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Sharri | 27 May · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News.
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Speaker 2: This is Sharry, Thanks Andrew, and good evening tonight. The
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Speaker 2: government has rolled out the red carpet for the Isis
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Speaker 2: linked women and children. As a photographer speaks about being
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Speaker 2: hit by one of their supporters. You won't believe the
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Speaker 2: special treatment they received. New South Wales opposition leader Kelly
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Speaker 2: Sloane goes after the Police Minister Yasmin Catley after explosive
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Speaker 2: new evidence from the Royal Commission will show you what
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Speaker 2: they said. And the sex Discrimination Commissioner who claims transgender
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Speaker 2: women born as biological men can have potential pregnancies. We'll
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Speaker 2: get stuck into that with Michael Kroger and Joe Hildebrand shortly.
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Speaker 2: But first, nineteen women and children linked to Islamic State
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Speaker 2: have now, as you know we were on air last night,
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Speaker 2: arrived back in Australia in a covert high security operation.
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Speaker 2: And while the government keeps insisting it did not help
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Speaker 2: repatriate them, what Australian Saul last night tells a very
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Speaker 2: different story. Police airport escorts government support on offer rental cars,
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Speaker 2: waiting to risk them to hotels and even other passengers.
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Speaker 2: Reportedly fosters stay on the plane while the ISIS linked
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Speaker 2: cohort was taken off. First, Leah Mendes from The Australian
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Speaker 2: broke down the special treatment they received.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to take you inside the top secret operation
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Speaker 3: to get the so called ISIS bride's home after touching
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Speaker 3: down at Sydney Airport on Tuesday evening. After landing, they
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Speaker 3: were escorted to the Merriton Suites in Zelen in two
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Speaker 3: avers higher cars. Now, while they were there, we saw
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Speaker 3: some Domino's pizza being dropped off to reception and riot
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Speaker 3: police were also seen at the hotel. But when one
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Speaker 3: group came to leave, this is members of the Zahab family.
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Speaker 3: They were escorted down into an underground car park and
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Speaker 3: this is a bit of what their relatives had to
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Speaker 3: say as they picked them up.
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Speaker 4: Happy to be home, of course, of course, we're happy
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Speaker 4: to be safe.
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Speaker 5: We're happy to be safe in an opey country and
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Speaker 5: thank you Australians.
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Speaker 3: Then they drove to the family home in southwest Sydney
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Speaker 3: where more relatives were waiting for them. Now, the four
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Speaker 3: women and six children were given the option to walk
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Speaker 3: out of the airport's main exit or be assisted through
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Speaker 3: a side exit. Now, they took the second option.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no customs cues for the special isis cohort and
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Speaker 2: great reporting to Leah Mendi's there. Now, why should taxpayers
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Speaker 2: have to foot the bill for all of this, especially
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Speaker 2: for people who literally left our country to join a
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Speaker 2: death cult, and then when they returned, some with children
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Speaker 2: born in terror zones, their supporters start scuffles, like we
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Speaker 2: saw at Melbourne last night.
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Speaker 1: That's assault. Amen, Amen, Amen, leave them alone.
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Speaker 6: Man, right, they've been thrown up, right, that's assault.
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Speaker 2: That was a Daily Mail photographer who says he was hit.
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Speaker 2: The photographer, David, said he'd been waiting two hours at
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Speaker 2: the airport to capture their arrival.
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Speaker 7: This is what he said.
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Speaker 2: He said, I spotted the second group, a woman and
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Speaker 2: two children, coming out, and sprinted after them towards the
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Speaker 2: waiting four wheel drive. That's when I was approached by
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Speaker 2: two men. I can't tell you exactly what happened. I
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Speaker 2: just got hit. I was trying to take pictures and
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Speaker 2: then I couldn't see. I suspect he hit me with
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Speaker 2: an open palm and it hit me in the face.
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Speaker 2: It was hard enough to mess up my settings, so
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Speaker 2: I lost about a minute of time to take pictures.
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Speaker 2: My camera wouldn't work. He hit it that hard. Now,
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Speaker 2: the return of this controversial cohort is clearly in the
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Speaker 2: public interest and the media should be able to safely
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Speaker 2: do their jobs now.
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Speaker 7: The Nightly reports that one of.
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Speaker 2: The isis brides who arrived in Melbourne last night is
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Speaker 2: Kirsty ross Emil journalist Kristen Shorten reports that her archived
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Speaker 2: Facebook posts are lit it with jehardest imagery and hardline
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Speaker 2: religious slogans. She reports that one graphic posted in July
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Speaker 2: twenty twelve declared g had the only solution. Another image
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Speaker 2: proclaimed lions of Islam, alongside photographs of extremist figures including
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Speaker 2: al Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden An Islamic State founder
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Speaker 2: Abu Musab al Zakawi. The Nightly reports that posts like
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Speaker 2: this paint a picture that's at odds with her claim
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Speaker 2: that she never intended to join Islamic State now. While
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Speaker 2: none of these recently returned women have been charged at
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Speaker 2: this stage, police say investigations are ongoing, but it's left
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Speaker 2: many Australians rightly asking why women linked to one of
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Speaker 2: the most dangerous and grotesque terror groups in the world
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Speaker 2: appeared to be getting privileged treatment. We'll come back to
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Speaker 2: that a bit later, but yet more dysfunction, errors and
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Speaker 2: flaws have emerged during the Royal Commission today. The main
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Speaker 2: revelations from today's hearing is that the New South Earl's
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Speaker 2: Police had disbound and it the Task Force for Anti
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Speaker 2: Semitism and that the Gun Registry had got rid of
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Speaker 2: their intelligence analysts. The failures and flaws are mounting with
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Speaker 2: each day of the hearings and the more I personally
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Speaker 2: investigate the matter. New South Wales Police Deputy Commissioner Dave
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Speaker 2: Hudson told the Commission today that Operation Shelter had been
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Speaker 2: disbanded by the time of the Bondie attack, and it
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Speaker 2: was a revelation that the Commissioner, Virginia Bell herself asked
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Speaker 2: questions about.
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Speaker 8: What was the position by mid December twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 8: Was Operation Shelter ACDIVF, Did it have many police resources
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Speaker 8: attached to it or not?
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Speaker 9: Operation Shelter was under the direction of Field Operations, not
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Speaker 9: my area I see, but I know that the response
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Speaker 9: was absorbed by the Central Metropolitan Region for the management
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Speaker 9: of protests and any proactive taskings that fell to Central
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Speaker 9: Metropolitan Region rather than a centralized group where resources were
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Speaker 9: taken from other commands to Stafford.
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Speaker 8: So that in effect, Operation Shelter at that time was
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Speaker 8: no longer was no longer functioning in.
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Speaker 9: Name only as a capture process. I believe for.
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Speaker 7: Reports pretty clear there.
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Speaker 2: Yet, Opposition leader Kelly Sloane tried to ask the Police
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Speaker 2: Minister Yasmin Cautley about this in question time today and
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Speaker 2: it appears that Catley contradicted the evidence that was presented
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Speaker 2: at the Royal Commission both yesterday and today, claiming that
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Speaker 2: Operation Shelter had never ceased.
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Speaker 10: And yesterday's Royal Commission hearing it was revealed that Operation
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Speaker 10: Shelter was not in place at the time of the
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Speaker 10: Bondaie terrorist attack in December twenty twenty five. Who made
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Speaker 10: the decision to dismantle Operation Shelter and when was that
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Speaker 10: decision made, Mister.
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Speaker 11: Speaker, I'm advised that Operation Shelter never ceased, and I
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Speaker 11: would just remind the House that there is a Royal
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Speaker 11: Commission underway and in fact there are witnesses being examined.
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Speaker 11: As we stand in this place right now, we should
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Speaker 11: let that process do its work.
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Speaker 2: The fact the Royal Commission is underway does not preclude
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Speaker 2: questions from being asked of the government about why it
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Speaker 2: shut down a crucial police task force before the terror attack.
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Speaker 2: The minister just can't use it as an excuse not
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Speaker 2: to answer questions. Well, Liberal politician Anthony Roberts tried yet again.
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Speaker 12: Yesterday's Royal Commission hearing was revealed that there was no
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Speaker 12: Operation Shelter in December of twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 13: Question is are you.
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Speaker 14: Misleading the House or is the Royal Commission being misled?
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Speaker 11: Very important, that's a very serious allegation. I'll start with
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Speaker 11: that I have been advised that Operation Shelter never ceased,
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Speaker 11: and I will restate that there is a Royal Commission underway,
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Speaker 11: and I strongly believe that it is the duty of
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Speaker 11: this House to respect that process.
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Speaker 7: It's infuriating, isn't it.
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Speaker 2: This information about Operation Shelter was deliberately ventilated in public
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Speaker 2: by the Royal Commission. It wasn't in the closed door,
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Speaker 2: in camera confidential session. It was in public two days running.
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Speaker 2: So there's no excuse for Police Minister Yasmin Cautley to
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Speaker 2: hide away and not be transparent.
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Speaker 10: On the fifteenth of December twenty twenty five, the day
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Speaker 10: after the Bondi terrorist attack, New South Wales Police Commissioner
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Speaker 10: mal Lanion said to the media this morning we commenced
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Speaker 10: Operation Shelter and he also said it is an operation
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Speaker 10: that we have previously run. Yet you have told the
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Speaker 10: House twice today that Operation Shelter never ceased. Are the
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Speaker 10: Commissioner's comments inaccurate or have you misled the House?
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Speaker 2: But yas mccatley still made no concessions or attractions. She
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Speaker 2: simply again said the Royal Commission should be respected. Look,
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Speaker 2: the public deserves to know if Operation Shelter wasn't operating
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Speaker 2: at the time of Bondi and why it had been
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Speaker 2: shut down. The Minister needs to respond to these questions.
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Speaker 2: Hiding behind the Royal Commission is simply cowardly. Its political
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Speaker 2: spin at work now. Another shocking revelation today was that
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Speaker 2: the division of the New South Wales Police Force that
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Speaker 2: issues firearm licenses had lost its intelligence analysts. They'd been
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Speaker 2: removed in twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 1: You understand there was an issue raised by the then
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Speaker 1: Manager of Licensing Services of the Firearms Registry which identified
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Speaker 1: several intelligence practice capability gaps. Yes, I think the word
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Speaker 1: in your statement is numerous intelligence practice capability gaps. In
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Speaker 1: April twenty twenty three, there was a further issue raised
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Speaker 1: by the then Manager of Licensing Services at the Firearms Registry,
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Speaker 1: which asserted that there were risks to public safety due
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Speaker 1: to capability gaps of the Registry as a result of
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Speaker 1: they're being no dedicated intelligence resource to support the functions
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Speaker 1: of the command.
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Speaker 2: So, according to this report, there were risks to public
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Speaker 2: safety because there were gaps, including no dedicated intelligence fund
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Speaker 2: within the body that issues weapons. The Assistant Commissioner Kirsty
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Speaker 2: Hayward was questioned about this, do.
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Speaker 1: You agree that that intelligence analysts position should not have
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Speaker 1: been removed when it was?
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Speaker 14: There was an assessment made of what that role was
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Speaker 14: providing to the command at that time, and it was
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Speaker 14: obviously assessed that what was being provided to the Registry
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Speaker 14: wasn't I suppose didn't establish the need for a full
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Speaker 14: time intelligence role in the Registry.
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Speaker 2: The picture that is clearly emerging now is of a
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Speaker 2: multitude of failures from New Southales police resourcing to operations
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Speaker 2: to the Firearm Registry, to the National Security Hotline, to
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Speaker 2: Azio's travel alert system, to the AFP and borderfoss not
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Speaker 2: flagging travel to terror hotspots, and much more, all of
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Speaker 2: these failures meant the aircrams slipped through the cracks, moved
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Speaker 2: freely to terror hotspots, went under the radar, were not monitored,
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Speaker 2: and were issued gun licenses so that they could be
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Speaker 2: armed with multiple weapons.
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Speaker 7: All of this ended with the deadly attack at BONDI.
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Speaker 2: All right, I'll come back to that in a moment,
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Speaker 2: but let's get to some of the other headlines today. First,
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Speaker 2: and the Sex Discrimination Commissioner has told Senate estimates that
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Speaker 2: trans women born mail could be protected from discrimination on
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Speaker 2: the basis of you can hear joeyod around laughing next
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Speaker 2: to me already, potential pregnancy.
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Speaker 15: Have a look, trans women. If someone is who applies
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Speaker 15: for a job, for example, and it is a trans woman,
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Speaker 15: and she may be asked whether or not she intends
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Speaker 15: to have children, and if she replies yes, I do,
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Speaker 15: and then doesn't get the job because that employer doesn't
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Speaker 15: want to employ women who maybe of childbearing age, then
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Speaker 15: she may have been subjected to unlawful discrimination on the
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Speaker 15: basis of potential pregnancy.
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Speaker 7: I'm very confused. A biological male can't become pregnant.
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Speaker 2: And went you've probably seen that already because it has
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Speaker 2: been Big News Today and joining me now from a
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Speaker 2: Victorian Liberal Party president Michael Kroger and Sky News host
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Speaker 2: Joe hilt and Brown Joeyo and tackling away.
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Speaker 7: So I'll start with you.
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Speaker 16: Well, it's a direct lift from Monty Python. It is
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Speaker 16: a direct lift from Life of Brian where you have
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Speaker 16: the people's front of Judea and one.
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Speaker 7: Of the Andrew Bilt played.
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Speaker 16: That that's right, that's right. It's just it's outstanding. So
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Speaker 16: you're saying, you know, no, you can't, you're not going
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Speaker 16: to be able to get pregnant, but you're going to
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Speaker 16: have the right to get pregnant. I mean, this is
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Speaker 16: just absolutely staggering. It is, I mean, the idea I
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Speaker 16: suppose that you would waste I mean, I can It
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Speaker 16: took me a while. It actually took me all day
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Speaker 16: to come out and say.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 16: So, an employer is interviewing a trans woman, doesn't know
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Speaker 16: she's trans, thinks that she's a biological woman, and therefore
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Speaker 16: does an employer because even though because because he thinks
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Speaker 16: that she might become pregnant because he doesn't know that
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Speaker 16: she's trans. Right, So that is obviously the scenario that
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Speaker 16: they've concocted. Who on Earth has the time or resources
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Speaker 16: to sit around coming up with these these This is
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Speaker 16: what I mean, And this is the problem with this
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Speaker 16: sort of new identity obsessed left. Like of all the
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Speaker 16: problems you could turn your mind to, all the things
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Speaker 16: in all the world that you could think we need
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Speaker 16: to fix this. You've got homeless people if on the streets,
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Speaker 16: You've got people who are eating out of bins. This
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Speaker 16: is research for the Salvos that I did that I
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Speaker 16: wrote about just today. People who are eating out of
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Speaker 16: bins because they can't afford to feed their children. And
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Speaker 16: this is what the sort of progressive left is kind
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Speaker 16: of picking up and running with these Honestly just blows
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Speaker 16: my mind.
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Speaker 2: You know, all these clips that emerge out of Senate
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Speaker 2: estimates of these ridiculously stupid public servants. I mean, it
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Speaker 2: gives the public servants a bad look, I have to say,
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Speaker 2: Michael Kroger. The thing that worries me as well is
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Speaker 2: that the rights of women are being forgotten because all
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Speaker 2: these departments seem to be worrying about you know, non
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Speaker 2: gender trans people.
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Speaker 12: It's sort of get the impression she's three years out
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Speaker 12: of dating and we had people work.
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Speaker 13: Three years ago Sherry. I think she's going to get
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Speaker 13: with the program.
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Speaker 12: And today, to take Joe's point about people struggling to pay.
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Speaker 13: For food, I look this up today.
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Speaker 12: You know, the median salary in Australia is fifty five
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Speaker 12: thousand dollars.
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Speaker 13: In this country.
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Speaker 12: That means that half the country get more than fifty
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Speaker 12: five thousand.
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Speaker 13: The other house get.
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Speaker 12: Left, which includes it's low because it includes all the
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Speaker 12: part timers. The average full time salary is between nineteen
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Speaker 12: one hundred thousand. Anna Cody, the Sex Discrimination Commissioner, we
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Speaker 12: put on that bizarre performance today and that's what she
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Speaker 12: believes is paid four hundred and eight thousand dollars a year.
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Speaker 13: And you wonder why the one nation vote is so high.
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Speaker 7: Shari, Yeah, unbelievable, it really is.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's turn to Ben Robert Smith's arrest at
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Speaker 2: Sydney Airport, which has been referred to the National Anti
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Speaker 2: Corruption Body. Chris Murriatis, the Special investigator into alleged war
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Speaker 2: crimes in Afghanistan, told Senate Estimates that he suspected someone
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Speaker 2: leaked the arrest to the media. Well, that had to
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Speaker 2: have happened, otherwise, how would the media have known to
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Speaker 2: be there? Prior to the arrest here he is, the
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Speaker 2: media seemed to have been privy to things, and therefore
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Speaker 2: you know we're taking the steps to ascertain what happened there. Yeah, well, Joe,
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Speaker 2: it's obviously a leak, because you know they're not psychic.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, obviously, if it walks like a duck and quacks
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Speaker 16: like a dark it's a dark. I mean, I'm certainly
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Speaker 16: you know, I don't want to discourage any institutions from
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Speaker 16: leaking to the media information that they have. Yeah, but
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Speaker 16: I would have to say, just again, the judgment of
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Speaker 16: it when you know that already that this is going
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Speaker 16: to be possibly the most politically charged case in Australian history.
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Speaker 16: I mean, he is the most decorated soldier in all
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Speaker 16: of Australian history. You have his cause being picked up
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Speaker 16: by figures on the conservative side who are saying, how
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Speaker 16: dare you question this person given his service? You know,
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Speaker 16: whether he's guilty or not, is being sort of you know,
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Speaker 16: opinions on that sort of breaking along party lines if
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Speaker 16: you like a long political spectrum. So the idea that
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Speaker 16: you would you know that you would tip off either
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Speaker 16: elements of the media who people are already blaming for
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Speaker 16: trying to frame him or set him up or cast
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Speaker 16: him in a bad light. It's just you know, I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 16: please give us all the tip offs you can. But
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Speaker 16: from a strategic point of view, if you are actually
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Speaker 16: prosecuting this case and trying to get a conviction, what
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Speaker 16: an incredibly stupid way to go about it, because you
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Speaker 16: would want to have, surely, in this more than any case,
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Speaker 16: absolutely no perception of any political motivation or publicity motivation whatsoever.
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Speaker 16: So it just seems to be a striking own goal.
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Speaker 2: It was particularly disgraceful, Michael, because, as we all know,
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Speaker 2: Ben Robert Smith had on a couple of occasions offered
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Speaker 2: to turn himself in to avoid this side of public spectacle,
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Speaker 2: and yet they did it in front of his children.
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Speaker 2: The journalists obviously knew about it beforehand, They knew to
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Speaker 2: be there.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, and I saw that pathetic explanation today from police
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Speaker 12: as to why he wasn't able to turn himself in.
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Speaker 13: Personally and or with his solicitors.
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Speaker 12: Look, Joe's right, this has backfired very badly on the authorities.
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Speaker 13: Smith.
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Speaker 12: Ben Robert Smith has received huge national sympathy for the
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Speaker 12: one which he's been treated.
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Speaker 13: When you consider the way other people.
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Speaker 12: Have been treated in recent days, in recent weeks, Shari,
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Speaker 12: who I might be talking about this bloke, this bloke
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Speaker 12: one of victoria Cross for whatever's alleged against him as
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Speaker 12: a matter of the courts, This guy one of Victoria's
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Speaker 12: Cross for running into the fire of machine guns. People
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Speaker 12: who left this country to voluntarily associate themselves with a
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Speaker 12: criminal terrorist organization that beheaded civilians welcomed back into their
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Speaker 12: country with state government health checks, police escorts, access to vehicles, motels, et.
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Speaker 13: Cetera, et cetera.
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Speaker 12: No wonder a lot of people in this country think
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Speaker 12: the place is going to the doghouse. When you compare
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Speaker 12: how a national hero has been treated and how you
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Speaker 12: compare isis aligned people are being treated. The public are
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Speaker 12: not dumb showing you know what, they've waken up. They've
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Speaker 12: been hearing all this rubbish from all of us liberal
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Speaker 12: labor me everyone liberally for ten years. Right, They've waken up.
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Speaker 12: They're now saying enough of all this nonsense. Anna Cody
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Speaker 12: isis Brides. You know Robert Smith being arrested by police
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Speaker 12: tip off. There's a thousand of these incidents that are
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Speaker 12: choosing off the public, which is why the one nation
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Speaker 12: voted so strong.
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Speaker 2: Michael Well put that entire comment absolutely well put. People
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Speaker 2: were already furious about the treatment of Ben Robert Smith,
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Speaker 2: and that was before the arrival of the Isis cohort
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Speaker 2: the first lot and this lot Joe.
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Speaker 7: And it is disgraceful.
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Speaker 2: There are there are questions about right and I say,
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Speaker 2: are a hero compared to this that's right?
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Speaker 16: And I say, this is someone who is not in
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Speaker 16: that sort of Ben Robert Smith must be innocent because
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Speaker 16: he's a VC cohort. I obviously just want to see
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Speaker 16: justice dan and played out. But I'm not one of
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Speaker 16: those people who are sort of championing him. But even
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Speaker 16: I sort of seeing that thing, what are you doing here?
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Speaker 16: You're actually now that makes it look like a media
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Speaker 16: start And the narrative of Ben Roberts Smith's greatest defenders
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Speaker 16: is that he is the victim of a tall poppy syndrome,
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Speaker 16: targeted by the media who wanted to get a scalp,
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Speaker 16: who hate Australia, who whatever whatever, And you're now actually
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Speaker 16: seeing that kind of play out. It's a bit like
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Speaker 16: when remember when the BBC got tipped off about Cliff
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Speaker 16: Richards allegations against Cliff Richards, and they all came and
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Speaker 16: swarmed on the thing, and it turned out that there
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Speaker 16: was absolutely nothing to it, and he ended up suing
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Speaker 16: them for millions and millions and millions of dollars. And
22:39
Speaker 16: again you just wonder when people will actually start to
22:44
Speaker 16: learn from these mistakes. What looks like a great big
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Speaker 16: sugar hit of a exclusive picks or whatever on day
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Speaker 16: one could end up being just the biggest mistake that
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Speaker 16: you've made right at the beginning of a process that
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Speaker 16: should be you know, like Caesar's life above suspicion.
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Speaker 2: But just very quickly before we go Michael, I mean,
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Speaker 2: whatever he's alleged to have done, this has already eaten
23:07
Speaker 2: up his life, ruined his life, you'd say, and for
23:10
Speaker 2: the best part of what ten years or something.
23:13
Speaker 12: Yeah, And it's these types of injustices that started to
23:17
Speaker 12: say people have had enough off. I mean, I've just
23:18
Speaker 12: had dinner with a longtime Liberal Party donor who's had
23:22
Speaker 12: enough and is going to give money to one note.
23:25
Speaker 7: Oh, I think we've lost Michael Kroger that well.
23:27
Speaker 13: Twenty other things.
23:28
Speaker 12: They're upset about all his massive bodies in Canberra with huge,
23:34
Speaker 12: huge amounts of money throwing out of them three hundred
23:36
Speaker 12: million from Creative Australia. The head of the ABC who
23:38
Speaker 12: resigned today. The newsgo Justin Stevens is at seven hundred thousand.
23:43
Speaker 13: I mean, the average Monday hasn't got.
23:45
Speaker 12: Twenty dollars in their pockets and they can't afford school
23:48
Speaker 12: bags for their kids.
23:50
Speaker 13: Farmers are on the to their.
23:51
Speaker 12: Backside and they keep reading about these things. And you say, well,
23:55
Speaker 12: Broo Smith went to the Middle East to fight for Australia,
23:58
Speaker 12: So if I for freedom, people l and look what's
24:01
Speaker 12: happened to you?
24:01
Speaker 7: Exactly, And they're wasting enough.
24:03
Speaker 2: I've had enough, exactly, wasting three hundred million dollars if
24:06
Speaker 2: that's correct on Ben Roberts Smith.
24:08
Speaker 7: You know what is it?
24:09
Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty million dollars on Chris Bowen's Cop
24:12
Speaker 2: thirty one.
24:13
Speaker 7: You know, presidency?
24:14
Speaker 3: All right, I think we.
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Speaker 16: Should go before Michael joins one nation. I think we're
24:18
Speaker 16: in danger of No.
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Speaker 7: I don't think.
24:22
Speaker 17: Liberal.
24:23
Speaker 13: It's hard for liberal and labor to hold their votes.
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Speaker 16: Of my failure exactly.
24:26
Speaker 7: All right, do you Joe as a labor guy?
24:28
Speaker 5: All right?
24:28
Speaker 7: Joe got to go Hi.
24:32
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's return now, we'll continue talking about
24:35
Speaker 2: the latest on the ISIS brides with the nineteen who've
24:38
Speaker 2: arrived back overnight. As I said, no women have been charged,
24:42
Speaker 2: but police have downloaded devices search belongings and they say
24:46
Speaker 2: that investigations are ongoing.
24:49
Speaker 7: Joining me now is Sky.
24:50
Speaker 2: News Australia Defense analyst Peter Jennings. Well, Peter, clearly the
24:54
Speaker 2: authorities didn't know enough or have enough access to this cohort,
25:00
Speaker 2: because they're still investigating them now.
25:04
Speaker 5: Yes, that's a puzzle Sharia. It seems very clear to
25:08
Speaker 5: me that they could have been charged with entering a
25:11
Speaker 5: prohibited area. That's I think commonly known for the adults
25:18
Speaker 5: at least among this group that have now returned. So
25:22
Speaker 5: I find it puzzling that there is a lack of
25:25
Speaker 5: preparation it would seem to at least make that initial charge.
25:29
Speaker 5: But I think it's also fair to say that it
25:32
Speaker 5: doesn't preclude those charges being made in the future and
25:37
Speaker 5: perhaps also being extended out to include other things as well,
25:40
Speaker 5: so they're not off the hook yet, although I think
25:43
Speaker 5: we have cause to be concerned about the slowness with
25:46
Speaker 5: which the police have been actually addressing this issue, given
25:51
Speaker 5: we've known for months that these returns were going to happen.
25:55
Speaker 2: In terms of moving forward, how much monitoring do you
25:59
Speaker 2: estimate that this would require. I mean, we already know
26:02
Speaker 2: from evidence this week that ASIO is stretched.
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Speaker 5: It will require more monitoring than AZIO and the police
26:11
Speaker 5: are funded to provide. I think they've more or less
26:14
Speaker 5: indicated that they're simply incapable of doing twenty four seven monitoring.
26:19
Speaker 5: And the thing that I think we should be more
26:21
Speaker 5: concerned about than has been raised thus far. People talk about, well,
26:26
Speaker 5: maybe these children were radicalized in the camps, but let's
26:29
Speaker 5: remember Shari a decade ago, three hundred or so people
26:33
Speaker 5: were radicalized here in Australia, and we see these women
26:37
Speaker 5: returning into Goodness knows what kind of social world. We
26:43
Speaker 5: just to have these thugs and black around them sort
26:46
Speaker 5: of looking threatening towards journalists, But what is the community
26:52
Speaker 5: and the millia that they are going to be living
26:54
Speaker 5: in now? Does that give rise to concerns about the
26:57
Speaker 5: possibility for them to be further radicalized, store for the
27:00
Speaker 5: children to be further radicalized? What do we know about that?
27:05
Speaker 5: There will be police and social agencies in the States
27:07
Speaker 5: that have a better sense of the degree of radicalization
27:11
Speaker 5: in these communities, but it's not widely publicly understood, and
27:15
Speaker 5: I think this presents a current risk and something that
27:18
Speaker 5: should take more monitoring than I think will be available
27:21
Speaker 5: to be devoted to the task. Then we'll see you
27:25
Speaker 5: incoming months.
27:26
Speaker 7: I mean, that's the thing. You know.
27:27
Speaker 2: The language we hear from the government is that everything
27:31
Speaker 2: will be fine. Security agencies and police are on top
27:34
Speaker 2: of this. But then you see the scenes at Melbourne Airport,
27:37
Speaker 2: you know, someone pushing the camera in a quite aggressive way,
27:41
Speaker 2: the scenes last time as well, that when the reporter
27:44
Speaker 2: was called a slut, and you just think.
27:47
Speaker 5: It's just really fr story of government. This has been
27:51
Speaker 5: a story of government complacency, state and federal four years.
27:54
Speaker 7: It has. Indeed.
27:55
Speaker 2: All right, I've been really keen, Peter to ask you
27:58
Speaker 2: about the Trump deal with Iran that's on the table,
28:03
Speaker 2: that hasn't yet been signed.
28:05
Speaker 7: I'm keen to know your thoughts in it. Now.
28:07
Speaker 2: The sticking point is obviously Tehran once sanctions relief, once
28:11
Speaker 2: it's frozen, assets released. The US wants a firm commitment
28:15
Speaker 2: on the nuclear program, you know, giving up the enriched uranium. Now,
28:20
Speaker 2: what's your view of the deal so far? Are you
28:23
Speaker 2: worried the US is going to sign it with this
28:26
Speaker 2: thirty day window to give a Ran more time.
28:31
Speaker 5: Deeply worried. I mean, it just doesn't look to me
28:34
Speaker 5: like there is any realistic deal on the table. The
28:37
Speaker 5: Uranians are saying they do not want to talk about
28:40
Speaker 5: the nuclear component of this until deal is agreed. They're
28:45
Speaker 5: saying that they want to be able to maintain the
28:48
Speaker 5: ability to process uranium in country, and they're saying they
28:52
Speaker 5: want to continue the new level of control which they
28:57
Speaker 5: have asserted over the Strait of Hormuz. I cannot see
29:00
Speaker 5: how Trump can find any of that acceptable. Showing the
29:06
Speaker 5: issue is he seems desperate not to want to resume
29:10
Speaker 5: military confrontation, and the Iranians know that, so they're sort
29:14
Speaker 5: of playing this game of chicken with Trump. But frankly,
29:19
Speaker 5: there is no deal. There is no credible deal on
29:21
Speaker 5: the table, and I think the test is what is
29:26
Speaker 5: Trump prepared to let the Iranians get away with at
29:29
Speaker 5: the stage in order not to have to continue with
29:31
Speaker 5: military force.
29:33
Speaker 2: The way I see it is that the US and
29:36
Speaker 2: Israel effectively won the military war, but Iran's winning the
29:42
Speaker 2: negotiation at this point in time anyway, because you're right.
29:45
Speaker 2: I mean Trump wanted to end this at about you know,
29:48
Speaker 2: six to eight weeks in. He still hasn't been able
29:51
Speaker 2: to end it. He's under incredible domestic political pressure.
29:56
Speaker 5: Yes, And I wouldn't overstate how much the Americans won
30:00
Speaker 5: military war, because there is significant Iranian military capability still
30:04
Speaker 5: present and they're doing their best to build it back
30:06
Speaker 5: as fast as they possibly can. So Iaran, in a
30:10
Speaker 5: funny way, has come out of this stronger, politically stronger.
30:15
Speaker 5: The Americans have come out of it looking like they
30:17
Speaker 5: miscalculated going into the war in the first place, and
30:20
Speaker 5: Trump is politically weaker. That's a disaster for the world, frankly,
30:24
Speaker 5: to be left in this situation.
30:27
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, very quickly.
30:29
Speaker 2: Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, has spoken about the importance
30:32
Speaker 2: of security in the Indo Pacific.
30:34
Speaker 18: Have a look, sixty percent, sixty percent of global maritime
30:40
Speaker 18: trade passes through the Indoor Pacific, and it's a vital
30:43
Speaker 18: national interest, not just to the four countries represented here today,
30:46
Speaker 18: but to dozens and dozens of countries countless countries around
30:49
Speaker 18: the world.
30:51
Speaker 2: Look, there was also, you know, conversations about the importance
30:54
Speaker 2: of the Quad, which of course was set up to
30:56
Speaker 2: counter Chinese influence and aggression. But Peter, this is at
31:01
Speaker 2: the same time as Trump had that very warm meeting
31:03
Speaker 2: with President she What do you make of American foreign
31:07
Speaker 2: policy on China at the moment.
31:11
Speaker 5: Look, I think Trump tends to be too polite when
31:14
Speaker 5: he goes and visits his authoritarian chums. The real direction
31:18
Speaker 5: of American policy is to continue to push back against China,
31:22
Speaker 5: and the QUAD is becoming an increasingly important part of that,
31:26
Speaker 5: and Rubio continues to burnish his presidential credentials. So I
31:31
Speaker 5: think what's happening with the QUAD is mostly positive. I
31:33
Speaker 5: think it's being driven intelligently by Marco Rubio, and I
31:38
Speaker 5: don't think we should imagine that Trump is really conceding
31:41
Speaker 5: much to China, even though he was probably too chummy
31:44
Speaker 5: on that very short visit to Beijing.
31:47
Speaker 2: I really hope Rubio is the presidential nominee next time.
31:51
Speaker 7: Router.
31:51
Speaker 2: I think he's utterly brilliant, very impressive. All right, Peter Jennings,
31:55
Speaker 2: thank you so much. Still to calm the threats and
31:58
Speaker 2: messages of abut directed at witnesses of the Royal Commission,
32:02
Speaker 2: and Adam Crichton claims the Treasurer has misquoted his research
32:07
Speaker 2: in Parliament.
32:08
Speaker 7: He'll explain after the break.
32:14
Speaker 2: Good news today that we're unlikely to have a rate
32:17
Speaker 2: rise at the next RBA board meeting.
32:19
Speaker 7: After headline inflation fell from four.
32:21
Speaker 2: Point six to four point two percent, although the irba's
32:25
Speaker 2: preferred measure of trimmed mean inflation has risen to three
32:29
Speaker 2: point four percent, which is the highest level since September
32:32
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. The Treasurer Jim Chalmers said the fuel
32:36
Speaker 2: excise cut helped bring headline inflation down and of course
32:40
Speaker 2: the coalition, as you know, campaigned for this.
32:43
Speaker 4: What these results show is that the government's decisive action
32:48
Speaker 4: to slash the fuel excise is helping to take some
32:51
Speaker 4: of the sting out of price pressures from the conflict.
32:56
Speaker 2: And joining me now is IPA chief economist Adam Crichton.
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Speaker 7: Adam to see you.
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Speaker 2: But Adam, this is obviously a temporary reduction in inflation
33:05
Speaker 2: while the fuel excise is in place.
33:09
Speaker 7: Yeah, that fuel is.
33:11
Speaker 6: An arbitrary reduction. Yes, Look it was a twenty six
33:13
Speaker 6: cent reduction per leter and that's basically what affected the
33:17
Speaker 6: headline rate from four point six to four point two.
33:20
Speaker 6: The more serious rate is the true mean rate, which
33:23
Speaker 6: is seventy percent of goods and services in the middle
33:25
Speaker 6: if you like, and that crept up from three point
33:27
Speaker 6: three to three point four percent over the twelve months
33:30
Speaker 6: to March, and that is still far too high. I mean,
33:33
Speaker 6: the Reserve Bank targets between two and three. And if
33:36
Speaker 6: you're having three and a half percent inflation every year
33:38
Speaker 6: of even five years or ten years, the power, you know,
33:41
Speaker 6: the purchasing power of your money is falling very rapidly,
33:44
Speaker 6: so you know, it's very embarrassing. And also the governments
33:46
Speaker 6: out there saying, oh, we'll give workers back two hundred
33:49
Speaker 6: and fifty dollars on their tax, but bracket creep at
33:51
Speaker 6: three and a half percent a year is huge.
33:54
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is. It's it's massive.
33:56
Speaker 2: So you know, we know that Australia's level of inflation
34:00
Speaker 2: and was much higher than most other developed nations before
34:04
Speaker 2: the war.
34:05
Speaker 7: So this is an.
34:06
Speaker 2: Issue that Australians in particular have been have been bearing
34:11
Speaker 2: the brun top.
34:13
Speaker 6: Yeah, certainly that's true. I mean, most nations in the
34:16
Speaker 6: OECD have an inflation rate with a two in front
34:18
Speaker 6: of it, and we have a three and need the
34:20
Speaker 6: forecasts in the Reserve Bank or the Treasury, they have
34:24
Speaker 6: a four or even a five in front of them
34:26
Speaker 6: in the coming few months. I believe the Reserve Bank
34:29
Speaker 6: things that could even hit five percent in the next
34:31
Speaker 6: six months because of petrol. But not just because of petrol,
34:33
Speaker 6: and not just because of the war, as you point out.
34:36
Speaker 6: I mean, this has been a problem for six months,
34:38
Speaker 6: and it's largely because of government spending. You know, we
34:41
Speaker 6: have the biggest increase at the federal level in government
34:44
Speaker 6: spending since the Whitler era. And you know, all these
34:47
Speaker 6: improvements in the Art years are just fictitious reductions in
34:50
Speaker 6: spending on ndis, which of course won't happen. So we're
34:54
Speaker 6: going to you know, we're going to burst through twenty
34:56
Speaker 6: seven percent of GDP.
34:58
Speaker 7: It's very worrying, Adam.
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Speaker 2: In question time today, you claim that the Treasurer misquoted
35:03
Speaker 2: your IPA research using it to support his tax changes.
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Speaker 7: Will let's first have a look at what he said.
35:09
Speaker 13: The Institute of Public Affairs.
35:12
Speaker 4: Mister Speaker said that indexation is a more rational and
35:16
Speaker 4: economically efficient way to tax capital gains.
35:18
Speaker 3: Mister Street and mister Speaker, all.
35:21
Speaker 7: Right, so what did you misrepresent?
35:23
Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's great that the treasure is ready
35:26
Speaker 6: my research. But you know, we basically put out a
35:29
Speaker 6: very detailed paper months before the budget that said that
35:33
Speaker 6: in an ideal system, you would not tax inflation, and
35:36
Speaker 6: of course that intels indexation, which is what.
35:38
Speaker 7: The government's done.
35:39
Speaker 6: But the system that we envisaged had much much lower
35:42
Speaker 6: rates of income tax, not forty seven percent, not forty
35:45
Speaker 6: one percent. So I mean it was a misrepresentation. We
35:49
Speaker 6: do not support the government's proposals. You know, the minimum
35:52
Speaker 6: thirty percent rate, there's no five year averaging. The top
35:56
Speaker 6: marginal rate is too high. This is going to be
35:58
Speaker 6: terrible for startups and the tech industry. But the point
36:01
Speaker 6: I was making is the fifty percent discount we have
36:03
Speaker 6: now is not necessarily a tax cut in a high
36:06
Speaker 6: inflation environment.
36:07
Speaker 2: But just to get to the number of I guess
36:11
Speaker 2: your argument. I mean, I know you can have a
36:14
Speaker 2: little bit controversial views sometimes when it comes to economics, Adam,
36:17
Speaker 2: but do you support to getting rid of the capital
36:20
Speaker 2: gains tax discount if income tax rates were much lower?
36:26
Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, if they were half what they were, if
36:28
Speaker 6: the top rate is what Paul Keating wants, is what
36:30
Speaker 6: Bill Kelty wants, thirty nine percent top rate, including the
36:34
Speaker 6: medicare levy. Yes, I think it would be an improvement,
36:37
Speaker 6: but that is not what is being proposed. So you know,
36:40
Speaker 6: no other you know, there's no other country in the
36:42
Speaker 6: OECD that has an arbitrary discount after twelve months. Right,
36:46
Speaker 6: and you know taxing inflation is not a good thing.
36:48
Speaker 6: We currently tax inflation, but the proposed system is far
36:51
Speaker 6: worse than what we currently have.
36:53
Speaker 7: All right, Adam Crichton, thank you so much. Thanks still
36:58
Speaker 7: to come.
36:59
Speaker 2: There's a new space with Beijing and Washington both trying
37:02
Speaker 2: to put people back on the moon before the other.
37:05
Speaker 2: Plus how witnesses to the Royal Commission are being threatened
37:08
Speaker 2: and abused.
37:09
Speaker 7: The extent of this is unbelievable. It's after the break,
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Speaker 7: welcome back.
37:16
Speaker 2: Well, Australians courageously came forward to share their harrowing experiences
37:22
Speaker 2: of anti Semitism at the Royal Commission.
37:24
Speaker 7: But in an ugly ironic.
37:26
Speaker 2: Twist, these witnesses have in turn become targets of vicious
37:30
Speaker 2: online hate simply.
37:32
Speaker 7: For giving evidence.
37:34
Speaker 2: Between the fourth and twenty fifth of May, the Dare
37:36
Speaker 2: Foundation has cataloged and reviewed over one thousand posts and
37:40
Speaker 2: comments containing anti Semitic or abusive material which was directed
37:46
Speaker 2: toward the witnesses, and some are truly horrific.
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Speaker 7: SHANEA.
37:50
Speaker 2: Gutnick's father was killed at Bondai Ruven Morrison when he
37:54
Speaker 2: bravely tried to fend off the shooter. Yet someone wrote
37:58
Speaker 2: this on a post off her and her Rabbad subhuman father.
38:06
Speaker 2: In another Facebook post, someone said, how do we eradicate
38:09
Speaker 2: this filth and scum? Can we rework the no longer
38:12
Speaker 2: used oil refineries as makeshift concentration camps. I don't even
38:18
Speaker 2: want to read this out loud, it's so revolting. They
38:21
Speaker 2: were also posts against brave Jewish children who came forward
38:24
Speaker 2: to share their stories of bullying, and in response, someone
38:28
Speaker 2: online said, that's terrible that only a couple of students
38:32
Speaker 2: are throwing Roman salutes Roman being Nazi. We need to
38:36
Speaker 2: pick up those numbers. That is how we used to
38:39
Speaker 2: salute the flag and pledge allegiance white power. I'm not
38:45
Speaker 2: even going to say the rest of those slogans. It's
38:47
Speaker 2: just terrible.
38:48
Speaker 7: And these are just a few out of more than
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Speaker 7: a thousand. It is sickening.
38:54
Speaker 2: And the Commissioner, Virginia Bell called out some of this
38:57
Speaker 2: abuse yesterday.
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Speaker 8: Quite what this undiluted level of hatred and bigotry directed
39:06
Speaker 8: towards members of the Jewish community is thought to benefit
39:16
Speaker 8: by those who post these remarks is lost on me.
39:22
Speaker 2: Joining me to discuss this animal is the universal President
39:25
Speaker 2: of HATSOLA, the Volunteer Jewish Ambulance Service.
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Speaker 7: Elie Ellie, Welcome to Australia. So good to see you here.
39:33
Speaker 2: Look the irony that we're having this Royal Commission into
39:36
Speaker 2: antisemitism and the very people who are brave enough to
39:39
Speaker 2: give evidence, even children, then become targeted.
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Speaker 19: Well, we are living in very challenging times now and
39:46
Speaker 19: the world is looking at Australia. It's Europe looking at Australia.
39:51
Speaker 19: United States are looking at Australia and seeing what is
39:54
Speaker 19: Australia doing to stop the hatred towards a small sector
39:59
Speaker 19: of Australia, the Jewish people. And I live in between
40:03
Speaker 19: Israel in New York and other cities around the United States,
40:06
Speaker 19: and we see what's going on in Australia. I've been
40:09
Speaker 19: to Bondai Beach today. People are worried about what's going
40:13
Speaker 19: to happen after the Royal Commission come out with their results,
40:17
Speaker 19: and to see the tax on the witnesses and how
40:22
Speaker 19: people are just going out and threatening them and bullying
40:27
Speaker 19: them and trying to intimidate them. It saddens me. It
40:31
Speaker 19: saddens every Jew in the world and any personal cares
40:34
Speaker 19: about other humans. This is not only a Jewish issue,
40:37
Speaker 19: this is an issue against humanity.
40:40
Speaker 2: I mean, you're American, you live in Israel. You went
40:45
Speaker 2: to Bondai today, as you said, you would have seen
40:47
Speaker 2: Archer Park, this big open grass area. What's emerged at
40:50
Speaker 2: the Royal Commission is that the Jewish community had actually
40:53
Speaker 2: asked New South Wales police to have officers permanently stationed
40:58
Speaker 2: there and this refused and basically the community were left
41:03
Speaker 2: vulnerable like sitting ducks.
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Speaker 19: Well, I really hope people woke up here in Australia
41:09
Speaker 19: because we in America, in Israel are suffering from terrorism
41:14
Speaker 19: and anti Semitic remarks day and night all over the
41:19
Speaker 19: United States, in America, in Israel, in Europe. Australia was
41:23
Speaker 19: always a nicer environment. It was it was always like heaven.
41:28
Speaker 19: I think Australia was always announced as one of the
41:31
Speaker 19: greatest places in the world.
41:32
Speaker 7: To live, the lucky country.
41:33
Speaker 19: And I think it has to be stopped immediately, and
41:36
Speaker 19: I'm very happy that this Royal Commission is actually working
41:40
Speaker 19: hard now. But the police have to get very involved,
41:43
Speaker 19: the government have to be very involved, not only protecting
41:45
Speaker 19: the Jewish people. This is not only for the Jewish people.
41:48
Speaker 19: Jewish people are always the first ones attack, but it's really everyone.
41:52
Speaker 19: Every minority that could live here, want to live here peacefully,
41:57
Speaker 19: should be protected. And the Jewish people are the first
41:59
Speaker 19: one that the government to worry about.
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Speaker 2: Well, the elevated terror threat level is a risk to
42:05
Speaker 2: all Australians, of course, Ellie. When I interviewed your well
42:10
Speaker 2: the Israel's Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yah who right after
42:13
Speaker 2: the Bondai attack, he said to me that had this
42:16
Speaker 2: happened in Israel, it would have been over very quickly
42:19
Speaker 2: because so many people have weapons. But here in Australia,
42:24
Speaker 2: no one had weapons. And the Jewish community, the security
42:28
Speaker 2: Group known as CSG, had asked to be armed and
42:32
Speaker 2: that was refused. What do you think about this question
42:35
Speaker 2: that the Role Commission is examining at the moment. Should
42:37
Speaker 2: the Jewish security be able to have weapons to protect.
42:41
Speaker 19: Obviously this is not a question. You see this now
42:45
Speaker 19: all over the United states where synagogues are attack. In Pittsburgh,
42:50
Speaker 19: terrorists came in Achuzbla. Terrorists just drove into a synagogue
42:56
Speaker 19: where hundreds of children, little kids were there, kindergarten children,
43:01
Speaker 19: and they have arm guards in the synagogue now protecting
43:05
Speaker 19: the people. This is something the world's changing very quickly,
43:09
Speaker 19: the radical attacks coming from radical Islam and other groups
43:15
Speaker 19: who are very very like Nazis, really like pro Nazis
43:19
Speaker 19: twenty twenty six.
43:20
Speaker 2: It's this weird bix of ideologies between the neo Nazis
43:25
Speaker 2: and the Islamist extremists.
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Speaker 19: Definitely, you see when they become very extreme, they meet
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Speaker 19: the left and the right extremes meet and the first
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Speaker 19: one they go target is the Jews. Of course, the
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Speaker 19: Jews have to be protected. And I think this is
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Speaker 19: the Jewish people in this country, Australia, such a gorgeous country,
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Speaker 19: should always be feeling at home. They should never feel
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Speaker 19: like they have to run away. They ran away from
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Speaker 19: places in Europe in nineteen thirty eight, thirty nine, forty.
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Speaker 19: They should never happen here in Australia. They should the
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Speaker 19: government should make sure they could be protected.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you know so many Australia and Jews have
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Speaker 2: left to move to Israel, among other places.
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Speaker 19: And it saddens me because I see it happening in France,
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Speaker 19: I see it happening in Belgium, and it's happening in
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Speaker 19: other places in Europe. Thank God, it's not happening in
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Speaker 19: the United States. But it should not happen in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Now I want to get to very quickly your organization Hatsala,
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Speaker 2: Now we have that here as well, but you're the universal,
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Speaker 2: the global head of it. Your ambulances were targeted in
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Speaker 2: London in a terror attack.
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Speaker 7: Nine people have been arrested in relation to that.
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Speaker 2: One of your workers was shot at Bondai Yankee and
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Speaker 2: if you've met him.
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Speaker 19: Yet, I met him, yeah, well they have. I run.
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Speaker 19: I'm the president and founder of United at Tell of
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Speaker 19: Israel and I visit a lot of the different groups
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Speaker 19: all around the world. And they have the Hatzel of
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Speaker 19: Northwest London and they're incredible people. They always help everyone,
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Speaker 19: Jews and Andrews, everyone call them for free, they don't charge.
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Speaker 19: And seeing that in the middle of the night, terrorists,
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Speaker 19: real terrorists who are these are people who are for
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Speaker 19: months or maybe years or planning to hurt Jews, and
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Speaker 19: now they took the right opportunity where the hatred is
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Speaker 19: so wide all over the internet. It burned ambulances that
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Speaker 19: are going to save lives of people who are Jewish
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Speaker 19: and non Jewish. They do free service, they volunteers. I
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Speaker 19: visited today and I met Yankee. Yankee super I call
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Speaker 19: them superman. And they have, you know, groups of first
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Speaker 19: responders here of Attala and the community service here in
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Speaker 19: Bondai and the whole Sydney seem the love to help people.
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Speaker 19: Matter of fact, yesterday I was having lunch with Yankee
45:44
Speaker 19: and Mendy and we had an emergency call of a woman.
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Speaker 19: When we got to her, I went with them. She
45:50
Speaker 19: was hardly breathing. She was in the last breath. We
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Speaker 19: were treating her and saved her life until the ambulance
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Speaker 19: showed up and she I found out she wasn't even Jewish.
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Speaker 19: She called hot Cellar.
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Speaker 7: They're amazed, amazing.
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Speaker 19: Help the government here should protect the community here. They
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Speaker 19: are so lovely. I meet the Jews here are so
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Speaker 19: incredible loyal citizens of Australia.
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Speaker 2: A story for another day, But Hatsola saved my life
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Speaker 2: when the New Southwest ambulance took two hours to show
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Speaker 2: up about six or seven years ago.
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Speaker 7: Don't have time for that now.
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Speaker 19: Well, I love the ambulance services here. They should learn
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Speaker 19: from the Jewish services how to even improve better because
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Speaker 19: they do great work, very and they work very.
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Speaker 7: Close with each other. Ellie Bah.
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Speaker 2: Such a pleasure and a privilege to have you here
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Speaker 2: in Australia. Thank you so much for all the hard
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Speaker 2: work you do and your team around the world.
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Speaker 19: Love to come again.
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Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you.
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Speaker 2: All right, coming up, America and China are now racing
46:43
Speaker 2: to control the moon.
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Speaker 7: This isn't science fiction. Talk about that.
46:46
Speaker 2: After the break, President Trump says his latest medical check
46:53
Speaker 2: at Well to Read went perfectly after spending more than
46:56
Speaker 2: three hours there for what the White House called preventative
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Speaker 2: and dental checkups, and the White House declared it a
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Speaker 2: perfect bill of health. Joining me now is Skynese contributor
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Speaker 2: Kosher Ghada Kosha.
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Speaker 7: Has the media reported this as such?
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Speaker 17: I think it's probably safe to say that Chari. It
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Speaker 17: is tradition, as we know, for presidents to do these
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Speaker 17: annual or semi annual health chechs release it to the public.
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Speaker 5: He is old.
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Speaker 17: Everybody can see that at almost eighty years old, he'd
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Speaker 17: be the second oldest president, So just the natural concerns
47:32
Speaker 17: that come with that are valid. And of course we'll
47:34
Speaker 17: never forget the Biden fiasco when all those health bills
47:37
Speaker 17: were being released, but the whole world could see there
47:39
Speaker 17: was real cognitive decline over there. So I think people
47:42
Speaker 17: are just scarred by that and are probably happy to
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Speaker 17: see these physicals take place, and these results being released.
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Speaker 7: Now tell us about this space race.
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Speaker 2: So NASA's already ordering the landers, rovers and drones from
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Speaker 2: Moon base near the lunar South Pole, and there seems
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Speaker 2: to be a bit a space race going on now
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Speaker 2: with China as well.
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Speaker 17: It's really a fun topic, I think to think about
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Speaker 17: because we're also negative with everything with the news, and
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Speaker 17: this is something aspirational. It harkens back to nineteen sixty nine,
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Speaker 17: of course, when Neil Armstrong landing on the Moon and
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Speaker 17: that was just such a symbolic victory for the US.
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Speaker 17: It is something that President Trump, who really thinks a
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Speaker 17: lot about symbolism, has been focused on in his first term.
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Speaker 17: He set up the Artemis Crew, which is the Artymist program,
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Speaker 17: which is the same crew that just went and pivoted
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Speaker 17: around the Moon a couple a month ago, and that
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Speaker 17: same crew is scheduled right now. The target is to
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Speaker 17: land on the Moon by twenty twenty eight. He also
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Speaker 17: set up Space Force. He's put a lot of budget
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Speaker 17: into it. He's creating these public private partnerships with the
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Speaker 17: private sector, Starlink and others that are looking at that.
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Speaker 17: But China, as you mentioned, also understands the power of
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Speaker 17: symbolism and winning in various verticals, and they've got a
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Speaker 17: state run the way the Chinese would do it, a
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Speaker 17: state run program that is quite formidable, and they are
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Speaker 17: doing something similar by twenty nine twenty thirty, So that
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Speaker 17: gap is narrowing. And I think the symbolic value as
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Speaker 17: well as the scientific value is real, and it definitely
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Speaker 17: is another capstone between this race between these two superpowers.
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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the Senate runoffs. This
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Speaker 2: is making, of course big political news in the United States.
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Speaker 2: The big winner out of the Texas Senate runoff is
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Speaker 2: of course Trump because his endorsed candidate Ken Paxton has
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Speaker 2: crushed the four term senator John Connan. Can you tell
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Speaker 2: us about how this is going, how this happened in
49:33
Speaker 2: the primary round.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, this was a big story with Senator corn in
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Speaker 17: four terms, as you say, twenty three years in the Senate.
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Speaker 17: He was I think you could use the word milk
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Speaker 17: toast or establishment Tea didn't back Trump as vigorously as
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Speaker 17: Trump would like. And Ken Patson was the sitting Attorney
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Speaker 17: General of Texas. He's certainly had some ethics scandals and
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Speaker 17: other things, but it didn't matter. Texans don't care about that.
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Speaker 17: He's very much a Maga type and in that mold
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Speaker 17: and endorsed him late in the game, and that you know,
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Speaker 17: he was already doing well without put him over the edge.
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Speaker 17: He trounced corne In actually, and then that similar pattern
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Speaker 17: we saw in Kentucky with Massy. That one actually surprised
50:11
Speaker 17: a lot of people because Massi did have a lot
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Speaker 17: of a true constituency. He was defeated by a Trump
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Speaker 17: back candidate. In Louisiana, Bill Cassidy was another one. He
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Speaker 17: was one of the few Republicans that voted to impeach Trump.
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Speaker 17: After j six He's been trounced as well and he's out.
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Speaker 17: So Trump actually has a ninety five percent success rate
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Speaker 17: right now of his backed candidates winning, and it is
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Speaker 17: an interesting dynamic because he is suffering in the polls,
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Speaker 17: you know, on the other side, but it is still
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Speaker 17: his party.
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Speaker 2: But the polls and you know those high profile won't
50:37
Speaker 2: mention names, but those high profile commentators who turned against
50:40
Speaker 2: him on social media. But look he's still doing well.
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Speaker 2: So there you go, Coachigata, thank you so much, and
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Speaker 2: I'll see you tomorrow at eight.
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Speaker 7: Right now, he is Paul Murray