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O'Brien & Doug Ep185 [February 29, 2024 The Leap Year Episode] · O'Brien & Doug

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SPEAKER_03: Hey, it's cousin Larry.
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SPEAKER_03: You're listening to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast, brought to you in part by MoserMultimedia.com, TMH Music in West County, and the Rage Runner in Westfield Band.
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SPEAKER_03: And me, Doug's cousin and his mom's favorite nephew, Larry.
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SPEAKER_03: Rola guys.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say it right.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: We had to concentrate on that.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh it is episode 185.
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SPEAKER_02: I know I I uh I make that joke because at the beginning of the last podcast, I said, Welcome.
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SPEAKER_02: Welcome.
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SPEAKER_02: And the reason I know that is because we took another uh road trip this past weekend because we had travel basketball with the youngest.
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SPEAKER_02: And yes, we listened to the podcast.
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SPEAKER_02: And the end of the podcast was the best part when we were talking about you having a podcast with Teresa.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, she thought that was yes, she thought that was quite comical.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm telling you, it would be friggin' gold.
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SPEAKER_01: And I said, I kept saying, she's not gonna listen to this.
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SPEAKER_01: She looks at me like worm.
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SPEAKER_01: No, what's doing this?
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SPEAKER_01: Hello.
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SPEAKER_01: She's like, you always say that.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, you're right.
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SPEAKER_02: And I never think you're going to, but you end up doing it.
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SPEAKER_02: So, um, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So welcome to episode 185.
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SPEAKER_02: So yeah, our our travel weekend.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, one of many.
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SPEAKER_02: Um Myra went down with her uh third and fourth grade team.
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SPEAKER_02: Travel team.
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SPEAKER_09: One what are they called?
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SPEAKER_02: Wildcats.
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SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: I thought they might have a cool name.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't think they do.
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SPEAKER_02: I think they just because you know, I know that when they do the one, two, three, wildcats.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_02: But I will say um they played amazingly.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: They are a and my friend Hillary actually pointed it out um because I was a little worried because it was it was kind of a down-east tournament, mostly down east teams.
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SPEAKER_02: Like you had uh Newport, you had Blue Hill, you had Mar Morano Cook, um uh there was a couple of them.
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SPEAKER_02: Um Lincoln.
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SPEAKER_02: That's not Downeast, I guess, but Downeast.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So anyway, um there was eight teams and they were in two pools, pool A and pool B.
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SPEAKER_02: And so they went down and they played really hard uh and won the first two games.
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SPEAKER_02: And then um Hillary watched one of the other teams that they were gonna play the next day.
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SPEAKER_02: And she's like, Oh, they're really physical, and they're there's a lot of fouling, and there's a lot of crying, and there's a lot of you know There's no crying in basketball.
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SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_01: So a lot of crying.
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SPEAKER_07: So she's Well then, man! Yeah, it's not like that, they were getting hurt.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they were getting hurt.
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SPEAKER_02: So I was like, okay, so and I told you.
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SPEAKER_01: So basically, like the bad news bearers uh basketball.
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SPEAKER_02: And they were they were winning everything.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Them and there was another uh uh team called Oceanside.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, and they were winning everything.
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SPEAKER_02: Fancy and so I was like, well, these the apparently you know, Myra, these these ones are very physical, so you need to be be tough.
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SPEAKER_02: Be you know, be ready.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, I will.
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SPEAKER_02: And so I was talking to Hillary about this, and she said she pointed something out about this team because I always called this this Wildcat team scrappy.
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SPEAKER_02: Because they're not real big.
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SPEAKER_02: Myra's like the biggest one, the tallest one.
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SPEAKER_09: Really?
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: Wow.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh they're not real big, but but they're fast and get out of their way.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's like I've never seen so many stolen balls.
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SPEAKER_02: Really?
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's like the other team will get the ball, and then and then one of the there's a little girl named Maggie on our team, she'll go up.
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SPEAKER_01: Just grab it and run.
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SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
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SPEAKER_02: So I call them scrappy, but uh Hillary said, uh, you know what?
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SPEAKER_02: They they play up and they play down to the team that they're playing.
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SPEAKER_02: They adjust.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was like, you know, that's true.
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SPEAKER_02: And what do you know?
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SPEAKER_02: One of the teams that we had to play was Moranico.
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SPEAKER_02: And they'd beat another team 30 to 10.
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SPEAKER_02: And so this is the physical one.
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, you know, this is I'm lowered by this one.
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SPEAKER_02: And we played them and we stayed with them the entire game, and they beat us by seven.
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SPEAKER_02: Right?
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SPEAKER_02: So we were in we so we didn't make first place.
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SPEAKER_02: We were like play the next team we had to play was for second place or something like third place or whatever, second place.
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SPEAKER_02: So we played Oceanside, which is the other one that was beating everybody.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: We led most of the game.
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SPEAKER_02: And then uh towards the end, Oceanside got on this run and they beat us by I think maybe ten or fifteen points.
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SPEAKER_02: But every other every other team they beat by like thirty points.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: So I was like, you know what?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm just impressed with these girls.
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SPEAKER_09: It was it was uh I mean, yeah, I get impressed, you know, you're still getting beat, but you're not getting beat by as much.
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SPEAKER_09: I mean, that's that's that's a testament to how they're playing.
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SPEAKER_09: Starting to bug me.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So anyway, so I was traveling and uh we were staying at a different hotel than the rest of the uh the rest of the team because the party hotel.
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SPEAKER_02: No, it was a long story.
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SPEAKER_02: It was a long story.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh we didn't we didn't book in time.
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SPEAKER_02: They the group rates and stuff like that, we didn't book in time.
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SPEAKER_02: Because we forgot we have so many of these things lined up that we we didn't book our hotel in time.
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SPEAKER_02: So uh we tried to book and they said, Oh, well, it's gonna be like just because it was tournament down in Bangor.
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SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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SPEAKER_02: And all kinds of other things were going on, so they jacked up the price.
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SPEAKER_02: Of course.
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SPEAKER_01: We're gonna go to a different state.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: So we we stayed like across town, um, which wasn't very far away.
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SPEAKER_02: But anyway, we uh we went to their hotel and used their pool.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: So so I took my my wife and daughter, she hung out with with her the fri her friends and and guess what I did?
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SPEAKER_02: You went to Bull Moose.
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SPEAKER_02: I did Of course you went to Bowl Moose.
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SPEAKER_01: And I spent like an hour in the book.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, wow.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: That's that's a good amount of time.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, wow well maybe it wasn't quite an hour, but it was it was a long longer than I w would normally Yeah, usually you're there like fifteen minutes.
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SPEAKER_01: Right or twenty minutes or something.
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SPEAKER_01: But you know, I only walked out of there with two albums.
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SPEAKER_01: Really?
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SPEAKER_02: And and I so I I the first thing I did, I walked in and I had Extreme Six in my hand.
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SPEAKER_08: Again.
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SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm walking and I'm looking at other CDs and then and then I had Extreme and I have to watch my you know, I'm not like you independently wealthy.
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SPEAKER_09: Um when did I become independently wealthy?
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah, but you I'm not when I'm not independently wealthy, I just have no dependence.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, that's what I'm saying.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: You have no problem shelling out, you know, fifty bucks here, fifty bucks there, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: I can't do that.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm holding uh Extreme Six.
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SPEAKER_02: I've got the the one of the latest Satriani albums that I don't have, Elephants from Mars or something like that.
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SPEAKER_02: I had that, and that was$17 because it was like a deluxe.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then the Extreme Six was like$14 or$15, something like that.
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SPEAKER_02: So right there, that's over$30.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm walking around, I'm looking, I'm like I put the Saturn back.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm looking you have to be in the right mood, right?
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SPEAKER_02: And I was in a I was in a rock mood.
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SPEAKER_02: And so I'm I'm I'm looking, I'm looking, I'm gonna put this extreme back.
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SPEAKER_02: So I just start looking like actually like looking through the stacks at the titles of the CDs, like who who what what am I what am I looking for?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not looking for anything really.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm just you know so I I I stumble on this album that they had one song that I knew and liked, and you know how I am.
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SPEAKER_02: I like my melodic rock my how can I say this?
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SPEAKER_02: It's uh 80s-ish sound, but just like a band, like a rock band.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, like Journey, bad English, you know, just like rock melodic rock band.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm talking about?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
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SPEAKER_02: So I I see this album and I'm like, hmm, I know that one song.
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SPEAKER_02: And I know kind of the history of this band a little bit.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna grab that one.
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SPEAKER_02: So I grabbed it.
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, if they have this, I wonder if they have this other album from this other unknown band.
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SPEAKER_02: And they did.
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SPEAKER_02: So I bought those two albums.
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SPEAKER_09: I bet they were like two bucks.
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SPEAKER_02: They were one both both eight bucks.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: They were both eight bucks.
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SPEAKER_02: And you know, so it was I had to I had to leave, so I went, I thought I'm done.
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SPEAKER_02: So I went and I bought I I bought them and and brought them home and and so I want to talk about those two albums today because I think it's an interesting story.
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SPEAKER_02: And you're gonna find it interesting as well.
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SPEAKER_02: So the first band that I came to.
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SPEAKER_09: You shouldn't assume things.
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SPEAKER_02: The first band that I came to be really bored is actually no, because because you know uh we know we haven't had a conversation with a member of this band.
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SPEAKER_02: You're intrigued now, aren't you?
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SPEAKER_09: We've had a conversation with a member of this band?
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SPEAKER_09: Yes.
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SPEAKER_09: Was it the uh turkey drifters?
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SPEAKER_01: No.
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SPEAKER_02: Let me let me explain.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: The first album that I came across was this.
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SPEAKER_02: Have you ever heard of RTZ?
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SPEAKER_01: No.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: RTZ stands for Return to Zero.
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SPEAKER_09: Well, I knew that because that's what it says at the bottom.
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SPEAKER_09: Oh.
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't know it was on there.
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SPEAKER_01: I loved how you were so confident about my.
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SPEAKER_01: It's okay, Doug.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna teach you something here.
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SPEAKER_09: Doug, you're gonna learn right now.
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SPEAKER_09: I'm going to teach you.
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SPEAKER_09: I'm going to be your instructor for the next five seconds.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, so before I talk about it, I wanna just play you a little bit of it.
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SPEAKER_02: And you'll see what I mean when I say just, you know, like straight rock and roll, melodic rock and roll.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay?
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SPEAKER_02: So they had a few singles from this.
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SPEAKER_02: They had one song that went number one, not in the US.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh I think it hit number 26 in the US, but it w other places in the world it went number one.
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SPEAKER_02: But this isn't it.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna play this this one first.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
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SPEAKER_05: I can't blame you.
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SPEAKER_05: Nobody wants to be the fool.
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SPEAKER_05: Face a music, it's all in front of you.
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SPEAKER_05: You can get it if you really know this guy.
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SPEAKER_05: You can get it if you the voice sounds really familiar.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: You don't know him, like personally.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, nah no, I'm just saying that you do know the singer.
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SPEAKER_09: I do.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I know, I know who it is.
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SPEAKER_09: Yes.
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SPEAKER_09: Like, what about say because it sounds really familiar?
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SPEAKER_05: You can get it, because it's everywhere.
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SPEAKER_05: And then you get it.
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SPEAKER_02: This was this came out in nineteen ninety-one.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'm gonna play this one.
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SPEAKER_02: Are you looking it up?
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SPEAKER_02: No, okay.
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SPEAKER_09: No, but it's rock.
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SPEAKER_09: It's it's it's hard ish rock.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like it's pop rock.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: It's kinda like firehouse rock.
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SPEAKER_09: Firehouse is actually a little harder than this.
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SPEAKER_09: Not much.
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SPEAKER_09: No.
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SPEAKER_09: Cutting drill, that's okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Alright, I'm gonna play one more.
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SPEAKER_02: Alright.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, this is the one that went number one in a couple of different places.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, and you may recognize this.
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SPEAKER_02: This is the one I bought the album for, actually.
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SPEAKER_09: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's long, so I'm just gonna wait till it gets to the chorus.
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SPEAKER_02: But you're really gonna, I mean, you thought you recognized the voice before.
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SPEAKER_02: This song, definitely.
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SPEAKER_05: I thought I spoke to you last evening.
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SPEAKER_05: I woke up crying in my sleep.
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SPEAKER_02: The song sound familiar at all to you.
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SPEAKER_05: Dream that we were still together.
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SPEAKER_02: But that voice still is just like, oh yeah, you'll kick yourself in a second.
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SPEAKER_05: Now I'm back out on the street.
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SPEAKER_05: I've been running so hard, try to find a place.
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SPEAKER_05: Where my baby might be staying.
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SPEAKER_05: I just pay.
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SPEAKER_02: Anything?
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SPEAKER_02: Nope.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So this is Until Your Love Comes Back Around.
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SPEAKER_02: And this was a hit for them.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Um Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So late 80s.
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SPEAKER_02: The guitar player left his band.
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SPEAKER_02: And this guitar player?
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SPEAKER_02: This guitar player left his band.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And went and tried to do other things.
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SPEAKER_02: He stayed in contact with the lead singer of his previous band.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Who also they were his they were kind of on a hiatus, so he went and hooked up with him and they started writing songs.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And then this band was born.
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SPEAKER_09: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So they have uh a guy named David Stefanelli Stefanelli on drums, Tim Archibald on bass, Brian Mays on keyboards.
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SPEAKER_02: He wrote this song.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Do you remember Brian Mays?
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: Do you remember Tim Archibald?
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SPEAKER_09: No.
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SPEAKER_02: Do you remember Barry Goudreux from Boston?
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SPEAKER_09: Vaguely.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, how about the lead singer of Boston, Brad Delp?
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SPEAKER_02: Is that why it sounds familiar?
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Ah, I kept going, man, that guy sounds familiar.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, now check this out.
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SPEAKER_02: They went on tour opening for people.
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SPEAKER_02: And David Stefanelli on drums decided if he was gonna leave, so they brought Sib Hashian in from Boston.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: So essentially, with Brad Delp on lead vocals, this is Ernie and the Automatics.
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SPEAKER_09: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_09: Right?
17:35
SPEAKER_09: Right, okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Brian Mays was the keyboard player that sang.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Barry Goudreau was the guitar player.
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SPEAKER_09: Is he the guy we were talking to?
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SPEAKER_09: Yes.
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SPEAKER_09: Okay, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Tim Archibald played bass.
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SPEAKER_02: And uh Sib Hashian, the late great Sib Hashian.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Played drums.
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SPEAKER_09: Well.
17:51
SPEAKER_02: Well, there we go.
17:52
SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: So this is basically one, two.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, Sib is not on the album.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: But two members of Boston.
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SPEAKER_02: So this is basically Boston like a side project.
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SPEAKER_09: This is this is like Southie.
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SPEAKER_09: Right.
18:08
SPEAKER_09: Right.
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SPEAKER_09: It's just outside of Boston.
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SPEAKER_02: So now, along those same lines, I didn't know this part.
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SPEAKER_02: Remember, I said, well, they have this album.
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SPEAKER_02: So I wonder if they have this album by this other kind of unknown band.
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SPEAKER_02: And that other unknown band is called The Storm.
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SPEAKER_02: Never heard of it.
18:32
SPEAKER_02: Never heard of it.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Let me see if you actually you probably won't recognize but I do want to play it before I even talk about it.
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SPEAKER_02: So I've got also in nineteen ninety-one.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, so that's I've got a lot to learn about love.
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SPEAKER_02: Let me play another one.
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SPEAKER_02: Tell me if the singer reminds you of anybody, by the way.
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SPEAKER_09: Well, it does sound familiar.
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SPEAKER_02: You don't know him, I don't think.
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SPEAKER_02: Probably just tell me who he if he reminds you of anybody.
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SPEAKER_09: Does it weird what what it am I supposed to what do you remind me of?
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SPEAKER_09: Another stinger.
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SPEAKER_09: Kind of like a John Waite-ish.
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SPEAKER_09: Not Steve Perry.
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SPEAKER_09: Not really.
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SPEAKER_09: A little bit.
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SPEAKER_09: He doesn't have the range of Perry, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So the storm, and and a lot of this I did not know.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh I knew that it was Greg Raleigh's band.
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SPEAKER_02: Greg Raleigh.
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SPEAKER_09: Didn't he used to play with Journey?
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
21:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So you you'd recognize his voice.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
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SPEAKER_02: He was before Steve Perry.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_07: Yesterday was a good day.
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SPEAKER_02: That's Greg Raleigh.
21:59
SPEAKER_02: Right.
21:59
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
22:05
SPEAKER_02: So this was his project, and I knew that.
22:08
SPEAKER_02: Uh Kevin's channel font was the other singer.
22:12
SPEAKER_02: The one that sounds a little like Steve Perry.
22:14
SPEAKER_02: Right.
22:17
SPEAKER_02: Um by the way, I think it's weird uh when two guys are singing about singing a love song.
22:28
SPEAKER_02: Don't you?
22:31
SPEAKER_09: Uh yes and no.
22:33
SPEAKER_09: I mean I mean Lennon McCartney did for years.
22:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's not what I mean.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: Like like um they're like one would sing a line like, Oh, I miss you so much and and I can't live without you, and then the other one would sing a line, oh, you'll always be mine.
22:51
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, but Chicago did that.
22:52
SPEAKER_09: I know.
22:52
SPEAKER_09: I always thought it was weird.
22:55
SPEAKER_02: It was great, don't get me wrong, but I always thought it was like, yeah, they should like duke it out or something.
23:00
SPEAKER_02: You guys should have a fight.
23:03
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so so Greg Raleigh and Kevin Chafant, uh, Greg Raleigh on keyboards and and vocals, Kevin Chafant on lead vocals, Josh Ramos uh on guitars and vocals, um, and the rhythm section from Journey, Ross Valerie, and Steve Smith.
23:22
SPEAKER_02: So this essentially is Journey.
23:24
SPEAKER_02: It's a journey side project.
23:26
SPEAKER_02: Pretty much.
23:26
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
23:27
SPEAKER_02: Um, which I didn't know when I when I bought it.
23:29
SPEAKER_02: I I'd read about the storm, I read about Greg Raleigh's band, and I was like, That would explain it it's uh how why it's so heavily keyboarded.
23:36
SPEAKER_02: Right.
23:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
23:37
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
23:37
SPEAKER_02: Um and I I was just it got me thinking, and the fact that I got these both of these albums back, because I don't have a CD player in my car, so I had to listen to them when I got home.
23:48
SPEAKER_02: Right.
23:49
SPEAKER_02: And so I got them back and I listened to some of them, and it got me thinking about because and they I learned that they both came out in 1991.
24:00
SPEAKER_02: What was interesting about that year, 1991.
24:02
SPEAKER_02: And you know, Boston again was they wouldn't release another album uh because Brad Brad Delp uh was with RTZ for a couple of tours, a couple of years or whatever, and then he went back to Boston.
24:14
SPEAKER_02: Right.
24:15
SPEAKER_02: And they did the um um was it Walk On album?
24:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they did the walk on album.
24:22
SPEAKER_02: And and the same thing with uh Journey.
24:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean Journey had that when did Trial by Fire come out?
24:29
SPEAKER_02: Trial by Fire was the um was the one that kind of let's see, hold on.
24:39
SPEAKER_02: I wanna see the podcast is all about looking it up as you're thinking about it.
24:49
SPEAKER_02: Uh 1996.
24:50
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so so they had released Raised on Radio and then took a break.
24:55
SPEAKER_02: Steve Perry went and did O'Sherry.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: Right.
24:58
SPEAKER_02: And they came back and um they actually they broke up, right?
25:04
SPEAKER_02: Because they because the other guys did bad English.
25:07
SPEAKER_02: Right.
25:08
SPEAKER_02: That explains it.
25:09
SPEAKER_02: So so 91, when did bad bad English was like 89-ish?
25:13
SPEAKER_02: 88, 89?
25:14
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it was like late 80s.
25:16
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
25:16
SPEAKER_02: So that's Neil Sean and Jonathan Kane from Journey.
25:19
SPEAKER_02: Right.
25:19
SPEAKER_02: Ross Valerie and Steve Smith are in the storm.
25:22
SPEAKER_02: Right.
25:23
SPEAKER_02: Right around the same time.
25:25
SPEAKER_02: They wouldn't get back together with Steve Perry until and release that album, Trial by Fire, until 96.
25:31
SPEAKER_02: Uh, and then Steve Perry broke his hip or something, and they got a new lead singer, and then the rest is history.
25:36
SPEAKER_02: Right.
25:37
SPEAKER_02: But um it got me thinking about the life of a musician and how and you know, I I f I think about the the security that I have now, which is not a lot, but I have a job, right?
25:57
SPEAKER_02: I I have health insurance, um, I have food to put on the table.
26:04
SPEAKER_02: I know when my pay where my paycheck is coming from.
26:07
SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I mean?
26:08
SPEAKER_02: Um my kids are provided for.
26:11
SPEAKER_02: Uh the life of a musician, like if even if you're in a big act, if that big act sorry, that is a little distracting, isn't it?
26:26
SPEAKER_09: What are you talking about?
26:26
SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't hear anything.
26:28
SPEAKER_01: Other than your ceiling coming in.
26:30
SPEAKER_02: My my daughter, we're listening to the podcast on the trip, and she's like, damn, what is that noise?
26:37
SPEAKER_02: Um ambience.
26:39
SPEAKER_02: Right.
26:40
SPEAKER_02: So uh uh even if you're in a big act, if that act somehow uh goes away I mean hopefully you've you've handled your money right and you've got you've got some years of padding, right?
26:56
SPEAKER_02: Right.
26:58
SPEAKER_02: Um but you're looking for the next thing.
27:02
SPEAKER_02: Right.
27:02
SPEAKER_02: You're looking to to keep going as a musician and provide for yourself and your family, and and you know and there's a lot of musicians out there.
27:14
SPEAKER_02: We talked about this because I think you asked me one time we were talking about the music cares.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, we were.
27:21
SPEAKER_02: So music cares is a is a is an organization that helps with insurance or medical bills or whatever for musicians because it's a real thing.
27:31
SPEAKER_02: They you know, a lot of them.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you want to work think of Josh.
27:36
SPEAKER_02: Think of Josh.
27:37
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't know what his situation is.
27:38
SPEAKER_02: I know he's doing very well.
27:39
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
27:40
SPEAKER_02: Um, but what if that dried up?
27:44
SPEAKER_02: Right?
27:44
SPEAKER_09: He's Well, his wife has got very, very good health insurance because she's a nurse.
27:48
SPEAKER_09: She's a nurse.
27:49
SPEAKER_09: No, and I get that.
27:50
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but let's say b before he was married.
27:52
SPEAKER_09: Right.
27:52
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
27:53
SPEAKER_09: So Well, if if you think during the uh the early days of the pandemic, I mean his hi his gig just dried up.
28:01
SPEAKER_02: Right.
28:01
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they're just done.
28:02
SPEAKER_02: And and and this is probably a bad example because Josh also has an engineering degree, so Josh could get a job anywhere.
28:08
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
28:09
SPEAKER_02: He would be fine.
28:09
SPEAKER_02: But what I'm saying is someone who wants to um who wants to do music and only music as as a as a way of life, as a as a living.
28:21
SPEAKER_02: And and and maybe that's all they know actually.
28:24
SPEAKER_02: Maybe they haven't had a real job.
28:25
SPEAKER_02: Maybe they, you know, started when they were young and and got lucky and in the right place at the right time, and they w became a musician and they made a living from it, and then it dried up, and now they don't have anything.
28:36
SPEAKER_02: Right.
28:36
SPEAKER_02: So you're always looking for your next gig.
28:41
SPEAKER_02: Uh and even even guys like this, you know, I mean, there's a I told you before we started the podcast that um there's also a creative drive there.
28:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:52
SPEAKER_02: Um that last week we we were gonna get together with the with our other side project, Skinny Elvis, and I got so excited that I wrote four songs.
29:02
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
29:02
SPEAKER_02: They're not great songs, but I mean just the idea of creating drove me to write four songs.
29:10
SPEAKER_02: Right.
29:11
SPEAKER_02: Sets of lyrics, I should say.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: And I gotta think that that drive, that creative drive, and the need to provide for yourself or your friend or your family is what causes these these artists to I mean, we were talking about these these are two bands that we're talking about, RTZ and the storm, right?
29:38
SPEAKER_02: But think of um think of somebody like what pops in my head, Trickster.
29:46
unknown: Okay?
29:47
SPEAKER_02: Trickster hasn't been around for a long time.
29:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:49
SPEAKER_02: They're still together, I think.
29:51
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I think they're just like they're a cover band now.
29:53
SPEAKER_02: Well, they're not only that, but I mean PJ Farley, like, well, here's another example.
29:59
SPEAKER_02: Eric Martin from Mr.
30:00
SPEAKER_02: Big.
30:00
SPEAKER_02: Okay, Mr.
30:01
SPEAKER_02: Big is uh big in Japan, and and they're on tour right now, they're on a farewell tour around the ra uh the US right now.
30:11
SPEAKER_02: And but Eric Martin all also has the Eric Martin band.
30:16
SPEAKER_02: And he also goes out with PJ Farley from Trickster playing bass acoustically.
30:23
SPEAKER_02: He's always got a gig.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: He's always, you know, looking to uh m uh make a living, right?
30:32
SPEAKER_02: Even when Mr.
30:32
SPEAKER_02: Big goes away, he's gotta make a living.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: And he's lucky in that he has the back catalog and the road royalties, and I don't know how much of that is a thing now that the streaming has taken over, but um I just think it's an interesting thing to think about.
30:47
SPEAKER_02: We th we put all these um rock stars and musicians and and and and whatnot on a pedestal, you know, and we we think of the the way they live their lives, and some of them do, you know, but I think a lot of them Well not everybody's Taylor Swift.
31:02
SPEAKER_02: Right.
31:03
SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
31:04
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
31:04
SPEAKER_09: Not everybody can just like make billions of dollars just by putting out a you know a post or an a single tour, you know, that thing, you know.
31:13
SPEAKER_09: A lot of these guys have to work at it.
31:15
SPEAKER_09: So if if this project isn't do anything, okay, let's do something with this project.
31:20
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
31:20
SPEAKER_02: And the same can be said, this just popped into my head, the same can be said for um actors that may have had a uh a big career and now they don't anymore, and you see them all on cameo, right?
31:36
SPEAKER_02: For a hundred bucks, you can have this actor or this musician, actually.
31:41
SPEAKER_02: There's musicians on cameo.
31:43
SPEAKER_02: Athletes.
31:44
SPEAKER_02: For a hundred bucks, you can have this athlete send you a personal message.
31:48
SPEAKER_02: You know?
31:49
SPEAKER_02: It's a s it's an income stream.
31:51
SPEAKER_09: Well, yeah.
31:52
SPEAKER_09: I mean You know what I mean?
31:53
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, people it's diversifying and it's I don't know.
31:58
SPEAKER_09: I mean you gotta you gotta you gotta in this day and age you gotta make money where you can.
32:02
SPEAKER_02: Right.
32:03
SPEAKER_09: Because it's not guaranteed anymore.
32:05
SPEAKER_02: Right.
32:06
SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
32:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:07
SPEAKER_02: And I got I you know, I get thinking about that because I've always wanted to make a living as a musician in in music somehow or around music.
32:16
SPEAKER_02: That's why I wanted to radio.
32:18
SPEAKER_09: Well, when we first started, we probably could have if we were in a different market.
32:22
SPEAKER_02: You think so?
32:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
32:24
SPEAKER_09: Up here?
32:25
SPEAKER_09: No.
32:26
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you can't you can't make a you can't make a living playing up here.
32:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:32
SPEAKER_09: Well, look at our friend uh Adam.
32:35
SPEAKER_09: Adam Willette.
32:36
SPEAKER_09: Yeah That's what he does, but he doesn't do it up here very often.
32:41
SPEAKER_09: He does do it up here, but he's downstate most of the time.
32:45
SPEAKER_09: Is he?
32:45
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
32:46
SPEAKER_09: Oh, I know.
32:47
SPEAKER_09: Most of his gigs are in the Bangor or South area.
32:49
SPEAKER_02: But doesn't he live in the valley?
32:51
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
32:51
SPEAKER_02: I never knew that.
32:52
SPEAKER_02: He most of the gigs.
32:53
SPEAKER_09: But if you're gonna make a living as a musician, you can't do it up here.
32:56
SPEAKER_02: Right.
32:56
SPEAKER_02: So how uh how does he do that?
32:58
SPEAKER_02: Does he just travel?
33:00
SPEAKER_09: Travels.
33:01
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
33:01
SPEAKER_09: Because he does the DJ thing and he does his acoustic thing.
33:04
SPEAKER_01: Right.
33:05
SPEAKER_09: You know, and that's what he does.
33:07
SPEAKER_09: But he he doesn't do it.
33:08
SPEAKER_09: I mean, he's got a gig up here, yeah.
33:10
SPEAKER_09: Yeah up in the valley.
33:12
SPEAKER_09: But most of his gigs, if you want to make a living, you've got to play downstate.
33:16
SPEAKER_09: I gotta ask.
33:16
SPEAKER_09: And there's a bigger market.
33:17
SPEAKER_02: I gotta ask, do you know?
33:18
SPEAKER_02: Does he have a regular job?
33:20
SPEAKER_02: No, that this is his job.
33:21
SPEAKER_02: That's his job.
33:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:23
SPEAKER_02: I gotta talk to him.
33:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I gotta talk to him.
33:26
SPEAKER_02: That'd be an interesting conversation.
33:27
SPEAKER_02: We should have him on the podcast.
33:28
SPEAKER_09: I think that'd be great.
33:30
SPEAKER_09: I'd like to talk to him.
33:30
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I haven't talked to him.
33:31
SPEAKER_09: I haven't talked to him in years.
33:32
SPEAKER_09: No, neither have I.
33:33
SPEAKER_09: I just follow him on social media, but uh that's what he does.
33:36
SPEAKER_09: I mean, his gigs are not up here.
33:38
SPEAKER_02: Right.
33:38
SPEAKER_09: Because if you want to make a living as a musician, you gotta go somewhere else.
33:42
SPEAKER_09: You gotta go somewhere.
33:42
SPEAKER_09: You gotta go where the people are.
33:43
SPEAKER_09: Right.
33:43
SPEAKER_09: And the people are not up here.
33:45
SPEAKER_02: Right.
33:45
SPEAKER_09: There are people up here, but they don't have any money.
33:49
SPEAKER_02: This is true.
33:51
SPEAKER_09: I'm not it's not a put down, it's just it's just reality.
33:54
SPEAKER_09: It's true.
33:55
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
33:55
SPEAKER_09: You i I mean, look at look at uh pre-COVID.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:00
SPEAKER_09: Remember how many bands were around?
34:02
SPEAKER_02: A lot.
34:03
SPEAKER_09: A lot of places to play.
34:04
SPEAKER_09: And a lot of places to play.
34:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:06
SPEAKER_09: Four years later, they're all gone.
34:08
SPEAKER_09: Probably three quarters of those bands are all gone.
34:12
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
34:12
SPEAKER_09: Probably half the places that we used to play are gone.
34:16
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
34:16
SPEAKER_09: It is just dried regularly.
34:18
SPEAKER_02: I would say more than half of the places.
34:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm just I'm just being that's a conservative number, but it's true.
34:23
SPEAKER_09: But yeah, it's music is a sucky business.
34:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:28
unknown: Yeah.
34:28
SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
34:29
SPEAKER_09: If you if I mean if you're looking to make a living, music is not it.
34:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, see, now you're depressing me.
34:35
SPEAKER_02: You're right.
34:35
SPEAKER_02: You're absolutely right.
34:36
SPEAKER_09: I'm I'm not trying to depress anybody.
34:38
SPEAKER_09: I'm just I'm just a realist.
34:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:40
SPEAKER_09: No, I mean you're absolutely right.
34:41
SPEAKER_09: I mean, I I mean when we first started this back in the mid-90s, I would have loved nothing more than just be a working drummer.
34:50
SPEAKER_09: You know, go from gig to gig and do this and make music and play, you know, play me drums.
34:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:57
SPEAKER_09: That just is just not a reality.
34:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:01
SPEAKER_09: Some people get lucky and that's what they can do.
35:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:05
SPEAKER_09: But you can't do it.
35:06
SPEAKER_09: You can't you can't do that and be up here and you and be in a small a small place, a small community.
35:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:15
SPEAKER_09: Because it's just you just you just can't support yourself.
35:17
SPEAKER_02: That's why everybody goes to New York and Nashville.
35:19
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you gotta go to the big place.
35:20
SPEAKER_09: You gotta go to the cities.
35:21
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
35:22
SPEAKER_09: That's where you're gonna find gigs.
35:23
SPEAKER_09: Look at Josh.
35:24
SPEAKER_09: Josh had to go to Clareton, Nashville.
35:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:26
SPEAKER_09: Because you can literally gig there every freaking night.
35:30
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
35:30
SPEAKER_02: I just had uh who did we say who who just went to Nashville?
35:35
SPEAKER_02: We just talked to somebody that just went to Nashville.
35:37
SPEAKER_02: We did, yeah, or or she she came up and oh no, it was Ellen, um down at uh when we were playing on Friday.
35:45
SPEAKER_02: She says, We just went to Nashville for the first time.
35:49
SPEAKER_02: And I said, I've been there twice and I can't wait to go back.
35:51
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
35:52
SPEAKER_02: You know, and and when I went there, it was years ago.
35:54
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, it was in the late nineties.
35:55
SPEAKER_02: Well, late nineties of the first time, and the second time was like 2008, 2009, something like that.
36:00
SPEAKER_02: Was it Valley?
36:00
SPEAKER_02: I think so.
36:01
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
36:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
36:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:03
SPEAKER_02: Um But even in that time it's changed.
36:06
SPEAKER_02: Completely changed.
36:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm sure.
36:08
SPEAKER_02: So um but one of these days you and I should just pool our money together and surprise Joko.
36:16
SPEAKER_02: I would love to go hang out with Joko.
36:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh man, I wouldn't.
36:22
SPEAKER_02: We should conspire conspire with Allison and and make that happen.
36:27
SPEAKER_02: That would be amazing.
36:28
SPEAKER_01: Be like Josh, can you get that?
36:33
SPEAKER_01: You hope his door was standing there.
36:36
SPEAKER_01: No, you know what I'd do?
36:37
SPEAKER_01: What?
36:38
SPEAKER_02: If we knock on the door, I'd make sure that my phone was on and then send him a um a message on Facebook so that it would pop up ding.
36:46
SPEAKER_02: I'd say, Brett's done, spread stun.
36:49
SPEAKER_02: Wall check.
36:52
SPEAKER_09: He'd be like, what is going on?
36:54
SPEAKER_02: That would be funny.
36:55
SPEAKER_02: Uh I would, you know, we're not spoiling anything because he's not gonna listen to this podcast.
36:58
SPEAKER_09: No, he's not, yeah, he has no idea what we're saying.
37:00
SPEAKER_09: He has no idea.
37:02
SPEAKER_09: Um Josh is a farthead.
37:04
SPEAKER_09: See, you're not gonna know.
37:08
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, I just I don't know why I I got to thinking about that, but I thought, you know, I I bought those two albums and I was like, you know, there it's just it's just a gig.
37:19
SPEAKER_02: You know, they're just they're just trying to make money and and make a living.
37:23
SPEAKER_09: Well, yeah, it's part it's part of that, but it's a like you said, it's that creative drive.
37:27
SPEAKER_09: You gotta get it out.
37:28
SPEAKER_02: Right.
37:28
SPEAKER_02: You know, you got you know it's that's like uh for us though, I think to a large degree, like we didn't start Skinny Elvis to make money.
37:37
SPEAKER_09: No, because we haven't even had a gig.
37:39
SPEAKER_09: Right.
37:40
SPEAKER_01: You know, we we and I don't even think that But it's just something we want to do because we love making music.
37:46
SPEAKER_01: Right.
37:46
SPEAKER_01: I don't think I don't even think we thought about getting a gig.
37:51
SPEAKER_09: No, that that was never the point of Skinny Elvis.
37:53
SPEAKER_09: It was just like, hey, you guys want to play 90s music?
37:56
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
37:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let's do it.
37:57
SPEAKER_09: Why not?
37:58
SPEAKER_09: You know, there was there was no talk of like, hey, we we we're gonna play here and we're gonna play there.
38:03
SPEAKER_09: Oh, they want us to play here.
38:04
SPEAKER_09: There was none of that.
38:05
SPEAKER_09: It was just like, hey, let's get together and play like Foo Fighters.
38:08
SPEAKER_02: And that's the creative drive.
38:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:10
SPEAKER_02: And and and the love of music.
38:12
SPEAKER_02: And largely, actually not not largely, that's why we started the syndicate was for fun.
38:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:20
SPEAKER_01: And just an outlet.
38:22
SPEAKER_01: Well, even Krista said that he he wasn't even sure we would ever play.
38:25
SPEAKER_01: Right.
38:26
SPEAKER_01: And now we're going on what, eight years?
38:28
SPEAKER_01: Nine years?
38:28
SPEAKER_09: This will be our eighth year.
38:30
SPEAKER_09: Eighth year.
38:30
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
38:31
SPEAKER_09: I mean, we gig two, three times a month.
38:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:35
SPEAKER_09: During the summer.
38:36
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
38:36
SPEAKER_09: You know, so they're big and they're big gigs.
38:38
SPEAKER_09: And they're big gigs.
38:39
SPEAKER_09: Well, for big for up here, but for up here, yeah.
38:41
SPEAKER_02: You know.
38:42
SPEAKER_02: But yeah.
38:42
SPEAKER_02: I mean it's that's uh I don't know.
38:46
SPEAKER_09: It's just it's just music's just a funny, it's it's it's not something I would I would wish on anybody.
38:54
SPEAKER_09: But if you want to do it, you better do it.
38:56
SPEAKER_09: You gotta do it.
38:57
SPEAKER_02: Well it's not that I wouldn't wish I if you went if you did it for the right reasons, if you had if you if you went into it looking to make money, you're gonna be sadly disappointed.
39:10
SPEAKER_09: It's it's a fickle thing.
39:12
SPEAKER_02: But I would recommend it for anybody that loves music because it's it's a blast.
39:17
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
39:18
SPEAKER_09: I mean you can have if you get the right people you with the right attitudes, you you you can have fun.
39:23
SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
39:24
SPEAKER_09: And enjoy yourself.
39:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and you and you have that creative right, you know.
39:28
SPEAKER_09: And you're satisfying that creative itch.
39:30
SPEAKER_02: Right.
39:30
SPEAKER_02: You know, so exactly.
39:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, anyway.
39:34
SPEAKER_02: Um speaking of creative itches, um, did you see the um uh teaser?
39:41
SPEAKER_02: Because we're I'm moving on now to our Michael McDonald moment.
39:44
SPEAKER_02: All right, our mmm, um the teaser for Rick Biotto's interview.
39:50
SPEAKER_02: I did not see it.
39:51
SPEAKER_02: You did not?
39:51
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so I'm gonna play it.
39:52
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
39:53
SPEAKER_02: Uh it's very short, but I want to point something out as well.
39:57
SPEAKER_02: Um so the teaser is all over social media, but it's it's also on YouTube.
40:04
SPEAKER_09: So I'm just gonna play social media and YouTube.
40:07
SPEAKER_09: Isn't YouTube social media?
40:10
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
40:11
SPEAKER_08: I suppose.
40:13
SPEAKER_00: We did minute by minute.
40:15
SPEAKER_00: A lot of people say, well, that that's such a complicated piano.
40:18
SPEAKER_00: It's not really if you know where one is, it's just triplets.
40:46
SPEAKER_00: We did minute by minute.
40:48
SPEAKER_00: Right?
40:48
SPEAKER_00: That's just sex.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: I cannot wait for that interview.
40:52
SPEAKER_02: This is gonna be an awesome interview.
40:53
SPEAKER_02: I cannot wait for that interview.
40:55
SPEAKER_02: And so what I wanted to point out is Michael McDonald is wearing hokas.
41:02
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what that is.
41:04
SPEAKER_02: Well, I let's see, started wearing hokas a few years ago.
41:11
SPEAKER_02: They're sneakers.
41:12
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
41:13
SPEAKER_02: I have flat feet and I have foot problems.
41:17
SPEAKER_02: So much so that I went to a podiatrist or a foot surgeon or whatever, and he said you need to go get uh inserts.
41:28
SPEAKER_02: So you need to go to the um insert store.
41:33
SPEAKER_01: No, it's uh Walmart.
41:35
SPEAKER_02: No Walgreens.
41:37
SPEAKER_02: No, they mall.
41:38
SPEAKER_02: They make the they make the the prosthetic legs, Northern Prosthetics.
41:42
SPEAKER_02: Ah okay.
41:43
SPEAKER_02: So you got fake feet.
41:46
SPEAKER_02: Basically.
41:48
SPEAKER_02: So I could I have some feet?
41:50
SPEAKER_06: So I stepped in these things and he's sorry, I just okay.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: I'd like a foot and uh a new shoulder position.
42:02
SPEAKER_02: He made me inserts and he said, What do you wear for sneakers?
42:05
SPEAKER_02: And I said, uh Nike.
42:09
SPEAKER_02: He says, Oh no.
42:10
SPEAKER_02: No, you can't.
42:11
SPEAKER_02: No.
42:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh I highly recommend hokas.
42:14
SPEAKER_02: Hokas or Brooks, I think is what he said.
42:16
SPEAKER_02: I said, okay.
42:17
SPEAKER_02: So I got some hokas.
42:19
SPEAKER_02: Dude, I will never wear another sneaker.
42:22
SPEAKER_09: I've never heard of them.
42:23
SPEAKER_09: Have I seen you wear these things?
42:25
SPEAKER_02: This is all I wear.
42:26
SPEAKER_02: My black, my black sneakers, black and white sneakers.
42:28
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
42:29
SPEAKER_02: So uh so much so that uh I think I've been I think I've been wearing for well actually since since uh let's see, when did I 16, 17, 18?
42:42
SPEAKER_02: I started at the hospital in 2016.
42:45
SPEAKER_02: So it would have been 2017, 2018, I started wearing hokas.
42:50
SPEAKER_02: And so I've been wearing them for a long time now.
42:53
SPEAKER_02: I order a new pair almost every year.
42:56
SPEAKER_09: Can you get them around here or do you have to get them?
42:58
SPEAKER_02: You have to.
42:58
SPEAKER_02: Well, you used to be able to get them at Sleepers.
43:00
SPEAKER_02: Sleepers stop carrying them.
43:02
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
43:02
SPEAKER_02: I go to Bangor, like to Dick's.
43:05
SPEAKER_02: You guys carry Hoka?
43:06
SPEAKER_02: No, no, you gotta go to that store over on, you know, uh I can't remember what it's called.
43:12
SPEAKER_02: It's like an it's like a person's name.
43:14
SPEAKER_02: Steve.
43:15
SPEAKER_02: No.
43:15
SPEAKER_02: Well welloughby.
43:18
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, so I went to anybody known Wallaby.
43:21
SPEAKER_09: Hey Wallaby, where you know?
43:23
SPEAKER_09: None.
43:23
SPEAKER_09: So hanging out with Hoka.
43:26
SPEAKER_02: I went to this place and they had like a few of them on the on the wall.
43:30
SPEAKER_02: I said, Is this all you have for Hokas?
43:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we you know, we're running low.
43:33
SPEAKER_02: We have to special order them.
43:35
SPEAKER_02: And you know, so I I ordered them online, and I have because I have to have a wide foot.
43:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:41
SPEAKER_02: So I I ordered them special.
43:43
SPEAKER_02: It's just there's a thicker sole to it.
43:48
SPEAKER_02: And it's padded, and it just it just I feel like I'm floating.
43:52
SPEAKER_02: It's it's how do you spell Hoka?
43:55
SPEAKER_02: H O K A.
43:56
SPEAKER_02: Okay, Hoka.
43:57
SPEAKER_02: And my feet because I have a What what I think it's called Morton's toe.
44:03
SPEAKER_02: Uh underneath Chris know you have his toe.
44:06
SPEAKER_02: Underneath my right ring toe, there's nerve damage.
44:11
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
44:11
SPEAKER_02: Um and so if I don't wear the right sneaker or if I if I don't wear my inserts, that starts to bother me.
44:20
SPEAKER_02: So but when I have my inserts and I have the Hokus, don't even notice it.
44:26
SPEAKER_02: It's amazing.
44:27
SPEAKER_09: Do you have inserts and Hokus or just Hokus?
44:29
SPEAKER_02: I have the inserts in my Hokus.
44:31
SPEAKER_09: Oh, so you have these inserts already?
44:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:34
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
44:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I'm due for a new pair, because it's been a few years.
44:37
SPEAKER_02: So um and those aren't cheap.
44:39
SPEAKER_02: But uh I will never wear uh other sneakers besides Hokus.
44:43
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
44:44
SPEAKER_02: I order them all the time.
44:44
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, so I'm watching this thing, and look, they even they show his foot tapping, and it says right on his sneaker Hoka.
44:51
SPEAKER_02: And I have a there's a custodian at work.
44:53
SPEAKER_02: I noticed, I said, Oh, you got Hoka.
44:55
SPEAKER_02: She's like, I swear by 'em.
44:57
SPEAKER_02: I was like, yes.
44:58
SPEAKER_02: She's on her feet all the time.
44:59
SPEAKER_02: Oh, sure.
45:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
45:00
SPEAKER_02: And so I was like, yeah, definitely.
45:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
45:05
SPEAKER_02: And I, you know, I don't know where what are you wearing?
45:08
SPEAKER_02: Pumas.
45:08
SPEAKER_02: Pumas.
45:09
SPEAKER_02: I recommend Hoka.
45:11
SPEAKER_09: I really do.
45:12
SPEAKER_09: Well, I like these because they they're they're they're walking models.
45:17
SPEAKER_09: And they're padded.
45:19
SPEAKER_09: And they're very comfortable.
45:20
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
45:20
SPEAKER_02: So well You know, I have see because I keep and I keep all my old pair too.
45:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:27
SPEAKER_02: Even though I just wear the hell out of them.
45:29
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
45:29
SPEAKER_02: Um I keep 'em because I can always like if one gets worn out, I just take the inserts out, put them in another one, and um I should let you what size do you take?
45:41
SPEAKER_01: Nine and a half.
45:42
SPEAKER_02: No, mine are too big.
45:43
SPEAKER_01: No, I'm just kidding.
45:44
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
45:44
SPEAKER_01: I don't they're eleven.
45:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what mine are.
45:47
SPEAKER_01: Okay, maybe I'll maybe I'll let you borrow a pair.
45:49
SPEAKER_02: Actually, no, no, because you it's they're used.
45:51
SPEAKER_02: So they're the Yeah, I'm not gonna get the full effect.
45:53
SPEAKER_02: You're not gonna get the full effect.
45:54
SPEAKER_02: So I should I I'll you know what?
45:56
SPEAKER_09: I'll I'll just uh at some point I'll order a pair of hokas.
45:59
SPEAKER_09: Do it and then we and then we can have a hoka party.
46:04
SPEAKER_09: We'll hoka around hoka around the old oak tree.
46:11
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm glad I could hoka you up.
46:13
SPEAKER_01: Hokka.
46:14
SPEAKER_01: Hey, you wanna hoka up?
46:19
SPEAKER_01: It's my new pickup line.
46:22
SPEAKER_01: Hey baby, you wanna hoka up?
46:24
SPEAKER_01: She's been there, what?
46:25
SPEAKER_01: Only if she's wearing hokus, right?
46:26
SPEAKER_01: Hey, I see you're you're wearing the Hey, why don't you come to my creepy van?
46:30
SPEAKER_09: I have some hokus.
46:32
SPEAKER_02: I will hoka you up.
46:34
SPEAKER_02: I'll hoke you up.
46:38
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
46:39
SPEAKER_02: Oh goodness.
46:40
SPEAKER_02: On that note, uh, let's take a break and we'll come back.
46:43
SPEAKER_02: We'll climb the wall of tunes, and we'll hear our No, no, no.
46:50
SPEAKER_09: It's just our regular we don't have a bonus beetle sling.
46:52
SPEAKER_09: Well, actually, I do have a bonus beetle sling.
46:54
SPEAKER_09: If we if we want to talk about it.
46:56
SPEAKER_09: Well, yeah, of course we do.
46:57
SPEAKER_09: It was uh it's a it's a story about Buddy Rich.
47:01
SPEAKER_09: Save it for the No, I I'm giving you a preview.
47:03
SPEAKER_09: Oh, okay, go ahead.
47:04
SPEAKER_09: It's Buddy Rich um talking down about Ringo.
47:09
SPEAKER_09: So Oh.
47:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
47:10
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I want to hear that.
47:12
SPEAKER_09: Well, it's it's not that bad, actually.
47:14
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
47:14
SPEAKER_02: All right.
47:14
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48:10
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48:14
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48:20
SPEAKER_03: Now it's time to climb that wall of tunes with the two guys with stern gazes and folded arms, O'Brien and Doug.
48:28
SPEAKER_02: And we're back.
48:29
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna climb the wall of tunes, but before we do that, uh let's do our bonus Beatles bit because uh you're about to read from the book.
48:38
SPEAKER_09: Well, here's the book.
48:39
SPEAKER_09: I got the book out.
48:40
SPEAKER_02: A Hard Days Right by Stephen Turner.
48:42
SPEAKER_02: By Stephen Turner.
48:43
SPEAKER_09: Well, I don't know if it's Stephen, I assume it is.
48:46
SPEAKER_09: I wrote a book.
48:47
SPEAKER_02: Steve Turner.
48:48
SPEAKER_02: Steve Turner.
48:49
SPEAKER_02: So before before I start climbing the wall, I want to hear this bonus.
48:53
SPEAKER_09: Okay, so anyway, uh the the the article's called The Moment Buddy Rich Heavily Criticized Ringo Star's Drumming.
49:01
SPEAKER_09: Now, if you don't know who Buddy Rich is, um you should probably just go and go home.
49:06
SPEAKER_02: Arguably, arguably.
49:07
SPEAKER_09: Arguably one of the greatest drummers who've ever lived.
49:10
SPEAKER_09: Right.
49:10
SPEAKER_09: So if you don't know who Buddy Rich, go is go look out.
49:13
SPEAKER_09: He's amazing.
49:14
SPEAKER_09: But anyway, uh so I was reading this article and it's like, oh, you know, because I love Buddy Rich and I love Ringo.
49:20
SPEAKER_09: And I was like, I can't believe but I can actually believe it because Buddy Rich was known as kind of a hothead.
49:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:27
SPEAKER_09: He had a long, long time like feud with Sinatra.
49:32
SPEAKER_09: Really?
49:32
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
49:33
SPEAKER_09: Oh, I didn't know that.
49:34
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, they were like, you know, fisti-cuffs kind of thing, you know, but yeah.
49:37
SPEAKER_09: But anyway.
49:39
SPEAKER_09: So um basically it was like, you know, everybody, everybody a lot of people over the years have been like, oh, Ring Ring Ringo's the weakest one of the Beatles.
49:48
SPEAKER_08: Right.
49:50
SPEAKER_09: Arguably, maybe.
49:52
SPEAKER_09: I mean, you know, you got John, you got McCartney, you got Harrison.
49:56
SPEAKER_09: I mean, yeah.
49:57
SPEAKER_09: Right.
49:57
SPEAKER_09: Songwriting wise, yeah.
49:59
SPEAKER_09: I mean, but he was never known, you know, they didn't they didn't hire him to be a songwriter.
50:05
SPEAKER_09: They hired him because he was a great drummer.
50:08
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
50:08
SPEAKER_09: He was arguably the best drummer in Liverpool.
50:11
unknown: Yeah.
50:11
SPEAKER_09: And they stole him from another band.
50:13
SPEAKER_02: Always in the pocket.
50:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
50:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
50:14
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's he's a great, he's a great pocket drummer.
50:17
SPEAKER_02: I might say that he was one of the he was the one that held them all together.
50:20
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
50:21
SPEAKER_09: Well, this this is what McCartney said.
50:23
SPEAKER_09: Uh the first few minutes that Ringo was playing, I looked to the left at George and the right at John, and we didn't say a word, but I remember thinking, this is amazing.
50:32
SPEAKER_09: That was his first that's the first time they played with Ringo.
50:34
SPEAKER_09: So uh and of course, Ringo's inspired everybody.
50:38
SPEAKER_09: I mean, Dave Grohl is a huge Ringo fan.
50:41
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
50:41
SPEAKER_09: You know, so that's the thing.
50:43
SPEAKER_09: Um because Ring uh Dave Grohl said, Define the best drummer in the world.
50:47
SPEAKER_09: Is it someone technically savvy, or is it somebody who sits in the song and expresses themselves?
50:52
SPEAKER_09: Ringo was the king of emotion.
50:55
SPEAKER_09: And you can't argue with that.
50:56
SPEAKER_09: He definitely was.
50:58
SPEAKER_09: Okay, so this is where Buddy Rich.
51:00
SPEAKER_09: Okay, so Buddy Rich, you know, he's a he's a he's a talker, blah blah blah.
51:04
SPEAKER_09: He's always whatever.
51:06
SPEAKER_09: This was what Buddy Rich said about Ringo.
51:08
SPEAKER_09: Ringo's Star was adequate.
51:10
SPEAKER_09: That's all there is to it.
51:15
SPEAKER_02: Well I guess try and put a positive spin on it, but here's what Quincy Jones said.
51:27
SPEAKER_09: He's talking about the Beatles.
51:29
SPEAKER_09: They're the worst musicians in the world.
51:30
SPEAKER_09: They were a bunch of scumbags.
51:36
SPEAKER_02: Quincy Jones said that he did.
51:39
SPEAKER_09: But yeah, I I said that there was interesting.
51:42
SPEAKER_01: He said they were scumbags?
51:43
SPEAKER_01: Scumbags, yeah.
51:47
SPEAKER_09: I mean, that's kind of uh you know.
51:51
SPEAKER_09: But this is uh, so uh so he's talking to so this is the journalist who's talking to Paul McCartney.
51:57
SPEAKER_09: And so they get this phone call.
52:02
SPEAKER_09: Is this Paul is this Mr.
52:04
SPEAKER_09: McCartney?
52:04
SPEAKER_09: McCartney explained.
52:05
SPEAKER_09: Yes, Quincy wants to speak to you.
52:08
SPEAKER_09: Although he's always worked through security.
52:10
SPEAKER_09: Hey Quince, I exclaimed, how you do how you doing, Paul?
52:13
SPEAKER_09: I'm fine, how are you, mother effer?
52:15
SPEAKER_09: I'm just about to go along with him.
52:16
SPEAKER_09: Paul, I didn't say that.
52:18
SPEAKER_09: I'm not sure what happened, guy.
52:19
SPEAKER_09: So apparently Quincy Jones didn't say that.
52:22
SPEAKER_09: So but anyway.
52:25
SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
52:29
SPEAKER_09: Uh but yeah.
52:31
SPEAKER_09: I just you know.
52:32
SPEAKER_09: It is what it is.
52:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
52:36
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
52:36
SPEAKER_09: But Ringo did call Buddy Rich a jerk.
52:41
SPEAKER_09: So you know, but I mean Why are you gonna be like that?
52:45
SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
52:46
SPEAKER_09: I mean, it's it's it's I mean, I suppose if you know Buddy Rich, he was pretty he was a hothead.
52:51
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, as uh as a uh as a drummer.
52:54
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
52:55
SPEAKER_09: But I I think that was part of his that was part of his genius.
52:58
SPEAKER_09: He was just uh I mean the dude had a heart attack while playing the drums finished the drums and then went to the hospital.
53:05
SPEAKER_02: Oh I didn't know that.
53:05
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
53:06
SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
53:07
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, so you know.
53:12
SPEAKER_09: No, I mean he's he's just he's just that's just who he was.
53:15
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
53:15
SPEAKER_09: You know, he was just you know, just you know, straight ahead forward.
53:19
SPEAKER_09: I mean he was like the I don't know.
53:23
SPEAKER_09: You know, as as as drummers go, that's why everybody everybody's like, oh buddy Rich, you know, he just you know, technically profession and just like hard headed.
53:32
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know, he's one tough SOB, you know what I mean?
53:35
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
53:36
SPEAKER_09: So I don't know.
53:37
SPEAKER_09: I just thought that was interesting.
53:38
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
53:39
SPEAKER_09: But I mean it wasn't really that bad.
53:40
SPEAKER_09: I mean, he's adequate.
53:42
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
53:42
SPEAKER_09: I'd I'd go for adequate.
53:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right?
53:44
SPEAKER_01: You know.
53:45
SPEAKER_01: In the Beatles?
53:45
SPEAKER_09: Come on.
53:46
SPEAKER_09: In the Beatles, yeah.
53:47
SPEAKER_09: I mean, come on, man.
53:48
SPEAKER_01: Dude! Uh read from Steve's book.
53:50
SPEAKER_01: Steve, I'm gonna read from your book, Steve.
53:52
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna I'm gonna climb the wall as you're reading.
53:54
SPEAKER_09: All right, we're gonna be.
53:55
SPEAKER_09: You don't have a song yet, I haven't even picked yet.
53:58
SPEAKER_09: Let's see.
54:07
SPEAKER_09: Okay, here's a here's a here's interesting.
54:09
SPEAKER_09: It's from the White Album.
54:11
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
54:12
SPEAKER_09: Wild Honey Pie.
54:15
SPEAKER_09: Not my favorite song.
54:16
SPEAKER_09: No, not mine either.
54:18
SPEAKER_09: The shortest and most repetitive of any Beatles lyric, Wild Honey Pie, emerged from a spontaneous sing-along in Rishkakesh when they were uh hanging out with the guru there.
54:31
SPEAKER_09: It was just a fragment of an instrumental which we were not sure about, said Paul, but Patty Harrison liked it very much, so he decided to leave it on the album.
54:39
SPEAKER_09: Coincidentally, Mike Love of the Beat of the Beach Boys had recently co-written a Beach Boys track entitled Wild Honey.
54:49
SPEAKER_09: That's it.
54:50
SPEAKER_01: That's it?
54:51
SPEAKER_09: That's it.
54:51
SPEAKER_09: Well, it is the shortest song, and I know.
54:53
SPEAKER_09: Well, that's true.
54:54
SPEAKER_01: So that's true.
54:55
SPEAKER_09: Not much to talk about there.
54:57
SPEAKER_09: Did you get an album or do you want me to read another one?
55:00
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I did.
55:01
SPEAKER_02: I got one.
55:01
SPEAKER_09: Well, look at you, aren't you?
55:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't know why this one is up here.
55:06
SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know if that gives you any hints, but uh this one isn't supposed to be up here.
55:11
SPEAKER_06: That's what we're doing.
55:12
SPEAKER_02: No.
55:12
SPEAKER_02: But I'll just leave it at that.
55:14
SPEAKER_02: So I have an album.
55:15
SPEAKER_02: Alright.
55:16
SPEAKER_02: Let the guessing begin.
55:17
SPEAKER_02: Is it a band?
55:18
SPEAKER_02: No.
55:19
SPEAKER_02: Is it a solo?
55:20
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
55:20
SPEAKER_09: Guy?
55:21
SPEAKER_09: Yes.
55:25
SPEAKER_01: No.
55:28
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
55:28
SPEAKER_01: Oh, church?
55:29
SPEAKER_01: That's an interesting guess.
55:33
SPEAKER_01: That's my mom's favorite.
55:34
SPEAKER_09: Oh my god, she's Eddie Rabbit.
55:37
SPEAKER_09: Nope.
55:37
SPEAKER_09: Nope.
55:39
SPEAKER_09: Nope.
55:41
SPEAKER_09: Classical guy?
55:42
SPEAKER_09: Nope.
55:43
SPEAKER_09: Jazz?
55:44
SPEAKER_09: Nope.
55:44
SPEAKER_09: Pop?
55:45
SPEAKER_09: Nope.
55:47
SPEAKER_01: Ska?
55:48
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
55:51
SPEAKER_01: What is Eric Church?
55:54
SPEAKER_01: Country?
55:54
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
55:54
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's always country.
55:56
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
55:57
SPEAKER_09: Is that why he's not supposed to be up there?
55:59
SPEAKER_09: Right.
56:00
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
56:01
SPEAKER_09: Is it like the class of 89 kind of guy?
56:04
SPEAKER_02: Uh no.
56:05
SPEAKER_09: No?
56:05
SPEAKER_02: No.
56:05
SPEAKER_09: Before or after that?
56:06
SPEAKER_02: After.
56:07
SPEAKER_09: After.
56:08
SPEAKER_02: Big Van Halen fan.
56:10
SPEAKER_02: Garth Brooks.
56:11
SPEAKER_02: No.
56:13
SPEAKER_09: Big Van Halen?
56:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:17
SPEAKER_09: Brad Paisley?
56:18
SPEAKER_09: Yes.
56:19
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
56:20
SPEAKER_09: There we go.
56:21
SPEAKER_02: Have you ever seen him play Hopper Teacher?
56:23
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
56:24
SPEAKER_02: He's great.
56:24
SPEAKER_02: Oh my word.
56:25
SPEAKER_02: Um this is arguably my favorite Brad Paisley album.
56:32
SPEAKER_02: I think.
56:33
SPEAKER_02: It's right up there.
56:34
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
56:35
SPEAKER_02: Um actually no.
56:38
SPEAKER_02: It's probably number two.
56:40
SPEAKER_02: Alright.
56:42
SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
56:43
SPEAKER_02: Fifth gear.
56:43
SPEAKER_09: Fifth gear, that's a great album.
56:45
SPEAKER_09: That's a lot of instrumentals and stuff on there.
56:47
SPEAKER_02: He usually well.
56:48
SPEAKER_02: No, which one am I thinking of?
56:49
SPEAKER_02: No, no, he doesn't have a lot of instrumentals on this one.
56:52
SPEAKER_02: He usually puts an instrumental on every album.
56:54
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, but no, there was one that uh what was it called?
56:56
SPEAKER_09: Oh, play.
56:57
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
56:58
SPEAKER_09: I was thinking that's what I was confused about.
56:59
SPEAKER_02: Well, it kind of looks like the cover, right?
57:00
SPEAKER_02: It does a little bit, yeah.
57:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
57:02
SPEAKER_02: But no, this one, this one has some great songs.
57:05
SPEAKER_02: This one has a song that we sing all the time.
57:08
SPEAKER_02: Um, or we ref we reference all the time.
57:10
SPEAKER_02: But let me go through the hit songs that he's had.
57:12
SPEAKER_02: No, no, I just want to play this one first because I love this one.
57:17
SPEAKER_09: Is this text?
57:19
SPEAKER_09: It is.
57:48
SPEAKER_04: You press that bottle to your lips.
57:54
SPEAKER_02: And now it's tower your beard.
57:57
SPEAKER_02: See the thing about this is I don't want to talk over it because you're gonna lyrics a lot.
58:03
SPEAKER_02: Right, the lyrics are so important.
58:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
58:07
SPEAKER_04: And small there.
58:17
SPEAKER_04: I'd like to see the other hat.
58:58
SPEAKER_02: I mean, come on.
58:59
SPEAKER_09: That's that's the brilliance of Brad Paisley.
59:02
SPEAKER_09: Well, he writes he writes a story song.
59:05
SPEAKER_09: His wordplay is amazing, and it's hilarious.
59:09
SPEAKER_02: Now keep in mind that he writes with other people.
59:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
59:13
SPEAKER_02: So it's not all him, but he definitely has a style.
59:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
59:19
SPEAKER_02: You know, he definitely has a sound.
59:21
SPEAKER_02: I want to see if he he had to have something to do with that song.
59:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he did.
59:25
SPEAKER_02: Him and two other guys.
59:27
SPEAKER_02: Actually, he's he co-writes most of his stuff.
59:30
SPEAKER_02: So um you're right.
59:31
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he he he definitely has you know it's a Brad Paisley song.
59:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
59:35
SPEAKER_02: Um here's an obvious case.
59:38
SPEAKER_02: This was a big hit.
59:40
SPEAKER_02: Online.
59:41
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah, this was a great song.
59:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
59:43
SPEAKER_02: Um I'll just play a piece of it.
59:47
SPEAKER_02: I think everybody knows the song.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_04: I work down at the beats.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_04: I drive an old hunted.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_04: I do it with my under.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_04: I put the whole way.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_04: I put it out at the second face on the beat, beautiful, I welded round, and I love a good glass wine.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_02: See, I that's the thing.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_02: You can't talk over his songs.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_02: Because you're gonna miss something.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_02: But he and I also think that he has carved his place in the upper echelon of guitar playing artists.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_02: You got Vince Gill, Keith Urban, Brad Paisley, Steve Warner, you know, these are all artists, singer-songwriter artists.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_09: Matter of fact, I'd put him up against any guitar player.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:01:15
SPEAKER_02: Any genre.
1:01:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I agree.
1:01:16
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
1:01:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I agree.
1:01:18
SPEAKER_02: Um this one here.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_02: If I could write a letter to me, send it to myself back when I was 17.
1:01:26
SPEAKER_02: Amazing.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_02: Amazing.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_02: But that was a hit song to him, too.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna play that.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna play the hit songs.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_02: I want to play the songs that you don't know from this album if you don't if you don't have it.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_01: Like this one.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_02: Um, that was one that's our plate.
1:03:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_02: Um that's one that my kids we used to put that on in the kitchen.
1:03:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:03:07
SPEAKER_02: When my kids were little, and they would just dance around the kitchen to that song.
1:03:11
SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah, you can't help it, man.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_02: Can't help it.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna play one more from this album.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_02: Uh, the whole album is fantastic.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's great.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_02: Um, his best.
1:03:19
SPEAKER_02: I want to play one more, and this is the one I think that we refer to all the time.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_02: Um don't we bring this one?
1:03:30
SPEAKER_02: We bring this one up every once in a while.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_04: Do we?
1:03:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_04: Like sleepy little campfire.
1:03:36
SPEAKER_04: I do love this box.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_04: We're eating up the pork and beats.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_04: Upstead man, don't get any better than this.
1:03:45
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
1:04:30
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it's a great song.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_09: Uh the whole album and and I just I love that chorus because every every it he changes the words, you know, slightly.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_09: Every one.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_02: Emerald Emerald Legas.
1:04:39
SPEAKER_02: No, is it Emerald Gassi?
1:04:41
SPEAKER_09: Emerald Gassi, but shows up with Kabasi.
1:04:44
SPEAKER_09: But it's always a hundred gallon gigabier.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_09: Right.
1:04:47
SPEAKER_09: Always, always.
1:04:48
SPEAKER_02: Always, always.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_09: Um I thought you were gonna play that uh what was that song?
1:04:52
SPEAKER_09: I can't even remember what album it was off of uh talking about um playing in a band, getting to play in a band.
1:05:01
SPEAKER_09: Oh, that's from the play album.
1:05:03
SPEAKER_09: Is that from the play album?
1:05:05
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I can uh play a piece of that.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_09: Hold on a second here.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_09: Because um kind of talked about what everybody was doing before they became a side.
1:05:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he he he put out a um instrumental album that had one or two songs that actually had um oh, I don't have it in here.
1:05:23
SPEAKER_09: Oh no, no, I just I I thought that's what you start a band.
1:05:25
SPEAKER_09: Start a band, that's it.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_02: It's with Keith Urban.
1:05:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right?
1:05:27
SPEAKER_02: It was a duet with Keith Urban.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_02: And this is such a true song, right?
1:05:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think so.
1:05:35
SPEAKER_02: I think that's what you're talking about.
1:06:20
SPEAKER_09: Oh no, I know exactly what I'm talking about.
1:06:22
SPEAKER_09: You know which one I'm talking about.
1:06:23
SPEAKER_02: Yes, I know exactly which one I'm talking about.
1:06:25
SPEAKER_02: Can't think of the name of it though.
1:06:28
SPEAKER_02: I will tell you.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_02: It is.
1:06:31
SPEAKER_02: It's not on fifth gear.
1:06:32
SPEAKER_02: It's not on wheelhouse.
1:06:33
SPEAKER_02: It's on time well wasted, I think.
1:06:35
SPEAKER_02: Uh easy money.
1:06:37
SPEAKER_09: Easy money, yes.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_09: That yes.
1:06:41
SPEAKER_01: This is easily my favorite Brad Paisley song.
1:06:44
SPEAKER_01: It's right up there for me, too.
1:06:53
SPEAKER_02: Obviously he has a style.
1:06:55
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
1:06:55
SPEAKER_02: I mean you could tell.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_09: You could tell Brad Paisley's gone from my way.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_04: I remember working on the rooftop.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_04: Now I work too hard tonight.
1:07:11
SPEAKER_04: It feels a lot more like play.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_04: You have to wait to the back.
1:07:45
SPEAKER_04: Paycheck.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_09: My favorite line is later on, like towards the end of the song, where he's talking about this girl that uh said he wasn't gonna make it, right?
1:07:56
SPEAKER_01: It's just brilliant.
1:07:57
SPEAKER_01: I like that one.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_01: Paycheck, middle man.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_09: Right there, this one, yeah.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about now.
1:08:22
SPEAKER_04: You ought to get a real job.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_04: Why don't you quit that band?
1:08:26
SPEAKER_04: Now she can kiss my backstage past.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_04: I'll put laughing.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, good stuff.
1:08:33
SPEAKER_09: That is my that's why that's my favorite Brad Paisley song.
1:08:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I um Yeah, he I was gonna say he could do no wrong.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_02: He put out a couple sticker albums.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_02: Uh Wheelhouse wasn't that good.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, there were some good moments, obviously.
1:08:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_02: Um let's see.
1:08:49
SPEAKER_02: I have Wheelhouse up right here.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_02: Beat the Summer was a good song.
1:08:53
SPEAKER_02: Southern Comfort Zone was a good song.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_02: Uh the rest of them were just kind of Yeah, they're just kind of yeah.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_09: And the one before that.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_02: Moonshine.
1:09:01
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, that wasn't a really great album.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_09: Because he had like that was the one he had with he had a song with LL Cool J and uh No, that was no, that was uh Wheelhouse.
1:09:09
SPEAKER_09: Was that Wheelhouse too?
1:09:10
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, okay, alright.
1:09:11
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, with accidental racist and just a lot of songs in there, just kind of like reaching a little bit.
1:09:17
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it was just kind of like, you know, not his best stuff.
1:09:20
SPEAKER_02: Moonshine in the Trunk had a couple good songs.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, but it was that also wasn't a really great uh Crushing It?
1:09:27
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, this was good.
1:09:28
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
1:09:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:09:35
SPEAKER_02: But you know, that that notwithstanding, Brad Paisley right up there.
1:09:40
SPEAKER_02: Oh, dude, I'll saw him live um in Bangor, actually.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's right, you did.
1:09:45
SPEAKER_02: Um and yeah, just amazing.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_02: Good stuff, good stuff.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_02: Brad's amazing.
1:09:50
SPEAKER_02: Go see him again in a heartbeat.
1:09:53
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
1:09:53
SPEAKER_02: Episode 185.
1:09:55
SPEAKER_02: In the books.
1:09:56
SPEAKER_02: Alright.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_02: What does that sound like?
1:10:10
SPEAKER_02: What is that?
1:10:15
SPEAKER_02: Is that a cartoon character?
1:10:16
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_09: Kind of reminds me of those uh old guys that used to hang out, Marshall.
1:10:22
SPEAKER_09: Willard and uh Fred and Willard?
1:10:25
SPEAKER_02: Fred and Willard?
1:10:26
SPEAKER_02: Uh there's an actor named Fred Willard.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_09: No, no, no.
1:10:29
SPEAKER_09: What was their name?
1:10:30
SPEAKER_09: They were brothers and they were kinda uh Dad does a really good impression.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you know who it sounded like was um the uh she was on I think she was on night court, and she was also on My Two Dads.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_02: Do you remember the judge and my two dads?
1:10:50
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:10:50
SPEAKER_02: I think she was on Night Court too.
1:10:52
SPEAKER_02: I can't remember her name.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_02: But she talked, that's the way she talked.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_09: When we were kids, the only thing we we liked about My Two Dads was the girl.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_02: True.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_09: You know, everybody had a crush on her.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know.
1:11:03
SPEAKER_02: It was a funny show, though.
1:11:04
SPEAKER_02: It was a good show, yeah.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was a pretty good show.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_02: Paul Riser, yeah.
1:11:07
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:11:08
SPEAKER_02: Um we should talk about that sometime.
1:11:11
SPEAKER_02: We did that once before.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, we did that with Jack.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_02: 80s movies.
1:11:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:11:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:11:14
SPEAKER_02: Did we do shows, TV shows?
1:11:15
SPEAKER_09: I don't think well we might have drifted in that territory, but you know, because that's where, you know, that's where you you roll with Jack, you know, that's where you go.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you never know where you're on.
1:11:25
SPEAKER_02: That's true.
1:11:25
SPEAKER_02: We gotta get him back on there.
1:11:26
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I miss Jack.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_02: You know, I I can we keep saying that.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna have this my my old friend on to talk about guns and roses.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna have Jack on.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna have Shane on, but I don't make the phone calls or or text anybody because I'm it's open.
1:11:43
SPEAKER_09: Well, eventually it'll just happen.
1:11:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:11:47
SPEAKER_02: We'll figure it out.
1:11:48
SPEAKER_09: It's not like we're going anywhere.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_09: No, I'm depressed.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm just kidding.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_02: Alright, that's episode 185.
1:11:54
SPEAKER_09: Well, you you got out of that depression.
1:11:57
SPEAKER_09: No, look at me, I'm fine.
1:12:01
SPEAKER_01: Top of the world.
1:12:04
SPEAKER_01: Alright, until next time, I'm O'Brien.
1:12:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm still Doug.
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