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Brett Keane Naked Ghosts, Lesbian Adoption, Suffering Evil, OSAS, Faith Without Works is Dead · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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  Give me. Hey, what are you doing?
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  This is Brett Keen from God TV radio.
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  I hope you're all having a wonderful day.
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  Anyone wants to join the show. The link is put out in the
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  public eye was you have to do, is have a microphone and the
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  technological ability to click a link.
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  How about that? Luckily the Catholics have
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  learned how to adapt. Because here's my one of my
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  favorite people in the whole wide world.
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  Are you doing? How's it going, Brad?
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  What's up? Just been making videos as
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  you've noticed. if they seen your comment and give you an old
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  man who ran out of time, quote, Yeah, I noticed you've been
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  putting out a lot of stuff, but it seems like a lot has been
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  happening in your life with with the Kent Ridiculousness, and
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  then TJ Crawling Back to You on his hands and knees asking you
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  to come back on the show. After all these years, I think
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  that is so funny. The timings kind of odd to I
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  mean, just shortly after I have my fall out with Matt and Kent.
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  All of a sudden you know, I'm getting thrown these ideas.
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  Orn to that show and I have no idea how that's going to turn
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  out. I don't know.
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  I do know that I went over to Twitter just recently and
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  tweeted the TJ. Kirk, The Amazing Atheist and
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  asked him if he would like to join me on the live show tonight
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  and tell me what's up. What his ideas are see if it'll
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  actually show. Who knows though?
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  He might be hanging out in the gutter somewhere, trying to find
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  him some rat burgers or something like that.
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  So we'll see. I doubt he'll show.
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  I think he, I think he likes to be in control of where he
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  appears on the internet. I don't think he would show up
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  in someone else's room but any power.
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  Well, he did. Once a long long time ago
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  whenever I was doing that DP crap, he was willing to do an
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  interview with me. I don't know if you ever seen
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  that old interview. I did I did watch that it was
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  funny because I had stopped watching their show at that
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  time. But I did, I did see the
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  interview because I was still subscribed to your channel.
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  So as you can see, whenever he was on my format, he was treated
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  nicely and with respect and all that, but sometimes it's not the
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  other way around with folks, you know how it is.
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  Yeah, he is. I mean would you, would you go
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  back on the show without any payment?
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  Well, of course not. Why would I do that for right?
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  Exactly. Because that's what I soon as I
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  saw your video talking about them, asking you back on the
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  show, I was like, you better not go in this if he doesn't get
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  something out of it because they're just going to rip it
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  apart for. I mean, I know you've been
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  talking about they want to make amends and maybe there'd be, you
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  know, some kind of healing or Kumbaya but I don't.
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  I mean, what imagine like the crow eating they would have to
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  do to really come to peace. I just I just don't see.
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  It happening. Looks like we got a visitor.
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  Let's put up The Old Demon blocker.
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  Let's see what we got real quick water, can you still hear me?
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  Yeah, what's up? Okay.
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  Hello hacks. What's your story?
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  Hacks. All right so you don't I guess
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  you don't know. Good, can you hear me?
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  Yeah. What's going on there hacks?
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  Hacks. What you story?
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  A little bit of a delay. Sorry about that.
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  This is there a way I can fix this delay?
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  That I'm happen. Yeah, you have to take out the
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  outside broadcast and only listen to the audio inside.
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  Okay, well when you figure out how to fix your stuff, get back
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  with me cuz you just holding up progress.
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  All right, I'm back let's see. All right.
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  Can you hear me? Their water and then he dip, I
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  bet I bet I bet a couple of TJ's fans might be popping in tonight
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  given that they're talking about you again.
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  Well, they can show up if they want to as long as they behave
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  themselves to be able to hang out just like before But yeah,
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  as far as the show goes, I don't even think TJ makes enough
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  money. I mean, did you see the latest
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  video that he did are not the main Channel?
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  He actually went after a movie reviewer, just because the guy
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  doesn't like the woke message and television shows and movies.
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  Nowadays doesn't like what they're doing with the heroes.
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  I mean, right off the bat, he goes after critical Drinker.
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  Do you know who that guy is? I have never heard of them.
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  Critical drinkers basically I think he's Australian or
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  something, he drinks, alcohol. And then he puts all these clips
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  on the video and he talks about how he thinks that the writing
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  was poor. Terrible blah, blah blah and
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  every one of the shows and movies.
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  He's done reviews about have been absolutely terrible like
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  she Hawk, I don't know if you seen that monstrosity, that
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  Abomination for television, but he went after that, he went
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  after the Lord of the Rings told.
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  Asian so so far I've never seen a video by critical Drinker that
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  I could insult or attack. It's all funny, it's all
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  hilarious. And he says, what everybody else
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  is basically feeling about what's going on with TV
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  nowadays, I mean, TJ chases views.
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  I mean is, is this critical Drinker guy?
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  Pretty popular. Oh yeah, the guy super popular I
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  under there you go. I know the TJ goes after Jordan
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  Peterson, who is one of the most intellectual guys in the world.
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  I, you know, I told TJ long time ago instead of making videos
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  where you bash the shit out of somebody, why don't you just
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  send them an email or a message and say you'd like to have them
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  on the show or something like that and you'd like to No, share
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  views and ideas. When you go after somebody like
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  Jordan Peterson, our bench pierrot.
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  Then I can take you seriously, especially if you got a bunch of
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  slop on your face, what's with the makeup?
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  Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I think he should grow up.
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  I would I would say though. I mean like you're actually
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  making a really good point because the one thing you can
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  say about TJ is that even though it's not really true anymore at
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  one point he was a big deal on YouTube and he was a big deal
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  for a long time and he was kind of like a slow Ascent to the
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  top. Like he he didn't hit a million
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  super fast like some of these other people do.
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  He took years and years and years and years to get there and
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  I think a lot of people on YouTube know of him and even if
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  they don't pay attention to him anymore, he was relevant at one
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  point. I think if he did reach out to
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  people and say, Hey, you get to talk to the Amazing Atheist.
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  I can, we can have a little discussion disagree about
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  things. I think a lot of people would
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  say, yes, I don't know why he doesn't do that.
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  Well, I don't know if you realize this but he's not a
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  million subscribers in anymore. He's lost like 40 to 50 thousand
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  subs. And a lot of people, if you go
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  looking around on Google argue that many of us Subs, the
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  majority of them are based upon. I don't know if you knew this
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  water, but did you know that you can go to different Asian
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  websites, and pay money. And the Asians will actually
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  come to your channel if you pay them enough.
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  They'll just subscribe over and over with He many different
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  accounts the like up your videos and do all that kind of stuff
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  and I think that's what we're seeing here.
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  I think that TJ's one of the reasons why you got hit so hard
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  is because if you don't if the YouTube channels that are
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  subscribed you do not make content or make a comment and
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  like three months time, then the account gets closed out that's
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  YouTube's terms of service. That's one of their new things
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  that they put in there and that's why he's Basically
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  leaking subscribers because these Asians are not going to
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  return and try to work a million subscribers, you understand?
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  No, I do. It doesn't, it doesn't surprise
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  me. It was pretty, like,
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  humiliating, I mean, not for me, but I mean, like, I got second
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  hand embarrassment over the years, kind of, not really,
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  paying attention to him, but popping in every now and then
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  and just watching his subscriber, count, fall, and
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  fall, and fall and fall. 50,000, never seen it before wooof.
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  That's rough. You know, that's some big time.
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  Let's see what we got here. Mr. Hacks, how are you doing?
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  Did you get your delay fixed? I think so.
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  Maybe okay, so hacks. What is your story?
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  What is your theological position on political
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  disposition? Alright, very exciting.
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  Mr. Hacks go fix your equipment. Wow.
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  Wow. Okay, so folks, I'm going to set
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  it to where people have to, in order to log in.
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  You'll have to log in using your actual YouTube channel in order
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  to get em. Now, I'm not just going to let
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  anybody come in here cuz they just waste my time and I do not
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  have the time to be giving tech support especially when I'm not
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  being paid for it. Come on folks and make tutorial
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  videos lots of mmm. Why don't you watch your
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  patreon? Well, I did have a patreon a
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  while back but someone else actually created and set it up
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  and they were supposed to be in control of it, but that person's
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  had a lot of personal issues. So I decided to directly go
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  through and the patreons. All ran by me the new page.
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  You can see that the patreon address is different than the
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  other one. You got me success yet.
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  Well, I got one supporter. I've got a few people who say
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  that, when they get some money, they'll support me and all that.
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  We'll see what happens on that. Ain't gonna hold my breath.
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  There's obviously no obligations for people to help out if they
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  don't want to or they can't. I'm going to keep doing videos.
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  Nonetheless, but it is nice. It really had some some
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  motivation to continue to do this work and crawl back to the
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  top. As we all know, the Rock, Rock
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  can do yes, I would I would support if I wasn't a broke
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  University student but unfortunately, that is what I am
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  at this point in my life. So Joe Friday says, I am
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  intruding. But why is this public?
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  Because see, people are so used to it, especially those who
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  watch Deep Fat fried. They're so used to having to pay
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  money in order to get on the somebody show that they're not
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  used to a link just being thrown out in the public for everybody
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  to participate. Then how about that anime doing
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  you handsome fella? Hey Brett hey water, how's it
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  going? Hey Adam, what's up?
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  Did you get you a new mic Adam? You sounded really powerful.
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  Now I have I'm just holding it closer than I usually do.
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  It sounds good. So Adam my senior comment
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  towards me said that you like the direction.
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  I'm going on. Yeah yeah.
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  So what is it that you like? What's so exciting brought when
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  you you lay the smackdown on Matt Powell and stuff like that
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  was great like I saw people at people like sending me Clips and
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  shit. Like, look at this.
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  Like yeah, that it was good. Well, he's the one that decided
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  to record a message and talk like that, you know, I told him
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  in the past I said, look man, I said, do you still have these
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  kind of views? And I mean, he tries, he tries
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  to twist it and say well it's really about pedophiles and all
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  that. And I said, dude, you keep
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  saying homosexuals though, you know, that's what you keep on
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  saying and all that and not all homosexuals are out there trying
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  to dig in a kid's drawers. Come on man.
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  You know the show. Show with Grayson to.
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  I think that is a good direction like the vibe of that was
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  awesome. Like there's been multiple
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  things that when veco came in, we're talking about a I like
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  it's just been a lot of cool stuff and enjoyable discussions
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  in a row. I feel like and Bret you've been
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  getting on camera like, you've been, you just kind of have been
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  cut. You've been doing a little bit
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  slightly different style and you're just like, that's right
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  motherfuckers, like this is, you know, you just have like you've
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  upped your game. I would say Now you gotta do
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  what you gotta do. Maybe Evolutions true in the
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  Kini bald, who knows, what do you think water?
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  I do think evolution is true and I think there has been a little
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  bit of an evolution in your videos.
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  So yeah, there you go. There's your proof.
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  Here you there. All we need now is some pyro and
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  some fireworks and all that. We're good to go.
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  What you've been doing Adam, you've been working on any art
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  comic books and the AI toys yeah, little bit all of the
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  above, I'm formatting a old comic book that I did back in
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  the day and kind of putting it back in print, I was working on
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  some AI stuff had some I've been having some discussion back and
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  forth with Grayson, which has been kind of cool on Big Bang
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  stuff and geology and different stuff.
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  He's a smart guy. I had tried to set up a
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  conversation between him and Matt Powell, but for whatever
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  reason, mr. Grayson waited until the last
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  minute and he goes I don't know if I'm going to be able to do
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  it. Man, I don't know if I can do
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  Friday and I'm like I'll mang but be fair.
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  Matt Powell wasn't given any indication that he wanted to do
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  any kind of debates. Apparently, he only wants to
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  debate. The people who are just just
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  upgraded from that of a damn banana are not whenever it comes
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  to an elect. I don't know if you ever seen
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  now, the Raging atheist debate, as well as mr.
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  Jones, Yeah, I don't remember the Raging atheist want as much.
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  I remember the mr. Jones one, and he had a lot of
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  technical issues like, obviously met hell, won that debate, but
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  although I do, I like mr. Jones, but I can't remember what
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  the circuit, the like, the specific details and
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  circumstances of the Raging atheist.
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  When were there was what wasn't there?
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  One where he was like accused of crying or something?
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  Yeah, the end of the The oh, he was crying.
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  He knew his audience hated him. At that point, he just
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  completely failed. No, it was horrible.
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  What did they like met up in real life?
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  Didn't let me like live close by and they like met up and it was
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  like, kind of I don't know, I can't really remember that was
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  from a while back. Hey, Mike, how you doing?
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  - what's up guys? - I got to tell you, man, I've
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  got a, I've got people who are my fans, and I got people who
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  are haters out there who, like, to grab my Clips unless you want
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  the baby to be all over the internet and all that.
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  I'm just letting, you know, as a friend You don't care.
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  Okay, well don't say I don't have much of a choice right now.
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  She's wide awake and I wanted it at least say hi to you guys.
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  All right, well Nick is there a point in time where you want to
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  tell me about some of the stuff we talked about an email Nick,
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  can you hear me? Are you having some kind of
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  delay or something? Yeah, there's a little bit of a
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  delay. I'm not sure why it's doing
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  that. You don't have the broadcast
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  opened outside to you. You know, the browser, open
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  playing the outside, as well as what's going on the inside.
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  Okay, so can you hear me now neck?
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  All right. Okay.
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  I closed the broadcast that worked.
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  How about that? So Nick you had said that you
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  have a story that you need to tell me.
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  Yeah, first I want to say hi to Adam.
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  How you doing bud? Hey Nick, how's it going?
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  It's going pretty good. Yeah, I was talking about a
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  little bit. I mean I don't want to get into
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  all the Kent hovind stuff and and Stephen and all that but I I
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  do, there's one thing I did want to say was, you know, Stephen
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  does talk about how he left Cindy because he heard, you
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  know, the audios and there was nothing on it and that's why he
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  left and that's absolutely not what happened.
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  So I used to do a lot of Cindy's construction work and stuff on
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  her homes and properties. And Stephen actually used to
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  work for me with my business. Hopefully, my daughter will
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  cooperate here, sorry, and I ended up taking a full-time job.
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  I'm going to scrap yard and was working a lot, so I couldn't do
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  it anymore. So I told Steven and Eddie who
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  both had work for me. I said, why don't you guys go
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  ahead and build the cabin for Cindy you guys can make some
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  money, you know? And so she was in a pay them
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  like five thousand dollars to frame it up and a bunch of other
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  stuff, and they knew I would, of course, be coming by and
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  checking on it, you know, to make sure it's being built,
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  right? And all of that.
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  So, I finally got some time to come by and look at it.
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  And they were building the roof at like, Six feet tall mind you
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  then you add in the drywall and honey bunny.
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  Sorry guys, maybe I should come back on it and finish this story
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  when I put her down. Sorry about that.
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  Look so good when you have it. Yeah, I got, I got the race and
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  kids and everything. They're young adults now, but I
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  definitely wouldn't have been able to do live shows back in
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  the day. That's for sure.
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  I'll be right back. Back, I promise.
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  All right guys. Sounds good.
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  Finish the story. Sounds good, love beer.
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  All right, let's go back to this screen.
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  Alright so we are good now. Oops I accidentally closed out
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  of my little Banner thing so you guys got any questions for me or
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  do we got some topics, we want to throw out there.
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  I've got a couple things I've been looking at on the news.
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  Oh Brett. There is one thing I wanted to
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  ask you actually if you don't want to talk about live as fine
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  too but what was like? Aiden Aidan's deal.
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  Well me and made we're getting along.
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  You know, that we had an issue a while back but I was willing to
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  let bygones be bygones but mostly because you had them
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  because you kept saying that he was having all the issues, so I
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  figured. All right, I'll give him a shout
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  again. Well, the problem was whenever I
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  returned, I ended up seeing some of marks Tony's videos and also
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  some weird stuff out there. And when I go to watch a video,
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  I go and I look at the comments as well, especially somebody's
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  the Drone and on. Shit about poisons cookies or
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  something. And I just seen repeated
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  comments by aiding just insult after insult and he comes into
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  my room pretending like he never said anything like it's just no
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  big deal and I asked him about it.
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  I confronted him and he tried to bullshit me.
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  And I said dude, it's right here and here and here when I said
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  I'm going to need an apology, he basically acted ignorant.
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  So that was the end of him. Okay?
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  Because I just thought that he was like, I don't know.
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  He was saying something and it was like I couldn't tell if he
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  was talking about something from seven months ago or like at
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  first it seemed like he was talking about something recent
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  and then it's like I just wasn't sure why he was Stuck on on
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  that. Well, that comment, I sent you
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  in the email. That was something he actually
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  recently. Today, posted into my comments
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  and all that, but it picked it up on The Blacklist and thing I
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  seen it. But I took a screenshot of it
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  and I wanted you to see. So you would know in the future.
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  Why? It is.
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  They does not welcome here. Okay.
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  Yeah, he's a he's a little turd burglar and I'm just not going
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  to put up with it. Well yeah, I didn't want to, I
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  don't know, I didn't want to get too deep into.
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  It was just kind of wondering like what?
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  Because like last, I haven't talked to Aden that much, but he
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  seemed like he was like trying to be cool with you and wanting
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  to be friends but then he was like, I don't know, he didn't
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  seem clear on what his motivations of it were.
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  Well I am if you remember, I actually had opened up a fun me
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  with my live audience and ask people to support him because he
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  was being evicted, as family, was going to be sitting out on
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  the street and they were going to be getting Ting.
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  Their livestream ability from a shed with a hanger on the end of
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  it with a hamster running on a wheel.
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  That's what he was going to end up doing and I got him a lot of
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  money to be able to save his damn home and his family and all
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  that and then to come back and see him putting comments out
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  there like that, it look Adam. If I watch a stream and I see
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  one of my friends get up there and say well I don't agree with
• 26:18
  Pratt keen on this so I have I'm not with him on that or we're
• 26:23
  not on the same wavelength. That's Fine.
• 26:25
  I don't expect people to agree with me but the kind of shit he
• 26:29
  was saying was a stone-cold. I mean, you seem to comment.
• 26:32
  Hey, welcome back there. - yeah, you guys talking about We're
• 26:38
  talking about just another putrid piece of trash and stuff
• 26:41
  that rolls around on the internet.
• 26:43
  Nothing special. So you want to finish your story
• 26:46
  about the whole 75,000 dollars. You were building her a home all
• 26:51
  that stuff. That's where you left off.
• 26:54
  Yeah. So actually she wanted to build
• 26:57
  a smaller cabin that she could live in so she could run out her
• 27:00
  home to get back her income. That Kent had basically taken
• 27:05
  from her, right? That's another long.
• 27:07
  The story. I'm not, I don't know me.
• 27:09
  And you know, it sounded like going online and bashing people
• 27:12
  a lot and I mean sometimes I'll stand up and don't, don't worry.
• 27:15
  Hey, hey, that you're not like that.
• 27:17
  We know that you're not up here doing all that.
• 27:20
  Don't worry about that. Ain't nobody gonna have a sad,
• 27:23
  just tell us what happened there.
• 27:26
  So what happened was, I ended up coming to look at the job and
• 27:31
  how it was going because I always help send you out with
• 27:34
  stuff like that. Anyway, I mean, she's helped me
• 27:36
  with my homework, I've helped a lot of projects, you know, she
• 27:39
  trusts my opinion. I had these guys had worked for
• 27:42
  me for a while and I was like, yeah, they should be able to do
• 27:44
  it, you know, I mean and so when I got there, the roof was only
• 27:49
  at six feet and not only that, the stuff wasn't lined up
• 27:54
  straight things, which I hadn't torn all apart yet.
• 27:56
  So I haven't seen it all yet, but it just just a few things to
• 28:00
  fix. It wasn't that big of a deal yet
• 28:02
  as far as what I saw and all I said was let's go ahead and
• 28:05
  raise the roof up and they can just pull some screws.
• 28:07
  He's out, you know, and and raise it a little bit higher.
• 28:10
  Because if you put it in 6 feet by the time you add the ceiling
• 28:13
  and hold on one second. Hold on one second.
• 28:15
  Be brain. You got your mic wide open over
• 28:17
  there. Can you meet that when you're
• 28:19
  not talking? Are you hearing me?
• 28:23
  Do you know how technology work? All right, if you're too damn
• 28:28
  dumb to figure out how shit works.
• 28:30
  You go bye-bye. It's it's simple.
• 28:32
  Learn how to do shit. There's like a thousand
• 28:34
  tutorials on the internet including mine that you can
• 28:37
  watch. All right, go ahead and excited
• 28:39
  about that. That's all right.
• 28:40
  No problem. And so she sent a text out to
• 28:44
  him saying hey Nick came up with a really good idea to raise the
• 28:47
  roof because if it's solo I won't be able to hang ceiling
• 28:50
  fans. It'll feel really claustrophobic
• 28:53
  in here and all that well idiot. The just they flipped on Sunday
• 28:58
  and they're like, how dare you have Nick come and look at how
• 29:01
  we're building this and you know we're trying to do you a favor
• 29:05
  and what's and now most of this was Eddie to be fair and he sent
• 29:09
  all these nasty text messages saying, I'm going to come and
• 29:12
  rip everything down. And then he started threatening
• 29:15
  me saying, I'm going to slash your tires and I mean it was it
• 29:19
  was crazy. Why don't I help you get so
• 29:20
  pissed off. I don't get I think because he
• 29:23
  didn't like me judging his work basically.
• 29:26
  But he knew I was the one that recommended the job and I can't
• 29:29
  talk right now. The fall down and send these
• 29:31
  head though, right? Yeah.
• 29:32
  And not only that it was just the roof needs to be a little
• 29:35
  taller. That was it.
• 29:36
  And I was like, let's just pull out the screws you know, on
• 29:39
  these different areas and then we can raise it up that that's
• 29:42
  all I said. How tall is Sandy.
• 29:46
  She's not that tall. But can you imagine a six-foot
• 29:50
  roof with the insulation? Then you add the dry wall?
• 29:53
  Now you're looking at five foot so you got a 16 by 16 room with
• 29:57
  a 5 foot 10 Rue basically I mean it's going to feel small
• 30:01
  claustrophobic I mean we were able wanted Nick.
• 30:06
  Why did they do it? Solo what I think?
• 30:07
  She's a hobbit or something? No, so they had bought this like
• 30:12
  Barn like that can be converted into a house.
• 30:16
  Like Kent does a lot of his stuff and she got it real cheap
• 30:19
  and there was a little bit of a miscommunication where they
• 30:22
  wanted to match the level of the walls with the roof in the other
• 30:26
  barn. But Cindy had said to them, I
• 30:28
  want the roof at this footage and I forget what it was exactly
• 30:32
  but it was like 7 foot or a foot.
• 30:34
  But when she went there she pointed out.
• 30:36
  Oh makes you know put it here and so it was just a
• 30:39
  miscommunication issue, really? But I don't we mean sending
• 30:42
  both, don't understand why they flipped out so much and it just
• 30:46
  Turning this horrible thing and and he was I think Eddie was
• 30:49
  drinking that night to be honest.
• 30:50
  And he was sending all these nasty text and, you know, and
• 30:53
  Steve was kind of in the middle of it and, you know, and to be
• 30:56
  fair to Steve, I think what assumed he was pardoned.
• 31:04
  But when they had kind of had a rip and stuff, but at the same
• 31:07
  time he did send a text the next day instead of saying I'm sorry
• 31:10
  about Eddie's Behavior. He's like if you want to come
• 31:13
  back to work you need to pay us up front before, will do
• 31:15
  anything else that's and he's always paid.
• 31:17
  She's not she's always face. Never had a problem with that,
• 31:19
  you know, she's very fair about those things and and and they
• 31:23
  are above and Eddie was like, how dare you have Nick come and
• 31:26
  look at this. And so there was a big falling
• 31:28
  out over the work and stuff. That's what really happened.
• 31:31
  And then they never really talked again.
• 31:34
  They fell apart. So it wasn't this.
• 31:37
  Oh, I saw that Kent was right. And that's why I separated from
• 31:41
  Cindy and know it had to do with money and work, basically, hold
• 31:45
  on one second. Be bringing them at the band,
• 31:48
  your ass for two stupid. I don't want to hear the fucking
• 31:50
  music Vector, you dummy. All right, go ahead next.
• 31:53
  Sorry about that. We had to lose her on the loose.
• 31:56
  That's okay. It's no purpose.
• 31:58
  So I just, I just want to put that out there that it what it
• 32:01
  had nothing to do with. Like he says, That oh I never
• 32:05
  found anything on the audios and he's the one that posted all
• 32:08
  these videos and showed what can't was saying.
• 32:10
  He's like, I can't believe Kent would talk to you that way and
• 32:13
  talk allow other men to talk to you this way and you know, and
• 32:16
  him sitting so you know, it's sad because I know he knows
• 32:19
  better. Now, I don't agree with Sydney
• 32:23
  on some things where he then were she attacks personal things
• 32:27
  or she hasn't really. I mean, I've kind of talked her
• 32:29
  out of some of it but it's like, you know, like I always say we
• 32:33
  don't need to go to Ken Level where we attack people,
• 32:35
  personally, let's just stay on the facts and what happened and
• 32:38
  the facts, are they fell apart because of money and other
• 32:42
  issues. It had nothing to do with what
• 32:44
  he says. And so I just wanted people to
• 32:46
  know that that it really had to do with the fact that he did a
• 32:50
  really crappy job. Now, it even got worse from
• 32:53
  there. So you were, you were telling me
• 32:55
  an email about something happened to Steven.
• 32:57
  I'm already aware of, you know, 70 and Kent and, you know, the
• 33:01
  money issues and Robin around. Austin and having her live in a
• 33:05
  hobbit barn or something like that.
• 33:07
  I know all about that in the poisonous cookies from Joanna.
• 33:10
  But what's the deal with Stephanie and and I wouldn't
• 33:14
  mind hearing your views on Joanna as well, not all well
• 33:17
  Stephen. Yeah, yeah.
• 33:19
  So they fell apart because of him doing a terrible job and
• 33:24
  she's like, you're supposed to be my friend.
• 33:26
  I would think that you would make sure that the jobs being
• 33:28
  done properly, so a little bit another person.
• 33:32
  She not she I was still working. This other guy.
• 33:34
  So she tried to hire another person to fix what they, you
• 33:39
  know, raise the roof and fix some things and then they ended
• 33:41
  up ripping her off to. I mean, it's sad.
• 33:43
  So I ended up just I quit my job and I was like, I'll take care
• 33:46
  of this for you. You know, I was working so much
• 33:50
  and I had kids coming now and I like doing my business anyway
• 33:55
  and I was like fine. I will go ahead and take care of
• 33:57
  this for you so I was like I'll just fix the issues.
• 34:00
  Well, I ended up pulling up the floors dude.
• 34:02
  The joist like on. On one side, they were 10
• 34:05
  inches. On the other side, they were 13.
• 34:08
  And then the next one was 12 and then six.
• 34:11
  And then, I mean, they were so crooked, I can't even tell you
• 34:14
  then, I was trying to look at the four by fours that they set
• 34:17
  up, you know, to hold the floors up and everything they put not
• 34:20
  even one inch of concrete which is useless as you know and the
• 34:25
  4x4 in the middle was sticking out farther than the to On The
• 34:29
  Edge. So the building wasn't Square.
• 34:31
  The building wasn't level the Lures weren't even put in
• 34:35
  properly. I mean it's kind of a blessing
• 34:38
  in disguise, right? Having tear everything down that
• 34:40
  they didn't rebuild it all Nick. I got a question for ya Cindy a
• 34:45
  while back showed me some video footage as well.
• 34:48
  Some imagery of these blue bags that were all over the damn
• 34:52
  house and everything and she claimed that they were filled
• 34:54
  with turds who the who to fuck took the bag of shit through it,
• 34:58
  all over the house like that. Do you know so that was for
• 35:02
  other property. That she had bought after the
• 35:06
  whole Chris Jones staying there and all that stuff.
• 35:09
  She had bought that was the house that me.
• 35:11
  And my wife were going to buy and I had redone the floors.
• 35:14
  I had repainted it. I'd done a lot of work and it
• 35:16
  was beautiful and actually there are pictures if you look on the
• 35:19
  internet of what it looked like, when we left the house and it
• 35:22
  turned out being a blessing because we ended up getting
• 35:24
  another house that was cheaper much larger and a real house
• 35:28
  instead of like a mobile home basically, well she had these
• 35:31
  tenants move in and In those, she gave them months.
• 35:36
  She gave them an opportunity to buy it.
• 35:38
  She even said, hey if you put down, you know, ten Grand or
• 35:43
  five, you know, she's trying to work with them, then you can
• 35:45
  just make monthly payments and I'll sell it to you.
• 35:47
  And then eventually, you know, because Kent stole everything
• 35:50
  from her, she had to sell and so she gave them a notice even
• 35:54
  though she already told them, she was trying to sell it,
• 35:57
  trying to sell it to them, they couldn't buy it, they couldn't
• 35:59
  get a loan. So then she gave a notice saying
• 36:01
  somebody else is buying it and not only that one.
• 36:04
  She gave him. The notice they asked for more
• 36:05
  days, she gave them more days. Well, in retaliation, they then
• 36:09
  went and the lady that was there was disabled and stuff.
• 36:14
  And she they threw her diapers everywhere.
• 36:18
  They trashed. Those floors that I redone that
• 36:20
  were beautiful. They trash them.
• 36:22
  They trash the house. The animals.
• 36:24
  Trash to property. She ended up having to sell it
• 36:26
  for like 25 grand less. You hear that Adam, do you hear
• 36:30
  that Adam, these people were shipping and blue bags.
• 36:34
  Shit in like a fucking zoo animal and tossing it around the
• 36:38
  house like that and this poor man had to clean the shit up.
• 36:43
  Now thankfully I did because we're at one of your one of my
• 36:47
  favorite quotes from your wall time as like you're you're
• 36:50
  commenting on it. You're like well I'm not a turd
• 36:53
  archaeologist but I have this to say like so Nick, what was that?
• 37:01
  Like did you have any help or did you have to go in there and
• 37:04
  say, Solo turd architect. Well, thankfully, I didn't have
• 37:07
  to clean it at that time. I was working for someone else.
• 37:10
  I had done the house beforehand, but I saw the pictures.
• 37:14
  I saw the damage and I saw what the property looked like
• 37:17
  afterwards and I'm like, wow, these people destroyed your
• 37:20
  home, they destroyed it, you know?
• 37:22
  And then Kent was coming over and taking things off the
• 37:26
  property, even though he wasn't supposed to be there and you
• 37:30
  know, he basically got off the court on you technique,
• 37:32
  actually, you actually see In can't come over and take stuff.
• 37:37
  I know, I personally, no, but I've seen the messages.
• 37:43
  I've seen the things and where he was sending his people over,
• 37:48
  and I do know he did. He came over himself sometimes
• 37:51
  to help out. And of course, you know, it was
• 37:53
  people that were against Cindy now.
• 37:54
  So, hey, I'm all for them basically.
• 37:57
  So your wife Julie, she's a secretary.
• 38:01
  So she knew all those coming in and out, As well, right?
• 38:05
  She used to be yes. Hmm.
• 38:07
  Until they took advantage of her and we all know the mess that
• 38:11
  happened there and it's just I'm glad she's gone.
• 38:15
  It's great that you guys have been through.
• 38:20
  I guess an adventure. Damn rough.
• 38:24
  Well not only that you know, I looked up to Kent and I watched
• 38:28
  him I met him. When I was like 11, I mean, when
• 38:30
  I was going through college, I would argue with my teachers and
• 38:34
  I mean I was I was I ended up having this one Professor where
• 38:38
  I learned over time? You know if I raise my hand and
• 38:41
  try to embarrass them in front of the class, he's not going to
• 38:44
  listen. And so I would start writing
• 38:46
  papers and I got this one Professor, we would write back
• 38:50
  and forth. And he'd say, well, what about
• 38:51
  this evidence? And I'd say well actually, you
• 38:54
  know what, we talked about Lucy and and all kinds of things, the
• 38:58
  big bang and because the first day of class that he said to us,
• 39:01
  it was actually my senior year in high school.
• 39:04
  I had to take a freshman class because I moved from California
• 39:06
  or Florida to California, which was sad because the Florida
• 39:10
  school was 100 times better. But the first thing he said to
• 39:13
  us is, all of you are Stardust every last one of you are
• 39:16
  Stardust and I started laughing and then act fast.
• 39:19
  And I was like, okay and you know, this how you know and and
• 39:24
  I and he kind of cut me off. And so I learned from that
• 39:27
  point, I'll just write him and we ended up riding back and
• 39:31
  forth and we ended up having like a 60 page Wish I still had
• 39:35
  it because we ended up having this just back and forth and
• 39:38
  back and forth, and by the end of the year, he's like, well, I
• 39:40
  have to admit it, you know, I don't have much to argue with
• 39:43
  you about it was, it was pretty cool, he did admit, I was right,
• 39:47
  but he didn't admit I was wrong either, you know, and from that
• 39:50
  point, I kind of learned through school and stuff.
• 39:52
  It's better to talk to people privately and, you know,
• 39:56
  confront them in a different way.
• 39:58
  That's where I don't always agree with Ken and how he makes
• 40:02
  fun of evolutionists and calls them stupid.
• 40:04
  It and this and that, which whatever?
• 40:05
  I mean, that's the way he decides to do things.
• 40:07
  I just I just don't think so. You guys have a question.
• 40:13
  Would prove you aren't? Yeah, what's your view on
• 40:17
  Joanna? Some people are saying no boy.
• 40:20
  Sad, sad story. Other people are saying that
• 40:22
  she's cuckoo for Cocoa. Puffs, what's your thoughts?
• 40:26
  Both. It's a sad story and she's
• 40:28
  cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. So it's, you know, I one thing I
• 40:32
  will say she has a big heart. She is very giving.
• 40:38
  She's very kind. She's very loving, but she also,
• 40:41
  we kind of worn thin. Before she moved in there, we
• 40:43
  said Cindy she tends to make up things exaggerated sand with
• 40:48
  your mental condition and how you're already worried about
• 40:51
  Kent and his cronies. Like she says and the mafia all
• 40:54
  this you know you don't need to be hearing these things.
• 40:57
  All those stories about her where she says, Cindy told me
• 41:00
  that Sandra was running through the woods naked that was new.
• 41:03
  That she said, Sandra, she said, all of that stuff all of that
• 41:06
  came from her and you can hear in Julie's recording she was.
• 41:10
  The one saying those things she was the one saying that Kent
• 41:12
  Aunt, but sending people over and they were she would say how
• 41:16
  her fire pit a brick would get moved.
• 41:18
  And that Kent had one of his guys come over and move the
• 41:20
  brick so that they knew it was moved, but it was just enough to
• 41:25
  mess with them mentally. And and she would tell Cindy
• 41:28
  this, and Sydney would be like, well, you know, I have to
• 41:31
  believe her because nobody else believes her and we're like
• 41:34
  Cindy, like Kent is not, I'm sorry.
• 41:37
  Joanna is not important enough. That Kent sending people over
• 41:40
  just to her ask her. You know, and not only that,
• 41:43
  neither are you no offense. I mean, yes, you're saying a lot
• 41:47
  and but he's not doing those things, and it got to the point
• 41:51
  where we had to put cameras up, and, and because Joanna was
• 41:56
  saying that she heard people walking through the woods.
• 41:59
  She was saying that people were outside her RV that were dancing
• 42:03
  on her rooftop. That was all her stories.
• 42:05
  That everything said she said the Cindy said came from Joanna.
• 42:09
  And like when she said, I killed a snake and put it on her
• 42:14
  pillow. I mean, even her Son was like,
• 42:20
  what is you know what I mean? And like I told him look, it's
• 42:22
  your mom. I don't expect you to confront
• 42:25
  her, you know. I just want you to know, you
• 42:27
  know. I would never do something like
• 42:28
  that. He's like I know.
• 42:29
  I understand that. Hold on, hold on.
• 42:31
  You just got my attention to something like this first time
• 42:34
  here. Animals snakes on pillows.
• 42:35
  What do we got going on here? You didn't hear that in the
• 42:37
  interview. So how are you saying that?
• 42:40
  I put a snake on her pillow. This is Joanna.
• 42:44
  Said that? Yes, Joanna said that.
• 42:46
  Yes. Why I gotta be honest with you
• 42:49
  that woman kind of rattle darn for so long, and I don't want to
• 42:54
  sound like I'm not sympathetic yet, but she kind of like made
• 42:58
  me Zone the hell out about 20 minutes then it was this way I
• 43:01
  can. So that's I'm sorry Nick I well
• 43:06
  I mean there's new things for me like she sent a text to Cindy
• 43:09
  saying how my wife made her tea and and poison her with
• 43:15
  mushrooms and that her and Cindy got sick.
• 43:18
  Then and then I watched your video where she's saying how
• 43:21
  Cindy was telling her to poison, I mean you did a good job
• 43:26
  actually, right. Where you asked her will did you
• 43:28
  call the police? You know, and she's like, oh
• 43:31
  well no I and she danced around the answer, you know what I
• 43:35
  mean? And if you hear some of the
• 43:37
  things, she said they are so far out there.
• 43:39
  It's like, and to be honest, Adam back when she was talking
• 43:43
  about the bones in the backyard and stuff.
• 43:45
  I mean, me on that guy. I talked to her Her backstage
• 43:48
  after the show. And she started getting into
• 43:50
  witches and cauldrons and shit. It was getting really fucking
• 43:53
  weird. I felt like I was at a pagan
• 43:55
  meeting. You know what?
• 43:57
  She said to me as a because she so she didn't know that, my wife
• 44:02
  had recorded their conversation which you can hear online now
• 44:05
  and she came to me the next day because I was working at Cindy's
• 44:07
  house and she's like, I need to talk to you.
• 44:09
  I said, okay, actually, my wife wanted me to talk to her and
• 44:12
  tell her. Look, I'll give you a ride to
• 44:13
  work anyway. I don't want you to lose your
• 44:15
  job even though they had that big fight and stuff.
• 44:18
  Like, can you please let Joanna know that?
• 44:19
  Like I'll give her a ride. Tell her, I won't talk to her
• 44:22
  about anything. I'll leave her alone.
• 44:23
  I just want to make sure she gets to work.
• 44:25
  It doesn't lose her job. And so Joanna had approached me
• 44:30
  and she started telling me how my wife was screaming at her and
• 44:33
  her face and I was like no Jenna my wife wasn't doing that and
• 44:37
  she's like well you don't know and I'm like well you know I
• 44:42
  heard that you and Julia seem like you're very calm till type
• 44:47
  of Well, I just don't Envision you guys like screaming and your
• 44:50
  head turning all red. Be my wife.
• 44:55
  You know how they get sometimes? But for the we have somebody on
• 45:01
  one second. Adam do you see this person
• 45:03
  called Joe Friday out here? What is this?
• 45:06
  Is this a is this like a chat or something?
• 45:09
  I do. I don't know what the hell's
• 45:11
  wrong with you, dude. But you kind of dumb.
• 45:13
  Go ahead continue on. No, that's okay.
• 45:17
  That's what makes you so fun. Sometimes ready.
• 45:20
  You got interesting stuff going on.
• 45:22
  I know, man. I gotta do.
• 45:24
  Tutorials, just teach people how to use your mouse to click the
• 45:27
  link and start me not to ma'am. But you know, so she came to me
• 45:33
  and was talking to me about it and she was telling me how my
• 45:36
  wife was getting in her face. Like she talked up for Tricia
• 45:39
  and all these other things and I was like, you know, and then
• 45:41
  she's like, I want to show you where, you know, the people
• 45:45
  Nathan saw that the window was open.
• 45:47
  They were outside their, I didn't say they were dancing on
• 45:49
  the roof and, and they were actually outside my window,
• 45:52
  which I was like, you told me yourself, they were dancing on
• 45:55
  the roof. But, okay, I didn't want to
• 45:56
  argue with her. So I just listen, she doesn't
• 45:58
  let you talk anyway as You know? And and so she shows me at the
• 46:03
  window is open this far and you can ask Nathan about it.
• 46:06
  And, and so she showed me a few things and we ended up going
• 46:11
  back to my car, my truck afterwards and then that's when
• 46:15
  she started telling me that, you know, Julie was so mean to me
• 46:17
  and she was screaming and yelling at me telling me I need
• 46:20
  to take drugs and and Beyond psychiatrist drugs and I was
• 46:24
  like well you know that my wife doesn't believe in those things,
• 46:28
  right? I mean she's when she's
• 46:30
  pregnant, she didn't even Take Tylenol.
• 46:32
  She's, you know, she's not now she did mention to you about
• 46:35
  maybe talking to a therapist because even you say, you've
• 46:38
  been through a lot of abuse. You've been through a lot of
• 46:41
  trauma, you know, and that wouldn't be a bad thing and
• 46:44
  she's like known, she was yelling and screaming at me and
• 46:47
  so I turn her. I said look, now I know you're
• 46:48
  lying. Oh that that set her off, she
• 46:51
  was just like and she stomped off, you know?
• 46:54
  And then now mind you Cindy had nothing to do with any of this.
• 46:58
  The last thing Cindy had said to Joanna was I can't give you a
• 47:01
  ride to work because I have to go to work myself.
• 47:04
  And so she had told, Julie, ask Julie to give her a ride because
• 47:08
  some stuff she said her daughter and said about her and And I
• 47:15
  daughter had said about her and was like, why did you say this?
• 47:19
  I know your daughter and say this and this is where this all
• 47:22
  started said, he had nothing to do with it.
• 47:24
  Cindy did nothing but give her a place to live help her.
• 47:27
  Believe her support her. We were completely separate of
• 47:32
  this whole issue. And that's what was so shocking.
• 47:35
  So, the last thing I said to her was like, now, I know you're
• 47:37
  lying because I had heard the Recon for stations and I knew my
• 47:40
  wife had not yelled and screamed at her like she was saying.
• 47:43
  And so she stomped off and then The next thing, you know, we get
• 47:46
  a text message saying I'm gone. I will be back in a few days to
• 47:50
  get the RV or I'll send someone to get it.
• 47:53
  And then some guy pulls up a few days later because I was taking
• 47:58
  the cameras back down because we had only put them up.
• 48:00
  Because Joanna was saying, she was being attacked by Kent and
• 48:03
  his people and we wanted to catch it on film.
• 48:05
  Just showing one second. One second hex, you gotta meet
• 48:09
  your fucking microphone, whenever people are talking,
• 48:13
  their folks, are you complaining there's an Like, oh my goodness,
• 48:17
  man. Did you get your shit work?
• 48:19
  And finally is it working. Now it sounds like it's working
• 48:23
  a little bit better and deal. Hopefully we don't have a lot of
• 48:26
  the way. So what's your story there?
• 48:28
  Hacks. And then we're going to get back
• 48:29
  in the necklaces conversation. No, no, no, please continue
• 48:33
  Nick, I'll continue on when you're finished.
• 48:37
  All right, go ahead. Nick, let's hear some more.
• 48:39
  So we got snakes on the pillow, which has and cauldrons cookies
• 48:43
  that are poisoned and It's a fucking nightmare.
• 48:46
  Next, let's well, let me work. Let me finish.
• 48:49
  So this is kind of what's always happen with Joanna.
• 48:52
  It's always people are trying to have sex with her there's which
• 48:54
  has she sees ghosts should cease and this is kind of what we were
• 48:58
  trying to warn Cindy about. Like you don't need to be
• 49:00
  hearing these, things are already worried enough you're
• 49:02
  already. And so when she made that life
• 49:05
  about her daughter, we that's when we confronted her and all
• 49:08
  this happened because of me and my wife and now mind you, she
• 49:12
  had always told us these stories and like, to us We just ignored
• 49:15
  and II. That's just Joanna, you know?
• 49:17
  And we loved her and cared for her anyway, because that's just
• 49:20
  Joanna, Cindy, actually believed it and it was driving her crazy.
• 49:24
  I mean, she was getting to the point where she was afraid to
• 49:26
  come out of her house because of the stories that Joanna was
• 49:29
  telling her about Kent, sending people over and going through
• 49:33
  the woods and, you know, moving one brick to mess with them
• 49:35
  mentally and all these crazy things, which actually got
• 49:39
  Joanna on camera moving the bricks herself.
• 49:43
  Oh damn, which I made. Post that someday because I
• 49:46
  actually caught that. So and then not only that, we
• 49:49
  also got a bit possibly Cindy will most likely see this video
• 49:53
  and all that. But maybe you did show her the
• 49:57
  brick thing. Yes, I did.
• 49:59
  She was, it was her video. We sat there and I showed I
• 50:01
  played it back for her and she's like, oh my gosh, you know, so
• 50:05
  now I'm not, here's the thing with Joanna.
• 50:09
  I feel because of all her abuse and I think she's been through a
• 50:11
  lot of things, is what we try to explain to Cindy a lot of it.
• 50:15
  When she says, she heard somebody cussing at her cabin
• 50:17
  saying SEO. And I really think Joanna heard
• 50:21
  that. I don't think it happened.
• 50:23
  I think she really hard that and in her mind it probably really
• 50:26
  happened. And so we were trying to explain
• 50:29
  to city that that you know, and join I got so defensive like I
• 50:33
  don't have mental issues, that's not, you know, it which we never
• 50:36
  said that to her personally. We just said to her.
• 50:39
  Okay. You know and me and Julie we and
• 50:42
  everyone else, we just kind of ignore the crazy stories with
• 50:44
  Cindy. I actually believe them and it
• 50:46
  got to the point where she was terrified because she thought
• 50:49
  Kent was doing all these things but she wasn't, you know what I
• 50:53
  mean? And she spent like $900 plus
• 50:57
  paying me to install them to put these cameras up and everything
• 51:00
  else to show, you know, hey, this isn't actually going on or
• 51:05
  to prove that it was going on. She really thought it was going
• 51:08
  on. She spent the money to prove.
• 51:10
  Let's catch them in the ACT. I put them up cuz I knew it.
• 51:15
  I don't know if the people out there are aware of this but Joey
• 51:18
  and I has a flat over to Kent Hogan.
• 51:21
  Yeah. You must be a little bit of
• 51:23
  delay. Yeah Adam.
• 51:24
  I see out there. Yes he did flip over to Kent
• 51:27
  hovind. What do you mean?
• 51:31
  Joanna dead. Sea's are not.
• 51:33
  You know, why? Because he paid to move her RV.
• 51:38
  He paid for that and then he offered her five or six thousand
• 51:41
  dollars to to buy the RV from her.
• 51:45
  Which by the way, she shows the video of it being trashed and
• 51:48
  stuff. That's how she lived.
• 51:49
  I mean, dude it she had five or six cats living in there inside
• 51:54
  of it. I mean it smells so bad you
• 51:56
  could smell it outside of the RV that was the other thing we
• 51:59
  tried to warn Cindy about is, if she's living there, you're going
• 52:02
  to have trouble with tenants because she hangs her clothes
• 52:05
  outside. She, she would in the fire pit.
• 52:08
  She would put she didn't have a toilet.
• 52:12
  Now, when nobody was living in the cabin Cindy, let her use the
• 52:14
  cabin Go to the bathroom to take a shower.
• 52:16
  When someone was living in there she would, I don't know where
• 52:19
  she go, but she would put it in the fire pit and burn it.
• 52:22
  The same fire pit that she would cook her food in and stuff.
• 52:25
  I mean, it was oh man. She was doing it like the old
• 52:28
  Hebrews back and yeah, yeah, exactly it.
• 52:32
  Which like I said, Joanna had such a big heart that we just
• 52:35
  kind of ignored it because of all the trauma.
• 52:37
  She had been through we're not we weren't trying to judge her
• 52:40
  or you know, we thought man she's really been abused by her
• 52:43
  ex-husband. She's had all kinds of things.
• 52:45
  Happened with me and join everyone.
• 52:47
  We just knew to ignore the crazy stories about The Ghost and
• 52:50
  people dancing on the roof. And the whole reason I brought
• 52:53
  this point is because people dancing on the roof.
• 52:56
  So let me finish that. It's kind of, kind of funny.
• 53:00
  So what she was telling me that whole story about Nathan, seeing
• 53:02
  the window open, which, by the way, Nathan said the window was
• 53:05
  not, it was barely cracked. Which is it was always like
• 53:08
  that, it wasn't like she said. And so she lied about that too.
• 53:11
  But she said to me, she's like, I did get sarcastic with Julie.
• 53:15
  Why? And she said this so fast, like
• 53:18
  a normal person couldn't think this fat.
• 53:19
  She's like, you know, they were dancing on the roof, Nick, and
• 53:23
  they were naked and I invite him in in my, my RV to have sex with
• 53:27
  them. And then after we had sex, they
• 53:31
  turned into cat food and then the cats ate them and put them
• 53:34
  out. And it won't even let her come.
• 53:35
  Here, we're naked ghost on the roof.
• 53:39
  No, no, she. She was said she was being
• 53:41
  sarcastic when she said this. Okay.
• 53:44
  But But she took to make it ghost into her trailer RV and
• 53:48
  had sex with them. Yep.
• 53:50
  And then they turned into cat food and then the cats ate them
• 53:55
  and poop them out, and they became leprechauns and then they
• 53:58
  disappear. If my goodness, man, like I
• 54:04
  said, you live with cats, like this down there, for how long, I
• 54:12
  don't know, why can't attracts all these people.
• 54:14
  I there are some good people like Jonathan and Bethany like
• 54:19
  Cindy. 100 or 200 people. It's a small.
• 54:25
  I don't know why your tracks I was sent to be fooled by this
• 54:28
  woman. I mean, she's saying the kid
• 54:30
  sexual intercourse with a Corporal mind and all that.
• 54:34
  Damn ghost. Well, like I said, she said she
• 54:37
  was being sarcastic about that. My thought was, wow, how could
• 54:41
  make someone makeup that so quick?
• 54:43
  That's now. She said it would didn't happen.
• 54:46
  She's like, I'm being sarcastic, I don't mean this really
• 54:48
  happened. I was just being sarcastic
• 54:50
  because I was mad at you. Lee when she said this.
• 54:52
  So, I'm not saying she said that was true.
• 54:54
  She didn't say that. She's very clear, it wasn't.
• 54:56
  But my thought was, I could never think of a story like that
• 55:00
  off the top of my head. You know what I mean?
• 55:02
  Like, holy cow. How do you make up something
• 55:05
  like that? You know, the, the reason Cindy
• 55:10
  believes you're in, this is the one fault that I love about
• 55:13
  sending, but I also, Feel bad about she, when women come to
• 55:17
  her, that have been abused, that have have a story that have been
• 55:22
  hurt by people, she tends to always believe them.
• 55:27
  Want to help them. I mean she will immediately.
• 55:30
  Oh well I want to rent this out to this lady because her husband
• 55:33
  is abusing her and she's trying to get away and she doesn't have
• 55:37
  money, but I want to help her and which is fine.
• 55:41
  I love that about sinning but there's a point where people are
• 55:44
  using In her because of that, you know, I mean, what a
• 55:47
  breakfast even issue, though. I mean, you said that a Stephen
• 55:51
  didn't like you judging is his handiwork trying to make a
• 55:55
  hobbit home for Sunday. So, what, well, what's he is?
• 56:00
  That means he said, look Eddie was in charge and I was just
• 56:02
  following him and I said, Stephen you worked with me for
• 56:05
  how long you knew better than that, you knew it wasn't right.
• 56:08
  You should have said something, you know, I mean that was my
• 56:11
  point with him and he's like, look, you know, how Eddie is I
• 56:14
  was afraid to speak. Up.
• 56:15
  I'm like, yes, but if you're Cindy's friend and you're trying
• 56:17
  to protect her like you say, you are, you wouldn't allow that to
• 56:21
  happen. And so, that was my point with
• 56:23
  him. And this is why I'm not trying
• 56:24
  to bash him, or talk down to him, you know what I mean?
• 56:27
  But it was just kind of like it was negligent if you ask me.
• 56:30
  And if you're really someone's friend and trying to protect
• 56:32
  him, you wouldn't allow those things to happen.
• 56:35
  And then the other things too is he's telling everybody, oh, I
• 56:39
  left Cindy because I felt she was wrong and can't was right.
• 56:43
  That's not what happened at all. It And because of the work issue
• 56:48
  and the financial issue it had nothing to do with Kent at all.
• 56:51
  Then later on when Kent reached out to him and started
• 56:56
  supporting him and helping him and stuff, that's when he went
• 56:59
  back to Kent. Now if he had honestly done
• 57:02
  that. That's the way it happened.
• 57:03
  I'd say that it's a yeah he didn't believe Cindy him.
• 57:07
  He left her hanging out. He was helping her all the time
• 57:10
  he was being a good guy. That's why I'm not trying to
• 57:13
  bash him or her, but it just I just don't understand.
• 57:17
  Well, I just want to tell the truth is what I'm trying to say
• 57:19
  is it had to do with the work and what happened with that.
• 57:22
  Now I do feel his feelings were a little bit hurt that Cindy
• 57:25
  automatically assumed that he was on Eddie side.
• 57:30
  You know, with the I'm gonna smash everything and I think he
• 57:32
  felt well Cindy sure to know me better.
• 57:35
  That I was actually because what he told He was, I was trying to
• 57:38
  call him Eddie down. He was drinking.
• 57:40
  I didn't I was trying to make the situation better, but like
• 57:43
  Cindy said, then why did he write the next day and say?
• 57:47
  Well, pay me up front instead of I'm sorry for Eddie's Behavior.
• 57:51
  I can't believe that happened. I did my best to calm it down.
• 57:54
  Can we work this out? No it was if you want me to do
• 57:57
  more work you're going to pay me upfront and and so that's where
• 58:01
  It was the issue was, you know, I mean, that's kind of where the
• 58:05
  fuck. I'm getting the drift of where
• 58:07
  you are with Cindy. Lincoln your views, about Kent,
• 58:10
  your views about, uh, you know, the shit thrower, and the house,
• 58:14
  and all this. What your views about marks,
• 58:17
  Tony mock. I love Mark.
• 58:21
  I do. I know where as hard as and
• 58:25
  stuff, I disagree. Very with him making fun of you
• 58:32
  fat and all that stuff and he claims.
• 58:34
  Well that's not what happened and like you said and he
• 58:36
  respected my opinion. He said, look I respect your
• 58:38
  opinion. I'm going to pull it down
• 58:40
  because you asked me to and I respect you and well you know he
• 58:45
  lied to you, right? He's live streaming that stuff
• 58:48
  over and over, oh, on hit. Well, the actual video.
• 58:53
  He said he pulled it out. So you're saying it's still
• 58:55
  playing on the live stream. Yeah, you still He throws it
• 58:59
  into his obeah streamer, I guess.
• 59:01
  Well then, I probably need to point that out to him.
• 59:03
  He just has his playlist play but still, it shouldn't be
• 59:06
  playing if it's unlisted. So if he did that, I will
• 59:10
  confront him about that. Like I said, it's not right.
• 59:12
  I don't agree with that. It's one thing to say, hey, I
• 59:16
  disagree with this person, I don't trust their opinion.
• 59:19
  I don't trust them, it's another thing to say you're overweight,
• 59:23
  which I'm right there with you. So no judgment from me, right?
• 59:30
  It's just like, I always say we don't need to go to personal
• 59:34
  attacks. Why not just talk about the
• 59:36
  truth, the story and what happens, you know?
• 59:39
  And that's where I disagree with people and even send you.
• 59:43
  A lot of times, believe me there's a lot of things she's
• 59:45
  wanted to say. She hasn't because I've gone to
• 59:47
  her and said, look, you're being just like Kent, let's not do
• 59:50
  that. And she's like, you're right, I
• 59:51
  shouldn't do that, you know? And even she agreed with me.
• 59:54
  That what Mark said about you was wrong about the manatee
• 59:58
  thing and all that. So I have no problem saying that
• 1:00:01
  publicly what you do realize Nick.
• 1:00:03
  It's not his own work. He obviously he copied it from
• 1:00:06
  atheist. Yep.
• 1:00:08
  Yeah that's right. It doesn't really bother me but
• 1:00:18
  he's been sitting over there and I'm hoping this technology
• 1:00:21
  works. Saying that he wants me to make
• 1:00:26
  a shirt called who flung The Poo, I might do that.
• 1:00:30
  Who knows? Who knows?
• 1:00:31
  So hacks, what your story? Well, I'm not really sure where
• 1:00:36
  to start. I suppose.
• 1:00:37
  A short story is, I love art. I love Tech.
• 1:00:39
  I've been a producer, and only as a hobby for about maybe 14
• 1:00:44
  years or so. You guys, once you pass 10 years
• 1:00:46
  and I'll sort of Blends together so far, I've dabbled in
• 1:00:50
  scripting and programming. I went to school for programming
• 1:00:53
  but not dropped out of that because I felt like Like I was
• 1:00:55
  wasting my time, the teachers wouldn't really even teach you
• 1:00:57
  anything that would just send you YouTube videos and say here
• 1:01:00
  watch this and I ask you questions tomorrow night.
• 1:01:04
  I'm paying you thousands of dollars while you're not
• 1:01:06
  teaching me anything. Anyway, I am a Christian.
• 1:01:12
  I do believe in the Life Death and resurrection of Jesus
• 1:01:15
  Christ. And I've been listening to your
• 1:01:17
  show for a few weeks here and there, when I'm at work, I
• 1:01:21
  listen to music and podcast pretty much all day.
• 1:01:24
  I discovered your show on Spotify.
• 1:01:27
  So I would tune in here and there, and it's always enjoyable
• 1:01:30
  to listen to the live streams. I have to say, though, with all
• 1:01:35
  due respect, I understand that even frustrated with the people
• 1:01:39
  who come in with music and with horrible quality.
• 1:01:43
  Also, I pursued quality and I appreciate it, but I don't
• 1:01:48
  really think I was for my first time being here.
• 1:01:51
  I don't think I was treated with as much respect.
• 1:01:53
  So like saying Hex, please mute. That's pretty much all I needed
• 1:01:57
  to sort of being exploded on to mute my f and Mike.
• 1:02:00
  But like I said, I understand that you're frustrated,
• 1:02:03
  especially with the nonsense you've been dealing with from
• 1:02:05
  people, the past few weeks, or months, or probably even longer.
• 1:02:10
  But I act, it's not about how good, the music sounds or
• 1:02:14
  whatever. The problem is, is a lot of the
• 1:02:16
  people that come in to try to mess with the stream.
• 1:02:19
  They know that if they play copyright music, it'll cause my
• 1:02:22
  life show to get messed up. Really.
• 1:02:25
  So that's the issue right there. If I hear the music, then I'm
• 1:02:28
  instantly going to go into destroy mode.
• 1:02:32
  So what you just heard like a few while ago, a little while
• 1:02:35
  ago, was me typing but see I have, I have a noise cancel of
• 1:02:38
  using a. I didn't think it would pick up
• 1:02:40
  my typing because usually, it doesn't.
• 1:02:41
  So, I was surprised when you heard I was, oh gosh, I'm sorry.
• 1:02:45
  So I sincerely apologize for that.
• 1:02:48
  That's all good. No problem sounds like
• 1:02:50
  everything's working. Now I'm glad you enjoy the
• 1:02:53
  streams and the Radio and all that Adam.
• 1:02:56
  You got any questions for necklace or mr.
• 1:03:00
  Hax, Hax, Hax. How did you find Brett's show on
• 1:03:10
  Spotify? Like what were you looking
• 1:03:11
  around for? I was in a debate and, and I was
• 1:03:17
  looking for Kent hovind, which I know that's like a name that we
• 1:03:22
  do not say anymore. I was looking just like to
• 1:03:26
  remember something he had said and video years and years ago.
• 1:03:30
  So looking to see if maybe he had a podcast.
• 1:03:32
  So I checked Spotify type in his name and God TV radio came up,
• 1:03:38
  featuring Kent. So, listen to it, thoroughly
• 1:03:41
  enjoyed. I enjoyed Brett Ashley more than
• 1:03:43
  Kansas. And another something that's not
• 1:03:47
  really said so much. I've heard not all of the
• 1:03:50
  strings but a good majority of them and I really just enjoy the
• 1:03:54
  show. Show.
• 1:03:55
  And I forgot where I was going with that actually, but yeah,
• 1:03:59
  that's pretty much how I found I was looking for something.
• 1:04:01
  Found Kent, found the show and been listening ever since.
• 1:04:06
  Yeah, I agree. It has some really cool things
• 1:04:09
  to say. Yeah, I got in case some people
• 1:04:14
  out there, haven't listened to radio, while I was supporting
• 1:04:17
  kantham mad. I put a lot of their material up
• 1:04:20
  and I did get permission from both of them to do that.
• 1:04:23
  So it's not like I just grabbed it and went went to town with
• 1:04:26
  it. I People realize I don't have
• 1:04:29
  any problems with people, expressing their opinions about
• 1:04:32
  some of the people we dealt with in the past but you need to know
• 1:04:37
  as far as damn. That Echo.
• 1:04:40
  Kind of distracted me a little bit of it.
• 1:04:42
  There is going to be more tracks being put up there.
• 1:04:45
  More radio shows, obviously people can set that up.
• 1:04:49
  Adam, have you checked it out and you listen to the Spotify
• 1:04:52
  and what your thoughts as well as water.
• 1:04:55
  Now, I don't, I don't really use Spotify.
• 1:04:58
  Fair enough. Fair enough.
• 1:05:00
  I did check it out. It was pretty cool.
• 1:05:03
  I oh now I remember what I was going to say.
• 1:05:05
  I don't have a problem with like the kind of videos that map
• 1:05:10
  Powell has on his public Channel or can Tobin.
• 1:05:13
  I when I made my videos, disagreeing with them, it has
• 1:05:17
  nothing to do with what they say about Evolution or any of the
• 1:05:21
  issues that they have on that front.
• 1:05:23
  It was just basically personal issues, nothing to do with their
• 1:05:27
  their argument. Ation whatsoever.
• 1:05:29
  You guys realize that right? Yeah, I agree with you on that.
• 1:05:36
  I also want to say to I'm not like I said, I'm not trying to
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  bash Bull and I do think there's part of him that's trying to do
• 1:05:44
  what's right and trying to be a good person, you know.
• 1:05:48
  And like I said it's not personal.
• 1:05:50
  I mean I hate it when people attack him as being a father or
• 1:05:54
  other things like what does that have to do with his views on
• 1:05:57
  Kent and other people like this. I mean I agree with most of
• 1:06:01
  Kent's message there's a few things.
• 1:06:02
  Like I said he needs to update and change you know but at the
• 1:06:05
  same time Time was I do with personal stuff?
• 1:06:08
  Let's just talk about the issues, you know, so that's
• 1:06:11
  yeah. All right here.
• 1:06:12
  Yeah, I agree with Jonah. If you got a problem with
• 1:06:16
  somebody and you got to go after them, there's no need to bring
• 1:06:19
  in everybody else unless the other people have chosen to
• 1:06:23
  participate. Oh by the way folks if you get a
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  chance, make sure you subscribe to mr.
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  Will Kincaid. He's my first Patron.
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  And every time I get a patron, I am going to list all the Woof
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  and give them shoutouts on video as promised.
• 1:06:39
  Mr. Rankin, and LaFleur. What are you here?
• 1:06:42
  Hold on one second. We got a new person in here.
• 1:06:44
  Rick. What's your story?
• 1:06:46
  What is your theological position?
• 1:06:48
  Political disposition? You know, i-i've been through a
• 1:06:52
  lot like I'm an atheist right now but I'm willing to hear out
• 1:06:56
  both sides. All right, Rick will welcome to
• 1:07:00
  the room. Everybody's welcome in here.
• 1:07:03
  We were just talking about witches and cauldrons snakes
• 1:07:07
  under pillows and crazy stuff now.
• 1:07:11
  I mean, I am so familiar with you Brett.
• 1:07:15
  I Through the Grapevine, I heard you did some stuff throughout
• 1:07:17
  the years. I didn't know like what's your
• 1:07:21
  I'm done? Are you opposed to me just
• 1:07:23
  asking these questions here, I just Well, you can ask me stuff.
• 1:07:27
  We usually like to stick with, you know, stuff with science, or
• 1:07:31
  theological having to do with religion and God and all that,
• 1:07:34
  we try to do shows where we talk about things that are going on
• 1:07:38
  in the news. But there are some people that
• 1:07:40
  we've had some personal issues with as of recent Will
• 1:07:44
  apparently necklace has been on this adventure for quite some
• 1:07:47
  time and he's just telling us giving us the lowdown of what's
• 1:07:52
  happening. What is it that you want to ask
• 1:07:54
  me Rick? Well, I mean what is your
• 1:07:58
  current position? Because I heard that like you've
• 1:08:00
  you've kind of like you were Christian and then you were an
• 1:08:03
  atheist or Ike how did that go? Well whenever I was a child and
• 1:08:08
  going in and out of foster care and all that.
• 1:08:10
  I went to different churches because I was made to go to
• 1:08:13
  church whenever I was a kid, I don't really count that as being
• 1:08:17
  a Christian or an atheist when you're a kid.
• 1:08:20
  You don't really somebody's ordered as beating the piss out
• 1:08:23
  of their microphone. Is that okay?
• 1:08:26
  Okay, yeah, just meet my so I don't really count that.
• 1:08:30
  I ended up becoming a, I would say a full-blown skeptic in my
• 1:08:34
  teenage years, had some tragedy, some issues happen and spent
• 1:08:39
  over a decade basically making videos against religion, then
• 1:08:42
  the concept of God. And then I had some personal
• 1:08:46
  experiences and also spending a lot of time personal time with
• 1:08:50
  religious folks, I started realizing that it makes more
• 1:08:53
  rational logical sense that there's a higher power.
• 1:08:56
  As opposed to a spoofing into existence from some kind of
• 1:08:59
  magic nothingness at The Atheist.
• 1:09:01
  Lawrence Krauss talks about now now that's that's, that's
• 1:09:05
  interesting. You say like poofing in from
• 1:09:08
  nothingness? Isn't that like what God
• 1:09:10
  literally did though, like, I'm just trying to play Devil's
• 1:09:12
  Advocate. Like I said, I'm open to both
• 1:09:13
  sides. That isn't that for the
• 1:09:15
  definition, the definition of God, which by the way I do have
• 1:09:19
  to compliment mr. Kent hovind.
• 1:09:21
  Even. I got issues with them the way
• 1:09:23
  he describes God as an eternal being Existed before space time
• 1:09:28
  and matter as a prime mover creating things.
• 1:09:31
  Excellent video. If anybody has never seen that
• 1:09:34
  before, but I believe that God was, is basically an eternal
• 1:09:39
  being that exists outside of it. And he is the one that moved and
• 1:09:44
  and created the universe and existence.
• 1:09:46
  Now as far as atheist go because they believe most of them
• 1:09:50
  commonly believe in the Big Bang, they're believing in a
• 1:09:53
  supernatural universal theory by Doing so, yeah.
• 1:09:59
  But I wish they'd know what I would say is, that's why they're
• 1:10:03
  both a faith, you know what I mean?
• 1:10:05
  But, I did want to say to guys, it needs a new computer.
• 1:10:09
  So go to his. What is it?
• 1:10:12
  The blanking on it. The where you can go donate to
• 1:10:16
  help others the GoFundMe for the computer.
• 1:10:19
  Yeah, guys, go ahead and just make sure you don't do the
• 1:10:24
  donate to go fund me. You gotta you Watch for that.
• 1:10:27
  But you know, anything would help us.
• 1:10:29
  I know how it is and have an old computer and stuff and I really
• 1:10:33
  enjoy your shows and I just hope you guys support him and do the
• 1:10:35
  same thing. I'm probably Nicholas to be
• 1:10:38
  honest with ya. Probably eventually be getting
• 1:10:40
  rid of the GoFundMe and thing. The patreon seems better.
• 1:10:43
  I know that there's nobody out there, he's going to be able to
• 1:10:46
  make that kind of donation for the computer.
• 1:10:48
  I got picked out, so if people go over and they want to just do
• 1:10:51
  five bucks or a couple bucks or whatever, they can get around
• 1:10:55
  that. Nicholas, thank you for all the
• 1:10:57
  help that you've been doing. If you got more stories for his,
• 1:10:59
  I'll hear it. I'm gonna be like to see like an
• 1:11:02
  employee or what? Well, I'm thinking about hiring
• 1:11:05
  him up. He is definitely very helpful.
• 1:11:07
  He's good man. So Rick, I'm not employed, I
• 1:11:11
  just like I said, let me just say, I mean I'm not even here to
• 1:11:16
  talk about getting all that. I just want to say I want story,
• 1:11:19
  I am here because I love talking about creation.
• 1:11:22
  I love talking about the tech aliens, you know, Fallen Angels,
• 1:11:26
  all that stuff and I really enjoy this stuff.
• 1:11:28
  I watch all breaths, other shows, it's been brought up
• 1:11:31
  because people ask about it so I'll tell but that's not why I'm
• 1:11:34
  here. I'm here because I really
• 1:11:35
  enjoyed the other conversations and that's what I love the most.
• 1:11:39
  So I just thought me Brett was, you know, hey man, I'll give you
• 1:11:42
  a 10% of these because I'm not trying to no no no necklace is
• 1:11:47
  actually Nikolas. Is actually done some nice
• 1:11:50
  things financially and stuff. We're most of us though were
• 1:11:54
  pretty damn poor and just trying to Survive in this.
• 1:11:57
  Hold rough, cold world. Sometimes the Rick Rick.
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  What some of your other questions that you got?
• 1:12:04
  Well I mean I guess so like I have some issues with the Bible
• 1:12:09
  specifically like part of the reason I don't believe is just
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  there's so for example like I stated that God is like all
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  powerful. Yeah like we know that type of
• 1:12:18
  concept is not possible. Well I believe that God can do
• 1:12:23
  whatever is logically possible. I'm not sure on the attribute of
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  all-powerful. I do think that there are things
• 1:12:29
  like God is not going to create a squared Circle and all that
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  kind of write like a large Bachelor.
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  Yeah I see God is a logical rational being he's not going to
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  do something that is irrational. So I guess my biggest thing is
• 1:12:44
  like if God like God created like these types of concepts of
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  so why would he deliberately put those Drinks on himself.
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  What constraints do you speak of?
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  He created logic. So why would he like restrain
• 1:12:59
  himself with that logic? Why would why would you say
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  that? He constrained himself with
• 1:13:04
  Logic for because he created logic and therefore if he
• 1:13:09
  created those Concepts that logically cannot be broken, then
• 1:13:12
  why would he why would he make those and apply them to himself?
• 1:13:16
  Hmm, don't understand that question.
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  Do you figure out what he's talking about?
• 1:13:22
  I understand what he's saying, but no, he doesn't though.
• 1:13:25
  God, God can make a square and a circle.
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  Like, that's, that's what's so amazing about him.
• 1:13:29
  He can't do those things now. Yes, he's a logical God.
• 1:13:32
  He's now, do I understand everything about him.
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  If I did, he wouldn't be a very powerful.
• 1:13:36
  God. I mean that's, that's one thing
• 1:13:39
  that I have always admired about God.
• 1:13:41
  I don't have all the answers, I don't know everything.
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  One day, I will. When I go to be with him and
• 1:13:46
  have a relationship with him, you know, and that's my choice
• 1:13:49
  and that's what makes it so good about.
• 1:13:51
  Our God is that it's a relationship and it's our
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  choice. It shouldn't be.
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  No, sorry. Sorry.
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  I was in the say, I mean, the question about, oh, he created
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  logic and so, isn't he constrained by that logic that
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  logic is something for us as humans to understand where the
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  ones restrained by. I mean, we just have a
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  simplistic understanding of what's going on and God is
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  outside of all that. So it's a it's a limit that's
• 1:14:21
  applied to us but not God. Okay, so my next question is
• 1:14:25
  like in the kind of the point I was trying to build to was if
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  God can do these things. Why didn't he create like, you
• 1:14:31
  know, 10% less suffering, the world, if it wasn't because he
• 1:14:34
  can create a situation where an equal, the same outcome.
• 1:14:37
  If he can do all these things. No, no clue.
• 1:14:40
  I couldnt whenever you get them, you can ask him about it.
• 1:14:43
  We we're not pretending as though.
• 1:14:45
  We understand the full Mind Of God, even if you read the Bible,
• 1:14:49
  then you know that it even says that he's not a man that he
• 1:14:52
  should have the same thoughts or ideas or thoughts.
• 1:14:55
  We do on this right? And like I was It's like but
• 1:14:59
  it's like little things such as that that add up for me.
• 1:15:02
  The make it difficult for me to accept that that's what really
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  happened and that's what's real. When there's very you know real
• 1:15:09
  world things that we can look to that.
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  Don't show there's a guy like when you look into the universe
• 1:15:14
  you can't just assume there's a power in there because that's
• 1:15:17
  our tainted bias when we look into it with the interpretation
• 1:15:20
  from, you know, a religion. And that's why all these
• 1:15:22
  religions have their own creation stories and their own
• 1:15:24
  interpretations of what nature looks.
• 1:15:28
  What how nature looks, you know? And that's why the Christian
• 1:15:31
  Sees, God, the Muslims Allah, which you have those, same God,
• 1:15:34
  whatever the Hindus see like Vishnu and they see, you know,
• 1:15:37
  reincarnation ever. And there's all these different
• 1:15:40
  interpretations. It's just depending what lens
• 1:15:43
  you look through. I'm having to work Rick.
• 1:15:45
  Do you believe that logic and rationality require a mind in
• 1:15:50
  order to be comprehended by its definition to comprehend
• 1:15:54
  something? You have to have an
• 1:15:55
  intelligence. Those two things are
• 1:15:57
  inextricably, Clinic strictly linked but I mean logic would
• 1:16:01
  exist without a mind to understand it.
• 1:16:03
  Yeah, you need a mind. But logically exist, regardless,
• 1:16:05
  like two plus two, doesn't stop being true because whoever
• 1:16:08
  humans dead but but who made that true?
• 1:16:13
  Why does anything have to make a constant true?
• 1:16:16
  Well, that's the whole point though.
• 1:16:18
  Is like and my what my answer to you would be that without free
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  will, then we would all just be robots and pre-programmed.
• 1:16:28
  Sure God could have created this differently.
• 1:16:30
  He could have created us to follow him and not suffer but
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  that's that's that's just like we could create a i and other
• 1:16:36
  things to not have those parameters, right?
• 1:16:40
  But that's not the same as a being who loves.
• 1:16:42
  That's why I have a problem with religion.
• 1:16:45
  I have a relationship, right? I have a relationship with God.
• 1:16:48
  I don't believe in religion, I don't believe in all these other
• 1:16:52
  things. Right to me it's a relationship
• 1:16:54
  with God who loves us who you know, sent his son to Die For Us
• 1:16:57
  aware. But you mean like you mean just
• 1:16:59
  like the feeling you get not like he actually talks to you
• 1:17:01
  right? Oh absolutely no.
• 1:17:04
  I mean I mean he talks and sewers were I mean that's why he
• 1:17:06
  gave us his word. That's why I definitely believe
• 1:17:10
  that now. Sure.
• 1:17:11
  Some people say they hear that I would not my point.
• 1:17:13
  I'm not I don't know you. I'm sure God speaks to some
• 1:17:16
  people, Stephen, there are times.
• 1:17:18
  I will say I have heard things like, but at the same time, it's
• 1:17:22
  to me, it's about a relationship.
• 1:17:23
  It's about a choice, it's about Freedom, it's about free will.
• 1:17:28
  If there was no sin, no suffering, and always I think,
• 1:17:31
  eventually God will come back and said all the straight he
• 1:17:33
  talks about in his word. He says, there will be a white
• 1:17:35
  Throne judgment. There will be a judgment where
• 1:17:37
  we all face God and all these things will be set straight but
• 1:17:40
  right now, you know, we have free will and without that, it
• 1:17:44
  is not true. Love.
• 1:17:45
  Like I talked about this in the last show, two of his
• 1:17:48
  Commandments are to love God with all your mind and soul and
• 1:17:52
  mind and soul and the other one is to love your neighbor as
• 1:17:54
  yourself and you know, without that's why no other commandment,
• 1:17:59
  does he mention twice? That's why I love so important.
• 1:18:02
  And if we're just programmed and we're just told, you know, and
• 1:18:07
  set a certain way to do things like you're saying, oh, well,
• 1:18:10
  couldn't he do a world with this and that?
• 1:18:11
  Yeah, he could do that. But that's not the same as
• 1:18:14
  people who choose Is to be with them and have a relationship and
• 1:18:17
  want to be there. So the people that would keep in
• 1:18:20
  mind, you do necklace at God, when he originally created the
• 1:18:23
  world, he created Adam and Eve, he originally created it all
• 1:18:27
  good and perfect without suffering death.
• 1:18:30
  Not Adam and Steve, right? So, yeah, I guess Rick Rick.
• 1:18:34
  I mean, we've we've answered some questions.
• 1:18:36
  I'd like to know what you believe in, though.
• 1:18:38
  What you actually think. How do you think that the
• 1:18:41
  Universe God here? Well, Brett, that's a, that's a
• 1:18:44
  complicated question. Ian.
• 1:18:47
  Man, what do what does Rick believe?
• 1:18:51
  I mean at the end of the day, like nothing, you know, like if
• 1:18:58
  I had to really focus on it would probably be like, you
• 1:19:01
  know, like This is gonna sound like you guys got a bear with
• 1:19:06
  me. Alright.
• 1:19:06
  Can I get an agreement for you guys?
• 1:19:07
  You'll bear with me? Absolutely.
• 1:19:09
  Well, what's up? Instead of just asking a
• 1:19:12
  question why? I don't want to be here in like
• 1:19:16
  a big long ramp? Let's just go with.
• 1:19:19
  Okay listen, Rick comment down, relax Rick.
• 1:19:23
  Do you believe in the? Do you believe in The Big Bang
• 1:19:25
  Theory? Rick.
• 1:19:27
  I don't know. I was going to I was gonna get
• 1:19:29
  in my thing but I mean if you want to tell me what I believe,
• 1:19:31
  that's fine. No I wanted I wanted to ask you
• 1:19:34
  a question real quick. Sure.
• 1:19:36
  Hey Rick. Are you a drunken peasants
• 1:19:38
  Fanboy chance. Are those the guys is that he
• 1:19:43
  got them called out. Yeah, I saw that come to mind
• 1:19:46
  for me, already made by a rat. See that's what I'm talking
• 1:19:50
  about are talking about the spider sense is tingling like
• 1:19:53
  the second someone comes in the room.
• 1:19:55
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:19:56
  All kind of found this in him and he didn't say hi to me,
• 1:19:58
  which I found very disrespectful.
• 1:20:01
  It was very disrespectful. Well, he started off by saying
• 1:20:04
  he wanted to talk about the Fermi Paradox which I thought
• 1:20:07
  was a very interesting topic. That's what he had put in the
• 1:20:09
  private. Chat.
• 1:20:11
  Well, we might yeah. Yeah.
• 1:20:13
  He wasn't fully honest and everything.
• 1:20:17
  Why don't? I don't believe in nothing.
• 1:20:40
  Is that right? Brad?
• 1:20:42
  What did I tell you? When I came in at the beginning
• 1:20:44
  of this conversation I told you they were going to be popping
• 1:20:47
  in. Yeah.
• 1:20:49
  Yeah. So it is what it is.
• 1:20:52
  Well the thing is it seems like so many drunken peasants fans.
• 1:20:55
  They think they have to like put on this front and pretend as
• 1:20:59
  I've just come in and have a conversation.
• 1:21:02
  Like it's like, it's like you can't contain himself.
• 1:21:04
  He's waiting to say some controversial thing in a minute,
• 1:21:07
  you know what it is. You know what it is.
• 1:21:09
  It's your god-given Intuition and get you get God give you
• 1:21:12
  specialize so that you can get the gift of discernment.
• 1:21:19
  Yeah. Rick to be honest with you,
• 1:21:21
  we're trying to have like a, an actual conversation.
• 1:21:23
  We don't want to hear some big long rant.
• 1:21:26
  That's why I was saying while you repeatedly interrupted the
• 1:21:28
  host of the show that lets get into specific questions.
• 1:21:32
  Do you believe in The Big Bang Theory D believing that he
• 1:21:35
  biogenesis Evolution, all that kind of stuff?
• 1:21:38
  Trying to figure out where you're coming from and if you
• 1:21:40
  Going to give us well really believe.
• 1:21:42
  Nothing, Well conversations over.
• 1:21:44
  You sucks. That's boring.
• 1:21:46
  Boring stuff. So well, how you been doing, how
• 1:21:49
  to kids I'm alright it was my me and my wife's dating anniversary
• 1:21:55
  because we keep track of those things still, even though we've
• 1:21:57
  been married for almost three years next week's my wedding
• 1:22:00
  anniversary. So we went out tonight, we had a
• 1:22:02
  good time. There you go, man.
• 1:22:04
  There you go. That's awesome.
• 1:22:07
  That's awesome. Boy, I got us because haircut
• 1:22:09
  today, he wasn't thrilled about it.
• 1:22:13
  Oof, what we got mr. Heck, still in here, you want to
• 1:22:16
  try asking him some questions, see where he's coming from or is
• 1:22:19
  your spidey sense is tingling? In there, Adam.
• 1:22:23
  No, I trust hacks. He seems like he actually
• 1:22:26
  stumbled upon it on Spotify like he said, fair enough.
• 1:22:30
  Fair enough. So hacked.
• 1:22:34
  You already said that. You do believe in God, though.
• 1:22:36
  Correct your theist. Yes, sir.
• 1:22:39
  Absolutely. Alright, alright, so you got any
• 1:22:44
  suggestions, is there anything that you buy?
• 1:22:46
  You think that you would like to hear a whole bunch on the whole
• 1:22:49
  radio thing? I mean said you were listening
• 1:22:51
  to it for a while. I want to get into a quick
• 1:22:55
  conversation with you actually one of the most recent video, I
• 1:22:58
  think you put out you were talking about God creating evil
• 1:23:01
  and I was like, oh this is this is fascinating.
• 1:23:03
  Let's just see what Brett has to say.
• 1:23:05
  And you gave some verses and I think one of actually wrote them
• 1:23:09
  down and I took notes on everything, I wanted to talk to
• 1:23:13
  you about so I could, I did come prepared.
• 1:23:16
  All right, fair enough. So what's your questions about
• 1:23:20
  it? Let's see.
• 1:23:22
  Let's go through my notes real quick.
• 1:23:24
  Alright so Psalms Psalms 55 you said therefore the proud may not
• 1:23:31
  stand in your presence for you hate all who do evil.
• 1:23:35
  See the one that really got to me was the Luke 14:25 where
• 1:23:40
  Jesus were saying, if you want to be my disciple you must by
• 1:23:42
  comparison. Hey, everyone else, your father,
• 1:23:45
  your mother, your wife, your children, your brothers, and
• 1:23:47
  sisters, and yes, even your own life.
• 1:23:52
  He so yes. I said like you add.
• 1:23:53
  That Jesus says, you're pretty much going to be ruined us what
• 1:23:56
  you said in the video that you're Roland and you're going
• 1:23:59
  to perish. But that's not true.
• 1:24:00
  He just said that. You just cannot be my disciple.
• 1:24:03
  And this word hate in the sense of the word comparison is not in
• 1:24:07
  the, in the scripture whatsoever.
• 1:24:09
  That's kind of a not to be cold on you but you kind of added a
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  bunch of words there, it doesn't say anything about
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  differentiating or come to Paris and in that verse about it in
• 1:24:20
  order to follow me, You must hate your mother.
• 1:24:23
  Father brother, sister and the hamster in the cage or wherever
• 1:24:26
  you want to go with that. That's how it goes.
• 1:24:28
  It doesn't say comparison or differentiate what version of
• 1:24:32
  the Bible are you reading? So I can look it up I switch
• 1:24:36
  back and forth for a bunch of them.
• 1:24:37
  So I go through the New Living Translation of translation in
• 1:24:40
  the Amplified Bible translation. So I go back and forth.
• 1:24:45
  Like if I'm starting a script like this doesn't make sense,
• 1:24:47
  then I'll go to another translation and see if maybe I
• 1:24:50
  can compare contrast. Always check KJV 2 about to
• 1:24:54
  also. But it's the KJV to me, it's
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  just It's weird because they had sayings back then.
• 1:25:03
  And the KJV times that we don't use today, they have metaphors.
• 1:25:06
  So sort of like if you were to go back in that time and say,
• 1:25:09
  man, I'm on top of the world today.
• 1:25:11
  There's been a good day. They're not going to have a clue
• 1:25:13
  what you're talking about. And so I think it's the Bible's
• 1:25:16
  hard to understand our already. Even Peter are not sort of Peter
• 1:25:20
  Paul says that. So I think it's important to get
• 1:25:22
  a translation that you really understand.
• 1:25:25
  Well, can I say something? I don't want to over over, talk
• 1:25:29
  to you. Rhett so well sure Nick but I do
• 1:25:32
  got to ask all the Believers in the room.
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  Do you believe that God created all things and everything in
• 1:25:37
  physical and objective reality is from God.
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  Me personally. Yes.
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  Okay, so what about you, Nick? Oh yeah, you broke up a little
• 1:25:48
  when he said that. Okay.
• 1:25:50
  Do you believe that God is the creator of all things?
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  All that exists with the nature and physical existence of
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  objective reality? Oh, absolutely.
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  Okay. Just making sure.
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  So remember what you said if we continue on this conversation,
• 1:26:06
  all right, go ahead. You got more for me, Nick.
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  Yeah. So what he talks about The
• 1:26:12
  problem I have with the other translations is that they if you
• 1:26:17
  really start studying into it and stuff, they attack the deity
• 1:26:20
  of Christ, they attack them about God being from
• 1:26:23
  Everlasting, they actually change the verses where he's
• 1:26:27
  from a point you know when he starts you know.
• 1:26:30
  So you really have to be no I don't have a problem reading,
• 1:26:32
  those looking at them because they do tend to go into other
• 1:26:35
  words and change things and stuff.
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  But I always go back to the KJV and even before that you know,
• 1:26:40
  the where it was Waiting for that because what I'm trying to
• 1:26:44
  find my Doctrine and stuff, you know, I want to, you can look up
• 1:26:49
  from the case review, what they meant back then it's not like we
• 1:26:52
  can't find that today. You know what I mean?
• 1:26:54
  The problem is when you look at these, other Bible verses, I
• 1:26:56
  mean Satan, this is what he does, he wants to attack and
• 1:27:00
  destroy all of it and so we have to be very careful where we get
• 1:27:04
  our Doctrine from where we get our ideas from.
• 1:27:06
  And the, the problem I have with these other translations is that
• 1:27:10
  they actually attack the deity of Christ.
• 1:27:11
  They Actually attack that God is from Everlasting, they attack a
• 1:27:16
  lot of things when you go through it all.
• 1:27:18
  So this is why I tend to hesitate when I read from the
• 1:27:21
  other verses. Now, I like looking at them.
• 1:27:23
  I like reading them, sometimes they add some insight, but when
• 1:27:26
  I go back to my Doctrine and my ideas, I always go back to the
• 1:27:30
  versions, you know, to the KJV and stuff to, to verify that.
• 1:27:38
  All right, fair enough. Fair enough.
• 1:27:40
  We so we got some 55. God, hates all workers of
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  iniquity Nick. What he means, transgressors
• 1:27:47
  against the law. That's what that is and
• 1:27:50
  transgression against the law. Usually is concluded as Sin.
• 1:27:54
  Everybody agree with that. Okay, so when God says he hates
• 1:28:00
  all workers of iniquity, it doesn't go along with that
• 1:28:03
  cliche thing that we hear a lot from some people where they say
• 1:28:06
  love The Sinner. But hate the sin.
• 1:28:10
  The Bible says that he has full Lorne loathing and detest.
• 1:28:15
  Sinners To apply. I mean the Bible does also talk
• 1:28:21
  about, you know, I watch your video on on the homosexuality
• 1:28:26
  and stuff the other day, I mean, I myself, I sent every day.
• 1:28:32
  I have problems every day. I mean, now Christ died for
• 1:28:35
  those sins, are forgiven me for those sentence, you know, I
• 1:28:38
  don't think it's might now. God May hate what they're doing.
• 1:28:41
  He hates what I do. He hates my sin to, you know,
• 1:28:44
  what I mean? But I think us were to love
• 1:28:47
  those. I mean, one of my friends
• 1:28:49
  recently just came out as transgender and you know, and I
• 1:28:52
  think he contacted me because I hadn't heard from him in a long
• 1:28:57
  time. I think he contacted me because
• 1:28:58
  he thought I was going to You say oh you're living in sin and
• 1:29:02
  it it's not how I responded. I'm like a night.
• 1:29:06
  Well if that's what they are happy for you and I hope you're
• 1:29:09
  okay. And if you ever need to talk I'm
• 1:29:11
  here and I'm praying for you. You know what I mean?
• 1:29:13
  Like it's not. Yes, no point were supposed to
• 1:29:18
  judge but at the same time, we're told to love or turn, you
• 1:29:21
  know, like some people will say and brother, somehow I want to
• 1:29:24
  bring up with you or people say, well, Brett didn't apologize for
• 1:29:27
  us to do this or that and therefore, Or we should turn.
• 1:29:31
  And I'm like, well, wait, tell me, where in scripture?
• 1:29:33
  It says turn the other cheek only if they repent, only if
• 1:29:38
  they apologize, it's not what it says.
• 1:29:41
  If they still your jack, You Know, Jack take the shirt off
• 1:29:44
  your back. That's what it says.
• 1:29:46
  It says, if they, you know, strike you turn the other cheek,
• 1:29:49
  it doesn't say only if they repent, that's not what it says,
• 1:29:52
  it all. I think our job is to be an
• 1:29:54
  example. I think our job is to love
• 1:29:56
  people and to be there for them and support them.
• 1:30:00
  Even if we don't agree with everything, even look, that's
• 1:30:03
  the holy spirit's job, it's the holy spirit's job to go and
• 1:30:05
  convict them and change them and show them the truth and reality.
• 1:30:09
  And you know, I mean that's why with me I was like I'm not
• 1:30:12
  trying to convince you to be on this side or that side with can
• 1:30:16
  all this other stuff that's not my job.
• 1:30:17
  My job is that it broke my heart when I saw that You know that
• 1:30:23
  you possibly losing your face a little bit because it's so many
• 1:30:26
  Christians attacking you and being so horrible to you, and it
• 1:30:30
  was just like, it's not right? I mean, it got really put it on
• 1:30:34
  my heart. I mean, I really enjoy your
• 1:30:37
  shows about the AI in the creation of the technology.
• 1:30:40
  And then you have some really good points and, you know, the
• 1:30:45
  other thing to Christians bashed, you about swear words
• 1:30:47
  and show me where in scripture talks about that the war those
• 1:30:51
  words today, our That's what scripture talks about is if you
• 1:30:56
  talk down to people, if you're using that as your retarded,
• 1:30:59
  your F and retardant that's wrong.
• 1:31:02
  I don't know. I don't necessarily know where
• 1:31:04
  it says saying f word or the asshole or fuck or what, it
• 1:31:09
  doesn't say that specifically, but it does say if you call
• 1:31:12
  someone names and talk down to them and treat them poorly.
• 1:31:15
  That's what's wrong, it's your heart.
• 1:31:17
  It's your, it's where you're coming from, you know.
• 1:31:20
  And that's why, you know what? I called that lady you know?
• 1:31:24
  Oh I can't heal the dogs and he was testing her heart.
• 1:31:28
  You know to see any ended up healing anyway, you know.
• 1:31:31
  And it was a hard thing you know.
• 1:31:34
  It's I guess that's where I struggle a little bit, you know,
• 1:31:38
  it's just I guess it really got really just put it on my heart
• 1:31:42
  because I just saw so many people abusing you and they
• 1:31:46
  didn't understand where you were coming from.
• 1:31:48
  They didn't understand what was like, guys.
• 1:31:50
  How many of us have? Been lied to and fooled and
• 1:31:54
  confused. And our job is to love them.
• 1:31:57
  Support them be there for them and let the Holy Spirit, take
• 1:32:01
  care of the rest. You know what I mean?
• 1:32:02
  And I guess that's where I come from.
• 1:32:04
  So I'm not sure enough, Nick, I appreciate you having concerned
• 1:32:08
  about my well-being and all that good stuff.
• 1:32:11
  Good stuff. Appreciate it.
• 1:32:17
  We got mr. Samish shot there.
• 1:32:19
  However, his name is pronounced, he says, Brett something can't
• 1:32:23
  come from nothing, where did God come from?
• 1:32:25
  God didn't come from nowhere. God always existed.
• 1:32:29
  That's how you're asking about something else.
• 1:32:31
  If you're going to put that out there that's not even definition
• 1:32:34
  of the concept of God. God is an eternal being.
• 1:32:37
  He wasn't born. You didn't come into existence.
• 1:32:40
  He simply is well not only that. How's it going?
• 1:32:44
  How's it go? I am the beginning.
• 1:32:46
  In the end, I am the Alpha and Omega.
• 1:32:50
  Not only that we admit that it's a faith.
• 1:32:53
  The problem is, they don't admit that it's a faith, right?
• 1:32:56
  They have to believe in the beginning.
• 1:32:58
  Nothing. We at least believe in the
• 1:33:00
  beginning, God, right? And we admit that, that's where
• 1:33:03
  we try to say. It's also a faith.
• 1:33:05
  Like you can't know that you believe that that happened and
• 1:33:09
  that's where, that's why it's atheism, right?
• 1:33:12
  They believe in the beginning. Nothing and where we say, So, at
• 1:33:17
  least we admit that it's a faith or remember what I said in my
• 1:33:21
  video, but debating atheist. If mr.
• 1:33:24
  Samar chapters like, the many atheists of me and Adam lower
• 1:33:28
  and others have ran into. He most likely believes in a
• 1:33:32
  supernatural Universe such as the Big Bang.
• 1:33:36
  Most likely believes that it just came into existence from
• 1:33:39
  nothingness. Why don't you come in here and
• 1:33:41
  talk to us about that? She must try to give us some
• 1:33:44
  kind of natural process for How the Universe.
• 1:33:46
  Nurse can come into existence like that.
• 1:33:50
  Looks like our buddies Adams. Back the Adam, I didn't realize
• 1:33:55
  that you fell out of the chat. What happened are mine?
• 1:34:00
  That is a boy for a minute. Well, we were getting into some
• 1:34:04
  Universal stuff with shamash. I doubt that'll actually come in
• 1:34:08
  for those who are saying things about Grayson and all that
• 1:34:11
  Grayson. I did invite him to actually
• 1:34:14
  have a discussion with Matt Powell.
• 1:34:16
  I wasn't sure if my power would actually show up kind of was out
• 1:34:20
  of his safe Zone. Matt likes it safe, you know,
• 1:34:24
  but as far as he did say, that he wouldn't be able to make it
• 1:34:29
  this Friday. I posted that in the community
• 1:34:31
  section, let people know that Grace and wasn't going to show
• 1:34:35
  up, but I don't think it was out of fear because he was rage
• 1:34:38
  quitting or that you know, Matt pal tickles him in the wrong
• 1:34:41
  way. Seems like a guy who's ready to
• 1:34:43
  rock from wrote this about anyone.
• 1:34:46
  I've debate, Matt Paul. It take me about 20 minutes to
• 1:34:51
  prep. I could do it.
• 1:34:54
  Well Matt however, decides that he wants to come on to the live
• 1:34:58
  show and have a debate and everything, you and Adam lower
• 1:35:01
  and more than welcome to have a discussion with him about his
• 1:35:04
  views. We're going to figure out if you
• 1:35:06
  guys came from rocks, or not, or dinosaur farts.
• 1:35:10
  Yeah, it's wonderful. Mount polish, just a wonderful
• 1:35:16
  human being, isn't he? I don't know.
• 1:35:21
  People, don't seem too happy with that.
• 1:35:23
  I am a message that he put on the answering machine.
• 1:35:26
  Whoa, man, that's for a number of reasons.
• 1:35:33
  He's afraid of you. What happened man?
• 1:35:35
  Just scare him in the coat closet or something would
• 1:35:37
  happen. Well, he saw what I did with the
• 1:35:41
  ice cream cone. Oh boy.
• 1:35:43
  I gotta watch out with those ice cream cones.
• 1:35:46
  Those are dangerous precious Knox, YouTube page like every
• 1:35:50
  day looking for videos about him so that he can do a and Ownage
• 1:35:55
  video or whatever on his channel.
• 1:35:58
  And then, you know, he said correspondence with a number of
• 1:36:03
  people that I'm quite close with.
• 1:36:06
  So I know quite a night. I know quite a great many things
• 1:36:11
  about Matt. So he's he's actually scared
• 1:36:14
  shitless of me on ironically as well.
• 1:36:18
  He should. It's rough.
• 1:36:21
  It's rough. Are you in mr.
• 1:36:23
  Ragin eat these getting along these days or do you still see
• 1:36:26
  him as a termite? No.
• 1:36:29
  I mean we're getting along. I disagree with him on things,
• 1:36:34
  but we watch football together on Sunday, kind of went out.
• 1:36:38
  Like hang out but we're watching the game at the same time
• 1:36:41
  talking shit so it's the one area of Our Lives where we can
• 1:36:47
  commiserate on something without having to talk about politics or
• 1:36:51
  religion Etc. Why I have learned that you
• 1:36:54
  don't get into playing video games with that guy boy.
• 1:36:57
  Oh boy, he gets freaked out. Doubt.
• 1:37:00
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was there for that whole
• 1:37:05
  sordid Affair. Hoof boil boy.
• 1:37:33
  Yeah. Maybe in 10 years we'll get out
• 1:37:35
  there scroll 6, right? Yeah.
• 1:37:38
  I don't know. I'm not holding my breath on
• 1:37:40
  that opposed to just seems like there.
• 1:37:43
  I don't know if they don't hit the ball out of the park with
• 1:37:46
  the Starfield. I really think that people
• 1:37:49
  aren't going to have the same trust after what they did to
• 1:37:51
  fall out 76. Oh man.
• 1:37:54
  A lot of people are concerned. Yeah, modern video games kind of
• 1:37:59
  suck in The Last Vestige of a decent game.
• 1:38:03
  Pretty much rests solely in the hands of the Festa or shit who
• 1:38:09
  made who made Fallout New Vegas, star obsidian.
• 1:38:16
  I'm City and yeah they've been absorbed by Microsoft to.
• 1:38:20
  Well, that's the right way to go about it.
• 1:38:22
  Man, they did good with their video game but mr.
• 1:38:26
  Adam, I think I think that you my know that you're more into
• 1:38:28
  the Retro type of stuff, but I think that you might actually
• 1:38:31
  like Starfield get your own ship and it looks realistic.
• 1:38:35
  You get to go visit planets and worlds and meet Aliens and you
• 1:38:40
  know colonize do all kinds of cool stuff.
• 1:38:43
  It's looks like it's turning out to be a great game and you're
• 1:38:46
  into the universe. So do nose.
• 1:38:50
  Yeah, I think I like the concept of it.
• 1:38:53
  Sounds interesting. I just don't like the style of
• 1:38:56
  game, like the style of graphics and gameplay and stuff.
• 1:39:02
  Right here, you there. Yeah, I feel bad for people.
• 1:39:05
  I think some of these people were waiting for, Matt Powell to
• 1:39:08
  show up and actually have a discussion and all that.
• 1:39:12
  I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:39:15
  I like to talk about Ai and like the Fallen Angels, aliens and
• 1:39:22
  technology and how that all plays together, like you started
• 1:39:25
  bringing that up last time and then it kind of got directed
• 1:39:28
  away. So I thought that'd be kind of
• 1:39:30
  be a cool conversation, right? Let's go with that.
• 1:39:33
  You think there's some kind of correlation with artificial
• 1:39:35
  intelligence and fallen angels. We could go that route Would you
• 1:39:46
  ask a question? And I have an opinion about it?
• 1:39:48
  What happened? I'm just waiting for him to
• 1:39:52
  respond. I don't know if his computer
• 1:39:54
  fell off onto his foot or something.
• 1:39:56
  Did you hear me, Nick? Can you hear me?
• 1:40:01
  We couldn't hear you. You must have forgot to unmute
• 1:40:03
  your microphone. Not working for you.
• 1:40:08
  Do you see a correlation between fallen angels and that of
• 1:40:14
  artificial intelligence? Well, yeah, I mean it look, if
• 1:40:17
  you look at Nikola Tesla and a lot of the other guys that into
• 1:40:21
  technology and stuff, I mean they talk about how they just
• 1:40:24
  got visions of the technology that they got that.
• 1:40:28
  No, just showed up that they didn't think of it, you know, I
• 1:40:32
  mean, many of these people talk about how I don't think it's
• 1:40:36
  aliens. I really think that it's Fallen
• 1:40:38
  Angels or other things, I mean, even the grey aliens and all
• 1:40:42
  that stuff, you know, they, they talk about how they didn't come
• 1:40:46
  up with these ideas and that they were shown the ideas and
• 1:40:49
  stuff like that. So I do feel that there's some
• 1:40:52
  kind of something behind that, right?
• 1:40:55
  I mean, I think that's why they're pushing all these
• 1:40:57
  superheroes and push. All this, you know, you can be
• 1:41:01
  like God basically, you know and with the genetic manipulation or
• 1:41:06
  the genetic engineering and stuff that's going to be coming,
• 1:41:10
  I do feel that now I thought I think all Technologies bad,
• 1:41:13
  absolutely not. I think that we can use
• 1:41:16
  technology for good, you know, I'm a big Tech Guy myself, but
• 1:41:20
  if you look at all these people back in the day, they talk about
• 1:41:24
  how they saw visions and how they didn't come up with these
• 1:41:27
  things and how it was Just shown to them.
• 1:41:29
  And so to me it's interesting and it's just it's just one of
• 1:41:32
  the theories I have, I don't necessarily think it's true.
• 1:41:35
  It's one of the theories I have. I really think that the
• 1:41:38
  Antichrist is going to be someone that they say you know
• 1:41:42
  as an alien quote on quote that comes personally I think it's
• 1:41:45
  from another dimension that comes down and you know how do
• 1:41:49
  you get the whole world to rise up against God?
• 1:41:52
  You get them to believe that. He's not God, right?
• 1:41:55
  That he's just another alien or another being and that You know,
• 1:41:59
  the Antichrist comes down and says hey I can heal you, I can
• 1:42:02
  do this, I can provide this, I've got all this technology,
• 1:42:05
  I've got all these, you know, life-extending tech tech.
• 1:42:08
  I mean look at Before the Flood, they had all kinds of things.
• 1:42:12
  I mean we can't even build the pyramids today.
• 1:42:14
  I guess we could but not like they did, you know, look at all
• 1:42:18
  of the megaliths and all the other things that's going on
• 1:42:21
  around the world. I mean, it's amazing to us when
• 1:42:24
  we look at that and go, oh that's why I have a problem with
• 1:42:27
  Evolution. We think we're getting bigger.
• 1:42:28
  bigger better and stronger but then when we look back and look
• 1:42:31
  at the technology in the things that they've had in the stuff
• 1:42:34
  that we found there called oops articles that basically don't,
• 1:42:42
  Aligned with ellucian other things that they do it to me.
• 1:42:45
  It just shows that man used to be bigger better smarter faster
• 1:42:50
  and the Reason God destroyed the world was because he wanted to
• 1:42:53
  stop that and slow that down and then they all got back together.
• 1:42:56
  Again, during the Tower of Babel, that's why God split up
• 1:42:59
  the languages because he didn't want them working together
• 1:43:02
  anymore because he knew it would go, right, back to the way it
• 1:43:04
  was before. And that's why we have so many
• 1:43:07
  symbols and different words for the same things.
• 1:43:10
  If you look at all these Colin quote, like the Masons and all
• 1:43:15
  that stuff. If you look a lot of their
• 1:43:17
  symbols are the same and stuff because their language has got
• 1:43:19
  changed, but the images were still the same.
• 1:43:22
  And that's how are they were still able to communicate?
• 1:43:25
  They then separated and went to different places in the world
• 1:43:27
  that God was able to slow down that rate and we are just now
• 1:43:32
  getting back to the point where we were before the flood where I
• 1:43:36
  mean, could you imagine if you live 900 years?
• 1:43:39
  Not only that Adam walked and talked with God, And how smart
• 1:43:43
  would he be? I mean, they found drawings of
• 1:43:46
  DNA and other Technologies and stuff.
• 1:43:48
  I mean, I think that God destroyed the world because we
• 1:43:51
  were genetically modifying things.
• 1:43:53
  We were creating things that called gotta be fair to have a
• 1:43:59
  woman with fucking dinner, so that's rough.
• 1:44:03
  Well, well hit, but here's what you don't understand.
• 1:44:06
  He did that on purpose, right? He knew exactly what he was
• 1:44:10
  doing. It's just like Me.
• 1:44:12
  I don't know. I'll send don't even touch the
• 1:44:14
  fucking thing and God didn't tell him that he told him that
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  just not to eat it. Yes.
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  But see, here's the thing. He sacrificed himself for his
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  wife because he didn't want her to be alone, right?
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  I mean a lot of us meant for hey, Nicholas, I'll be right
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  back in a moment you and will and Adam but go back and forth
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  the facts once a dump in there. He can.
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  So it looks like we got an even number here, we got to theists.
• 1:44:39
  And to I don't know what. Lives nowadays.
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  But he likes arguing either side and stuff.
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  The two hours you doing. Yeah, there is going to take
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  over for a moment. All right, all right.
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  That's good. Well, Adam forgot the Golden
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  Rule bros before hoes. So now you said he ate it
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  because he didn't want his wife to be a long.
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  I don't know. I think he sort of buckled under
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  pressure and he caved to passivity.
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  Which I think is an epidemic among most men, he was right
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  there with her, as the scripture say, he wasn't off somewhere and
• 1:45:17
  letters should make the decision to sacrifice for his woman
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  knowing that he would suffer and fall for her, but he did it
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  anyway, because he loves her that much.
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  No, no. Thatthat doesn't quite sell me.
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  Thank you. I think he buckled under
• 1:45:37
  pressure with Duda passivity, which I think most men kind of
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  deal with. Check out the pressure delete
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  this. I mean I think because I think I
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  think he knew it was wrong and he did it anyway, you know, for
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  his wife as a sacrifice but you know, it could be the other way
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  to maybe, he buckled Under Pressure, you know what I mean?
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  So the either way, I mean to me, the reason I think it was a
• 1:46:00
  sacrifice is because it was like another Jesus.
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  It was like, like there's many examples of Jesus throughout the
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  Bible before Jesus came into being and the Bible has Any
• 1:46:11
  examples of that and I think Adam was the first one who
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  knowingly knew he was doing wrong.
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  And he sacrificed himself anyway, because he was smart.
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  Because pre-program from God, it's not like the men today, who
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  are stupid and foolish and do things well, was he had a PS5,
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  he wouldn't have even heard his wife.
• 1:46:33
  Well on ate the fruit. Just saying there's something to
• 1:46:36
  be said for gamer culture. Maybe I do.
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  No. I'm just breaking balls.
• 1:46:45
  I'm just here to know and I'm all out of ass, you know.
• 1:46:53
  So here's a crazy question if so the fruit gave knowledge of Good
• 1:46:57
  and Evil how would he actually know that it was evil to eat it?
• 1:47:01
  If you had if you didn't have the knowledge of Good and Evil
• 1:47:03
  yet because because God told him that was there that was their
• 1:47:07
  first choice that was their first.
• 1:47:09
  He already knew if I eat this then I'm doing wrong, right?
• 1:47:14
  That's where Free Will comes in. That's my opinion.
• 1:47:17
  Yeah, I think really when it comes down to the knowledge of
• 1:47:21
  Good and Evil, I think it's more like the knowledge of fucking
• 1:47:24
  around and finding out, you know what I mean?
• 1:47:27
  You know really have knowledge and take yard fucked up.
• 1:47:31
  So I think it well not quite he was pre-programmed straight from
• 1:47:37
  the hand of God. So yes you're right, he didn't
• 1:47:40
  know people yet but he did know that his choice.
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  Would be against what God commanded him to do.
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  And then of course, yes, after that his eyes were open and then
• 1:47:50
  then he was able to make other other decisions and things.
• 1:47:54
  And that's where I think that's why I think about a good subtext
• 1:48:01
  for the, the Old Testament, the Old Testament, fuck around and
• 1:48:07
  find out because that's pretty much what the moral of the story
• 1:48:10
  is of the entire Old Testament. Wasn't invented until the 60s.
• 1:48:18
  Yeah, I mean that's actually that's what it is.
• 1:48:20
  Because see God came to them. It's like, hey here here's the
• 1:48:23
  rules and he was basically like I'll give you Mercy or I'll give
• 1:48:27
  you the rules and they're like, oh, we can handle this.
• 1:48:29
  No problem. Give us the rules.
• 1:48:31
  We're good. We're perfect.
• 1:48:33
  No worries, you know, and I think it was an example of none
• 1:48:38
  of us are good. None of us.
• 1:48:39
  Are, you know what I mean? And beforehand, they thought
• 1:48:41
  they could handle it. Where if they would have went to
• 1:48:43
  God and said, no Lord, we can't handle this.
• 1:48:46
  We want your mercy. See, we fall down on your mercy
• 1:48:49
  and effort to really overthink the Torah, or the Bible, or
• 1:48:56
  whatever the hell you want to call it.
• 1:48:58
  Because I, I've got a good life and I do I do, I say my prayers,
• 1:49:04
  I washed my hands. I flush twice after I take a
• 1:49:07
  dump. All right, I'm just trying to
• 1:49:08
  live out here, right. But the thing is, it's like I
• 1:49:12
  don't know too many omniscient. Omnipresent omnipotent.
• 1:49:17
  Spaceless Timeless fucking disembodied entities from extra
• 1:49:23
  dimensional space. I don't know if anybody else
• 1:49:25
  does out there, but I would figure that that that that
• 1:49:29
  entity would probably be Beyond human comprehension.
• 1:49:33
  So I only know I agree. I always say I could never
• 1:49:37
  understand everything about God, but but my question would be,
• 1:49:41
  how do you know you're doing good?
• 1:49:42
  I mean what tells you that? It's good.
• 1:49:44
  See, this is where to me. See all of the religions.
• 1:49:47
  I I started world religions in college and stuff and my teacher
• 1:49:50
  would be it up there. And be like, Oh, all religions
• 1:49:52
  are the same, they teach the basic principles.
• 1:49:54
  You got to be good, you gotta do this, you gotta do that.
• 1:49:57
  I was like, well yeah, Christian with the idea of Good and Evil
• 1:50:02
  in the human sense, actually, comes from desired outcomes.
• 1:50:06
  Now, God's version of human of good.
• 1:50:10
  Wouldn't come from the human version of Good and Evil, right?
• 1:50:15
  So it would if God has any logic at all?
• 1:50:20
  Well, I guess we could presuppose that it's his version
• 1:50:24
  of Good and Evil, since he created the universe, then
• 1:50:28
  obviously, that his the model of of good in the universe must be.
• 1:50:34
  Whatever it is precisely that. He the desired outcome and since
• 1:50:40
  we don't know the end from the beginning, there's no way we can
• 1:50:45
  fully comprehend it. But I mean it seems like he's
• 1:50:50
  got a pretty you know decent sized decent-sized encyclopedia
• 1:50:57
  and how to not fuck around and find out.
• 1:51:00
  Oh well I guess that's where I disagree and agree with you at
• 1:51:04
  the same time some of what you said.
• 1:51:06
  Said, right is good and evil actually comes to find from God,
• 1:51:13
  right? I believe that's what he put in
• 1:51:15
  our hearts. That's, that's actually the
• 1:51:16
  signature God in all of our hearts, right?
• 1:51:18
  Is that, we know what's right and what's wrong?
• 1:51:20
  That's what's so amazing about it.
• 1:51:22
  And my thing is see, we're all like I said, we're all other
• 1:51:25
  religions. You work your way to heaven.
• 1:51:28
  Christianity says, and I hate using that word for sharing
• 1:51:30
  because there's so many terrible people that claim Chris.
• 1:51:33
  Yeah I mean to me it's about a relationship.
• 1:51:38
  It's that it's nothing we can do.
• 1:51:41
  It's what he has done for us. It's a gift, right?
• 1:51:44
  So my teacher was teaching. Oh, it's all the same.
• 1:51:46
  We're going up different sides of the mountain.
• 1:51:48
  I'm like, no, it's not actually, the only Christianity is the
• 1:51:51
  only one that says, it's what he did for us.
• 1:51:54
  We're all the other religions are required what we do for him.
• 1:51:58
  And like, you were saying, oh, well, he's the one that defines
• 1:52:01
  it. And yeah, because I've used this
• 1:52:03
  example before, it's like when we have a Perfectly clean table,
• 1:52:08
  right? Whether you fill a soda or a
• 1:52:11
  speck of dust drops on it, it's no longer perfectly clean.
• 1:52:14
  In order for us to be with Christ or God and to be with
• 1:52:17
  him, we also have to be perfectly clean because it's not
• 1:52:20
  in his nature, right? And so I believe that God put
• 1:52:24
  that nature on our hearts. And that's why we know what is
• 1:52:27
  right and wrong. And even though we want to
• 1:52:29
  pretend like, we Define that, we know that we really don't.
• 1:52:32
  Because if you look at nature and you look at, I mean the Big
• 1:52:36
  cat breaks, the small cat that they kill the animals.
• 1:52:39
  They kill the innocent. Right?
• 1:52:41
  Where we in our hearts, we know, wait this isn't right?
• 1:52:44
  That's not the way God designed us where the allegory breaks
• 1:52:48
  down. Because there's no such thing as
• 1:52:50
  an innocent ever. It's just some things just are
• 1:52:54
  like in nature. It's like, okay.
• 1:52:57
  So a fucking wolf takes down a deer and orphans the deers Fawn.
• 1:53:03
  It's not evil that dinner. It's so let's say that's my
• 1:53:08
  point is you're right. There is no such thing as
• 1:53:10
  innocent. That's why we need a savior who
• 1:53:12
  was innocent who took our place. So we could be innocent to be
• 1:53:17
  with God, who is innocent and doesn't have no sense, right?
• 1:53:20
  And that to me, that's what the difference is.
• 1:53:24
  And that's what stands out about it.
• 1:53:25
  And that's where I have a problem with all these
• 1:53:28
  Christians who hate and call names and all these, because
• 1:53:32
  that is not what God teaches that.
• 1:53:34
  All right. It's not not about us, it's not
• 1:53:37
  sure. Just God hates sin.
• 1:53:38
  Yes, but he hates all equally. I mean, sure.
• 1:53:41
  Some are can be worth in our eyes.
• 1:53:44
  It can be worse than others and there are.
• 1:53:46
  But in the end though like I said, if you have a perfectly
• 1:53:49
  clean table, which is heaven or being with God, it doesn't
• 1:53:54
  matter. I you know, talk down to someone
• 1:53:58
  or I murdered someone. I'm no longer perfectly clean,
• 1:54:01
  right? And in order for us to be with
• 1:54:03
  God and in his presence because of his nature, This is why we
• 1:54:07
  need a savior who took our place and and to me that's what makes
• 1:54:11
  a difference. And in in my eyes, the greatest
• 1:54:14
  thing God ever did was put that signature on our heart and
• 1:54:17
  that's why we're able to look and say oh that's wrong or we
• 1:54:20
  feel bad when a wolf kills, you know, something innocent even
• 1:54:24
  though in nature it's not as just a stronger over the week
• 1:54:27
  but then why is he instantly feel it's wrong as Hitler,
• 1:54:31
  right? The strong killing off all the
• 1:54:34
  week. What's wrong with that?
• 1:54:35
  That we know that's wrong, because that's what God put on
• 1:54:38
  our heart. And that's where I kind of, I
• 1:54:41
  feel that's where the difference is.
• 1:54:42
  So I don't want to, there's nothing I can do to earn my way
• 1:54:45
  there. It's what God did for us, you
• 1:54:48
  know? And, and to me, I guess that's
• 1:54:51
  the difference. And I'm not saying we've been
• 1:54:53
  the best example, is Christians and we've done things, right?
• 1:54:57
  But this is where I feel there's such a difference between all
• 1:55:02
  other religions is that you know, God sacrificed Himself for
• 1:55:07
  us. So we could be with him and it's
• 1:55:10
  a choice. And, and the people to me hell
• 1:55:12
  is not spending eternity with God, and if you don't want to,
• 1:55:15
  that's your choice, you know what I mean?
• 1:55:17
  And he only wants to people there that wants to be there.
• 1:55:20
  And that's where love and free will come in.
• 1:55:23
  And that's what makes it so different.
• 1:55:25
  And we do live in a fallen world and there is a lot of death and
• 1:55:29
  suffering and pain. But even in the Bible, in
• 1:55:31
  scripture talks about eventually the lion will lay with the lamb.
• 1:55:34
  Those things that happen in Nature that we see is normal
• 1:55:37
  won't happen and in the end, you know, I mean eventually there
• 1:55:41
  will be the Judgment. There will be and the people
• 1:55:44
  that want to be, there will be there in the people that don't
• 1:55:46
  want, you know. And so to me, that's what makes
• 1:55:50
  it so different. And I guess that's why I believe
• 1:55:52
  what I do and that you're a cool dude.
• 1:55:55
  I like you a lot already made. I used, you said some things
• 1:55:58
  that I've so much for them. Yeah, we can still hear you,
• 1:56:03
  man. We were just letting Rob into
• 1:56:05
  the room and when I let in new people, it's gonna end up moving
• 1:56:09
  up. Hey Rob, how you doing there?
• 1:56:10
  Handsome fella. Hey, my friend, how you doing,
• 1:56:13
  how's the family be family's doing?
• 1:56:16
  All right, you know how it is, man.
• 1:56:18
  All the evil in the world goes away when you hit the power
• 1:56:21
  button and the PC. That's right.
• 1:56:23
  Yeah. Hey, you want you want proof
• 1:56:28
  that God signature is on every man's heart?
• 1:56:31
  Tell an atheist to show him their your show, get them to
• 1:56:36
  show you their fucking porn search history.
• 1:56:38
  They won't fucking do it. We all know why.
• 1:56:42
  That's yeah, and they won't show it because they know it's wrong.
• 1:56:45
  That's the signature. Yeah it's trust me.
• 1:56:49
  Nine times out of ten probably actually 10 times out of 10.
• 1:56:52
  There's some fucked up shit in there.
• 1:56:54
  I guarantee it guarantee it here.
• 1:56:56
  Show me your poor history. Know why I thought it wasn't a
• 1:56:59
  moral. I thought you were sexually.
• 1:57:01
  Liberated, what's happening? I thought we were sharing.
• 1:57:06
  If you show me yours, I'll show you mine.
• 1:57:11
  Yeah, that's exactly why. I also the other thing is is
• 1:57:13
  that you know, the other things frosting, if you put a chip in
• 1:57:16
  your head, Head and everyone can hear and see what you're saying
• 1:57:21
  and thinking, then an atheist would have to admit that that
• 1:57:26
  there is some serious thing going on in his head just with
• 1:57:30
  his thoughts. He alone even if he doesn't do
• 1:57:32
  Paul, you know? And yet it's like they said well
• 1:57:34
  I'm righteous I'm good, you know I've done nothing wrong, we're
• 1:57:37
  okay let everybody else be the judge of that including your
• 1:57:40
  fellow atheist. Let's see how that goes.
• 1:57:44
  So guys, we got some votes and we need to take a look at.
• 1:57:48
  I don't know if you noticed on the Community page robbed as
• 1:57:51
  well as mr. Chunk, but we do vote system,
• 1:57:55
  it's a democracy on my community and this is one of the boats
• 1:58:00
  that came up here. Can you read?
• 1:58:01
  What is said at the top and then so you understand what's being
• 1:58:05
  voted on here. The neck.
• 1:58:10
  Are you able to see the text? I mean, I can see a text called
• 1:58:16
  off by the the thing that says live, I'm on mobile.
• 1:58:19
  So, okay. Are you able to read it neck or
• 1:58:23
  Rob? Yeah, one second, let me read
• 1:58:25
  it. Why I'm asking if you could read
• 1:58:28
  out loud for those out there who are blind, why the fuck Brett
• 1:58:33
  ask you to read it in your head? What the fuck you okay go ahead
• 1:58:37
  carry on but I thought you just asking if I could read it I want
• 1:58:43
  you to tell about. All right do you know what these
• 1:58:51
  three creation is saved? Always saved have in common, no
• 1:58:54
  matter what you say or how you try to help?
• 1:58:57
  Them, you will always come out feeling unappreciated and like
• 1:59:00
  shit. I will not make a vote.
• 1:59:02
  But allow you to decide who's the most wicked of this Trinity
• 1:59:05
  at Kent hovind official at Matt Powell at Sydney, Lincoln 50 57,
• 1:59:10
  Kent hovind, 47%, Powell 18, Lincoln 34%.
• 1:59:15
  You know I think part of this is most people don't know Powell
• 1:59:20
  Unfortunately, Paul her. Some kind of fucking learning
• 1:59:22
  disability. Apparently, he doesn't know how
• 1:59:24
  to operate a fucking telephone unless unless, somebody tells
• 1:59:28
  them he has to actually press the fucking number.
• 1:59:32
  Well, he just wants to take over the hoeven, you know?
• 1:59:36
  Camp or the whole Dynasty? Yeah.
• 1:59:41
  Yeah. DAL to Camp personal Waco.
• 1:59:45
  Yeah. You know what they do is that
• 1:59:51
  camp, you get off the bus. This is True Story, by the way,
• 1:59:55
  they actually separate the kids from the adults and the kids go
• 1:59:58
  off with some fucking weirdo to learn about Jesus or whatever
• 2:00:02
  their particular version and then the adults go and they have
• 2:00:05
  a fucking lovely, picnic lunch, and then they fucking build
• 2:00:08
  cabins for for no pay. It's great.
• 2:00:13
  I wish I'd have thought of it. God damn it.
• 2:00:15
  Oh, trust me, I was there for years like now.
• 2:00:19
  Mind you, I was there. However, the Woods by myself
• 2:00:22
  with fucking sticks and rocks and shit like it's Minecraft.
• 2:00:25
  It's guys out here. Got unpaid labor.
• 2:00:27
  It's better than going to Home Depot and waiting outside 15
• 2:00:30
  minutes. Wonderful.
• 2:00:32
  And that he brings in people that can't leave and aren't able
• 2:00:37
  to have an opinion and if they do then he bashes them publicly
• 2:00:42
  throws them out. And yeah, it's It's sad like I
• 2:00:47
  said you know, that's crazy if you use as a good message to
• 2:00:51
  attract people. Yeah, I don't know if you
• 2:00:55
  realize this Nick but this is one of the things that we had a
• 2:00:58
  disagreement about me and Kent. I don't know if you realize this
• 2:01:02
  Nick but I'm Steven found out and he seemed like he was
• 2:01:05
  absolutely shocked when I told him.
• 2:01:07
  But I guess it was assumed because I was hanging out with
• 2:01:11
  Kent for a little while there that I agreed with every single
• 2:01:14
  thing. But, you know, I'm not Not a
• 2:01:16
  young Earth creationist, right? I actually believe in an old
• 2:01:19
  Universe, glad you brought this up because I always thought this
• 2:01:23
  was funny, and I've been in a room with Kent before.
• 2:01:25
  He'll go on all day about how the Earth is 6,000 years old and
• 2:01:29
  dinosaurs buried vertical on mud islands and Noah dragging around
• 2:01:34
  the fucking RAF. Two sticks, which is extra
• 2:01:36
  biblical but whatever. And but if he asked, if you
• 2:01:41
  asked him, why he believes that he'll say, well, if you don't
• 2:01:45
  believe That the Bible is true and accurate, 100%, every
• 2:01:49
  goddamn word, then you're not a True Believer, and you're going
• 2:01:52
  to hell, go to hell and you die, and then you ask him if the
• 2:01:56
  world is flat and he just doesn't answer the fucking
• 2:01:58
  question. Type up here.
• 2:02:01
  Had four corners, he won't even explain it away.
• 2:02:03
  Like all that's allegorical. Let me show you a fossil about
• 2:02:07
  how it was. Fucking, it's always six
• 2:02:10
  thousand years old, you know? Well, I listen, that's not true.
• 2:02:13
  He has done. He has Shown how it's not flat
• 2:02:17
  and it is allegorical, but not that, I'm almost be.
• 2:02:20
  There we go, you're in the cult, bro.
• 2:02:23
  What are a lot of those different views?
• 2:02:37
  I mean, I agreed with him on all the points that he made about
• 2:02:40
  Evolution, but the whole Earth being a 6000 years old and then
• 2:02:45
  the verse being less than 10,000 years old.
• 2:02:51
  Exactly. It doesn't fucking matter if
• 2:02:56
  it's nothing. Have you prayed?
• 2:02:59
  This is true Faith to believe. Yes.
• 2:03:02
  Now here's my thing, but and this is where I would agree with
• 2:03:06
  you and disagree with you. At the same time, I believe that
• 2:03:09
  God created a fully mature Earth, just like Adam was
• 2:03:12
  full-grown full man, 100% there. You know, it's not like he was a
• 2:03:17
  baby and grew up so I wouldn't be surprised if the universe
• 2:03:22
  comes out as old and mature. Sure.
• 2:03:24
  And all of those things, that's exactly how God created it.
• 2:03:27
  So, you know what I mean? So, I, you hurt, you basically,
• 2:03:31
  every idea that it looks old, it looks old by appearance, but you
• 2:03:36
  don't believe, it's actually that old.
• 2:03:38
  Now that people are more than like, I say in my videos all the
• 2:03:41
  time. If people feel like I'm wrong
• 2:03:44
  about my views are more than welcome to say, look, I disagree
• 2:03:47
  with you and if you'll just listen, I'll give you an
• 2:03:50
  explanation on why I think this way.
• 2:03:53
  I'm not one of these. Woods is people who's going to
• 2:03:55
  say, oh I disagree with you. So now I got to get the mop
• 2:03:57
  handle and beat you about the fucking head with it.
• 2:04:00
  I'll listen to anybody, whatever their views are.
• 2:04:03
  I have an open mind. I agree.
• 2:04:05
  I'm the same way. I think that's ridiculous.
• 2:04:07
  When people act like that. Why?
• 2:04:09
  I mean the whole God gave us a mind and logic and the ability
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  to study things at learn. And, you know, the made, my only
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  thing is Right Christ died for us because of our sins.
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  Yeah. And now And not only that, it's
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  the holy spirit's job to convict, it's there.
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  It's not my job. My job is to be an example to
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  treat people with respect and kindness and then we can talk
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  and we can disagree. And so what, what's the problem
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  with that? Bloody let me tell you a quick
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  little Parable. All right, so I had
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  conversations with atheists, right?
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  And I they like well, why do you why do you follow Book the Torah
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  and it's like, well, I'm pretty sure there's a guide and I don't
• 2:04:59
  want to piss him off because he seems like a badass motherfucker
• 2:05:03
  and it seems like every time I do piss them off, by not doing
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  the things that are written in the book.
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  I get the bitch Mac and I'm not really a big fan of that.
• 2:05:12
  So here's what I was thinking there 613 rules in this first
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  edition so I'm going to follow them.
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  So I don't get bitch Mac and he's like Okay.
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  So like one of the weather, what are, what are the rules?
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  And I'm like, well, there's this thing about rotate, the corn.
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  All right, well there's 613 rules, how do you know what the
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  fuck they all are? Well, that's what rabbis are for
• 2:05:35
  the kind of like lawyers. You asked go to your Rabbi and
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  you say hey I was thinking about not rotate in the corn and he'll
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  say to me you're going to want to rotate that corner and be
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  like, okay? And then I do the fucking thing
• 2:05:47
  and then the atheist will say to me, well it just seems like a
• 2:05:50
  bunch of arbitrary rules and I was like, well what?
• 2:05:54
  Think you're fucking law system. Is there in the United States
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  that you care so much about suffer when it comes to the
• 2:05:59
  police and riots and whatnot. But other than that what's
• 2:06:03
  what's the deal? It's almost like you know it's
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  like ask an atheist about the age of consent.
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  It's a very interesting fucking conversation.
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  They'll be like well, 16 and Most states.
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  Okay well not all states. So clearly it's somewhat
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  arbitrary. Clearly there's a fucking line
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  but you can't tell me where the fuck it is.
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  So you leave it up to other. People in suits to decide just
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  like me, except for the guys in suits, for me, had hats and
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  curls on the side of their fucking head.
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  So what's the difference Jack? You follow one set of arbitrary
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  rules and by your opinion I follow another set of arbitrary
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  rules the fuck you each it tonight.
• 2:06:39
  Well, not, not only that, it's like a lot of a lot of the rules
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  that God sent in places protect us.
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  I mean, like, not sleeping around all the time.
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  Like, all the diseases that are out there all the, the hurt that
• 2:06:51
  comes when you give yourself away to someone else, I mean
• 2:06:54
  like a lot of these things are put in place because it's for
• 2:06:58
  her own good. You know what I mean?
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  And now we don't always understand it but I promise you
• 2:07:03
  once you go through it you're like oh maybe he was right oops
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  but This is where in the end I think the rules were put in
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  place to show us that none of us qualify.
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  None of us are good. There's nothing any of us can
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  do. This is why it's a gift.
• 2:07:22
  This is this is what makes it so different.
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  All other religions are earn your way you have to do this.
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  You have to follow this. You have to pray this direction.
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  You have to make do this. A good question for you.
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  Ma'am are closed. Well, because well, as he is,
• 2:07:36
  well versed and internet memes and slinging shit's, I have to
• 2:07:40
  ask you guys something. I'm looking at this thumbnail of
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  the video short, and it looks like a little black kitten, but
• 2:07:48
  instead of it saying the cutest kitten history, it says the
• 2:07:51
  cutest blep. Ble BP.
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  What the hell is a bluff? I never even heard of that
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  before. I know it sounds like some gen Z
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  fucking gobbledygook to me. Probably.
• 2:08:04
  Yeah working people just say kitten nowadays where they got
• 2:08:08
  to give it all kind of weird names like that.
• 2:08:11
  Damn, I don't understand because because nothing special anymore.
• 2:08:15
  So we got to invent new words will never blow up for a kitten.
• 2:08:21
  I mean, even the worst sounds cute right blap.
• 2:08:26
  I mean, what's a dog? Going to be bump bump and blips
• 2:08:29
  hanging out again at me. What the fuck was that all
• 2:08:31
  about? Now that she's gone?
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  I stumbled Upon A gen Z translator.
• 2:08:38
  That's the little you can take whatever Edge in Z says type it
• 2:08:41
  into this AI thing and it will translate exactly what it says
• 2:08:46
  that is supposed that form. So we can find it.
• 2:08:51
  I think you're simply just Jin's, young translator dot
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  comic. Okay.
• 2:08:56
  Easy wonder where our buddy Adam went for not talking about like
• 2:09:00
  dinosaurs or the universe. He takes all got honest with you
• 2:09:04
  that that we live in a fallen world.
• 2:09:06
  And, you know, the Bible warns us towards the end, there's
• 2:09:09
  going to be more false prophets, it's going to be more thing.
• 2:09:14
  We might live in a fallen world but I think it's pretty.
• 2:09:16
  All right, I mean Maybe by the time you were born,
• 2:09:47
  it'll be fucking world of go back to normal or something out
• 2:09:51
  of that are fucking Christ a lock on Earth and we'll have to
• 2:09:54
  figure it out. There.
• 2:09:55
  But you know I figured Vegas odds so I'm not I'm not you know
• 2:10:01
  my thing is I'm not too worried about it.
• 2:10:03
  I see it all here at all. It's in God's hands anyway.
• 2:10:06
  All I can do is is do what I'm asked to do you, do you mean?
• 2:10:11
  So that's one thing I really respect that.
• 2:10:15
  But I mean he speaks his opinion.
• 2:10:17
  He talks about how I feels even if people don't agree with them.
• 2:10:20
  I'm the same way, you know, I almost simple.
• 2:10:24
  Fuck. And myself, I don't really
• 2:10:27
  require a whole, you know. None of us are perfect.
• 2:10:32
  That's why we have Christ, you know, I mean, that's, that's the
• 2:10:34
  whole point. That's the whole point.
• 2:10:37
  That so many people miss. This is why I've had gay
• 2:10:40
  friends. I've had trench and your
• 2:10:42
  friends. I've had, I got, you know, all I
• 2:10:44
  can do is treat them with respect and kindness and because
• 2:10:47
  I can't sit there and tell them you're living in sin.
• 2:10:49
  While I'm living in sin to, I'm trying not to hold back.
• 2:10:54
  That makes the most sense to because when the world goes to
• 2:10:57
  shit, if you're doing the right thing and not getting involved,
• 2:11:00
  Your fucking business. Then they can't, they can't come
• 2:11:02
  to. This is why I don't understand
• 2:11:04
  why Christianity doesn't get his shit together, like it seems
• 2:11:07
  pretty obvious to me that the whole left-wing mentality.
• 2:11:12
  This whole atheism, fucking thing is going to eat it.
• 2:11:15
  So, and eventually, once the pocker danis of the araba roces
• 2:11:20
  fucking swallowed and everything's gone completely to
• 2:11:23
  dog shit instead of being part of the problem or somebody some,
• 2:11:28
  some 70, can point a goddamn thing.
• 2:11:30
  Oh, that makes more and more sense to just be like, okay, you
• 2:11:33
  do you, we're going to go over here and you know not fuck each
• 2:11:37
  other in the ass or whatever the that looks like.
• 2:11:40
  And you just you go over there and I don't know, eat babies or
• 2:11:44
  whatever. The fuck a theist do in their
• 2:11:46
  spare time. You know what I mean?
• 2:11:48
  Seems make most sense to me just, you know,
• 2:11:50
  non-interventionism. Well to point.
• 2:11:53
  I mean, eventually there is gonna the Bible talks about
• 2:11:56
  Antichrist, right? There's going to be someone that
• 2:11:59
  comes down and The whole world's going to follow him.
• 2:12:02
  And, you know, and this is where we, this is why I have many
• 2:12:06
  theories. He could be, I don't think is a
• 2:12:09
  lie. I think it's from another
• 2:12:10
  dimension, right? That comes down and the whole
• 2:12:12
  world follows him. How else do you get the whole
• 2:12:14
  world to rise up against God? He's not God, right?
• 2:12:17
  There's no way in the world it has seen world.
• 2:12:20
  This is what it. What a visit by Christian and a
• 2:12:25
  regular visit sounds like Knock-Knock.
• 2:12:28
  Have you heard about our Lord and Savior, Jesus?
• 2:12:30
  Jesus Christ. If the answer is, yes.
• 2:12:33
  All right. Have a good day at the answer is
• 2:12:36
  no. Do you wanna if the answer is,
• 2:12:39
  yes, go ahead and tell them. And they say, no, just be like,
• 2:12:43
  all right, well, there's this book called The Bible, if you
• 2:12:45
  change your mind and then you leave whole conversation.
• 2:12:49
  Well, I also feel too like options than a fucking Bethesda
• 2:12:53
  game, but, you know, it is what it is.
• 2:12:57
  I also feel like there's a point where I mean there are Jobs out
• 2:13:00
  in the Amazon that never hear about it, right?
• 2:13:03
  That, I mean, I do feel that there's God knows their heart in
• 2:13:07
  the end, right? He knows what they would have
• 2:13:09
  decided, he knows what they'd like, it's kind of like people
• 2:13:13
  the way I've always looked at it it's like if I'm watching a game
• 2:13:16
  show right on TV and it's pre-recorded, does that mean
• 2:13:20
  that those people didn't make a free choice?
• 2:13:23
  No. Now God already knows the end of
• 2:13:25
  the game show. Just like, I know the end of the
• 2:13:27
  game show because I've seen it before, does that mean they
• 2:13:29
  didn't have free will Will they didn't have a free choice, they
• 2:13:31
  didn't make those decisions. Know, he already knows that, and
• 2:13:34
  that's where I think predestination comes in is where
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  I argue with Mark on a lot of things and stuff.
• 2:13:40
  It's like, yes, God knows it, but it's still there choice,
• 2:13:44
  right? I mean, you could watch a
• 2:13:46
  football game, two days later. Yeah, let's do you, are you
• 2:13:51
  aware of a term called compatibilism?
• 2:13:54
  I have not tell me about it. Why notice that Christians go to
• 2:13:58
  the extreme of either way? Or in the spectrum of this?
• 2:14:01
  Either we have free will or things are predetermined.
• 2:14:04
  A compatible list to someone who says that.
• 2:14:06
  There are some things that are set in stone yet, God leaves
• 2:14:10
  open, the parameters for people to be able to make choices.
• 2:14:13
  If you were to think of it as a video game, where everything is
• 2:14:16
  pre-programmed, you are the Avatar where you get to choose
• 2:14:20
  what quests and where you want to go in an open type of Sandbox
• 2:14:24
  game. That's what compatibilism.
• 2:14:26
  As you might want to look into that.
• 2:14:28
  You probably have some pretty nasty arguments start Mark when
• 2:14:31
  you talk to them. No, I would agree with that.
• 2:14:34
  I think it's both. I've always thought that from
• 2:14:37
  the beginning its predetermined and it's choice, you know?
• 2:14:41
  I mean that's where and the Bible's clear about that when
• 2:14:43
  you read it and you see the different verses and stuff,
• 2:14:46
  that's exactly what it is. It is very fun, Pamela's God
• 2:14:50
  knows the end, but it's still up to the Avatar, right?
• 2:14:54
  And your uncle compatible list than if that's your view.
• 2:15:01
  I was thinking about this today, actually.
• 2:15:04
  What was that? What you say?
• 2:15:06
  I was thinking about this exact same thing today, actually.
• 2:15:11
  Well elaborate a little bit. You can tell, huh?
• 2:15:15
  See how I was reading the book of Samuel and I was reading
• 2:15:18
  where God says, I am so sorry that I ever made Saul King and I
• 2:15:23
  was like that's very fascinating to me.
• 2:15:25
  So if God is all knowing I do believe that he is, I think he
• 2:15:29
  has I don't want to say it's exactly predestination.
• 2:15:33
  I think it's he has a purpose for everyone and God wants you
• 2:15:37
  to fulfill the purpose but it is your choice if you do or don't.
• 2:15:40
  I think is kind of up in the air soif.
• 2:15:42
  I see it as as almost. Like, if you're, if you type in
• 2:15:46
  an address in a GPS, you have your corset, far ahead.
• 2:15:51
  If you make S up to you, if you follow the course or not, if you
• 2:15:54
  take a left turn then I think it can get recourses.
• 2:15:57
  You you see the whole new path and I think God is sort of the
• 2:16:00
  same way. He sees the path that you're
• 2:16:02
  going. If you stay that course but you
• 2:16:04
  have the freedom to turn left or turn, right.
• 2:16:07
  And if you do turn left or turn, right?
• 2:16:08
  He sees that path as well as I think it's kind of like this, if
• 2:16:13
  you're trying to get to your fucking doctor's appointment and
• 2:16:16
  the most efficient ways to go through a bad neighborhood, not
• 2:16:18
  your well. Turn the other way, is going to
• 2:16:20
  make you late for your appointment.
• 2:16:22
  You're going to all those fuckers, $20, regardless of you
• 2:16:24
  show up on time or not at this point.
• 2:16:27
  So you make a left, turn to go to the bad neighborhood.
• 2:16:29
  You almost get fuckin mugged off and somebody tries to take your
• 2:16:32
  hubcaps while you're parked in the red light.
• 2:16:36
  And you if you got a lot, I am so sorry that I opted ever
• 2:16:40
  decide to make that last turn. I should have just, you know,
• 2:16:43
  you can feel remorse for things. You just got to do that.
• 2:16:47
  You just before the hood like me.
• 2:16:52
  Yeah. I fucking I know it's Arbor
• 2:16:54
  Hills one. Son of a bitch neighborhood.
• 2:16:56
  And fucking Albany there, but, yeah, the necklace.
• 2:17:00
  I got an interesting thing for you and hopefully we'll be able
• 2:17:04
  to move step by step 2. Conversation that I noticed a
• 2:17:07
  lot of Christians. They look at the Adam and Eve
• 2:17:09
  story is though, it was simply a curse and and the - Fallen World
• 2:17:15
  type of thing. But have you ever thought about
• 2:17:17
  what the world would be? Like, if Adam and Eve had not
• 2:17:20
  made the decision that they did? What, how do you envision the
• 2:17:23
  world had? They not done?
• 2:17:25
  So Give me one second, okay. I don't know, that's kind of
• 2:17:32
  hard to do, made it. Technically, this is supposed to
• 2:17:35
  be heaven, but we messed up So one of the things that is
• 2:17:41
  assumed or presuppose by most Christians out there that if
• 2:17:46
  Adam and Eve had not done what they did, then there wouldn't be
• 2:17:49
  any sin or death in the world, descend wasn't introduced until
• 2:17:53
  the first Disobedience. It's done.
• 2:17:55
  Now if Adam and Eve were Immortal how would have they
• 2:17:57
  ever been able to have a child? Because he used biological
• 2:18:02
  reproductive system would have never been able to regenerate
• 2:18:05
  new cells as he was Immortal, at least that's the lure of
• 2:18:08
  vampires and Werewolves and anything that you've ever seen
• 2:18:11
  having to do with the Immortals or Highlanders.
• 2:18:14
  So, if you think about it, it's not just a fallen world or a
• 2:18:18
  curse but there's also a blessing with them as well
• 2:18:22
  because it gave mankind the opportunity to be sentient and
• 2:18:25
  have free will. That's very fascinating and I
• 2:18:30
  think that also explains God's mercy because he said, if you
• 2:18:34
  eat the fruit, you will die. That was what was coming.
• 2:18:37
  That's what was said, but they didn't die instead.
• 2:18:41
  They got a curse that we still have to live with, but it's also
• 2:18:44
  a blessing at the same time. If that's not Grace than that, I
• 2:18:47
  don't know. Really know what it is.
• 2:18:49
  Well, some people when they hear the word death and all that
• 2:18:52
  because I've had some atheists throw this at me.
• 2:18:54
  Well, I thought God said they were going to die and all that.
• 2:18:57
  I've heard some people Will argue that they died in a
• 2:19:00
  spiritual sense and they also their biology from that moment
• 2:19:04
  moving forward. They literally, have you ever
• 2:19:07
  heard this? And this isn't cliche, but the
• 2:19:09
  moment you're born, you are basically dying throughout your
• 2:19:13
  entire existence. Your body is literally breaking
• 2:19:15
  down. Whether you believe in God or
• 2:19:17
  not, there is a second law of Thermodynamics entropy where
• 2:19:21
  everything breaks down and goes into this order.
• 2:19:25
  So, in a sense, the Bible is absolutely correct.
• 2:19:28
  Done that. Well yeah that's what that's
• 2:19:31
  where I believe I'm gonna I'm gonna go hang out with my wife.
• 2:19:34
  I'll talk to y'all later. All right.
• 2:19:36
  Well, gotta help priorities, man.
• 2:19:38
  Got ahead and priorities a woman's always, right?
• 2:19:41
  That's what I've learned. How to survive in this world.
• 2:19:44
  Amen. Right.
• 2:19:45
  From the garden. Anyway.
• 2:19:46
  Honest. But see, that's where I believe
• 2:19:50
  that God originally created the world where we did live forever.
• 2:19:53
  All right, we didn't we wouldn't die physically to, right?
• 2:19:57
  We would have been able to walk with him, talk with him live in
• 2:20:00
  a perfect world. That's the way it was originally
• 2:20:02
  created. That's why I think Before the
• 2:20:05
  Flood man lived for nine hundred plus years, right?
• 2:20:09
  You see all these times, I don't think that was allegorical or
• 2:20:12
  whatever. They actually live that amount
• 2:20:13
  of time after the flood when the creation was destroyed from the
• 2:20:19
  A flood, that's when we lived less and less, and less, and
• 2:20:21
  less. I also think that's where we get
• 2:20:23
  all these stories about these beings that live for a long
• 2:20:28
  time. I mean, could you imagine you
• 2:20:29
  have your kid and your grandkids, and your grandkids
• 2:20:31
  and their grandkids, and you're still alive right there?
• 2:20:35
  That's where these pharaohs and all these other things come in
• 2:20:37
  place and they looked up from his Godlike here.
• 2:20:39
  He is 500, 600 years old but they're on their sixth, seventh,
• 2:20:43
  eighth ninth generation. So I do believe when God
• 2:20:47
  originally created the world, it Perfect.
• 2:20:49
  And we weren't going to die. But once we send or once man,
• 2:20:56
  sinned, that's when death and enter the world.
• 2:20:59
  Now, I took a long time for that to come into effect because we
• 2:21:02
  were cursed first, right? And then that curse, then
• 2:21:05
  eventually led to death and then as we got further and further
• 2:21:09
  into it, death came sooner and sooner and sooner and that's why
• 2:21:12
  eventually God saying to come back and fix, all that, correct.
• 2:21:15
  It now I think even if If Adam and Eve didn't sin, eventually
• 2:21:22
  someone would have right? I mean all of us, Have that
• 2:21:28
  unfortunately there's that part of us.
• 2:21:30
  That is there right there. That when Nicholas did you hear
• 2:21:34
  about? Did you hear about my consult
• 2:21:36
  about the reproduction issue though?
• 2:21:40
  Yeah. Yeah restate that so I can
• 2:21:42
  answer it correctly. Okay.
• 2:21:43
  So if Even Adam were technically Immortal, there was no death in
• 2:21:49
  the world. That means that he would not
• 2:21:52
  have been able to reproduce with her.
• 2:21:55
  Her cells would not have regenerated the child inside of
• 2:21:59
  her. If it even managed to get to the
• 2:22:01
  womb would have never been able to regenerate its cells to grow,
• 2:22:05
  because it would be immortal. So that's why I was saying to My
• 2:22:09
  Buddy Hackett. That we've met tonight.
• 2:22:11
  That if you think about it, what?
• 2:22:14
  Adam and Eve did was not only a curse and Disobedience against
• 2:22:19
  God. But in his vast wisdom, a
• 2:22:21
  blessing to us because it gave us Free Will and sentient, and
• 2:22:25
  the ability to choose our own way.
• 2:22:28
  So if you think about the world would be this, unbelievably
• 2:22:32
  extraordinarily different hadn't, someone made that
• 2:22:35
  choice. Well, I disagree, because why
• 2:22:38
  God made them to read. Produce.
• 2:22:40
  That was one of his Commandments is to multiply and and say that
• 2:22:46
  before. Well the either either way I
• 2:22:50
  think just because you're a mortar, doesn't mean you can't
• 2:22:53
  reproduce. Right?
• 2:22:54
  Well how can you you a woman has to actually go through aging and
• 2:22:58
  maturity in order to be able to bring a child into the world?
• 2:23:02
  If she can't age and her womb is not going to age everything
• 2:23:06
  about her, are you saying that God left sections of the body?
• 2:23:09
  D that could still stretch out and do the things they need to
• 2:23:12
  do. Oh, absolutely right.
• 2:23:15
  I think that God made us to be able to reproduce and that she
• 2:23:21
  would have just made more immortal children, right?
• 2:23:24
  And then more and more I think Before the Flood.
• 2:23:27
  Imagine right today. Wait a minute, wait a minute,
• 2:23:30
  let's say I give you that and say that they are able to
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  produce children without the children.
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  Themselves are Immortal, how are they going to grow?
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  What do you mean? How are they going to grow?
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  They're good. They're going to, they're going
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  to eat. They're going to grow.
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  The thing is they're not going to die right there.
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  They are going to mature. The thing is though, if you look
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  at that's why they live 900 years plus, right, or 800 600
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  years because the way God designed the world, there was no
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  UV rays. There was no genetic
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  deformities, everything was pre-programmed directly from the
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  hand of God to be perfect, right?
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  And it wasn't until sin entered the world that we then started
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  had having degradation of the genetic reproduction, that UV
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  rays or after the flood UV rays and other things, less oxygen.
• 2:24:23
  And all those things that then started to well, there were I
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  don't know if you know this, you may know this necklace but you
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  do realize that disabilities and handicaps.
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  Actually the Bible says that God directed this.
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  If you turn the Exodus 11. It's not just because of the
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  Fallen World and because of corruption but also God directly
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  says that he created. He's talked to Moses in this
• 2:24:49
  conversation. He said who makes man's mouth
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  who makes the Blind and the deaf and the dumb.
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  Is it not I the Lord. He's taking credit for it.
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  Sure. But I believe that was after the
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  fall, right? It was, I mean that's it's been
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  a conversation. What?
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  Mozart I mean, I'll have to research a some more.
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  That's the first time I've heard that argument, this is why I
• 2:25:15
  left talking to you, you know, actually the character 4 verse
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  11, that's what that is. Yeah, that brings me on to, you
• 2:25:27
  know, that comment, I broke you know where you were talking
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  about you know, God invented evil.
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  And that whole verse in context that you were talking about and
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  I had spoke about it being the more accurate word from the new
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  King James version, and when you read the whole paragraph of
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  that, actually use talking directly to the Israelites
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  themselves. And he says, I will guide you
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  through, though. I have not so sorry.
• 2:25:53
  I will gird you. Do you have not known?
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  Me that they may know from the rising of the sun to its setting
• 2:25:59
  that there is no. God, besides me, I am the Lord,
• 2:26:03
  there is no other. I form the light and create
• 2:26:06
  Darkness. I make peace and create
• 2:26:09
  Calamity. I am the Lord, I do these things
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  so the Calamity he causes is about realizing about bringing
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  you closer to him, you know. And like I said, I talked about
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  Nick Voyage kick loads of times on here.
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  The Guy born with no arms and legs.
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  There was no genetic reason why he was born like that at all.
• 2:26:31
  And so God made him like that. You know there's a science could
• 2:26:35
  not answer that and he tried to commit suicide at the age of
• 2:26:38
  eight and he's now a born-again Christian traveling around the
• 2:26:41
  world teaching young kids about bullying and giving them hope
• 2:26:46
  and stuff like that. And he talks about if I was born
• 2:26:49
  with arms and legs I'd probably wouldn't have been traveling
• 2:26:51
  around the world doing that. So God calls that color.
• 2:26:55
  Sorry, like you said brat, he calls his that disability, you
• 2:26:59
  know? So when you put that hand first
• 2:27:02
  Rob, I understand that in a lot of the newer books, especially
• 2:27:05
  the in RV, it changes the word out with Calamity.
• 2:27:09
  But if you look up the definition of evil, the word
• 2:27:12
  Calamity is actually in the definition.
• 2:27:14
  And the reason why is because Calamity is defined as doing
• 2:27:18
  destruction and bringing wrath or causing harm to others.
• 2:27:22
  I think that you would all agree that whenever a guy.
• 2:27:25
  God sent the angel death, they got all the firstborn of Egypt,
• 2:27:29
  none of them were saying, wow, this is objectively awesome.
• 2:27:32
  Thank you. You know, they were they were
• 2:27:34
  being punished and it wasn't meant to be good.
• 2:27:37
  There's no place where when God does get angry and causes
• 2:27:42
  destruction on people, where he says, yeah, what I'm doing right
• 2:27:46
  now is nice. He knows exactly what he's doing
• 2:27:48
  and they they know that they screwed up.
• 2:27:52
  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Like right. And also this thing about, you
• 2:27:54
  know, Where Jesus says, you know, do not kill it, says bang
• 2:27:58
  on God kills, you know, in this is the thing, he's like we're
• 2:28:02
  not long-standing like God is we not forgiving like God is so
• 2:28:07
  God, will God knows the point in which he will give people so
• 2:28:12
  much time. Letting them do so much evil
• 2:28:15
  before he draws a line in the same.
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  So sorry. Right.
• 2:28:18
  That's enough now. But man, can't make those
• 2:28:21
  judgments because they don't have that level of knowledge.
• 2:28:26
  Yeah. And not only that, I feel all
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  this is after the fall, right? I think originally God created a
• 2:28:32
  perfect. I think originally and what's so
• 2:28:36
  amazing about this too is that God knew that we would fall and
• 2:28:40
  mess up anyway and he still loved us so much to create us to
• 2:28:43
  have that relationship and choice.
• 2:28:45
  He did it anyway. You know it's kind of like
• 2:28:49
  creating a car that you know some of them are going to crash
• 2:28:53
  but it's also going to Help so many people and save their lives
• 2:28:56
  but you create the car anyway. And I don't, I don't understand
• 2:29:00
  it. All I don't, I mean, if I
• 2:29:01
  understood everything about my God, he's not a very powerful
• 2:29:05
  God and there are a lot of questions.
• 2:29:08
  There's a lot of doubt, there's a lot of that's, you know, but
• 2:29:11
  but in the end I know it's true. I there's a relationship that I
• 2:29:16
  have with him and that's what's so amazing about this, right?
• 2:29:19
  It's not a religion. I hate religion, I hate churches
• 2:29:22
  and all these things. Were there itself.
• 2:29:24
  Fake and you know, people pretending and I that's my
• 2:29:29
  biggest struggle, you know? And sometimes God puts things on
• 2:29:32
  my heart too. Do things.
• 2:29:35
  I wouldn't always understand and I follow him anyway and it turns
• 2:29:39
  out being great. And sometimes it doesn't because
• 2:29:42
  I thought it was him and it was, you know what I mean?
• 2:29:44
  And so, you know, we live in a fallen world.
• 2:29:46
  We live with sin and death and suffering.
• 2:29:48
  I mean, I deal with pain every day.
• 2:29:50
  I deal with suffering every day. It's hard on me, you know, and
• 2:29:54
  it's like, why am I still here? But if I can help one person and
• 2:29:58
  change one's Soul, it's like Paul Paul with.
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  I think you're muted your own Mike there.
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  Nicholas. Oh sorry.
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  I said, Paul, Paul was always my example, you know, because he
• 2:30:15
  was stoned and he was thrown in prison and he, you know, one
• 2:30:19
  time he died and went to heaven and decided to come back down
• 2:30:23
  because it's like if I could just bring one more person there
• 2:30:26
  because our little suffering in our pain and problems here is
• 2:30:30
  nothing to Eternity. You know what I mean?
• 2:30:32
  And so, that was always an encouragement to me because I do
• 2:30:37
  I suffer from a lot of medical conditions and other things and
• 2:30:40
  in pain and and But if it means my life can affect my children,
• 2:30:46
  a future, which I just had them so that added to, you know what
• 2:30:49
  I mean? But before that it was other
• 2:30:52
  people and, you know, it made it worth it, you know.
• 2:30:56
  And what's my little bit of misery here compared to the
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  attorney that I will have before the Lord, when I get a new body
• 2:31:04
  and a new creation, and I'm able to be with him and have a full
• 2:31:08
  life, you know, and if I can bring other people with me,
• 2:31:11
  Awesome. And if I can't well I can do is
• 2:31:14
  love them and treat them kind and respect them, you know.
• 2:31:18
  And that's where I guess my drive comes from is that we do
• 2:31:23
  live in a fallen World. God tells us that it was our
• 2:31:27
  choice. I think a lot of us, even if
• 2:31:29
  Adam didn't send or even sin, we probably would have done the
• 2:31:32
  same thing. That's just the way we are, you
• 2:31:35
  know, and I think once the Judgment comes and the future
• 2:31:39
  comes that nature will be taken from us, but It's all about a
• 2:31:43
  relationship and a choice. And to me, that's what separates
• 2:31:46
  Christianity from so many other religions other religions.
• 2:31:50
  It's what do I do? How do I earn my way?
• 2:31:54
  You know, I gotta show up and make this prayer and do this
• 2:31:56
  thing and it's not about that with us.
• 2:31:59
  It's about what he did for us, and it's a gift and how amazing
• 2:32:04
  that God did that for us? You know, and I guess that's why
• 2:32:07
  I stand so strong in my faith. Make website, appreciate your
• 2:32:11
  help. Outlook or know this and how you
• 2:32:14
  feel like you want to impact people's lives, but there's
• 2:32:17
  still the sound of there's pain and suffering there that you're
• 2:32:22
  trying to deal with. Do you have somebody in your
• 2:32:24
  real life that you're able to sit down and talk to and be able
• 2:32:29
  to vent some of the aggravation? I understand, you're trying to
• 2:32:32
  always move forward and all that but sometimes good to have an
• 2:32:36
  open ear, somebody that will listen Oh absolutely, I have
• 2:32:43
  many people, you know, and even then I've got God, he listens,
• 2:32:49
  you know, so I'm okay, I'm happy.
• 2:32:52
  I love my life and I just want to encourage other people just
• 2:32:56
  because you're suffering, and you have pain and issues, guess
• 2:33:00
  what? You can live free and be happy
• 2:33:02
  and enjoy your life, no matter what.
• 2:33:05
  And that's what I love about life.
• 2:33:10
  I've been doing Rob, I'm yelping good.
• 2:33:14
  Yeah, I've been looking into a lot to do with psychology and
• 2:33:17
  stuff like that because I come in before, told you, I mean, I'm
• 2:33:21
  55 years old now and I've we've just fostered a four-year-old
• 2:33:27
  girl who's been through trauma. So we've been working through a
• 2:33:32
  lot of the trauma and stuff like that.
• 2:33:33
  So I've been doing a lot of understanding and reading about
• 2:33:36
  psychology and it's really interesting what science has
• 2:33:40
  Discovered. Now even though the solution
• 2:33:43
  psychology puts in place is ungodly and stuff like that and
• 2:33:47
  a lot of it doesn't work anyway, but it's really interesting how
• 2:33:50
  the mind works. And that's where I've been this
• 2:33:52
  last week, but the other thing we were talking about what you
• 2:33:55
  just talking about. And again, I kind of put it in
• 2:33:58
  that comment that I wrote Brett whereby we seen what is
• 2:34:02
  happening to gen Z today, where they're wrapped up in their
• 2:34:05
  mummies, my statement on their games and things like that, they
• 2:34:08
  get their food made for them. They're not going through too
• 2:34:11
  much pain, you know, apart from the mental health pain that they
• 2:34:14
  suffer because, you know, they haven't been exposed to the
• 2:34:17
  world and stuff like that. And that kind of shows that if
• 2:34:20
  you, if you kind of treat your child weave.
• 2:34:27
  But entitled, kind of wrapped up in a fluffy blanket.
• 2:34:30
  Why kind of like the human race does start to become more
• 2:34:33
  selfish? More judgmental more.
• 2:34:36
  I want it this way. I want more.
• 2:34:38
  So, it's almost like you kind of do have to suffer and go through
• 2:34:42
  some kinds of trauma and, you know, life being hard to be able
• 2:34:46
  to make you grow and learn and actually do become a better
• 2:34:50
  person, you know, Right. Agree with you, I agree with
• 2:34:55
  you. Yeah unfortunately it's not
• 2:34:59
  cliche to say this sometimes being able to you know go
• 2:35:03
  through some struggles and challenges in your life and
• 2:35:06
  really know what it's like to be able to feel pain.
• 2:35:10
  It's the only way you're going to learn how to sympathize and
• 2:35:13
  identifying relate with others, whenever they're having issues
• 2:35:16
  to be able to even help them. If you're someone, that's been
• 2:35:19
  born with a silver spoon in your mouth, all your life.
• 2:35:22
  You couldn't possibly understand and it would just be jarring and
• 2:35:26
  shocking for you to run into someone one day that does have
• 2:35:29
  the issues. Yeah, exactly.
• 2:35:32
  All you have to do is just look at Hollywood for that.
• 2:35:34
  Look how messed up eyes. It's funny that you mentioned
• 2:35:38
  that. So when I was growing up, I
• 2:35:41
  actually grew up in the church and do worship and music and all
• 2:35:46
  that. And I remember one time this
• 2:35:49
  speaker came, and man, his story was just amazed, you know, he'd
• 2:35:54
  been through a lot and drugs and this, and that, and it was like,
• 2:35:57
  Wow, listening to him was just like, wow, he's still many.
• 2:35:59
  People are being affected by his testimony, you know.
• 2:36:03
  And I would always try to witness to my friends and tell
• 2:36:06
  them about God. And they just be like and you
• 2:36:08
  haven't been through much, you don't even cuss you don't do
• 2:36:11
  this you know I mean like who are you to relate to me?
• 2:36:15
  You know and I remember this is why I always tell people be
• 2:36:19
  careful what you pray for, you know, because I remember praying
• 2:36:22
  to God, I said God, I hope I go through some hard times so I can
• 2:36:27
  relate to people and be able to witness to them and give them
• 2:36:30
  testimony. You know?
• 2:36:32
  Oh boy. Did that come true.
• 2:36:34
  Yeah and I I've been robbed robbed at gunpoint beaten, half
• 2:36:38
  to death and Yeah, I've had that happen to myself necklace, but I
• 2:36:46
  am who I am. It never changed my spirit and
• 2:36:54
  never changed how I treated people, you know?
• 2:36:56
  But it made it to a point where people can talk to me and relate
• 2:37:00
  to me, because I've been there, I've done that, I was angry at
• 2:37:04
  God for a long time with my medical condition.
• 2:37:06
  I Blamed him for it, you know, and eventually I realized it was
• 2:37:12
  the, it wasn't God, it was, it was the devil.
• 2:37:15
  It was him. You know, that was causing the
• 2:37:17
  same, trying to break my spirit. Trying to break my, will this,
• 2:37:23
  you know, to talk today until I'm Nicholas.
• 2:37:31
  I don't know if you realize this but your microphone keeps going
• 2:37:34
  out in and out. Yeah, I see it happen.
• 2:37:37
  Be theirs as well. He's you guys still there?
• 2:37:42
  Yeah, I hear you like cut in and out sometimes.
• 2:37:45
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:37:46
  You are a little bit, but my point is, is just it made me who
• 2:37:52
  I am today. You know we live in a fallen
• 2:37:55
  World. Some of us are going to suffer
• 2:37:57
  and but in the end you know, it's so this is one of my
• 2:38:02
  favorite stories. Can you guys still hear me?
• 2:38:06
  Go ahead. Okay, well, my favorite
• 2:38:09
  analogies that I've heard. It's kind of like.
• 2:38:12
  So there's these people, they're on an airplane, right?
• 2:38:15
  And they're flying to a destination and this guy he has
• 2:38:18
  a parachute on right and he's uncomfortable in his seat.
• 2:38:23
  Everybody's laughing at him. Why are you wearing this
• 2:38:26
  parachute? What's wrong with you?
• 2:38:28
  You know, and they're making fun of him.
• 2:38:29
  And his back is hurting because he's still wearing it and
• 2:38:33
  they're like, what is going on? You know why you were in it?
• 2:38:36
  Then he's just like but see he knew in the end that plane was
• 2:38:40
  going to crash before it landed, right?
• 2:38:42
  He knew that that parachute was going to save his life.
• 2:38:44
  So even though everyone was making fun of him, he was
• 2:38:47
  uncomfortable, his back was hurting.
• 2:38:50
  He couldn't seat and sit in the seat properly.
• 2:38:52
  He knew that parachute was going to save his life and it's kind
• 2:38:55
  of the same thing with us as Christians, right?
• 2:38:57
  People laugh at us, they make fun of us.
• 2:39:00
  They don't understand why we believe what we do, but we know
• 2:39:03
  in the end that there's going to be a crash is going to be it.
• 2:39:06
  There's going to be an ending, you know.
• 2:39:08
  And when that plane is going down and everybody, you know,
• 2:39:12
  doesn't have a parachute and they're all dying and falling
• 2:39:15
  out and he's able to jump out and pull that parachute.
• 2:39:18
  Now, people are like, oh, oops, we should have made fun of you.
• 2:39:21
  We should have done the same thing, you know.
• 2:39:23
  And that's kind of the Christian Life.
• 2:39:25
  You know, we're gonna be made fun of.
• 2:39:27
  We're gonna have problems, it's not always going to be
• 2:39:29
  comfortable. God, never promised that, but we
• 2:39:32
  do know that that parachute is going to save our life in the
• 2:39:34
  end. And to Me, that's such an
• 2:39:37
  encouragement because it's like, yeah, I've had rough times, I've
• 2:39:40
  had struggles, I've had issues, but in the end, I know where I'm
• 2:39:44
  going. So I'm happy, you know, I smile
• 2:39:47
  every day and with my family, every day, like life is good.
• 2:39:51
  Even if I suffer not struggles and pain, life is good, you
• 2:39:55
  know, because I know in the end, I have that parachute on which
• 2:39:58
  is Christ, you know, so it's always been a good example for
• 2:40:02
  me. Well, I will have to say like
• 2:40:13
  you are one of the only people, I other than myself who said
• 2:40:16
  that, they don't like religion and they, it's all.
• 2:40:20
  It's all about a relationship. I have said that for so many
• 2:40:22
  years. So many people and everyone
• 2:40:24
  looks at me, like, I'm crazy, like, my crazy.
• 2:40:26
  Do you get the same like reaction to people?
• 2:40:28
  Just look at, like, what do you mean?
• 2:40:29
  Christianity is not a religion. What you talking about?
• 2:40:33
  Yes to a point. I it's more they just assume I'm
• 2:40:38
  in a religion you know I don't like no.
• 2:40:41
  It's I mean at least it's a relationship.
• 2:40:44
  Exactly. It's I like the way you put it
• 2:40:47
  just perfectly. By the way you said.
• 2:40:49
  It's not about like what I can do to get theirs.
• 2:40:51
  What he already did for me. All I got to do is accept it.
• 2:40:54
  So you're saved by faith through Grace are saved by grace through
• 2:40:57
  faith. So I said it backwards, I was I
• 2:41:01
  was um, so one person You asked me and this is probably a good
• 2:41:04
  conversation starter for everybody.
• 2:41:06
  They asked me if if you're saved are you always saved?
• 2:41:11
  Because some people say yeah, once you're saved, you're always
• 2:41:13
  saved. But I think I thought about I
• 2:41:14
  said, well I don't know, I don't think you are because if you're
• 2:41:18
  saved by faith through Grace and that would mean that the moment
• 2:41:22
  you lose Faith, you're not saved anymore, right?
• 2:41:26
  I would say this is where I would say yes and no, right?
• 2:41:32
  If, if you really believe and it truly is true to you, nothing is
• 2:41:38
  going to rock that, right? And there are many people that
• 2:41:41
  say, I know Christ, I believe in him and God says, to him, I
• 2:41:45
  never knew you. So, I think that you were never
• 2:41:49
  saved in the first place, right? You never actually really true.
• 2:41:53
  Leave, I think, once you're saved, you are always safe.
• 2:41:56
  Says, once I have you in my hand I will never let you go, right?
• 2:42:00
  He says, you are you you will never be let go now when we fall
• 2:42:04
  away and struggle, and be angry. And yes, but deep down, it's,
• 2:42:11
  you always know, you know what I mean.
• 2:42:13
  Now, if you never actually believed, it was never actually
• 2:42:16
  true. Then you were never saved in the
• 2:42:18
  first place. So, I do believe once you're
• 2:42:19
  saved, you're always say, but did you really believe it in the
• 2:42:24
  first place? Is the real question and only,
• 2:42:26
  God knows that answer. And that's where I don't judge
• 2:42:28
  people. I don't get onto them, you know,
• 2:42:31
  maybe that's between them and God.
• 2:42:32
  Right. You know, it's just all I know
• 2:42:35
  is that I do believe, once you're saved, you're always says
• 2:42:38
  God says, he'll never let you go, never.
• 2:42:41
  Yeah, you know, PRI have yeah, that's yes.
• 2:42:44
  He see, I have a slightly. Yeah, I have a slightly
• 2:42:48
  different attitude, but you know, because I kind of did
• 2:42:52
  flip-flop between the two, but I came to this conclusion.
• 2:42:56
  Even if you are once saved always saved.
• 2:42:59
  Don't assume your one saved away saved.
• 2:43:02
  So now that's a good mindset to have when you go on because if
• 2:43:05
  you if you just assume that you're saved and everything's
• 2:43:09
  going to be okay, you're going to become complacent or can
• 2:43:13
  become complacent. Whereas if you assume you're not
• 2:43:16
  even if you are that's a quite a good mindset to take to to keep
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  you on track, you know? And if you really are saved,
• 2:43:26
  you're going to stay on track or I mean, you may fall off, but
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  eventually God's going to bring you right back.
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  I mean, even when I was angry at the Lord, and I was hurt, I
• 2:43:36
  didn't understand what was going on and why, you know, especially
• 2:43:40
  these healing people that so like, you're healed and your
• 2:43:43
  trust me, I went to those churches, I went to those
• 2:43:45
  places, I was prayed over, I still wasn't healed in it and I
• 2:43:49
  thought, you know, they tell you, well, it's your faith that
• 2:43:51
  you don't believe I'm like, wait but didn't You say that your
• 2:43:54
  faith is strong enough that I'd be heal so is it?
• 2:43:57
  My faith are you're right, you know, and eventually I had to
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  realize that, you know, God uses me because of what I go through
• 2:44:06
  it. And he only promises that in the
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  end that I will be well and before him and he, you know,
• 2:44:12
  what I mean? And so I do believe sure.
• 2:44:16
  Do some people get healed. Absolutely God can do that.
• 2:44:19
  Can people heal people know, it's God, that does it, you know
• 2:44:22
  what I mean? It's his choice is incision and
• 2:44:26
  and, you know, some of us may end up with cancer and we may
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  suffer, we may die, we that doesn't change the fact that he
• 2:44:32
  loves us and died for us and is there, you know what I mean?
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  So I think if you really truly believe there's always that part
• 2:44:42
  of you than in the back of your mind even though you're varying
• 2:44:45
  off, you still believe it. You know, I mean you might be
• 2:44:48
  angry, you might be sinning. You might, you know?
• 2:44:51
  I mean there's still no in the back.
• 2:44:53
  Of your your mind in your heart. That You.
• 2:44:57
  He is true. He did, he did die for you.
• 2:44:59
  He did forgive you of your sins. And and so I guess like I said,
• 2:45:05
  I do believe those verses were says, once I have you in my
• 2:45:08
  clutches, I always have you. I just think that there's a lot
• 2:45:11
  of people that they just said the prayer, you know, and that's
• 2:45:14
  where I kind of argue with Ken. A lot is like, he's like, well,
• 2:45:18
  I would say this many people and I've done this like but did you
• 2:45:21
  Mentor them? Did you stay with him?
• 2:45:22
  Did you or do they just say it? Because They believed your
• 2:45:26
  little thing that they actually repent and turn and change their
• 2:45:30
  life. And really truly believe it
• 2:45:33
  because if you believe that you'll live it, you know, and
• 2:45:35
  the Bible talks about that that if you really truly believe you
• 2:45:39
  will live it. And I mean and and your life
• 2:45:42
  will show it. Now you may not always be
• 2:45:45
  perfect, you may mess up. You may slip away a little bit,
• 2:45:47
  but you still believe it, you still live it.
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  And so I kind of kind of like, with predestination Action and
• 2:45:56
  Free Will. It's both, you know, I mean, to
• 2:45:58
  me, it's once saved, always saved.
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  Yes, but did you really actually believed it to be saved in the
• 2:46:05
  first place? And God is the only one that
• 2:46:07
  knows that, you know, they mean, in the end.
• 2:46:09
  So I guess that's my, my thought on, let me, let me ask you
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  something, because I do notice that there's a lot of folks out
• 2:46:16
  there that are Christians on YouTube, who do believe in the
• 2:46:21
  what is referred to as oh SAS. There are a lot of passes,
• 2:46:27
  especially in Galatians, where it talks about people falling
• 2:46:31
  from Grace? What do you think that that
• 2:46:33
  means whenever it's talking about that?
• 2:46:38
  You asking me or Rob to well, they either one of you guys
• 2:46:43
  what's your view on that? It says that people can actually
• 2:46:47
  fall out of Grace with with God, Galatians 5:4, Galatians 1, 12.
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  And there's also a passage that kind of hints at that in James
• 2:46:58
  5, 19, through 20. Yeah, and I think that's the
• 2:47:05
  thing I do believe. I mean, when you read the story
• 2:47:07
  of never Nebuchadnezzar, he gives people such a Long Leash
• 2:47:12
  of falling away and the question is, how far an easy permanent?
• 2:47:18
  How far do they fall from great and easy permanent?
• 2:47:21
  And I have to be honest, I don't 100% know and that's kind of
• 2:47:26
  where I'm at. I lean towards one saved, always
• 2:47:31
  I'll save, you know, God will never leave you or forsake you.
• 2:47:34
  That's where I lean towards, but I'm not 100% on that, to be
• 2:47:38
  honest, you know? But he does give such a Long
• 2:47:41
  Leash. You know, when you look at half
• 2:47:43
  are falling, people do go and make mistakes and do evil
• 2:47:47
  things. He has such long-standing, you
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  know. Yeah, I agree.
• 2:47:52
  Yeah, like I said, once again he really he knows your heart, you
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  know? And that's because we mess up
• 2:47:58
  and, and yeah, Falling Away From Grace.
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  I think that's part of man, that's right Godzilla one that
• 2:48:07
  can really Define that and how far we can fall and still be
• 2:48:13
  Still actually, like, that's where it comes.
• 2:48:16
  Did you really believe it or not?
• 2:48:17
  And that's for God, really knows your heart, you know?
• 2:48:19
  I mean, you can love someone like how many people love their
• 2:48:24
  ex-wife but they they hate him, right?
• 2:48:29
  But but the difference is, as a point where God draws you back
• 2:48:33
  in and because you really do have that love, it's a real
• 2:48:36
  passion. And yeah, we do fall from grace
• 2:48:40
  and I think that's also part of too.
• 2:48:43
  Is God's grace. Where how do I say this?
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  I mean you could be going out and now be a gangster selling
• 2:48:53
  drugs and even though he believed in God right now you
• 2:48:57
  fallen out of his grace at that point, right?
• 2:48:59
  He's no longer protecting you, he's no longer over your life
• 2:49:02
  and, and you're going to face the consequences of your
• 2:49:04
  decision where but Nicholas, one reason why I bring it up is
• 2:49:09
  because the Bible uses words like reprobate.
• 2:49:13
  Even people who basically, they went so far to the I hate to say
• 2:49:17
  left or right because I'm people think we're having a political
• 2:49:20
  discussion, but it gets to a point where it even says.
• 2:49:25
  Another one of these verses that at some point a person can have
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  God will put a lying lips on them, and they will be
• 2:49:34
  delusional. They'll think that everything's
• 2:49:36
  us and also says there's going to be people who say, well, I
• 2:49:40
  did this and I did that and I did right by God.
• 2:49:43
  God, so everything's fine and then he says, I never knew you.
• 2:49:47
  So this is a reason why I get kind of wobbly on this.
• 2:49:51
  I mean, I would love to think that I could just, you know,
• 2:49:54
  have every screw-up on the planet and and not do this.
• 2:49:58
  Another thing too, I noticed some Christians say, well we
• 2:50:01
  don't we don't have to worry about works.
• 2:50:04
  It's all about how you believe in your intention, your
• 2:50:06
  motivation. But right out the bad in the
• 2:50:09
  Book of Revelation. When God's kicking the Yet out
• 2:50:13
  of the churches, which is one of the first groups he goes out
• 2:50:16
  there. He says, I have judge them based
• 2:50:19
  upon not only their sins, which is Iniquity against the law, but
• 2:50:23
  I'm also judging them based upon works.
• 2:50:27
  So when I hear Christian, say works on important anymore I'm
• 2:50:30
  like wait a minute God's about to go scorched Earth.
• 2:50:33
  Up in here, what do we get now I can appreciate where some people
• 2:50:38
  are getting their ideas from but some of its kind of, you know, I
• 2:50:42
  look at this. Book all the time.
• 2:50:44
  And I'm like, hmm. Yeah.
• 2:50:46
  Well this is my point on this is where God knows your heart,
• 2:50:49
  right? If you truly believe, then your
• 2:50:54
  Works will match your belief right.
• 2:50:56
  You are going to do those works because you believe In Christ.
• 2:51:01
  And so, therefore your belief will match your actions.
• 2:51:05
  Now, can you fall away? Can you have it yet?
• 2:51:08
  But this is where, like I said, God knows your heart and that's
• 2:51:11
  where I believe. Once you truly believe, you
• 2:51:14
  always believe in. God has your help then, but if
• 2:51:17
  you really didn't, if you just did it to say the sinner's
• 2:51:19
  prayer, if you just did it because you felt convicted at
• 2:51:23
  that moment and it wasn't actually true to you.
• 2:51:26
  If you really do believe it, God is really in your heart.
• 2:51:30
  Even if you screw up and fall away, your actions will follow
• 2:51:35
  your beliefs. And this is where I think this
• 2:51:39
  is where God makes that judgment in the end because he knows your
• 2:51:42
  heart. He knows your heart, he knows,
• 2:51:44
  does he really believe? And he's just angry and messing
• 2:51:47
  up, or he never believed in the first place.
• 2:51:49
  And just did it to fit in or because he wanted to make the
• 2:51:53
  preacher happy or right. God, God knows your heart.
• 2:51:57
  And if you really believe your actions will Match your heart
• 2:52:01
  and that's where I think yes. Works aren't important, right?
• 2:52:06
  As your works because there are people that don't believe and do
• 2:52:09
  the works and they're not going to heaven right there.
• 2:52:13
  Just doing the works because they want to prove to everybody.
• 2:52:15
  See, I'm a good guy. I'm doing what's right?
• 2:52:17
  I'm following God. God knows their heart, their
• 2:52:20
  heart. They're not doing it because,
• 2:52:21
  her heart is right there. Doing it as a show, where
• 2:52:25
  someone who truly believes their Works will match their beliefs.
• 2:52:30
  So, you should be following, what God has said, you should be
• 2:52:34
  doing what? He's commanded of you, because
• 2:52:36
  you believe him and because he's your savior and because he's
• 2:52:39
  your God, so therefore, you want to follow and and in the end,
• 2:52:44
  God is the one who makes that judgment.
• 2:52:46
  And I don't really, of course, Ali, Robin Nicholas.
• 2:52:50
  I feel like Christians that are are at a major disadvantage in
• 2:52:54
  social media, because we can't really, unless we know, someone
• 2:52:58
  personally, or we've hung out with them.
• 2:53:00
  We can't see their actions, any any atheist can get up on a
• 2:53:04
  video and say they're the most wonderful loving charitable
• 2:53:07
  person they are. But while they're smiling and
• 2:53:10
  having this joyous face, while making the video, they could be
• 2:53:14
  having people kidnapped and sitting on a dungeon playing
• 2:53:17
  with birds and rats on the wall at the moment.
• 2:53:19
  You can't know. That's why I feel like
• 2:53:22
  Christians are the disadvantaged and social media.
• 2:53:24
  You never know what you're actually dealing with until
• 2:53:27
  something personally happens to you.
• 2:53:29
  You can't see them. Actions, and evaluate the
• 2:53:31
  behavior. Yes, absolutely.
• 2:53:34
  I know. I agree.
• 2:53:35
  And also, the other thing is what you said about when Jesus
• 2:53:37
  says, I never knew you, that shows relationship and that's
• 2:53:42
  where a lot of the Catholics are going to fail because they just,
• 2:53:45
  you know, look at Jesus as being this person.
• 2:53:48
  Yeah. And they don't have this
• 2:53:50
  relationship with them and it's all about the the book or
• 2:53:55
  whatever. And that's going to be part of
• 2:53:57
  the part of the problem at the end of like, you say, break you.
• 2:54:00
  Can't read Christians minds or you can't even read atheist -
• 2:54:04
  you know, so we're not going to know.
• 2:54:05
  You know, what do you mean like? Catholics don't have a
• 2:54:08
  relationship with Jesus. I just want to say as the I'm
• 2:54:11
  from Hunger for you here. Yeah.
• 2:54:14
  So I don't know where you're hearing this but if you're
• 2:54:19
  getting it from the mouth of another Protestant, there's a
• 2:54:21
  good chance. It's not true.
• 2:54:24
  No. Basically we've met I know
• 2:54:27
  personally know Catholics who just go Through the ritual
• 2:54:30
  because they were born into Catholicism.
• 2:54:33
  So, do plenty of Protestants all agree?
• 2:54:35
  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
• 2:54:38
  I do, yeah. Absolutely.
• 2:54:39
  I agree with that as well, where they just choose to believe I'm
• 2:54:42
  talking about the born-again experience.
• 2:54:44
  And, you know, I mean, the reason I mention Catholics is
• 2:54:48
  that I personally have experienced with Catholics who
• 2:54:51
  have that mindset that the and I don't even call myself a
• 2:54:55
  Protestant. I called myself a born again
• 2:54:57
  Christian that's how I class myself.
• 2:55:00
  Yeah. That's our Protestant thing to
• 2:55:01
  say well water I agree with you that there's groups are in all
• 2:55:06
  different sides where some people just get into a routine
• 2:55:10
  and it just becomes like robotic for them and all that.
• 2:55:13
  So I do hear you on that. Hopefully you guys aren't going
• 2:55:16
  to have like a Catholic Protestant War.
• 2:55:18
  We already had one of those didn't work out too well.
• 2:55:22
  No, no. It's all know that.
• 2:55:24
  That wasn't. That wasn't the point.
• 2:55:25
  Really, that the point was that, if you're going to look at the
• 2:55:29
  book or look at the pipe or look at your works, then that's not a
• 2:55:33
  relationship with Jesus. That's my point basically.
• 2:55:38
  It's all about relationship. Oh Rob.
• 2:55:42
  I didn't get a chance to say this to you earlier but it
• 2:55:46
  sounds awesome. You said that you went through
• 2:55:48
  an adoption period and all that and got a four-year-old over
• 2:55:51
  there. That's a fantastic that you take
• 2:55:54
  care of somebody in need. Yeah.
• 2:55:57
  That yeah. Thanks and he wasn't my choice,
• 2:56:00
  it wasn't. And to be fair me and my wife
• 2:56:03
  didn't think we would qualify to it to Foster to beach to be
• 2:56:08
  truthful. But God, did so many things.
• 2:56:11
  Things to make it work, it was mind-blowing.
• 2:56:14
  And ironically, this is, you know, I'm going to touch a
• 2:56:18
  little bit on the LGBT stuff. My wife sister is a lesbian.
• 2:56:25
  Yeah. And she actually helped us with
• 2:56:30
  going through social services and giving her testimony
• 2:56:33
  regarding us adopting. So this idea that there's this
• 2:56:37
  big war between LGBT and Christians, it's not That's
• 2:56:42
  because obviously we have a good relationship with my wife,
• 2:56:45
  sister who is a lesbian so that just goes to show you, you know,
• 2:56:49
  when we talk about relationship in general, you know, so yeah.
• 2:56:52
  So he wasn't my choice and you know, and the little girls got
• 2:56:57
  problems. And that's why psychology and
• 2:57:01
  actually going through and studying how the brain works and
• 2:57:04
  what happens through trauma. He's a big help and
• 2:57:07
  understanding especially to Born Again Christians who have gone
• 2:57:10
  through trauma. Because it gives you a bigger
• 2:57:12
  understanding of yourself and why you act the way you do, you
• 2:57:16
  know, the what they called, the survival brain, black and white
• 2:57:21
  thinking. When you look at that and you go
• 2:57:24
  through trauma and your analyze, why you act the way you do, it
• 2:57:27
  answers a lot of questions and then understanding is also part
• 2:57:32
  of how God can also heal you. You know, he can take that
• 2:57:37
  understanding that you've got and then add wisdom to that and
• 2:57:41
  he I'll change your mindset accordingly based on that.
• 2:57:43
  So, so much learning I've been doing lately, you know?
• 2:57:47
  I mean not only that it's it's not our job to always.
• 2:57:51
  Convince everybody else, you know?
• 2:57:54
  Like that's where I get so upset with so many Christians and
• 2:57:57
  people it's like I'll use soon as example, I love saying.
• 2:58:01
  Yeah, I do and I know her arthritis and she's for it, but
• 2:58:05
  it's like sometimes she needs to just be patient and let God do
• 2:58:08
  the work, you know? And I many friends like that,
• 2:58:11
  not just her, you know, there's many people that are like that
• 2:58:14
  they feel they need to convince, they need to eat.
• 2:58:17
  You listen. Now you need to you know, it's
• 2:58:19
  like you brought this whole thing that happened.
• 2:58:21
  It's like I have to convince him now and it's like, no, that's
• 2:58:25
  the holy spirit's job. My job is to just be nice loving
• 2:58:29
  and supportive and it's always fair deal with it from there,
• 2:58:32
  you know. And so yeah, that's that's
• 2:58:34
  awesome. That you realize that and
• 2:58:35
  adopted and me and my wife have been thinking about that instead
• 2:58:39
  of having more kids with thinking, either a doctor.
• 2:58:41
  And hopefully, we get to a point where we can yet and it's just
• 2:58:45
  it's just sad that We have such a negative connotation with the
• 2:58:51
  LGBT and transgender and all that stuff because excuse me, my
• 2:58:56
  sins aren't any different than theirs, you know?
• 2:59:00
  Like I like that's the holy spirit's job.
• 2:59:03
  My job is to just be kind and supportive and, you know, one of
• 2:59:07
  my best friends from San Diego, is now, it went from being gay
• 2:59:10
  to being married and having kids to now, he's a transgender
• 2:59:15
  whatever. I mean that's No, I think he
• 2:59:17
  kind of reached out thinking I was going to judge and say how
• 2:59:21
  dare you know I was like oh well I hope you're happy and you know
• 2:59:25
  you ever want to talk. I'm here and I'll be praying for
• 2:59:28
  you and hope you're okay. You know?
• 2:59:29
  I mean and that's that's that's all supposed to do now if they
• 2:59:33
  ask me a direct question, is it is?
• 2:59:36
  Yeah, but even then he already knows that and we we led the
• 2:59:41
  worship team together at the church.
• 2:59:43
  That that's how I met him, you know?
• 2:59:45
  I mean it's so what. I'm going to say different than
• 2:59:48
  he doesn't already know. Oh, I heard used to be an
• 2:59:50
  example and, and support him and be there for him.
• 2:59:53
  Her, guys, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be just to give you kind
• 2:59:57
  of a heads up. I'm going to be shutting down a
• 2:59:59
  little bit. If I go any longer than I have
• 3:00:02
  to throw the whole stream into an editing program, cut it in
• 3:00:05
  half, in order to be able to put on the radio, I'm limited to
• 3:00:08
  under four hours and stuff and we're going on three hour mark,
• 3:00:12
  but I do want to ask you guys since you're all here and you
• 3:00:15
  all have your own different talk and personal relationship.
• 3:00:19
  As most of, you know, I made a video expressing my views about
• 3:00:23
  homosexuality and also the extreme spectrum of some
• 3:00:28
  religious folks out there. And what we heard on my message
• 3:00:31
  machine. I'm sure some of you heard that
• 3:00:33
  already. I have looked and looked
• 3:00:36
  throughout the Bible, and I cannot find why it is that
• 3:00:39
  homosexuality is actually considered a sin.
• 3:00:43
  The only thing I see it in correlation with the sexual
• 3:00:46
  perversion Mmm, but what is it about the act of homosexuality?
• 3:00:50
  Why some religious folks out there actually think it's worth
• 3:00:53
  a capital offense. Do you know of this besides just
• 3:00:57
  saying that it is, God doesn't like it.
• 3:01:02
  I mean I don't I don't feel so. Yeah.
• 3:01:06
  In the Old Testament, there are implications that God is
• 3:01:12
  punishing people for homosexuality.
• 3:01:15
  And I think in Second Kings if I know in Genesis, they people try
• 3:01:26
  to have sex with two angels. They are presumably male and God
• 3:01:31
  Punishes the city and Paul also talks.
• 3:01:35
  When Paul is talking about marriage in his letters he talks
• 3:01:38
  about a man and a woman. Yeah.
• 3:01:41
  I'm aware of it. There's like 50 verses that
• 3:01:44
  well, I didn't finish. I mean, I think the people that
• 3:01:47
  interpret that as being in the know, this is this is not the
• 3:01:52
  mainstream Catholic view. But I think the people that
• 3:01:55
  hardcore interpret that as being against any sort of like normal,
• 3:02:01
  Aish. I don't know about marriage, but
• 3:02:03
  like, normalization of homosexual, relationships.
• 3:02:06
  I think those people are going too far.
• 3:02:08
  I think they're reading too much into it.
• 3:02:10
  I don't think the bible really says that I do.
• 3:02:12
  The marriage thing is Up For Debate because, you know, like I
• 3:02:15
  said, Paul talks about and and woman in marriage, so that's Up
• 3:02:19
  For Debate. But just, you know, people that
• 3:02:22
  are so homophobic that they just hate gay people.
• 3:02:24
  They based on the Bible, I don't see where they're getting that.
• 3:02:29
  Well, I'm trying to understand for the life of me yet, there
• 3:02:32
  was a guy I was arguing with the long time ago in the Rosa former
• 3:02:36
  atheist and stuff and I told him I said man you not even know if
• 3:02:41
  I'm going to hate somebody. I need a reason to get this say
• 3:02:45
  because this is just this and that's the way it is.
• 3:02:49
  What is it about? The act of it though?
• 3:02:52
  I understand I mean I could throw out 50 verses for you
• 3:02:55
  right now where it says this is bad and this Is bad.
• 3:02:58
  But what is it about the ACT? If you tell me adultery is
• 3:03:02
  wrong, I totally get that. If you tell me that, you know,
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  disobeying God in some kind of way where it causes people to
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  stumble. I get that I under, I see the
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  the action and reaction from it, but what is it about?
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  Homosexuality, only thing I've heard that is somewhat useful is
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  being in that position. You wouldn't go to reproduce,
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  but as you said, Rob, you can adopt you can adopt So once I
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  drink, well, yeah, I would say firstly anal sex, even with a
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  woman, I believe he's not right either.
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  So, you know, if you take that out equation, that's, that's a,
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  you know, I believe that that is not right either.
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  So, I would that's with regard to the act in Romans 1, it talks
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  about where it goes against nature.
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  ER, and that seems to also be the issue where God is saying
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  that it goes against nature and the natural use of the woman
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  etc, etc. And that books about women and
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  obviously, not just men and also the other thing I would say is,
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  you know what we've discussed before about when you have a
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  child who's biologically related to you, there is this spiritual
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  connection you have with that child.
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  Especially when you're under gold or more righteous or
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  whatever that science can't explain.
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  So of course if everybody is just going to get into gay
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  relationships or most people and then just adopt other people's
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  children. What you find is that often
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  those children grow up with big problems.
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  Psychological problems and it's just a fact of nature,
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  unfortunately. So that's the other thing I
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  would say the Bible talks about it as going.
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  Against nature and I think that we have Rob.
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  We got somebody out and calm and seizures where in the Bible does
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  it say to adopt or anything? There's a lot of things that
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  aren't mentioned in Bible. I don't recall one time at
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  talking about how to use a roll of toilet paper.
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  It doesn't mean toilet, paper, doesn't exist.
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  I had argument mr. And vaccinated work on it, but
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  at let's go ahead. So like he was talking about.
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  Yes, it's unnatural Mainly, it's that God designed.
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  The family right to have a man and a woman.
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  If you look at the statistics, most people in prison didn't
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  have a father. Most people that have problems.
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  It's because they didn't have a father and a mother, right?
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  God designed us in a way to have a father and a mother, the
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  father normally tends to be the The Authority, right?
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  And then the woman tends to be the soft and love and kind and
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  this is, this is the way that God Designed us, right to have a
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  mother and a father. And so the problem with having
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  two fathers or the or two mothers, right?
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  Because so many people are, oh, I'm okay with two women, not
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  okay with two men, right? That's ridiculous.
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  Not only that it's you know, when God made it he said there's
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  male and female. There's also a structure to the
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  family of the man supposed to be the head of the family.
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  I believe. See Satan is directly attacking
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  the Only because he knows that if he takes away a woman's
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  position to raise Godly men and women that he can then destroy
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  the world, right. That's the whole point, is that
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  he can do that now, does that mean, then that we sit there and
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  in America, right, in a free country and say that two, men
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  can't marry me. Well, they can it's free country
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  right now. I is that the way God designed
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  Signed it know. Are they doing a sin any
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  differently than any of us, anybody else?
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  No, absolutely not. And that's where I still love
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  them. And they're for them.
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  Now, what I want my kids adopted by two men or two women, no,
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  because they need a father and a mother.
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  That's the way God designed it. That's the way that God created
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  us to do that. So I don't think their sin is
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  any worse than any other sin. They even God in the Old
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  Testament, talked about killing women who Adultery and stoning
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  them to death, right? It's it's no different than any
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  other sin in the Old Testament the whole point of sin and wrong
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  why it was to show us as an example that we all deserve
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  death for all sins. Not just one or another or
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  differently and this is where the men to give us a way out of
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  that and a forgiveness for that that Mom unfortunately so far I
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  don't know if He's going to be able to do it because I haven't
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  been able to find it. I'm still trying to figure out
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  the act as far as us being designed to be able to do these
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  things. There's a problem.
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  Even if every man and woman in the world had children and stuff
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  in there, wasn't this issue. Unfortunately we live in a world
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  where even if people try to be the best nuclear family they can
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  sometimes men get killed on the way to work.
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  Sometimes women have accidents unfortunate things, are they
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  have cancer? And they're not able to have
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  children. So adoption and all these things
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  do come and do circumference. Now, if you you say that you
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  wouldn't want a homosexual couple to adopt.
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  Would you rather if the option was, what an uncle, that, you
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  know, is a good person, or a sister-in-law or something like
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  this to take over to kid, but they happen to be gay.
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  Would you rather the kid go with one of your homosexual,
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  relations, or be thrown into a system where it can be extremely
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  abusive? They're surrounded by
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  psychiatric children and juveniles.
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  You may beat the shit out of them.
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  Every minute of the day, or let them go to the homosexual,
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  Uncle. Well, let's see.
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  That's where you're providing too bad cases, right?
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  It's it's not that I'd rather than being either, right?
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  And that's where, This is where unfortunately we live in a
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  fallen world and so yes, you're right.
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  You have to make a decision then at that point, right?
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  But my thing is, I believe that Satan is trying to directly
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  attack the structure of the family, the way that God set it
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  up and provided it where man is supposed to be the head and the
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  woman Arnie that but in that situation is it like Kent hovind
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  where I'm supposed to control everything and you shut up and
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  no no we're supposed to listen, she's our partner, she's there.
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  For Our advice, we are supposed to treat her as Christ.
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  Treated the church, which he gave his life for the church.
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  So we are to sacrifice ourselves for her and the way that God set
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  it up, you're not going to Milan to that where the the woman and
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  the man was exactly no, that's what I'm saying.
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  That's where you're right. That is a rare case and we're
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  like to thank that system. Would women and men necklace?
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  Every single day men and women died.
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  Thousands of people they die from whatever reason.
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  So it's not a, it's not just a hypothetical, what would the
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  choice be? Let them go with the relation
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  that is homosexual or put the kid in the system to be lost in
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  it. Well, that's what I just said.
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  I said in a fallen World. Unfortunately, I agree with you
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  that it would be better to put It looks like his mic went out
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  again Rob. Do you have any Rob?
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  Do you have any views? I mean earlier you said it was
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  because of the lesbian woman. Why you were able to do the
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  adoption the first place? Sounds like something positive
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  happened out of it. Yeah it did absolutely so God
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  uses absolutely anybody and everybody pays glory and I mean
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  in with regard to The Conch comment to it to the adoption.
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  In some 60 80 talks about a father to the fatherless a
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  Defender. Our of widows is God in his holy
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  dwelling and it's about being a father to the fatherless and you
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  know a mother to the marvellous as well.
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  And this is where, you know, adoption.
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  Of course it's not illegal and it's absolutely necessary also
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  because a death because if mother and father died, you
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  know, how's the kids going to cope?
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  So they've got to go somewhere at least with you know, one
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  parent or another. But Again again, it boils down
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  to character. That's what it boils down to,
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  then thing is you've got Social Services have got to try and get
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  to the bottom of someone's character and you know, it's not
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  ideal for children to go to how you're homosexual men.
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  Because again it's it's back to this, you know, you need a
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  mother and a father from both angles to cycle.
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  Logically help bring up the child because otherwise they
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  will get into problems. You know if you don't have a man
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  and the woman you know, in the household it is very hard so
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  they would suffer more psychological issues in a
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  relationship with two men and just as they the same as they'd
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  suffered psychological issues, you know, in an abusive man and
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  woman relationship. So that's all I'd say on that,
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  you know. I've been mr.
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  Rob, one of the reasons why this issue bothers me like a does is
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  being that I've done. All the kind of shows that I've
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  done way in the past. Everything, I can't tell you how
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  many times I've gotten in the private conversations as well as
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  her my life show where you get young people who come in and say
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  that they've been literally kicked out of their homes by
• 3:13:21
  their Christian parents because they couldn't accept them for
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  saying, look, I'm a I'm gay. I'm homosexual and I'm getting
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  tired. Aaron families, get broken up
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  over, you know, somebody sexual preference.
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  Well, getting so tired of hearing about family's falling
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  apart or some kind of horrible thing happen and then the kids
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  got nothing. So I feel like we need to
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  sometime in the next decade. It either has to be something
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  where we adapt. Our we figure out a different
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  way of doing things because this is not working the way it's
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  going. Well, that's no different than
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  love this guy. Did I mean hate the sin?
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  Love The Sinner, exactly. Yep.
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  Yeah. I know I would never for one
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  minute ever kick her child for being homosexual at all.
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  You know, because your child is going to see in the in one way,
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  shape or form. He's going to do you know,
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  wicked things. And the thing is is that, you
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  know, eats a mindset. Yeah.
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  It's a mindset that the homosexual people have and the
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  thing is again, it's Back to psychology.
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  So again, if you're not going to be kind of long standing and,
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  you know, put up with people with, you know, a different
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  mindset from you, then it's game over and I agree with you.
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  Brett. It is absolutely no reason to
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  to, for a family to to disown their child.
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  Just because of that, you know, I'm the same as you reach.
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  Just really, really sad. And the thing is, is that That I
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  think we ending up being in a more selfish you know kind of
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  pleasing yourself kind of society now whereby you're going
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  to get a lot of intolerance between parents and children.
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  Anyway now I think and there's you know, there's a lot of
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  family conflicts and I am not don't even know the stats of
• 3:15:26
  family breakups. Now, where family's disowned
• 3:15:28
  there children and marriages break up either because of their
• 3:15:32
  children or for selfish reasons. Society is going downhill badly.
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  I agree. There's definitely some issues
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  in society. That's that is for sure.
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  I do feel like it's going downhill, but go ahead, act.
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  If I could just put in for just a moment.
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  I think one thing that we need to need to stop at least in the
• 3:15:54
  u.s., I'm not sure how it is in the UK with you.
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  Rob. Is this thing that we've come to
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  where it means? Like, if I disagree, then, it
• 3:16:01
  automatically means. I don't accept you, when
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  therefore, I must hate you as a person, which that's not true at
• 3:16:06
  all. I personally don't agree with
• 3:16:08
  the homosexuality thing, but I accept the people because
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  they're human beings that I love them.
• 3:16:14
  I am commanded to do that. I'm not commanded to agree it.
• 3:16:18
  Also I think the thing is it's all about obedience rather than
• 3:16:23
  understanding. Some things we just won't
• 3:16:25
  understand if a bee dance, is better than sacrifice that.
• 3:16:29
  I believe it also takes priority over understanding, Well with me
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  and you are guy, you are absolutely saved.
• 3:16:51
  So that's getting rid of that misconception for a start so you
• 3:16:56
  can have gay Christians. That's a while like to say on
• 3:16:59
  that a lot to clear that out. This Sunday, if you've never
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  been To mass before. Go find your local Catholic
• 3:17:07
  church and go experience the mass.
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  Alrighty, you got any last words there mr.
• 3:17:14
  Hacks, continue fighting the good fight.