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BRITNEY SPEARS 'VANISHES' AS CHARGES SWIRL · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, breaking news tonight Britney Spears
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  Speaker 1: vanishes as criminal charges swirl. I'm Nancy Grace, this is
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with
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  Speaker 1: us right now. I'm concerned about Britney Spears.
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  Speaker 2: Her ex husband has just released a book about his
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  Speaker 2: life with her.
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  Speaker 1: He knows how fragile she is and put this book
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  Speaker 1: out anyway. He's just looking for another payday. Is she
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  Speaker 1: spiraling out of control? Is there another conservatorship on the horizon? Now?
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  Speaker 1: The public worried that Britney Spears vanishes.
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  Speaker 2: Listen when Britney suddenly deletes her Instagram, she cuts ties
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  Speaker 2: with everyone she regularly communicates with, and that has those
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  Speaker 2: close to Spears very concerned. Insiders say Spears communicates using
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  Speaker 2: Instagram and social media not just to interact with fans,
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  Speaker 2: but it's how family and friends keep up with her
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  Speaker 2: as well. Now that she's gone Instagram silent, friends and
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  Speaker 2: family have no way of knowing how she is or
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  Speaker 2: where she is.
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  Speaker 1: Britney Spears seemingly dropping off the face of the earth,
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  Speaker 1: but out to renown psycho analyst doctor Bethany Marshall joining
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  Speaker 1: us out of Britney Spears Jurisdiction in California. You can
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  Speaker 1: see her now on peacock. She's the author of deal Breaker,
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  Speaker 1: and you can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot
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  Speaker 1: com doctor Bethany Marshall. She seemingly lives on social like
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  Speaker 1: there's no life outside of social So when she drops
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  Speaker 1: off the map, off insta, I mean, I think a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people have a guilty pleasure, a prurient interest
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  Speaker 1: in watching her bizarre instit twirls and videos that we
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  Speaker 1: see pop up. She goes radio silent.
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  Speaker 3: Why you know what I would wonder if she was
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  Speaker 3: my patient, And again I've never treated her, I have
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  Speaker 3: not evaluated her, is if she's in some kind of
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  Speaker 3: what we would call a manic episode. And in mania,
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  Speaker 3: there's excessive goal directed activity, drug used hypersexuality, impulsivity, and
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  Speaker 3: most notoriously, lack of insight into what is happening to them.
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  Speaker 3: People who are in a manic episode love to travel,
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  Speaker 3: they love to go places, and the beginning of the
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  Speaker 3: mania feels great because they feel on top of the world.
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  Speaker 3: But once they hit that crash, they really crash, and
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  Speaker 3: she could have become so disoriented she was unable to
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  Speaker 3: even access her install or a good friend got a
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  Speaker 3: hold of her and turned it off.
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  Speaker 4: For her for a week.
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious what you mean by that, all of that
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  Speaker 1: psycho discussion. What does it mean when someone's only life
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  Speaker 1: is on social media? That has to mean something. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just a trial while you're Bethany. That's why I'm
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  Speaker 1: asking you, what does that mean?
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  Speaker 3: Our first sense of self in life is what we
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  Speaker 3: see reflected in the eyes of our mothers. Okay, we smile,
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  Speaker 3: the mother smiles back. We know we smiled. Child actors
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  Speaker 3: and child musicians, the camera is their mother, okay. The
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  Speaker 3: camera consolidates their sense of self. Their self esteem rises
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  Speaker 3: and falls on the smiles and frowns of others. So
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  Speaker 3: herself is what she's putting forward in the camera. She
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  Speaker 3: may not feel that she has another self, but this
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  Speaker 3: is a socially created self which we all have. We
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  Speaker 3: just have it with people in our lives. She has
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  Speaker 3: it with her camera.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Speaking of people with prurient interests in Britney Spears,
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  Speaker 1: they don't listen to some of her music, but they
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  Speaker 1: love to watch those videos that my control room is
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  Speaker 1: obviously obsessed with. That's all they show They never show
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  Speaker 1: her with her children when she's out doing Mommy and
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  Speaker 1: me or any oh, there you go. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: you could dig up one picture of her coom where
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  Speaker 1: she's fully clothed.
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  Speaker 2: The vanishing act from Instagram causes spears fans to grow
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  Speaker 2: concern for her well being, as the weeks leading up
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  Speaker 2: to the silence was filled with social media rants and
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  Speaker 2: furious posts calling out her ex Kfaed for humiliating her
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  Speaker 2: through his memoir. Spears is then captured driving dangerously, crossing
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  Speaker 2: the center line, going on the shoulder and tailgating. A
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  Speaker 2: little more chaos than Silence de leads her Instagram friends
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  Speaker 2: and fans alike concerned.
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  Speaker 1: Straight out to rob Shooter. He is a PR guru
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  Speaker 1: that worked for years for Sewan Comes. I guess you
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  Speaker 1: had to hold your nose during all that time, but
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  Speaker 1: has worked with Britney Spears and has spent a lot
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  Speaker 1: of hours around her. His brand new novel has just
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  Speaker 1: hit Amazon. It's awesome. It started with a whisper. Only
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  Speaker 1: you could come up with that. He's also at robshooter
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  Speaker 1: dot substack dot com, robshooter. Why are her only friends
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  Speaker 1: on Insta? And why has she pulled a vanishing act.
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  Speaker 1: What did you observe with her when you worked around
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  Speaker 1: her to somehow justify this.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, for the Britney Spears that we're seeing today is
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  Speaker 5: the Britney Spears who has always existed. The difference was
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  Speaker 5: ten twenty years ago. There was a myth about her
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  Speaker 5: being a very different person, much more buttoned up, much
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  Speaker 5: more together, that was really put out by her record label.
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  Speaker 5: Now that that label has gone away, we're not seeing
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  Speaker 5: a different Britney. This is a really key point here.
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  Speaker 5: Britney hasn't changed. The truth has come out. She's always
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  Speaker 5: been that girl that was seeing they're dancing, and without
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  Speaker 5: the polish of a record label, a powerful company, we
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  Speaker 5: get to see the truth. So this is unvarnished Britney Spears.
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  Speaker 5: This is who she has always been. About her friends, Nancy,
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  Speaker 5: She's never had friends. She became famous at a very
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  Speaker 5: early age and she learned to dance and sing, but
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  Speaker 5: she didn't learn how to make friends. She has almost
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  Speaker 5: no in the business.
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  Speaker 6: I know.
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  Speaker 5: For years now, Brittany has been communicating with people through DMS,
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  Speaker 5: through social media. If you look at her phone, she
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  Speaker 5: does not have any phone numbers in that phone. She
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  Speaker 5: has apps to social media and that's how she communicates.
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  Speaker 5: This isn't new, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very curious. You've been around so many celebrities and
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  Speaker 1: really really big stars in her world. How can she
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  Speaker 1: even make friends? Of course, I started to say, how
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  Speaker 1: is that even relevant to the fact that she is
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  Speaker 1: endangering the public by driving over the double line or
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  Speaker 1: dancing with knives and so so so much more. But
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  Speaker 1: the reality is she doesn't have friends. In her position,
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  Speaker 1: how do you make friends and how can you trust them?
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  Speaker 1: Every man that comes into her life is a blood
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  Speaker 1: sucking parasite and that's putting mildly. Did you observe this
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  Speaker 1: while you were working around her.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody around Britney was on the payroll. Everybody around
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  Speaker 5: her was earning a living from her. There was nobody
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  Speaker 5: around her for the reasons of friendship because she was
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  Speaker 5: funny or witty or kind or smart. They were there
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  Speaker 5: because she is the cash cow. She makes tens of
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  Speaker 5: millions of dollars. Listen, it's really hard to make friends
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  Speaker 5: when you leave school. Later on in life, it's difficult
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  Speaker 5: to make friends. Add on top of that, her power,
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  Speaker 5: her fame, her wealth, it's almost impossible a lot of us, Nancy,
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  Speaker 5: we make friends at work. After we leave school or university,
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  Speaker 5: we get a job. Britney's job has ended. She has
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  Speaker 5: not worked in a long time, and when she did
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  Speaker 5: have a job, everybody around her was there for the
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  Speaker 5: wrong reasons. They were there to make money, not to
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  Speaker 5: make friends.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Fetter lines tell All You thought You knew is
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  Speaker 2: exposing a lack of closeness in spears inner circle, as
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  Speaker 2: she appears to have no one to share what she's
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  Speaker 2: thinking or feeling regarding the accusations being thrust on her.
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  Speaker 2: The source said Instagram is all she has left, and
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  Speaker 2: Spears talks to followers more than her family or friends.
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  Speaker 2: Ever since the conservativeship ended, Spears has used social media
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  Speaker 2: and in some ways as a substitute for in person support.
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  Speaker 1: Straight out to Dave Matt Crime Stories investigative reporter Dave
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  Speaker 1: Max sadly you and I have investigated and covered. I
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  Speaker 1: can't even count the number of cases where when someone
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  Speaker 1: goes radio silent on social it's never a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, very often that starts a criminal timeline when
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  Speaker 1: someone typically a woman, sometimes a man. I mean, we've
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  Speaker 1: covered them, people that got lost driving and ended up dead,
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  Speaker 1: people that have been murdered, people that have been kidnapped.
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  Speaker 1: We often start the timeline when they go silent on
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  Speaker 1: social media. No wonder everybody's worried sick about Britney Spears.
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  Speaker 6: You're exactly right, Nancy. It's amazing how many times will
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  Speaker 6: we see that abrupt change of what is normally expected.
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  Speaker 6: And in this particular case, Nancy, it was even more
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  Speaker 6: severe because as the book was getting pushed, you know,
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  Speaker 6: leaking different parts of it, she was responding, and she
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  Speaker 6: was responding aggressively and defending herself on hip multiple times
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  Speaker 6: a day, and it was like she's still defending, defending,
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  Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, it's over. And that's
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  Speaker 6: what really got people thinking that maybe she had been
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  Speaker 6: pushed as far as she could take. The rubber band
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  Speaker 6: was stretched as far as it could possibly go, and
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  Speaker 6: it snapped because there was no forewarning. There was no hey,
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to take a break for a couple of days.
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  Speaker 6: There was nothing. And as we mentioned, since this is
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  Speaker 6: her major form of communication with fans that are with
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  Speaker 6: family and friends as well as fans, this was not
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  Speaker 6: just an abrupt stop. It was Holy mackerel, Where is Brittany.
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  Speaker 6: We got to see her to see what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: So Britney Spears vanishes seemingly vanishes. This is after the
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  Speaker 1: restaurant incident where she was apparently drinking again and unsteady
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  Speaker 1: on her feet as she was being led out, gets
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  Speaker 1: in her car and takes off, veering all over the road.
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  Speaker 1: And of course after this incident, all the haters came out,
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  Speaker 1: many of them supporting her leech of a husband, Kevin Federline.
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  Speaker 7: Listen, do you know that you don't have to like
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  Speaker 7: Kevin Fetterline to acknowledge that what he's saying is true?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, like you can hate the guy and think
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  Speaker 7: that he's a lazy, unemployed leech of a human being.
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  Speaker 7: Is he out of child support and needs money? Maybe
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  Speaker 7: did his kids come to him concerned about their mother's health.
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  Speaker 7: It's just time to wake up to reality people.
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  Speaker 1: You know that is from Awe shum on TikTok see
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  Speaker 1: forgetting about the millions of dollars federal Line is going
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  Speaker 1: to make from his tail all book. How's that helping
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  Speaker 1: his children to drag their mother through the mud just
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  Speaker 1: to make money. Coincidentally, when his child support stops and
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  Speaker 1: it's not just awesome on TikTok, there are more people
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  Speaker 1: piling on.
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  Speaker 8: But he raised those kids like we all can agree
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  Speaker 8: that she did not have the mental capacity to raise
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  Speaker 8: those kids in like a healthy, happy environment, and he
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  Speaker 8: managed to do that. So I don't understand why there's
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  Speaker 8: so much hate in vitriol towards him.
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  Speaker 4: And he got all this money in child support what, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he should have he had custody of the kids.
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  Speaker 1: Really, Ericalynne on TikTok, he did what any father should do,
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  Speaker 1: what any parents should do, raise his children. So why
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  Speaker 1: do people hate him? Because he's a bloodsucking leech. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I mean straight out to Elena Shiraza, joining US
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  Speaker 1: senior political reporter dailymail dot Com. Elena, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: being with us. Elena. In my world, you have to
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  Speaker 1: look at timing. Only when his child support ended, he
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  Speaker 1: was making between forty and eighty thousand dollars a month
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  Speaker 1: off just sucking the money out of Britney spears. Did
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  Speaker 1: he come out with his tael All book and now
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  Speaker 1: everybody's online piling on supporting him in anti Britney.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean the timing you always say, nanti timing timing, timing.
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  Speaker 9: Now all of a sudden, the child's of poor payments
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  Speaker 9: have ended and kaifad is coming out with this book.
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  Speaker 9: You thought you knew. To be fair, he did have
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  Speaker 9: an NDA against him, but he had a lot of
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  Speaker 9: time right to come out and say Britney Spears was
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  Speaker 9: not a good mother. You know, in his memoir he
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  Speaker 9: talks about certain things that Britney Spears did. He said
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  Speaker 9: that she would call when she was with Paris Hilton
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  Speaker 9: and Lindsay Lohan drunk. He said that she bleached the
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  Speaker 9: kid's hair and they came back with burns, that she
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  Speaker 9: was watching them in their sleep.
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  Speaker 10: You know.
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  Speaker 9: He goes on to talk about a lot of different things.
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  Speaker 9: You know, she he even said that when she was
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  Speaker 9: doing drugs, so on and so forth. But she can't
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  Speaker 9: help but think this man is going to get a
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  Speaker 9: lot of money from this. And right now it's kind
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  Speaker 9: of like the Johnny Depp Amberhard situation where it's like
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  Speaker 9: suddenly people are switching over to the other side, and
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  Speaker 9: it's like, you know, you have to think about both
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  Speaker 9: sides to every story. Where are all of the free
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  Speaker 9: Britney movement fans right now? A lot of people coming
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  Speaker 9: out and supporting him. And it's certainly interesting to see.
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  Speaker 1: Fetterline, feder Line, Feeder Line, Britney disappears and all anyone's
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  Speaker 1: talking about is Kevin Feterline. He certainly has not been
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  Speaker 1: the only pig at the trough.
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  Speaker 5: Rob Shehoter he started with Justin Timberlake when she was
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  Speaker 5: a really young teenager in the music business. They were
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  Speaker 5: coming up in the business together. He certainly sold a
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  Speaker 5: lot of records. His biggest solo hit, Primeer River, was
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  Speaker 5: about Britney. So he started with Justin and then the
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  Speaker 5: list went on and on. Let me give you some names.
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  Speaker 5: Wade Robson remember him, he was choreographer.
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  Speaker 4: Now hooked up with me?
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  Speaker 1: He went on afterwards, way, Robin hold On, what I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to have to do a flow chart and not
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  Speaker 1: in a good way.
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  Speaker 5: Wade who Wade Robson, R O B S O.
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  Speaker 1: M Roberson. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: He went on to accuse Michael Jackson of molesting him.
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  Speaker 5: So he's quite a character. Fred Durst, remember Fred Durst
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  Speaker 5: from Limp Biscuit. There was a while he was with
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  Speaker 5: Jared Lito, another creepy guy in Hollywood who has been
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  Speaker 5: with Britney Spears, Colin Farrell. Remember when she dated Colin
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  Speaker 5: Farrell for a really short.
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  Speaker 1: A minute, Wait a minute, shooter, I did not ask
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  Speaker 1: you Britney's dating history, to put it nicely, I'm asking
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  Speaker 1: you about men that suck to dry and used up
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  Speaker 1: all of her fame and money. What was the last
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  Speaker 1: one you said?
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  Speaker 5: I think he did Colin Farrell less. But let me
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  Speaker 5: just say, Nancay, all these guys dating Farrel.
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  Speaker 1: Does not need her money or fame. Did you just
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  Speaker 1: throw him in that part to Steve for Pete's sake?
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  Speaker 1: You're the pr guru. Makes sense? Man?
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  Speaker 5: None of these people looked after Britney spears. Part of
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  Speaker 5: the reason you were in a relationship with someone is
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  Speaker 5: to be kind to them, to love them, to inspire them.
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  Speaker 5: Brittany has gone from bad guy to bad guy to
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  Speaker 5: bad Brian, let me tell you another one that I
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  Speaker 5: think you'll agree with. Jason Alexander. That's the first guy
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  Speaker 5: that she married. Remember in Vegas, it was twenty four hours.
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  Speaker 5: Her team rushed out.
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  Speaker 4: It was an all pretty fast.
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  Speaker 1: Do you not believe in love? He apparently loved her
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  Speaker 1: for at least twenty four hours? Okay, go ahead with.
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  Speaker 5: Twenty four hours a childhood friend, so maybe on this
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  Speaker 5: list he might be the one that actually did. Who
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  Speaker 5: else is on the list too? I remember Adam Galiba,
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  Speaker 5: he was a photographer that took features Galibe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do remember that name. British guy about him.
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  Speaker 5: When she shaved her head and then he moved in
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  Speaker 5: with her during that really difficult time when she left
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  Speaker 5: her children. Jason Tarwick is an interesting name. Jason was
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  Speaker 5: her agent who went on today.
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  Speaker 1: Remember he actually had a job, didn't he He.
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  Speaker 5: Did have a job, but his job was making money
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  Speaker 5: from her. He was her agent. So people are saying
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  Speaker 5: that's a little dubious too. Also, to let's see how
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  Speaker 5: health we have on the lift. Sam As Gary the
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  Speaker 5: gentleman she married sam As Gary.
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  Speaker 1: I would not call him a gentleman. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where you Brits think a gentleman is, but it ain't him.
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  Speaker 5: And so this is a long list of people maybe
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  Speaker 5: not gentlemen. Nancy, I'll take your point, people who have
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  Speaker 5: been around Britney Spears haven't necessarily What about the last husband?
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  Speaker 1: What about the last husband?
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  Speaker 5: Sam As Gary is his name. He was the fitness
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  Speaker 5: model who was with her for a couple of years.
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  Speaker 5: They had a very odd, odd wedding where apparently Britney's
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  Speaker 5: friends turned up Madonna, Selena Gomes, Paris Hilton. My reporting
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  Speaker 5: has revealed that none of these people are in her
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  Speaker 5: life anymore. She's clearly crying out for help. Where are
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  Speaker 5: those famous friends? Where are the friends that turned up
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  Speaker 5: for the wedding for the good times? They're not there
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  Speaker 5: for the.
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  Speaker 1: Bad I would say, out of the entire bunch, all
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  Speaker 1: of them except I disagree with you about Colin Ferrell
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  Speaker 1: basically such to a dry But I think the tick
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  Speaker 1: that has gorged himself the most would be this guy.
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  Speaker 10: She saw one of my sons one day this year
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  Speaker 10: and he decided not to go back over there because
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  Speaker 10: of what he saw. The other one, Jaden, who's my
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  Speaker 10: younger son, is nineteen. Now, he's been over there quite
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  Speaker 10: a few times over the past year and he stopped
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  Speaker 10: seeing her in the last few months because of the situation.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, the thing that they've seen are shocking, right,
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  Speaker 10: so shocking that one of my sons came to me
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  Speaker 10: and called me and was like, I don't know what
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  Speaker 10: to do. I'm afraid mom is going to die.
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  Speaker 11: I'm always held to the s.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're going to catch hgl for what I know
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: you are about to say. But as you put in
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: your article quote, it's time to admit the truth about
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: this public menace. Now, how long can we blame bad men? Look?
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I have blamed Kevin Federline for so long. I blame
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the first husband for taking advantage of her. I blame
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the new husband. As you said, could not be get
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: a job as an extra in Sharknado? Is that true?
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: The model he could not get a job as an
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: extra in Sharknado? Or did you make that up? Did
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: you take a poetic license?
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: I did? I think I said Sharknado fifteen.
• 19:33
  Speaker 11: Even that far into the future, I don't think Sam
• 19:35
  Speaker 11: is going to be able to land a role there.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: But it's not just about the men.
• 19:42
  Speaker 11: It's the position that unfortunately I know obviously and this
• 19:48
  Speaker 11: has been documented, this has been admitted. She's dealing with
• 19:54
  Speaker 11: a degree of mental illness here, and I understand that,
• 19:56
  Speaker 11: but that is not an explanation or an excuse for everything.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: She's forty three years old, she is a mom.
• 20:05
  Speaker 11: But still, you know, she's putting herself in these situations
• 20:10
  Speaker 11: over and over and over again. And it's one thing
• 20:14
  Speaker 11: if there are predatory men who are taking advantage of her,
• 20:18
  Speaker 11: but you know, this is not an innocent doe who's
• 20:21
  Speaker 11: just wandered out of the wilderness. This is a woman
• 20:24
  Speaker 11: who has been famous for almost thirty years now, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 11: at some point she has to if she has fought
• 20:33
  Speaker 11: so hard for her agency, she has to lead with
• 20:36
  Speaker 11: that and she has to be the one making better decisions.
• 20:40
  Speaker 11: And part of that is getting a better care team
• 20:44
  Speaker 11: in position to play a little bit of defense for
• 20:47
  Speaker 11: because she's not doing it on her own. And all
• 20:50
  Speaker 11: you have to do is look into her eyes and
• 20:52
  Speaker 11: you know that she is unwell. You know, this is
• 20:55
  Speaker 11: a forty three year old woman who has pleaded to
• 20:59
  Speaker 11: have a relationship with her sons, her sons have said publicly,
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: you know, we can't be with her mom when she's
• 21:05
  Speaker 11: dancing around naked with knives with a bunch of dog
• 21:08
  Speaker 11: poop in the background. They want to help her, but
• 21:12
  Speaker 11: they're not going to appease her. They're not going to
• 21:14
  Speaker 11: go down a road of codependency. And unfortunately, something needs
• 21:20
  Speaker 11: to be done before she gets hurt or especially in
• 21:24
  Speaker 11: one of the latest escapades, she hurts someone else because
• 21:27
  Speaker 11: she was not in a good frame of mind when
• 21:29
  Speaker 11: she left that restaurant.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: After a half hour.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. As you were talking, our
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: control room and all of its wisdom kept showing one
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: clip after the other of her dancing around and revealing
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: scampy outfits. You know, they never show her in her
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: glory when she's on the stay, performing or shelling out
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: to all the people she owes money to. I think
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: part of it is people feel guilty because of the
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: voyeuristic nature, the prurient nature of even looking at what
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: she puts on insta and I think we incorporate that
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: and try not to judge her. But that said, I
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: gotta draw the line. I must draw the line as
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: a crime victim. I know how it feels. I know
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: how it feels for your life to change just like
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: that because of somebody else's crime. And it's never the same.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I don't care what you hear about closure and moving on.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: That's total BS. There's never closure. You figure out how
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: to live, but that's what it is. And if you
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: could stop showing her and her mid driftop and underwear
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: control room and show me that video of her veering
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: over the double yellow line, that's my problem. That is
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: my problem now. I screamed, get out of the conservatorship,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: but this has got to stop now before somebody is up.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Dad Kennedy.
• 23:12
  Speaker 11: Yeah, And that's a problem because if she's in and
• 23:15
  Speaker 11: I don't know if she was ane redd, I have
• 23:18
  Speaker 11: no idea what was going on before, during, or after that.
• 23:21
  Speaker 11: But I know that if I were in that frame
• 23:23
  Speaker 11: of mind, I would not drive because I would not
• 23:26
  Speaker 11: put up my life, my reputation, and certainly.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: The lives of others at risk.
• 23:31
  Speaker 11: Because as she's swerving around, you know, driving erradically, speeding,
• 23:35
  Speaker 11: slowing down, gesticulating, wildly, doing random uturns in the middle
• 23:40
  Speaker 11: of the street, she could have hit a busload of
• 23:42
  Speaker 11: kids coming back from a sporting event, or you know,
• 23:46
  Speaker 11: a van ful of seniors out for a night at the.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Theater and she at some point something tragic is going
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: to happen.
• 23:56
  Speaker 11: And is it really appropriate for us to look back
• 24:00
  Speaker 11: and say, oh, we should have done something differently, because
• 24:03
  Speaker 11: obviously the conservatorship was too harsh and too restrictive.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: But you know there was no middle ground, there was
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: no other option.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: You know another thing you mentioned in your article, which
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: is in the Dailymail title I have no sympathy for
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Britney Spears. What if her latest stunt had killed a kid.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: It's time to admit the truth about this public menace Kennedy.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: And before you start firing off angry Insta and X
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: and Facebook blah blah blah at Kennedy, think about it.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: She Kennedy supported the end of the conservatorship, as did I.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: It was draconian, it was too harsh, she was being
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: bugged and told her she could be with it was crazy.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: But now it seems as if the pendulum has gone
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: too far the other way. In your article, you compare
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: your words the psycho Mary Poppins moment when she attacked
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: paparazzi and do you blame her really with the umbrella
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: and the twisted ankle from doing leaps inside the Chateau Marmont.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: You compare those incidents to the current driving fiasco, the
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: dangerous driving, and you say, this is much worse for
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: those that are not familiar with the Mary Poppins moment
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: or the Chateau Marmont twist. Could you explain, yes.
• 25:28
  Speaker 11: So in two thousand and seven, she was in a
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: custody battle with her estrange husband, Kevin Feeder Lyin, and
• 25:35
  Speaker 11: you know, she had two young kids. That's when she
• 25:39
  Speaker 11: really had a very public mental breakdown and she was
• 25:42
  Speaker 11: being followed and hounded by paparazzi, and so she took
• 25:46
  Speaker 11: an umbrella out of her car, and you know, like
• 25:49
  Speaker 11: Mary Poppins just started to kind of fighting back, and
• 25:55
  Speaker 11: people couldn't get enough of it. And it was like
• 25:59
  Speaker 11: a carrect where Lookie Lou's were slowing down to take
• 26:03
  Speaker 11: in the potential carnage of her life. It was like
• 26:06
  Speaker 11: the OJ chase that went on for years instead of hours.
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: And you know, that was one thing, but this now
• 26:16
  Speaker 11: where she is going to take away if we fought
• 26:20
  Speaker 11: for her freedom to advocate getting out of this restrictive conservatorship.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: She is going to take away other people's freedom in
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: the form of.
• 26:29
  Speaker 11: Their lives if she's not careful, and you can't have
• 26:34
  Speaker 11: it both ways. It's not like leave her alone. You
• 26:38
  Speaker 11: guys are so mean to Brittany, while at the same time,
• 26:42
  Speaker 11: leaving her alone leaves her to you know, potentially cause
• 26:47
  Speaker 11: tragedy in her life for someone else's and I don't.
• 26:50
  Speaker 11: I would like to see her heal. I would like
• 26:52
  Speaker 11: to see her back on stage of her own volition.
• 26:55
  Speaker 11: I would like to see her recording music, but she
• 26:58
  Speaker 11: has to stabilize. She's she's clearly in a very, very
• 27:01
  Speaker 11: unstable place. And as a fan of her music, and
• 27:05
  Speaker 11: I agree that she has reached icon status because of
• 27:10
  Speaker 11: her talent and because there's something about her vulnerability and
• 27:14
  Speaker 11: her life that is.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Like Marilyn Monroe. But she doesn't have to be frozen
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: in cultural amber because she dies young like she still
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: has a lot of life and thriving to do.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: But not in question for you, Kennedy, and I know
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: that you're not a shrink, although maybe you should consider that.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: But you make a really interesting comparison in this Daily
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Mail article comparing justin Timulate getting a dui, and he
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: is eviscerated wrongly or rightly compared to Brittany, very different treatments.
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: Yeah, and I think he took a big reputational hit
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: after she revealed some the details of their relationship and
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: her memoir, but that that took his career down several
• 28:08
  Speaker 11: wrongs on the ladder that he has been ascending for
• 28:10
  Speaker 11: decades as well. And so if justin Timberlake is you know,
• 28:16
  Speaker 11: as you say, a viscerated for driving impaired, why is
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: she given a shield?
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Why is she.
• 28:24
  Speaker 11: Given a pass by her fans when you know we're
• 28:28
  Speaker 11: not in the middle of a conservatorship, We're at a
• 28:30
  Speaker 11: different time, and you have to acknowledge that you have
• 28:32
  Speaker 11: to acknowledge that these are a different set of circumstances.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: That she is launching irresponsibly.
• 28:39
  Speaker 11: So call her out for the irresponsibility because you know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 11: if you don't have some stop guards, what will she
• 28:47
  Speaker 11: do next?
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah? And I wonder who's who is going to be
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: hurt other than her next. I got a question, and
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I've seen it so many times in court where I
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: feel that women have been totally taken advantage of by men,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: just in the worst ways. And you point out a
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: series of guys who are basically leech is sucking the
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: blood and the money out of Britney Spears. But yet
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: she keeps going back to the same type of guy.
• 29:23
  Speaker 11: We all know someone like that in our lives, Like
• 29:25
  Speaker 11: we all know the friend who dates the unavailable men,
• 29:29
  Speaker 11: dates the bad boys, and you know we're the ones
• 29:33
  Speaker 11: who end up consoling them. But at some point, if
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: there's a pattern in your life and the same thing
• 29:39
  Speaker 11: is happening over and over again and you are the
• 29:42
  Speaker 11: common factor there, you have to take responsibility for that
• 29:46
  Speaker 11: aspect of it. And you know, unfortunately she's got tons
• 29:49
  Speaker 11: of millions of dollars that she's blowing through. And what
• 29:53
  Speaker 11: happens when she's broke? You know, are we going to stars?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Have you ever read let's say, the Daily Mail you
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: guys love to show, and of course I read it.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I never don't read it where some famous person is
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: wandering around LA with a shopping cart full of stuff
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: and you think, what the hey happened to all that money?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: We are told shockingly that Britney Spears has run through
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: a sixty million dollar fortune. What the hay happened?
• 30:29
  Speaker 11: Yeah?
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: I mean to us, that's a lot of money.
• 30:31
  Speaker 11: And you know, part of the onus was on her
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: dad for you know, spending like a drunken tailor when
• 30:37
  Speaker 11: she was under a conservatorship. But you know now that
• 30:41
  Speaker 11: she really doesn't have the same revenue sources. She got
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: a good chunk of money for her memoir and a
• 30:46
  Speaker 11: nice bonus of that from that that she has reportedly
• 30:49
  Speaker 11: already run through. And you know, she goes on these trips.
• 30:53
  Speaker 11: It's it's her money. She can spend it. But at
• 30:55
  Speaker 11: some point, look at Justin Bieber, like, you know, he
• 31:00
  Speaker 11: he's lucky. He has a sugar mama, He has a
• 31:01
  Speaker 11: wife who's now worth a billion dollars, and he he
• 31:05
  Speaker 11: released some music this year. But if you're an artist,
• 31:09
  Speaker 11: releasing music doesn't make you money. Unless you're touring, you're
• 31:12
  Speaker 11: really not going to capitalize on your catalog. And I
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: don't know if she's capable of the physical and emotional
• 31:20
  Speaker 11: rigors of a tour or a residency. I know her fans,
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: they are legion and they are devoted. They would love
• 31:27
  Speaker 11: to see her. But if if she plans on maintaining
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: the money that she's got, she's gotta she's gotta slow down.
• 31:36
  Speaker 11: It's like anybody but Kennedy.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: We're showing right now. I don't know if you can
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: see your monitor the incident at the Ritzy La Suburb restaurant,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: and you just had to describe her shorts as saggy
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: die person. Did you really have to go there, Kennedy
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: at all?
• 31:58
  Speaker 11: I write what I see Nancy, and sometimes as a writer,
• 32:01
  Speaker 11: you have to be descriptive. And I looked at the
• 32:04
  Speaker 11: shorts and I was like, whoa, hey, depends. I couldn't
• 32:09
  Speaker 11: pull anything out of the clean basket, had to fish
• 32:13
  Speaker 11: around in the hamper for.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Those I would like to laugh. But when I keep
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: looking at that veering over the double yellow video, I
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: think I've probably just seen too much Kennedy crime stories
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. Because we're all standing by, we want
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: something to happen. We're the ones screaming get rid of
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: the conservatorship. Now she's out of the conservatorship and it's
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: all going straight to h double L. My question now
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: is whether charges are going to be brought for the
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: reckless driving. It's all on video, and I guess you
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: noticed the paparazzi was recording it didn't call nine one one,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: didn't try to stop her just recorded it probably made
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of money off of it. Kennedy.
• 33:05
  Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, And there were not police officers there, so
• 33:11
  Speaker 11: they really can't charge her. So you know, all people
• 33:15
  Speaker 11: can do is if you see her driving radically again,
• 33:18
  Speaker 11: you have to call law enforce and that's that's the
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: bottom line.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: And she if she.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Is Trinity Kennedy, my sweet dear naive Lisa Kennedy. Many
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: a case has been proven without a cop being a witness,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: where there's a will for years away trust it and
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: things like that. Yeah, you think murders, right, Chadlo stations
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: happen out on the street usually.
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: No, I don't know, man, I think I would be
• 33:50
  Speaker 11: like if I were her lawyer, I would I would
• 33:54
  Speaker 11: pull the Princess Diana defense and be like, she her
• 33:59
  Speaker 11: life was threatened by these poparazzi. You can't see from
• 34:02
  Speaker 11: that vantage point she was trying to escape from them.
• 34:06
  Speaker 11: And you know, unfortunately LA jury's tend to favor celebrities.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: All that is true, But I'm wondering if a court
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: appearance for the dangerous driving, which could easily have calls
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: to head on collision, because when you follow that video
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: onto the end, right after she goes over the yellow line,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the double line and comes back. A car comes just
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: right after that. Up right there can look.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: At that corner. There are no street lights.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Nothing, and here comes the car. You know, thirty seconds
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: would have made such a huge difference, and not in
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: a good way. Well, keep your defense attorney thoughts to yourself.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Let's not give anyone any ideas what can be done
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: to help Brittany and help the public. Kennedy, I'm waiting
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: for your next article. I'm a big fan. Thank you
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: for joining us tonight. Bye, thank you. But what happened
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: to Britney? Why did she vanished? Straight back out to
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: special guest Elena Shirazi joining a senior political reporter dailymail
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: dot com. Elena, Brittany made a return? What happened?
• 35:18
  Speaker 9: She disappeared for a few days, and then she made
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: a couple posts separated. We know with Britney sometimes she'll
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: make a couple posts on the same day, sort of
• 35:28
  Speaker 9: spread out. She rejoins with a cryptic message she was
• 35:32
  Speaker 9: wearing racy lingerie. She mentioned boundaries in her post, maybe
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: an ode to her ex Kfed's new book. She also
• 35:41
  Speaker 9: mentioned the devil. She said she tries to live within
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: her means, which is another topic we covered earlier. Nancy
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: she mentioned the devil is in the details, but we
• 35:51
  Speaker 9: can get to that later. So she made a reappearance,
• 35:55
  Speaker 9: right and you know, I feel like Britney Spears' Instagram
• 35:58
  Speaker 9: is kind of what you do when you can sleep
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: at midnight and you're in your bed scrolling trying to
• 36:02
  Speaker 9: make sense of the captions and think that you might
• 36:05
  Speaker 9: be onto something. Some of it makes sense, some of
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: it doesn't. But certainly, you know, her song may have
• 36:12
  Speaker 9: been a fulfilling, a self fulfilling prophecy.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: My loneliness is killing me.
• 36:16
  Speaker 9: It feels like even deactivating her Instagram is sort of
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: like a sense of control that she has that she
• 36:22
  Speaker 9: can deactivate it, she can come back when she wants to. Unfortunately,
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: the comments have been turned off, where I know a
• 36:28
  Speaker 9: lot of us have been going to the comments to
• 36:30
  Speaker 9: sort of piece the puzzle together. But certainly she did
• 36:34
  Speaker 9: make a re appearance. She talked about how she was
• 36:36
  Speaker 9: trapped in Mexico. She made another post about that where
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: she was speaking with a British accent and sort of
• 36:44
  Speaker 9: you know, dancing around in different outfits. So she's continuing
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: the same Brittany. There was a pause, which a lot
• 36:51
  Speaker 9: of fans were concerned about.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: But she's back, and a.
• 36:56
  Speaker 9: Lot of the reasons that people say she disappeared was,
• 36:58
  Speaker 9: of course because she was so hurt by that book
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: from her ex and a lot of the things that
• 37:03
  Speaker 9: were in it that were probably very difficult for her
• 37:07
  Speaker 9: to read.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Rob, She's joining me, author of a brand new novel
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: that just hit Amazon. It started with a whisper, Rob,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: how long are we going to excuse her behavior? If
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: she wants to live that way, that's her decision. She's
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: no longer under conservatorship. But when you are driving dangerously
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: and I believe criminal charges could be proven based on
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: that paparazzi video, I really do. Will they do it?
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: It's la they love celebrities? Probably not, but could it
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: be done? Yeah? So how long will she be given
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: a pass? She's the poor little rich girl.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: I feel, Nanci, she's going to be given a pass
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: until she harms somebody very seriously. And I think people
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: around Brittany are not only worried about her harming herself,
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: which is a real concern, but also to damage that
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: she can do to others. So I agree with you
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: We've covered this a long time. Celebrities in LA really
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: get away with a lot, and anywhere else this wouldn't
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: have been tolerated, something would have been done. But because
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: she's Britney Spears, because she's in LA. Because thankfully, up
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: to now Nancy, nobody has been really hurt. I think
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: she's going to keep getting your way with it.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Rob Shooter, let me see him. Do you realize that,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: according to reports, Britney Spears has plowed through I'm reading,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm just pulling this out of thin air, sixty
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: one million dollars with nothing to show for it but
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: a bunch of fast food receipts, fifty grand, fifty grand
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: on a single private jet, Mexican villas to the tune
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: of twenty thousand dollars a night, forty thousand dollars on
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: pay care, one hundred thousand dollars on massages, and this
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: is conservative, five hundred dollars manicures. All that money gone,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: and she is not going back to work any time soon.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: She's apparently blown through everything she made on her memoir.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Where is the money? Is she going to be one
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  Speaker 1: of those people pushing a cart around La full of
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  Speaker 1: their stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Potentially, it's that serious. She has blown through a million.
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  Speaker 5: She's arguably one of the most successful pop stars of
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  Speaker 5: all time. She should be worth hundreds of millions of
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  Speaker 5: dollars when you look at how much money she's made
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  Speaker 5: over her still quite short lifetime. She's still in her forties.
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  Speaker 5: She's made billions from concerts to record sales, to fragrances
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  Speaker 5: to merchandise. None of that money appears to be with Brittany,
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  Speaker 5: and I think that is something that we need to
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  Speaker 5: investigate too. Where is Britney's money? Yes, she's wasted a lot,
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  Speaker 5: but also too, I think there's something a little darker there.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: And the money that she earned often went to other people.
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  Speaker 1: What about it? Doctor Bethany a spending like a drunken salor.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that she's a shopaholic. I don't know that,
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  Speaker 1: but the expenditures aren't bizarre and she is not working
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  Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars in a year down the crapper.
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  Speaker 3: Okay again, remember I don't know her. I have not
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  Speaker 3: evaluated her, but if she was my patient, I would
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  Speaker 3: wonder about bipolar illness or stimulant abuse. And the reason
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  Speaker 3: I would wonder that is that both cause compulsive impulsive spending.
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  Speaker 4: That is at the heart of it.
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  Speaker 3: And according to one report, when she was in Mexico,
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  Speaker 3: she was up all night online shopping. And what's bizarre
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  Speaker 3: Nancy is those restaurants that we see her in, I'm
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  Speaker 3: familiar with them. They are very inexpensive restaurants. She eats
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  Speaker 3: fast food, she's not out fine dining. Her clothing looks
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  Speaker 3: very inexpensive, so she's not spending it on food and clothing.
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  Speaker 3: I don't see any great jewelry. Okay, she has a
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  Speaker 3: nice car she drives. My celebrity patients and my practice
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  Speaker 3: are taking advantage of every single day. So if they're
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  Speaker 3: not spending the money themselves, somebody else is going to
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  Speaker 3: do it for them. And when you are raised in
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: her kind of environment by a stage mom, you are
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  Speaker 3: socialized to believe that you have to give everything to
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  Speaker 3: everybody else around you, and it creates a situation where
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: these celebrities are sitting ducks.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Wardlaw is joining US private investigator Chief Operations Officer
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Nathan's investigations. Ashley, there is a move afoot to instigate
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  Speaker 1: criminal charges against Britney Spears for the driving we observe
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  Speaker 1: in the video if you were building that case, and
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  Speaker 1: I really doubt that LAPD is going to pursue this
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  Speaker 1: because she's a celebrity. If it were you or me,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: they'd probably be all over it. But Ashley, how would
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: you begin to prove that case? I guess starting at
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the restaurant itself.
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  Speaker 12: Well, Nancy, in the situation like this, it's not necessarily
• 42:19
  Speaker 12: about collecting new evidence the way people might imagine. It's
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  Speaker 12: about verifying facts, and a private investigator's job would be
• 42:29
  Speaker 12: to confirm what's real versus what's the rumored, especially when
• 42:34
  Speaker 12: there's so much conflicting information in the media. So for example,
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  Speaker 12: of course we all see the video, Okay, we see
• 42:40
  Speaker 12: that it exists. But a good move for a PI
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  Speaker 12: would be to go and see if there's a pattern
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  Speaker 12: of this behavior. So let's see if we can get
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  Speaker 12: video from other places that she's visited, and of course,
• 42:52
  Speaker 12: you know, see what her behavior is in those videos.
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  Speaker 12: Of course, it would be a good move also to
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  Speaker 12: do surveillance on her now for a couple months to
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  Speaker 12: see what her behavior looks like. And of course this
• 43:04
  Speaker 12: will be done in a discreet manner, Okay, it wouldn't
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  Speaker 12: be anything that she's noticing, you know, she's being.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Watched or followed.
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  Speaker 12: Something important to note is that of PIS, we don't
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  Speaker 12: necessarily make a diagnosi or judgments about people's mental health,
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  Speaker 12: but we can definitely provide documentation that would help attorneys
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  Speaker 12: or family members, or especially the courts just kind of
• 43:30
  Speaker 12: come to a clearer picture of what's going on to.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth J McInturff joining US high profile lawyer who specializes
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: in guardianship issues. She's a partner at Sales or Gervich.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth putting together a case like this, you typically have
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: to have a breathalyzer of what alcohol tests to prove DUI,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: but that wouldn't necessarily be the case here. It's caught
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  Speaker 1: on video. I believe the nav system, the navigation system
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: in that vehicle would come into play roadside surveillance to
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  Speaker 1: show she was in fact the only one in the
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  Speaker 1: car and she was controlling the car the entire time,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: and eye witnesses, specifically the person that led her by
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  Speaker 1: the hand out of the restaurant and poured her into
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: the car. It can be proven, but will it, Elizabeth?
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  Speaker 13: Certainly, I think they can make a case for reckless driving.
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  Speaker 13: I don't know that they can make a case for
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  Speaker 13: driving under the influence, given that, as you stated, there's
• 44:30
  Speaker 13: no breathalyzer, no roadsides or vriety test. But again, reckless
• 44:34
  Speaker 13: driving while could be a symptom showing that a guardianship
• 44:39
  Speaker 13: is necessary, it doesn't mean that a guardianship is required.
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  Speaker 13: So that's something we have to keep in mind when
• 44:44
  Speaker 13: we're talking about what is essentially bad behaviors.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Here to Elena Shirazi joining us from Daily Mail, Alena,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: is that what it will take for Brittany to get
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  Speaker 1: her life back together again to show up in court
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  Speaker 1: on dangerous driving charges? It could?
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  Speaker 9: I mean, she certainly needs a kind of shock, right.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, she lobbied and advocated for her freedom, along
• 45:11
  Speaker 9: with really the rest of the world who wanted her
• 45:14
  Speaker 9: to have it. But that comes, of course at the
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: cost of responsibility, of being a functional adult, of realizing
• 45:20
  Speaker 9: that there are consequences for your actions, and so she
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: has to realize that when she was able to escape
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: her conservatorship from her father, that means that the liability
• 45:31
  Speaker 9: is now on her, and so does she want that responsibility.
• 45:35
  Speaker 9: I don't know, it doesn't seem like it tonight.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: We remember an American Hero Officer Travis Wallace Helena PD, Arkansas,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: shot in the line of duty after five years serving
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: and protecting. Survived by his only son, now without a dad.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: American Hero Officer Travis Wallace. Nancy Rice signing off her
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  Speaker 1: my Friend