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Reverse Digestion: Xbox Series X & Wonder Woman 1984 · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things nerdy I love it when I'm right it
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  happens a lot sometimes it takes me a while to find out I'm right you'll often
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  claim you're right even if you're not so you're happy a lot sometimes Luke's
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  right but he's the last to know yes yeah oh sometimes you find out later that he
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  was right all along so remember final
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  Final Fantasy 7 oh Christ yeah remember they first announced it and I went yep
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  it's come to Xbox and then there was the big thing no it's not y PlayStation
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  exclusive the German Xbox account posted by accident or something by accident
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  that know went no sorry that's a mistake not real well the actual box art from
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  has come out and it is a PlayStation exclusive oh until
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  2021 oh okay it's a timed exclusive it's a long Tim exclusive but it actually may
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  work out better for Xbox users than PlayStation oh cuz we'll get more of it
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  I guess at that point right yeah yeah so instead of getting like the episodes we
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  might get like the whole game in one go which is a much better way to play it I
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  doubt it they're going to be like drip feeding that for years aren't they well
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  yeah I think they well it's taken them like three years to do the first 10
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  minutes at a game or something yeah I mean I did read that Final Fantasy 7
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  remake part two has started development and I just could think that's the
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  [ __ ] worst title for anything
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  honestly Final Fantasy 7 remake part two
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  come on come on I'm actually interested in this game are they going to have the
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  part where you dress up as a woman yeah I wonder about
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  that play Final Fantasy games but well Tri and then he tries to rape you
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  yeah yeah that was a weird sequence well it it was it wasn't a weird sequence
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  when you were a little block character but I feel like now that they're looking
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  more realistic it's it's going to be very strange like it it was weird but it
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  was kind of like an well hold on when did Final Fantasy come out you w a
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  little block character back then yeah you were yeah you were how old is this
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  game it was 97 I think it's a play they were up to seven already by then
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  yeah yeah it like it was like an original PlayStation game clearly it
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  wasn't the Final Fantasy then not even close 4 five and six were on the Super
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  Nintendo so yeah and actually it's all quite confusing cuz number one is number
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  three and three is number four it's yeah you got to really go into it get an
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  understanding we didn't get the first three in the west I guess so they just
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  started at one with three or something weird like that that's why so when Final
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  Fantasy 3 was released here it was just called Final Fantasy I think that might
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  have been the case I think four was Final Fantasy
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  3 you know what it doesn't matter it doesn't although Final Fantasy 3 is a
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  great game they all like independent games anyway they don't have anything to
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  do with each other if it's a direct sequel it'll be Final Fantasy 7 2 or
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  something like that because well there's Final Fantasy 10 Final Fantasy 10 2 then
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  there's Final Fantasy 13 Final Fantasy 13 2 Final Fantasy 13 Lightning's return
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  or something what happened to 12 uh 12 was an online game oh or am I
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  or am I thinking no 11's online 12 was a game I I I honestly don't know it's that
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  confusing I I don't play the online on well well look I enjoyed seven quite a
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  lot when I was a teenager so well i' I've played through half of it just
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  recently when they re-released it on the Xbox yeah with the was It upgraded at
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  all or is it just as it was um it's sort of a port of uh I think the PC version
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  of it but it does have like times three speed and stuff so you can grind it a
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  bit faster oh yeah yeah so just to recap here just to recap gentlemen cuz I have
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  not played this game just to be clear there's a scene in this where the task
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  is to seduce another character so you as a man dress up as a woman and then he
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  rapes you just he he tries to how does he try to he pins
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  you down no it's more it's play for gags like he he like leaps on the bed after
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  you tries to grab you and like it's of like he's jumping around sort of looking
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  at you like El when bug bunny dresses up like a lady yeah it's it's played for
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  for Laughs yeah I guess that stuff used to be funny probably wouldn't be funny now
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  also makes a comeback I'm pretty sure he's a pimp isn't he or am I I I think
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  no yeah it's sort of you he is a pimp but I think he likes to test the Wares
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  the [ __ ] is this game like what what what is the story of Final Fantasy Final
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  Fantasy so this that that part of the game is actually quite weird because
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  it's very different to the rest of the game actually can I can I can I say this
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  is what this is what I think the plot is and this is like what 20 years later
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  right this is what I think the plot of that is yeahh so you start the game in
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  midgar which is a city up on a big disc above the like the world it's like a
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  wealthy City and because of the stuff that happens Cloud uh falls off the disc
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  basically and ends up in the UND person yeah uh and then sort of and then you
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  end up in the unders City and then this for some reason you're down there with
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  AIS and yes Aris Barrett oh Barrett's with you too right and you have to dress
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  up as women because this guy who's a pimp runs the elevator back up to the
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  the the the city no okay no not at all
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  so so there there is big guy is the city you do fall down into a church after
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  attemp blowing up one of the reactors chur a Christian Church uh don't know
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  just some church okay probably not in
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  that someone gets kidnapped I think it's
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  it's not AIS it's the other girl oh Tifa
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  Tif Tia gets kidnapped and taken away by the brothel owner yeah and you dress as
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  a woman to infiltrate to get her back now what I actually think happened cuz
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  this game is very different a bit more happens there and I think it's because
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  it's earlier in the game they spent more time on it this is not what I thought it
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  was do you know I like how this start this conversation started because we
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  were kind of wondering whether they would have you dress up as a woman for
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  laughs but actually the whole plot is played for laughs and it's about this
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  guy who [ __ ] kidnaps a female friend of yours to force her to be a prostitute
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  I wonder if that hilarious sequence is going to be in this game
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  wow it really is terrible wasn't it I'll be honest I wasn't expecting quite so
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  much sex consensual or otherwise I don't think there's any to be honest there's
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  none no it's like I said it's all played for Laughs okay yep sure sounds great
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  can't wait to play it we have to wait 2021 it's a PlayStation exclusive so
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  you're going to have to wait a little bit oh never never ever played yeah
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  maybe you've been playing a game that I also played a bit of I think
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  and I know that Luc has played but we didn't really discuss this last week
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  Jedi fall in order H yep you finished it Luke I assume oh yeah I I I like the
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  game I still need to go back and just complete it 100% though okay I uh I
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  played a little bit I played a air H
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  it's all right it's all right I yeah yeah like I'm not going out saying it's
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  my game of the year or anything but I enjoyed it everybody's positive comments
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  made me like oh yeah I jumped in and I bought it I thought this will be fun and
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  then I actually was trying to figure out if I could get a refund on it at
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  first really yeah cuz I was like ah I I
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  don't want to play this as desperately as I thought I did I I did try and give
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  you advice to wait till it's on sale yeah yeah sure no whatever listens to my
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  advice I think one day I will be home alone and I'll have nothing else to play
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  would have played everything and I'll be in a Star Wars mood for some reason sure
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  and I'll put it on and I'll play it overnight and I'll be happy that I did
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  but until that day comes I'm probably not going to put this back on it's the
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  best Star Wars game we've had in a very long time that's not saying a lot the bar is
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  not very high unfortunately definitely not but the one thing I did really enjoy
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  about this game is for the most part it's there's no Luke Skywalker Orlando
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  or anything thrown in there to trying oh look at St Wars it is a story on its own
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  true well so far and I think yeah for the most part yeah and I think that's
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  what oban's in it I saw Obi-Wan didn't I I don't I don't remember Obi-Wan being
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  in it I'm not like in it in it unless I'm thinking of what the [ __ ] was I what
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  he he he there like a message from Obi-Wan or something I don't know maybe
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  no I'm talking like there's no characters there's no it's not in your
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  face like Battlefront 2 cuz when they were said they're going to have a single
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  player story I was looking forward to that and then they just force fed every
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  character they could into it oh look now you're fighting with Princess Leia yeah
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  no just hurry up and give me X-Wing well I just I just I've been playing the
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  outer worlds and I uh I was just like I can't believe I I spent money on ji
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  falling over I'm not even going to play it so I was like I can you get a refund
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  on the Xbox and I'll just buy it later when it is cheaper but no you can in
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  Australia really no anyway it doesn't matter I was just I was just does you
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  gave it more of a try and had a bit of fun I might play it later but the other
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  world is [ __ ] excellent I'm on my second playthrough of that I need more
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  time guys I need more time to play that it's on my list but
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  it's time to play games it's just not coming quick and easy although Luke and
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  I did convince each other that it was both okay for us to buy ancestors the
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  humankind Odyssey oh God so I that was a waste of money I I had been play it this
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  week L did you I I played it for a few
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  hours wow Luke gave up on a game after a few hours must be I played it for maybe
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  one hour Luke but I'm going to go back into it really see what else is going on
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  okay this is a game normally you complain about tutorials and S of like
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  stop holding my hand let just let me please tell me what to do I I don't what
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  to do with this game tell me how to play the game like it goes build a bed
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  doesn't tell you how to build a bed or anything like that bu it you got to find
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  a mattress and uh pop on down to Fantastic Furniture the frame up to a mission
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  where I have to go investigate a meteor a that sit down no idea where it is no
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  idea how to get there anytime I try and wander out of this space it goes scary go back
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  yeah if you if you start to wander into places you haven't been before you just
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  start having [ __ ] nightmares until you go back huh because you're a chimp
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  essentially and you don't know anything and so nothing makes sense and you don't
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  know where you are and there's no such thing as a map you just know what you
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  know and what you don't know is scary it's really interesting but [ __ ] me it
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  asks I like the idea of it but I just wish it had have told me more how to
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  play the game for I'm going to I'm going to go into a little bit more and see if
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  I can get hooked it's a kind of thing that I feel I could get hooked on if if
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  it sinks its claws into me so we'll see so do I I actually think it could be a
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  game that I could get lost in but I don't know what I'm doing
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  and like cuz there's the whole part where you sort of you go out you learn
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  you unlock things and then you meant to skip Generations so you have all your
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  babies in your area grow up and then they take on the new abilities that you
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  sort of you've learned and but I think I did that too
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  early and it is interesting for sure did
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  too early and everyone sort of died and I was sort of yeah it was quite hard I'm
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  not even closely up had two baby Apes the the baby apes are pretty cute
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  though yeah they are adorable so you play as as a you know like an ape and
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  then you you're a human ancestor all of the Apes you can like switch
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  between all right okay and then you can you can populate generations and then
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  you get abilities as you evolve is that what you're
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  saying yeah yeah it's basically you pass down kind of genetic knowledge yeah
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  right so the more you learn the more your Offspring will know that's [ __ ]
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  interesting yeah but also I'm not sure how how that works as a game so I guess
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  I uh it doesn't really mean struggling I can see why you thought that would be
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  fun uh and now I'm thinking well that could be fun but then also you say it's
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  not fun so but also like imagine like I
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  mean look we all complain when games are on Rails right and there's like a set
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  path for you to go there's no path here it is dense jungle there's nothing and
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  you don't know where to go or where you've been it just doesn't it just
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  sounds like life Dan it's exactly like life if you jle outside and I don't know
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  where to go so I'm just going to stay here and talk to you guys right yeah so
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  yeah I'll give that on try cuz the achievements I think once I work out how to play it the
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  achievements they actually quite easy just they're all about just yeah you say
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  that let's uh let's put a let's put a tab in this little segment right now and
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  come back to this i i
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  l up mate if you're going to just like just [ __ ] achievements for a little
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  while I don't think this is the game to do it in did you have to send them a tur
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  email what happened with your with your gamer score oh my gamer score so I just
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  let it go for ages and ages and ages and went I never let it go get away with it
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  I went on to the forums and I went hey I'm having this issue as well I know it
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  was wa but still having it um and then an hour later it was fixed oh all right
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  squeaky so yeah and it wasn't like it was a I was mean or anything I'm just
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  hey I'm having this issu as well imagine you being mean on the [ __ ] forums to
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  people fix you [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] I I gave some more information I pointed out
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  the fact that um I unlocked some Xbox 360 Achievements that weren't showing
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  whereas when I locked Xbox On's they were still showing so I was trying to
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  point out that hey maybe the issue are you active on the Xbox forums generally
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  speak no I used to be years ago but no not so much I am still one of the beta
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  testers and stuff so I'm basically what I'm fishing for is to find out where you
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  hang out on the internet so that I can I can take a PE at what you get up to on
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  the internet through the week um it's
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  true.com yeah that's it yeah that that's
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  really it or or xboxachievements.com Xbox achievement.com true achievements
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  is the better one I get I pay money for that site really
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  yeah I actually became a pro member and I I pay them money every year every year
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  how how much is it uh like 20 bucks a
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  year oh that's all right yeah oh it depends because they don't do it in
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  Australian dollars so I sort of fish around to work out which currency is
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  cheaper but it all converts back to you paying in Australian dollars right well
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  no I work at the the conversion rate
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  okay so they'll have like Dan was like all right dropping it
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  yeah doesn't matter it makes sense to me I don't have a dog in this
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  race all
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  right uh yeah P by Xbox Live friends I'll send these all invites look
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  speaking of Xbox is there any Xbox news this week
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  M there is some very big
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  news big and black news big black news.com talk us through it talk us
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  through it do we have a big black news jingle I'm sure we probably have
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  something along those lines that we shouldn't use yes oh at the game awards
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  they finally showed off what the new Xbox is going to look like yes some
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  people are hating on it I am loving it I I think it looks nice but it's going to
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  take up more room on my shelf because it's upright rather
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  than also lay flat oh it can okay it can
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  yes it kind of looks like a a little
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  PC yeah it does it looks an awful lot
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  like that and pretty much because that's pretty much what they're heading to
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  these days well yeah but PCS but with very specific Hardware in them so that
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  they can kind of don't have to worry about supporting 500 different video
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  cards I I guess which is why I still that's why I like console gaming there's
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  no I have to put this in and then fiddle around with patches or stuff because it
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  may not work which I'm having issues with rage to at the moment oh yeah Rage
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  2 is on the PC now I try playing with my laptop and my laptop just goes no not
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  playing it but then I jump on and I play Halo or something else and it's fine
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  yeah and so I'm going to have to go and look and try and find patches that's
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  what console you just put it in and you play the game so much easier yeah no I'm
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  definitely uh just I'm just a console gamer at this point so when is this
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  coming out do we know holiday 2020 right what is holiday Christmas so and yeah
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  it'll be Christmas so they haven't even put it up for pre-order yet I will be
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  pre-ordering cuz I need this x series one series X yeah I might do the same
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  thing so oh so is this like a special edition one series X
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  well or is this the name of the thing I thought it was called This is the Xbox
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  series X because they can't this the Xbox [ __ ] normal name yeah this is
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  Xbox series X but there's still the rumors it's going to be a cheaper
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  version of it so this will be like the Xbox series Y and there will be the Xbox
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  series X the rumors it's there's the Anaconda which is the X series X and
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  then there's the lock heart one the lock one which pretty much if you compare it
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  to today it's the Xbox One S discs version is that what they're calling
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  them no no that's the name going to say the [ __ ] are they doing all right never
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  mind I don't know they they come out with good names like Scorpio I was
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  looking for to get a Scorpio we've gone no it's actually Xbox One X but you can
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  get the Scorpio Edition but Xbox Xbox
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  360 Xbox One Xbox One X Ser X like I
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  mean whatever like [ __ ] me yeah compared to PlayStation and all because
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  PlayStation was one number ahead of them and playst three PlayStation 4 and
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  coming soon PlayStation wait for it five makes sense the Phil Spencer did come
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  out and say something about this though they do these names because it is sort
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  of a bit different but they know at the end of the day people are just going to
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  say Xbox yeah it's true it's true it doesn't matter that so just call it Xbox
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  2020 what version do you have 2020 yeah just call it Xbox and then I guess
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  that'll be confusing for parents well it already is confusing for parents isn't
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  it like if you're a kid and you're like I want the Xbox series X and you're like
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  M's like what the [ __ ] is that where is here like PlayStation's
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  always going to be like PS4 PS4 PS5 do you want a PlayStation 4 no I want a
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  PlayStation 5 tick got it y easy look you say you can use this on its side and
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  you can but it's clearly sideways because the [ __ ] Xbox logo is side
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  sideways when you put it on its side going to bug the [ __ ] out of me look
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  side maybe you could just pick that off and put it back on pick it off pretty I
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  actually like it being I like it being upright yeah think yeah I mean I I do
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  too it's just going to take it's just going to take up some space yeah this
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  one is actually actually will fit on the on the stand that I have everything on
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  because the current one um you're not you know you're not supposed to put the
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  Xbox One vertically you're not supposed to have it vertical and it doesn't fit
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  horizontally in the stand that I have it in because it would block the vents on
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  the side so it actually has to sit on the top this one will fit nicely not
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  anyone gives a [ __ ] about my [ __ ] TV stand but I give a [ __ ] Matt we give a
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  [ __ ] here this a safe space the second this is I I think we should all just
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  pre-order this is this going to be backwards compatible with Xbox One games
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  if it is if it is a pre-order as well you know what I mean your controllers
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  will even work on it wow okay you don't have do contr
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  there's rumors that it may not okay but that that's all rumors but it'll work
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  with all the controls and accessories you have it's they're designing it to
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  just be day one you can pick it up use it with everything you've got including
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  all of your old games I love this editorial um that the um the author of
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  this Verge article writes the Xbox series X design is good for the same
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  reasons the Tesla cybertruck design is good I'm not entirely sure what he means
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  by that I think it just means they both look cool
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  yeah that doesn't make sense no yeah I mean I assume it's going to be
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  about $1,000 so yeah that well they're talking people are talking about 600 us oh
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  that's fine yeah that's fine um looking forward to being able to play some 4K [ __ ] now
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  that I've got my 4K TV I can actually watch the trailer for this in 4k so
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  that's nice I'm GNA have to buy two of these oh L Jenna's gonna want one as
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  well so I will have to buy two as well well either that or you know what my TV
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  in here where my Xbox is is not 4K but then I assume this is going to have
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  additional advantages it's not just going to show the same [ __ ] in 4k this
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  is going to actually be better so MH they they're talking about not having
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  loading screens what well I'm I'm I'm into that so
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  yeah wow but yeah I will be getting two as well cuz I need one in the computer
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  room and one in the loue room Matt where are yours one in the
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  land room one where uh here in my in my office oh in your little study yeah yeah my
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  bedroom your bedroom's the basement Luke yeah what are you talking about your
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  bedroom's Downs you're going to need one in the Oh Oh no you're going to bring
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  yours if you move in aren you yeah there both yours oh I'll move into the attic
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  and I'll bring mine and and then we'll have four um I I took a class this week
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  as part of my degree um where I learned some some things about horror movies I
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  never never knew before um did you know that when the monster right is in the
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  Attic it's a psychological monster and when when the monster like it's going to
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  do psychological damage and when the monster is in the basement it's going to
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  do you bodily damage right I have to ask is that an
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  actual thing something that people have read into it don't know well I I had to
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  listen to an entire [ __ ] lecture on how in
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  Candyman um the the character crawls into candyman's ass and up his digestive
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  tract and out his mouth um which I mean to be fair there is a scene where she
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  comes out of a hole in a wall and there's a there's a graffiti yeah of
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  Candyman and his mouth is the hole but uh what does the direct have any input on
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  this what does it represent I guess or is it just represents her crawling up
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  and out of up his ass and out of his mouth is that all it represents is there
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  more that reverse digestion
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  uh what does that mean though I'm not entirely sure I'm convinced that people
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  just reads makes [ __ ] up to sound more intelligent if it was if it was a David
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  Lynch film and not just you know Candyman which I love Candyman oh me too
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  yeah if David Lynch I'd be like you know what he probably did think that he yeah
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  exactly there's some people that definitely would have yeah yeah yeah and
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  then and then he also filmed someone sweeping the floor for 20 minutes and uh
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  put that in the in the [ __ ] TV show too and look maybe he did maybe the
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  director intended this I don't know we also studied a film I can't remember
• 25:49
  which one but it was a queer film and in the end um the guy came out and then a
• 25:53
  rainbow appears in the sky behind him and like that's quite a poignant and
• 25:57
  poetic moment in the film but you can't tell me they planned that you can't tell
• 26:01
  me that they planned for a rainbow to come out in the sky behind him at that
• 26:05
  exact moment you can't do it but I got my first assignment back um this week
• 26:09
  did okay did okay and um but the comment was um a lot of facts which sometimes
• 26:16
  get in the way of your interpretation which I find hilarious so don't worry about crap on
• 26:23
  yeah we don't we don't care what the director intended we want to know what
• 26:27
  you think he might have intended but didn't wow so if you just write that you can't
• 26:34
  fail I guess not a lot of get in the way of
• 26:39
  interpretation I mean I kind of get it but yeah yeah yeah yeah it's not Arty
• 26:45
  enough is what they yeah not Arty enough read into it more I know people do this
• 26:51
  with Star Wars a lot like there are people not even I can't even reproduce
• 26:57
  one of these things but people go into into you like that Star Wars ring Theory
• 27:00
  and all that kind of stuff no George Lucas was not thinking about that [ __ ]
• 27:04
  yeah no I promise you yeah it's when people talk about numerology in films no
• 27:09
  no nope Star Wars is very political especially the prequels but it's not
• 27:15
  some [ __ ] like existential ay thing he was not I don't think well I don't
• 27:21
  think George Lucas was writing on that level with in Star Wars also Candyman
• 27:26
  probably not probably not it's candyman candyman is a very political movie as
• 27:31
  well about racism from a racial point of view definitely yeah and it's probably
• 27:36
  not any weirder than that as far as reverse digestion reverse
• 27:42
  digestion is reverse digestion in the name of this podcast I think it might
• 27:48
  be yeah look I mean George Lucas now says that um Star Wars the original Star
• 27:54
  Wars was a metaphor for the Vietnam War
• 27:58
  and the rebels are the Viet Kong and the Empire is America and I don't even
• 28:04
  believe that maybe now in hindsight he's like retrofitted that on but I I don't
• 28:10
  believe I believe back in the day he was like who will the bad guys be yes Darth
• 28:15
  Vader he was watching Flash Gordon and he wrote down what Flash Gordon was and
• 28:20
  then he just made it again then he made that then he showed some of his friends
• 28:24
  and Brian dep Palmer was like this could this is a bit [ __ ] it could be better
• 28:27
  and Spiel said I'll give you some ideas and uh then it was was born one thing he
• 28:34
  said in the commentary for American
• 28:37
  Graffiti is he doesn't like runting uh runting movies he's not good at it and
• 28:43
  that's one thing I agree with yeah that's true that's true for the most
• 28:47
  part you know what I just realized just now before we before we started recording cuz
• 28:52
  obviously uh we're thinking about we're thinking about Star Wars this week uh almost
• 28:58
  sorry Craig we're thinking about Star Wars because uh Star Wars Episode 9 is released this
• 29:04
  week excited speak when we next have a show we'll have seen it absolutely will
• 29:10
  and uh you might it Ur to me because I'm not going to be on the show no because
• 29:15
  you weren't going to go and see it you were going to wait I wasn't going to and
• 29:17
  then somebody wanded and purchased tickets for me against like you could
• 29:21
  actually wait good good I was gonna wait uh but I'm glad I'm not having to wait
• 29:26
  now but it just occurred to me that I saw the first Star Wars 35 years ago
• 29:32
  this year huh because I saw it fig that when I was four so I remember the first
• 29:39
  time I think we talked about this first time I saw Star Wars I taped it off the
• 29:42
  TV the night before I didn't want to go to school cuz I started watching it in
• 29:46
  the morning and I got up to the that was a mistake yeah I got up to the you know
• 29:50
  kind I think where they where meet soie one and my mom was like got to go to
• 29:53
  school and I was like [ __ ] off yeah I to know where happened see I started with
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  Return of the Jedi oh did you yeah right that was my
• 30:04
  first cuz remember I'm also younger than you guys oh yeah that's true just thrown
• 30:09
  that in but I remember that still means all three movies were still out by the
• 30:13
  time you watched any of them but that was the one I remember very Vivid though
• 30:17
  advertising a lot cuz it was going to be on television for the first time and I
• 30:21
  remember that ad and I remember wanting to watch it and then my parents
• 30:24
  recording and then me sneaking up and hiding behind my dad chair watching it
• 30:28
  on television I did that with Ghostbusters literally hid and watched
• 30:34
  it cuz I wasn't allowed to stay up and that's what brought on my love of Star
• 30:37
  Wars and then I annoyed my parents for a very long time going I want to see the
• 30:42
  first one oh the one that didn't exist yet yeah and then they they went and
• 30:46
  found oh this is episode four um that's not it and then Li was like can you not
• 30:52
  count yeah what episode one and then yeah and then they your parents called
• 30:57
  George Lucas and that's how the prequels happened yep my son the first one I'm
• 31:03
  sure that annoyed a lot of parents the fact that it was episode one The fact
• 31:08
  yeah the fact that there was like episode four five and six I'm sure there
• 31:10
  were a lot of kids out there like me wan to go I want to see the first ones yeah
• 31:14
  yeah I know because just have been me because I don't understand the uh what
• 31:17
  he was going for cuz kids are stupid well they were the fox told him at the
• 31:22
  time like you're going to confuse everybody and uh he was like I don't
• 31:25
  care and then well they made him take the episode thing off this is his
• 31:28
  version of events anyway they made him take the episode thing off and then he
• 31:31
  put it back later when it was so successful cuz he was like see yeah well
• 31:34
  I think anyway he's Rich he's okay yeah
• 31:38
  um so episode n the last Skywalker Saga
• 31:42
  uh evidently JJ came out this week and
• 31:45
  said uh I'm [ __ ] at writing endings so oh that that's makes me feel great well
• 31:52
  he didn't he didn't he didn't write this did he and someone else wrote it and he
• 31:56
  just directed it so that might be all right yeah okay well his exact quote is this I've
• 32:02
  never been great at endings I don't actually think I'm good at anything but
• 32:06
  I do know how to begin a story ending is a tough one I think isn't this written
• 32:11
  by somebody who was involved with Batman versus Superman or something like that
• 32:15
  oh Christ it might have been actually I feel like that's true but I don't I
• 32:20
  don't remember exactly because it was originally going to be done by Colin
• 32:24
  travo right and then Ken was like [ __ ] off well there was actually there J
• 32:30
  abs and Chris tiero and Derek
• 32:35
  colony and Colin Trevor and yeah I oh great this is one of those ones where
• 32:41
  there's like 30 people oh Justice is Aro
• 32:45
  Batman v Superman J Le Argo was great if he wrote thato was great yeah how do he
• 32:52
  go from Argo to Batman v Superman and you know what's his next project Justice
• 32:57
  League part two to is that I don't think that's
• 33:02
  happening we'll see well Batman vers Superman was supposed to be a big deal
• 33:07
  so I can see why you would go from you know if you you did argue like you want
• 33:12
  to do Batman oh [ __ ] yeah yeah but uh well the other writer Derek Connelly is
• 33:18
  famous for Jurassic world and detective Pikachu
• 33:22
  so oh I really love movies written by like 10 people yes yep well uh speaking
• 33:28
  of Colin Trevor there was a article this week uh Kathleen Kennedy talking about
• 33:33
  why he got dropped from episode 9 and apparently he wouldn't write the movie
• 33:38
  the way she wanted yeah I mean yeah that that's what it boils down to they uh
• 33:44
  they he handed a script in and they were
• 33:45
  like h no that's no no this is the thing
• 33:52
  I still find so confusing that there was not a script and all everything
• 33:57
  storyboarded out when they before they even started the first I agree I think
• 34:01
  that is odd yeah like cuz when they knew they were making a Trilogy you think
• 34:05
  that they would have had the whole story line worked out yeah if they if they
• 34:09
  were so handson with it why did they leave it up to this is like one of the
• 34:12
  clients I have that's like I don't want don't know what I want but you just do
• 34:16
  what you think and I'll tell you that it's not what I want and I'll keep doing
• 34:19
  that until I accidentally stumble on something I do like yeah yeah just
• 34:24
  always confused me that's very easy to confuse
• 34:29
  me well a bunch of uh of people come out this actually the stars of Star Wars
• 34:36
  have been kind of in the news quite a lot and I don't think for the reasons
• 34:40
  Disney would like them to be in the news no definitely not there's there's been
• 34:44
  talk about how they've been uh I guess manufacturing viral news stories like
• 34:51
  this story about the missing script being on eBay and all that kind of stuff
• 34:54
  now everyone's thinking that was a fake story to drum up interest in this film
• 34:58
  that apparently not as many people are interested in as they would like uh and
• 35:02
  then now John boas come out and said
• 35:07
  Last Jedi wasn't real great was it and uh yeah
• 35:11
  he's and not only that they've well he's said a few things this week that have
• 35:16
  got him in trouble and he's had to apologize because uh yeah he said he has
• 35:20
  had to apologize he said he and Mark hell winging about the Last Jedi the
• 35:23
  whole time basically and then yeah which I can complely I believe that from his
• 35:30
  perspective right he his character kind of went nowhere let's be honest so if I if I
• 35:36
  was yeah and looked at the force awakens and what kind of the potential for his
• 35:41
  character like you know like a former Stormtrooper and then he just never went
• 35:45
  anywhere so nothing to do with anything I'd be a little disappointed too well he
• 35:50
  was he was disappointed in fact what he says was force awakens was the beginning
• 35:54
  of something really solid Last Jedi if I'm being honest biit iffy for
• 35:59
  me I mean you know what I think it might have been better if Ryan Johnson was
• 36:03
  doing this one oh for Christ's sake you watched knives out today and now you're
• 36:07
  back on the [ __ ] Ryan Johnson bandwagon hear me out hear me out hear
• 36:12
  me out cuz you look Ryan Johnson was just what Ryan Johnson did was just shut
• 36:18
  down so many stories good at endings progressing them so yeah just have him
• 36:23
  at the end [ __ ] hell he's right though JJ is good at setting a lot of
• 36:28
  stuff he doesn't know what to do with him so he easily easily say he used to
• 36:31
  be a stormtrooper Max sit's got something going on as well what's the
• 36:35
  [ __ ] P for this girl don't who's
• 36:39
  snoke Ryan Johnson is very good at it and being like Johnson everybody dies
• 36:45
  and now there's a slow Chase well Y and because even JJ Abrams this week said H
• 36:51
  I can't remember how he worded it he was he was pretty careful he was throwing
• 36:54
  shade at the Last Jedi like kind of everybody's had bit of a a go at at the
• 36:59
  last J this week and uh even I saw Elijah Wood on um Twitter saying that um
• 37:05
  it's a bad look for the current crop of Star Wars people to be like even subtly
• 37:12
  complaining about the previous film and then um and then he was getting yell
• 37:16
  that too because they were like oh the the black and female actors aren't
• 37:19
  allowed to complain about a film that they were in that they felt didn't live
• 37:23
  up to their and it was like no I'm serious and it was like [ __ ] me all
• 37:28
  right this is the world we live in wow well John boa didn't stop there um
• 37:34
  because someone asked him about the kind of the the backlash and the The Bullying
• 37:39
  from fans who didn't like the movie um and he said uh look you've just got to
• 37:43
  suck it up I mean anyone who gets like upset by that is just just a weak person
• 37:48
  and so everyone in the Kelly Marie trans [ __ ] Camp got online and were like
• 37:53
  the [ __ ] did you just say yeah which he was talking about himself of he said
• 37:59
  yeah he was he meant he felt weak like I I mean yeah I don't think he was
• 38:06
  actually having a go at anyone I don't think he was either no and I think yeah
• 38:10
  they've just Twisted but I think he should what they went through was
• 38:13
  [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah absolutely but he copped it on the chin and Kelly
• 38:17
  marray Tran like deleted herself from the internet like she was so upset um
• 38:24
  she I think she was copying it a lot more she was but that's what I think he should have
• 38:29
  kept in mind when somebody to him what about this online bullying and he was
• 38:33
  just like suck it up princess but yeah I could not imagine
• 38:39
  logging on every day just having everyone saying kill yourself well see I
• 38:43
  I feel like yeah eventually you just log on exactly I would just ignore it but uh
• 38:49
  because [ __ ] you because I'm in Star Wars so who gives a [ __ ] but uh yeah
• 38:53
  that would have been great if she had owned that if she' just written I'm in
• 38:56
  Star Wars what do you do for a living comment below
• 39:02
  yeah so I guess you know what actually should I'm going to be the one that's
• 39:07
  going to rape and murder you that would be their response that would no that's
• 39:11
  what Luke would say to me if I was in Jesus Christ but unfortunately like even if
• 39:17
  she didn't try to play it that would be the response she would be getting from
• 39:21
  Luke yeah I swear that's what I would be saying which I just [ __ ] tries to
• 39:28
  take it on the chin mate I'll give her something on the chin that she can take
• 39:32
  it was one of the things that I think druma said when he referred back like he
• 39:35
  still stands by what he wrote in a Twitter last when it was going through
• 39:40
  kill yourself Kelly you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] character you may not like you may
• 39:44
  not like the movie the characters but the actors don't really have much of a say over
• 39:49
  that absolutely [ __ ] stupid to harass an actor if you should be telling anyone
• 39:55
  to kill himself we should be all online telling Ryan Johnson kill himself he did
• 39:59
  that too leave him alone yeah I agree but don't let him make any more movies
• 40:05
  well apparently Knives Out is good so that's good actually I didn't mind it I
• 40:08
  couldn't cuz I didn't know it was him until the end a glowing by Ryan Johnson oh I
• 40:14
  didn't want to kill myself afterwards so yeah that's another quote for the
• 40:19
  poster didn't mind it I feel like a lot of it had been cut out though oh really
• 40:25
  why do you say that I there was just characters in it that I thought go
• 40:29
  anywhere they I have a feeling that they their characters were probably more
• 40:33
  expanded upon but yeah Ryan Johnson mate they probably
• 40:38
  weren't he was just subverting your expectations of what character would be
• 40:43
  he thought it was going to be a decent film and it wasn't subverted
• 40:51
  subverted uh we laugh has disy told him he's not getting his Trilogy yet I don't
• 40:55
  think so but I'd be very surprised if he does at this point they're being so
• 41:01
  careful hand it over to me I mean they made that in documentary that was just
• 41:06
  two hours of Kathleen Kennedy sucking his dick and like just talking about how
• 41:13
  he's the greatest thing to ever happen to Star Wars and then this trash comes
• 41:17
  out and then she's just never mentioned his name since and he's like yeah she
• 41:22
  told me I was getting she told me I was getting a tril that was when your dick
• 41:25
  was in her mouth it ain't in her mouth now yeah I don't know we'll see I I think
• 41:30
  honestly I think how rise of Skywalker does is going to determine a lot should
• 41:33
  we warn people are we going to do a spoiler episode next week oh that's a
• 41:38
  good question I don't know so guys I'm uh I'm going to be in transit next week
• 41:44
  uh so I'm not going to be able to record unless we do one earlier what what day
• 41:50
  are you all seeing this I'm seeing it like Wednesday night I'm seeing it
• 41:55
  Thursday night I'm seeing it th Thursday night which is Matt's Wednesday morning
• 42:00
  right no Thursday morning uh when do you fly out on the Saturday or the Sunday
• 42:05
  cuz maybe we can do like a no I I fly out on Friday night but then I'm up the
• 42:10
  North Coast on Saturday and then driving down the South Coast on Sunday now I can
• 42:17
  take my stuff with me and and try to try to get one in there uh let's let's do
• 42:23
  [Music] that yeah we we should to make something work something work let's just never
• 42:30
  discuss rise of Skywalker on this show that's right yeah cuz that'll work yeah
• 42:35
  yeah guys uh well we might as well keep on Star Wars for a bit you guys been
• 42:39
  watching Mando I'm one behind because one came out last night or yesterday and
• 42:44
  I haven't seen it yet I I just watched that one this afternoon according to
• 42:48
  Disney rules right we can talk about episode five now we just can't talk
• 42:52
  about the most recent one yeah they they they give a week out all right list so
• 42:58
  just for the Mandalorian we we're following the Disney rules so you get a
• 43:01
  week M uh we're not following the nice rules that we set out normally normally
• 43:07
  plenty of time two weeks yep but uh not anymore so how you feeling about
• 43:14
  Mandalorian I I'm still liking I I I think the the last episode we're talking
• 43:19
  about five I don't think that was the strongest I agree I agree I don't think
• 43:23
  it was the strongest either but I also don't think it was the weakest no
• 43:27
  because you didn't like four we it's not that I didn't even like it there was a
• 43:31
  lot of good stuff in it I just thought just thought it was a bit soft just a bit
• 43:38
  soft okay I I thought five which is the one that set on it said on tne so
• 43:44
  spoilers everybody that's it did not need to be set on tne I'll say that
• 43:48
  right it didn't need them to bump into the [ __ ] Tusk and Raiders just to be
• 43:52
  like hey remember Tusk and Raiders hey remember Dbacks hey remember the B I
• 43:57
  didn't mind Tusk Ro remember the exact seat that Han Solo was sitting in and
• 44:00
  the in that bar in you want to see him come riding in on a d back [ __ ] it
• 44:06
  was just like you want to see a that we no don't allow Droids that have Droids
• 44:12
  now working in it working there it was just it was just overload of all that
• 44:17
  like and in the whole episode it was kind of pointless I agree yeah it I'm
• 44:24
  going to guess that at the end there is that scene where that the charact uh
• 44:29
  mysterious character stands over the woman who's been shot yeah maybe that's
• 44:34
  going to come back at some point because if it doesn't there is no need to watch
• 44:38
  that episode I was going to say [ __ ] better why else would they show it that
• 44:42
  would be a weird decision I've thought that every episode so far that's going
• 44:45
  to come back into it so far nothing has every episode's been very Standalone I
• 44:50
  thought the [ __ ] droid bounty hunter from the first episode I'm like oh man
• 44:54
  he's not going to be happy tomorrow when he's repaired himself when he comes back
• 44:57
  to F no he's out he's gone he's dead yeah every episode is you could almost
• 45:03
  just watch them in any order and it wouldn't matter that much to be honest
• 45:07
  like there's a few things that carry through but not I think it's one of those kind of
• 45:13
  again a throwback to the kind of Serial Western which is just even if it's the
• 45:16
  same character you know the mysterious man in Black here he is doing another
• 45:21
  another adventure and well that brings us on to the the point where the Pedro
• 45:26
  the guy who Delan he's not there for much of it yeah which is funny because I
• 45:31
  always think like it would have been an exciting role to get but he's wearing
• 45:35
  the mask the whole time but then I guess oh you know the physicality of it's him
• 45:39
  no about five different guys play him uh one of the main ones is uh John Wayne's
• 45:45
  um grandson or something yeah that's pretty funny but um have we canceled those
• 45:52
  people um the uh the woman who directed episode 4 uh
• 45:58
  her name yeah you love her um she said she's never even met Pedro
• 46:03
  Pascal Ser an entire episode and not meet the and when the when the she was
• 46:09
  it was an interview and when the interviewer said what do you mean what
• 46:12
  was he doing she goes oh I think he was rehearsing some
• 46:15
  play we just had one of them how is his name in the credits for that episode
• 46:18
  then he wasn't even there I know well I guess he does the voice voice she didn't
• 46:24
  direct the [ __ ] voice acting for the episode she directed well
• 46:27
  I guess not no she probably wouldn't have why that seems odd to me I guess I
• 46:33
  don't know how TV works if you're AR work if you direct a TV show you just
• 46:36
  show up on set direct the actors and then you're not involved after that how
• 46:40
  does that work depend depends it depends yeah I think in some cases you stay on
• 46:44
  until the end of your episode and in some cases there's kind of like a series
• 46:47
  producer that basically takes what you've done and says thanks go home and
• 46:51
  cuz this might have been like they came in she came in filmed her stuff and then
• 46:54
  they're not recording the voice for another month or so so she's off doing
• 46:58
  something else does post production for a TV show like a TV series all happen at
• 47:02
  once or does every director or I guess maybe it's different for every show but
• 47:06
  is there a case where every director would actually see the whole episode
• 47:09
  from pre- to post- production or no they would just be involved in the Sho
• 47:13
  unlikely unlikely yeah right likely is that they will come on at some point in
• 47:17
  Pre and do a bit of research and then have probably some input into the edit
• 47:24
  but they probably won't be sitting in the edit room there's you also hear
• 47:27
  stories about like where directors go on to I'm going to film my thing and then
• 47:31
  everyone just does what they normally do and the director just there along for I
• 47:36
  do think about that sometimes like um you know some some series the director
• 47:40
  is so important like um Carrie fuga who does the um True Detective right like
• 47:46
  that has got a singular voice all the way through and I'm and I love it and
• 47:50
  I'm so psyched for his Bond movie for the same reason but then you've got
• 47:54
  something like Game of Thrones that each episode's just a different
• 47:57
  coming into direct but the continuity is fine in that it's not like there's a
• 48:01
  different voice each time so what do they actually do just say oh I guess a
• 48:05
  closeup here like yeah yeah here's the here's the handbook on how to shoot an
• 48:10
  episode of this show just follow it yeah last week it was on this we Kevin Smith
• 48:16
  went on and he's like done some of Supergirl and stuff yeah yeah and he
• 48:21
  basically says like he goes on and everyone just does what they do yeah
• 48:24
  right he will just say a couple things but for the most
• 48:29
  part like I would get Kevin Smith to come in and guess direct because you
• 48:33
  want that episode to be a little bit different yeah exactly M like really
• 48:36
  sharp talkie and like just talking about [ __ ] the entire time and it's in
• 48:41
  black and white and one of them is a lesbian like Supergirls like I was even
• 48:45
  supposed to be here [Laughter] today yeah Superman Supergirl flies off
• 48:51
  and [ __ ] Clark can'ts there going careful not to suck any dick on the way
• 48:54
  to [ __ ] Krypton well I don't know I've never seen it I've
• 48:59
  never seen it I don't know what happen in [ __ ] Supergirl no
• 49:04
  they probably not that Ali mcel I guess
• 49:08
  back to Ali MCB she's in it right is she Ali mcel is in it yeah I thought she
• 49:14
  doesn't do I thought she stopped acting I think kalista flocker is in Supergirl
• 49:18
  as basically an an like character oh okay I could be wrong hold on
• 49:24
  kalista flock she still married to Harris yeah I don't think I've seen her since
• 49:29
  she got married to Harrison Ford you reckon he keeps her hidden
• 49:34
  away I'm just saying uh yeah well without going into
• 49:40
  too much detail of research here she is in Supergirl but the two top asked
• 49:45
  questions are uh does kalista flock out leave Supergirl um when does kalista
• 49:51
  flart return to Supergirl right so why
• 49:56
  kist flart is badly missed on Supergirl kalist flart will return on the CW but
• 50:02
  not to Supergirl yeah who [ __ ] knows kalista flocker to return to Supergirl
• 50:06
  season 3 I don't know I don't know the internet I don't know what season
• 50:09
  they're up to so neither there were some trailers this week that I would like to
• 50:14
  discuss with you guys mhm should we start at the top or the bottom uh you
• 50:19
  you pick you choose which one you want to talk about first uh there's one that
• 50:23
  I've got literally nothing to say about so we could start with that one
• 50:27
  sure get through it which one's that Wonder Woman here's my review didn't
• 50:32
  make it through the trailer garbage really could not get to the end DC just
• 50:38
  don't know how to make a [ __ ] movie I'm also that they've made there's a
• 50:44
  mistake in the story and they're trying to make out oh she gets rid of cameras
• 50:47
  so that's why the world doesn't see her she's running through a mall with people
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  watching her well is that in the 80s before there was cameras everywhere uh
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  and it's only set in the ' 80s that I can assume is because um Captain Marvel
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  was set in the 9s and everyone liked that sort of but the whole thing was
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  like when Batman sort of came and got it it's like it's time for you to come out
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  cuz the only time you've been out was in the World War I had Adventures man I had
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  solid ADV run around everywhere and S and Coke I mean to be fair in the ' 80s
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  Batman was only a kid we now know that because in 1981 he was about 7 years old
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  we've seen the Joker put fingers in his mouth so that's the timeline that is the
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  current timeline that's probably why he doesn't remember she's like you're just
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  too little I mean oh and Chris P
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  back yeah I had a long lost love oh I mean I saw him quite a bit quite a bit
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  Yeah Yeah pop up every every couple of decades yeah here's a picture of him
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  yeah that's fine I saw him 20 years ago like I guess we don't know how he's back
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  the trailer didn't really explain that but it does seem to like I don't know I
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  also I don't know how Christen wig is going to go I quite like Christen
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  wig um I could take her but she looks like the comic relief for this well yeah
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  well she the way she she's going to start off with sort of the sweet
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  computer node and then she has to turn into cheatah
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  this she has to kill a woman well that's her character
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  yeah yeah so I and I just don't know how I don't know how well she'll go in the
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  second half of the movie well I yeah I mean I've only ever seen her in I've
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  seen her in uh Zoolander 2 which she was quite funny in and I've seen her in uh
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  maybe that's it I've seen her she was good in Bridesmaids I haven't seen that
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  God don't watch it man you won't like it I've seen I mean I've seen bits of the
• 52:44
  2016 Ghostbusters that I [ __ ] hated that no one was good in that all the
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  clips of that I've never even watched the whole film the clips made me just
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  feel that's just uncomfortable cuz it was so un it was just so cringy but but
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  then also speaking of there wasn't a script no I know the second one this one
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  I don't think the third one I don't from the trailer I don't think looks that
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  good either Ghostbusters afterlife really yeah no okay well that's that
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  brings us to our second trailer for this week Ghostbusters afterlife like I find
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  it a bit weird that it's all set out that the kids are finding the equipment
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  and stuff and he doesn't know about they don't know about ghosts when his
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  grandfather was a Ghostbuster yeah but they got rid of all the
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  ghosts presumably yeah once again it was back in the'80s and no one remembers
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  the80s yeah Ghostbusters got rid of all the cameras but ghosts don't show up on
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  camera man oh that's true like I'm just God if my grandfather was a Ghostbuster
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  I'm pretty sure someone would tell me yeah but they strange you seen
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  Ghostbusters too yes this at least looks better than that I was going to say out
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  of all of us right oh there's a family secret and Luke's like well everybody
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  would immediately know everything going on with their
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  family this is Luke saying
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  this well I I'll weigh in here I think
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  it's got potential uh I I'm a little annoyed that [ __ ] wolfard whatever
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  his name is is in literally every movie now but um whatever whatever also every
• 54:21
  movie is just stranger things inspir now but but that's what I mean and it's it's
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  fine cuz I stranger things and I love that they're doing more kind of like
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  retro sci-fi ghosty movies but you don't have to get the kid from stranger is not
• 54:34
  even the best kid from stranger things but anyway I think this looks
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  like the kind of kid Adventure movie I would have loved in the 80s yeah I was
• 54:47
  about to say that I don't think we're the target audience it doesn't matter
• 54:50
  I'm on this ride I want I want to see it looks I want to I'm now old enough that
• 54:55
  I don't mind kind of coming full circle again you know what I mean yeah the thing this
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  has a lot of uh
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  sorry I'm acting like a child um yes there's there's a lot of uh you know
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  everything's got a lot of nostalgia in it these days this trailer's got a lot
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  of stuff in it that's supposed to I guess signal to us Ghostbusters fans
• 55:20
  that this is you know G to be like the old one but there's a couple of things
• 55:24
  that about it that I was kind of like well hang on don't just throw that in
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  there cuz people pointed out in the background of one of the scenes where
• 55:32
  they're running around their house there's a bunch of books stacked which
• 55:36
  is a throwback to Ghostbusters with a symmetrical book stacking which was a
• 55:40
  little gag because they were in a [ __ ] Library not the ghost stack
• 55:44
  books all like they love stacking books yeah I mean I guess that is what they
• 55:49
  imply in that scene but it was just a joke like it was a [ __ ] Poltergeist
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  they [ __ ] moved [ __ ] around and he was in a library so the [ __ ] that got
• 55:57
  moved was a book yeah and so and it was a funny little gag and then that
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  symmetrical book stacking and then they make a little joke about it like you
• 56:03
  don't have to make it a plot point it was just yeah and in fact wenkman mocks
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  him and says this is 100% not a ghost thing yeah like at the time he makes fun
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  of him for saying no human would stack books symmetrical book stacking yeah
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  yeah but uh luk the kids might not remember because it was before they were
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  born but uh what's his name can never remember his [ __ ] name Paul rud Paul
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  rud remembers and Paul rud I assume is the representative for people our
• 56:34
  AG he's my eled represent because when when like like he sees that [ __ ] trap
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  and he's like wow cool replica [ __ ] Ghostbusters man yeah he's like I know
• 56:45
  the [ __ ]
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  Ghostbusters do you know uh I guess because of all this Ghostbusters talk
• 56:54
  there's been a lot of stuff about you know the old the the the the previous
• 56:57
  Ghostbusters movie uh the first ghost PR or the first Ghostbusters movie well
• 57:02
  there's two right well there's Ghostbusters which is no there's two uh
• 57:08
  the the first one uh was just [ __ ] lightning in a bottle like
• 57:13
  phenomenal like the second one came too soon well the second one I found out has
• 57:20
  a pretty interesting story and I really want to watch it again and also there's
• 57:23
  a lot of you don't I guess cut stuff and no but I do from a from a a film making
• 57:29
  perspective I'm interested in it because it got changed a lot as as the
• 57:34
  production went on and there's a lot of um deleted scenes and stuff online that
• 57:40
  you can kind of see what they were like what the plot originally was and then
• 57:44
  like halfway through it got completely changed and they just cut out like
• 57:48
  massive amounts of scenes ilm did special effects completed special
• 57:52
  effects for story lines that were completely cut out of the there's a
• 57:56
  story line where tul was trying to catch Slimer in the Ghostbusters God I'm they
• 58:02
  cut that and L Tully and Slimer are not why Ghostbusters was no I know but just
• 58:08
  the fact that that ilm Hollywood ilm was so overworked they had to bring in other
• 58:14
  product like like I guess lesser uh special effect companies to do this to
• 58:18
  do the other special effects and then they cut all the ilm special effects wow
• 58:23
  okay that's interesting like that the thing is the reason Ghostbusters was
• 58:27
  good was because it was an absurd premise played for absolute truth played
• 58:31
  with straight face everyone was the straight man yes except for leis Tully
• 58:36
  and in the second one you really get to pass in the second one everyone's leou
• 58:40
  Tully like yeah it's just everyone it's [ __ ] balls out comedy yeah I
• 58:47
  guess I think the second one I think would have been better if it came out
• 58:50
  like a decade after well it was two decades I think that was the problem I
• 58:55
  almost think was too long afterwards and people because Ghostbusters came out and
• 59:00
  then I think it was just long enough that everybody who was who made it kind
• 59:03
  of forgot how to make it you know what I and then they bought into the the kind
• 59:09
  of changed a little bit yeah since then which is dangerous you either do one
• 59:14
  straight away and it's like Back to the Future 2 now back to the future three or
• 59:18
  you wait 40 years because it reminds me of I know everyone makes fun of J.J ABS
• 59:24
  a lot but you know his his Ted talk J Jam Head talk where he talks about how
• 59:29
  uh and whether he executes this correctly or not I think he's right it's
• 59:32
  like what is it about something that you love that makes you love it and how do
• 59:36
  you capture that if you want to kind of do a sequel or a remake you know he
• 59:40
  talks about the Nostalgia and he shows that scene from Jaws where it's just the
• 59:45
  dad and the and the kid and it's a great scene and it's like if you were going to
• 59:48
  that's the kind of thing that you should rep try and replicate if you wanted to
• 59:52
  to capture the Nostalgia of Jaws not just like oh there's a Shar yeah exactly
• 59:57
  that's right that's the wrong thing but everyone thinks it's the shark but it's
• 1:00:01
  not the shark no it's not it's the fact that there's beautiful scenes like that
• 1:00:05
  where the kid is mimicking the movements of his father yes and there you know got
• 1:00:11
  this bond that that's right yeah yeah well remember if they had if that shark
• 1:00:15
  had have been working I don't think Joel's would have been a good movie
• 1:00:17
  that's true too it would have been much more schlocky Yep also every third shot was a
• 1:00:23
  shot of the shark there was a YouTube video I watched just about Jurassic Park
• 1:00:27
  in general and why the the Jurassic Park the original with its special
• 1:00:34
  effects you know it holds up better than the new ones and and just why why and
• 1:00:39
  just the way the shots are and all that kind of stuff and it just really makes
• 1:00:42
  me respect yeah well the younger Steven
• 1:00:44
  Spielberg so Jurassic Park had 200 shots with a special effect in them 200 out of
• 1:00:51
  the entire movie um and I think I was reading somewhere that um David Finch's
• 1:00:58
  The Social Network had 1,500 special effects in it yeah it's crazy and that's
• 1:01:05
  not a [ __ ] science fiction movie you know what I mean no that cuz they were
• 1:01:08
  having like the names on the doors they were just will get it thing the fact
• 1:01:12
  that you can change everything in the computer now doesn't mean your movie is
• 1:01:15
  going to be any better you can't rely on that the breath when they were outside
• 1:01:20
  talking was all fake to make it look cold that looked that was a bad effect
• 1:01:23
  in Social Network [ __ ] awful yeah it's too much too much of it too much
• 1:01:29
  but yeah Spielberg old the Spielberg movies [ __ ] amazing more wor stuff
• 1:01:35
  [ __ ] off Luke you're G to get [ __ ]
• 1:01:38
  raped and buried in a shallow grave I'm
• 1:01:44
  sorry Close Encounters is a
• 1:01:49
  terrible absolutely terrible mov wrong you are wrong yeah you're you're
• 1:01:54
  incorrect on that one afraid I did I did Force Jenna to watch it's a long M yeah
• 1:02:00
  and it's a slow movie I'll give you that I'll give you that but oh I'm going to
• 1:02:06
  make a mountain out of potatoes oo he made mountains out of much more
• 1:02:11
  than potatoes Luke that's not the whole
• 1:02:15
  plot M out of potatoes that's all I can remember that's what I'm going it's not
• 1:02:20
  even the most impressive Mountain he made Luke no he made much bigger mountains
• 1:02:26
  I remember that that's the only seene I remember I've been to that mountain have
• 1:02:30
  you not the potato potatoes Devil's peak in uh in Wisconsin yeah I've been there
• 1:02:36
  no Wyoming sorry Wyoming yeah I've been there Devil's Peak beautiful dick it's
• 1:02:40
  amazing they're not really sure how it formed but they think it's like aliens
• 1:02:44
  man for Christ sake you not been listening yeah you're right my bad all
• 1:02:50
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