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Eagles vs. Ravens Postgame Show, Week 13 · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Eagles postgame analysis here at the Philadelphia
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  Speaker 1: Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly sports
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  Speaker 1: podcast show in the world, over eleven and a half
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  Speaker 1: years strong. The Philadelphia Eagles, you're in week thirteen of
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  Speaker 1: this twenty twenty four twenty twenty five season, beat the
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. Yes, they beat the Baltimore Ravens down at
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  Speaker 1: M and T Banks Stadium in Baltimore by a score
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  Speaker 1: of twenty four to nineteen. A fantastic game. We learned
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  Speaker 1: a lot about this team. I think we learned a
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  Speaker 1: lot about who they were, the character of this Philadelphia
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  Speaker 1: Eagles team.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna be.
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  Speaker 1: Getting into this game, dissecting it, giving our themes and
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  Speaker 1: then our grades by unit, and also grading the coaching.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Warren. I'm here, my good buddy from the
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  Speaker 1: Honorable Mentioned podcast on YouTube. We got my buddy, the
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  Speaker 1: one and only Matt Rogers. Hey doing, Matt doing well?
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  Speaker 2: You know the hell of a game? Yes, hell of
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  Speaker 2: a game? I really you know.
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  Speaker 3: I texted you before the game, and I was thinking about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, who's gonna step up as far as it
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  Speaker 3: passed rushers.
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  Speaker 2: Zach Bond absolutely showed up.
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  Speaker 3: I know we're going to get into it early, but
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  Speaker 3: right off the top, I mean, and I was, and
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  Speaker 3: I was skeptical. I couldn't believe, you know, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: believe that that Zach Bond was going to be a superstar.
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  Speaker 3: I guess superstar is a bit. But he's playing really
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  Speaker 3: damn well. And not only is he is he you know,
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  Speaker 3: filling in on the run today, stepping up to put
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  Speaker 3: pressure on the quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that guy is just on another level right now.
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  Speaker 1: He is. He's definitely one of the standouts in this game.
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  Speaker 1: But Matt, one of the first themes I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: get into with you, and it was mentioned on the
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  Speaker 1: broadcast toward the end of the game in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's really important for us to get
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  Speaker 1: into it. It's the fact that, yes, this is the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles eighth win in a row, but we learned a
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  Speaker 1: lot about this team, I think because they were not
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  Speaker 1: only on the road, but they're playing the Baltimore Ravens,
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  Speaker 1: a prolific offense, a very good defense, a decent defense,
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  Speaker 1: I should say, but an offense where Lamar Jackson just
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  Speaker 1: at the top of his game over these past few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: And like I said, they said on the broadcast, this
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  Speaker 1: is a team that on this win streak has beat
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  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, the New York Giants, the Bengals, the Jaguars,
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and you think to yourself, Okay, these are
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  Speaker 1: relatively quote easy teams to possibly beat. But then again,
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  Speaker 1: it is the NFL. We've talked about a number of times.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you play to win the game, as Herm
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  Speaker 1: Edwards One's famous he said, and they've been winning games
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  Speaker 1: that they should be winning. However, coming into this game,
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  Speaker 1: I was really concerned because the Baltimore Ravens are a
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  Speaker 1: very good football team, and this Eagles team on the
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  Speaker 1: road was able to show up in a big time way,
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  Speaker 1: especially on defense, proving to the world that they are
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  Speaker 1: the number one defense in the NFL. Going up against
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  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and going up against Derrick Henry as well,
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  Speaker 1: this team matters. Forteners. Yes, don't be fooled, listeners.
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  Speaker 3: By the nineteen that was a twelve that you saw,
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  Speaker 3: and you saw the Ravens trying to pile it on
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  Speaker 3: in garbage time, try to try to make it look
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  Speaker 3: better so they don't.
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  Speaker 2: Get cooked and out.
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  Speaker 3: And I and I got some for for some of
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  Speaker 3: y'all's players throughout the rest of this show. This defense, though,
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  Speaker 3: is for real, for real, it's it's it's it's hard
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  Speaker 3: to believe.
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  Speaker 2: But this is the best I wrote it down.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this is the best linebacker play I've seen,
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  Speaker 3: not just for one guy, but the Eagle linebacking core.
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  Speaker 2: This is the best I've seen in twenty years.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, And I'm getting to the point too where
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  Speaker 1: when we have these very frustrating slow starts another theme
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  Speaker 1: of mine here we got we gotta just be patient
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  Speaker 1: for everything to start kicking in here again, my god,
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  Speaker 1: the slow start, it was absolutely enraging. And what else
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  Speaker 1: was in raging two was the Eagles were penalized six
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  Speaker 1: times in the first quarter. I mean this, This Eagles
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  Speaker 1: team should just pretend that the that the second quarter
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  Speaker 1: is actually like the first quarter. The next time they play.
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  Speaker 1: They should just try. There's a lot of feeling.
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  Speaker 2: I'm out.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot of Floyd.
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  Speaker 3: This team is very Floyd Mayweather, but has the knockout punch. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of feeling out in the early three
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  Speaker 3: four rounds of a fight. You're not gonna see the
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  Speaker 3: Eagles really, you know, take any risks they feel like
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  Speaker 3: that's the deep ball.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, really quick on that point. Do you think that's
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  Speaker 1: why the first drive of the game we saw the
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  Speaker 1: sequences that we did. Saquan gets twelve yards right off
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  Speaker 1: the bat, and then the next three plays go to
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  Speaker 1: Paris Campbell, Will Shipley and Britain Covey like, do you like,
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  Speaker 1: do you think that's what they're trying to feel out?
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  Speaker 1: What the Ravens defense is gonna do?
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  Speaker 2: There? Is that what you think they're They're poking in.
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  Speaker 3: Proden and I'm trying to to try to create, you know, move,
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  Speaker 3: move a Jenga piece here, Oh make the next time
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  Speaker 3: I'll put I'll act like I'm, you know, trying to
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  Speaker 3: wiggle this one loose. But let the other guy pull
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  Speaker 3: that Jenga piece and mess themselves up. I think that
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  Speaker 3: that's what they're kind of trying to do, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that unfortunately for us, in our stress levels, it
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  Speaker 3: has worked out. Kellen and Sirianni get to, hey, this
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  Speaker 3: is our formula. I mean pretty much every week. I
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  Speaker 3: was talking to my wife, I said, basically, you get
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  Speaker 3: a slow start, you get the Eagles going into halftime
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  Speaker 3: way too close. You got the Eagles coming out in
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  Speaker 3: the second half, the defense is locking down, and then
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  Speaker 3: by the time the fourth quarter gets here, Saquan's gonna
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  Speaker 3: hit his head off the goalpost. You're gonna your anxiety
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  Speaker 3: levels will start to crash. Yes, yes, absolutely, you feel
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  Speaker 3: like you're watching your team be the best team in football.
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  Speaker 2: I mean this is the story every week. And now
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  Speaker 2: a theme.
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  Speaker 3: To your point is it's not just against the bad teams,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's it's what the Eagles formula has has created here.
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  Speaker 1: Two road wins too. By the way, playing out in
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  Speaker 1: LA against the Rams wasn't anything to sneeze about either.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's also important to look at, you know,
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  Speaker 1: as you as you're coming into this game, and the
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  Speaker 1: biggest storyline was running back versus running backs, Saquon Barkley
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  Speaker 1: versus Derrick Henry. Saquon Barkley averaging six point two yards
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  Speaker 1: per carry coming into this game, Derek Henry averaging six
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  Speaker 1: yards per carry coming into this game. Saquon Barkley average
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  Speaker 1: four point seven yards in this game per carry, and
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  Speaker 1: Derek Henry average four point three yards per carry. So
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  Speaker 1: you want to talk about two defenses honing in on
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  Speaker 1: these two players throughout the game has the edge, of course,
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, twenty three carries for
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and seven yards, again four point seven yards
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  Speaker 1: per carry, and a touchdown and a low his longest
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  Speaker 1: run being twenty five yards. Derrick Henry nineteen yards. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen carries for eighty two yards and again four point
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  Speaker 1: three yards per carry. I think we know at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day if they were given out the
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  Speaker 1: MVP award after this game here, after week thirteen year,
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  Speaker 1: Matt MVP of this league at this point, Saquon Barkley.
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  Speaker 2: It's gotta be or Josh Allen. I can.
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  Speaker 3: I can if someone says that, I have to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: even if it's they're saying it's I don't believe it's
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  Speaker 3: a quarterback award, but Josh Allen's contributions, I can.
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  Speaker 2: I can hear that. I'm not hearing Lamar Jackson anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I also want to say, Derrick Henry, you're
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  Speaker 3: you're MVP, not only MVP, but Pro Bowl consideration that
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  Speaker 3: man is out there looking slow and old and tired
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  Speaker 3: and out as I was seeing that in the first quarter, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: he was looking slow. I mean he does not possess
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  Speaker 3: Derrick Henry in all respect with Fangio and Zach Bond.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to take I don't want to you know,
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  Speaker 3: kind of you know, temper the praise that I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: give you all. But with all that said, what I
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  Speaker 3: will get into later, Derrick Henry does not possess the
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  Speaker 3: ability anymore to turn any run into a play that's
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  Speaker 3: gonna turn into a touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's fair.
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  Speaker 3: Even if he breaks away, he's gonna break away for
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  Speaker 3: thirty or forty. He he is a slow, old bruiser back.
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  Speaker 2: And that's uh. I think.
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  Speaker 3: I think, I think, not only is this going to
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  Speaker 3: be a tough night for the Ravens if I'm walking
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  Speaker 3: away from this game. Zay Flowers body language horrible, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: at multiple junctures. Yeah, that's there's some frustration there. And Lamar,
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  Speaker 3: they're on a bit of a skid. I mean, it's tough.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 1: They're definitely on a bit of a skid here. You
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  Speaker 1: mentioned Zay Flowers seven targets on the day. He came
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  Speaker 1: down with three receptions for seventy four yards. I mean
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  Speaker 1: big time numbers there, averaging twenty seven or I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: twenty four point seven yards per reception, but again, seven targets.
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  Speaker 1: He came down with three balls. This Eagle secondary came
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  Speaker 1: to play Vic Fangio doing an amazing job with getting
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  Speaker 1: these guys into a position to be able to take
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  Speaker 1: on Zay Flowers. Mark Andrews did have a pretty good game.
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  Speaker 1: He was targeted seven times, came down with six balls
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  Speaker 1: for sixty seven yards and a touchdown. Mark Andrews had
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good game. He was basically the only one
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  Speaker 1: that did. Honestly, and outside of like Lamar Jackson, I
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  Speaker 1: think Lamar Jackson had a pretty good game. I really do.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, a lot of garbage
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  Speaker 1: time passing yards for him. But overall, I mean seventy
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  Speaker 1: nine yards rushing on the day from Lamar, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's not too too shabby. Well, I mean, given the
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  Speaker 1: fact that thirty nine of those yards came in the
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter and there was like fifteen seconds left in
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  Speaker 1: the game, but.
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  Speaker 3: Still there was no chance they were going to score
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  Speaker 3: twelve points in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. It was just a knockdown, drag out type
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  Speaker 1: of game. And I love to see this hard nosed
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  Speaker 1: type of football that was played by both of these teams.
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  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, the Eagles defense
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  Speaker 1: just absolutely so dominant. And this is what you want
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  Speaker 1: heading into the playoffs, Matt. This is the type of
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  Speaker 1: play that you want heading into the playoffs, this dominant
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  Speaker 1: defensive force that wins playoff games.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I'm trying to like think of like
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  Speaker 1: some other themes like because like again, it was such
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  Speaker 1: a defensive style to this game here, the receiving corps
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  Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily one of the most important aspects of this game.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, of course, you had Dallas Goddard with the
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  Speaker 1: one touchdown reception. He was only targeted four times. It
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  Speaker 1: came down with three balls for thirty five yards. In
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  Speaker 1: this game, AJ Brown was targeted six times, came down
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  Speaker 1: with five balls for sixty six yards. It wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts to AJ Brown type of now show that
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  Speaker 1: I thought we might see. But it begs a question
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  Speaker 1: when DeVante Smith is not in this lineup, when he
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  Speaker 1: is not on the field, it seems like the passing
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  Speaker 1: game really does suffer, and that Aj Brown in terms
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  Speaker 1: of his game, ends up suffering a.
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  Speaker 2: Little bit too.
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  Speaker 1: I mean when they only throw the ball to John
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  Speaker 1: Dotson one time and he catches it for seven yards.
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  Speaker 1: But that's it. There's I remember talking. I remember talking
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  Speaker 1: to a few folks before this season started, and I said,
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  Speaker 1: if AJ goes out for an extended period of time
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  Speaker 1: or Davante goes out for an extended period of time,
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  Speaker 1: and we've seen it now, well, I mean Davonte Smith
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  Speaker 1: being out two games already this season. AJ was out
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  Speaker 1: what three games earlier this season, and we saw the
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  Speaker 1: ill effects of this, and it is a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a concern from an offensive standpoint. Than goodness, you have
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  Speaker 1: sa kuon Barkley, but I think not having Davonte Smith
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  Speaker 1: in this lineup here really affects up passing game.
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  Speaker 2: Matt, I agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to tell too much about what I'm
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  Speaker 3: thinking about my grades, but to answer that, I will
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  Speaker 3: say that the Eagles pass blocking I won't say it
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  Speaker 3: it was piss.
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  Speaker 2: Poor today, but it was okay.
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  Speaker 1: It was okay. It wasn't real.
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  Speaker 3: There were opportunities where I saw Jalen loading up as
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  Speaker 3: if he was about to hit somebody who he believed
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  Speaker 3: to be open and just.
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  Speaker 2: Tucked it or took a sack.
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  Speaker 3: The Ravens front, Ravens defensive front really got pressure on
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts today.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, the it is there.
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  Speaker 3: There there is reason for for fear of when like
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  Speaker 3: who is the Eagles number two receiver?
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  Speaker 2: Is it Dallas Goddard? Is it? Is it Johan Dotson?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they just don't seem to really trust Johan Dotson,
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  Speaker 3: so that is worthy of discussion. Absolutely, I would say
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  Speaker 3: that the main culprit was the guards and our center
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  Speaker 3: totally at some points getting their butts will.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, honest, absolutely, We'll get into it during the grades.
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  Speaker 1: I think it may be a lower grade for this
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  Speaker 1: Eagles offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: But it's interesting. This is also one of those games too.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go back over to the want to
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  Speaker 1: go back over the defense here, Matt. Interesting on one
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  Speaker 1: of these games from a stat sheet perspective, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the stat sheet doesn't really look all that impressive defensively.
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  Speaker 1: Three sacks, five tackles for a loss, four passes defended,
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  Speaker 1: and six quarterback hits doesn't really seem to the naked
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  Speaker 1: eye or to the eye rate here, I should say,
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  Speaker 1: like it's that great of a performance.
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  Speaker 2: But they were so dominant, man, they were so dominant.
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  Speaker 1: They were able to disrupt Lamar Jackson in the pocket
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  Speaker 1: so much throughout the game, especially in the second half
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  Speaker 1: where he was thrown it at guy's feet where we
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  Speaker 1: call him here worm burners, you know, the old Donovan McNabb.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So we saw some.
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  Speaker 1: Warm burners, warm burners being thrown by Lamar Jackson and
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  Speaker 1: just the disruption of the pocket, this defensive pass rush,
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  Speaker 1: even not having Brandon Graham, not having Bryce Huff, you know,
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  Speaker 1: not the Bryce Huff did a lot in terms of
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  Speaker 1: defensive pressure leading up to him going on igh R.
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  Speaker 3: He got hot before he got injured. I got it,
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  Speaker 3: I got it.
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  Speaker 2: He had a couple of games, a couple of nice games.
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  Speaker 1: But it just goes to show the stats she does
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  Speaker 1: not always reflect what is happening in the games. So
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to bring that up, buddy, Do you have
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  Speaker 1: any other themes here? Before we end up going to
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  Speaker 1: a break and before we get to our grades, I just.
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  Speaker 3: Want to just point out that somehow the Eagles basically
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  Speaker 3: got the football kept from them for the entirety of
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  Speaker 3: the third quarter. Yeah, and still held the Ravens. What
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  Speaker 3: to we go into the half? What was this score
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  Speaker 3: at the half? It was fourteen to twelve, fourteen to twelve. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they scored, they scored seven points at the end, but
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  Speaker 3: they kept the Ravens got kept getting first down at
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  Speaker 3: the first down. Now, the missfield goals did come into play,
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  Speaker 3: but that happens. The Eagles won a game a couple
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  Speaker 3: weeks ago with the same thing happening, So that happens
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  Speaker 3: in football.
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  Speaker 2: But they're keeping guys out of the end zone. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: that's a big deal. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Ten years team stiff in its back when it needs to,
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  Speaker 3: and this Eagles team is showing us, at least so
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  Speaker 3: far that it can.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of those games, those bizarre games too,
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  Speaker 1: where when you look at total yards, you look at
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  Speaker 1: the team stats, Baltimore three hundred and seventy two total
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  Speaker 1: yards to the Eagles two hundred and fifty two. In
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  Speaker 1: terms of first downs, Baltimore had twenty four to the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles seventeen. Time of possession the Ravens thirty three minutes
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  Speaker 1: and fifty one seconds. I think that's what you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about there in the third quarter, yes to the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: twenty six minutes and nine seconds. Very interesting, the fact
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  Speaker 1: that the Eagles were able to come out on top
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  Speaker 1: of this. And I do wonder too. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna sit here and say this is luck by any
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  Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination, because when you're a player in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, you have to perform to a high level.
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  Speaker 1: But there is a certain Ravens player that has not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily been performing and this season at the highest level
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  Speaker 1: that he has performed at over the years, and that
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  Speaker 1: is Justin Tucker. The fact that Justin Tucker missed two
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  Speaker 1: field goals and an extra point, he missed three total
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  Speaker 1: kicks today, which was a career high for him. If
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  Speaker 1: he does make those kicks, really does keep the Ravens
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  Speaker 1: in the game, to his sense, So you know, you
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  Speaker 1: think to yourself, Wow, special teams really coming into play here.
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  Speaker 1: We're certainly going to get into some special teams talk
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  Speaker 1: maybe with our grades here, but I think we have
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  Speaker 1: to also say that, you know, Justin Tucker missing three
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  Speaker 1: total kicks in this game was that was very helpful.
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  Speaker 3: It was very helpful. But but it's a mental thing
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  Speaker 3: for the listeners. If you're not, you know, that much
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  Speaker 3: into the football, you're just tuning in because.
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  Speaker 2: You like the burr.
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  Speaker 3: You you tangentially like the birds kickers. It's just a
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  Speaker 3: totally mental mental thing. Sometimes it'll just.
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  Speaker 2: Go on you.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: You'll be you'll be sailing along and then you just
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: miss one and then you start over correcting you miss
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: the other way.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: That's what you're seeing.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: You see in Tucker over correcting missing wide left, Mott
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: wide right.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: You know, it's it's tough to watch guys go through
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: it because it's not about ability, right, just totally psychological.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. We saw this with Jake Elliott a few games ago.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Remember he was a He had a little case of
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: the yips. He was missing some field goals. Came back though,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: thank thankfully, he came back. So all right, well, Matt,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I think that's gonna do it for our themes here, right,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: we want to get to the grades in a bit absolutely,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: all right, folks, we're gonna take a quick break when
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: we get back. We're gonna go to each unit on
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: offense and defense, and then the coaches stick with us.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: We are back and again here with our good friend
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers from the honorable mentioned podcast. Check out his
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: podcast on YouTube subscribe there and I listened to him
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts as well. You should subscribe on whatever
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: podcast platform you are on. Let's get into our grades.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Gonna grade the quarterback position boy this week, Jalen Hurts.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was hurting in some ways in this game.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Eleven of nineteen for one hundred and eighteen yards. He
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: averaged six point two yards per attempt, one touchdown, took
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: two sacks. He ended with a rating of ninety three
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: point eight. I am gonna give Jalen Hurts, believe it
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: or not, a C plus this week because I think
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: there were some really rough play from him. The offensive line,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: like you mentioned earlier before we went to break, offensive
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: line didn't necessarily help him out in terms of pass pro. However,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts made some pretty poor decisions in this game,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I think, and I just wasn't necessarily happy with how
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: he played. The defense bailed Jalen Hurts out, I think
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: in this game in a lot of different ways. I'm
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: gonna give him a C plus. What do you give
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: I was going b minus I'm in that same range.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I don't think this today was his best game. I
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: don't think necessarily they needed or wanted to put the
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: game flow didn't work out that they wanted to put
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: this game completely in his hands. But I mean the
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: pass pro was pretty bad. I mean, you had a
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: couple of swing passes get batted away early in the game,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: midway through the game. You know, it was pretty frustrating.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I also always want to keep in context, however, though
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of that the great play from Saquon
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Barkley and a lot of these big first downs that
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: are keeping drives alive, keeping the defense, you know, letting
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: the defense catch its breath so they could play complimentary
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: fo ball and play this top level defense. It's coming
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: because Jalen Hurts is being you know, selling out, you know,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: putting his body at risk.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, making making good.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Reads on on the on the zone read uh, to
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: be able. He's not just running. I mean, Jalen's not
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: just running off tackle. He's running you know, off of
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: right guard, left guard.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Ye.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: So I always want to keep that up. Yeah, I
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: mean it's incredible. I mean we don't see that there's
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: only Josh Allen and and Jalen that I see running
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: through the exac so. But I mean, I I don't
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: think we're really disagreeing that much. Today was not his
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: best game, Thankfully we didn't need it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I think he.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Still has it in him. But yeah, C plus B
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: minus is where I'm going with Jalen all Right.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: The running back room, it was basically just Saquon Barkley.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Will Shipley did have one one carry for four yards.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: However curious it really was.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: It was very very curious, however, on Barkley with twenty
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: three carries again for one hundred and seven yards four
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: point seven yards per carry and a touchdown. I'm giving
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley straight up A this week because we knew
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: coming into this game.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, everybody's honing in on him.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Everybody was honing in on him, and he was able
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: to rip one off for twenty five yards for a
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: touchdown as well in the second half. Just just an
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: amazing athlete and he showed us once again, in my opinion,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: why he is the MVP of this league. I give
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: him an A this week. What do he give Saquon
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Barkley running back?
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: We're getting kind of spoiled here with Saquon being so
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: damn good because if you you know, if you took
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: the name off the back of the jersey and you
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: just said you're running back number twenty six, did this today, Yeah,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: everybody would say it's an a when he comes off
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: of a game where he rushed for fuck for freaking
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: sorry fifty two fifty and so you kind of like, uh,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: but yes, he was excellent and it was a big game.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: You know, he talks a lot about how he's not
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: you know, he's not playing into a lot of the
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: head to head mess ups with Derrek Henry. Does he
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: want to win MVP? No, and we're focused on winning
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: the game. But deep down you know that those narratives,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: in those themes exist. And so he came into this game,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: did what he had to do once again in the
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: fourth quarter, rips off a huge touchdown run. I mean,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: just put a create a highlight reel of just Saquon
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Barkley rushing long rushing touchdowns in the fourth quarter. That's
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: his that's his highlight film for the MVP kids.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: That absolutely is uh an A Given the context of
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: what this game was and what we were expecting coming
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: into this from a defensive standpoint from Baltimore, So a
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: for sure. Let's move over to the receivers here. Look,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: they weren't asked to do too too much in this game,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: but I'll tell you AJ Brown and Dallas Goddard when
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: their number was called, they were picking up first downs
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: when they needed to. I'm gonna give them an a
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: minus this week because they did everything I think that
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: they were asked. I don't know what do you give
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: their receivers. I'll go I'll go with be okay.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: I just gotta see to your point earlier though, Jeff,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I gotta see more from Johan Dotson.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Saw a Paris Campbell lineup. He didn't have any you know, uh,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: you know, bad lineups. But other than that nothing.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: You know what, I'm bringing it down to a bee.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I'm bringing it down to a bee.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: You know why.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: You make a really good point, because the receivers are
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: are more than just a J Brown Dallas Godder in
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: this game. You're absolutely right, people are are receiving page
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: exactly exactly. There There is other talent quote talent on
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: this team. You're absolutely right. I'm bringing it down to
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: a bee. You convinced me buddy, you're absolutely I know.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I interrupted you. There, go ahead. No, no, no,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: we're good. No, no, we're good.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: We're on the same.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Page because because I mean, it's just other people exist,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: and other people have to show up and make plays.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: And the past, in the the past, blocking wasn't perfect.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: No, But but guys gotta get open.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, and during the weeks, you gotta show Kellen
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: what you need so you can get a smoke screen.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Let's get a smoke screen to Paris Campbell. He's supposed
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: to be fast. Johan Dockson and Niah Smith, you guys exist,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: You're getting game checks, and I respect you.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: You're on the winning team. You're on the right winning
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: team this Sunday.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: But you guys gotta you know, like Bryce Huff started existing, Yes,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: we need you ought to start existing.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, very true, very true.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it all right.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: The offensive line here, this is gonna be interesting because
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: in terms of the rushing attack, this offensive line I
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: think did a very good job. I'm talking like a minus.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: But man, when it came to pass pro it was
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: rough today. Look, this is a this is a pretty
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: damn good Ravens front. Four, even front seven, they're pretty
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: damn good. You gotta rope On Smith out there. You know,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: it's pretty it's pretty good football a player, and uh,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you know, Malik Harrison pretty pretty good. He really stepped up.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I know last week. I'm not even sure if he
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: was in the I just want to say because we
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: we I talked about him during our Opposition Territory preview show.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Malik Harrison was really doing much
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: of anything. However, Rokwan Smith, I mean, he led the
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: team with eleven tackles on the day, he had a
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: half a sack and a quarterback hit. You know, one
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: of the best players out there.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: He was given problems to the offensive line for sure,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and I think with the pass Pro it was probably
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: a C minus for the for this Eagles offensive line.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: So I'm actually gonna get the Eagles offensive line this week.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I think to give him a B minus. What do
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you give him same?
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, yeah, because you have to average both
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: of those out. I mean, it was it was an
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: adventure in pass Pro, but then there someone's creating those
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: lanes for Jalen and sa Quan to rip off those
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: important runs.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Think we're on the same page there.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: All right, let's move over to the defense. Defensive line
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: getting that pressure. Like I said earlier, I think Lamar
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Jackson was under a decent amount of pressure in this game,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: having to leave the pocket. Yeah, he had some scrambles
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: as well for first downs. However, I think I think
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of growth this year, and I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: think of this week thirteen game right here, Matt, we're
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: really seeing how they don't have to get sacks all
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the time in order to be effective game after game,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: drive after drive against the other team.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give him an a minus.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Actually, this week, what do you give the pass rush
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: in the I should say the defensive line here.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give him an A Okay.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I really liked what I saw from them, especially under
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: the circumstances. You got Nolan Smith playing heavy minutes. You
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: got Jlex Hunt playing heavy minutes. Milton Moro Jomo number
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: ninety seven, Yeah, playing heavy minutes. And they were constantly
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, Lamar was never really comfortable set in his feet.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: They played really smart. The defensive tackles didn't rush up
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: field and create those lanes for Lamar to create those
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: highlight plays runs, those are always really you know, tempting,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: because you want to be the guy to just pop
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson. In a game like this, they played very
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: discipline I got I'll give.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Him a solid A for this week. Okay, very good.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: How many sacks did we get today? We only got three?
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Only got three sacks? Yeah, three sacks, six quarterback hits.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: There were five tackles for a loss too. And those
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: tackles for a loss though, came from one was Nolan Smith,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: one was Zach Bond, and then you've got three from
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Jalen Carter. So, I mean, Jalen Carter really was a
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: beast today.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: How many times we got to see this poor guy
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: getting held constantly, even held by two guys, and the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: ref is right there, and I know, look, I was
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: complaining about it on last week's post game show, and
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: our and our good friend Josh who also does our
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: post games, He's like, look, you know, if we're complaining
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: about penalties and we're complaining about officials, we're already losing
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: the game here and stuff, which we didn't last week.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: But still it's like it's egregious at this point, it's
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: egregious that Jalen Carter is getting held to this extent
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: and not getting called.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: All right. I really like the no, no, I agree
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: with you. I am on your side of this one.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: I really like the violence that they played, the attitude
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: that they played with line in particular, Yeah, the defensive
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: line played with I mean the whole defense played with that,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: and that you know, a lot of that comes from,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: you know, leadership Vic Fangio, CJ. Gardner, Johnson all the
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: way down, Nikobe Dean and Zach Baughn. But they played
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: with a physicality and attitude and edge like you know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: you you know those like petty things where you know,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: you bring Derek Henry down hard to the ground and
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: you get up and you kind of like let your
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: knee hit his side as he's getting up and slack
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: the ball out of his hand. And I just, I
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: you know, if I'm if I'm a Ravens fan, tonight,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: I'm really I'm really like concerned about Derrick Henry because
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: his body language was bad tonight, and I think that
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: these guys whooped him up ye pretty good. Yeah, He's
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: supposed to be the big tough guy and he's supposed
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: to be the bully, and these guys whooped his ass today.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: To be honest, and you got you know, that's a
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: great way.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: The segue into the linebacker position was Zach bond Na,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Kobe Dean. Every unit is going to get some sort
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: of an A from me. I'm just gonna put that
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: out there. This linebacker corps a straight up a Zach
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Bonn is fantastic. Nakobe Dean going downhill is fantastic to watch.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: He is making tackles, he's making stops. He is a
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: major contributor to this defense. Now, no question about it, folks,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: No question about Nakobe Dean at this point, and we
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: shouldn't question him anymore anymore, not that people have, but
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: straight up a from.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Me, what do you give the linebackers? Buddy?
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: People hadn't this year. But I will be honest. I
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: questioned him in the past and I associated him with.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: The B word bust. Yeah. I didn't say he was
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: quite yet a bust.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: But the ver yeah it was on the verge.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: He's on the verge of bust.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: And now he's on the verge of superstar because he's
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: again playing with just a level of violence and and
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: you know, the only thing we missed today. As far
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: as a great linebacker play was a Van Samarin uh
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: his appearance as full back where he just stuffs the
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: let's uh, let's say, Kwan break one for another five yards,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: but no, get straight.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Up A all right, I'm gonna then give an aid
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: to the secondary as well. I'm gonna give an aid
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: to the secondary. That shell that Vic Fangio has this
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: secondary playing in is really honing in on the talents
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: of each of these guys in the secondary, whether it's
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Quinnon Mitchell, who once again had a great game, had
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a scare with regard to his knee, but he was okay,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: he came back in. I know Red Blankenship left with
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: a concussion. I think we're gonna be missing him, perhaps
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: hopefully not for too too long.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: CJ.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson doing some good stuff as well. And uh,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I think that this secondary played a level football today
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: against some some receivers that, you know, not the greatest
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: receivers in the world. But Zay Flowers is darn good.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, yeah, Nelson Agilore was Nelson a
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, but.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: He's good Nelson at this point. Yes, he is good Nelson.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman actually went out with a knee injury, so
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: we didn't get to see him however, And yeah, exactly exactly.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I love what this secondary has become.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: And especially with Cooper de Gene too, when he took
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and just plowed him right into the ground.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: What a great football tackle that was and just getting
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: up and just celebrating as he should have with other teammates.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: And A for me for this secondary, what do you
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: give them?
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can go with an A. However, I gotta
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: you know, the show's honorable mention, so the take the
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: honorable mentioned take. And this is unfortunately like dishonorable because
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: this guy is a really nice guy. And uh, this
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: is why my journalism friends and mentors tell me that
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: it's important not to become friends with or like the
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: people that you're reporting there, because it'll skew your reporting
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: and you'll kind of pull your punches and not say
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: things accurately. Avonte Maddox needs to stay the hell off.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: You just wish.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, he has been just rugged, just slow and he
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: and and because he's slow now at this point, he's
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: holding every time and it's obvious and egregious holds if
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: we can keep avant, if we can keep twenty nine
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: off the field. Yeah, he's just he was one of
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: the top slot corners in the league for years.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: But that was three four years ago, exactly.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, all right, well yeh wait, did you
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: give a grade? I'll go with your A. You can
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: go with the A A. But I'm checking your double
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: checking the homework next week.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, sounds good. Double check that home mark, buddy,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: double check it. All right, let's move to the offense,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: defense and special teams. Now the coaching I gotta tell you,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: man Killy Ringo on special teams with a penalty on
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the first punt of the game, hitting the Ravens return
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: man when he fair caught the ball. Then he was
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: penalized twice actually in the first quarter. I will say
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: this though, even though Killey Ringo didn't have necessarily the
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: greatest game in terms of special teams, braidon man getting
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: it done. I know the punter never gets love, but man,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: braidman this second I did eight punted in the second quarter.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: He had a great punt. It was down, yes, and
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I was just gonna mention that, yep, one at the
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: one yard line. At that punt was a thing of beauty.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: And then there was another one right at the end
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: of the third quarter, the one you're talking about it.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I think it was at like the four yard line
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: or something. It was fantastic. Jlyx Hunt, who I was
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: really gonna be watching it out for in this game,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: but even from a special team's perspective, had a huge
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: hit on a kickoff return with.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: About eight minutes left to go in the second quarter.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: He was great, and uh, you know, we've got uh
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Jake Elliott back to form here now. So I'm actually
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: gonna give special teams a B plus this week. I'm
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: gonna give him a B plus. Could be an A minus,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go B plus. What do you give him?
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: I could go I'm fine with B plus. Well, no,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: I gotta go B because because the like you said,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: the key ringo at the out of bounds. Yeah, I
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: don't ever understand how, guys. It's not like in the
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: NBA where it's like, oh, no, I didn't foul the
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: guys like you clearly ran for like twenty yards out
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: of bounds and then back into the field of play.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly, yes, all right, because it would have
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: been an A for me. If it wasn't for kiey
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Ringo in this game, it would have been an A
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: for special teams. But all right, let's move to the defense.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Vic Fangio is gonna get an A plus for me
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: this week. Seriously, Like you said, when you like, it
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: wasn't nineteen points that the Browns or the Baltimore Ravens scored.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, it says it. It should be twelve.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: It should be twelve points because that last touchdown, garbage touchdown.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Eagles really weren't even trying. When you can hold the
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens to basically twelve points throughout this entire game
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: in their house, that's saying a lot about not only
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: your your your defensive personnel, but it's saying a lot
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: about the coaching too. I'm giving Vico and a plus.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: These guys got ready to play.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, really impressive coming off a Sunday night football game
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: in LA that they clearly didn't take lightly, that was
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: clearly a close game. Yep, got ready to play again
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: on Sunday next Sunday afternoon.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with it.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I go with a plus because last I checked, I
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: thought that the Ravens had two MVP finalists, but they
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: don't have it won anymore.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: They don't.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: They don't what happened Vic Fangio and the defense happened? Yes,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Oh well, we're running out of time here. Let's move
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: over to the offense here. I'm gonna give Nick Sirianni
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: and Kellen Moore a B plus this week, and that
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: might be kind Maybe I'll.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Go around B or so where I'm going.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say B probably, you know now
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: thinking about it, simply because of what we talked about
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: earlier before the break. It was just it was a
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: terrible first quarter, but they always bounce back. We see
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: it time and time again after week. Just some of
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the play calling I thought throughout the game was suspect
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get a B.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: What do you give them? That's where I'm that's what
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I'm giving them.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know if if if they called the right plays,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: and that the bad offensive line play at times, at times,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: bad offensive line play through away bad plays, I don't know.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: But the product I saw in the field and the
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: matchups being drawn up that I could see the very
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: big plus that was the fact that they were just again,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: just decided at a certain point we're hammering these guys and
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: we're not gonna stop.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, well again, folks, what a great game, What a
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: great game. The Eagles are ten and two on the season,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: now the perennial favorites to go to the NFC Championship Game,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: perhaps to face the Detroit Lions. We'll have to see
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: how the rest of these five weeks go here, but
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: again the Eagles beating the Baltimore Ravens by a score
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: of twenty four to nine nineteen down in Baltimore. They're
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be coming back to Philly next week to play
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. Gonna be an interesting game for us
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: to watch there as well. I want to thank Matt
• 38:12
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• 38:15
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• 38:19
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• 38:23
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• 38:25
  Speaker 1: great talking to you. Thank you so much for taking
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: the time to jump in here fill in for the guys.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: It was great to have you on. Man.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Absolutely looking forward to hosting the lines in Philadelphia because.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: They're gonna drop one. The Phillies Eagles are gonna fit
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: as strong. I love it hosting them in Philly. I
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: love it.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I love it, I love it. Let's hope that happens
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: for sure. All right, folks, you all take care. We'll
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: catch you next time.