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Ep 244 - Will Alvin Kamara Return? · Saints Block Party Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully we could keep it abbreviated, but there's just too much saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: just stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's always some shit bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had the drive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We floated and chilling and you know just just cool and then you get a cake going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Armstrong's podcast and then Tren is so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Boy, so we we wanted to pop on and talk about it and discuss it and also
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[SPEAKER_01]: at our our knowledge of like the situation or what have you, but I'm gonna say the most watch thing I think I've ever said in my life when I say it right now on this podcast is that I want this podcast to be done hopefully within 40 minutes because Olivia Benson is calling my name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I need to need to be downstairs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to be tuned in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They suspended my girl last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just I got I got things to do with things got things to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's it is it's law and order night in this household and then they got brand new episodes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't try to knock this one out, and it 40 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But before we get into the, you know, I have a tomorrow's situation and go down that route, I just wanted to address, you know, there's a couple of things that've happened, saints wise, since we last recorded with our dude Matt Harmon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also just wanted to throw it really quickly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about the news that came out that we haven't been able to discuss is the Saints signing former Ole Miss, the Finns of Tackle, Zabian Harris, as an undrafted free agent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It got reported and then it was weird because he wasn't on like the rookie mini camp list, but then it came out officially that he signed
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[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of always some shit, in terms of just, I don't want to start with just in terms of the football player because I feel like every podcast would probably do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is just interesting about it to me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't know the situation, he went undrafted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe late day two, early day three grade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And fall into the purposes, I'm assuming that things that left him undrafted was his off the field, off the field issues.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he didn't work out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he just did not work out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you have off the field issues, and you don't like what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the off the field issues we're alluding to is at in 2024,
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[SPEAKER_01]: who's arrested for a domestic battery charge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I believe that same year, I don't know if it was the same day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also had a DUI.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, there's very no details whatsoever regarding any of those incidences, like there's nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've looked, I tried.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure if I really wanted to dig deeper, like I'm pretty sure I could find what I was looking for because that's what I do for daily basis in my job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But all that to say,
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[SPEAKER_01]: People on our pot, like people with friends or a podcast, like I remember we were talking about the design Watson situation, and we lost, we had the block like 40 plus people during that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not comparing his situation to the design Watson, I'm not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what is interesting to me that I have noticed is that there's a perception that Kellin Moore, in since he's been hit coach, like there's swell Saints, like that's kind of a joke in our discord.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yet, it's still the NFL and just sports and journal sliding scale of talent because during the season last year, who they bring in for a workout, Justin Tucker, all of it all of a sudden there's a potential different to tackle who has a day to day three draft grade that goes on drafted and guess what just what what one of the weakest areas on the team is different to tackle and the deal on so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, I just hated, and again, we, I'm not trying to get super deep into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know people would think we're just trying to be like all hiding my high MIT, but like, at the end of the day when I'm watching the Saints play in the football team and I know that's kind of hard because of all the things that've happened in the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like at some point, like I just want to feel good about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like the draft that just happened, it's just like, oh, okay, here we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here it goes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Gotta be kind of sprinkling a little something down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got to be, gotta have, gotta have it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's going to be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he has a chance to make the team just from, you know, from a need of talent standpoint, but, you know, he's a world-class pick, he's an up-and-down player, you know, from what I've seen, I didn't like to do a deep dive on him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, he was the center like a late day to day three type of guy, you know, big physical tell it's it, but his off the field stuff was just enormous, you know, and there's a lot of talk about the stuff that just, you know, we know how it is in college, you know, a lot of stuff just don't get reported.
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[SPEAKER_01]: told specifically with him that a, and I didn't ask what, but there are a lot of unreported things that happen in Ole Miss that that come on man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know have not, have not come down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know he was the last girl I know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It reminds me a lot of Camdichi.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like yeah, like the stuff that we knew about like the runner jumping out of windows and like that, but they were I do it just so much other stuff like a little just a little whispers like him and then a core comedy with the Ole Miss wouldn't even can DJ and hate to be all kind of stories just all kind of crazy and that's the side isn't college man, so
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[SPEAKER_03]: Look, we'll see where I like, you know, he has a chance to make an NFL career, you know, he's been punished by somewhat, by not being drafted.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you want to look at that as punishment, but he's on a NFL training camp roster, you know, all season roster and his up to them to just kind of stay clean and try to work himself back, but with those days, it's like you always, it's like always
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, you stay as clean as tell something happens.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then it's like, take you look down like, well, why'd you sign of it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And why'd you sign of it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why'd you even sign of it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, it's just one of the weird situations.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we'll see, bro, like, you know, hopefully, hopefully it just all works itself out, like the Justin Tucker situation where he just didn't even get signed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, he did and I just went to apologize for our people watching on YouTube for whatever reason and I noticed this is the second time it's done this that in the past when we started recording it used to automatically start like start live streaming on YouTube and now it doesn't unless I had the button so people, so I didn't realize it until
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, like a fourth of the way in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I apologize for everyone who are joining to the live stream late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will have the full episode edited what have you later to see me if you want to go back and catch up on anything you may have missed at the beginning of the lot of the last stream when we recorded.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, let's, let's dive into this, this AK of a comma our situation and I think the best way to do it is like giving the, the appropriate timeline of everything that we've known dating back to the starter free agency, um, and kind of working, working ourselves, uh, to now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, oh, we'll quick, I know I'm just all over the place tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Happy birthday to our new show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's short birthday one of the realist dudes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Our biggest supporters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So much love to our do sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy birthday brother hope everything you get everything and that you need and deserve and much deserve.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, buddy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's go to this timeline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So things started percolating
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[SPEAKER_01]: First there was just there's quiet it just on a case feature in general, then things start to percolate after Travis H.A.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and signed because you had a European report put something out saying like, you know, what's the future of AK, essentially retirement, I had reached out and inquired myself about his future when those reports came out and this was what I was told is that at that point,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alvin Kumar was enjoying the off season and just living his life so much that he wasn't sure that he wanted to return to play football that that's he just wasn't sure which is was understandable which is a very common field in the house veteran common co-players at that part of the career with right after the season it just like man let leave me alone for a couple of months I'll let you know extremely common
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, even I'm leaving a part out that happened in March where that was the the crazy weird contract we construction that's like you've never, we like it's just it was just 100% cool bro, I don't know what copy, I don't know what kind of books copy looking up, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was, that was before Travis Hsine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, then he signed and then the talks of the time it was that was that an option.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there was a lot of radio again, a lot of radio silence in terms of his future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All during this, you had both Mickey Loomis and killing more being so mums the word and just not providing anything regarding AK's future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they were, they were.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It, like, Kellogg just, was just lying up there, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it was just, just, just lying his ass off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause he didn't really have a, he didn't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The best way Kellogg can lie is just, yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he just kind of like, the process, you know, we love it, King.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he says the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We love him, Cameroon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, we gotta let the process process process process.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the process can be, the process.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, okay, where am I?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I just say like, yeah, kids, like, I hope you be here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just, I like that, but they didn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No one, no one said anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The draft comes and goes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Saints didn't add a running back at all in the draft and, you know, I know that they had an affinity for Mike Washington Junior but like it just didn't align in terms of where they're picking they didn't add a run back in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So one of the second, I'll second the third biggest domino to drop was AK goes on Toran Ampset's podcast and is very complimentary of Travis HN, very complimentary of the same strapped being Jordan Tyson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and just their draft, the draft picks in general, talk about he's excited to be playing the offense and kind of go on guard, guard, quilt, like misconception that there was like jealousy of what H and got in terms of like a contract.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you just read between the lines, AK was essentially coming out and announcing that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: He would, he intended to return to play for the Saints, and that was his plan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was very, very clear, even not reading between the lines.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was very, very obvious and up, then up to, so then, to run Matty's podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He, and again, I'm speaking of one area of the podcast that has since blown up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But basically, he said that he had heard in his sources that they had told him that there are people in the front office of the things that had in the, like, a gender or just had feelings against AK because he spoke up the regards to essentially Denis Allen getting fired.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He spearheaded the fire and looked at it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Denis has spearheaded it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Bill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So one of the chats that if love would have felt AK was gone, they want him to take a pay coat, which I understand, did the same with Cam, when production dropped, it's all of the AK took stuff that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we'll get into that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the whole reason why we're having this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and that kind of took, you know, it blew up on social media and say Twitter and the like and what happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now we're here at what his feature is or is going to be what the Saints are not going to be the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I wanted to also interject what we have reported in the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you go back and you listen to the episode, I think we either recorded the day DA got fired or the day after or the day didn't telling got fired, we specifically reported.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that Gail Benson went to the veterans of the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it was before the Panthers game or after the Panthers game, the one that Chris Alabe got hurt and the Saints were leading and then price, price, young, like lead, the Panthers to a victory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was his first, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cam Jordan, walking, walking, walking, walking, walking, walking, walking, walking, walking, walking, walking, almost, almost, walk home to Louisiana from North Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for them the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Gayle Benton had already, the owner of the Saints had already started to do surveillance of what she felt of the important members of the team, the veterans, the leaders of the team, what they, she should do regarding Dinosaur.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that included Amicmar, that included Cam Jordan, that included Demario Davis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, there's probably others in there that included as well, that I'm like, either I'm Virginia or one told.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But those were obviously three of the pillars
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[SPEAKER_01]: And guess what, all through those players were like, he needs to fucking go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you're thinking about it, like my humble opinion, he can go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that, like, we reported that on our podcast, when that happened in 2024, yeah, 2024.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what is a little weird is kind of like the retelling of it of it kind of like making it sound like a K was one who spearheaded this whole thing and it was just his decision because that's not how it was and if you know anything about a K if you ask him a question he's going to give you an honest fucking answer right like period so he was that he's also not he's also not going to like
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cause like a scene like he's not going to go up to the office and go like, I want to report this and he's not that guy, but if you ask him like, hey, bro, what do you think about this, like on some real shit, like shit, shit, let me tell you, he's going to tell it in his own even like with like interviews, he would do it like with, you know, with the presser in the locker room and they'll ask him some stuff, like he just kind of give you a look like, you know, we just, we just do what we told we were like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says so much if you if you really like have listened to it He says a ton.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like what in the first piece like we want to know like what's going on?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You got to watch him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you could just you could feel the pulse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I So Here I want to be careful of how I work this The general sense that I get right now
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[SPEAKER_01]: is that I think if it was left up to Mickey, Lumisson about you, I think he would make the decision to either more likely like cut, AK, and him no longer be the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the thing that is underlying is Gilbinson loves AK, loves AK.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is also, and we'll see what happens
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[SPEAKER_01]: When she has an affinity for a player, it's saying very similar thing happened with Zion Wilming's of the pelicans, where, and I think it's a much different situation where was Zion the right thing to do would be to trade him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But once you're in like girls like circle of trust or whatever, like you stamped, you were stamped.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's now a decision of one
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[SPEAKER_01]: going to have the goal to cut AK or secondly, will Gil Benson even allow him to cut AK.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if we're just being frank about it, now, no, a lot of people are talking about this notion of a pay cut for him or lack there of, I don't even know if that's been brought up, honestly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just from when I've heard from people, I've talked to, there's been no talks about copyright, like no copyright talks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's with no back channel talks?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, anyway, that was a lot of exposition.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are just your overall thoughts from starting from free agency to work things are now?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was just weird, bro, because then like Taran, he was on Twitter, like, defended himself, because the first clip that took put out and the way it was worded, it was like, it was like, he's saying,
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, like, people in the same organization, now people that are mad at AK, because he spearheaded the fire, Dennis Allen, and then you didn't even produce.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So people kind of took that as like, he was going at AK, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then like another clip came out with the full context, which even the first clip I was like, I understood what you was saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he wasn't saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he was, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was the affinity, K in the whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But then like, you know,
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying it's gonna be out of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: See, Ryan is nuts, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it's so much a heavy Ryan is nuts or he just can't stand pretty stealing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I know he just can't sell it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's
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[SPEAKER_03]: And look, he took a pay card and then he got rid of him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So there's a little, a lot of nasty work in there too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But the same, the same is do some nasty stuff sometime.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they also do stupid stuff where they're like loyal to a folk.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like a blender thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And when you loyal to a folk, but then you try to be like super business, like true business.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And there's people really pissed because it's like, like, like, you just being a consistent, like, be who you are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or you're going to be like a shrewd, cold,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you gonna be like this loyal person that just like rise with your players to the end be that Then like but pick one like don't just kind of flip flop right who you are and let's that's kind of the way I met with the AK thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like look Like okay, if you want to move on from him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I actually get it like I'm just from a very pure football standpoint I understand he's over third so it'll be over 30 years old he's the client and player has been healthy in two years has been able to maintain his health
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[SPEAKER_03]: I get it from a football standpoint.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like you could sell me either way going to keep them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll get rid of, but it's like, make the decision like, all this kind of like, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just this weird or nobody wants to make it like, even Mickey Loom is, you mentioned he was on a series XM.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they asked him about, oh, yes, be it around the bush, you know, just in that Mickey talk without just saying no, like, hey, he's on our team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He did the whole, yeah, we used on the contract.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, y'all know shit, like we know he's at the cracks, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But what is the deal?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think essentially, you got an out in Comer, who pretty much goes radio solid after the scene.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, after the season ends.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He goes radio solid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't think.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Been doing that for years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't do the OTAs thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't come from all that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then from the same position, they're like, OK, we got to run it back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: getting paid, you know, among the top eight running bags in the league, yeah, who hasn't produced much in the last two years because he's been injured or offensive line, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That hasn't produced.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he goes radio solid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're trying to build this new offense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, we're going to make the moves we need to make.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you, you, we're going to do us and you do you and we'll figure it out later.
22:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Not only are they building a new office, but I think even bigger point of all of this is they're trying to build a new culture in the building.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very much.
22:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And the theme of this offseason, and we'll see how it plays out, and I'm not saying it's right or wrong, is the loudest voices in the room, and we've talked about this on our podcast in the past.
22:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, to Raman, Matthew, you said it a couple of months after we talked about it.
22:36
[SPEAKER_01]: the loud voices that were in the locker room that could rally the team together, the Demario Davis is the Cam Jordan's, I'm gonna come out as I wanna be careful and just because there's a part of me that understands like when a new coaching staff comes in, you have to, you gotta, you gotta, you know, put your stamp and imprint on the team and it's kind of very similar to, I use the analogy, if you,
23:05
[SPEAKER_01]: If you get promoted, right, if you worked at a long job for a long time, you get promoted at the same place.
23:13
[SPEAKER_01]: If you kind of had like this, you know, and Chloe that's kind of like loud and just always just can got rallied the employees now you're the manager.
23:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yo, hey, hey, who that should now, who that should down, right?
23:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Conversely, you had, like, at least speaking to like, Demario Davis and Cam Jordan lasting, like Cam Jordan at a 10 sex season, Demario Davis was still highly productive and still very good for the defense last year.
23:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's brand leader, great leader.
23:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's this trade off of,
23:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I do, and I've talked about this, not so, a little publicly, but not a lot publicly, is that Kevin Morn and Brandon, Staley, want to, they want to print their stamp on the team.
24:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And when you have large personalities, and this is not a shot at AK, but large personalities and someone who, if it's a tough loss or what have you, like who's the team going to go to?
24:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't go to AK because now you don't right we will see what Apple cam Jordan, but you don't have the Mario Davis.
24:20
[SPEAKER_01]: He's with the jets.
24:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Take some heel from to the purposes.
24:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Aren't isn't coming back.
24:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how loud and vocal he was to begin with.
24:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's this like this delicate balance of what to do in terms of building this new culture going forward.
24:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I play with fire.
24:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I think yes, the
24:45
[SPEAKER_03]: They need guys like that in the building not like all those the guys they need I don't know because I like like you said I understand their perspective It was like look we need kind of we need to build our Guys like I will knew how I'll lead this.
24:59
[SPEAKER_03]: These are guys relics from the Sean Peyton there You know what I'm saying like we need new voices in here our voices like these are the guys that
25:08
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, the, the, the fake kneel at the end of the fuck is game, you know what I'm saying?
25:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, like, like, they've been part of some shit, like, you know what I'm saying?
25:17
[SPEAKER_03]: They've brought it like these, these, these, these, these protests and all this stuff, you know, so it's like, one of those things where,
25:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Management is kind of like, yeah, let's kind of get these guys out of here because they're kind of bigger than that voice is a kind of bigger than I was, you know, I'm saying, yes, and this I all coaches go to all coaches all see, so we're showing pink for us can't he got a lot of this old vets that just been to just like stamp in the locker room, I read a lot of those guys because Sean Peyton won his voice to be the one that's heard, you know, I'm saying.
25:49
[SPEAKER_03]: So right along, this is ego is, you know, it's just how like a lot of this stuff goes, but I do think there will be a vacuum like a leadership vacuum.
25:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, especially, especially, let's get ready, okay, yeah, like tomorrow like, bro, I was watching, um, I started watching like saints defense all 22 from that shit, just to kind of look at some players, I was watching a Carolina game in Carolina.
26:13
[SPEAKER_03]: the warrior was playing out of his mind.
26:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, god, Lee, but you could tell that was a game where they said, like, look.
26:21
[SPEAKER_03]: We got to find a win, you know what I'm saying?
26:23
[SPEAKER_03]: And he was playing, he was playing like, it was the fourth quarter in the National University championship game.
26:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's what he was playing like.
26:30
[SPEAKER_03]: And it was coming up like an eight game losing streak.
26:32
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
26:33
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's how he was playing.
26:34
[SPEAKER_03]: So you lose a guy like that that young players could look at, like, man, let's do 30, 30, 70 years old playing like that after losing eight games.
26:42
[SPEAKER_03]: He playing like this.
26:43
[SPEAKER_03]: You can get that out of there.
26:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Was that after the Rams game?
26:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Was that after the Rams game?
26:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to remember him.
26:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I had heard.
26:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I heard that after that ram's game connect with that ship was spiraling ship was spiraling and there's something how that connects and the players that really helped the team from fall in the park
27:12
[SPEAKER_03]: The Mario Davis had a stupid crazy game.
27:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you have joined that one or two sex in that game.
27:19
[SPEAKER_03]: That will come here.
27:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I think broke off as long as long as long as long as it's like catching running in that game.
27:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you know what I'm saying?
27:26
[SPEAKER_03]: You could tell like the leader said, man, we got to.
27:29
[SPEAKER_03]: And then Tyler Shuk, he was able to make some plays.
27:31
[SPEAKER_03]: And we got to be like one of the big wins of the season.
27:35
[SPEAKER_03]: It was the second winner of the season.
27:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
27:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks to that.
27:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
27:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Second winner of the season.
27:41
[SPEAKER_03]: It just goes to show like man, that leadership man is like we like his friends Some of some of us are like look at it cynically and black and I lead a ship like what does that even really mean?
27:51
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying it means something bro like it's hard to quantify, but it means something for real It does okay.
27:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's catch up on the chat.
28:00
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a lot to catch up on Oh, we didn't even talk about the fucking job dunk in article.
28:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I forgot the
28:08
[SPEAKER_03]: for the TL.
28:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I read.
28:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I woke up this morning.
28:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I did my same loop routine and give my coffee crack open on the dot columns.
28:16
[SPEAKER_03]: He was going on in my city.
28:19
[SPEAKER_03]: So I jumped on the clicked on it.
28:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Read it.
28:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, oh, shit, screenshot it put it on Twitter.
28:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Or two of the was hot, but it was hot.
28:29
[SPEAKER_01]: hot wolf.
28:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been so busy at work like I haven't been able to be like just online and generally if he's last two weeks but like it's hot.
28:37
[SPEAKER_01]: So dough 38.59.
28:39
[SPEAKER_01]: My problem is the article making it seem like AK is a problem without stress in all the failures of the Saints Brass to put a good product on the field.
28:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Car, Carmichael, pinning, D.A.
28:47
[SPEAKER_01]: to name a few.
28:47
[SPEAKER_01]: bars that was the narrative and when the narrative he wanted to push nope uh the the went 309 also like the thing that still is gets lost in this whole thing this whole thing is after Gilbinson fire Dennis Allen after that passage's game Mickey let us put the most passive aggressive like statement out ever because he didn't want to fire Dennis
29:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Allen.
29:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
29:16
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
29:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me.
29:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me catch one.
29:16
[SPEAKER_03]: You know who I said that.
29:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Then this album said that.
29:20
[SPEAKER_03]: We've later on Jay Glaze saying Mickey came to him and said, I'm not the one trying you were like.
29:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
29:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you guys ready to get Mickey Wormes.
29:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I love an apology.
29:31
[SPEAKER_00]: No, are you guys guys guys guys are Mickey Wormes.
29:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it a fuck you?
29:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway.
29:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Um.
29:38
[SPEAKER_01]: the the wits said a case or unbothered about all the noise is actually telling of how quote unquote Mickey truthfully feels about it.
29:41
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29:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Winnie 504 said Mickey high key salty that his guy isn't coaching the team and what we all know Mickey wanted to do it to stay here.
30:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, uh, let's see.
30:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I comedy said I do think it's folk values that Gayle chose to play your side over Luma's side.
30:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Concerning DA because she's never done anything like that with relation to the pelicans.
30:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Dosett's C-Mac was blessed.
30:16
[SPEAKER_01]: He got traded all the talk about him and Henry.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: not fallen off.
30:20
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't have to deal with the circus A. K. had to deal with since Breeze for Breeze retired.
30:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's Chris.
30:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Chris from a cafe got traded to fucking Kyle Shanna and, like, blessings on blessings.
30:33
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
30:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Blessings.
30:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I comedy also said, Kellon has low key Ben Ruthers to hear from when you're in he's like, yep, time to move on from came to Mario and take some.
30:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I, there's there is a part of me that gets that from maybe like a false standpoint, but at least I like Ryan and I talked about like the leadership standpoint,
30:48
[SPEAKER_01]: is going to be going to be interesting to see how it plays out.
30:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I commonly said, Dunkin article definitely read out the hit piece for when they cut AK or trade him, but as much as the hit piece as it was, Dunkin's main main point wasn't wrong.
31:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'll let you come around on on on on on that part.
31:09
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I was saying like, you know, I mean, you read the article is like,
31:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, you're right, even though there was a lot of it.
31:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you didn't talk about a terrible an office of nine and tight in blocking words, not that.
31:21
[SPEAKER_03]: But he did points up some good points like Elm Cameras, weren't a pass blocking was absolutely horrendous.
31:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's been awful.
31:31
[SPEAKER_03]: We were talking about on the Zoom's, bro.
31:32
[SPEAKER_03]: We was off talking about it.
31:34
[SPEAKER_03]: He allowed like six hexes.
31:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Something like that, like you got young quarterbacks, like that's like.
31:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, we had to bring in Devin Leo to do the past, right, like that.
31:43
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's on the key like that is nothing to do with nobody else, but I'm saying, like, that's all you know, this is the lack of broken tackle.
31:50
[SPEAKER_03]: That was his staple, you know, sandfield, disability, just break tackles.
31:54
[SPEAKER_03]: She just ain't there no more, you know, I'm saying this isn't good.
31:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Not offensive line.
32:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, he was putting some bad positions sometimes in past catching like in check downs.
32:04
[SPEAKER_03]: He was getting blasted by, uh, just blasted, run like, come on.
32:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's tough to talk to watch.
32:10
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk to the watch man, talk to the watch.
32:12
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, it was not, it was not a new one.
32:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I started cool.
32:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I put it like that.
32:16
[SPEAKER_03]: It was, like, it was straight to the point like,
32:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, literally, Jeff don't get into it by saying he should be grateful that he's under contract for another year, getting paid, what he's getting paid, and he should be grateful he's getting that, thank you for your service year instead of, you know, instead of thinking, you know, you're getting kicked out of something like that, even though AK has never had that position, you know, lands like AK is, AK said nothing bad about new, but none of this.
32:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, no, no.
32:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Come in at all.
32:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been the, well, the comments that they've made have been like,
32:48
[SPEAKER_01]: phrase in terms of what has happened offensively.
32:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's a, it's an interesting juxtaposition.
32:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I would also say, and I wouldn't care what I say this, but I would just say that Jeff Duncan is lucky that his name isn't on like a certain list that you have to register for and this, it's, it's prohibities.
33:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyhow, so I have an important question that I want to, we're going to talk about, we're going to both answer it after our, our, our break, but the two questions actually,
33:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Just AK being on the team for 2,026 makes the Saints a better team to do you think he ends up staying on the team or do you think that he will either being cut or trade it post tune for us so we're going to answer those questions after the break and then we're going to just quickly talk about working mini camp this weekend and we will be right back after this break.
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35:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So the first question I asked you is do you feel like AK being on the same to 2026 makes them a better team.
35:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I do.
35:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I do.
35:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I think with the addition of David Edwards, the addition of, you know, no effect and potentially ask it out, you know, depending on his development or whatever.
35:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you're going to see some more advantageous looks for AK, just in running games in the past game situation.
36:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you'd be better and he won't be used as D-Guy, that would be Travis D-Chan, he's going to get the bulk of the inside carries, the outside carries.
36:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I think, I think, AK.
36:15
[SPEAKER_03]: would be like a positive attribute for his team.
36:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Like now he will play like a lesser role for sure.
36:21
[SPEAKER_03]: And but I do think I do think the team is better with him.
36:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, he needs to get the pads blocking stuff under control because that's what keeps him on the field in passing down.
36:31
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, so they need to they need to figure it out.
36:34
[SPEAKER_03]: But other than that, you know, his leadership, like again, like back to the leadership thing, I think you need a guy like that.
36:39
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's a cable like we saw the day like, um,
36:43
[SPEAKER_03]: on, you know, Jordan Tyson, acting him on like his IG stories.
36:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I play his love, like, young players, Brian, like, who Camaro's that dude?
36:52
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
36:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Who?
36:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is weird for us talking about like, it was so right ago.
36:57
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so long, but right.
36:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was almost like a decade ago.
37:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, literally, bro.
37:04
[SPEAKER_03]: So.
37:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I just think it's okay that you've got to have like one or two of those plans and it's just like for the value.
37:10
[SPEAKER_03]: You can have a nice vibes like don't ruin the past.
37:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I think just keep them even if it's a thank you for your service here.
37:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I think it's worth it.
37:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And one thing and I agree with you wholeheartedly.
37:23
[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I will add to that I think
37:26
[SPEAKER_01]: is underrated is, you know, NFL network puts on games of like, you know, some of the best games from last season, and they put a couple of jacks games on.
37:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And I tried to watch, yeah, not watch the whole thing, but like watching pay attention when they've been on, you know, to just get a closer look at Travis HN and what have you.
37:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And one thing I've noticed is Jacksonville used, I won't say they used him super sporadically,
37:55
[SPEAKER_01]: man he like there were a lot of times where like there were like drives where he just wasn't on the field a lot.
38:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that and I think that's coming issue do things.
38:04
[SPEAKER_01]: One I think the Jack really like what they saw from Tutton and two I also felt like
38:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Jack to go and knew that HN was not going to resign and what have you said, I don't say they say sourd on them, but he wasn't on the fill line.
38:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying that that's a diss towards him.
38:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I say that all the say is that if AK is on the team in 2006, what it does improve is your running back depth.
38:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a different team.
38:32
[SPEAKER_01]: if you have to lean on AK for maybe a game, because maybe HN, you know, got the gets dinged up.
38:39
[SPEAKER_01]: At the post, if HN gets dinged up, then you're counting on maybe Devon Neo, maybe Audric Estimation, maybe Ty Chandler.
38:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's not very good.
38:51
[SPEAKER_01]: They get it dark pretty quick, like that's my point.
38:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So,
38:57
[SPEAKER_01]: It, when we saw a last year held bad the running back room got decimated.
39:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It got me.
39:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I mean, all back there.
39:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Evan, home.
39:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Evan, home.
39:05
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, we're on the team.
39:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out, Evan, home.
39:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He has some good, some good snacks last year.
39:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Good for now, it's room.
39:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So just from just the standpoint of,
39:16
[SPEAKER_01]: just having good running back depth.
39:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I think just that alone, you know, like you said, even if it's coming back is just a good, thank you for your service contract.
39:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Also like, speaking of it being weird, bra.
39:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe this is a team trying to change and learn, but it's all like this is also the same team trying to make you lose that game like Brandon Cook's, like 11 plus million dollars or whatever it was last season, which is a very much a thank you for your service contract.
39:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And then,
39:42
[SPEAKER_01]: didn't did not trade him to the bills where they couldn't gotten like the amazingly like 7th or 2008 7th.
39:49
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they like cut him so he could sign.
39:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So like the whole like picking and choosing when you want to be there for your service and that inconsistent shit is like pick a lane pick up on your lane.
40:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's back and forth.
40:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we have 63 concurrent viewers on right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate job close to 200 views, shout out to Dick Wolf.
40:12
[SPEAKER_01]: He's calling my name, but calling you, bro.
40:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Call me, bro.
40:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.
40:16
[SPEAKER_01]: SVU starts in an hour.
40:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is just a original law in order, which I don't mind missing like a couple of minutes into.
40:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I know how old I'm sounding right now.
40:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.
40:25
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little joys in life.
40:28
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you think this resolves?
40:30
[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm asking you on April, we'll start like April, May 7th, like in almost June, as you're May 7th, do you believe that AK will be on the team?
40:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Come week one of the 1226 same season.
40:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, I don't know what, I think you will.
40:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's gonna be on the team.
40:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I just think you'll be on the team, bro.
40:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he will, I think he will too, and I think Mickey will be not in the best mood about it.
41:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think he will be a little grouchy.
41:01
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, but I guess you're gonna love it, man.
41:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just do, because I honestly do believe that if he truly does,
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[SPEAKER_01]: wants to cut A.K.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think he has to go to jail for approval of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like certain there's certain moves that making runs team with so much power like he does like that that though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That would, I think, what require a gale to sign off on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just just don't get the sense that it may be, it may be sure what I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do ultimately think that he'll be on the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, like we just talked about, I think it's for the betterment of the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just better for the team, especially for this season, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not trying to tell A.K.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like a great weapon or what have you because, you know, he's, he's, he's the client and his production is the client.
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[SPEAKER_01]: every, every resource available for him this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: HN, AK, Alave, Jordan Tyson, Noah Fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John Johnson, Oscar Dell, like you want that, you want that cabinet field for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's like, oh, I want to go, I can do, I want to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just taking one option away and just having that fall off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, it, team wise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's the best thing for the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll see what plays out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Chuck, really pleased with it, Keith.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But bears when they have games.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Rams, Carolina, then he got hurt and felt his game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I've been just barely playing when I'm like, yeah, just bring a bag, right?
42:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bring a bag, then you can have like, at the end of the season, you can have like a true, you know, you know, we, we're going to miss you, send off.
42:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying like, it's just doing right, you know?
42:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, if we can't join, that's a different story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see what happens with him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I still don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to say, I don't know.
42:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea what, no clue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin Cash, shout out to for you for the $2 super chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, sir.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Off topic, which y'all's current favorite show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to even know
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't love the way season two ended or just I've like it didn't I didn't land as much as I thought it would for me I'm still gonna go with paradise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my current favorite show.
43:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, like this overall is my favorite show and I've watched In a wild man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just I was standing in the green show when I'm watching now is from I'm not watching the television I just am watching the time
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[SPEAKER_03]: but from the lady season, the firm that's one watchin' now, and in joining, it's awesome season, right?
43:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay, gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta push through.
43:47
[SPEAKER_03]: You gotta push through that show, because I go like, you get through points where it's like, come on man, like, whatever, what do you all even do?
43:54
[SPEAKER_03]: What does it happen in here?
43:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what does it happen in here?
43:57
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I stopped watching Lowe's.
43:58
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like, I never made it through Lowe's.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I just give up.
44:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tired of the group excuse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in the middle of season two and from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the first straight in season record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it, okay, that's maybe that's why.
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[SPEAKER_01]: got like the the point I like O girl who's like the nurse found out that her her ex is still like an addict and what have you.
44:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's around like where I'm at.
44:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me just catch up on the chat real quick and then we'll talk about Rookie Mini Camp in the episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do said I credit Kellen this.
44:33
[SPEAKER_01]: He wants all the talent.
44:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He lowkey gays her when it comes to winning and getting all the talent he can.
44:37
[SPEAKER_01]: The AK thing is the Mickey thing.
44:39
[SPEAKER_01]: that is very well said.
44:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And like we talked about how we applaud Kelly to identify the lack of a close enough on offense and using the whole off season to correct it.
44:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Sports highlight says as running back to I'll take AK all day, give me 600, 700 rushing yards.
44:58
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I asked for.
44:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, that's okay.
45:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take five hundred fifty all purpose yards.
45:12
[SPEAKER_01]: That's I would that would take that That would um Drew said how good was Alvin's past walking great when Breeze was playing that would be my question to duck in
45:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to like indicate that maybe aka like gave like less effort because of who the quarterbacks was like, I don't want to put that out there, but it's interesting.
45:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
45:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
45:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
45:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was just detail, maybe.
45:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
45:37
[SPEAKER_01]: It was it wasn't bad.
45:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I snapped though.
45:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was bad.
45:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Last thing.
45:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Give me.
45:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to spend too long on this.
45:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But rookie many camps this weekend.
45:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And and bet trials.
45:47
[SPEAKER_01]: We got young young way cool coming for a trail.
45:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Get it way.
45:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Get it home.
45:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So I wanted to get it out.
45:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Someone on Twitter, I forgot who it was.
45:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate for not crediting it, but it was basically said, like, it's going to be a great feeling like young way kicking like a game when it feel gold.
46:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it felt good.
46:08
[SPEAKER_01]: This is so come and see them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Broward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I need it.
46:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Need it.
46:13
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.
46:13
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no offense to Charlie Smith or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to Charlie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For Charlie.
46:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, what's this one thing you would like to see coming out of rookie mini camp this weekend?
46:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I would also say I'm you can't say that Jordan Tyson doesn't get hurt.
46:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, say that that's nothing.
46:36
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
46:38
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
46:39
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a given.
46:39
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the way I was going.
46:41
[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, just show me some, like, this is highlight season.
46:44
[SPEAKER_03]: And like, you know, it's no real footballs being played.
46:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to see some good movies show me some Jordan Tyson looking smooth.
46:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Show me some Bryce Lance looking smooth, you know.
46:55
[SPEAKER_03]: But, not going to see much from like the tightness and the old line and the delight and a lot of no more but up.
47:01
[SPEAKER_03]: This, give me some good movies to be excited about.
47:04
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
47:05
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a real mini camp start.
47:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say I want that I want to see that one Brandon Coleman like play from Jordan Tyson where he's just there it is there it is actually I just need one I don't like just like just like one brand of cop he give you a 30 40 yard catch both for the yard catch
47:37
[SPEAKER_03]: He was on TikTok, I just came across a TikTok or a Yahoo, I mean, a YouTube one, you know, the shorts.
47:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, man.
47:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Homein, it was just like one clip of game, right?
47:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Nice ass playing.
47:48
[SPEAKER_03]: And I couldn't even forget it, too.
47:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, wow, it's a nice play.
47:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I told you, man, she knows.
47:53
[SPEAKER_01]: He gives his one play and then he block his ass off and that was it, bro.
47:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's a tender rest of the game.
47:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, no, bless you all, good night.
48:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but that's the one thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see that one just that just give me give me excited.
48:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's make me excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just make me make me feel something joyous.
48:10
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's not that's not one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just watch what.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then then go in the ice bath.
48:17
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a goddamn time.
48:18
[SPEAKER_01]: straight to the training room.
48:20
[SPEAKER_01]: If it's a icy hot dog, right?
48:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't give me too much.
48:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys, you got to get ready for first September.
48:25
[SPEAKER_01]: The NFL schedule comes out next week.
48:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so with that, I think it's Tuesday, Wednesday.
48:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But with that said, we'll have our, we don't have to recap, Ricky.
48:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Many can't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't talk about the schedule release.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll do our annual episode.
48:50
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll go through pick the games, we'll build the Saints, we're going to win a lose.
48:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You hit it right on the head last year.
48:56
[SPEAKER_01]: You said six wins and they eat it, six wins.
48:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I had them at five.
49:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And the big thing, look at them dicey.
49:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at dicey, we'll look at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but the big thing that comes out of the schedule releases, then we are all able to vote for the same spot party podcast big meet up game in New Orleans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll dive into that all next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But just to kind of go over our schedule as we wrap this up tomorrow morning is Greco cell that we're recording with that's going to be Patreon only YouTube member only or we'll figure out how long it's going to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we're released to everybody else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to come back and recap Ricky mini camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sunday Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after the schedule gets released, we will have our schedule release episode next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we are.
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49:53
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49:57
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to wrap this up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go watch along in order and be content and relax for these next couple of three days.
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