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- 0:00Is Jane St. the reason why Bitcoin isn't AT150K right now?
- 0:05There have been massive developments on the Jane St. and
- 0:08Bitcoin price manipulation front.
- 0:11Guess who taught scam bankster fraud how to trade?
- 0:16None other than Jane St. CEO Rob Granieri, and we also
- 0:22now know the secret trading technique that they used to run
- 0:27the 10 AM Bitcoin manipulation out go that had been pummeling
- 0:32Bitcoin for months. This is becoming a massive story
- 0:36with massive implications because as we talked about
- 0:39yesterday, who is the major market maker for black rocks
- 0:43Bitcoin ETF? That's right, it's Jane St. and
- 0:47it's no surprise that ETFs are now under major scrutiny.
- 0:52The re hypothecaters are getting annihilated and it's insanely
- 0:56bullish for Bitcoin. That's right.
- 0:58Look at the chart, read em and weep.
- 1:02We are back, baby. And Sailor isn't selling.
- 1:06He's in the not selling the Bitcoin business.
- 1:09And he says the business is about to be a Bowman.
- 1:12And he isn't alone. Financial giant TD Cohen just
- 1:16said the fundamentals of Bitcoin have never been stronger, $2.5
- 1:20trillion. City just made a major Bitcoin
- 1:23announcement and Morgan Stanley. Yeah, those they just announced
- 1:28plans to offer Bitcoin trading, lending, yield and custody in
- 1:32the future. Yeah, I guess you could say
- 1:34things are getting pretty serious.
- 1:37So serious that according to Kathy Wood, $1.5 million Bitcoin
- 1:42is on the table. That's right.
- 1:44We got a hell of a show today for William Wallace.
- 1:53Now there's a third place you can get credit, and the third
- 1:58place is you go to a crypto exchange or an OTC exchange and
- 2:02they'll oftentimes give you a loan at 4% or 3% or 5% or 2%.
- 2:09I've had people offer me Bitcoin back credit at 1% or 0%.
- 2:18What's the catch, Natalie? Right, that's the question.
- 2:21There's always the catch is they want me to transfer the Bitcoin
- 2:25to them so they can re hypothecate it.
- 2:27So if you have $10 million, you either cannot get a loan from a
- 2:32legitimate bank or you can get a small loan at a 10% interest
- 2:37rate, or you can get a three or 4% loan, but then it gets re
- 2:43hypothecated. So your $10 million of Bitcoin
- 2:46gets sold once, gets sold twice, gets sold three times.
- 2:51You might have, you might actually create 30 or $40
- 2:54million worth of selling because the Bitcoin that you posted is
- 3:00that you transferred to the shadow bank or the crypto
- 3:03exchange rehypothecated it three times.
- 3:07OK, So what's holding down the price?
- 3:09I think what holds down the price of the asset is the lack
- 3:13of a fully formed non re hypothecating credit system,
- 3:20right? And there's a limit to how much
- 3:23you can re hypothecate certain other assets, right?
- 3:27When you post your home as collateral for a mortgage, the
- 3:31bank doesn't turn around and sell the house on your street 10
- 3:34times. If they did, the price of houses
- 3:38on your street would be lower right?
- 3:41So I think that the lack of a fully formed banking system
- 3:45holds the price back. The existence of rehypothecation
- 3:50and the crypto economy damps the Vol.
- 3:54It works to both sides right? When When people want to get
- 3:57short, they might get short 50X leverage.
- 4:01When they want to get long, they make it long 50X leverage.
- 4:06So right now we're in that that bear market where you've got the
- 4:11rehypothecation holding back the price and I think at some point
- 4:16it reverses itself. We'll just have to wait.
- 4:19Well, the. Tides are a changing and we know
- 4:22their game now. This is what Jane St. was doing
- 4:26the same thing, same playbook that got them temporarily banned
- 4:30in India and other countries. They actually made over 4
- 4:33billion swindling from people in India.
- 4:36Well here's how they did it. Have billions of dollars from
- 4:40investors. Buy spot Bitcoin at say 68 K.
- 4:45Open massive shorts via options or derivatives.
- 4:48Sell large amounts of Bitcoin in minutes with algos combined with
- 4:53low liquidity or negative news to trigger panic.
- 4:56Selling price crashes to 62 K. close shorts for massive profits
- 5:01while losing just 5% on spot. Buy spot Bitcoin again at 62 K
- 5:06Squeeze the shorts and create FOMO to push price higher.
- 5:10Open massive shorts again. Rinse and repeat.
- 5:13So is Jane St. the reason we're not at least at 150K right now
- 5:19according to Jeff Park? Not exactly.
- 5:22This isn't about 1 villain firm like Jane St.
- 5:25It's about how the Bitcoin ETF machine actually works.
- 5:29Authorized participants, the big Wall Street desks, they can
- 5:33short ETF shares and hedge however they want.
- 5:36And here's the key, if they hedge with futures instead of
- 5:40buying spot Bitcoin, the spot never gets bought.
- 5:43So the natural ARB mechanism that should push the price up.
- 5:48It doesn't fully fire. It's not illegal, not
- 5:51necessarily evidence of some secret cabal meeting, but it's
- 5:55structural and could say structural by design.
- 5:59Park's bottom line is simple. No authorized participant is
- 6:03explicitly suppressing Bitcoin, but the ETF structure can dampen
- 6:07price discovery. It may not be that Jane Street
- 6:11is holding us back from 150K. It might be that the plumbing
- 6:16itself slows the explosion. Paper.
- 6:19Bitcoin will always return to its intrinsic value of 0.
- 6:23And that is why ETFs are under scrutiny.
- 6:26And if you watch yesterday's episode, we break down the
- 6:30interesting timeline with Jane St. and the creation of the
- 6:33biggest ETF in history. Pretty insane.
- 6:36But according to Saylor, we are sitting at the same inflection
- 6:40point. It's the iPhone.
- 6:42And we have evidence to back that up.
- 6:44But first, Michael Saylor. Phone three people start to
- 6:47think and myself included, I didn't think the iPhone, the
- 6:50original iPhone one or two were that useful.
- 6:53There was no App Store, there's no cut and paste.
- 6:56They were kind of toys. Around 2009, the iPhone starts
- 7:00working, it's iPhone 3. By 2012, they're around the
- 7:06iPhone 4, iPhone 5. Everybody agrees it's a cool
- 7:10product. Apple stock peaks, then it
- 7:13crashes. Between late 2012 and May 2013,
- 7:19Apple stock falls 45%, the same 45% Bitcoins fall.
- 7:26The Apple PDE goes to 10, the Ford PDE less than 10.
- 7:31It's being valued like a tired cash cow.
- 7:35You know, utility company like no technology, no future.
- 7:40People are down on it. You know how long it takes
- 7:43Natalie before Apple recovers to APDE of 30 from 2013 years,
- 7:50Seven years in 2020, Apple returns to APD of 30.
- 7:56So it's 13 year cycle from 2007 to 2020.
- 8:03The greatest company of its error.
- 8:06You know at at many times the most valuable company, the most
- 8:09successful product, the product that a billion people agree is,
- 8:13is something they can't live without.
- 8:16Maybe the most successful product in the history of the
- 8:18human race. It takes 13 years peak to peak
- 8:23to through to peak, seven years to recover.
- 8:27And you know what it took for people to give Apple the PD of
- 8:3130 again, the endorsement of Carl Icahn and Warren Buffett, 2
- 8:37people who probably didn't even use the iPhone that much, if at
- 8:42all. You never would have read a
- 8:44review from Carl Icahn or Warren Buffett on the iPhone, did you?
- 8:49Like, like, are they at the top of your technology, you know,
- 8:54advocate list or technology reviewer list?
- 8:57So that's an example of how conventional markets evaluate
- 9:02innovation. And and here's the irony right
- 9:05at the point that I give that speech and you know, I'm saying,
- 9:08hey, this is an iPhone 5, There's not a six year old that
- 9:11doesn't want this iPhone 5. At the point I give the speech,
- 9:17there's general consensus that the iPhone is something you
- 9:20can't live without and no one's got a product nearly as good.
- 9:23And yet the the conventional markets counter trading it.
- 9:27OK, so if you got rich in the past decade, you probably bought
- 9:33big tech. You probably bought Apple, you
- 9:35probably bought Google. You probably bought Meta.
- 9:38Maybe you bought Amazon. Maybe you bought NVIDIA, maybe
- 9:42you bought Tesla. There's no way you got rich
- 9:44without buying big tech. Big Tech has been the primary
- 9:49screaming success. The stocks are up 10X20X30X50X.
- 9:55You know who's showing us evidence of an inflection point
- 9:58in adoption? None other than Morgan Stanley.
- 10:02That's right, Morgan Stanley. They want a seat at the table.
- 10:05After years of rolling their eyes at bit corners, after
- 10:08calling it a fad, a bubble, magic, Internet money.
- 10:11Now all of a sudden it's a strategic allocation.
- 10:15They laughed at it. They ignored it.
- 10:16They missed it. Now they want to wrap it up,
- 10:18slap a custody fee on it, and pretend they believed all along.
- 10:25So let's talk about some of the products that are coming up for
- 10:28Morgan Stanley. You'd mentioned you're going to
- 10:30allow folks on the E*Trade platform to buy and sell crypto,
- 10:35spot crypto, which is great. And I think you're doing that
- 10:36through a partnership. And then I think later on at
- 10:40some point in time in the next year, you're actually going to
- 10:42build out a native custody and exchange solution, which I'm
- 10:47pretty excited about. You'll potentially be the first
- 10:50major bank to offer that. Why did, why is that piece
- 10:53important? And, and what are you thinking
- 10:55about? Like how does that strategically
- 10:57fit in? Yeah, I think.
- 10:58I think it it, it's a natural we we really need to build this out
- 11:01internally. We can't just primarily rent the
- 11:06the technology to do this. People expect Morgan Stanley,
- 11:09they trust our brand to be no fail.
- 11:12And when you sit in that position, you have a significant
- 11:15responsibility to your clients to make sure that you're
- 11:18delivering that in any level of technology.
- 11:22So I think that's one of the things that we want to do.
- 11:24It's a totally different environment to know that you are
- 11:27custodying your assets. You have legal custody with
- 11:29Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley is overseeing those
- 11:32assets for you. There's always those that are
- 11:35going to want to self custody. That's a natural part of the
- 11:38space, especially in the Bitcoin space.
- 11:41I think for some of you in the room that may not know my
- 11:43background prior to being in the digital asset strategy space, I
- 11:48ran our emerging market investing business for the last
- 11:5213 years and I've been at the firm for 26.
- 11:54So my entire background in emerging markets, as you can
- 11:58imagine, the adoption of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency and I think
- 12:01we lead 17 of the top 20 markets of adoption around the world.
- 12:05This has been a very, very long journey for me being on the
- 12:09ground with many of these companies and investors and
- 12:12users of of cryptocurrencies early on.
- 12:15So, you know, one of the things that we really want to do is
- 12:18just make sure is this continues to mainstream and
- 12:21institutionalized that we're being able to provide those
- 12:24services to clients. That's pretty exciting.
- 12:27So you're going to offer the ability to custody and buy and
- 12:32sell crypto and Bitcoin specifically and probably some
- 12:37other coins. Do you think you'll offer yield
- 12:40and lending services? Of course that Bitcoin.
- 12:42I absolutely. That's part of the discussion
- 12:46and the exploration. It's a natural part of the road
- 12:52map to continue to explore. I think we're in very early,
- 12:56very early journey on that. Just in terms of the number of
- 12:58products that are out in the market.
- 13:00I think we've seen even this year little bit surprised at how
- 13:05much momentum there is around Defy lending.
- 13:08That's definitely a topic that we've seen pop up again and
- 13:12again. We see headlines around that in
- 13:1420 this year, but a little bit of a different product than what
- 13:18you have with with Stretch. Yeah.
- 13:22And and and so awesome. So, so crypto custody, exchange
- 13:26yield lending, which by the way, I think it's going to be world
- 13:30changing when you do that, do you?
- 13:34So $8 trillion in assets on platform, I assume part of this
- 13:39is a commercial decision because people have crypto assets off
- 13:43platforms, yes. Do you have a sense of how much
- 13:45that might be? It's a it's a considerable
- 13:51number. Yeah.
- 13:52So it's a lot. Of current clients.
- 13:54Right. And so you would then get that
- 13:56onto your platform. So you.
- 13:58Can do so. You can either bring that in
- 13:59through at a. In that dimension, City also
- 14:02hopping on board with a corny mission to quote make Bitcoin
- 14:07bankable, whatever the hell that means.
- 14:09But let's check it out. So yes, as you move into the
- 14:12world of 24/7 assets like Bitcoin, we definitely need 24/7
- 14:18U.S. dollar or 24/7 digital money.
- 14:23And all our systems and processes are also being
- 14:26uplifted into 24/7 support. Like we absolutely need that.
- 14:31So in some sense, we are back to the world of City Never sleeps.
- 14:35So this is the one big idea to make Bitcoin bankable.
- 14:40Later this year, Citi will be launching our infrastructure
- 14:44that integrates Bitcoin into traditional finance.
- 14:49So we're going to start with core custody and safe keeping
- 14:52capabilities, institutional grade, key management and wallet
- 14:56infrastructure. So what does it actually mean to
- 15:01make Bitcoin bankable? 3 things.
- 15:05First, as we said, institutional grade custody and key management
- 15:10infrastructure. We also will be bringing Bitcoin
- 15:12into the fold of the $30 trillion of traditional assets
- 15:16that our clients entrance with us today.
- 15:18So it will be the same framework that's applied and now brought
- 15:21to Bitcoin. We will be offering our clients
- 15:24a single service model across crypto securities and money.
- 15:31What this would mean is we will be feeding the Bitcoin positions
- 15:35through the same reporting channels and frameworks and tax
- 15:39workflows that traditional securities fold into.
- 15:43We've heard from our clients like they don't want to handle
- 15:46wallets and keys and one time mattresses, so we will take care
- 15:49of those problems. Different strokes for different
- 15:51folks I guess, but I think everything here is going back to
- 15:54what Sailor was saying at the beginning.
- 15:57And all these banks and institutions, they want your
- 16:00Bitcoin so they can re hypothecate your Bitcoin.
- 16:03They aren't concerned with freedom, only paper gains and
- 16:07paper promises keeping the Ponzi alive.
- 16:10And at the end of the day, they have to offer and buy Bitcoin
- 16:13because otherwise they'll lose to the people that do.
- 16:16Now what's the key to surviving these vampires seeking to
- 16:20rehypothecate your Bitcoin? Well it's simple.
- 16:23You take self custody and as Giga Ched just said, you do not
- 16:28sell your corn. You know, we've, we've gone
- 16:31around the world talking to companies about buying Bitcoin.
- 16:34Well, what I've concluded is that Bitcoin for corporations is
- 16:38stretch. Like if you go to most companies
- 16:41with hundreds of millions of dollars of capital and working
- 16:45capital, it's probably easier for them and better for them to
- 16:48buy stretch than it is to buy Bitcoin.
- 16:51It's very difficult for them to convince the board of directors
- 16:54that they should buy a 40 Vol asset that with no cash flows
- 16:57that they have to mark to market every quarter because it might
- 17:00screw with their P&L. But on the other hand,
- 17:03convincing the board of directors that they should
- 17:06actually collect two or four times more cash flow and not
- 17:10have volatility, that's easier. It's like instead of you taking
- 17:15100 million and buying Bitcoin and getting on the roller
- 17:17coaster, just give me the 100 million.
- 17:20I will accept all the risk. I will accept the roller
- 17:22coaster. I'll over collateralize it.
- 17:25I will give you the 10 or 11% yield back.
- 17:28I'll solve the tax problem and I promise not to sell the Bitcoin.
- 17:33And and so we're in the business of not selling Bitcoin.
- 17:36We got very good at it. We have a PhD in Hodling, you
- 17:40know, and so I figure why don't we just Hodel for the thousands
- 17:45of companies instead of try to convince everybody else to do
- 17:48what we're doing and convince their shareholders and their
- 17:51board of directors. Just since Jane St. got sued 2
- 17:55days ago, Bitcoin is up 10%, adding 120 billion to its market
- 18:00cap, and the Bitcoin Weekly candle has turned green after 5
- 18:04consecutive red candles. And during this whole thing,
- 18:07Sailor wasn't the only one feeling more bullish than ever
- 18:11following the crash. So is Kathy Wood, and she's
- 18:15calling for $1.5 million Bitcoin.
- 18:18We're about to bring it home, but before we do, look at our
- 18:21likes. Three or four times maybe.
- 18:23I pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers in this
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- 20:08simply. You'll see it's very low,
- 20:11especially since 2019 since more traditional investors have
- 20:17become have been getting involved with it.
- 20:20The correlation is 0.14, so almost no correlation.
- 20:28But if you if you zoom out and you look at the longer term
- 20:32price chart of Bitcoin, what you'll see is gold often leads
- 20:38and certainly in the last two cycles, Bitcoins performance.
- 20:43So gold is a leading indicator in, in, in at least the last two
- 20:48cycles. We think the other thing going
- 20:52on is we're seeing a lot of Ogs selling.
- 20:57Those who were very early on, very early adopters of Bitcoin
- 21:02are selling now. Why are they selling?
- 21:04Well, according to some of them, you know, Bitcoin has lost the
- 21:09plot too, too much traditional finances, financial players are
- 21:15getting involved. And from our point of view all
- 21:19along, and this is in our collaboration with Doctor Arthur
- 21:24Laffer, known for the Laffer Curve.
- 21:26He has said the more that Bitcoin becomes involved in the
- 21:32traditional financial ecosystem, meaning traditional financial
- 21:37institutions start adopting it, the the stronger his conviction
- 21:43will be that it is indeed the new global monetary system I
- 21:50described. So our conviction has actually
- 21:53gone up as Bitcoin has gone down 1.
- 21:57Thing is certain, the Bitcoin obituaries keep getting more
- 22:01expensive. Do with that information what
- 22:03you will. If this is the iPhone moment of
- 22:07money, then imagine Sailor walking into Shark Tank today.
- 22:11Hello Sharks. I'm looking for 1% of $200
- 22:14trillion of digital capital backed by digital credit in
- 22:18exchange for 0% of my company, MicroStrategy.
- 22:22You haven't explained how I make money, which is the most
- 22:25important thing because there's no.
- 22:26Chance. Of you making money on this,
- 22:28first we had Bitcoin, which is digital capital.
- 22:30Now we have strategy pioneering digital credit.
- 22:33In the future, we're going to have digital money.
- 22:36We issue shares of our common stock to pay the dividend of our
- 22:39preferred equities. Then we use our different
- 22:40preferred equities to pay for the dividends of their other
- 22:43preferred equities. Let's.
- 22:44Leave all the passion and all the.
- 22:47Kumbaya. Kumbaya leave it aside for a
- 22:49second. In the end, shark tanks about
- 22:50making. Money.
- 22:52Isaac Newton would have invented Bitcoin if he could have.
- 22:54In fact, he probably did. I'm so frustrated I have no
- 22:58idea. I really don't know what your
- 22:59business. Is.
- 22:59I don't know. What your strategy is?
- 23:01I really don't. Know anything?
- 23:02I went to MIT, we sold Nike dunks and they're trading for
- 23:06like 2 grand on eBay. Why are you here?
- 23:08Sure, you can invest in a company like NVIDIA or Microsoft
- 23:12or Tesla or Amazon or Apple that's trading at a 20 to 60 X
- 23:16price to book. Or you can trade our company at
- 23:18a 1.19 M NAV during a Bitcoin bear market you're out of.
- 23:22Here, see you buddy. Goodbye.
- 23:24Take a. Bro, Jeffrey Epstein said.
- 23:26I was autistic to everybody. Who's watching?
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- 24:07Just in case we couldn't play that skit, we will have a link
- 24:10in the show notes Sailor reposted it.
- 24:13It's absolutely hilarious. I hope you guys enjoyed this
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- 24:33Down with the ship. You.