would absolutely love to do this. We
2:02:38
Speaker 9: go through filming, he absolutely kills it. Right after filming's done,
2:02:42
Speaker 9: he successfully gets admitted to getting his surgery, and now
2:02:46
Speaker 9: he doesn't look the same. The filming would have been different,
2:02:49
Speaker 9: the way he looked would have been different. And brother,
2:02:53
Speaker 9: when you see the film, you'll see this kid shine.
2:02:58
Speaker 9: There's a Culton Filding, there's a Bend Care, There's a
2:03:01
Speaker 9: little Sean in every single seat out there. And our
2:03:06
Speaker 9: goal is to make them feel like they can do
2:03:10
Speaker 9: anything in life. And we're getting that feedback and it
2:03:13
Speaker 9: just it means the world.
2:03:17
Speaker 3: Was there any part of the story, your story that
2:03:22
Speaker 3: you had a hard time being willing to tell. You know,
2:03:25
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of I've seen a lot of
2:03:27
Speaker 3: your speaking. I've seen a lot of the posts that
2:03:29
Speaker 3: go out with the movie and things like that, you know,
2:03:33
Speaker 3: the tear jerker of a story of when you were
2:03:36
Speaker 3: not feeling real good about yourself as a young kid
2:03:38
Speaker 3: and trying to pray away the cruise on syndrome and
2:03:41
Speaker 3: how your mom had to to you know, tell you
2:03:45
Speaker 3: the reasons for these things and bring you back to
2:03:48
Speaker 3: break down to earth a little bit, and tell you
2:03:50
Speaker 3: that you're not meant to blend in and you're supposed
2:03:53
Speaker 3: to stand out. And that's an emotional thing, even for
2:03:55
Speaker 3: someone like me, just to hear you lived it, Ben,
2:03:59
Speaker 3: Was there any part of this that you were reluctant
2:04:02
Speaker 3: to have told?
2:04:06
Speaker 9: Yeah, brother, one of the most difficult things was talking
2:04:15
Speaker 9: about my difficulties as an adult. And I had gotten
2:04:22
Speaker 9: over the confidence I received right through wrestling and being
2:04:25
Speaker 9: a champion wrestler. I had overcome what I thought was
2:04:29
Speaker 9: cruise on syndrome. But I didn't know how to be loved.
2:04:35
Speaker 9: I didn't know if I could ever be loved.
2:04:37
Speaker 5: Bro.
2:04:38
Speaker 9: I didn't know if another woman would. I didn't know
2:04:44
Speaker 9: if someone would be able to love me understanding that
2:04:49
Speaker 9: cruise on syndrome is fifty percent of my genes would
2:04:54
Speaker 9: be potentially having cruise on syndrome. And I found a
2:04:58
Speaker 9: woman that when I I told her, I found a
2:05:00
Speaker 9: woman that when I told her about if you get
2:05:05
Speaker 9: married to me and we have kids, fifty percent chance
2:05:10
Speaker 9: that we will have cruise on syndrome kids. And so
2:05:13
Speaker 9: she went home and she studied it. And I'm like,
2:05:16
Speaker 9: I'm like away from her, how much she's gonna come
2:05:18
Speaker 9: back And she's not gonna She's not gonna accept this,
2:05:22
Speaker 9: and this will be a deal killer for and in life,
2:05:25
Speaker 9: I think we all just want connection. I think we
2:05:27
Speaker 9: all want love. I think we all want to be accepted,
2:05:30
Speaker 9: especially by the one you feel like you love. Right,
2:05:33
Speaker 9: And she was the one I loved la Pole And
2:05:36
Speaker 9: she comes back, she says this, dude, she says, Ben,
2:05:43
Speaker 9: who better to raise kids with cruise on syndrome than
2:05:47
Speaker 9: you and me? And brother, like, oh my gosh, that
2:05:53
Speaker 9: changed my life. A beautiful woman who could have probably
2:05:58
Speaker 9: any guy, and her decide to be her, decided to
2:06:07
Speaker 9: choose me, This cruise on syndrome man who's had people
2:06:13
Speaker 9: in public make fun of him still to this day,
2:06:15
Speaker 9: and her stand up for everything with purpose and say
2:06:21
Speaker 9: your mind and man, when you have someone like that
2:06:23
Speaker 9: in your corner, that's everything.
2:06:28
Speaker 3: That's a beautiful story. That's incredible, and I'm glad it's
2:06:32
Speaker 3: part of your story. You're an inspirational guy. I'm glad
2:06:34
Speaker 3: that this movie is out. I'm glad we have an
2:06:36
Speaker 3: opportunity to see more of the star. I'm gonna I'm
2:06:38
Speaker 3: gonna learn things about you I don't know by watching
2:06:40
Speaker 3: this movie.
2:06:41
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that.
2:06:42
Speaker 3: I love that you gave another young man, a little
2:06:45
Speaker 3: kid with cruise on syndrome, an opportunity to be a
2:06:48
Speaker 3: movie star, because I imagine that's not a very typical thing.
2:06:51
Speaker 3: And what a what a cool spreading the blessings and
2:06:55
Speaker 3: spreading the wealth of the success that you've had. Tell
2:06:59
Speaker 3: me more your parents and your your mom and your
2:07:02
Speaker 3: dad and how they helped you to overcome the challenges
2:07:06
Speaker 3: while you were being raised with I mean, for you,
2:07:08
Speaker 3: it's a facial difference. There's people out there with, you know,
2:07:13
Speaker 3: genetic amputation, there's people out there who have children with
2:07:17
Speaker 3: other birth defects, whatever that you know these kids, they're
2:07:21
Speaker 3: they're in school with our kids, or they are our kids,
2:07:25
Speaker 3: and all of us hope that these young people grow
2:07:29
Speaker 3: up to be Ben Cares, to be triumphant, to overcome
2:07:32
Speaker 3: these challenges and to overcome the difficulties and maybe some
2:07:35
Speaker 3: of the lack of confidence that comes with them. So
2:07:37
Speaker 3: tell me more about the role your parents played in helping.
2:07:41
Speaker 2: You do that.
2:07:44
Speaker 9: The name of the movie happened from one moment. There
2:07:50
Speaker 9: was a time. I'm not going to tell too much
2:07:52
Speaker 9: of the story because it's going to be absolutely so
2:07:55
Speaker 9: well delivered in the film, But there's a moment where
2:07:57
Speaker 9: in the grocery store, in a public space, when I
2:08:01
Speaker 9: was alone picking up what I felt like was my
2:08:03
Speaker 9: favorite candy bar, I got verbally annihilated by an adult.
2:08:09
Speaker 9: I go home and I find myself thinking, Ben, if
2:08:15
Speaker 9: you could just remove your face the difference, you'll be fine,
2:08:22
Speaker 9: life will be better. I go in the bathroom and
2:08:25
Speaker 9: I start thinking of ways to remove my face. Luckily,
2:08:28
Speaker 9: before anything was decided, my mom came breaking in through
2:08:31
Speaker 9: the door, like a good mom does, melted on me.
2:08:35
Speaker 9: We cried together. I told her everything. She stands me
2:08:38
Speaker 9: up in front of the mirror, she says, Ben, you're
2:08:40
Speaker 9: different because you're born to make a difference. And Ben,
2:08:46
Speaker 9: attention's gonna come and people beg for the stuff you
2:08:49
Speaker 9: won't need to because you look different. So in that moment,
2:08:52
Speaker 9: you were not born to fit in. You were born
2:08:57
Speaker 9: to stand out. That's where the title came about. That's
2:09:01
Speaker 9: my mom. God created that woman to come down and
2:09:07
Speaker 9: be my mom. My father knew that wrestling could be
2:09:12
Speaker 9: an absolute foundation for me to build off of, so
2:09:17
Speaker 9: he would take me to these tournaments and just watch
2:09:20
Speaker 9: me get beat up. You'll see it in the film.
2:09:22
Speaker 9: There's a moment where I'm crying on the mat after
2:09:24
Speaker 9: I lose, and he goes and picks me up and
2:09:29
Speaker 9: it helps me to the middle. At the end of
2:09:32
Speaker 9: the tournament, when I was not on the podium because
2:09:34
Speaker 9: I wasn't good, he points to the podium in my
2:09:38
Speaker 9: weight division, whereas everyone was getting their hardware and they're happy,
2:09:41
Speaker 9: and I'm sitting there shulking next to him. He pulls
2:09:46
Speaker 9: my chin up and he points at my chest. He's like, Ben,
2:09:49
Speaker 9: as he points to the podium, you belong on that podium,
2:09:54
Speaker 9: but you gotta do the work. And I'm here to
2:09:58
Speaker 9: come to every single thing you have. I'm your biggest fan.
2:10:04
Speaker 9: My dad before the tournaments would look at me and say,
2:10:07
Speaker 9: you're the champion. You're the one that deserved this. You
2:10:11
Speaker 9: disobey average, Let's go get it. It's people like that
2:10:17
Speaker 9: that believe in you way before you. It's my wife
2:10:20
Speaker 9: that way before I was an All American. Before sleep
2:10:24
Speaker 9: she would nudge me as I'm almost asleep in bed
2:10:27
Speaker 9: and she said, Ben, I forgot to tell you something.
2:10:30
Speaker 9: I'm the luckiest woman to be married to Utah Valley
2:10:33
Speaker 9: University's first future NCAA All American. It's people that speak
2:10:40
Speaker 9: life into your life. It's people that speak dreams into
2:10:43
Speaker 9: your dreams. It's people that go before you and pave
2:10:47
Speaker 9: the way and are there with you in the fight
2:10:51
Speaker 9: during the darkest of moments and believe in you that
2:10:54
Speaker 9: make you achieve. These are the people that stand out
2:10:58
Speaker 9: in my life. Another one that make the move the.
2:11:00
Speaker 3: Movie Are you watching RAF? For people out there who
2:11:07
Speaker 3: don't know Real American Freestyle is right now. It's a
2:11:11
Speaker 3: professional organization for actual Olympic style collegiate style wrestling that's
2:11:17
Speaker 3: new and it's on Fox Nation and it's become a
2:11:21
Speaker 3: kind of a thing that is, uh, I don't know.
2:11:24
Speaker 3: I think it's helping the sport out a lot. Are
2:11:26
Speaker 3: you watching?
2:11:27
Speaker 2: What do you think?
2:11:29
Speaker 9: Of course I'm watching. Come on, man, this is the
2:11:33
Speaker 9: most successful launch they've tried this before. This is the
2:11:36
Speaker 9: most successful launch that they've ever had at what is
2:11:41
Speaker 9: pro Wrestling? And I love it. I love the people
2:11:45
Speaker 9: that are showing up. Nobody in life, it's the same
2:11:49
Speaker 9: with my movie. It's the same with you and what
2:11:51
Speaker 9: you're doing. Nobody in life gets anywhere without people occupying
2:11:56
Speaker 9: the seats and supporting right. I love it. Do I
2:12:01
Speaker 9: have people like the bow Baskets of the World, the
2:12:04
Speaker 9: Clague Widas, like I have the Kid and Henschel's I
2:12:08
Speaker 9: mean the camera Usman's who give me testimonials of my film.
2:12:13
Speaker 9: They're all a part of RAF. I love what they're doing. Brother.
2:12:17
Speaker 9: I think it's so great for the sport. I think
2:12:20
Speaker 9: it's great for the world because more people need to
2:12:23
Speaker 9: know that doing hard things is freaking awesome, and we
2:12:30
Speaker 9: need to applaud doing hard things.
2:12:33
Speaker 3: So when this movie takes off in that that Rotten
2:12:38
Speaker 3: Tomatoes score stays up high even after thousands and millions
2:12:42
Speaker 3: of people have seen it, and RAF makes a phone
2:12:45
Speaker 3: call to Ben Kerr's agent and says, Hey, I know
2:12:49
Speaker 3: he's forty two, but we've had guys that age and
2:12:53
Speaker 3: older on our RAF mats. Tell Ben we want him
2:12:56
Speaker 3: in three months or in six months or a year.
2:12:59
Speaker 3: Will we see you as sleek competitively again potentially?
2:13:03
Speaker 9: Did I competed in the World Championships a year ago?
2:13:06
Speaker 9: Heck yeah. And I've already been in touch without saying
2:13:10
Speaker 9: too much, I've had a couple people that'll be exciting
2:13:16
Speaker 9: when that happens, man, And if it happens, it'll be
2:13:20
Speaker 9: exciting and it'll be fun. And I tell you what,
2:13:25
Speaker 9: here's how I look at it, and then here's how
2:13:27
Speaker 9: I look at life. Because you can never guarantee your winning,
2:13:30
Speaker 9: but you can guarantee how you show up. I had
2:13:32
Speaker 9: a coach tell me one time. He's like, Ben, screw winning,
2:13:36
Speaker 9: screw losing. Here's what I want you to do. Make
2:13:41
Speaker 9: sure that after that match, nobody wants to wrestle, then
2:13:47
Speaker 9: care ever again. And if we go in life with
2:13:50
Speaker 9: that mentality, not fear of failure, not fear of being enough,
2:13:56
Speaker 9: not freezing up because you're afraid that you're gonna lose
2:13:58
Speaker 9: in front of everyone. But then you go out there
2:14:02
Speaker 9: like David against Goliath, and you pick up the stones
2:14:06
Speaker 9: and you spit in Fear's eyes not once, but twice
2:14:09
Speaker 9: because you give them reaction time to make sure that
2:14:11
Speaker 9: you ain't going anywhere. That's how I'm gonna show up, baby,
2:14:15
Speaker 9: And that's what we're doing. We're going against the paramount pictures,
2:14:18
Speaker 9: We're going against the Sony's, We're going against Hollywood, baby,
2:14:22
Speaker 9: and those avatars better watch out, because I'm coming for
2:14:25
Speaker 9: the choke cold and We're going guns blazing. Baby.
2:14:28
Speaker 3: Well, a true story, a real story, one inspirational is
2:14:31
Speaker 3: yours is gonna be a lot more fun to watch. Anyway,
2:14:33
Speaker 3: you can get your tickets stand out. The Ben care
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Speaker 3: Story is out today Megaplex Theaters, Crossroads Cinemark here in Utah.
2:14:41
Speaker 3: Go find yourself a ticket and watch the story of
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Speaker 3: our guy right here, lived, Trained, Lives trains. This is
2:14:50
Speaker 3: a Utah cat that has one of the best stories
2:14:52
Speaker 3: you're ever gonna find, and now there's a movie about
2:14:54
Speaker 3: his life. Ben Carer, my friend, I appreciate your time,
2:14:58
Speaker 3: I appreciate the message you sent, I appreciate the example
2:15:01
Speaker 3: you set. Thanks so much for joining us on the
2:15:04
Speaker 3: show today. I haven't seen the movie yet. I'm gonna
2:15:07
Speaker 3: buy a ticket. I appreciate the invitations to the screenings
2:15:10
Speaker 3: and all that. I'm gonna buy a ticket to support
2:15:12
Speaker 3: and uh, I'll let you know what I think.
2:15:14
Speaker 9: All right, Well, Sean, if people out there want to
2:15:17
Speaker 9: support and they're trying to look where they're at, Guys,
2:15:20
Speaker 9: we're nationwide. We're in theaters from a last all the
2:15:23
Speaker 9: way to Philadelphie in between. If you want to find
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Speaker 9: out if it's close to you, go to standoutfilm dot Com.
2:15:30
Speaker 9: Standoutfilm dot Com. I'm gonna be I have like five
2:15:34
Speaker 9: six screenings that I'm gonna be at today. We have
2:15:36
Speaker 9: people that are showing up for around the world. Today's
2:15:40
Speaker 9: Today one, two three, Standout January twenty third, Sean, you're
2:15:46
Speaker 9: one of those standout humans brothers. Thanks for being in
2:15:49
Speaker 9: my corner.
2:15:50
Speaker 3: Appreciate you. Thank you so much for joining us. Bencare
2:15:54
Speaker 3: standoutfilm dot Com. Go see his movie. Benkair the former
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Speaker 3: UVU wilvering you Mont Viking one of the best wrestlers
2:16:02
Speaker 3: ever from the state of Utah, and we have some
2:16:04
Speaker 3: good ones. Airing of Grievances is next on the Sean
2:16:09
Speaker 3: O'Connell Show. It's Utah's number one sports Talk ESPN seven
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Speaker 3: hundred ninety two one FM.
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Speaker 1: This is the Sean O'Connell Show. You were home of
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Speaker 1: the best inside of your use. Let's get back to
2:16:25
Speaker 1: OC from the Murdoch Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred
2:16:30
Speaker 1: and ninety two to one FM. The tradition of Festivus
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Speaker 1: begins with the airing of grievances.
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Speaker 5: I got a lot of problems.
2:16:38
Speaker 1: With your people.
2:16:39
Speaker 9: Now you've been to hear about it.
2:16:45
Speaker 3: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. That's
2:16:50
Speaker 3: how you get a hold of us for airing of grievances.
2:16:52
Speaker 3: You can also tweet at me at real OC Sports
2:16:55
Speaker 3: love to have you get it off your chest.
2:16:58
Speaker 2: Tell me what's.
2:16:58
Speaker 3: Bothering you, what you want to grieve about, what you
2:17:03
Speaker 3: want to gripe about, what you don't like eight seven
2:17:14
Speaker 3: seven three five three zero seven hundred. If you don't
2:17:16
Speaker 3: have plans this weekend, I'm gonna make them for you
2:17:19
Speaker 3: right now. Okay, Big Willies has a watch party going
2:17:24
Speaker 3: on for the Utah Mammoth game. They're going to be
2:17:26
Speaker 3: giving away sign jerseys. They're going to be giving away
2:17:29
Speaker 3: a signed hockey stick. You gotta go in, you gotta
2:17:32
Speaker 3: hop into the raffle. There's now two raffles for you
2:17:36
Speaker 3: to participate in the Mammoth Game Day raffle for Saturday
2:17:40
Speaker 3: when you're at Big Willies at seventeen seventeen South Maine.
2:17:43
Speaker 3: And then if you say, oh, by the way, I
2:17:44
Speaker 3: heard about this on the Sean O'Connell show, They're going
2:17:47
Speaker 3: to put your name in the raffle for two tickets
2:17:49
Speaker 3: for a February fourth game against the Detroit Red Wings
2:17:52
Speaker 3: where you're going on the Big Willies tickets. You're going
2:17:55
Speaker 3: on Patrick and Michelle's tickets. It'll be an eight throw
2:17:58
Speaker 3: spot Toyota. It's the fancy stuff, all right. You're gonna
2:18:03
Speaker 3: want to go Big Willies. We'll have AFC Championship game,
2:18:06
Speaker 3: NFC Championship game, and any other sporting event you could
2:18:11
Speaker 3: possibly imagine. They've got the VIP room upstairs, a craft
2:18:14
Speaker 3: food menu, drink specials every single day that are well
2:18:18
Speaker 3: below average prices. Not only from twenty twenty six, but
2:18:23
Speaker 3: from two thousand and six. They are charging less for
2:18:26
Speaker 3: premium alcohols on the daily specials than you could have
2:18:29
Speaker 3: got twenty years ago. That's not an exaggeration. I was
2:18:32
Speaker 3: bartending twenty years ago. I know what those shots were costing,
2:18:36
Speaker 3: and it's more than Big Willies is charging now. That
2:18:39
Speaker 3: doesn't happen anywhere else in the world. So seventeen seventeen
2:18:42
Speaker 3: South Main Telemo c centscha, They'll put your name in
2:18:45
Speaker 3: the raffle for a couple of tickets. Out to the
2:18:48
Speaker 3: text line, we go for a couple of grievances. This
2:18:53
Speaker 3: from Curtis Bingham grievance. I dislike restaurants to charge extra
2:18:58
Speaker 3: for basic items, especially with base price already high. I
2:19:01
Speaker 3: had a tasty Japanese inspired ramen in Salt Lake City
2:19:04
Speaker 3: for about twenty dollars, but adding a soft boiled egg
2:19:08
Speaker 3: costs two dollars and fifty cents. Green onions were a
2:19:11
Speaker 3: dollar fifty and three slices of meat were another four dollars,
2:19:14
Speaker 3: so it was almost thirty bucks. Okay, I'm not going
2:19:18
Speaker 3: to call out an individual business by name because it's
2:19:21
Speaker 3: not in the text here, but that is ridiculous If
2:19:26
Speaker 3: just the broth and noodles is twenty dollars and you
2:19:29
Speaker 3: have to pay two dollars and fifties, even with the
2:19:32
Speaker 3: exorbitant price of eggs. You cannot justify a soft boiled
2:19:35
Speaker 3: egg for two dollars and fifty cents.
2:19:39
Speaker 2: That is ridiculous.
2:19:40
Speaker 3: And by the way, I might pay four dollars extra
2:19:43
Speaker 3: for extra meat, but a dollar fifty for green onions.
2:19:48
Speaker 2: What are we doing here?
2:19:50
Speaker 3: If you own a ramen restaurant and you're charging extra
2:19:54
Speaker 3: for the things that should already be in your ramen.
2:19:57
Speaker 3: Can't get on board with that, Curtis, that is a
2:20:02
Speaker 3: valid grievance, and I will echo it for you. Grievance
2:20:08
Speaker 3: with how many times the phrase proof of concept is
2:20:11
Speaker 3: used on this channel? All right, I'm guilty of that probably. However,
2:20:17
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I didn't use it today. I don't
2:20:19
Speaker 3: know if I used it yesterday, which means correct me
2:20:24
Speaker 3: if I'm wrong. This is really sticking in your craw
2:20:26
Speaker 3: This is something that's been bothering you for some time.
2:20:30
Speaker 3: Too much proof of concept being used on the Sean
2:20:32
Speaker 3: O'Connell show, probably, but also on this channel.
2:20:36
Speaker 2: Interesting.
2:20:38
Speaker 3: I'm gonna need you to specifically cite the last time
2:20:42
Speaker 3: that I use proof of concept, okay, because I don't
2:20:44
Speaker 3: think it was today. Valid grievance though. Alec from Vineyard,
2:20:51
Speaker 3: a caller wanting to err a grievance. I like it, Alec,
2:20:53
Speaker 3: what's your grievance?
2:20:56
Speaker 8: Thank Sean. So it's the beginning of the year, and
2:21:02
Speaker 8: that's why it's happening. But I swear every single morning
2:21:05
Speaker 8: when I go to the gym and I am in
2:21:08
Speaker 8: the saw to finish my session, some guy in there
2:21:12
Speaker 8: is taking a business call, acting like he's closing the
2:21:15
Speaker 8: deal and running, you know, this multi level marketing company,
2:21:20
Speaker 8: and just being overly loud and obnoxious while we're all
2:21:23
Speaker 8: trying to relax and just get a good start to
2:21:26
Speaker 8: our day. It's it's over the top. No one needs
2:21:28
Speaker 8: to hear it.
2:21:31
Speaker 2: That is a valid grievance.
2:21:32
Speaker 3: Now, I have to ask you, when this is happening,
2:21:35
Speaker 3: do you ever say, excuse me, excuse me, this is
2:21:38
Speaker 3: not the place for that.
2:21:39
Speaker 2: Have you ever tried it.
2:21:42
Speaker 8: I've tried to bring it up once or twice, but
2:21:44
Speaker 8: apparently their air pods are just too loud and they
2:21:47
Speaker 8: wants sound important, so they ignore me.
2:21:49
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I would say that you absolutely have
2:21:54
Speaker 3: to do the work for society and say that next
2:21:58
Speaker 3: time it happens to you, all right, I will be
2:22:01
Speaker 3: I'll be your backup. You let me know, I'll come
2:22:03
Speaker 3: down and i will walk into the sauna with you
2:22:05
Speaker 3: and I'll be like, look, you cannot this is a
2:22:08
Speaker 3: grievance for society.
2:22:09
Speaker 2: You cannot do this here, sir. Thank you for that.
2:22:12
Speaker 2: That is a that is valgriebous.
2:22:14
Speaker 3: And by the way, it's not just sauna's at the gym,
2:22:15
Speaker 3: which is one of the most absurd places. You could
2:22:18
Speaker 3: do it at the gym at all. Should not you
2:22:21
Speaker 3: should not be having public private conversations. You know what
2:22:25
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. Airpod's in talking full volume. Now, if
2:22:30
Speaker 3: you have to take a phone call in public, that's
2:22:32
Speaker 3: totally fine, all right.
2:22:34
Speaker 2: But there's this magic that is built into your cell phone.
2:22:37
Speaker 2: Do you know what it is.
2:22:38
Speaker 3: It's a microphone right there at the bottom where your
2:22:41
Speaker 3: your mouth is anyway, which means you can have a conversation.
2:22:46
Speaker 3: You can get your point across in a low volume
2:22:49
Speaker 3: that doesn't disturb the people around you because you're speaking
2:22:52
Speaker 3: into a microphone and that's going to come through loud
2:22:55
Speaker 3: and clear to the person on the end of the
2:22:56
Speaker 3: other end of the phone call. But you don't have
2:22:59
Speaker 3: to talk like it is on your cell phone call
2:23:02
Speaker 3: on the shuttle bus at the airport, sitting at the
2:23:05
Speaker 3: gate at the airport, on the airplane itself, in the
2:23:08
Speaker 3: sauna at the gym, in the squat rack at the gym.
2:23:11
Speaker 3: You just don't need to do it walking around pushing
2:23:14
Speaker 3: your cart in the grocery store. Guess what, you can
2:23:17
Speaker 3: still have that conversation, you just don't need to be
2:23:20
Speaker 3: doing it at full volume.
2:23:22
Speaker 2: We don't want to hear it.
2:23:24
Speaker 3: And by the way, you don't want people to hear
2:23:25
Speaker 3: it either, because if people are eavesdropping, you don't like it.
2:23:29
Speaker 2: So just stop being idiots.
2:23:33
Speaker 4: Well, the don't the air pods or whatever whatever earbuds
2:23:40
Speaker 4: you have, if if if you have an Android phone
2:23:42
Speaker 4: or whatever they got, they got good uh Android version
2:23:46
Speaker 4: of of earbuds to aren't they sophisticated?
2:23:49
Speaker 3: Of microphones? You could talk it just a normal level too. Yeah,
2:23:52
Speaker 3: now I understand why when you're using air pods your
2:23:56
Speaker 3: tendency is to think, why I better talk louder because
2:23:58
Speaker 3: right next to my not right next to my mouth.
2:24:00
Speaker 3: But guess what, I think they can pick it up anyway,
2:24:02
Speaker 3: Yeah they can't.
2:24:03
Speaker 2: And stop just being like.
2:24:08
Speaker 3: I've told this story on the air before months ago,
2:24:10
Speaker 3: when I was sitting at the gate at like midnight,
2:24:13
Speaker 3: about to get on a flight, and the guy was
2:24:15
Speaker 3: doing exactly this. He was having this loud conversation and
2:24:19
Speaker 3: he got real huffy and mad. When I was like, hey,
2:24:23
Speaker 3: excuse me, next time you should go somewhere else, or
2:24:28
Speaker 3: next time you should take your air pods out, talk quieter.
2:24:34
Speaker 3: He was bothered. He was really really bothered. And I'm like,
2:24:37
Speaker 3: that's fine, be bothered at me. I'm doing you a
2:24:40
Speaker 3: favor too, because everyone here in the sauna, everyone here
2:24:43
Speaker 3: at the gate, everyone here at the car dealership, whatever,
2:24:46
Speaker 3: they all think that you're you know what, And I'm
2:24:49
Speaker 3: the one telling you, here's how you stop being that.
2:24:52
Speaker 2: So I don't mind being a little bit confrontational.
2:24:54
Speaker 3: I do politely, but I don't mean being a little
2:24:56
Speaker 3: bit confrontational for the sake of that. And if you're
2:24:59
Speaker 3: the one, if you're if your sauna etiquette is bad.
2:25:03
Speaker 3: By the way, do you know how many times I've
2:25:05
Speaker 3: been sitting in a sauna just feeling grouchy and miserable
2:25:09
Speaker 3: because I'm cutting weight. I can't tolerate bad son etiquette.
2:25:14
Speaker 3: The weird old guy that doesn't even put a towel
2:25:17
Speaker 3: down before his naked butt goes on the like knock
2:25:19
Speaker 3: it off, disgusting grievance against all bad son etiquette. Shout
2:25:26
Speaker 3: shout out to Alec for calling in too. You like,
2:25:28
Speaker 3: you don't have to text this if you wanna, If
2:25:30
Speaker 3: you want to literally air your grievances in your own voice,
2:25:34
Speaker 3: give us a call. Eight seven seven three five three
2:25:35
Speaker 3: zero seven hundred. Airing of grievances here from Jordan on
2:25:39
Speaker 3: the text line. Grievance with the Buffalo bills for firing
2:25:41
Speaker 3: Sean mcderbott just to interview Philip Rivers. Who's next Rudy,
2:25:45
Speaker 3: Michael orch had powers? You can't be serious. Look, there's
2:25:49
Speaker 3: there's absolutely no world in which firing Sean McDermott and
2:25:53
Speaker 3: hiring a Philip Rivers who has no NFL coaching experience.
2:25:56
Speaker 3: He has plenty of NFL experience, but no NFL coaching experience.
2:26:00
Speaker 3: There's absolutely no world in which that is an upgrade.
2:26:03
Speaker 3: And I've always thought that if you're gonna fire a
2:26:05
Speaker 3: good coach, you better have a great coach or a
2:26:07
Speaker 3: potentially great coach in mind. Now, there might be some
2:26:12
Speaker 3: locker room dynamics and politics at play here, but it
2:26:15
Speaker 3: didn't seem that way with the Buffalo Bills and with
2:26:19
Speaker 3: the player reaction to McDermott's firing and things like that.
2:26:22
Speaker 3: So I think this is just a grievance worthy issue
2:26:27
Speaker 3: of not doing the right thing for your team, and Jordan,
2:26:31
Speaker 3: I will I'll co sign your grievance even though you
2:26:33
Speaker 3: don't need me to. I've got a grievance with Kamchatka.
2:26:39
Speaker 3: Are you familiar with Kumchatka?
2:26:41
Speaker 4: Yeah, or as I or as I used to say
2:26:43
Speaker 4: playing Risk, kim Katschma.
2:26:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, Nope, it's Kumchatka. Everyone knows Kumchatka only from the
2:26:50
Speaker 3: Risk board.
2:26:50
Speaker 4: Game, or if recently they were in Kamchatka or Kamchatka
2:26:56
Speaker 4: in uh season four of Stranger Things the Russian So
2:27:01
Speaker 4: there might be some people that know it from that too.
2:27:03
Speaker 3: And they probably put that in Stranger Things because Risk
2:27:06
Speaker 3: was very popular. Exactly in any case, Risk was the
2:27:10
Speaker 3: the Kamchatka territory in Risk was the one in that
2:27:14
Speaker 3: northeastern tip of the Asia continent that had the little
2:27:18
Speaker 3: hyphen bridge that could take you across to attack North America.
2:27:21
Speaker 3: All right, attack Alaska.
2:27:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, but now here's what's happening. Com chactas hogging all
2:27:27
Speaker 2: the snow.
2:27:28
Speaker 3: Have you seen this, I've not seen this. Between seven
2:27:31
Speaker 3: and eight feet of snow fell on Kamchatka, Russia this.
2:27:34
Speaker 4: Week and not and it is fair. It's pretty close
2:27:39
Speaker 4: to Alaska if we didn't get any and.
2:27:41
Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm sure there's snow in Alaska, but get
2:27:44
Speaker 3: that much in Alaska like record snowfall, which in Siberia
2:27:50
Speaker 3: is a big deal if you have a record. Yeah,
2:27:52
Speaker 3: the visuals on this are absolutely insane. Now some of
2:27:55
Speaker 3: them have been AI generated, so make sure you go
2:27:57
Speaker 3: to like actual news sources. But there are people that
2:28:00
Speaker 3: are jumping out of their second floor windows into snow
2:28:04
Speaker 3: banks because that's how high the snow has piled up.
2:28:07
Speaker 3: It's how high it has drifted. And if you had
2:28:10
Speaker 3: a storm that delivered seven feet of snow, that's insane.
2:28:12
Speaker 3: They've also got another storm coming this week, so they're
2:28:15
Speaker 3: gonna be buried again. But we're getting nothing. And I'm
2:28:18
Speaker 3: kind of okay with having a mild winter, but man,
2:28:22
Speaker 3: come Chaka, you're stealing all the snow.
2:28:24
Speaker 4: We we do need the moisture around here, though, so
2:28:27
Speaker 4: I'm I'm okay with it. From like, obviously I don't
2:28:30
Speaker 4: want to be freezing cold.
2:28:32
Speaker 6: But it does.
2:28:33
Speaker 4: Back of my head, I'm like, kind of consequences we
2:28:36
Speaker 4: have for having like no no snow, no rain in
2:28:40
Speaker 4: the wintertime makes me a little nervous.
2:28:42
Speaker 3: Ninety seven eight says my buddy. I golf with a
2:28:45
Speaker 3: random twosome to one day last year. They continually talked
2:28:48
Speaker 3: about large stock dividends, MLM, job opportunities, et cetera. People
2:28:52
Speaker 3: do this as part of a long play scheme or scam.
2:28:54
Speaker 3: So you're telling me saunic guy is talking loud on
2:28:58
Speaker 3: his head. Vill just be like, yeah, yeah, okay, send
2:29:01
Speaker 3: a million five over there and then so that someone
2:29:04
Speaker 3: will ask him when he gets off the phone call, Hey,
2:29:07
Speaker 3: what do you do for work? I'd like to do that.
2:29:09
Speaker 3: Oh well, I have an opportunity for you. If you
2:29:12
Speaker 3: just get on my down line, things are gonna work
2:29:14
Speaker 3: out nicely. Would I wouldn't be surprised. It's terrible.
2:29:19
Speaker 2: Do you have any grievances you'd like to air before
2:29:21
Speaker 2: the weekend?
2:29:21
Speaker 4: James, I have one in general with all MLMs. Anyone,
2:29:26
Speaker 4: anyone considering joining an MLM, tell the person who's asking
2:29:30
Speaker 4: you to just to go.
2:29:35
Speaker 3: You know what themselves.
2:29:37
Speaker 4: You are not never do it. Okay, I had two parents.
2:29:43
Speaker 4: Both my parents tried to tried multiple MLMs. It nearly
2:29:48
Speaker 4: left us destitute.
2:29:50
Speaker 2: Do not do it.
2:29:51
Speaker 4: I'm very anti MLM. Oh, so this is like a
2:29:54
Speaker 4: serious this is a very serious personal thing for me,
2:29:58
Speaker 4: all due respect, I'm never going to be interested in
2:30:01
Speaker 4: you in what you got for me MLM.
2:30:03
Speaker 9: Guy.
2:30:04
Speaker 4: Uh but but lighter, little lighter thing here. Uh yeah,
2:30:09
Speaker 4: I have a grievance against So we did. We did
2:30:11
Speaker 4: the PGA Tour Leader. We're updates brought to you by
2:30:13
Speaker 4: you went to golf coming today?
2:30:15
Speaker 6: Uh huh.
2:30:18
Speaker 4: You used to be able to just google projected cut
2:30:21
Speaker 4: line and then you go to the PGA toy website
2:30:23
Speaker 4: and then it gives you a projected cut line. Okay,
2:30:27
Speaker 4: you may have to scroll a little bit because they
2:30:28
Speaker 4: got other stories in there. Today, I google projected cut
2:30:33
Speaker 4: line and the top link is from the same American
2:30:36
Speaker 4: Express Classic from twenty twenty two.
2:30:39
Speaker 3: No, no, that's not no, you can't. You cannot bring
2:30:44
Speaker 3: me stuff old stuff. So I almost aired the wrong thing.
2:30:48
Speaker 4: Good thank goodness, the number was way off compared to
2:30:51
Speaker 4: what what the scores were today, or I might have
2:30:54
Speaker 4: actually erroneously said the cut line is this, and and
2:31:00
Speaker 4: you know our Utah golfer, A couple of our Utah
2:31:02
Speaker 4: golfers are way below that, like.
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Speaker 3: Come on, come on, PGA Tour.
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Speaker 4: Let's let's let's get a better way of delivering us
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Speaker 4: the projected cut.
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Speaker 3: Line here on a Friday. The airing of grievances is
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Speaker 2: That's down at Union Square in Sandy.
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Speaker 3: All right, there's one special special grievance I will have
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Speaker 3: to air after we take a break, because it's a
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Speaker 3: grievance about Spence checkets and he loves those. Shaan O'Connell
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Speaker 3: show on you does number one Sports Talk ESPN seven
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Speaker 3: hundred ninety twem.
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Speaker 1: You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
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Speaker 1: Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two. One
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Speaker 1: a half yea.
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Speaker 3: A destiny, what's arise?
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Speaker 9: And so.
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Speaker 5: I was born.
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Speaker 2: A shot God, my hands.
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Speaker 4: Behind the good.
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Speaker 3: All right, wrapping things up here on the Sean O'Connell
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Speaker 3: show the drive in Spence check, it's are next.
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Speaker 2: We got a grievance against Spence check.
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Speaker 3: Its say he will not willingly travel south of thirty
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Speaker 3: third in the valley. People don't like that, Spence. When
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Speaker 3: I say people, I mean at least one person.
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Speaker 2: Hello, Sean, how are you? I'm fine?
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Speaker 3: How are you?
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Speaker 10: Everything south of thirty third is provo. I don't say
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Speaker 10: that everything south of third is Utah County.
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Speaker 2: That's not true.
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Speaker 10: Well, in my mind, that's how it works. I cross,
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Speaker 10: I crossed thirty third. I'm like, where's the swig? Okay,
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Speaker 10: where's Cosmo? I am now in Utah County. Sandy might
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Speaker 10: be the most ideal place on planet Earth. And that's
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Speaker 10: right around you know, ninetieth twe hundred and sixth. Sandy
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Speaker 10: is Spanish.
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Speaker 3: Fork's That's that's geographically correct.
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Speaker 10: Draper is Lehigh, Okay, Harriman is American. fIF Draper is Lehigh.
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Speaker 3: Why would Sandy, which is closer to Salt Lake City
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Speaker 3: be Spanish?
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Speaker 2: For point is it's all the same?
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Speaker 3: What else?
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Speaker 10: Daybreak is Springville? Like I don't know anything? Like I
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Speaker 10: I go south of thirty third and I'm like, I'm
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Speaker 10: in a different state.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 10: Interesting, I will only drive south of thirty third for
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Speaker 10: one thing remote two things? Fair enough? No, I uh yeah,
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Speaker 10: I am a and I'm known among my friends too.
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Speaker 10: I'm just a Salt Lake city stop. I will stay centralized.
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Speaker 10: I had an eight minute drive to work today.
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Speaker 3: It was lovely.
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Speaker 10: My grocery store is two blocks from my house.
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Speaker 3: Huh.
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Speaker 10: I don't need to go north or south for anything
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Speaker 10: at all. All right, I will go north or south
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Speaker 10: for well two things now as you as you brought
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Speaker 10: it up, it's the other one's let's move on. If
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Speaker 10: you know a restaurant opens as well, say may I
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Speaker 10: chiy A great topic.
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Speaker 3: By the way, Charles swordsit agrees with you. I hate
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Speaker 3: to go Spence with geography is spot Okay, why do
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Speaker 3: you hate to agree with Spence. Let's start there. Spence
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Speaker 3: is a pretty smart guy, not on this front. Fair enough,
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Speaker 3: thank you, thank you, Charles. Yes, all right, yeah, look
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Speaker 3: I the texture brings up a valid point. And if
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Speaker 3: you live south of thirty third, you it's Saint George.
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Speaker 9: You.
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Speaker 10: Everything south of thirty third is everything south of the state,
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Speaker 10: and it is a me problem. Okay, you live in Washington, whatever,
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Speaker 10: that place is called down South. If you're south of
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Speaker 10: thirty third, you are you know your Saratoga Springs. To me,
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Speaker 10: it's all the same, all right. Wow, I can't lie.
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Speaker 10: The texture brings up a very fair grievance, so I
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Speaker 10: can't argue with it.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: I've been told that you actually are air pods in
2:35:22
Speaker 3: talk too loud in public, guys.
2:35:23
Speaker 2: I very much am not. But I do have a story.
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Speaker 2: It's such a great topic.
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Speaker 10: First of all, there's a there's a guy at my gym,
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Speaker 10: and you know me, Sean. If I'm at the gym,
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Speaker 10: I'm there to move weight, bro. Yeah Russian, you know
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Speaker 10: reversal liies. Yeah, I mean I'm there to move weight.
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Speaker 10: I'm not there to mess around.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, sound the lunk alarm when Spence Checkick walks.
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Speaker 10: In, thank you, dumb bell swings the whole thing out
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Speaker 10: the kettlebell sixty five pounds at least to warm up. Okay,
2:35:48
Speaker 10: And look, if you see me and you want tips,
2:35:49
Speaker 10: I'm a nice guy. Come up and ask and we'll
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Speaker 10: go over your form all that stuff. Anyway, there's a
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Speaker 10: gym bro at my gym almost on the daily. Ear
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Speaker 10: pods in talking super loud I'll be like, hey, hold on,
2:36:03
Speaker 10: I got to hit this rep, and he'll do like
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Speaker 10: ten reps of a bench press and then get back
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Speaker 10: on the phone. It's like yeah, you know, and he'll
2:36:09
Speaker 10: talk to wherever he's talking about his workouts, his job,
2:36:12
Speaker 10: that he's going to get to, his trading, whatever it is.
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Speaker 2: He is the most.
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Speaker 10: He drives me crazy on a daily basis in the
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Speaker 10: gym airpod's in.
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Speaker 2: That's it is sociopathic behavior.
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Speaker 1: I'm with you.
2:36:26
Speaker 2: I completely agree, and.
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Speaker 3: Now I put some responsibility on you. Have you ever
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Speaker 3: approached this man and just been like, this is not
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Speaker 3: the place, dude. No, it's obnoxious for everyone else.
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Speaker 2: H You're right. I should do that, and I can
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Speaker 2: kick his ass. He's not one of those dudes that
2:36:43
Speaker 2: I'm afraid of.
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Speaker 3: I can handle it. Well, you could be nice about
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Speaker 3: it and but like like firm but kind. Yeah, like,
2:36:50
Speaker 3: hey man, I see you all the time. Great job
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Speaker 3: being in here consistently. This is not the place for
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Speaker 3: us to have to listen to all your private conversations. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's discourteous. People hate that word.
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Speaker 10: Because they probably feel seen. They probably realized that you're
2:37:07
Speaker 10: you're actually staring right into their soul. Funny story about
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Speaker 10: this though, when I heard you talking about it, it
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Speaker 10: just reminded me of this and still to this day.
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Speaker 10: So my grandfather, may he rest in peace, was the
2:37:17
Speaker 10: sweetest man in the world. Lowl leishman, my mother's father,
2:37:20
Speaker 10: sweetest man in the world. As he ates, a couple
2:37:22
Speaker 10: of things happened. He stopped giving a you know what
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Speaker 10: about anything. He was just gonna say whatever he wanted.
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Speaker 10: Wherever we went out to eat, he'd be like, Hey,
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Speaker 10: Spaghettian meatballs and a rouper. I'm like, we're a Crown Burger.
2:37:34
Speaker 2: Well you could get those a crownburger. Wherever we were
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Speaker 2: brief for you, it didn't matter.
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Speaker 10: We'd be at a Mexican restaurant, Chinese restaurant. Hey, Spaghettian
2:37:43
Speaker 10: meatballs and a rouper, that's all he wanted. Then he
2:37:44
Speaker 10: wanted chocolate ice cream for dinner.
2:37:46
Speaker 2: That's so great.
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Speaker 10: And also as he aged, his hearing started to go
2:37:49
Speaker 10: a little bit, as it does. And so we're sitting
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Speaker 10: at the airport, We're getting ready to get on a
2:37:54
Speaker 10: red eye to New York. And he used to put
2:37:57
Speaker 10: his headphones on and then play his chest It was
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Speaker 10: his favorite thing to do. And I'm sitting next to him,
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Speaker 10: and there's a gentleman sitting too close to us that
2:38:08
Speaker 10: may have been four hundred and fifty pounds maybe respectfully, Okay,
2:38:14
Speaker 10: we all have our challenges, is what it is. And
2:38:17
Speaker 10: he is sitting there and I don't maybe it was McDonald's.
2:38:20
Speaker 2: It was a burger.
2:38:21
Speaker 10: It was something he got at the airport, and he's
2:38:24
Speaker 10: aggressively eating this before you get on the plane. And
2:38:27
Speaker 10: my grandpa looks up and he goes and for some
2:38:30
Speaker 10: odd reason, my nickname that my grandfather bestowed upon me
2:38:34
Speaker 10: as a two year old was Doobie.
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Speaker 2: Okay, take that for what it was.
2:38:38
Speaker 10: This is an LDS man that has never seen a
2:38:40
Speaker 10: joint in his life. Yeah, well, I mean, of course.
2:38:42
Speaker 10: So I get to high school, it's like, you want
2:38:44
Speaker 10: one of these. I'm like, I guess I have to say. Yes,
2:38:46
Speaker 10: it's my nickname since I was two. But this is
2:38:48
Speaker 10: an LDS man who has no clue what he's calling me,
2:38:50
Speaker 10: but my nickname. And for a lot of my cousins
2:38:53
Speaker 10: still they Spencer Doobie.
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Speaker 1: It was my name.
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Speaker 10: So he looks up from his chest game he sees
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Speaker 10: this guy sitting way too close to us, and he goes,
2:39:00
Speaker 10: look how.
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Speaker 2: Fat that guy is. I'm like, and he puts his
2:39:04
Speaker 2: head down. The guy looks up at me with his hamburger.
2:39:06
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, I'm so sorry.
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Speaker 10: It was the meanest thing I've ever heard any of you,
2:39:13
Speaker 10: and say this poor guy like, oh man, Grandpa, we
2:39:18
Speaker 10: can all hear you.
2:39:19
Speaker 2: Oh yes, old people are agents of chaos.
2:39:23
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like there's this time in the middle of
2:39:26
Speaker 3: your life, from age like five to I think it's
2:39:29
Speaker 3: about eighty where you are held accountable for.
2:39:32
Speaker 2: The things that you say.
2:39:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, but previous to five and after eighty, oh yeah, lawless.
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Speaker 10: And also very genuine and by the way, genuinely curious
2:39:41
Speaker 10: about people that were from other countries to the and
2:39:43
Speaker 10: like no malice in this poor man. But we were
2:39:46
Speaker 10: at the Chinese restaurant up in Bountiful because he was
2:39:50
Speaker 10: from Bountiful. See, i'd go up north with my family's
2:39:51
Speaker 10: up there. It's a very good spot. The Mandarin. We're
2:39:55
Speaker 10: at the Mandarin and this young lady who's an Asian
2:39:59
Speaker 10: woman comes you you'll serve on the table, And my
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Speaker 10: grandpa stands up and he bows and he goes, Coneici, all,
2:40:04
Speaker 10: where are you from and she's like, Denver, my grandpa,
2:40:08
Speaker 10: do you have to stop doing this please? But yeah,
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Speaker 10: the the the loud talker with your pot in in
2:40:15
Speaker 10: public settings, that's just that if you're If you're that guy,
2:40:19
Speaker 10: I hope you feel seen today spectacular.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for airing your grievances. Thanks to everyone who listened
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Speaker 3: to the show today. Stay tuned for the Drive with
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Speaker 3: Spence check its. We'll be back on Monday. It's The
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