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My Top 23 Crime Movies Ranked · Midnight Movie Theatre

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Speaker 1: Last week I spoke with Eddie McNamara about his new
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Speaker 1: book Zodia Actually the True Story of a Fake serial Killer,
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Speaker 1: and I just got me thinking about crime movies and stuff,
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Speaker 1: so I thought, why not put together a list of
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Speaker 1: some of my favorite crime movies. And I kind of
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Speaker 1: went off of some of my more recent watches, like
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Speaker 1: say maybe and then in the last five years movies
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Speaker 1: that I've seen, And there's a couple that break that rule,
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Speaker 1: but for the most part, i'd say, like it's about
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Speaker 1: a five year period is what I'm going off of here,
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Speaker 1: and I came up with twenty three movies, so I'm
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Speaker 1: going to start with my least favorite, go to my favorite.
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Speaker 1: But these are some of my favorite crime movies that
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Speaker 1: I've seen of all time. There are going to be
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Speaker 1: movies that probably should be on this lists that aren't
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Speaker 1: because I haven't seen them yet. Like Memories of Murder
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Speaker 1: is one movie that I always see recommended and I
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Speaker 1: really want to see it. By the sounds of it
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Speaker 1: and the description, I would say that's probably.
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Speaker 2: A movie I am going to like.
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Speaker 1: I really just haven't had any time to watch it yet,
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Speaker 1: so once I get around to it, it'll probably get
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Speaker 1: added to the list, and we'll have twenty four of
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Speaker 1: these damn movies. And there's other movies that you might
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Speaker 1: think should be on this list that you're not going
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Speaker 1: to see, like the movie Long Legs, And that's because
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Speaker 1: just overall, I think it's kind of shitty, and then
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Speaker 1: on top of that, as a crime movie, I think
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Speaker 1: it's extra shitty. And hopefully that doesn't turn you off
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Speaker 1: of this video. You can kind of just maybe see
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Speaker 1: where my thought process is at with this whole thing.
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Speaker 1: If you're a fan of Long Legs, stick around that
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Speaker 1: we can agree to disagree and let bygones be bygones,
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Speaker 1: and maybe we can get past this. Maybe we can
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Speaker 1: watch some other movies besides Long Legs.
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Speaker 2: For once.
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Speaker 1: I feel like it started out strong, like it had
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Speaker 1: some potential, but it quickly went off the rails and
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Speaker 1: you kind of saw what was happening by the second act,
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Speaker 1: and then as it went on the supernatural element, and
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Speaker 1: it just kind of felt like a cop out, like
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Speaker 1: it felt like they weren't going to be able to
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Speaker 1: pull off a strong crime movie, so they just said
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Speaker 1: it's the Devil. The devil did it. It's about a
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Speaker 1: devil doll. I said, what is this the movie The
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Speaker 1: Black Devil Doll from Hell. I'd rather watch that movie
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Speaker 1: than Long Legs, to be honest. So let's get right
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Speaker 1: to it. My number twenty three movie at the bottom
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Speaker 1: of this list is going to be the David Fincher movie.
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Speaker 1: Seven Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman, Gwyneth Paltrow. We got fucking
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Speaker 1: Fox the other guy's name?
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Speaker 2: What the hell? This is kind of funny.
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Speaker 1: I just pulled up the Wikipedia just to get like
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Speaker 1: an idea of like who's in the movie and stuff
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Speaker 1: like that, you know, just a little refresher since it's
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Speaker 1: been a while for some of these movies, and Kevin
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Speaker 1: Spacey is nowhere to be found. I don't see his
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Speaker 1: name on here anywhere. And I was kind of thinking, like,
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, I know there's another big name in
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Speaker 1: this movie, and yeah, he's just not mentioned at all.
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Speaker 1: They just wiped his ass clean from the whole Wikipedia.
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Speaker 1: Apparently there's not even a picture of him on here
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Speaker 1: with the cast. That's crazy, I guess, because maybe because
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Speaker 1: he raped somebody, like some boy or something like that.
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Speaker 1: I can't I didn't really look into what he was
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Speaker 1: up to, but I thought I remember hearing something about him.
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Speaker 2: Maybe being a little raper. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I'll have to do an episode on what Kevin Spacey's
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Speaker 1: been up to. Yeah, this movie, it's at the bottom
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Speaker 1: of my list, even though I would say I like
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Speaker 1: it as a crime movie overall, just doesn't stand out
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Speaker 1: to me as one that I want to revisit very often.
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Speaker 1: Like I think it's it's all right but after But
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Speaker 1: as far as like rewatchability goes, I don't really hold
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Speaker 1: this one very high. I feel like when it's kind
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Speaker 1: of a shocking the first time you see all the
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Speaker 1: crazy murders and the idea behind how this killer is
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Speaker 1: choosing his victims or whatever, like it's a it's an
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Speaker 1: interesting enough story one time around. But I tried to
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Speaker 1: rewatch it fairly recently in the way last year or so,
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Speaker 1: and I didn't. I just can't really get into it
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Speaker 1: once you know the ending and kind of all the
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Speaker 1: details and everything. With this one, it's hard to get
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Speaker 1: invested into this movie.
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Speaker 2: Personally.
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Speaker 1: I think the performances are pretty good. It's a dreary movie.
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Speaker 1: It's always raining. I feel like everything looks yellow or
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Speaker 1: brown in this movie, and after getting through the what's
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Speaker 1: in the box thing the first time. I feel like
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Speaker 1: on rewatch it's just not as effective. For whatever reason,
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Speaker 1: My number twenty two movie is going to be the
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two film Watcher. This movie stars Mica Monroe.
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Speaker 1: It follows Julia. She's a young American woman who moves
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Speaker 1: to Bucharest. I say that, right, Bucharest. So yeah, Julia
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Speaker 1: moves to Bucharest with her husband after he's been relocated
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Speaker 1: for work, and he's all excited about this. She doesn't
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Speaker 1: speak the language, so she feels trapped, pretty isolated, like
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Speaker 1: she can't get out and do anything because she can't
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Speaker 1: communicate very well. And eventually she's sitting in her apartment
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Speaker 1: while her husband's at work, and she's just kind of
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Speaker 1: looking across the way at like this, you know, thirty
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Speaker 1: some stories of other apartments across from hers, and she
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Speaker 1: feels like she's seeing somebody watching out the window at
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Speaker 1: the same time, and all she's seen is this like silhouette,
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Speaker 1: you know, and she's kind of like, you know, starting
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Speaker 1: to think, like, hey, is that motherfucker looking at me
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Speaker 1: a little bit? And so she puts her hand up
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Speaker 1: and waves at him, and then he waves back, and
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Speaker 1: she's like a fuck, and she gets all freaked out
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Speaker 1: and she starts to become more and more paranoid that
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Speaker 1: this person across the way is watching her. Really great
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Speaker 1: psychological thriller. A lot of awesome tension building throughout this movie.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of uncertainty, paranoia, isolation, and then towards
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Speaker 1: the end you get this really satisfying climax. And one
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Speaker 1: of the strongest things about it is the back and
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Speaker 1: forth and the wondering is she going crazy? Is she
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Speaker 1: just being paranoid or does she have legitimate concerns for
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Speaker 1: what's going on? Because there's a serial killer that's in
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Speaker 1: the area. I think his name is the Spider or
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Speaker 1: something like that, or that's like his nickname, and she's
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Speaker 1: starting to wonder if maybe the guy that she waved
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Speaker 1: to isn't a serial killer or not. So she she
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Speaker 1: could just be freaking herself out for no reason. You'll
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Speaker 1: have to watch the movie and find out. Number twenty
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Speaker 1: one is going to be the nineteen ninety six movie Freeway.
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Speaker 1: This stars a young Reese Witherspoon, and key for Sutherland.
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Speaker 1: So some heavy hitters in this movie. This is one
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Speaker 1: that I just randomly watched one day on Prime. I
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Speaker 1: hadn't heard anything about it, but I was like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: it sounds interesting. It's about a fourteen year old, illiterate
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Speaker 1: teenager that lives in South Los Angeles. Her parents get
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Speaker 1: arrested for drugs and I and like sexual abuse charges
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Speaker 1: or something like that. Her I think her stepfather is
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Speaker 1: abusing her, and you kind of see that in the
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Speaker 1: early parts of the movie, and it's really disgusting. It's
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Speaker 1: just one of those things where it's like kind of
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Speaker 1: catches you off guard pretty bad if you don't know
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Speaker 1: about it. Going into it, I was kind of like,
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Speaker 1: fucked is a nasty, fucking movie right away. But she's
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Speaker 1: getting put in the child services or childcare or whatever,
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Speaker 1: and she takes off. She starts hitchhiking to go to
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Speaker 1: her grandma's house. She gets picked up by Keifer Sutherland,
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Speaker 1: who's playing Bob wolvertone. He's known as the I five Killer.
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Speaker 1: He's a serial killer, and he lets her know, Hey,
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Speaker 1: guess what you fucked up? The wrong guy picked you
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Speaker 1: up as a hitchhiker. I'm gonna kill you. Lucky for her,
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Speaker 1: her drug dealer boyfriend gave her a gun to sell
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Speaker 1: to make some money. So she pulls the damn gun
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Speaker 1: out and she fucking whoops his ass. I think she
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Speaker 1: almost kills him, or she thinks that she kills him,
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Speaker 1: and she leaves, and basically Bob puts her on trial
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Speaker 1: for attempted murder or whatever, and so she has to
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Speaker 1: try to prove that he's a serial killer and all
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Speaker 1: this stuff. While he's playing the victim, he's basically hamming
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Speaker 1: it up and crying and stuff like that. In his
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Speaker 1: everyday life, he seems like a an upstanding citizen. He's
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Speaker 1: like married and has kids and stuff like that, and
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Speaker 1: a good job and stuff. No one would suspect him
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Speaker 1: as the I five killer. Number twenty is the movie
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Speaker 1: Super Dark Times. This is kind of like a teenage
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Speaker 1: high school movie. It takes place in nineteen ninety six
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Speaker 1: in upstate New York. It's about two teenage best friends,
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Speaker 1: Zach and Josh. This movie came out in twenty seventeen,
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Speaker 1: and this is kind of where for me, the lines
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Speaker 1: of like crime movies get crossed a little bit. It
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Speaker 1: was kind of a tough one picking and choosing like
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Speaker 1: what is even considered a crime movie because it's kind
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Speaker 1: of an umbrella term that covers several genres like mystery, suspense, thriller,
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Speaker 1: even horror. Obviously, Like I feel like if you're just
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Speaker 1: going based off of what's a crime movie, any horror
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Speaker 1: movie and most action movies are going to be they're
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Speaker 1: going to have crimes in them, so you could call
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Speaker 1: them a crime movie or whatever. Like you know, Friday
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Speaker 1: the Thirteenth, Guess what, Jason's mom has commit crimes because
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Speaker 1: he's killing everybody. But you want to typically think of
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Speaker 1: that as a crime movie, now, would you. So that's
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Speaker 1: something to really dive deep into when you're thinking about
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Speaker 1: movies and how to categorize them. Yeah, think about that.
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Speaker 1: I don't fucking blow your mind if you think about
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Speaker 1: that for too long. So anyway, Super Dark Times is
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Speaker 1: basically about this. These high school kids. They both they
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Speaker 1: both like the same girl at school. They hang out
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Speaker 1: with some friends. They start fucking doing shit with the
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Speaker 1: samurai sword for some reason.
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Speaker 2: This is one that I have.
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Speaker 1: It's probably been it's probably hitting the five year mark
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Speaker 1: for me, so I'm not exactly fresh on this one.
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Speaker 1: An accident happens. They get to they have an accident.
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Speaker 1: One of the kids, I think he accidentally Like horror
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Speaker 1: carries himself on the sword, and they're like, shit, let's
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Speaker 1: pretend like that didn't happen.
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Speaker 2: So they all run away and.
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Speaker 1: They don't tell They try not to tell anybody that
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Speaker 1: like that this accident happened that left this teenage boy dead.
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Speaker 1: And then pretty much the rest of the movie is
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Speaker 1: just tensions building between them. You know, some of them
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Speaker 1: want to come forward, some of them don't. Their friendships
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Speaker 1: start to deteriorate, the jealousy between the two friends over
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Speaker 1: this girl that starts to build and build, and there's
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Speaker 1: a pretty interesting twist at the end that involves the girl.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into it, but there's some theories
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Speaker 1: about it online that I think are pretty interesting, and
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Speaker 1: I think they actually do hold some white So check
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Speaker 1: out Super Dark Times. Let me know what you think
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Speaker 1: about that ending and look up the Allison theory and
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Speaker 1: comment down below if you think the Allison theory is
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Speaker 1: one hundo legit or if you think it's just a
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Speaker 1: bunch of bogus ass bullshit. Number nineteen is gonna be
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Speaker 1: the movie funny games. Like I said, this is a
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Speaker 1: movie about a crime pretty much just about a crime,
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Speaker 1: so I feel like it counts it counts as a
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Speaker 1: crime movie. The other thing is like I tried to
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Speaker 1: leave out anything that was supernatural, not saying that those
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Speaker 1: can't be crime movies, but for me, I feel like
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Speaker 1: once you're throw in something supernatural, it kind of it
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Speaker 1: disqualifies it a little bit for me, Like that's you're
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Speaker 1: getting into a whole other spece trim of movie there,
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Speaker 1: and you're leaving the crime category in my opinion anyway.
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Speaker 1: It was originally done in nineteen ninety seven. It's an
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Speaker 1: Australian film by Michael Hannike. Basically, it's about two guys
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Speaker 1: that show up to a fairly wealthy neighborhood and if
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Speaker 1: I remember right, the family that they approach, I think
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Speaker 1: it's like kind of like their vacation home maybe or
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Speaker 1: something like that, or maybe they just got back from
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Speaker 1: a vacation. This one's been a while since I've seen
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Speaker 1: it as well, but basically, these two guys just show
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Speaker 1: up and start assaulting the family. But they're like being
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Speaker 1: really polite at first, and it just kind of slowly
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Speaker 1: get more and more rude and it progresses into just
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Speaker 1: like full on assault and then they decide, hey, while
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Speaker 1: we have you guys held hostage here, Why don't we
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Speaker 1: play a funny game? And it gets pretty brutal. It's
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Speaker 1: kind of a satirical psychological thriller because it's one of
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Speaker 1: those where breaks the fourth wall constantly and you get
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Speaker 1: some moments that could only be done in a fourth
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Speaker 1: wall breaking type of movie, if you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: And this is one that I've only watched one time.
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Speaker 1: It stuck with me, and I don't know, at some
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Speaker 1: point I'll probably watch it again.
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Speaker 2: But this was a heavy one.
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Speaker 1: I remember we watched this in our parents' living room.
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Speaker 1: My older brother brought it over and was just like, hey,
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Speaker 1: check this movie out that I got and popped it
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Speaker 1: in and we were like, damn, all right, it's pretty
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Speaker 1: fucking heavy. It's a pretty fucking heavy movie. You got there, buddy,
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Speaker 1: And yeah, that one stuck with me big time. Number
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Speaker 1: eighteen is going to be the twenty twenty two film
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Speaker 1: The Batman, The Robert Pattinson one with Zoe Kravitz. You
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Speaker 1: got Paul Dano in there as the Riddler, and you
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Speaker 1: also have Colin Ferrell as the Penguin, And I don't know,
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Speaker 1: if this is my favorite Batman movie out there, I'd
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Speaker 1: probably have to do a whole Batman movie ranking list,
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Speaker 1: which maybe that'll happen next week.
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Speaker 2: Who knows. I have no idea what I'm doing anymore.
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Speaker 1: But as far as like Batman movies go, this one
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Speaker 1: felt like the most akin to a traditional crime movie.
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Speaker 1: It felt like a straight up vigilante superhero crime fighting movie.
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Speaker 1: If you know what I'm saying. I guess that's what
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Speaker 1: all they're all about. But at the same time, this
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Speaker 1: one felt like maybe the most realistic. I guess you
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Speaker 1: could say I prefer this one over the Dark Knight
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Speaker 1: Trilogy all of so let me know in the comments
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Speaker 1: if you agree. Do you think this is better than
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Speaker 1: the Dark Knight Trilogy? I do, I mean the Dark
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Speaker 1: Knight Trilogy. This is like a mini Batman ranking. I
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Speaker 1: guess right here. The Dark Knight Trilogy for me isn't
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Speaker 1: even better than Batman Returns. In my opinion, I would
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Speaker 1: put that one over all three of those movies as well.
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Speaker 2: I have to go back and.
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Speaker 1: Watch some more of the Batman movies. It might not
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Speaker 1: even be better than the Arnold Schwarzenegger one if I'm
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Speaker 1: being completely honest. But like I said, I'd have to
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Speaker 1: do a rewatch. It's been a while since I've watched
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Speaker 1: all the Batman movies. I thought this Batman movie felt
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Speaker 1: the most grounded in reality as far as the crime
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Speaker 1: aspect goes. They take inspiration from the Zodiac Killer with
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Speaker 1: the Riddler, and I think that's very apparent even if
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Speaker 1: you don't even if you didn't read about that before
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Speaker 1: watching the movie, and I just thought that was made
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Speaker 1: this one a lot more interesting than me. I thought
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Speaker 1: the penguin character was really neat, added a nice touch
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Speaker 1: to it, and yeah, overall, I just thought this was
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Speaker 1: a really cool. Prime story Number seventeen is the two
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Speaker 1: thousand and seven movie Vacancy. I always see it listed
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Speaker 1: more as like a horror movie, and I guess that's
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Speaker 1: probably true. I feel like it's more of like a
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Speaker 1: suspense too. You know, it has a lot of suspense
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Speaker 1: in this movie, but it is basically just focusing on
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Speaker 1: a crime. It's about a married couple. They're they're leaving
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Speaker 1: like a film festival party or something like that, and
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Speaker 1: you know, they stop at this motel. We quickly find
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Speaker 1: out that they're on the verge of the divorce. Their
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Speaker 1: son died and it's driven them apart. So they stop
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Speaker 1: at this motel for a place to stay. I can't
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Speaker 1: remember what happens. I think their cart breaks down or something,
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Speaker 1: and so they're like, oh shit, let's get our car
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Speaker 1: fixed and stay at this damn motel. It's like a
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Speaker 1: motel car repair shop maybe or something. I can't actually
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Speaker 1: remember too much about it. At some point they realized
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Speaker 1: that what they're watching on their TV is like footage
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Speaker 1: from another motel guests room, like they're watching it or
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Speaker 1: something like that, and then these guys break in and
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Speaker 1: murder her, and they're like what the fuck And it's
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Speaker 1: like or maybe it's like a VHS tape that they
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Speaker 1: find or something like that, and they realize that it's
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Speaker 1: like a snuff film. But then they're like, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: this snuff film is being recorded in the room that
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Speaker 1: we're staying in. And then they're just like, a fuck,
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Speaker 1: we're about to get killed in a snuff film as well.
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Speaker 1: So they start to like figure out how they're going
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Speaker 1: to get out of this situation or how they're going
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Speaker 1: to defend themselves basically, and it just Yeah, it's a
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Speaker 1: pretty intense movie. This is one that I liked a
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Speaker 1: lot more than I expected, as Luke Wilson and Kate
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Speaker 1: beckinsell in it so pretty solid cast overall too. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is a pretty interesting story just the way it
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Speaker 1: plays out. I would almost compare this one to like
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Speaker 1: the movie The Strangers. Personally, I like this movie better.
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Speaker 1: Number sixteen is the movie Nightcrawler with old Jaki Jillenhaul.
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Speaker 1: He might pop upon this list a time or two
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Speaker 1: after this, but basically this follows around to this guy
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Speaker 1: a loop. He's living in Los Angeles and he's doing
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Speaker 1: whatever he can to get money. He's stealing copper piping,
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Speaker 1: he's fucking taking catalytic converters, he's selling junk and shit
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Speaker 1: like that, stealing manhole covers. This guy doesn't give a fuck.
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Speaker 1: He's like stealing a fence at one point from like
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Speaker 1: a junk yard or something like. He's it's not a
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Speaker 1: fence that's at the junkyard for you to take or whatever.
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Speaker 1: He's stealing the actual fence around the junk yard because
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Speaker 1: he needs damn money. Lou need damn money. And eventually
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Speaker 1: he basically pawns that and gets a video camera and
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Speaker 1: a police radio scanner and he becomes an ambulance chaser.
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Speaker 1: So anytime there's an accident or a crime or whatever,
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Speaker 1: lose on the scene, filming that shit and then selling
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Speaker 1: it to the news stations. And eventually he makes enough
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Speaker 1: money doing this to where he can employ this other
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Speaker 1: guy and pay him like a shitty wage to put
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Speaker 1: himself in really dangerous situations to also get a good
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Speaker 1: footage to sell to the news station. So that just
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Speaker 1: kind of keeps going and going and escalating until you
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Speaker 1: really get a plain as day idea of lose mental state.
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Speaker 1: Like you're kind of wondering the whole time, like how
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Speaker 1: far is he gonna go with this? And then you realize, Okay,
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Speaker 1: Lo's a sociopaths. He has no feelings behind them eyes.
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Speaker 1: Let's see number fifteen is going to be gone girl.
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Speaker 1: So this is another David Fincher. This is the second
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Speaker 1: time he showed up on this list already, and I
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Speaker 1: kind of forgot that this was a David Fincher movie.
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Speaker 1: But basically it's about a It's got Ben Affleck in it,
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Speaker 1: and who else is? Oh yeah, Rosamund Pike, isn't it?
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Speaker 1: Tyler Perry's in this damn movie?
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Speaker 2: What the hell?
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Speaker 1: And Neil Patrick Harris. Holy shit, I forgot all these
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Speaker 1: guys are in this damn movie. So basically, his wife
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Speaker 1: goes missing, everyone suspects him after a while. He doesn't
17:56
Speaker 1: do a great job of deflecting any of these suspicions.
18:00
Speaker 1: It comes off as an asshole and a little bit uncaring.
18:03
Speaker 1: The way this movie plays out was fantastic. I feel
18:06
Speaker 1: like it tells the story perfectly.
18:08
Speaker 2: And this was a book.
18:10
Speaker 1: I haven't read the book it's been a while, but
18:12
Speaker 1: this is one where I feel like the book and
18:14
Speaker 1: the movie are almost equals the book in the movie
18:17
Speaker 1: that they really It rarely happens where the movies get
18:21
Speaker 1: it just right, and this is one case where I
18:24
Speaker 1: feel like they really do. A lot of it has
18:25
Speaker 1: to do with the performances. I feel like Ben affleck
18:28
Speaker 1: Ana Rosemond Pike do a great job. I don't want
18:31
Speaker 1: to give too much way with this one. Even knowing
18:33
Speaker 1: the twists and the reveals for this movie, the rewatchability is.
18:38
Speaker 2: There for this one.
18:39
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a movie I could sit
18:41
Speaker 1: down and watch pretty much anytime, except for the runtime
18:44
Speaker 1: being about one hundred and fifty minutes. You know, you
18:46
Speaker 1: got to block off a few hours of your day.
18:48
Speaker 1: But other than that, I think This one would hold
18:50
Speaker 1: up on a rewatch for sure. Number fourteen is American
18:55
Speaker 1: History X. This is my number fourteen on the crime
18:58
Speaker 1: movie list. You got Ed Norton and Ed Furlong throw
19:02
Speaker 1: another Ed in this movie. You could have an Ed,
19:05
Speaker 1: Ed and Eddie reboot, except one of them is a
19:08
Speaker 1: One of the Eds would have a big swastik on
19:10
Speaker 1: his chest, and I imagine it would be the first Ed,
19:14
Speaker 1: the one that's always trying to get all the money
19:16
Speaker 1: and coming up with the schemes. Could you imagine if
19:18
Speaker 1: they're just doing Edit and Eddie episode where he pulls
19:21
Speaker 1: his shirt off at the pool and he just has
19:23
Speaker 1: a big ass swastik on his chest. Imagine seeing that
19:25
Speaker 1: on Cartoon Network after school and you're just like, damn,
19:29
Speaker 1: he's like bite the curb Ralph or whatever. That one
19:32
Speaker 1: you know, Middle Eastern guy's name was and Eda and Eddie.
19:35
Speaker 1: So this is probably Ed Furlong's second most iconic role,
19:40
Speaker 1: next to Terminator or two. I feel like I always
19:42
Speaker 1: kind of forget, like, oh yeah, this is another solid
19:46
Speaker 1: Ed Furlong performance, and obviously like a huge Ed Norton movie.
19:50
Speaker 1: Maybe his biggest role, I don't maybe his most recognizable
19:53
Speaker 1: role maybe I don't know, or probably fight Club. I
19:56
Speaker 1: guess you could probably put Fight Club over this one.
19:58
Speaker 1: But this is definitely one of those movies that sticks
20:00
Speaker 1: with you as well. I feel like before I even
20:03
Speaker 1: saw the movie, I would always hear people talk about
20:05
Speaker 1: the curb stomp scene, and I was like, sounds pretty
20:08
Speaker 1: fucking sounds pretty fucking intense kicking up your movie with
20:11
Speaker 1: an old curb stomp and then Homie just goes to prison.
20:15
Speaker 1: But yeah, I really, as far as the crime movie goes, though,
20:17
Speaker 1: I think this one takes a really unique perspective on
20:20
Speaker 1: the whole thing, where the older brother's bad decisions and
20:24
Speaker 1: his uh, you know, his racist ideology.
20:26
Speaker 2: Anyway, this all has like a huge.
20:28
Speaker 1: Impact on his younger brother, Ed Furlong. And even though
20:31
Speaker 1: he even though when he serves his time in prison
20:34
Speaker 1: and comes out he has a different perspective on life
20:37
Speaker 1: and he completely denies his old ways, his younger brother
20:42
Speaker 1: is caught up in that and he's trying to like
20:44
Speaker 1: carry on the torch for his brother, where I'm gonna
20:47
Speaker 1: be the next best racist guy in town, the next
20:50
Speaker 1: best skinhead and so, and his brother's kind of like,
20:53
Speaker 1: hey man, that shit's kind of fucking dumb. He probably
20:55
Speaker 1: shouldn't be doing that shit anymore, but he doesn't. He
20:58
Speaker 1: keeps doing it and uh, and then eventually it leads
21:01
Speaker 1: to a whole lot of negativity, a whole lot of
21:03
Speaker 1: bad shit happening, and it basically just goes to show
21:07
Speaker 1: that hate is not the answer. Ed Furlong should have
21:10
Speaker 1: learned from his older brother's mistakes and not continued to
21:14
Speaker 1: be a pretty heavy movie. Number thirteen is going to
21:17
Speaker 1: have old Stevie King sneak in his way onto our
21:20
Speaker 1: list with the Shawshank Redemption. This is one of those
21:24
Speaker 1: Stephen King stories that I feel like is often forgot
21:27
Speaker 1: about or forgot about that it's one of his stories.
21:30
Speaker 1: This was based on the nineteen eighty two Stephen King
21:32
Speaker 1: novella Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption. So it's almost like
21:37
Speaker 1: this one reminds me of stand By Me or something
21:40
Speaker 1: like that, where I feel like it just doesn't feel
21:42
Speaker 1: like your typical Stephen King story. But the more you
21:45
Speaker 1: get into Stephen King, the more you start reading some
21:48
Speaker 1: of his other works, like his lesser known stuff, this
21:51
Speaker 1: totally feels like something he would write. It totally feels
21:54
Speaker 1: in line with it. Just the mood and the tone
21:56
Speaker 1: and everything. I feel like his writing is a lot
21:59
Speaker 1: more heart felt then people realized before actually diving into
22:04
Speaker 1: all of his work. Shawshank Redemption pretty fantastic. Andy Dufranne
22:08
Speaker 1: Goes to Jail or Goes to Prison. This one has
22:11
Speaker 1: been a while since I've seen it, but it's just
22:13
Speaker 1: it's always been one of my top movies, top crime movies,
22:17
Speaker 1: especially where it's just this one gives you the point
22:20
Speaker 1: of view of a man in prison and eventually he
22:23
Speaker 1: starts cooking the books that you kind of see a
22:25
Speaker 1: lot of the horrors of prison in this one. Similar
22:28
Speaker 1: to the last movie we talked about, American History X,
22:32
Speaker 1: they kind of focus in on the prison rape, which
22:35
Speaker 1: I think is something that they're really hitting home a
22:38
Speaker 1: lot of times in any of these prison movies, Like,
22:40
Speaker 1: if you go to prison, you will be raped and
22:43
Speaker 1: it's just part of the prison culture and it's gonna happen.
22:47
Speaker 2: So don't go to prison. Don't get raped in prison.
22:51
Speaker 1: There's one way to not get raped in prison, and
22:53
Speaker 1: that is to not be in prison. Okay, yeah I didn't.
22:56
Speaker 1: I forgot all about this. So Andy Dufraye he's given
23:00
Speaker 1: two consecutive life sentences for murdering his wife and her lover,
23:05
Speaker 1: and that's why he's sent to Shawshank. I always thought
23:07
Speaker 1: he was wrongfully convicted, and maybe he is.
23:10
Speaker 2: I don't know.
23:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have to watch this one again or
23:13
Speaker 1: read the book or something. Maybe I'll put this one on.
23:15
Speaker 1: I'll bump it up on my watch list or rewatch
23:18
Speaker 1: list or something like that. But you got Morgan Freeman,
23:20
Speaker 1: you got Tim Robbins, fantastic movie. Should cut that out.
23:24
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been saying that all the time.
23:26
Speaker 1: I keep saying that these are fantastic movies.
23:28
Speaker 2: They are.
23:28
Speaker 1: This is a top twenty three list of movies that
23:31
Speaker 1: I like. Like I said at the beginning, I'm not
23:33
Speaker 1: gonna be throwing any fucking stinkers on here. So if
23:36
Speaker 1: you want to watch a good movie, throw on any
23:38
Speaker 1: of these goddamn twenty three of these goddamn movies and
23:41
Speaker 1: you're gonna like it. You're gonna have a good time
23:43
Speaker 1: with Shawshank, Redemption and all the shower rape scenes that
23:47
Speaker 1: are in here.
23:48
Speaker 2: Trust me.
23:49
Speaker 1: Number twelve, we got a damn Clint Eastwood movie in here.
23:52
Speaker 1: And this is Mystic River the two thousand and three
23:55
Speaker 1: American neo noir mystery crime drama. This one also has
23:58
Speaker 1: Tim Robbins in it, but you got Sean Penn, Kevin Bacon,
24:02
Speaker 1: Lawrence Fishburne, Marcia gay Harden, and Laura Lenny, so incredibly
24:07
Speaker 1: strong cast with this one. I always think that this
24:09
Speaker 1: movie has Giovanni Rabisi in it. I always think he's
24:13
Speaker 1: the guy that they think is the child killer and
24:17
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but it's I think it's actually Tim
24:20
Speaker 1: Robbins that plays that character. So that's a little less
24:23
Speaker 1: on the nose. I feel like Tim Robbins, I think,
24:25
Speaker 1: is a way better choice. I like Giovanni Rabisi a lot,
24:28
Speaker 1: and I think he would do well as that character,
24:30
Speaker 1: but I feel like it would almost be a little
24:31
Speaker 1: too much. He's a little too frantic. But yeah, this
24:34
Speaker 1: movie stuck with me really just overall incredible performances, amazing story,
24:40
Speaker 1: and it was This is something I didn't realize until
24:43
Speaker 1: last year. I read the book last year. The novel
24:46
Speaker 1: came out in two thousand and one and it was
24:49
Speaker 1: by Dennis Lee Hayne, so I'd seen the movie a
24:52
Speaker 1: long time ago and I read the book last year.
24:54
Speaker 1: The book is this is another one. The way I
24:57
Speaker 1: was talking about Gone Girl, how those are like, I
25:00
Speaker 1: feel like same thing. The book was amazing, really heartbreaking
25:03
Speaker 1: story and just really well written. The story plays out
25:07
Speaker 1: really nicely in a very satisfying way. The way everything's
25:11
Speaker 1: revealed and the way it kind of like leads you
25:13
Speaker 1: on and stuff like that, very well done. And this
25:15
Speaker 1: is actually the first movie where Clint Eastwood was credited
25:18
Speaker 1: as the composer of the score, so that was pretty interesting.
25:22
Speaker 1: And Sean Penn won Best Actor, with Tim Robbins winning
25:25
Speaker 1: Best Supporting Actor for this movie. So just a fucking
25:29
Speaker 1: incredible flick over. And I think this is the first
25:32
Speaker 1: movie I talked about on this list where as far
25:35
Speaker 1: as the crime genre goes, you're you're starting to dip
25:38
Speaker 1: your toes into like the mob or like gangster type
25:42
Speaker 1: of crime shit going on here, because I think it's
25:44
Speaker 1: the Sean Penn character kind of like runs a local
25:48
Speaker 1: criminal organization if I remember right where he kind of
25:51
Speaker 1: like oversees things in town. You know, he's like almost
25:54
Speaker 1: like a mob boss type of character. But that was
25:57
Speaker 1: one of the things where, like with this list, I
25:59
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of time when you're saying crime movies.
26:01
Speaker 1: If you're not thinking mystery or suspense, you're kind of
26:04
Speaker 1: going into like gangster movies right away, like Godfather and
26:07
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And that brings us to our number
26:10
Speaker 1: eleven movie, Goodfellas, because that's probably my favorite one of
26:14
Speaker 1: those types of movies, like Italian mafia type of movies.
26:17
Speaker 1: Is gonna be good Fellas. How can you go wrong
26:20
Speaker 1: with this movie? You got Ray Liota, Robbie d Joe Pashi,
26:24
Speaker 1: and Martin Scorsese behind on the director's chair.
26:27
Speaker 2: Holy shit, guys, And this one is just.
26:30
Speaker 1: Very iconic, has a lot of lines in it and
26:32
Speaker 1: a lot of scenes in it that you've probably seen,
26:34
Speaker 1: even if you haven't seen the movie. I rewatched it
26:36
Speaker 1: a few years ago, and goddamn it holds up as
26:40
Speaker 1: one of my favorite crime movies of all time, probably
26:42
Speaker 1: my favorite, like mafia style movie. This movie starts out
26:46
Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties. Basically, our main character sees a
26:49
Speaker 1: crime at an early age. I think he's a teenager
26:52
Speaker 1: or something like that, and he kind of becomes enamored
26:54
Speaker 1: with criminal life, and eventually he starts working for these
26:57
Speaker 1: local mob this local mob group or whatever, just like
27:01
Speaker 1: running small Aeron's form and stuff like that, and as
27:04
Speaker 1: time goes on, he ends up becoming like full force
27:08
Speaker 1: into this group and stuff like that, and he becomes
27:10
Speaker 1: like a big name around town and stuff, drug guy,
27:14
Speaker 1: killing people, shit like that, casinos, big cigars, swimming with
27:18
Speaker 1: the fishes, that sort of stuff. Number ten is going
27:24
Speaker 1: to take Robbie d in another role, but this time
27:28
Speaker 1: just make him a little bit more twisted and a
27:30
Speaker 1: little bit more unhinged, if you know what I'm saying.
27:33
Speaker 1: It's like if you took Robert de Niro from the
27:35
Speaker 1: movie Goodfellas, but instead of him being in the mob,
27:39
Speaker 1: you put him in prison for his whole life and
27:42
Speaker 1: made him from Louisiana and then also made him like
27:46
Speaker 1: listen to Trapped under Ice for his entire life, or
27:49
Speaker 1: make him listen to the band Crowbar for his entire life,
27:52
Speaker 1: and then let him out of prison and have him
27:54
Speaker 1: at tacnic Nulty. So this is Kate Fear. This is
27:57
Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety one remake. I haven't seen the original.
28:00
Speaker 1: The one that came out in the sixties, I believe
28:02
Speaker 1: was nineteen sixty two. This is another Scorsese movie. So
28:06
Speaker 1: this one came out just a couple of years after Goodfellas,
28:09
Speaker 1: so Scorsese was on a run here in the early nineties. Basically,
28:13
Speaker 1: this is about a public defender who puts away Max
28:16
Speaker 1: Katie played by Robert de Niro and sends him to
28:20
Speaker 1: prison intentionally, like, he finds out some details that could
28:24
Speaker 1: get him off of get him out of prison for
28:27
Speaker 1: a rape and assault and stuff like that, but he
28:30
Speaker 1: hides the evidence and lets his client go to prison
28:33
Speaker 1: because he just knows, like, this guy's a violent piece
28:35
Speaker 1: of shit, send him to fucking prison.
28:37
Speaker 2: Who gives a shit?
28:38
Speaker 1: And Max Katy's a literate at the time of the trial,
28:41
Speaker 1: so there's no way he's going to know about any
28:43
Speaker 1: of these details. While Max Katy's in prison, he smartens up.
28:48
Speaker 1: He starts going to like goddamn prison college or something
28:51
Speaker 1: like that, and he learns about the law and basically
28:53
Speaker 1: he figures out all this shit about his case and
28:56
Speaker 1: he gets himself out or something, and he goes after
28:59
Speaker 1: his defence attorney. He goes after Nick Nolty, Sam and
29:02
Speaker 1: his whole family and basically just starts stalking them and
29:05
Speaker 1: harassing them. And this one, the escalation of this one
29:09
Speaker 1: is fantastic. There's like there's scenes where or Sam is
29:14
Speaker 1: paying guys to beat up Max Katie, and Max Katy
29:17
Speaker 1: is like showing up at his daughter's high school fucking
29:20
Speaker 1: performances and stuff like that. He's shown up at the
29:23
Speaker 1: movie theater being loud as fuck next to Sam and
29:26
Speaker 1: his family. It's the whole thing. Reaches ahead on a
29:31
Speaker 1: boat fight scene that is incredible, and the way that
29:34
Speaker 1: Max Katy gets himself there is also unreal where he
29:38
Speaker 1: just this one borderlines on supernatural for me at sometimes
29:42
Speaker 1: because he like holds himself on this the bottom of
29:46
Speaker 1: the car like the suspension or something. I don't know
29:49
Speaker 1: how the fuck he stays under there, Like imagine if
29:51
Speaker 1: they hit a railroad track or something going too fast,
29:54
Speaker 1: it would have like broken his back or something. But anyway,
29:57
Speaker 1: you know, he makes it there, he gets to the
30:00
Speaker 1: He's a surprise visitor if you will. Number nine is
30:04
Speaker 1: Manhunter by Michael Mann, directed by Michael Mann. This is
30:08
Speaker 1: based on the Thomas Harris book Red Dragon, which is
30:11
Speaker 1: the first novel. This is the book before Silence of
30:16
Speaker 1: the Lambs. Basically is how this was is how this
30:18
Speaker 1: came out, And I honestly didn't know that there was
30:22
Speaker 1: another movie before Silence of the Lambs. I saw Silence
30:25
Speaker 1: of the Lambs when I was like a little kid,
30:28
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, that was a great movie.
30:30
Speaker 1: Never heard about Manhunter until probably about five years ago,
30:33
Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh shit, this has Hannibal
30:36
Speaker 1: Lecter in it too, And so.
30:37
Speaker 2: I read the book.
30:38
Speaker 1: I watched the movie at the time when I first
30:40
Speaker 1: saw it and read. I liked the book read Dragon
30:45
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit better than the book Silence of
30:47
Speaker 1: the Lambs, and the movie is pretty similar to the book.
30:50
Speaker 2: I feel like it does a really good job.
30:52
Speaker 1: It comes almost it comes really close to living up
30:55
Speaker 1: to the hype of the book. For me. There was
30:57
Speaker 1: some changes towards the end. I feel like just made
31:01
Speaker 1: it a little bit more digestible, if you will. I
31:04
Speaker 1: feel like the book has a pretty harsh ending, whereas
31:07
Speaker 1: the movie they kind of make things work out, you know,
31:10
Speaker 1: for the best, I guess you could say, but yeah,
31:12
Speaker 1: fantastic movie. Basically, you have this FBI former FBI criminal
31:16
Speaker 1: profiler Will Graham. He's going after a serial killer that's
31:21
Speaker 1: been dubbed the Tooth Fairy by the police because of
31:24
Speaker 1: the BikeE marks that he leaves on his victims, and
31:26
Speaker 1: so he goes to Hannibal Lecter for help, which is
31:30
Speaker 1: which he captured Hannibal Lecter. Hannibal Lecter is like agrees
31:34
Speaker 1: to it because he's curious to know how Will Graham
31:37
Speaker 1: was able to catch him. So they kind of have
31:39
Speaker 1: these back and forth. Really fantastic, I mean, like this
31:42
Speaker 1: was this was my first time hearing about this movie
31:45
Speaker 1: and my first time seeing it. I really like the
31:47
Speaker 1: guy that plays Hannibal Lecter in this. Brian Cox plays
31:51
Speaker 1: Hannibal Lecter in this and not Red Dragon and Manhunter,
31:56
Speaker 1: and yeah, I thought he did a fantastic job. I
31:58
Speaker 1: would say the performance as Handle is just as good
32:01
Speaker 1: as the one in Silence of the Lambs, Like it's
32:03
Speaker 1: it's very good. I think the book version of the
32:05
Speaker 1: story is. I prefer it to Silence of the Lambs actually,
32:08
Speaker 1: and there's a lot to like about this movie. Will
32:10
Speaker 1: Graham is fantastic the character. He goes through all these
32:14
Speaker 1: different tactics trying to figure out who the Tooth Fairy
32:16
Speaker 1: is and how to kill them.
32:17
Speaker 2: How to catch them.
32:18
Speaker 1: They get these home videos what happens there, and these
32:21
Speaker 1: the Tooth Fairy murders almost seem completely random. And Graham
32:25
Speaker 1: starts to put together the pieces that he realizes that
32:28
Speaker 1: this guy must have seen, must have known about their
32:32
Speaker 1: property in some way or another, because he's always so
32:35
Speaker 1: prepared for how he's going to get into their houses
32:38
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I won't say too much
32:40
Speaker 1: more than that, really really great movie. It has Tom
32:44
Speaker 1: Noonan in it, and you'll recognize him from the movie
32:47
Speaker 1: Last Action Hero as the bad guy with the rain
32:51
Speaker 1: slicker and the axe and all that shit. Number eight
32:53
Speaker 1: a clockwork orange. So this is a dystopian crime film.
32:56
Speaker 1: This list is going to have a wide variety as
32:59
Speaker 1: far as we kind of crime movies made it on here.
33:02
Speaker 1: This is a Stanley Kubrick movie, got Malcolm mcdollen there
33:06
Speaker 1: as the main character, and this basically just follows around
33:10
Speaker 1: Alex and just kind of the things he likes to
33:12
Speaker 1: get up to. He hangs out with his drugies and
33:15
Speaker 1: they go around just committing crimes that will whatever they
33:19
Speaker 1: feel like doing, beating people up, getting in gang fights,
33:22
Speaker 1: doing drinking milk and stuff like that, maybe even doing
33:25
Speaker 1: some rapes. Eventually it does catch up with him. Alex
33:28
Speaker 1: gets arrested and he's putting an experimental aversion therapy for
33:33
Speaker 1: rehabilitating criminals, and supposedly this only takes two weeks, so
33:36
Speaker 1: they just pin his eyes open. They played Beethoven laud
33:40
Speaker 1: as Hell, and they show him all these like horrible
33:42
Speaker 1: images and videos of like war and stuff like that,
33:46
Speaker 1: and once it's all said and done, he can't commit
33:49
Speaker 1: a crime without becoming nauseous. So I guess it works.
33:52
Speaker 1: You know, maybe they should do this. Maybe they should
33:55
Speaker 1: torture criminals now, just maybe not all the time, maybe
33:58
Speaker 1: just sometimes some of them should. Whenever he's rehabilitated, though,
34:03
Speaker 1: he's let out and he runs into some familiar faces
34:06
Speaker 1: and things don't go quite as well as they did
34:09
Speaker 1: before for Alex. Now that he can't be violent anymore,
34:12
Speaker 1: he can't really defend himself against any of this stuff.
34:15
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like one of those reap what
34:18
Speaker 1: you sew type of situations for his ass Number seven
34:22
Speaker 1: is going to be the movie Fargo. This is a
34:25
Speaker 1: Joel and Ethan Cohen movie. Basically, it's a black comedy
34:29
Speaker 1: crime film. This car salesman. He's hurting for money, so
34:34
Speaker 1: he's setting up to have his wife kidnapped. And this
34:37
Speaker 1: is one of those situations where something that he thought
34:40
Speaker 1: was going to be basically harmless, just snowballs out of control.
34:44
Speaker 1: You've got Frances McDormand, William H. Macy, Steve Buscemi, Harvey Presnel,
34:50
Speaker 1: and Peter Stormaer in this one. Jerry Jerry pays some
34:54
Speaker 1: guys to kidnap his wife and basically it all goes wrong.
34:58
Speaker 1: They just keep up in the rams. Once he wants
35:01
Speaker 1: to call it off, they don't want to call it off.
35:03
Speaker 1: And he's being extorted for money, he's trying to bribe people.
35:07
Speaker 2: It all goes wrong.
35:08
Speaker 1: Number six is going to be Dirty Harry, a Don
35:11
Speaker 1: siegeal movie starring Clint Eastwood. This is the second movie
35:14
Speaker 1: on the list that is based off of the Zodiac Murderer,
35:18
Speaker 1: and even closer to that case. The character Dirty Harry
35:22
Speaker 1: is based off the detective Dave Toski who was the
35:27
Speaker 1: lead investigator going after the Zodiac in the late sixties,
35:32
Speaker 1: like sixty nine throughout the seventies, and he was and
35:36
Speaker 1: he's the guy that Mark Ruffalo plays in the movie Zodiac.
35:40
Speaker 1: So not the only movie with a Dave Toski character
35:43
Speaker 1: in it, as I guess the movie Bullet that character.
35:46
Speaker 1: The Steve McQueen character was also Dave Towski representation. So
35:50
Speaker 1: I watched this one for the first time probably about
35:52
Speaker 1: three years ago, and I didn't realize it was even
35:55
Speaker 1: related to the Zodiac case. So the back and forth
35:58
Speaker 1: between the detective and the case and everything really stood
36:01
Speaker 1: out to me. It's a really great cat and mouse
36:04
Speaker 1: please story. The killer that they're going after, the Scorpio,
36:08
Speaker 1: is writing them letters basically just kind of taunting them
36:11
Speaker 1: and letting them know who his next victim is going
36:14
Speaker 1: to be, similar to the Zodiac case. Number five on
36:18
Speaker 1: my list is Denny's Vell and U's Prisoners. The twenty
36:22
Speaker 1: thirteen film, we got Hugh Jackman, Jake Jillen, Hall, Viola Davis,
36:26
Speaker 1: Mario Bello, Terrence Howard with that trick, Melissa Leo, and
36:31
Speaker 1: Paul Dano. Again we had Paul Dano, Balls Dano and
36:35
Speaker 1: the Batman. Now we got him in the movie Prisoners,
36:38
Speaker 1: and that plays kind of a similar character in both movies,
36:40
Speaker 1: although in this one and this one he gets beaten
36:43
Speaker 1: and tortured a lot more. I will say that Hugh
36:46
Speaker 1: Jackman is terrifying in this movie. He thinks that Paul
36:49
Speaker 1: Dano is responsible for the abduction of his little girl,
36:53
Speaker 1: and he kidnaps him and puts him in an abandoned
36:57
Speaker 1: house and basically just change like handcuffs them up to
37:00
Speaker 1: us an old sink or something or a radiator and
37:03
Speaker 1: just beats the fuck out of him. It's the scene
37:06
Speaker 1: that always really sticks with you as the one where
37:08
Speaker 1: he's got the hammer and he's threatening him with the
37:10
Speaker 1: hammer and then he starts smashing the sink. It's fucking it.
37:13
Speaker 1: It's terrifying. It's so intense. But yeah, really really great movie.
37:18
Speaker 1: Jake jollen Hall plays a detective where he's going around
37:20
Speaker 1: trying to figure this thing out, and he's he kind
37:23
Speaker 1: of suspects that Hugh Jackman's character has something to do
37:26
Speaker 1: with the Paul Dano disappearance. So there's a lot of
37:30
Speaker 1: interweaving stories going on here, and they both think that
37:33
Speaker 1: they're kind of on the right trail. It takes some
37:35
Speaker 1: interesting turns. There's another big actor in this movie, the
37:39
Speaker 1: guy that was in Late Night with the Devil. I
37:41
Speaker 1: can't think of his name right now, but he's one
37:43
Speaker 1: of the suspects. Jake Jollenhall has a great foot chase
37:46
Speaker 1: scene with him. This movie has a really great almost
37:49
Speaker 1: like a cliffhanger ending that just kind of leaves it
37:52
Speaker 1: up for interpretation, like what do you think happens next?
37:55
Speaker 1: Kind of kind of situations and yeah, fun one for sure,
38:01
Speaker 1: definitely one that'll pull you right through the movie. I
38:04
Speaker 1: almost gave this movie five stars. I think he ended
38:06
Speaker 1: up doing four and a half. I definitely think this
38:09
Speaker 1: is like a five star movie. There's one thing towards
38:12
Speaker 1: the end of the movie that dropped it down half
38:15
Speaker 1: a star for me, and it's really just like the
38:17
Speaker 1: something a choice that the Hugh Jackman character makes that
38:20
Speaker 1: I just didn't feel like it fit his character, the
38:24
Speaker 1: energy that he was bringing throughout the rest of the movie,
38:26
Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying. It's whenever he goes
38:29
Speaker 1: to confront Paul Dano's mom, he becomes like really nice,
38:32
Speaker 1: and I was kind of like, the way this guy's
38:34
Speaker 1: been just torturing this guy in his house the whole
38:36
Speaker 1: time and burning him with scalding hot water and stuff
38:39
Speaker 1: like that, I can't imagine him ever being nice or
38:42
Speaker 1: calm at this point. I feel like he would just
38:44
Speaker 1: kick her fucking trailer door in and just start whooping
38:46
Speaker 1: her ass too, and just being like listen, bitch, I'm
38:49
Speaker 1: trying to find my damn daughter. I think your creepy
38:50
Speaker 1: ass Sun has her or something like that. He locked
38:53
Speaker 1: into his room or something. So guess what knuckle sandwiches
38:56
Speaker 1: for fucking dinner tonight, bitch. And he just starts beating
38:58
Speaker 1: the hell out of her. But he's kind of like,
39:00
Speaker 1: he's like, way too nice and let's his guard down
39:02
Speaker 1: and shit, this next one's gonna be a little bit
39:04
Speaker 1: of a change of pace as well. So number four
39:07
Speaker 1: for me is going to be the South Korean movie
39:09
Speaker 1: I saw The Devil. This movie completely blew my balls off.
39:13
Speaker 1: The first time I saw it. I didn't know what
39:15
Speaker 1: to expect, but on reading the description, I was like, oh, yeah,
39:18
Speaker 1: this sounds like a cool action movie. This one is
39:20
Speaker 1: more almost like a gore torture movie really when it's
39:24
Speaker 1: not like crazy gory, but it's a lot more gory
39:26
Speaker 1: than I expected. Like getting into it, it's kind of
39:29
Speaker 1: like this, you know, secret agent goes after this and
39:32
Speaker 1: notorious serial killer to get revenge and stuff. And I
39:35
Speaker 1: was kind of like, all right, it sounds cool, sounds like,
39:38
Speaker 1: you know, sounds pretty fun, sounds like the movie Face
39:40
Speaker 1: Off or something. But when you get into it. It
39:43
Speaker 1: is so brutal, and it's very like it's very well
39:46
Speaker 1: done as well. Like I mean, there's a lot of
39:49
Speaker 1: really great South Korean movies, but this one, I feel
39:52
Speaker 1: like it's just shot really well, a lot of like
39:54
Speaker 1: artistic styling with it and stuff like that. Does that
39:59
Speaker 1: make any sense to anybody? I just feel like the
40:01
Speaker 1: way the shots are done look really nice. I can
40:05
Speaker 1: say that I'm totally running out of steam right now.
40:07
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have made the list so fucking long, or
40:09
Speaker 1: I should have done this and like split this into
40:11
Speaker 1: two episodes or something. God damn it, I'm getting exhausted. Basically,
40:15
Speaker 1: this one's about this guy. He's a fucking secret agent
40:18
Speaker 1: and his fiance is murdered by this serial killer. In
40:23
Speaker 1: the very beginning of the movie, she gets murdered, and
40:25
Speaker 1: so he goes out with the whole team's you know,
40:29
Speaker 1: the police and everything are looking for her body. She
40:32
Speaker 1: also just happens to be like the police chief's daughter
40:34
Speaker 1: or something like that. So they're trying to keep the
40:37
Speaker 1: fiance away from this. They're like, hey, man, don't worry
40:40
Speaker 1: about it. We got this cover. We'll let you know
40:42
Speaker 1: what happens, because you know, she's missing or whatever. They
40:45
Speaker 1: find her cut off head in this like creek or something.
40:50
Speaker 1: He finds out and he flips the fuck out, and
40:52
Speaker 1: they're like he's like, all right, I'm going to figure
40:54
Speaker 1: out who who did this. I'm gonna need some time
40:57
Speaker 1: off work, you know. And they're like, yeah, take as
40:58
Speaker 1: much time as you need, know you do, you do
41:01
Speaker 1: what you gotta do to get better, and he's just like,
41:04
Speaker 1: bet I will. And so he comes up with his
41:07
Speaker 1: list of suspects. He starts hunting everybody down and he
41:09
Speaker 1: finally finds the guy that did it, and you're like, Okay,
41:12
Speaker 1: he's gonna fucking kill him or they're gonna have a
41:14
Speaker 1: battle or something. And this is like pretty early on
41:16
Speaker 1: in the movie where you're like, oh, he got him.
41:18
Speaker 1: And he finds him, and this guy's just like whooping
41:21
Speaker 1: his ass, like fucking Jackie chanstyle. He's like flying his
41:24
Speaker 1: ass like through walls and shit and beating the fuck
41:27
Speaker 1: out of him and like breaking his legs and stuff.
41:29
Speaker 1: And you're just like just like, all right, this guy's
41:32
Speaker 1: he's whooping some ass and and you're thinking, like he's
41:34
Speaker 1: gonna kill him, you know, but he doesn't. He just
41:37
Speaker 1: like takes him and he puts a tracking device in
41:39
Speaker 1: his ass or something, or he like makes him eat
41:41
Speaker 1: it or whatever, you know, and then he fucking knocks
41:43
Speaker 1: him out, and then he just drops him off in
41:45
Speaker 1: like a parking garage somewhere, and he just kind of
41:48
Speaker 1: like every once in a while, he'll he'll revisit him
41:52
Speaker 1: and he'll just start whooping his ass again, and he'll
41:54
Speaker 1: fucking like, you know, do some more like bad shit
41:56
Speaker 1: to him, like like cut his Achilles tendons and stuff
42:00
Speaker 1: like that. Some really like hostile type of torture scenes
42:03
Speaker 1: going on in this movie, and then he'll just let
42:05
Speaker 1: him go again, and it gets a little absurd in
42:08
Speaker 1: parts because it's just it gets extremely unrealistic where it's
42:12
Speaker 1: like he's cut his Achilles tendons and just like lets
42:16
Speaker 1: him go, and this guy's just like, you know, he's
42:18
Speaker 1: beat up, but he's still also still like walking around,
42:21
Speaker 1: and it's like, dude, if you've had like your fucking
42:24
Speaker 1: ribs broken, he smashes one of his arms with the
42:27
Speaker 1: rock at one point, and this guy just keeps letting
42:30
Speaker 1: you go. You're not gonna be even physically able to
42:34
Speaker 1: just keep like walking around and making it to the
42:36
Speaker 1: next scene. You're probably just gonna lay there and die
42:39
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know, like at some point. And
42:42
Speaker 1: this movie does get almost to like Tokyo Drift levels
42:45
Speaker 1: of absurdity towards the end, especially, but it's a really
42:49
Speaker 1: great movie, really good cat and Mouse movie, and yeah,
42:52
Speaker 1: just really well done. The reveals are great, very I
42:55
Speaker 1: don't know if you'd say a very satisfying ending, but
42:58
Speaker 1: it's a brutal one, that's for sure. Number three on
43:01
Speaker 1: my list is No Country for Old Men, So we
43:03
Speaker 1: got another Cohen Brothers high up on the list, breaking
43:06
Speaker 1: the top ten. This one stars Tommy Lee Jones, javeyar Bardem,
43:10
Speaker 1: Josh Brolin, Kelly McDonald, and Woody Harrelson. So incredible cast,
43:15
Speaker 1: great Cormick McCarthy's story, Neil Western crime thriller. The Antoine
43:21
Speaker 1: character one of the most memorable villains in a movie,
43:25
Speaker 1: just very cold blooded killer, going straight for this bounty
43:30
Speaker 1: that he's after. You have the sheriff ed who kind
43:33
Speaker 1: of runs into this drug deal gone bad or whatever.
43:36
Speaker 1: All these people are killed and he's trying to make
43:37
Speaker 1: sense of it. You have a Moss who ends up
43:40
Speaker 1: finding the money at the bad drug deal and he's
43:44
Speaker 1: taking the money he's trying to get, you know, run
43:46
Speaker 1: away and stuff like that. I think it's his wife
43:49
Speaker 1: leaves her at home and he's just like, I'm gonna
43:51
Speaker 1: go take this fucking money to Mexico and we're gonna
43:53
Speaker 1: be fucking rich. But he's got Anton Schagar after his ass,
43:57
Speaker 1: and that's not good because this motherfucker doesn't stop for anything.
44:00
Speaker 1: He's just like he's like the terminator, but a real guy.
44:03
Speaker 1: And he also does like a heads or tails trick
44:06
Speaker 1: with people to see if he's going to kill him
44:08
Speaker 1: or not. And this, I think is just another staple
44:11
Speaker 1: in the crime genre where you have this the point
44:13
Speaker 1: of view from the sheriff, where he's kind of following
44:16
Speaker 1: these things, and meanwhile you're seeing these outside sources. The
44:20
Speaker 1: professional killer and kind of like the idiot who finds
44:24
Speaker 1: the money and it thinks that he's going to be
44:27
Speaker 1: able to handle this situation. And the whole time you're
44:29
Speaker 1: getting you're getting commentary from the sheriff and just kind
44:33
Speaker 1: of his life and his career and stuff like that,
44:35
Speaker 1: and what he thinks is going on and how he
44:37
Speaker 1: thinks the world is changing and everything like that. Number
44:40
Speaker 1: two Silence of the Lambs. So, like I said earlier,
44:44
Speaker 1: Manhunter is the first in the Silence of the Lambs series.
44:48
Speaker 1: And although I prefer the book Red Dragon over the
44:52
Speaker 1: Silence of the Lamb's book, I do think they pulled
44:54
Speaker 1: off the movie for Silence of the Lambs a little
44:57
Speaker 1: better than the adaptation of Red Dragon. You've got Anthony
45:02
Speaker 1: Hopkins great performance as Hannibal Lecter, unforgettable, Jody Foster his
45:07
Speaker 1: agent Sterling again, just all around really great performances. The
45:11
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill character, which is kind of like a almost
45:14
Speaker 1: like a mix of Ted Bundy and Ed Geen where
45:17
Speaker 1: he's using his fake broken arm to lure that lady
45:22
Speaker 1: to help him with the getting his couch into the
45:25
Speaker 1: van or out of the van or whatever, and then
45:26
Speaker 1: he just like clubs her and kidnaps her. But then
45:29
Speaker 1: he also likes to wear women's skin as a suit,
45:33
Speaker 1: so you see that. Of course, you got the famous
45:36
Speaker 1: scene where he tucks his wienis in and he's you know,
45:39
Speaker 1: dancing in the mirror and stuff like that.
45:41
Speaker 2: Unforgettable movie.
45:42
Speaker 1: This is one of the best crime thrillers of all
45:45
Speaker 1: time in my opinion, way way up there. And it
45:49
Speaker 1: does that thing I don't know if this is the
45:51
Speaker 1: first time this has been done in a movie. Probably
45:53
Speaker 1: probably not, if I had to guess, but it does
45:56
Speaker 1: the really great misdirection towards the end where you kind
45:59
Speaker 1: of you're led to believe that Sterling is way off track.
46:03
Speaker 1: She's she's kind of she's kind of headed in the
46:05
Speaker 1: wrong direction, and the FBI and their opinion they're locked on,
46:09
Speaker 1: they're going right towards Buffalo Bill, and you're kind of
46:11
Speaker 1: cutting to these two shots of like, you know who
46:15
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill character is, and you see the FBI,
46:18
Speaker 1: you know, setting up outside this house getting ready to
46:21
Speaker 1: bust in, and it keeps cutting to him inside the house,
46:24
Speaker 1: and meanwhile, Sterling's going to talk to some random fucking
46:27
Speaker 1: person that she just thinks might have some information, and
46:30
Speaker 1: so you're thinking, oh, damn, the FBI's at Buffalo Bill's house.
46:33
Speaker 1: And then it's revealed that Sterling's actually at Buffalo Bill's
46:37
Speaker 1: house and she's pretty much completely has her guard down.
46:41
Speaker 1: So once he realizes who she is and why she's there,
46:44
Speaker 1: he's like, I gotta fucking kill this lady, and so
46:48
Speaker 1: he uses his advantage to get the upper hand on
46:51
Speaker 1: her and there's a great night vision goggle scene in
46:54
Speaker 1: that whole situation. On top of that, the iconic Hannibal
46:57
Speaker 1: Lecter performances the great scenes with him and Agent Sterling.
47:02
Speaker 1: You got the scene when she's going back there to
47:04
Speaker 1: talk to him, and the guy Jack's off on her
47:06
Speaker 1: throws his scenen at her. It's an unforgettable movie for
47:10
Speaker 1: that alone. But then Hannibal Lector once again is helping
47:14
Speaker 1: solve who the killer could be. So I thought that
47:17
Speaker 1: was another interesting little Another interesting little take there is
47:21
Speaker 1: with the Hannibal Elector character that like, once again he's
47:24
Speaker 1: willing to help in exchange for some amenities or some
47:28
Speaker 1: better living conditions, and he uses this too the advantage
47:31
Speaker 1: to kill some guards and get the fuck out of
47:33
Speaker 1: a prison or whatever. And my number one crime movie,
47:37
Speaker 1: the one you've been waiting for. You might have guessed
47:40
Speaker 1: it already, but it's going to be none other than Zodiac,
47:44
Speaker 1: the two thousand and seven David Fincher movie. And I'm
47:47
Speaker 1: probably a little bit biased on this right now because
47:49
Speaker 1: I've been getting back into the Zodiac case and doing
47:52
Speaker 1: a lot more kind of like refreshers and some additional
47:56
Speaker 1: research by reading that zodiactually book, and that kind of
47:59
Speaker 1: just had me take on a whole other perspective with
48:02
Speaker 1: this case, which doesn't really line up with this movie,
48:05
Speaker 1: to be completely honest, But I just really appreciate that,
48:09
Speaker 1: and I still really like this movie as a crime movie.
48:13
Speaker 1: This is one where before reading this book that's more
48:15
Speaker 1: focused on what was actually going on in the late
48:19
Speaker 1: sixties and early seventies with the Zodiac Killer, We've listened
48:22
Speaker 1: to kind of like a docu podcast or whatever about
48:27
Speaker 1: the Zodiac that went into detail about all the crimes
48:30
Speaker 1: and had a lot of interviews with people that worked
48:33
Speaker 1: on the case and stuff like that. So it was
48:34
Speaker 1: a really good Zodiac documentary or whatever. I think it
48:38
Speaker 1: was called Monster or something like that, like Monster the
48:41
Speaker 1: Zodiac Killer or something is on Spotify, I think, but
48:45
Speaker 1: it pretty much fills you in on like the basic
48:47
Speaker 1: understanding of what happened in the case. I listened to that,
48:50
Speaker 1: and then I watched the David Fincher movie after that,
48:53
Speaker 1: and man, fantastic movie. Even though I was pretty much
48:57
Speaker 1: convinced at that point that Arthur Lee Allen Won wasn't
49:00
Speaker 1: the Zodiac Killer, at the time, I was thinking that
49:03
Speaker 1: there was just like a Zodiac killer that was responsible
49:07
Speaker 1: for all these crimes for the most part anyway, So
49:09
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, Okay, it's probably not Arthur Lee
49:12
Speaker 1: Allen though, because that seems to be the guy that
49:14
Speaker 1: everyone thinks it is, and if it was, they probably
49:16
Speaker 1: would have found something on him and been able to
49:20
Speaker 1: have caught him by now. But with all that being said,
49:23
Speaker 1: after watching this movie, I was back to thinking that
49:26
Speaker 1: it was Arthur Lee Allen because it does such a
49:28
Speaker 1: good job of framing him as the most likely suspect
49:33
Speaker 1: or the most likely you know, person that was probably
49:36
Speaker 1: the Zodiac killer. So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna
49:39
Speaker 1: have to look into this guy again. So then I
49:40
Speaker 1: started looking into it more and doing more research and
49:43
Speaker 1: stuff after watching the movie, and I really couldn't find
49:46
Speaker 1: anything else that was like more helpful. And that is
49:49
Speaker 1: something that I thought was really that I really appreciated
49:53
Speaker 1: about that Zodia actually book it kind of goes into
49:55
Speaker 1: that and it frames Arthur Lee Allen as a good
49:59
Speaker 1: patent suspect for the for the Lake barri Essa killings,
50:04
Speaker 1: the ones where the where Brian Hartnell and Cecilia Shepherd
50:07
Speaker 1: were stabbed, and that is the one where Brian Hartnell survived,
50:12
Speaker 1: but the killer was wearing like a almost like an
50:15
Speaker 1: executioner hood and talked to them for quite a while.
50:18
Speaker 1: He had them at gunpoint and pretty much told him
50:21
Speaker 1: like he was going to rob them and then leave
50:23
Speaker 1: them alone, but he ended up tying him up and
50:25
Speaker 1: stabbing him and they did. And for that one, I
50:29
Speaker 1: can see like where in the book he's talking about
50:32
Speaker 1: how Arthur Lee Allen is a pretty is a fairly
50:36
Speaker 1: likely suspect for that crime, but probably not the other ones.
50:41
Speaker 1: But they were so focused on this all tying together
50:44
Speaker 1: that it seems like they probably overlooked like maybe some
50:47
Speaker 1: evidence in these individual crimes or like potential suspects, because
50:51
Speaker 1: once it was tied to Zodiac, they kind of took
50:53
Speaker 1: the eyewitness info from the second shooting and we're like, oh,
50:58
Speaker 1: Arthur Lee Allen doesn't fit that. You know, he's way
51:00
Speaker 1: too big, he's bald, he's not you know, he's too old,
51:04
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, where it's like, if you look
51:06
Speaker 1: at these as disconnected crimes, then having more than one
51:11
Speaker 1: eyewitness report makes sense, you know what I mean. As
51:14
Speaker 1: far as the movie goes, though, I think it does
51:15
Speaker 1: a really good job of telling the Robert Graysmith story
51:20
Speaker 1: from his book Zodiac and Zodiac on mass from two
51:23
Speaker 1: thousand and two, and overall obviously really solid crime flick.
51:27
Speaker 1: I feel like the way it plays out, it's one
51:30
Speaker 1: that'll get you hooked and it'll be like, damn, this
51:33
Speaker 1: is what really happened. Although I don't really think that's
51:35
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. It does tell the events in the
51:39
Speaker 1: way that they were seen at the time. The most
51:42
Speaker 1: popular narrative was this one, so does a really good
51:45
Speaker 1: job telling that story. It starts Jake Gillenhall, Mark Ruffalo,
51:49
Speaker 1: Robert Downey Junior. You got Brian Cox, remember him from
51:52
Speaker 1: Man Hunter playing the fucking Hannibal electer, so he's in
51:56
Speaker 1: this movie too. And then you got Dermott mulroney the
52:00
Speaker 1: movie Scream six. Probably I don't really remember who he
52:04
Speaker 1: is in this movie, but probably my least favorite character
52:06
Speaker 1: in Scream six, So whatever that's worth. The story, I mean,
52:10
Speaker 1: it just kind of shows like the Zodiac murderers, the
52:14
Speaker 1: ciphers and how they called in kind of all the
52:17
Speaker 1: things that were going on in the public eye and
52:19
Speaker 1: the media and the newspapers and how you know, the
52:23
Speaker 1: characters the main characters involved were really just getting it.
52:27
Speaker 1: Completely consumed by this case, that's all they could spend
52:30
Speaker 1: their time on. They became obsessed with it, and they
52:33
Speaker 1: were determined to figure out who the Zodiac killer was,
52:37
Speaker 1: basically between like the writers at the papers, the lead
52:40
Speaker 1: detective Dave Tosky. And then it kind of wraps up
52:44
Speaker 1: at the end on a really suspicious note where it
52:47
Speaker 1: kind of points its finger again at this one character
52:50
Speaker 1: and it's like, this is who I think is the
52:52
Speaker 1: fucking Zodiac And it's like, oh, okay, well interesting, I guess,
52:56
Speaker 1: interesting way to end the movie. I mean, I guess
52:58
Speaker 1: that's the whole point though, is like this is his
53:00
Speaker 1: point of view of how things went down.
53:03
Speaker 2: So that's it.
53:04
Speaker 1: Those are twenty three of my favorite crime movies of
53:07
Speaker 1: all time. Let me know in the comments below some
53:10
Speaker 1: of your favorite crime movies. How would you have done
53:12
Speaker 1: this list differently? Did I get the order right? Are
53:15
Speaker 1: there some of these movies on here that you think
53:17
Speaker 1: are way out of place? Would you put some of
53:20
Speaker 1: these way higher?
53:20
Speaker 2: Way lower?
53:21
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53:26
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53:28
Speaker 1: for bonus episodes, so there are some bonus episodes on there.
53:31
Speaker 1: I'm going to get back to recording those a little
53:35
Speaker 1: more regularly. I just haven't had any time to get
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Speaker 1: any new episodes done, so I've kind of been in
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Speaker 1: the middle. I've been stuck in the middle of watching
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Speaker 1: Twin Peaks for like a year now. But I'm going
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Speaker 1: to finish it up pretty soon and we'll get those
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Speaker 1: taken care of some Thanks for watching.
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Speaker 2: Good Night