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- 0:03Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August twelve. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
- 0:12Speaker 1: And now a guy who hasn't been around tree Sap
- 0:14Speaker 1: in weeks because Blumbergoo is not an option j P Chat,
- 0:22Speaker 1: welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon
- 0:26Speaker 1: as the Jaguars get ready for the Cleveland Browns in
- 0:29Speaker 1: preseason Week one that's coming up Saturday night at seven o'clock.
- 0:33Speaker 1: We've got a busy show ahead, in fact, two hours
- 0:36Speaker 1: coming up on Jaguars Happy Hour. Preseason Week one is here.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Finally some football or something close to football Saturday night
- 0:44Speaker 1: at t I A. Bank Field. The quarterback conversation is
- 0:48Speaker 1: hot today. We'll hear from head coach Urban Meyer coming up,
- 0:52Speaker 1: and he had some things to say before practice today
- 0:54Speaker 1: about the quarterback time. He didn't announce a starter yet
- 0:58Speaker 1: for Saturday night's game. We're from serious XM radio host
- 1:01Speaker 1: Jim Miller at four or fifteen, former Jags quarterback. He
- 1:05Speaker 1: wore number twelve and seven, but not for long. Jeff
- 1:09Speaker 1: Lagman at four thirty will join us, and then we'll
- 1:12Speaker 1: have a second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on the
- 1:14Speaker 1: Jaguars Radio Network. That's at five o'clock, including a preview
- 1:18Speaker 1: of our public tailgate show interview with cornerback Shaquille Griffin,
- 1:24Speaker 1: and he's got a surprise for the fans, wearing number
- 1:27Speaker 1: twenty six if you have those jerseys. If you don't,
- 1:30Speaker 1: you might want to get those News of the Day.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Jaguars back on the practice field Thursday, the preparation continues
- 1:36Speaker 1: for the preseason opener against those Cleveland Browns. Head coach
- 1:40Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. Before practice was asked about the quarterback situation
- 1:44Speaker 1: coming up Saturday night. We'll finalize that tonight, I asked
- 1:48Speaker 1: Sean im Bavin. But they'll both play. UM. A lot
- 1:51Speaker 1: of it's who's gonna be behind Uh. We just want
- 1:54Speaker 1: to make sure we have PROTECTO both those quarterbacks for
- 1:57Speaker 1: BOTHO plays. It sounds like a little bit said what
- 2:00Speaker 1: happens in the offensive line could affect that. But both
- 2:03Speaker 1: will play. He was not ready to name a starter.
- 2:05Speaker 1: He said they'll have meetings tonight to truly determine who
- 2:09Speaker 1: at least runs out of the tunnel first and onto
- 2:11Speaker 1: the field. They'll both play, as you you heard a
- 2:14Speaker 1: reminder say there after practice, Trevor Lawrence said he isn't
- 2:18Speaker 1: worried much about the playing time. The plan is the
- 2:21Speaker 1: same for him going into the game. Yeah, I'm I mean,
- 2:25Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna play, So that's just if I
- 2:27Speaker 1: know I'm gonna play, I'm gonna be prepared. And that's
- 2:29Speaker 1: the way I'm looking at it. So how much I
- 2:32Speaker 1: don't really don't really know for sure, Um sure, a
- 2:34Speaker 1: fair amount. So I'm just gonna be ready for for
- 2:37Speaker 1: whatever I have and then me and Gardner will will play. Well.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Here a little later from Trevor Lawrence deeper and his
- 2:42Speaker 1: knowledge of the playbook so far in this Jaguars offense
- 2:46Speaker 1: is Yeah, rookie quarterback gets ready for his first opportunity
- 2:51Speaker 1: in Jaguars teal. We did hear from earlier this week,
- 2:54Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Darrel Bevil. He said Lawrence is in a
- 2:58Speaker 1: fantastic spot when it comes to learning the offense, which
- 3:01Speaker 1: Ever said, well, you know he had there was two
- 3:03Speaker 1: days in there. You know, we we we moved him
- 3:05Speaker 1: back a little bit, and I think he responded. I
- 3:08Speaker 1: think it's you know, like I've told you guys, he's
- 3:10Speaker 1: he's really into it. It's really super important to him. Uh,
- 3:13Speaker 1: he's working hard every day. He's you know, Bryan Schotheimer
- 3:16Speaker 1: doing a hell of the job with him, so he's
- 3:18Speaker 1: he's in good hands that way. But in the last
- 3:21Speaker 1: couple of days, like the last four um you know,
- 3:24Speaker 1: you could kind of see him to continue to make
- 3:26Speaker 1: that climb again. There was a little bit of hang
- 3:28Speaker 1: up early and camp maybe about not a hang up
- 3:30Speaker 1: that might be too aggressive of a statement. But sixth
- 3:33Speaker 1: or seventh practice or so, Darryl Bevil said, you know what,
- 3:36Speaker 1: it might have piled up on him a little bit today.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Some of the installation doing it over and over again
- 3:42Speaker 1: kind of caught up with him. They weren't as crisp
- 3:44Speaker 1: in practice, some of the alignments were off. Well, they've
- 3:47Speaker 1: gone back and retraced their steps. It feels like a
- 3:49Speaker 1: few times in getting this offense together, and you hear
- 3:52Speaker 1: the confidence there from the offensive coordinator. By the way,
- 3:55Speaker 1: Bebel will be in the press box and the coach's
- 3:57Speaker 1: box throughout the season that he'll have communication with urban
- 4:01Speaker 1: Meyer on the field. Brian Schottenhammer will be on the
- 4:03Speaker 1: field offensively as well, getting the plays in to whatever
- 4:07Speaker 1: quarterback is wearing the coach to quarterback communication system in
- 4:11Speaker 1: their helmet. Well the other quarterback of course, at least
- 4:15Speaker 1: of note in this conversation right now, is Gardner Minshew
- 4:18Speaker 1: the second His performance in camp has really impressed had
- 4:22Speaker 1: Joe urban Meyer. I didn't know Menshew. I knew was
- 4:26Speaker 1: coach very well, Mike Leach and and you know, to
- 4:31Speaker 1: say we didn't you know, I don't say we got
- 4:32Speaker 1: off to a bad start, but I just didn't see
- 4:34Speaker 1: very much of him. But he's earned my respect. I
- 4:37Speaker 1: love that guy. He's a he's a warrior, competitor, he's
- 4:42Speaker 1: uh the fights, he's a fighter. I told him that
- 4:45Speaker 1: I just got great respect for Minshew. Yeah, and he
- 4:49Speaker 1: has had a solid camp. I think that's probably the
- 4:52Speaker 1: best way to say it. And urban Meyer told him
- 4:55Speaker 1: in the past that you're gonna give you an opportunity,
- 4:57Speaker 1: and and Minshew said as such a little while back
- 5:01Speaker 1: when he spoke with the media. That's all I asked
- 5:03Speaker 1: of them. And that's what they've given me, an opportunity.
- 5:06Speaker 1: And he's been out there a lot. They've been alternating
- 5:08Speaker 1: reps with the first team offense throughout training camp, and
- 5:11Speaker 1: I'm sure that will be the case at least tomorrow night.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Now what the future holds, who knows. It feels like
- 5:17Speaker 1: he's been the most consistent of the other three quarterbacks
- 5:20Speaker 1: that aren't named Trevor Lawrence in training camps so far.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Does that mean he sticks around? As if if Trevor
- 5:28Speaker 1: Lawrence wins the job, if you will, does he stick
- 5:31Speaker 1: around it? Does that value increase and then moves are
- 5:34Speaker 1: made down the line. Can't speculate that here, but either way,
- 5:38Speaker 1: it's good to have multiple quarterbacks having good camps. That
- 5:42Speaker 1: is allowed. That's just fine and that we'll see what
- 5:46Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and the Gardner mints you the second half
- 5:48Speaker 1: in mind tomorrow night. Now up front, it's a big
- 5:51Speaker 1: storyline this week. The offensive line for the Jaguars. All
- 5:54Speaker 1: five guys, of course, returned for the season. Cam Robinson
- 5:58Speaker 1: on the left side, the left tackle, spoke with the
- 6:00Speaker 1: media Wednesday and he was asked about Walker Little. He
- 6:04Speaker 1: says he has a good relationship with Walker Little and
- 6:07Speaker 1: that's about all he had to say. Though. He did
- 6:09Speaker 1: talk a lot about the culture that head coach Urban
- 6:12Speaker 1: Meyer has instilled here in Jacksonville and it's familiar to
- 6:15Speaker 1: his old college days. Uh. Yeah, it was exciting. Um,
- 6:20Speaker 1: you know, I think that's huge. Um, guys who who
- 6:23Speaker 1: who've done it before? You know what I'm saying, like,
- 6:25Speaker 1: if you just mentioned the winning culture and I know
- 6:27Speaker 1: he comes from that, and that's all he would that's
- 6:29Speaker 1: all he would accept. So, UM, I think that that
- 6:31Speaker 1: was big for me and I think that's big for
- 6:33Speaker 1: the whole organization. Um. Just I think the approach said
- 6:36Speaker 1: a not accepting nothing but anybody's best. Um, if he's
- 6:39Speaker 1: not if he's not up to his standard, and it's
- 6:41Speaker 1: unacceptable if it's not up. So you know, I'm saying
- 6:43Speaker 1: what we're trying to get done and is not acceptable
- 6:46Speaker 1: and they won't be accepted. Yeah, it won't be accepted here.
- 6:49Speaker 1: It's that That's the way things have changed a bit
- 6:52Speaker 1: with Urban Meyer at the Hell of Course Camp. Robinson
- 6:54Speaker 1: played at Alabama under Nick Saban, similar mindset there, so
- 6:59Speaker 1: he's used this type of coaching and philosophy and when
- 7:04Speaker 1: you walk in the building every day, and especially when
- 7:06Speaker 1: you're on that run of that practice field, you better
- 7:08Speaker 1: be ready to give everything you have. Well he knows
- 7:11Speaker 1: that anyway, and certainly in a one year deal for
- 7:13Speaker 1: Cam Robinson thirteen point seven million dollars guaranteed in this
- 7:17Speaker 1: franchise tag deal that he signed, the one year fully
- 7:20Speaker 1: guaranteed deal they did draft Walker Little behind him. Little
- 7:25Speaker 1: has not had any reps at least that we've seen
- 7:27Speaker 1: with the first team offense as of yet. They have
- 7:31Speaker 1: been cross training Little some left tackle earlier in camp
- 7:34Speaker 1: this past week or so, has been playing a lot
- 7:36Speaker 1: of the right side, but then the last day or
- 7:39Speaker 1: two Little his mood back to the left side and
- 7:41Speaker 1: the In the first depth chart that came out in
- 7:45Speaker 1: the game release earlier this week, walk Little Little is
- 7:48Speaker 1: listed as a left tackle behind Cam Robinson. For what
- 7:51Speaker 1: it's worth, of course, all jobs are up as a
- 7:54Speaker 1: competition and training camp, at least this early in training
- 7:58Speaker 1: camp with about a month away, actually a month today
- 8:01Speaker 1: away from the start of the regular season. Let's move
- 8:04Speaker 1: to the defensive side of the ball, and plenty of
- 8:07Speaker 1: thoughts on that side. A lot of change over there,
- 8:09Speaker 1: a lot of new faces for the Shags defense face
- 8:12Speaker 1: coming back from last season. They're hoping for a step up.
- 8:15Speaker 1: His defensive end and outside linebacker Caleb and Chasing and Bo.
- 8:19Speaker 1: He's excited about this new defense and what that could
- 8:22Speaker 1: mean for the team and himself in the season ahead.
- 8:26Speaker 1: We're rolling out there. It's fast man. We've come in
- 8:28Speaker 1: from all different types of ways, and like this defense
- 8:30Speaker 1: is it's a lot of confidence coming in and just
- 8:33Speaker 1: I feel like it just was different about this ship,
- 8:35Speaker 1: Like we are kind of trusting each other as far
- 8:36Speaker 1: as uh, like everybody's kind of trusting that I'm gonna
- 8:40Speaker 1: do my job. I know, Shot gonna do his job,
- 8:42Speaker 1: Josh gonna do his job. So it's kind of getting
- 8:44Speaker 1: fun out there. And then you know, especially when you
- 8:46Speaker 1: compete out there and you're making plays and you're going
- 8:48Speaker 1: to get the number one pick who don't look like
- 8:50Speaker 1: no more look like a pro already. So it's like
- 8:53Speaker 1: when you're rushing her back, get to the quarter bade man,
- 8:55Speaker 1: Josh trying to compete, get back there, and he throwing dimes.
- 8:58Speaker 1: It's like, mom, but it's fine though, Like you know,
- 9:02Speaker 1: its just being in his defense and he's been his
- 9:04Speaker 1: atmosphere right now. As far Caleb and Chason is listed
- 9:07Speaker 1: as a first string outside linebacker on the initial game
- 9:12Speaker 1: release this week, opposite of Josh Allen on the other side,
- 9:16Speaker 1: Joe Chulvert, Miles jack Or the Mic and will linebackers, respectively.
- 9:20Speaker 1: And it would be nice to see Chase on step
- 9:22Speaker 1: up and and step into a bigger role this season
- 9:25Speaker 1: will maybe a change in that defense a little bit
- 9:28Speaker 1: with an opportunity to stand up. He has that athletic
- 9:31Speaker 1: ability to to chase some guys down the field if
- 9:33Speaker 1: he needs to go out and coverage a little bit. Boy,
- 9:36Speaker 1: if he can get to the pastor with that speed
- 9:38Speaker 1: he has around the edge and standing up, and that's
- 9:41Speaker 1: kind of his game, or it was at Ellis you
- 9:43Speaker 1: at least get back to that. That wasn't the case
- 9:45Speaker 1: last year for chaise On a little bit of a
- 9:47Speaker 1: disappointed well for everyone, it was a disappointing season a
- 9:50Speaker 1: year ago, but certainly for Caleb and Chaison who tried
- 9:54Speaker 1: to fight through his rookie season. Now he's ready to
- 9:57Speaker 1: take that next step. Coming up a little later in
- 10:00Speaker 1: second hour of Jaguar's Happy Hour, we're gonna hear from
- 10:02Speaker 1: Shaquille Griffin and the corner who's now in his fourth
- 10:07Speaker 1: now fifth in NFL season. Rather, he came in as
- 10:09Speaker 1: a free agent from the Seattle Seahawks, and he loves
- 10:13Speaker 1: the Urban Meyer mentality and the the idea of Urban
- 10:18Speaker 1: being on the field as early as he is every
- 10:21Speaker 1: day and trying to take an opportunity to go visit
- 10:24Speaker 1: with most every player he can as they walk out
- 10:26Speaker 1: on the field and set the tone for the day,
- 10:28Speaker 1: and we'll hear Shaquille Griffin's thoughts on those conversations, and
- 10:33Speaker 1: he'll give us a little insight to what he and
- 10:35Speaker 1: Urban discuss on nearly a daily basis before practice begins
- 10:39Speaker 1: on the Dream Finders Homes Practice Complex. So we're looking
- 10:42Speaker 1: forward to that. That will come up a little bit
- 10:43Speaker 1: later in our preview of Sunday's Conversation, or Saturday Night's Conversation,
- 10:49Speaker 1: rather in the public's tailgate show. Plutting ahead, we are
- 10:53Speaker 1: off and running on Jaguars Happy Hour. We'll come back
- 10:55Speaker 1: in a moment with Jim Miller, Sirius XM radio host
- 10:59Speaker 1: form Jaguars Quarterback for a very very short time and
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- 14:56Speaker 1: of the Checksonville Jaguars. But it's on the players, the whole,
- 15:05Speaker 1: each other accountable. And I wish I did that more
- 15:07Speaker 1: when I was here, right, I wish I was more
- 15:09Speaker 1: accountable to my teammates, telling guys that they weren't working hard,
- 15:12Speaker 1: to work harder and if and if he didn't like it,
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- 15:20Speaker 1: of guys that can do with some great things that
- 15:22Speaker 1: this city deserves. That you guys are working your butts
- 15:23Speaker 1: off and watching probably been DOES ten training camp so far.
- 15:26Speaker 1: I haven't seen the camp like this ever, but I
- 15:28Speaker 1: haven't seen guys compete like you guys. I was actually
- 15:31Speaker 1: telling there's some camps. I'm like, No one of these
- 15:33Speaker 1: teams are going eight and eight, right, No one of
- 15:34Speaker 1: these teams are going seven and nine or whatever the
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- 15:38Speaker 1: guys are working, you gotta keep doing that, right, That's
- 15:40Speaker 1: how you win games. You gotta work hard constantly. You
- 15:42Speaker 1: gotta hold each other accountable. That is Maurice Jones Drew
- 15:48Speaker 1: breaking down the Jaguars after practice earlier this week. He
- 15:51Speaker 1: was in with NFL Network and addressed the team right
- 15:55Speaker 1: after the workout and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy our veterans.
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- 16:07Speaker 1: Shattrick with you on Jaguars Happy Hour. Gad to hear
- 16:10Speaker 1: from Mojo there. His interview with Ashman Sullivan available on
- 16:14Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com currently, and he said it was great
- 16:17Speaker 1: to visit with him the other day. By the way,
- 16:19Speaker 1: he hasn't been over here in a long long time
- 16:22Speaker 1: to see the Jaguars. It sounds like he you know,
- 16:25Speaker 1: if this London game continues, which it sounds like it's
- 16:28Speaker 1: on track still, he will be with the team in
- 16:30Speaker 1: some capacity over there for some events around the game.
- 16:33Speaker 1: That would be good news. I know he's excited. He's
- 16:36Speaker 1: done a lot of work in the UK on television
- 16:39Speaker 1: over the last year or so with the BBC, so
- 16:42Speaker 1: I'm sure he's looking forward to that also is the
- 16:45Speaker 1: analyst for Los Angeles Rams Radio on a daily basis
- 16:48Speaker 1: on on a weekly basis in the booth, and is
- 16:52Speaker 1: of course the Jaguars career leader in touchdowns one career touchdown,
- 16:56Speaker 1: sixty eight rushing touchdowns, also a franchise record. Let's hear
- 17:00Speaker 1: from another Jaguar. He doesn't have any Jaguar records because
- 17:03Speaker 1: he played only a very short piece of the seven season,
- 17:07Speaker 1: and in fact, he didn't even get in a game.
- 17:09Speaker 1: But he's Jim Miller from Sirius XM Radio who was
- 17:12Speaker 1: here at camp today. Was a quarterback with a number
- 17:16Speaker 1: of different teams in the NFL, Steelers, the Jags, Falcons,
- 17:19Speaker 1: Bears for a little while, the Buccaneers and the Patriots.
- 17:21Speaker 1: His last year in the league was two thousand four.
- 17:24Speaker 1: Had some time in Europe as well. He's currently the
- 17:27Speaker 1: Bears preseason television analyst. He's head back to Chicago tomorrow
- 17:31Speaker 1: to check out the Bears preseason opener, but he had
- 17:34Speaker 1: plenty of thoughts about the Jaguars organization, Urban Meyer and
- 17:38Speaker 1: the quarterback position here in Jacksonville. So let's get to it.
- 17:42Speaker 1: The Jaguars have a new head coach in Urban Meyer,
- 17:45Speaker 1: settling in. He's super consistent in his message. He'll never deviate,
- 17:50Speaker 1: whether it's in media, in front of the team. You know,
- 17:53Speaker 1: he has those standards of excellence and I'm curious everybody
- 17:57Speaker 1: is if that can translate to the NFL. So far,
- 18:00Speaker 1: it feels like the guys have bought it. Yeah. I
- 18:02Speaker 1: think he's an artful communicator. I think he's very good
- 18:04Speaker 1: at it. Uh you know, just even noticing out here
- 18:07Speaker 1: at practice, you know, he's a very hands on coach.
- 18:08Speaker 1: You know, anybody that I saw, Like I listed three guys,
- 18:11Speaker 1: he had a zigbo who he called on. They were
- 18:14Speaker 1: doing some shed blocking drills where he was hands on
- 18:16Speaker 1: from their chappelle. The linebacker uh as well had Shark
- 18:19Speaker 1: out there. So he's and it's almost it's almost like
- 18:21Speaker 1: the price is right. He calls him out, like come
- 18:23Speaker 1: on down here, next up. You know, I'm gonna coach
- 18:25Speaker 1: up and do some things with you. And part of
- 18:27Speaker 1: it is getting to know the players. And I'm sure
- 18:29Speaker 1: he's he's getting to know all these guys right now,
- 18:31Speaker 1: and they're gonna have some difficult decisions because they're you know,
- 18:34Speaker 1: I think it's competitive across the board here. I really
- 18:36Speaker 1: do I think everybody's got a clean slate from the
- 18:38Speaker 1: players that were here and the players that they brought
- 18:40Speaker 1: in when a super free agency and there's a lot
- 18:43Speaker 1: of them now. They're obviously gonna get opportunities here and
- 18:45Speaker 1: they know there's some open spots and it's a clean
- 18:47Speaker 1: slate for all. Even this morning said they're still a
- 18:50Speaker 1: quarterback competition, and that would be the case going in
- 18:53Speaker 1: maybe all the way to Week one against Houston. Do
- 18:56Speaker 1: you buy it? Um? No, I agree with it. I
- 18:59Speaker 1: think that they're they're ultimately going to make a decision.
- 19:01Speaker 1: I think everybody just kind of by default thinks that's
- 19:04Speaker 1: gonna be Trevor Lawrence is gonna get in here. But
- 19:06Speaker 1: you can't just throw the kid to the wolves. You
- 19:08Speaker 1: know a Darryll Bevil who I know well what played
- 19:10Speaker 1: against him in college and know him as a coach.
- 19:12Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna know where he's at. Can he
- 19:14Speaker 1: protect himself? Can he you know, does he understand the
- 19:17Speaker 1: blitz is the hot routes, the audibles, all those things,
- 19:20Speaker 1: and that's gonna show itself. So I think, you know,
- 19:22Speaker 1: for coach, I don't know why any coach would just
- 19:25Speaker 1: declare the position open especially when you've got a young
- 19:27Speaker 1: guy coming in. You know, I give the example of
- 19:30Speaker 1: Wilson up there for the for the New York Jets.
- 19:33Speaker 1: Unfortunately Greg Knatt passes away and they really that kids
- 19:36Speaker 1: not insulated right now. There's not a veteran around him
- 19:39Speaker 1: that has really played, and it's a young team that
- 19:41Speaker 1: have have a lot of competitive spots. I think it's
- 19:44Speaker 1: much better here for Trevor Lawrence. But I think he's
- 19:47Speaker 1: got to show all those things, not just throw him
- 19:49Speaker 1: to the Wolves. If he if he's earned the position,
- 19:51Speaker 1: when he's ready to play, hell, he'll get out there.
- 19:53Speaker 1: And obviously that's a credit to Gardner Minshew to really
- 19:56Speaker 1: coming out and compete, and he hasn't conceded anything and
- 19:58Speaker 1: he's making in a competitive room. Trevor Lawrence is the
- 20:02Speaker 1: future of if it goes Trevor Lawrence's way, Does Gardner
- 20:06Speaker 1: Minsh you stick around here as the backup? Does he
- 20:08Speaker 1: have value elsewhere in the league? How do you see
- 20:10Speaker 1: his value? Well, you know, you listen to Urban Myri.
- 20:13Speaker 1: He said, Hey, this isn't a four year plan, it's
- 20:15Speaker 1: a one year plan. And I would think Gardner comes
- 20:17Speaker 1: in with the most experience that God forbid. If Trevor
- 20:20Speaker 1: were to go down to injury, I think Gardner gives
- 20:22Speaker 1: you a better chance to win than no offense. To
- 20:24Speaker 1: see j Bethard, he has played from his standpoint, but
- 20:28Speaker 1: to me, Minshew is a physical upgrade to him, So
- 20:31Speaker 1: to me, I think there's value in keeping Minshew here.
- 20:34Speaker 1: Jake Luton, the young, young arm guy, He's a project
- 20:37Speaker 1: that's gonna take a little more time. Yeah, No, I
- 20:39Speaker 1: like Jake Luton. He's got a big arm. Again, he
- 20:41Speaker 1: got his feet wet last year. Wasn't ready from that standpoint,
- 20:44Speaker 1: so he's still marinating. So they're gonna have obviously a
- 20:46Speaker 1: decision to make about the backup. But I think if
- 20:49Speaker 1: Trevor were to go down, if he is the starter,
- 20:51Speaker 1: I think Minshew definitely gives you an opportunity where you're
- 20:54Speaker 1: going to be competitive in games. Miller with us from
- 20:56Speaker 1: Moving the Chains on Serious XM Radio, Channel eight, NFL Video. Alright,
- 21:01Speaker 1: offensive line continuity. All five starters are back, They've added
- 21:04Speaker 1: Walker Little, They've got some projects in the interior they're
- 21:07Speaker 1: working on the last couple of years also, but having
- 21:10Speaker 1: that continuity and the offensive line coach back says a
- 21:14Speaker 1: lot about that group that there was some positive performance
- 21:17Speaker 1: up front, especially in the run game a year ago. Yeah,
- 21:20Speaker 1: I'd really liked the offensive line here, like you said,
- 21:22Speaker 1: because they played together. You're you're a lot of teams
- 21:25Speaker 1: don't have five guys coming back like that. And you know,
- 21:27Speaker 1: for camp, I think we knew if if everything were
- 21:30Speaker 1: to play out right, he plays this year under the franchise,
- 21:32Speaker 1: tagg and you'd like to think Walker Little has the opportunity.
- 21:35Speaker 1: It sounds like Walker has been very competitive this camp.
- 21:38Speaker 1: He's I've worked with or I've talked to a former
- 21:41Speaker 1: NFL offensive of line coach, Paul Alexander, and he actually
- 21:44Speaker 1: knows his kid very well. He's very competitive. He thinks
- 21:47Speaker 1: he's gonna be a really a top tier player in
- 21:50Speaker 1: the NFL. But again, until he's ready, I think he'll
- 21:52Speaker 1: be in that swing tackle spot. And then you just
- 21:54Speaker 1: like that like nice process of maturation that maybe he
- 21:57Speaker 1: steps in next year and and we'll see how it
- 21:59Speaker 1: plays out. They drafted a very good offensive lineman here,
- 22:02Speaker 1: got Cam Robinson on the one year franchise deal thirteen
- 22:05Speaker 1: point seven million dollars and and he bristled a bit
- 22:07Speaker 1: the other day when he was asked about Walker a
- 22:09Speaker 1: little bit. That's what competition is about. Yeah, I mean,
- 22:12Speaker 1: and it's across the NFL, and you know, Cam's got
- 22:15Speaker 1: a lot on the line. He knows he's got to
- 22:16Speaker 1: go out there and prove it. From his standpoint, maybe
- 22:19Speaker 1: this is his home if if he really shows out
- 22:21Speaker 1: and pulls out the way he's capable of doing. But
- 22:24Speaker 1: if the price tag gets too high, you know, but
- 22:26Speaker 1: you posy, You've got a guy who's ready to supplant him. Well,
- 22:29Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a very good offensive linement
- 22:32Speaker 1: when it's all said and done. Miller with us from
- 22:34Speaker 1: Serious XM Radio. Defensively, this whole thing is brand new.
- 22:38Speaker 1: Joe Collin comes in his first opportunity as a defensive
- 22:40Speaker 1: coordinator in the NFL. He's coming from that Baltimore system.
- 22:44Speaker 1: He said, they're gonna blitz from all over. They'll have
- 22:46Speaker 1: guys in different packages. So I guess Baltimore's scheme is
- 22:51Speaker 1: probably the closest to this. You'd say, yeah, yeah, I
- 22:54Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a hybrid. And obviously when you
- 22:56Speaker 1: when you sign guys who I know well, Roy Robertson Harris,
- 22:59Speaker 1: he's a very versatile defensive alignment he's an ascending player.
- 23:03Speaker 1: And then, like you said with guys you got on
- 23:05Speaker 1: the edge with McCrae. You look at Josh Allen. Unfortunately
- 23:08Speaker 1: for him, he missed some time last year expecting big
- 23:11Speaker 1: things in terms of the pass rush. You got good
- 23:13Speaker 1: to beefy interior defensive alignment like Hamilton and Roy Robinson.
- 23:17Speaker 1: Harris to me, he's such a good athlete. He can
- 23:19Speaker 1: line up in a lot of different places. So I
- 23:21Speaker 1: think Joe Collen's gonna manipulate that a little bit. Typically
- 23:23Speaker 1: that's what Baltimore has done. They dealt with some hybrid
- 23:26Speaker 1: type of situations and a lot of different looks. But
- 23:29Speaker 1: you've got to have the corners to cover. Needs c J.
- 23:31Speaker 1: Henderson to to obviously be healthy and Shaq Griffin. I
- 23:34Speaker 1: think this was a nice home and that's a nice
- 23:36Speaker 1: signing here from from the outside. From that standpoint, but
- 23:39Speaker 1: c J obviously getting him up and going, it's gonna
- 23:41Speaker 1: be a big part of it because you can only
- 23:43Speaker 1: blitz if you've got guys on the back end who
- 23:45Speaker 1: can really deal with that. Man coverage is Roy Robertson.
- 23:47Speaker 1: Harris's highlight in Chicago and it felt like the Bears
- 23:51Speaker 1: the last couple of years, it's kind of kept having
- 23:53Speaker 1: him around and he kept getting better and better. But
- 23:56Speaker 1: now is this chance to come get a big free
- 23:58Speaker 1: agent Patriot. Well, like I said, I think he's an
- 24:00Speaker 1: ascending player that the problem for him is Belal Nichols
- 24:02Speaker 1: has really jumped as well. But when Roy Robinson Harris,
- 24:06Speaker 1: every time he got in the game, he flashed. He
- 24:08Speaker 1: was making plays, Tackles for loss would get sacks here,
- 24:11Speaker 1: hits on on the quarterback was versatile where they could
- 24:14Speaker 1: move him around. Because people don't understand he when he
- 24:16Speaker 1: came out of college, he had a big weight fluctuation
- 24:18Speaker 1: what he was asking. He's kind of transformed his body
- 24:21Speaker 1: and has worked hard and I think he's gonna excel
- 24:23Speaker 1: down here in Jacksonville, just specifically with what Joe Collen
- 24:27Speaker 1: is gonna ask him to do with his versatility. What's
- 24:31Speaker 1: the win lost totals this year? Yeah, I mean when
- 24:34Speaker 1: you when you look at it, I think it's obviously
- 24:36Speaker 1: gonna be better than last year. I really believe that.
- 24:39Speaker 1: I think they'll be able to run the football. You've
- 24:41Speaker 1: got versatile athletes at the receiver position, Like what they'll
- 24:44Speaker 1: be able to do with a T n even if
- 24:46Speaker 1: he lines up in the slot. I think he's almost
- 24:48Speaker 1: like a James White player, but he's more explosive where
- 24:50Speaker 1: you can get the home run touchdown from that standpoint.
- 24:53Speaker 1: But yeah, I think we know this is a process.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Urban has probably never had a losing record. I know
- 24:59Speaker 1: that for a Facting college it may sting a little bit.
- 25:02Speaker 1: But you're hoping to eight and eight. But you shouldn't
- 25:05Speaker 1: say at eight nine because now there's the seventeenth game.
- 25:07Speaker 1: But I'm hoping if they can make that jump where
- 25:09Speaker 1: they're they're in that seven to eight win terrier, I
- 25:12Speaker 1: think you're you're looking at his success. Jim Miller from
- 25:15Speaker 1: Serious x M NFL Radio Channel eight eight good to
- 25:19Speaker 1: catch up with him today on the practice field as
- 25:21Speaker 1: the Jaguars continued their preparation Yet Roy Robertson Harris. He
- 25:24Speaker 1: had a firsthand look in Chicago the last few years
- 25:27Speaker 1: at him, and it was great to hear his thoughts
- 25:30Speaker 1: on what Robertson Harris could bring. And I think we've
- 25:33Speaker 1: seen that early in camp as well. There has been
- 25:35Speaker 1: some moments where that big fellow in the middle or
- 25:38Speaker 1: towards the interior steps up and and make some plays.
- 25:41Speaker 1: On defense. Let's see it in in some real games
- 25:43Speaker 1: coming up, maybe a little bit in the preseason, but
- 25:45Speaker 1: that's a good sign. And uh, you know, Roy Robertson
- 25:49Speaker 1: Harris so far is right there at the number one
- 25:52Speaker 1: spot at defensive end on the depth chart that came
- 25:54Speaker 1: out the other day. So he slated as a starter
- 25:57Speaker 1: as it stands right now on the defensive line. Uh.
- 26:00Speaker 1: And then his thoughts on Travis e t N quite interesting,
- 26:04Speaker 1: James White, was a comparison maybe that e t N
- 26:07Speaker 1: could be like in the NFL, how they could use
- 26:10Speaker 1: him out of that backfield spot. Uh, we'll see. I'm
- 26:14Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing what e t N can bring.
- 26:16Speaker 1: By the way, we're going through depth charts. E t
- 26:18Speaker 1: N is third on the depth chart currently. James Robinson
- 26:23Speaker 1: or Carlos Hide our number one, and then it's e
- 26:25Speaker 1: t N and Dario Gunbal a Zigbo controller down there
- 26:29Speaker 1: as well, plenty ahead. We'll come back in a moment.
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- 30:10Speaker 1: Better Jack's dot com the station that the Jaguars listened
- 30:15Speaker 1: to ten ten x ol home of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
- 30:26Speaker 1: I just met with most really the whole, all the
- 30:29Speaker 1: units on the team, and I think to be fairer.
- 30:33Speaker 1: What's the expectation. And the expectation is I want a
- 30:36Speaker 1: clean game. You know, we spend an amount of in
- 30:38Speaker 1: order amount of time on fundamentals of the game. UM,
- 30:41Speaker 1: and I expect the winner mentality, winner mentality that every played.
- 30:46Speaker 1: You know. The the reality is that there's people across
- 30:50Speaker 1: from me. You're trying to take your job, You're trying
- 30:51Speaker 1: to you you're some of these guys are in survival
- 30:53Speaker 1: both and I respect that. And so how do we
- 30:56Speaker 1: you know, we're going to back off a lot of
- 30:58Speaker 1: the two was in threes. They're gonna play the majority
- 31:02Speaker 1: of the game forty plus plays, get their legs back
- 31:05Speaker 1: because a lot of guys are blown out right now.
- 31:07Speaker 1: So a clean game, taking care of the football, hustling
- 31:11Speaker 1: on and off the field. Uh. And then competitors every grade,
- 31:15Speaker 1: every play is gonna be great at and you either
- 31:17Speaker 1: win the rapp or you lose the rap And that's
- 31:20Speaker 1: I'm hoping you see a real competitive group Saturday. That's
- 31:25Speaker 1: head coach Irvian Meyer. This morning before practice his expectations
- 31:29Speaker 1: for Saturday Nights preseason opener the Jaguars and the Cleveland
- 31:32Speaker 1: Browns coming up. J P. Shadrick on Jaguars Happy Hour,
- 31:37Speaker 1: Jaguars analyst Jeff Lackerman joining us, and good afternoon, lots.
- 31:41Speaker 1: It was a good afternoon, it is. Yeah, it was
- 31:44Speaker 1: a good practice today. Another spirited practice, but a no
- 31:47Speaker 1: padded practice. A little surprising. That's the first thing you
- 31:50Speaker 1: said when I saw you when we walked out of
- 31:51Speaker 1: the practice field together. What in the world I just
- 31:55Speaker 1: talked about. Why Because the guy's legs are kind of shot,
- 31:58Speaker 1: and he's talking about the two and the threes and
- 32:00Speaker 1: the force to some extent, those guys are gonna get
- 32:03Speaker 1: a lot of reps. And I've always been a big
- 32:06Speaker 1: believer in this. But it didn't mean that the coaches
- 32:09Speaker 1: that I played for were on the same page as me,
- 32:12Speaker 1: because that wasn't their job to be on the same
- 32:13Speaker 1: page as me. But I was always a big believer
- 32:16Speaker 1: and that you've got to let the players rest, because
- 32:18Speaker 1: if you really want to have an accurate accounting of
- 32:23Speaker 1: what their abilities are, then why not get them and
- 32:27Speaker 1: their bodies ready to show you what they can do.
- 32:30Speaker 1: What they really can do, not when they're fatigued and
- 32:32Speaker 1: their camp legs are weary, but when they're at their
- 32:35Speaker 1: best and they're fresh and ready to go, Because is
- 32:38Speaker 1: that not the situation that you want to have them
- 32:41Speaker 1: performing at the end of the day. If it's really
- 32:43Speaker 1: all about the players and increasing their value and making
- 32:46Speaker 1: sure things are great all around, that that's part of
- 32:49Speaker 1: that too, too kind of people. A lot of people
- 32:52Speaker 1: might be out there saying, what are you what are
- 32:53Speaker 1: you talking about? What to give you a comparison and
- 32:56Speaker 1: go back to the Coughlin era, he was always about
- 32:59Speaker 1: get the working, get the work, and get the work in.
- 33:02Speaker 1: And then we never really backed off prior to the
- 33:04Speaker 1: preseason games early on in the preseason. He backed off
- 33:07Speaker 1: a little bit when we got into the regular season.
- 33:10Speaker 1: And so the I always thought that the evaluation was
- 33:13Speaker 1: a little bit slanted because the players weren't fresh to
- 33:16Speaker 1: play a game, like when we went to the the
- 33:19Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game. I mean, our legs weren't fresh
- 33:21Speaker 1: underneath of us at all, you know, So how do
- 33:24Speaker 1: you really know what a guy can do if if
- 33:26Speaker 1: he wasn't even fresh and ready to go in a
- 33:27Speaker 1: game type situation? So I like Urban's way of thinking here,
- 33:32Speaker 1: because that is the evaluation that you want. I mean,
- 33:35Speaker 1: you want to be able to look at guys in
- 33:37Speaker 1: a in a game setting, because I've seen too many
- 33:39Speaker 1: guys that we're all due val and then couldn't make
- 33:43Speaker 1: the All State team. You know what I mean? I
- 33:45Speaker 1: know what you I know what you mean. It sounds
- 33:47Speaker 1: like you know. It brings up another conversation too, about
- 33:51Speaker 1: the approach to the rate the preseason games this year.
- 33:54Speaker 1: In the past, of course, at least in the recent past,
- 33:57Speaker 1: there have been four preseason games back in the old days,
- 34:00Speaker 1: six or seven if you're in the Hall of Fame
- 34:01Speaker 1: game all that. That's a long time ago. Now down
- 34:04Speaker 1: to three with basically you have two weeks from the
- 34:07Speaker 1: final preseason game to the first regular season game, with
- 34:11Speaker 1: the final cut in thereafter on that Tuesday after the
- 34:14Speaker 1: Sunday game. That is a lot of time, and how
- 34:16Speaker 1: do you manage reps and playing time every It feels
- 34:21Speaker 1: like there are a lot of different strategies, at least
- 34:23Speaker 1: in week one. I don't think there's any clear cut
- 34:26Speaker 1: formula that's the that's better than one or another. I
- 34:30Speaker 1: think everything really needs to be patterned or custom fit
- 34:34Speaker 1: to your football team. You've got a young football team
- 34:38Speaker 1: and it needs reps, and this team is a perfect
- 34:41Speaker 1: example of that. Then I think you give them reps.
- 34:43Speaker 1: If you have a football team that's veteran, then you
- 34:47Speaker 1: give them just enough to maybe tune up. Look at
- 34:49Speaker 1: what Andy Reids talking about doing with the Kansas City Chiefs.
- 34:52Speaker 1: He's talking about having Patrick Mahomes play a quarter or
- 34:55Speaker 1: something close to it in the first preseason game. That
- 34:59Speaker 1: now must be healthy. Well, and what will the approach be,
- 35:02Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. In the last couple of years,
- 35:05Speaker 1: it's been kind of vogue to not play guys at all,
- 35:08Speaker 1: and there's some guys I think that you could probably
- 35:10Speaker 1: take that approach with. Do you need to find out
- 35:13Speaker 1: if a j Can is gonna be a good right
- 35:15Speaker 1: guard or a solid right guard? I know that I
- 35:17Speaker 1: think he's gonna be okay. Do do I know that
- 35:20Speaker 1: Leonard is gonna be okay at center? Yeah? I got
- 35:22Speaker 1: a pretty good idea. Now they might have a personal Hey,
- 35:25Speaker 1: we want to get just get flowing at least one game,
- 35:28Speaker 1: just to get some something, you know. I think Calais
- 35:30Speaker 1: was a little bit like that. I want to get
- 35:32Speaker 1: a little bit of something done in a couple of games.
- 35:34Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in that you should get rough.
- 35:36Speaker 1: So I'm not a big believer. I'm not I'm not
- 35:38Speaker 1: in on the train that says don't play your guys
- 35:41Speaker 1: in the preseason at all. But with the three preseason games,
- 35:45Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying, well, well, the third
- 35:46Speaker 1: preseason game become what the fourth preseason game used to be,
- 35:49Speaker 1: where nobody plays well. No, you've got two weeks to
- 35:52Speaker 1: be able to have off between the last preseason game
- 35:55Speaker 1: and in the first regular season game. So I think
- 35:58Speaker 1: there's no approach. It's right. I'm a big believer in
- 36:01Speaker 1: that you've got to give guys some just to get
- 36:04Speaker 1: them ready, especially the younger they are, the more they need.
- 36:08Speaker 1: But you don't overdo it either if you know a
- 36:11Speaker 1: guy can play, because you know, part of this process
- 36:14Speaker 1: of the preseason is also about evaluation. It's an aid
- 36:18Speaker 1: to allow the personnel people and the coaches to say,
- 36:21Speaker 1: this is our fifty three and if you look at
- 36:25Speaker 1: it from that standpoint, you know you don't need to
- 36:27Speaker 1: overdo it as well. J. P. Shadrick, Jeff Loghuman the
- 36:30Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on a Thursday afternoon, preseason week one.
- 36:34Speaker 1: The Jags and the Browns coming up this Saturday night. So,
- 36:37Speaker 1: Coach Lockerman, how long will Trevor Lawrence play? I don't know.
- 36:42Speaker 1: I mean, if if or me making the decision. If
- 36:45Speaker 1: I'm coach Lockerman, I'm I'm probably having him play a
- 36:49Speaker 1: quarter quarter and a half maybe that long. Sure, alternating
- 36:55Speaker 1: with Minshew with the ones, it feels like they're both
- 36:57Speaker 1: gonna get time here. I think, here, here's the thing.
- 37:00Speaker 1: I want to have Trevor Lawrence out there with my
- 37:03Speaker 1: number one offensive line. That's yeah, and and Urban earlier
- 37:07Speaker 1: today kind of hinted at that in one of his
- 37:10Speaker 1: answers about playing time they were gonna play. Got to
- 37:12Speaker 1: see about what upfront and all. That didn't really go
- 37:14Speaker 1: all the way with that answer, but it felt like
- 37:16Speaker 1: he was going in that direction. Yeah, I would For me,
- 37:19Speaker 1: I would like to have him protected and yeah, and
- 37:21Speaker 1: the best way to protect him is to play him
- 37:23Speaker 1: with that number one offensive line. Now, there's some guys
- 37:26Speaker 1: maybe that you could sub in and out of there.
- 37:28Speaker 1: For example, if if Lender, for example, goes out, Shatley's in.
- 37:34Speaker 1: That doesn't worry him. He started so many games Tyler
- 37:36Speaker 1: Shatley's oh good football player. You know. So if if
- 37:40Speaker 1: Walker Little comes out at left tackle or goes in
- 37:43Speaker 1: at left tackle, Cam Robinson comes out, that doesn't worry me.
- 37:47Speaker 1: It doesn't know hasn't played a snap in the league.
- 37:50Speaker 1: I don't care if he hasn't played a snap or
- 37:51Speaker 1: not in the league. Watch watch the guy practice. He's
- 37:54Speaker 1: pretty good. So, I mean there's certain situations, but you know,
- 37:57Speaker 1: and and who starts first and who starts second, And
- 38:00Speaker 1: I'm sure the coaching staff is going to talk about
- 38:02Speaker 1: that at some point tonight, I think. Is that what
- 38:04Speaker 1: they said tonight? They said today? Uh? So, I mean,
- 38:09Speaker 1: however that plays out, as however it plays out. But
- 38:11Speaker 1: I would just however it plays out, I want my
- 38:13Speaker 1: number one offensive line with Trevor Lawrence. Okay, I'll say
- 38:17Speaker 1: this though, fans around here have been waiting a long
- 38:20Speaker 1: long time to hear the announcement of number sixteen Trevor
- 38:24Speaker 1: Lawrence and him run out of that tunnel. I know
- 38:26Speaker 1: they're probably gonna run as a team that you know,
- 38:28Speaker 1: as that goes these days, but uh, to see him
- 38:31Speaker 1: run out and then run into the game first, look,
- 38:34Speaker 1: I'm with you. I want to hear his name announce,
- 38:36Speaker 1: because I want to be able to hear and feel
- 38:39Speaker 1: the fan reaction because I think it will be if,
- 38:43Speaker 1: if it does happen, it will be something that's something
- 38:46Speaker 1: that you'll remember. I mean, especially if we're talking about
- 38:48Speaker 1: a player that we look back ten fifteen years from
- 38:52Speaker 1: now and there's multiple Super Bowl participations and victories that
- 38:55Speaker 1: are on the table, and you sit to you and
- 38:57Speaker 1: I remember that moment the first time he was ever
- 38:58Speaker 1: and ounce. I mean, you'll you'll go back to that moment.
- 39:01Speaker 1: And so yeah, I'd like to hear it too, you know,
- 39:04Speaker 1: I'd like to hear it in a big way. And
- 39:05Speaker 1: I can tell you this watching him in practice today
- 39:09Speaker 1: and JP, you've said it to me before, and we've
- 39:11Speaker 1: talked about this. You say that there's typically three or
- 39:14Speaker 1: four balls that you see him practice and you go,
- 39:17Speaker 1: oh my god, uh wow, he had that one today.
- 39:21Speaker 1: There was one of them. It was that deep ball.
- 39:24Speaker 1: There was Marvin Jones and did he catch it? Did
- 39:26Speaker 1: he not catch it? He could referee rule that it
- 39:28Speaker 1: was a catch, But there are very few people on
- 39:32Speaker 1: the planet they can make a throw like that. And
- 39:36Speaker 1: I'm standing there with Pat Kerwin. Okay, and Jim Miller,
- 39:40Speaker 1: and I just got done telling him you're lying about
- 39:42Speaker 1: there's always a few throws in a credit, you know.
- 39:45Speaker 1: I used it as my own, oh of course. But
- 39:49Speaker 1: he makes the throw and I turned the gym and
- 39:52Speaker 1: and Pat, you know, and I've known those guys a
- 39:54Speaker 1: long time. Jim was a teammate for a short period
- 39:57Speaker 1: of time. And Pat and I go back to thee
- 39:59Speaker 1: with Jets, and these are the guys that do series
- 40:03Speaker 1: x MNFL radio. We heard from Jim earlier and Pat
- 40:06Speaker 1: and Jim both turned to look at me and go,
- 40:07Speaker 1: So that's obviously one of the throws that you're talking
- 40:10Speaker 1: about that he makes every practice I'll make. Yeah, that
- 40:12Speaker 1: was that was one. Yeah, that was one of them.
- 40:14Speaker 1: Put that one on the list. Yeah, they're like wow.
- 40:16Speaker 1: You know, Pat Carwin was was extremely impressed. And by
- 40:20Speaker 1: the way, it was good catching up with those guys.
- 40:22Speaker 1: Those two guys are good dudes. They did a good
- 40:24Speaker 1: job on the radio. They do. They do a good job.
- 40:26Speaker 1: And they called me up every now and again to
- 40:27Speaker 1: go on when the Jaguars are good, which hasn't been
- 40:30Speaker 1: having my phone hasn't been ringing much lately. But but Pat,
- 40:34Speaker 1: Pat was brought on board a long time ago, because
- 40:38Speaker 1: at the time when I was in New York, he
- 40:40Speaker 1: was working at Hofstra in some capacity, and then eventually
- 40:44Speaker 1: has a prominent role with with the Jets, and then
- 40:47Speaker 1: eventually did some stuff with Pete Carroll and and now
- 40:50Speaker 1: he's doing radio Good Guy, great Guy, and uh and
- 40:53Speaker 1: those football final thought in this segment here, you know,
- 40:58Speaker 1: the first depth art came out, and there's always a
- 41:01Speaker 1: lot of dissection, dissection of that first step chart and
- 41:05Speaker 1: what it means and who's in the and all these things.
- 41:08Speaker 1: Let's touch on offense. We'll get the defense coming up
- 41:10Speaker 1: just a little bit. I found it interesting that the
- 41:13Speaker 1: running back room is James Robinson or Carlos Hide, and
- 41:17Speaker 1: then it's Travis et In along with those Zigbo and
- 41:20Speaker 1: the third unit if you will, and then Ogu and
- 41:23Speaker 1: Vally and ConTroll at the very bottom. But the Robinson
- 41:27Speaker 1: Hide or Combo. I find that interesting. Um, First of all,
- 41:33Speaker 1: Carlos Hides a veteran. Is he on par with James
- 41:38Speaker 1: Robinson's an eighth eighth year pro. No way. I'll say
- 41:43Speaker 1: he's in better shape than he was when he was
- 41:45Speaker 1: here before. He's in much better shape. And I got looking.
- 41:47Speaker 1: He's he's been good now, he's been good wherever he's been.
- 41:49Speaker 1: But yeah, after here just telling you did j P.
- 41:52Speaker 1: He is not James Robinson. Okay, James Robinson is one
- 41:57Speaker 1: of the better backs in the National Football League, and
- 41:59Speaker 1: he's probably the fastest back to the line of scrimmage
- 42:02Speaker 1: when the ball snapped and I'm talking about from the
- 42:04Speaker 1: time the ball is snapped to the running back crossing
- 42:06Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. There's not anybody faster in the
- 42:09Speaker 1: league than James Robinson. He doesn't waste any time he plants,
- 42:13Speaker 1: and he's downhill fast. And James Robinson, to me, is
- 42:17Speaker 1: the undisputed starter, and I think E. T N is not.
- 42:20Speaker 1: And maybe, and I'm just thinking out loud here, if
- 42:24Speaker 1: I was wanting to find a way to push E.
- 42:28Speaker 1: T N, I might name Hide and James Robinson as
- 42:34Speaker 1: co starters just to kind of, you know, give him
- 42:37Speaker 1: a little extra just to let him know that, hey, look,
- 42:40Speaker 1: you've got some work to do. Yeah, or put them three,
- 42:43Speaker 1: But but putting them as behind the coast arters, maybe
- 42:47Speaker 1: that'd given a little nuge. And I'm not saying that
- 42:49Speaker 1: that's what that was the intent there, but let me
- 42:52Speaker 1: ask you a question. Hit me, how many little drop
- 42:56Speaker 1: passes have we seen out of Travis E. T N
- 42:59Speaker 1: in the last tweek? Yea, not many? We have, Yes,
- 43:04Speaker 1: we have, there's been there's been a number of them.
- 43:07Speaker 1: I mean that's part of the consistency. I think that
- 43:09Speaker 1: they want to see out of him. But still, don't
- 43:11Speaker 1: get me wrong, I think he's gonna be a dynamic player.
- 43:14Speaker 1: And and the guy has I'm talking game breaking speed,
- 43:19Speaker 1: but you gotta catch it before you can show the
- 43:22Speaker 1: game breaking speed. And he's had a little bit of
- 43:24Speaker 1: drops and that is something that I think his concentration,
- 43:27Speaker 1: the consistency still got to be there. But I think
- 43:30Speaker 1: he is going to be a really good one. Yeah,
- 43:33Speaker 1: he's got to earn it though. But the other co starters.
- 43:35Speaker 1: You've got Trevor Lawrence and Gardner Minshew's co stars. And
- 43:38Speaker 1: I've I've said this before. I mean, for me, it's
- 43:40Speaker 1: you know, it's Gardner Minshew is a is a good backup.
- 43:43Speaker 1: And I think that Trevor Lawrence is clearly as like
- 43:46Speaker 1: we saw and I made the comment to Pat today
- 43:50Speaker 1: and and and I'm not trying to say this to
- 43:52Speaker 1: be mean, but that passed that Trevor Lawrence through the
- 43:55Speaker 1: deep one. Okay, to Marvin Jones, if you gave of
- 44:01Speaker 1: Gardner Minshow the opportunity to try to make that throw
- 44:04Speaker 1: ten times? Can he make it? Can you make it
- 44:08Speaker 1: ten times? No? No, no, no? Can gave him can
- 44:11Speaker 1: he make that throw one time out of ten? I
- 44:13Speaker 1: mean I'd give him one. Yeah, it would be hard,
- 44:16Speaker 1: it would be more difficult. Listen, And I'm not trying
- 44:19Speaker 1: to be critical. I'm trying to be real. I'm just
- 44:22Speaker 1: saying that Trevor Lawrence was a first overall, a consensus
- 44:26Speaker 1: number one overall pick for a reason. Listen, guy, I
- 44:30Speaker 1: have special tests, right, Lawrence has some arrows in the
- 44:32Speaker 1: quiver that mens she just doesn't It just doesn't have
- 44:36Speaker 1: and and there's no, there's nothing wrong with that because
- 44:38Speaker 1: there might be things and Gardner Minshew's arsenal that Trevor
- 44:42Speaker 1: Lawrence doesn't have. But but that arm and the build
- 44:45Speaker 1: ability to make a throw like that, that's tremendous. We'll
- 44:49Speaker 1: come back in a moment. Logs defensive talk. I want
- 44:51Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on the defensive Wine and a
- 44:54Speaker 1: couple of bunch of co starters on defense in the
- 44:57Speaker 1: step chart too, quite a few. Oh yes, quite a few.
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- 49:28Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Our. Plenty of discussion of the quarterback competition
- 49:34Speaker 1: for the Jaguars coming up, but first logs, let's get
- 49:36Speaker 1: to the injury report presented by Baptist Health, changing healthcare
- 49:40Speaker 1: for good. Dylan Moses on the active non football injury list.
- 49:43Speaker 1: That feels like a longer term situation. Maybe a project
- 49:47Speaker 1: head linebacker for Moses. Reserve COVID nineteen list. Daniel Thomas
- 49:52Speaker 1: still officially on TAVAN. Brian was pulling some weight around
- 49:56Speaker 1: behind him on the side today. It looked like so
- 49:58Speaker 1: he's on the way back. That's what Irvan Meyer said
- 50:00Speaker 1: at least today, that maybe today is the last day
- 50:03Speaker 1: to get him back off that list. And then Urban
- 50:05Speaker 1: Meyer had some other updates this morning on players. A
- 50:09Speaker 1: couple of guys out. DJ Chark of course with a
- 50:11Speaker 1: finger fracture. He's out, and Meyer said earlier he could
- 50:15Speaker 1: be ready for should be ready for Week one. Left
- 50:17Speaker 1: guard Andrew Norwell with an elbow issue. He will not
- 50:19Speaker 1: play Saturday. Another couple of guys he mentioned Rudy Ford,
- 50:23Speaker 1: the safety with a lower body issue. There's a chance
- 50:26Speaker 1: he could play Saturday and then wide Receever, Philip Door
- 50:28Speaker 1: set the second with a hamstring tightness, possible to play
- 50:33Speaker 1: on Saturday night. And he said Logs that everybody else
- 50:36Speaker 1: is not listed here, get ready to get some reps in.
- 50:40Speaker 1: That's ah, it's exciting because about this time in camp
- 50:44Speaker 1: you're just chomping at the bit that finally face somebody else.
- 50:47Speaker 1: You mean, you're tired, you're tired of again going against
- 50:50Speaker 1: the same old guys, and it feels to get it
- 50:52Speaker 1: gets a little monotonous, and you've got to kind of
- 50:54Speaker 1: fight through camp. But man, when you get the first
- 50:56Speaker 1: preseason game, it's kind of like a breath of fresh air.
- 50:59Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, now it's it's time, it's showtime. Let's go.
- 51:02Speaker 1: They've had some receivers kind of in and out the
- 51:04Speaker 1: last week or so. They had to sign some guys.
- 51:07Speaker 1: So that was at four or five days ago, so
- 51:10Speaker 1: they've had they've got a lot of receivers on the
- 51:11Speaker 1: roster right now and they're going to get get a
- 51:14Speaker 1: lot of reps. Let's talk defense down Logs, and you
- 51:17Speaker 1: know we were we were going before the break, going
- 51:19Speaker 1: through the depth chart of there's three different positions with
- 51:23Speaker 1: co starters going into preseason week one, and this is
- 51:27Speaker 1: when you mentioned a while back, Joe Schobert and Damien
- 51:29Speaker 1: Wilson are listed as the starting MIC linebackers and and look,
- 51:33Speaker 1: I think both of these guys are very capable. I
- 51:36Speaker 1: think both of them are very capable at playing on
- 51:38Speaker 1: first and second down. I think there might be a
- 51:40Speaker 1: little bit of a slight edge to Joe Schobert once
- 51:43Speaker 1: you get the third down. I think he has a
- 51:46Speaker 1: little bit more speed. But look, Joe Cholbert has been
- 51:48Speaker 1: a tackling machine for a long time. And Damien Wilson
- 51:51Speaker 1: is physical, I mean physical, He's got he's bigger, he's
- 51:54Speaker 1: more physical, and he has the scheme probably already imprinted
- 51:59Speaker 1: in his brain because he's he's been in it before.
- 52:02Speaker 1: So it's a it's a good it's a good. You know,
- 52:04Speaker 1: the more you have competition, just for example, the left
- 52:08Speaker 1: tackle position with Cam Robinson and walk a little competition
- 52:12Speaker 1: is good, man. And and the more you have it,
- 52:14Speaker 1: the better off it's gonna be. And I know there's
- 52:17Speaker 1: a couple of other positions at cornerback, there's a couple
- 52:20Speaker 1: of co starters in Sidney Jones, who is a veteran
- 52:22Speaker 1: guy coming back from an injury. And then the second
- 52:25Speaker 1: round pick, Tyson Campbell, who uh he should be the
- 52:29Speaker 1: Marvel superhero called the Shadow because the guy can run
- 52:31Speaker 1: and he's right in the hip pocket of wide receivers
- 52:33Speaker 1: playing man. I mean, he's that good shadow he I mean, seriously,
- 52:37Speaker 1: that would be a cool name for him. Is that copyrighted?
- 52:40Speaker 1: I don't think so, but we should rush out and
- 52:42Speaker 1: do it. I think if we could do that online
- 52:44Speaker 1: right now, but seriously, I think I would. I had
- 52:47Speaker 1: to give him. I called him the Shadow because I
- 52:49Speaker 1: mean when I watched his college film, I mean he
- 52:51Speaker 1: was always right there. And when you watch him even
- 52:54Speaker 1: out there now against top higher end talent than what
- 52:58Speaker 1: he faced in college, he's doing so of the same
- 53:00Speaker 1: exact things that you watched him do in college, and
- 53:04Speaker 1: and he has elite speed. And the guys that can
- 53:08Speaker 1: stay with somebody, like when I said, when I call
- 53:10Speaker 1: him Shadow, the guys that can't do that are the
- 53:13Speaker 1: ones that don't have elite speed because they're always trying
- 53:16Speaker 1: to make up for the lack of speed by maybe
- 53:19Speaker 1: playing them a little bit more off the guys that
- 53:22Speaker 1: truly have elite speed. They're not worried about somebody running
- 53:25Speaker 1: by and because they know they've got the speed to
- 53:27Speaker 1: be able to make up and catch them. And that's
- 53:29Speaker 1: what this young man, Tyson Campbell has. He's a good one.
- 53:32Speaker 1: And now on the back end of that, doesn't have
- 53:34Speaker 1: ball skills that there's a little bit of weakness. That's
- 53:36Speaker 1: the one area that he's got to work on. I say,
- 53:40Speaker 1: doesn't have ball skills ability to knock it down, but
- 53:43Speaker 1: in some cases he's in position to where make a
- 53:46Speaker 1: play on the ball and intercepted, which is what Like
- 53:49Speaker 1: Andre Cisco, he's one of the best at it. He's
- 53:52Speaker 1: fantastic at it up at Syracuse So And the other
- 53:55Speaker 1: position on the back end of the defense of free safety,
- 53:57Speaker 1: Rashon Jenkins is the starter at least on the first
- 53:59Speaker 1: step strong safety. There are four co starters, Josh Jones
- 54:04Speaker 1: or Jared Wilson, or Rudy Ford or Andre Cisco. And
- 54:09Speaker 1: that's a good battle. I mean, Jared Wilson has been
- 54:11Speaker 1: the starter here for a number of years. Josh Jones
- 54:14Speaker 1: has been a has a very physical element to his game,
- 54:19Speaker 1: is a little bit of a liability I think and
- 54:21Speaker 1: coverage sometimes, but if you're gonna play him in the box,
- 54:24Speaker 1: he might have a little bit of an advantage. And
- 54:27Speaker 1: Rudy Ford's a physical guy. Uh. Cisco Is I think
- 54:31Speaker 1: is eventually the heir apparent just because of his ball skills.
- 54:35Speaker 1: If he doesn't win it out right. Well, but you
- 54:38Speaker 1: remember now he's coming back from believing a c L.
- 54:40Speaker 1: That's pretty significant injury that he had. So what he's
- 54:43Speaker 1: been out there every day as far as he has
- 54:46Speaker 1: been in here, and he and you know a lot
- 54:47Speaker 1: of guys that you see come back and I've had
- 54:49Speaker 1: an a c L and and uh, and it's not
- 54:52Speaker 1: easy in there are moments where you just don't feel normal.
- 54:55Speaker 1: But when you watch him, you don't see any signs
- 54:59Speaker 1: of him favoring that knee. So that's really good for
- 55:02Speaker 1: the Jaguars from that standpoint, great news for sure. I'm
- 55:05Speaker 1: curious on a Saturday night, it's our first chance to
- 55:08Speaker 1: see Urban Meyer and the coaching staff in a live
- 55:11Speaker 1: game situation. We always talk about the players and the
- 55:14Speaker 1: way they do it between the white lines on the field,
- 55:16Speaker 1: but the communication between coaches I think will be key.
- 55:20Speaker 1: And Urban Meyers said today that Darryl Bevil will be
- 55:24Speaker 1: in the booth this year. The offensive coordinator Schottenheimer will
- 55:27Speaker 1: be on the field and he will communicate with the
- 55:30Speaker 1: quarterback in the headset. Urban Meyer will be on the
- 55:33Speaker 1: field obviously as well as part of that communication process.
- 55:37Speaker 1: But having a veteran NFL coaching staff around the quarterback
- 55:42Speaker 1: and around the offense was important for Urban logs to
- 55:46Speaker 1: to really try to figure out how to handle a
- 55:48Speaker 1: quarterback and how to handle some in game communication and
- 55:51Speaker 1: two minute drills and and things like that that are
- 55:53Speaker 1: just different in the NFL than they are back in college.
- 55:55Speaker 1: I think this might this might have been one of
- 56:00Speaker 1: the great strength of urban Meyer was putting the offensive
- 56:04Speaker 1: staff together. When I'm talking about is the tandem of
- 56:06Speaker 1: Bevil and Schottenheimer. If you didn't have two guys like that,
- 56:13Speaker 1: then you'd want to make sure that you had the
- 56:15Speaker 1: strongest voice on the sideline with your quarterback. So, in
- 56:19Speaker 1: other words, if you didn't have Schottenheimer, Bevil would probably
- 56:22Speaker 1: stay on the sideline because you've got to have somebody
- 56:24Speaker 1: that can talk to the young quarterback. But with Schottenheimer
- 56:28Speaker 1: that gives you the luxury of Okay, now we have
- 56:32Speaker 1: two people that can talk to the quarterback one of them.
- 56:35Speaker 1: And I'm sure that there's some type of an arrangement
- 56:38Speaker 1: that they have worked out, because you don't want to
- 56:40Speaker 1: get two guys always in one in each ear to
- 56:42Speaker 1: where it just becomes where Trevor Lawrence is sitting there going,
- 56:45Speaker 1: oh my gosh, okay, came to both of you, stopped talking,
- 56:47Speaker 1: just let me hear one and so. But when you
- 56:49Speaker 1: watch him practice, Schottenheimer is the one who does a
- 56:53Speaker 1: lot of the talking directly with Trevor Lawrence and with
- 56:56Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and bevil and make sure that he doesn't
- 57:00Speaker 1: over impose himself. So and I like having coordinators in
- 57:03Speaker 1: the booth. I think it detaches from the emotion of
- 57:07Speaker 1: the game and allows them to be a strategic play
- 57:10Speaker 1: caller and very calm, very calm, out of the fray.
- 57:15Speaker 1: But then some coaches like to be in the fray
- 57:18Speaker 1: because they feel like they have to feel their team,
- 57:21Speaker 1: feel their players, find out where they're at so that
- 57:24Speaker 1: they have an understanding of what they want to do.
- 57:26Speaker 1: But that's the responsibility also of the coaches on the field.
- 57:29Speaker 1: But overall, this is all new for this coaching staff
- 57:33Speaker 1: and urban Meyer. So this is not only preseason for
- 57:37Speaker 1: the players from a lot of standpoints, but this is
- 57:39Speaker 1: also the preseason for a coaching staff that has a
- 57:43Speaker 1: very nice blend of college and pro experience. Coaches. Hey, Urban,
- 57:47Speaker 1: you need to challenge this call. He's never had that
- 57:50Speaker 1: in his headset before. No, he's never had, you know,
- 57:52Speaker 1: And look, we have this many challenges left. Urban's no,
- 57:55Speaker 1: he's a smart guy, you know. And and smart guys
- 57:58Speaker 1: figure things out. And if they can't figure something out,
- 58:02Speaker 1: then they're gonna ask for help. And Urban is able
- 58:06Speaker 1: to call on lots of different people for help, now, okay.
- 58:09Speaker 1: And perfect example is Jimmy Johnson was in the house.
- 58:12Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Jimmy Johnson. Congratulations to him. He was
- 58:16Speaker 1: around this week. And that's what you do. I mean,
- 58:18Speaker 1: if you don't know, then you ask questions so that
- 58:21Speaker 1: you do know. One other person in the house this
- 58:24Speaker 1: week was somebody that had coacher vern Meyer met when
- 58:27Speaker 1: he toured the out East neighborhood earlier this year. Royce
- 58:30Speaker 1: fed was his name, and he regularly cooks for the
- 58:34Speaker 1: community on a small grill and for folks that are
- 58:37Speaker 1: around in that neighborhood that it's just above the stadium.
- 58:40Speaker 1: Here above the Arlington Expressway. That's kind of the out
- 58:42Speaker 1: east neighborhood there. Well, Coach Wyron Avoided invited him to
- 58:46Speaker 1: practice the other day and then coach meyron On behalf
- 58:49Speaker 1: of shod Conne. The organization gave Royce a new grill.
- 58:53Speaker 1: And not just a grill, this is a monster, smoker logs.
- 58:56Speaker 1: This thing was unbelievable. Uh, first of all, it was
- 59:00Speaker 1: meeting Roys. I actually got to to drive the side
- 59:04Speaker 1: by side a t V, U, TV, whatever you want
- 59:08Speaker 1: to call, and pull the grill out to them. They couldn't.
- 59:12Speaker 1: They couldn't find a driver. The guy that was going
- 59:14Speaker 1: to drive it. If anybody has experienced, they're looking around
- 59:18Speaker 1: and going, okay, wait, lock Himan on to know how
- 59:20Speaker 1: to drive a side by side either red neck. So
- 59:22Speaker 1: they grabbed me and I hop on it and we
- 59:24Speaker 1: drive it out there and and uh and it was awesome.
- 59:28Speaker 1: It was awesome to see the reaction. What a cool
- 59:31Speaker 1: gesture that Urban Meyer and the organization had. And this
- 59:34Speaker 1: is one heck of a cooker. Let's come back in
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